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Tu-22M3 struck a new series of attacks on ISIL militants

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The press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported that the bombers of the Far aviation Russian Aerospace Forces Tu-22M3 launched a new series of attacks on ISIS militants in Syria. As noted, the bombing of the Ishilov’s positions in the area of ​​the city of Palmyra, which the terrorists are trying to attack, was again conducted. RIA News cites the statement of the representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation:

This morning, six Tu-22М3 long-range bombers, which took off from home airfields in the Russian Federation, delivered a second concentrated attack on the newly discovered ISIL facilities in areas east of Palmyra, as well as in the cities of Es-Suhne, Arak and the T-3 oil pumping station in Homs province . As a result of the strike, the command post, the ISIL militants field camp, two points for oil refining, and a large number of personnel and military equipment of the enemy were destroyed.


Against this background, militant accounts on social networks are full of reports that the igilovtsy in the skies of Syria shot down a military plane of the CAS Air Force.



Reports say the plane was shot down south of the city of Deir ez-Zor. According to these reports, the Syrian military pilot Mahir Kashuur flew the plane.

Tu-22M3 struck a new series of attacks on ISIL militants


The reports of the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation say that all the aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces that participated in the operation to strike at the militants returned to their home airfields.
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  1. salad
    salad 14 July 2016 15: 59
    +8
    So in a photo like the MIG-21 pilot who was shot down two months ago if I’m not mistaken. And then a lot of videos were uploaded.

    And the carcasses are great)
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 14 July 2016 16: 10
      +11
      In my opinion, a purely amateurish opinion, a thermobaric bomb would be perfect for hitting an oil refinery. Maybe not "dad", but not "five hundred"
      1. _Vladislav_
        _Vladislav_ 14 July 2016 16: 37
        +1
        Quote: Wiruz
        In my opinion, a purely amateurish opinion, a thermobaric bomb would be perfect for hitting an oil refinery. Maybe not "dad", but not "five hundred"

        I'm even better nuclear, to be specific)
        1. cniza
          cniza 14 July 2016 16: 50
          +11
          The reports of the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation say that all the aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces that participated in the operation to strike at the militants returned to their home airfields.


          God grant that it would always be so.
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        3. Wiruz
          Wiruz 14 July 2016 16: 55
          +3
          I'm even better nuclear, to be specific)

          Do not say nonsense sad
          1. Homo
            Homo 14 July 2016 17: 48
            +1
            Quote: Wiruz
            Do not say nonsense

            Your words are stupid, and that was sarcasm. Need to be able to read between the lines! wink
            1. Wiruz
              Wiruz 14 July 2016 17: 56
              +2
              Well, in what place were they stupid? To bombard the bearded bombs with the ODAB-500 is also stupid, in your opinion?
              1. WKS
                WKS 14 July 2016 21: 51
                +1
                Quote: Wiruz
                Well, in what place were they stupid? To bombard the bearded bombs with the ODAB-500 is also stupid, in your opinion?

                How to bomb, when and who is not here to determine and decide. Why in vain spank the keys. The main thing is to destroy more bandits as a result of these bombings.
            2. Rom14
              Rom14 14 July 2016 19: 07
              +4
              And what is there between the legs that can be read ???
        4. Homo
          Homo 14 July 2016 17: 48
          +3
          Quote: _Vladislav_
          I'm even better nuclear, to be specific)

          I understand it was sarcasm! But the people did not understand. Sorry! request
          1. _Vladislav_
            _Vladislav_ 14 July 2016 22: 11
            0
            Quote: Homo
            I understand it was sarcasm! But the people did not understand. Sorry!

            Well of course sarcasm. If you are a sane, healthy person, you will understand that the use of nuclear weapons is unacceptable.
            Just like the use of vacuum weapons is unacceptably economic.

            Do you know how much one vacuum bomb costs? Grab a 50-point strike in the usual form, consisting of 30 strategic missile carriers and escort groups.

            Yes. Alas, not the whole people, I understood sarcasm winked
        5. Pereira
          Pereira 14 July 2016 20: 17
          0
          In my amateurish opinion, not all bombs went to the right place. It is especially visible on a strong point. And one bomb from the 12-tee just hit the oil producing station.
          But if for each target an 2 plane was bombed, the probability of destroying the target would be under 100%.
          In my opinion, again an amateurish opinion, it is impossible to use the same number of aircraft when using free-falling bombs as when using high-precision weapons.
      2. Wiruz
        Wiruz 14 July 2016 16: 58
        +6
        As I understand it, those who are minus simply have no idea what thermobaric ammunition is laughing
        1. Khariton
          Khariton 14 July 2016 17: 06
          +1
          Quote: Wiruz
          As I understand it, those who are minus simply have no idea what thermobaric ammunition is laughing

          For devils of this level, ordinary bombs are enough .... hi (minus not mine)! Powerful retribution and useful training for our strategists! (stagnated, but ...) And the NATO warning that it’s better not to anger Russia ..
          1. FID
            FID 14 July 2016 17: 47
            +9
            Quote: Chariton
            Powerful retribution and useful training for our strategists! (stagnated, but ...

            Tu-22M3 was never a strategist ....
            1. Khariton
              Khariton 14 July 2016 18: 04
              +3
              Quote: SSI
              Quote: Chariton
              Powerful retribution and useful training for our strategists! (stagnated, but ...

              Tu-22M3 was never a strategist ....

              Yes, I understand already ... I'm not an expert. Just "strategist" is a beautiful name for long-range aviation. Thank you for correcting us "profane" ..
              1. FID
                FID 14 July 2016 18: 14
                +10
                Quote: Chariton
                Yes, I understand already ... I'm not an expert. Simply "strategist" is a beautiful name for long-range aviation. Thank you for correcting us "laymen".

                Yes, I’ve just taken it off for 15 years, it’s just cutting my ears, I apologize ....
                1. Khariton
                  Khariton 14 July 2016 18: 17
                  +4
                  Quote: SSI
                  Quote: Chariton
                  Yes, I understand already ... I'm not an expert. Simply "strategist" is a beautiful name for long-range aviation. Thank you for correcting us "laymen".

                  Yes, I’ve just taken it off for 15 years, it’s just cutting my ears, I apologize ....

                  I know ... I wouldn’t be offended even at the mat! hi
          2. DMB_95
            DMB_95 14 July 2016 20: 10
            +2
            It is correct that the very practice of inflicting "blows of Retribution" appeared. The enemy must know that we will avenge our own. And live in anticipation of this revenge at any moment.
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      3. Homo
        Homo 14 July 2016 17: 45
        -2
        Quote: Wiruz
        about my, purely amateurish opinion, a thermobaric bomb would be perfect for hitting an oil refinery. Maybe not "dad", but not "five hundred"

        There is one HUGE but, the Syrians are fighting on their land, for their homeland, and we help them liberate it! So for what the hell to turn your land into ashes! fool
        1. Wiruz
          Wiruz 14 July 2016 17: 54
          +4
          Volumetric detonating ammunition has the same effect on the soil as a conventional one, in fact. There will be no contamination of the soil, neither radioactive nor chemical. Such an explosion will be absolutely safe for the environment. fool fool
          1. Homo
            Homo 14 July 2016 18: 28
            +1
            Quote: Wiruz
            There will be no contamination of the soil, neither radioactive nor chemical. Such an explosion will be absolutely safe for the environment.

            And I did not talk about infection. You suggested bombing industrial facilities (an oil refining station) with such charges, after the explosion and fire, ash will remain from them. And this belongs to the state and people of Syria. It will be easier for them to recover than rebuild from scratch. Or are you on the principle, not your own - do not mind?
            1. Wiruz
              Wiruz 14 July 2016 18: 34
              +5
              That is, in your opinion, after our VKS inflicts blows on oil refineries by USUAL HEATER BOMBES, they do not explode, do not burn, and do not turn to ash from a fire? laughing
      4. SSR
        SSR 14 July 2016 20: 06
        +3
        Quote: Wiruz
        In my opinion, a purely amateurish opinion, a thermobaric bomb would be perfect for hitting an oil refinery. Maybe not "dad", but not "five hundred"

        Thermobaric is better where the baboons are well buried and strengthened, and in oil refining it is better to cover with cassettes. Thermobaric there is no need for oil equipment from the cracks to smoke))) it is enough to chop and burn.
        PS.
        After the loss of the helicopter and information that the Ministry of Defense was preparing retaliation, comrade Scoun suggested / suggested that the "dad" hit the bombs, and literally two days later, Roman Katkov had an article with the same assumption, and now a similar thought is heard more and more on the forum. Imha will see soon zhahnut on the cluster in a well-fortified place.
        Until recently, it was difficult to believe about the export of sunflowers, and now they are in Iraq and our military is using it in Syria, to see the designer they have gone even further.
      5. aksakal
        aksakal 14 July 2016 22: 17
        +1
        Quote: Wiruz
        In my opinion, a purely amateurish opinion, a thermobaric bomb would be perfect for hitting an oil refinery. Maybe not "dad", but not "five hundred"

        - the five-hundred-year-old bombs are considerable, but the plant is so large that a handful of these five-hundred-year-olds didn’t really damage it ... It’s not clear why they won’t break in all the bombs? Testing at the test site is one thing, but in reality it’s another. And the effect is awesome. After all, these blows are blows of intimidation. Well, Russians can’t lose Palmyra after her triumphal liberation and, most importantly, Gergiev’s concert there, they CAN’t! And even if the militants of the whole world will attack Palmyra, they will not be able to take it, because Russia is not a state that can lose face because of this. Here the attacks of the Daesh have reached a certain level, such that the Russians were forced to send their helicopters to the rescue, one of the helicopters was shot down by barmales. As a result, such a warning again, twice already. And note, DAISH was quiet there, the military commander Saponkov writes, they are sitting quietly, like mice laughing What a life-giving caliber does! laughing I think, if they rock the boat again, we can use the "dad of all bombs". I am sure Palmyra will be quiet for a long time. Well, it's time to really show the teeth in their entire length, why stick out the lips slightly? They see part of the teeth and think, such short fangs, why be afraid? Throw a dozen pieces so that only charred garbage would remain on a hectare of hectares - it's okay, everyone will understand the way they need to understand. Tired of this baida and the game of humanity, it's time to put everything in its place.
      6. Absurdidat
        Absurdidat 15 July 2016 10: 47
        0
        Thermobaric? For this trash? Or maybe Fleet Admiral Kuznetsov drop it on her? In general, it is not clear what the hell to drag carcasses for 12 bombs on trenches and oil rigs, spend a resource, and the engine and the structure as a whole. Su25 walked a couple of times, there would be more sense. Window dressing, they covered the area somewhat, stunned a couple of donkeys.
  2. Magic archer
    Magic archer 14 July 2016 15: 59
    +12
    The first news pleased. The carcasses with competent modernization will still serve the state. But the second saddened. If it is true then let the earth rest in peace. Apparently they fly at low altitudes, since ISIS air defense managed to get it. Syrians would have better planes but drones ....
    1. vkl.47
      vkl.47 14 July 2016 16: 05
      +3
      their planes simply have ancient avionics. they must go down low on the target. below 4500m and that’s all ... they will get you.
      1. ASK505
        ASK505 14 July 2016 17: 55
        +1
        It's good that not "theirs airplanes".
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 14 July 2016 16: 07
      -1
      The Syrian Air Force needs strike drones that can be in the air for several days.
      1. mitrich
        mitrich 14 July 2016 16: 19
        +4
        What Syrian Air Force strike UAV ??? Our videoconferencing is necessary! Shameful, the Chinese-Indians-Iranians !!, already, which there are none, but we did not roll the horse! And when it falls, it’s badly clear. And they were needed the day before yesterday.
        And there could be no loss to our helicopter pilots.
        1. Homo
          Homo 14 July 2016 17: 53
          -3
          Quote: mitrich
          Shameful, the Chinese-Indians-Iranians !!, already, which there are none, but we did not roll the horse! And when it falls, it’s badly clear.

          Do they have submarines, Yars, T-50, Armata, etc.? An UAV is much easier to do, just everything has its time.
          1. Wiruz
            Wiruz 14 July 2016 17: 58
            0
            Do they have submarines, Yars, T-50, Armata, etc.? An UAV is much easier to do, just everything has its time.

            Well yes. "What should we build a house for?" - as the saying goes. Strike UAVs are in short supply for our VKS. You look, maybe our helicopters would not fall
      2. ferdiperdozzz
        ferdiperdozzz 14 July 2016 17: 22
        0
        Better "Death Star", why waste time on trifles?
        1. Svoy_tovarish
          Svoy_tovarish 14 July 2016 17: 31
          -1
          As for the losses among helicopter pilots. I agree. How did it happen that the turntable managed by the entire regiment commander, a veteran, a man who could still train more than a dozen young pilots, was not equipped with any protection. But what about Leverage or President? We must take care of soldiers, we must take care of experienced veterans as it does not sound cynical even more. And our brave pilots are on the verge of great risk fighting there. And here of course we need drones. Percussion in the first place, to buy the most advanced sample, to parse and copy the times does not work for themselves. What is the same thing to do with it.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 14 July 2016 19: 02
            -4
            "But what about Lever or PresidentS" Forget about these complexes - in a real battle there will be no sense from all these electronic warfare systems.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 15 July 2016 09: 40
              0
              As the war in Syria, Su 24, Mi 8, Mi 35, has already shown us, the electronic warfare systems helped them a lot.
          2. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 14 July 2016 20: 12
            +3
            Quote: Svoy_tovarish
            As for the losses among helicopter pilots. I agree. How did it happen that the turntable managed by the entire regiment commander, a veteran, a man who could still train more than a dozen young pilots, was not equipped with any protection. But what about Leverage or President? We must take care of soldiers, we must take care of experienced veterans as it does not sound cynical even more. And our brave pilots are on the verge of great risk fighting there.

            This part of your comment, colleague, is absolutely correct. And the helicopter was controlled by Colonel Khabibulin, solely because the shortage of helicopter pilots, at least in the Southern Military District, was approaching a critical minimum. Although of course the site is unlikely to be aware of this. And they don’t understand at all, there was information about the transfer, a certain number of new helicopters to the Korenovsky regiment, and a bunch of enthusiastic comments, and that there was no one to write on these boards on the boards.
            I was at the funeral, and what I saw later in the press simply provoked a wild hatred of the authorities.
    3. pvv113
      pvv113 14 July 2016 17: 42
      +1
      Wait, take your time - no one said that the pilot died. The conversation was only about a downed plane. Maybe managed to eject
      1. AndreyS
        AndreyS 15 July 2016 08: 16
        0
        Quote: pvv113
        Wait, take your time - no one said that the pilot died.

        Unfortunately, the pilot died. There is already an article in Russian spring.
        http://rusvesna.su/news/1468494237
  3. sever.56
    sever.56 14 July 2016 16: 01
    +10
    They would not have given respite to the devils, when the ceasefire was announced, now there would have been a different picture in Syria. And then we are talking about some kind of "cooperation" and "coordination of actions" with the Americans!
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 14 July 2016 17: 09
      +2
      Quote: sever.56
      They would not have given respite to the devils, when the ceasefire was announced, now there would have been a different picture in Syria. And then we are talking about some kind of "cooperation" and "coordination of actions" with the Americans!

      Yes, a step forward two. And America wins.
  4. Muvka
    Muvka 14 July 2016 16: 07
    +3
    In a good way, they’re not doing it right. Our helicopter was shot down near Palmyra, which means we need to iron their allies somewhere nearby. And so that they know that this is retribution for the pilots. And an alliance can come kayuk. Begin bickering with each other.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 14 July 2016 16: 14
      +9
      Quote: Muvka
      In a good way, they’re not doing it right.

      They don't do it right at all. They drive "long-distance men" in order to bomb something there ... while informing Washington about their intentions and coordinates of the bombing, which is financing ISIS.
      At the same time, those who shot down our MIG-25 and SU-24 are alive and well.
      Is it time to stop this dubious collaboration with mattresses in Syria?
      1. Ze Kot
        Ze Kot 14 July 2016 18: 15
        0
        Quote: NEXUS
        They don't do it right at all. They drive "long-range men" in order to bomb something there


        Well, there are two options:

        1. purely politics. Show what we have.
        2. the existing aviation forces located in Syria could not perform such a task
      2. parafoiler
        parafoiler 14 July 2016 18: 45
        +1
        Please specify when the bearded men in Syria managed to bring down the MiG-25 ?! Obviously, you confused the Mi-25 with the MiG-25. One from the other is very different. Helicopter and plane, respectively ... Study the materiel before writing.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 14 July 2016 19: 04
          +1
          Quote: parafoiler
          Obviously, you confused the Mi-25 with the MiG-25.

          Quote: parafoiler
          Learn the materiel before writing.

          A man, what I wrote quickly and mistakenly wrote instead of MI-25 MIG-25, smart people understood and do not pay attention to this mistake, and you are engaged in literary studies, trying to show what kind of smart phrase you are -
          Learn the materiel before writing
          ...
          Are you sure that I know her no worse than yours, and maybe many times better?
    2. Koshak
      Koshak 14 July 2016 16: 19
      +3
      Quote: Muvka
      In a good way, they’re not doing it right. Our helicopter was shot down near Palmyra, which means we need to iron their allies somewhere nearby. And so that they know that this is retribution for the pilots. And an alliance can come kayuk. Begin bickering with each other.

      So it is written "... struck a second concentrated attack on newly identified ISIS targets in areas east of Palmyra."
    3. tol100v
      tol100v 14 July 2016 16: 40
      +3
      Quote: Muvka
      And so that they know that this is retribution for the pilots.

      You don't have to lose your pilots for this! You just need to take and iron everyone who is not involved in the truce! And "colleagues" and "partners" will immediately stick their tongues in. Let the media talk a little about supposedly "moderate opposition". So you need to comb it MODERATE, without looking back at all their frills in the pan!
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 14 July 2016 18: 20
        -1
        tol100v
        Here it also needs to be moderately combed, without looking back at all their tricks in a frying pan!

        Everything is correct. "Moderate" opposition by ironing with Carbs, and immoderate, in addition to Carbs, could also be calibrated. Not a single gram would be superfluous. hi
  5. Kibl
    Kibl 14 July 2016 16: 08
    +6
    Ironing bearded, shaggy, I’m not thinking that bombs and missiles have been stored in warehouses since Soviet times. For one, there will be room for new types of ammunition and people at the factories for the production of these bombs and missiles will not be left without work!
  6. Dmitry X
    Dmitry X 14 July 2016 16: 11
    +1
    The people, and with what bombing? 250 again?
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    2. Koshak
      Koshak 14 July 2016 16: 21
      +3
      Quote: Dmitry X
      The people, and with what bombing? 250 again?

      Dispose of old stocks of air bombs. All that is available. What difference does it make on the heads of the barmaley.
      1. Dmitry X
        Dmitry X 14 July 2016 16: 38
        0
        I agree, no difference, just the Tu-22m3 is a serious and powerful machine. And 12 fab-250 for her is not very serious ... some sort of fab-1500 or 3000. with one bomb the whole camp or refinery.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 14 July 2016 23: 50
          +1
          Yes, one such FAB 9000 per terrorist facility would be enough in full
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 14 July 2016 16: 23
      +10
      Quote: Dmitry X
      Arod, but what is bombing with? 250 again?

      Video already exists
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 14 July 2016 16: 58
        +3
        Alexander Romanov (6) RU Today, 16: 23
        All is well lovely marquis. But the last episode "Oil Refinery" ... There is a lot of dust, but oil burns differently. Me so "repent". Although, in general, it is beautiful and competent. Bombing from behind the clouds, yes, this is not the Great Patriotic War.
        1. Sashka
          Sashka 14 July 2016 17: 38
          +3
          Here, too, the fireworks are not particularly pleased ... It's somehow rather weak. Do not judge strictly, I am not an expert on such things. Somehow they showed the NATO bombing, so there it puffed so- Mama Do not Cry. There, not only a strong point in chips, but also everything burned out around. And from our half buildings stand still, the last goal was to blaze, and there was only dust ... Maybe I'm wrong, explain, please, knowledgeable people. According to the work of the pilots, there are no complaints, they worked out for the clouds. It seems to me that they need to suspend something more serious, even if a couple instead of 6, but such that there is no more ash!
          Good day!
        2. PN
          PN 14 July 2016 17: 49
          0
          Yes, and the stronghold of the militants, there the bombs seem to be on the other side of the redoubt too ...
        3. In search
          In search 14 July 2016 19: 29
          +1
          From a gun on sparrows. At each facility, more than half past.
      2. SNIF
        SNIF 14 July 2016 20: 44
        0
        Interestingly, do the babakhs have such things?) Although if those on supersonic such "fish soup" should be useless
  7. Rif
    Rif 14 July 2016 16: 21
    +7
    Studying in real combat conditions will give experience that you won’t drink.
  8. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 14 July 2016 16: 26
    +1
    Quote: salat
    So in the photo, like the MIG-21 pilot who was shot down two months ago if I am not mistaken.

    Specifically googled the information. I didn’t even find anything close. Most likely it is - they shot down, but judging by the fact that the name is called - he died. If so, then bless him with memory ...!
  9. 100-2
    100-2 14 July 2016 16: 27
    0
    but not easier to refuel .. half of the bomb squadron of 9 ??? 500-kt il 12 ?? but still somehow not enough repeat
    1. Fregate
      Fregate 14 July 2016 16: 45
      +1
      Quote: 100-2
      but not easier to refuel .. half of the bomb squadron of 9 ??? 500-kt il 12 ?? but still somehow feel a little

      The Tu-22m (3) does not have a rod for refueling in the air. Apparently in this way and take only 12 fab-250. 3 tons of load with a maximum possible 24 t.
  10. OlegLex
    OlegLex 14 July 2016 16: 32
    0
    Such a service for our pilots now, remind the creatures that death she will find you everywhere
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 14 July 2016 16: 44
      +10
      Quote: OlegLex
      Such a service for our pilots now, remind the creatures that death she will find you everywhere

      There would be much more benefit and efficiency in the work of our falcons if the Pentagon had not warned about their intentions. It would be like calling the ISIS themselves and warning about the bombing.
      And then what is the use of such shares? What is there to enjoy? While our guys took off from the airfields, not a single significant ISIL was present at these objects. And those who were covered ... is the meat that ISIS will replenish quickly and without problems.
      It is necessary to end with Don Quixote and the war with windmills, and it is time to prioritize and stop playing allies and partners.
      For sure, Washington is not helping us end this war, but we need to end it as soon as possible.
  11. Gamer
    Gamer 14 July 2016 16: 34
    +4
    tents were bombed by missile carriers already from Russia ????????????? belay
    1. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR 14 July 2016 16: 47
      +1
      Quote: Gamer
      tents were bombed by missile carriers already from Russia ????????????? belay


      The animals that live in these tents.
    2. Engineer
      Engineer 14 July 2016 16: 48
      +5
      Good practice for strategic pilots with real bombing. They don’t often have this, because the benefits are obvious
      1. Tibidokh
        Tibidokh 14 July 2016 16: 56
        +6
        Quote: Engineer
        Good practice for strategic pilots

        Dalnikov, not a strategist. hi
    3. Scoun
      Scoun 14 July 2016 16: 53
      +1
      Quote: Gamer
      tents were bombed by missile carriers already from Russia ????????????? belay

      and our other military who are there that did not come from Russia? The Navy is also from Russia. )))
      What is there to be surprised at? there were not "dandelions" in the tents.
    4. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 14 July 2016 17: 00
      0
      Quote: Gamer
      tents were bombed by missile carriers already from Russia ????????????? belay

      What to do dear, they began to forget who is the boss in the house. Reminded. And forget the pfeniki. Or will you not be ours? Look ...
  12. Signaller
    Signaller 14 July 2016 16: 43
    +7
    So for interest-TC 22 m3
    Range of flight: 6000 km
    Combat radius with a load of 12 kg:
    at supersonic speed: 1500-1850 km
    at subsonic speed and extremely low altitude: 1500-1650 km
    on subsonic mixed profile: 2410 km
    So 12 tons kg on a radius of 1850 km. Well, let's estimate 1500. and drop 15 bombs fab 250-the sum of 3 kg .... And this is an advanced economy. ???? Well, you guys don’t say, like, our most, most. It is visible to the naked eye that there really is. 750 pieces of fab 40 should fly out, not me at this range. To completely fall asleep everyone there. The Chinese, who studied the issue, also noted this fact. Not I am the first, not I am the last. Pass-II, I don't mind. But the fact is the fact-Everything on the video is. Prove the converse.
    1. BLOND
      BLOND 14 July 2016 16: 54
      +3
      Quote: Signaller
      So for interest-TC 22 m3
      Range of flight: 6000 km
      Combat radius with a load of 12 kg:
      at supersonic speed: 1500-1850 km
      at subsonic speed and extremely low altitude: 1500-1650 km
      on subsonic mixed profile: 2410 km
      So 12 tons kg on a radius of 1850 km. Well, let's estimate 1500. and drop 15 bombs fab 250-the sum of 3 kg .... And this is an advanced economy. ???? Well, you guys don’t say, like, our most, most. It is visible to the naked eye that there really is. 750 pieces of fab 40 should fly out, not me at this range. To completely fall asleep everyone there. The Chinese, who studied the issue, also noted this fact. Not I am the first, not I am the last. Pass-II, I don't mind. But the fact is the fact-Everything on the video is. Prove the converse.


      You're just a signalman))
      Who told you that the discharge goes all at once on board?
    2. BLOND
      BLOND 14 July 2016 16: 54
      0
      Quote: Signaller
      So for interest-TC 22 m3
      Range of flight: 6000 km
      Combat radius with a load of 12 kg:
      at supersonic speed: 1500-1850 km
      at subsonic speed and extremely low altitude: 1500-1650 km
      on subsonic mixed profile: 2410 km
      So 12 tons kg on a radius of 1850 km. Well, let's estimate 1500. and drop 15 bombs fab 250-the sum of 3 kg .... And this is an advanced economy. ???? Well, you guys don’t say, like, our most, most. It is visible to the naked eye that there really is. 750 pieces of fab 40 should fly out, not me at this range. To completely fall asleep everyone there. The Chinese, who studied the issue, also noted this fact. Not I am the first, not I am the last. Pass-II, I don't mind. But the fact is the fact-Everything on the video is. Prove the converse.


      You're just a signalman))
      Who told you that the discharge goes all at once on board?
      1. Signaller
        Signaller 14 July 2016 19: 25
        0
        TV to help you. I didn’t see it, personally, but I saw it on TV. In essence, this is how it goes.
  13. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 14 July 2016 16: 50
    0
    To fly far, that’s not enough ..
    1. Signaller
      Signaller 14 July 2016 16: 57
      -1
      2 km. From the Crimea, the aerodrome jumps and far. ??? Well, you give the country coal.
      1. kenig1
        kenig1 14 July 2016 17: 17
        +4
        Heard the new words "jump airfield" and thoughtlessly used them. How do you imagine the further route of the planes? Now they fly from the airfield in Mozdok via Iran.
        1. Signaller
          Signaller 14 July 2016 19: 30
          0
          You heard that. I knew this from childhood. Yes, and then we build a route through Iran from Mozdok. Well, what is 6-000 km ??? Are you even strong in geography ???
    2. Signaller
      Signaller 14 July 2016 19: 28
      -2
      Well, what are you ??? There, it’s just 1.5 t.km from the Crimea. + - The radius of combat use is 2000 km. AT FULL LOAD, i.e. 20 tone Divide by 250 - get 40 bombs in the zashashnik. Well make a fool of us, oh make a fool of us.
  14. Signaller
    Signaller 14 July 2016 16: 52
    .
    Yes, 6 crews flew, well, it's clear. The fact that they threw off one at a nominal load, and one was enough. Money can be counted. Risks too. The fact that they threw off two planes and could get by, but ??? Our pilots must be ready. We must drive everyone out for combat use. But money is SIRy-Money. No one sees them. Type it is necessary, then it is necessary. And then "the elderly and pensioners have no money." Well, you can't. This Syria is far from me. It is necessary to spend money, but not so cool. The economy must be economical. When you can solve the problem with 2 planes - why send 6?
    1. NikolaiN
      NikolaiN 14 July 2016 18: 27
      +8
      Quote: Signaller
      It is necessary to spend hard-earned money, but not so cool. The economy must be economical

      These 6 aircraft, according to the combat training plan, would still be lifted into the air and chased over Russia, practicing long-distance flights, the pilots must train. They would also be sent to the bombing range, pilots have to train. And here they worked all the same, and even "barmaley" poured pepper, for the same money.
      1. Signaller
        Signaller 14 July 2016 19: 33
        -4
        The right words and the words spoken in time. Well, there are grandmothers in the Moscow region for combat training. Good. Saved. Great. But why, due to this saving, the old people don’t have to pay pensions. ??? I don’t need to, but many people live on the last cracker.
        1. NikolaiN
          NikolaiN 15 July 2016 09: 23
          0
          They didn’t save anything, they spent the money allotted for study and for sortie. Combine the necessary with the useful.
    2. V.ic
      V.ic 14 July 2016 18: 33
      +2
      Quote: Signaller
      When can I solve the problem with 2 airplanes, why send 6?

      There is such a modest booklet "Combat training course". It is in it that the exercises that are necessary for the pilot to confirm the class are indicated. It is preferable to "hold on to the handle" / the steering wheel in our case / twelve pilots, not four. Consequently, SIX crews will have the appropriate clearance, and not two. In addition, this is not a training ground, but a real combat use.
      1. Signaller
        Signaller 14 July 2016 19: 37
        -3
        To confirm the class ... And the type of exercise. Well, just a paragraph .... You cannot live like that in our conditions when D.A. Medvedev says there is no money. And such a message .... Type of exercise. And electronics for what ???
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 15 July 2016 08: 12
          +1
          Quote: Signaller
          Type Run Exercise. And electronics for what ???

          And you, dear Tu-22M3 already recorded in drones? Well, then you’ll go to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation with a proposal to completely reduce the flight crew, with the application of an appropriate feasibility study.
    3. win
      win 15 July 2016 10: 18
      +2
      "old people and pensioners have no money."

      And why the military claim? Like, give the extra money to them.
      Why not pay attention to the "untouchable" oligarchs and billionaires. Here's to take from them. To increase the tax for them, as in many Western countries. Enough for retirees, doctors and teachers.
      But the military needs to increase the budget. At the expense of thieves and big businessmen who drive billions abroad, but for some reason their number is not decreasing.
  15. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 14 July 2016 16: 56
    +5
    As our president said at the last meeting: stop fooling people. This can be attributed to many areas, including the war in Syria. The result is important, not endless strikes against the militants, as the United States has been doing for many years. the locomotive began to slow down. Criticism may not be appropriate here, but each "event" has its own timing.
  16. win
    win 14 July 2016 17: 00
    +7
    if they had not warned the Pentagon of their intentions


    And the apologetic tone of the messages that, they say, was checked from several sources, is also puzzling. It turns out there are no "moderate terrorists" ...
    Wet everyone without apology. Sort is not visible from above ...
  17. sanyabasik
    sanyabasik 14 July 2016 17: 01
    +3
    Quote: Gamer
    tents were bombed by missile carriers already from Russia ????????????? belay

    Yes, they drove. To be afraid even to put up a tent. This is a hint of tents on the Maidan ..
  18. Dr dron
    Dr dron 14 July 2016 17: 12
    +1
    To the navigators a set-off! And the pilots ... I envy white envy!
  19. iskander491
    iskander491 14 July 2016 17: 13
    +4
    Quote: Signaller
    Yes, 6 crews flew, well, it's clear. The fact that they threw off one at a nominal load, and one was enough. Money can be counted. Risks too. The fact that they threw off two planes and could get by, but ??? Our pilots must be ready. We must drive everyone out for combat use. But money is SIRy-Money. No one sees them. Type it is necessary, then it is necessary. And then "the elderly and pensioners have no money." Well, you can't. This Syria is far from me. It is necessary to spend money, but not so cool. The economy must be economical. When you can solve the problem with 2 planes - why send 6?

    An economy cannot be economical; it is the same as a cook directing the state. Today I saw a video on the news that there was a reset not only of bombs but also missile launch. It’s just that there are goals that are not protected for carpet suits, but there are special goals and the arsenal for them is different. And it’s easier to fly with the infrastructure of the territory. And then what was the dump height, but the Syrians didn’t have a chance to take off the carcasses with climb, the cars are not cheap. And people are not strangers.
  20. xant
    xant 14 July 2016 17: 18
    0
    For a regiment of Khabibullin and l-dolgin let them rest in peace.
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    2. win
      win 14 July 2016 17: 32
      +2
      For a regiment of Khabibullin and l-dolgin let them rest in peace.
  21. win
    win 14 July 2016 17: 31
    +4
    And then "the elderly and pensioners have no money."


    The military budget was imposed simultaneously with the pension.
    And if thieves-swindlers "grabbed" the money of pensioners and old people, then this is a question for other structures.
    And the military "works" within their budget. And looking at the result - they work well ...
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    1. Des10
      Des10 14 July 2016 18: 11
      0
      Quote: rudolff
      And why do we need such long-distance flights? Wouldn’t it be easier to second a couple of carcasses to Khmeimin for a week or two? Incomplete refueling, full ammunition ...

      and show off laughing , but practice --- is needed.
      1. gozmosZh
        gozmosZh 14 July 2016 21: 30
        0
        About Ponte - Liccan. but about raids - yes! Our guys are learning to fly over the distant lands! Let them fly!
        ъ
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    3. weksha50
      weksha50 14 July 2016 18: 13
      0
      Quote: rudolff
      Why do we need such long-distance flights? Isn’t it easier second a couple of carcasses to Khmeimin for a week or two? Incomplete refueling, full ammunition ...



      Well, yes, yes ... Deliver bombs, fuel to Khmeimim ... etc., etc.
      So - not easier, and not more economical ...
      And then - the Dalniks train, they get skills in combat use, which may soon come in handy far from Syria ...

      Weigh all the pros and cons ...
    4. NikolaiN
      NikolaiN 14 July 2016 18: 30
      0
      Quote: rudolff
      Why do we need such long-distance flights?

      Pilots must train ...
      1. Signaller
        Signaller 14 July 2016 19: 42
        -4
        Here are the right words, must. And at the same time, each sortie is a sortie on a combat mission. so we take the pilot's book and write - "departure on a combat mission" All the guys are a "combatant". That was recently accepted. ... Now everyone will rush there. And this is a great deal. One vacation at any time or a skip-the-line apartment costs a lot.
        1. NikolaiN
          NikolaiN 15 July 2016 09: 16
          0
          Quote: Signaller
          Now everyone will rush there. And these are considerable prierents. One vacation at any time - or an apartment without a queue costs a lot.

          And do you think the pilots had to pay extra to fly there? And not everyone is torn, some, on the contrary, are leaving their posts so that they will not be sent to Syria, they do not want to risk their lives for apartments and vacations.
        2. sanyabasik
          sanyabasik 15 July 2016 13: 22
          0
          So what's the question? Get off the couch and go to Syria as a contractor, get a "participant". When the generals traveled to the Caucasus for three days for crusts, this is one thing, but a combat mission is quite a bit different ..
        3. V.ic
          V.ic 15 July 2016 19: 57
          0
          Quote: Signaller
          And at the same time, each sortie is a sortie on a combat mission. so we take the pilot's book and write - "flight on a combat mission" All the guys are a "combatant"

          The days of his malice prevail... What? Is the toad smothering? Who studied what! Like oxygen, m. brains will be aired.
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  24. kot423
    kot423 14 July 2016 17: 57
    +1
    Quote: ferdiperdozzz
    Better "Death Star", why waste time on trifles?

    Then it’s better than Darth Vader (from 404 country). He resembles a woman - they laugh themselves and they will undermine everything and die ...
  25. dvs73
    dvs73 14 July 2016 18: 31
    -2
    eh some thiao to throw there hi that way at an altitude of a couple of kilometers to rush :)
  26. donavi49
    donavi49 14 July 2016 18: 58
    0
    Today is black's day, anti-aircraft gunner. MiG-23 - in the article (exactly 23 on the tail in the video). They also shot down the turntable, the crew died in Guta. Recently, losses have jumped sharply. For 10 days, 3 turntables and 2 aircraft were confirmed.
    1. Sirius-2
      Sirius-2 14 July 2016 19: 45
      +1
      This is to be expected. Last year, in the fall, one US official in passing dropped a phrase about the future losses of the Russian air forces in Syria. Surely they fitted portable MANPADS through ISIS special services. And they, the Americans, have something to answer to our diplomatic protest: they say that the terrorists in Gaddafi emptied the warehouses of Libya in Libya, and we do not mind, and we warned you.
  27. masiya
    masiya 14 July 2016 19: 25
    +2
    Our blow is a thing, but the losses of the Syrian Air Force in recent times have been a concern, whether our intelligence should scramble to identify these snipers, the CIA probably smacks of it, and the Turks are also on the alert ...
  28. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 14 July 2016 19: 37
    0
    More blows good and necessary! As the great I.V. STALIN "IF (GERMANS) THEY WANT WAR, THEY WILL GET IT!" Knead to the end! Perimerie, you will have a truce!
  29. mik6403
    mik6403 14 July 2016 19: 53
    0
    Tu-22 takes off 1-1.5 minutes in afterburner, it’s a lot of kerosene ... with the airfield there are even more jumps, that's why they bomb from Mozdok ... it's a pity the refueling rods in the air were removed under some kind of agreement ....
  30. Prince of Pensions
    Prince of Pensions 14 July 2016 20: 40
    0
    And here is the video. Cluster munitions with infantry fighting so? Old video.


    Still for the mood. Well, to know that they work.
  31. gozmosZh
    gozmosZh 14 July 2016 21: 21
    0
    Rock & Roll! Flyers! And we will finish on the earth!
  32. atamankko
    atamankko 14 July 2016 23: 21
    0
    Terrorists shouldn’t be calm anywhere,
    retribution will find them everywhere; they themselves have chosen their share.
  33. Nasty
    Nasty 15 July 2016 02: 52
    0
    Something bang bang and past. (((
  34. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 15 July 2016 07: 56
    0
    Fly through Iran + fuel reserve to barrage over the area + way back through Iran + 20% emergency fuel supply. T-22M3 has no refueling rods in the air. Here you have arithmetic. In the south, now +40 take-off performance at take-off is deteriorating.
  35. Signaller
    Signaller 15 July 2016 18: 53
    0
    I personally apologize to the "combatants". I respect and support. I agree I was wrong in the last comments. About driving the whole army through Syria. But I think that 10 tons of bombs are always better than 4 tons. I wrote about this. And so good luck, health, I understand your risk. and so on. but ... Better to kill a thousand terrorists than one. Good luck and health. Nothing personal.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 15 July 2016 20: 03
      0
      Quote: Signaller
      I personally apologize

      IzvЕnenii brought, it remains to wait for an apology. It is desirable to address those who are now "working on external enemies." Nothing personal, major retired from 06.05.1956/XNUMX/XNUMX
  36. Krokodil68
    Krokodil68 16 July 2016 08: 32
    0
    Quote: NEXUS
    Man, what I wrote quickly and mistakenly wrote instead of MI-25 MIG-25 smart people understood and do not pay attention to this mistake, and you are engaged in literary studies, trying to show how smart you are



    Heras .. "mistake" ... which "smart people do not pay attention to". lol

    Well this is really an oak excuse.
    Dear! You write about SPECIFIC brands / models of military equipment, and be so kind (PLEASE), since there is both that and another - to adhere to the nomenclature of names of this SPECIFICALLY.
    (and check what you wrote before clicking "Add")
    Point.

    PS Not that some media will undertake to quote you (as "iksperDa"), and on the basis of your commentary will argue that the Russian Aerospace Forces "fought" in Syria to "antediluvian MiG-25". repeat
  37. red joni
    red joni 17 July 2016 07: 55
    0
    ISILovtsev’s urine so that it’s back ... into the sieve of living Twa ... not to take.