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Hypersonic aircraft: a technical revolution?

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It’s too early to talk about the arms race in this area - today it’s a technology race. Hypersonic projects have not yet gone beyond the framework of OCD: while the demonstrators are mostly flying. Their technological readiness levels on the DARPA scale are mainly in the fourth to sixth positions (on a ten-point scale).

However, to talk about the hypersound as a kind of technical novelty is not necessary. ICBM warheads enter the atmosphere on a hypersound, descent vehicles with astronauts, space shuttles - this is also a hypersound. But flying at hypersonic speeds when descending from orbit is a necessary necessity, and it does not last long. We will talk about aircraft, for which hypersound is a regular mode of application, and without it they will not be able to show their superiority and show their capabilities and power.


Swift Scout
The SR-72 is a promising American aircraft that can become a functional equivalent of the legendary SR-71, a supersonic and super-maneuverable reconnaissance aircraft. The main difference from its predecessor is the absence of a pilot in the cockpit and hypersonic speed.

Strike from orbit

It will be about hypersonic maneuvering guided objects - maneuvering combat heads of ICBMs, hypersonic cruise missiles, hypersonic UAVs. What exactly do we mean by hypersonic aircraft? First of all, the following characteristics are meant: flight speed - 5 − 10 M (6150 − 12 300 km / h) and higher, covered operating height range - 25 − 140 km. One of the most attractive qualities of hypersonic devices is the impossibility of reliable tracking by air defense systems, since the object flies in a plasma cloud that is not transparent to radars. It is also worth noting the high maneuverability and minimum reaction time to the defeat. For example, a hypersonic device needs only an hour after deceleration from an orbit waiting to hit a selected target.

The projects of hypersonic devices have been developed and continue to be developed in our country more than once. We can recall the Tu-130 (6 M), the Ajax aircraft (8 − 10 M), the projects of high-speed hypersonic aircraft of the OKB Design Bureau. Mikoyan on hydrocarbon fuel in different applications and hypersonic aircraft (6 M) on two types of fuel - hydrogen for high flight speeds and kerosene for lower ones.


Boeing X-51A Waverider Hypersonic Missile Developed in the USA

He left his mark on stories engineering project OKB im. Mikoyan's “Spiral”, in which the returnable aerospace hypersonic aircraft was launched into the satellite orbit by a hypersonic razvonschikom plane, and after performing combat missions in orbit, returned to the atmosphere, it performed maneuvers also at hypersonic speeds. Developments on the project "Spiral" were used in the projects of BOR and the space shuttle "Buran". There is no officially confirmed information about the Aurora hypersonic aircraft created in the USA. Everyone has heard of him, but no one has ever seen him.

Zircon for fleet

17 March 2016, it became known that Russia officially began to test the hypersonic anti-ship cruise missile (ZCRC). The submarines of the fifth generation (the Huskies) will be armed with the newest shell, as well as surface ships and, of course, the flagship of the Russian fleet Peter the Great. The speed of 5 − 6 M and the range of at least 400 km (the rocket will cover this distance in four minutes) will significantly complicate the use of countermeasures. It is known that the rocket will use the new fuel Decilin-M, which increases the range by 300 km. The developer of the Zirkon PKR is the NPO Mashinostroyenia, which is part of the Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation. The appearance of a serial rocket can be expected by the year 2020. It should be noted that Russia has a wealth of experience in creating high-speed anti-ship cruise missiles, such as the P-700 Granit (2,5 M) production anti-ship missile, the Mosquito (270 M) production anti-ship missile, which will be replaced New PKR "Zircon".


Winged blow
The unmanned hypersonic gliding aircraft, which was developed at the Tupolev Design Bureau at the end of the 1950, should have been the last stage of the missile strike system.

Clever Warhead

The first information about the launch of the Yu-71 product (as it is designated in the West) into the near-earth orbit by the Stilett rocket RS-18 and its return to the atmosphere appeared in February 2015. The launch was made from the position area of ​​the Dombrowski compound of the 13 th missile division of the Strategic Missile Forces (Orenburg Region). It is also reported that by 2025, the division will receive X-NUMX X-24 products to equip the new Sarmat missiles. The product U-71 in the framework of the 71 project was also created by the NPO Mashinostroyenia since 4202.

The product is a super-maneuverable rocket warhead, making a planning flight at a speed of 11000 km / h. It can go into the near space and from there hit targets, as well as carry a nuclear charge and be equipped with an EW system. At the moment of “dive” entry into the atmosphere, the speed can be 5000 m / s (18000 km / h) and for this reason, the X-71 has protection against overheating and overloads, and it can easily change the direction of flight and does not collapse.


Hypersonic airframe element weaponswhich remained a project
The length of the aircraft was to make 8 m, wingspan - 2,8 m.

The product Yu-71, possessing high maneuverability at hypersonic speed in height and on course and flying not along a ballistic trajectory, becomes unattainable for any air defense system. In addition, the warhead is controllable, due to which it has a very high accuracy of destruction: this will allow it to be used also in a non-nuclear high-precision variant. It is known that several launches were made during 2011 − 2015. The Yu-71 product is expected to be adopted in the 2025 year and will be equipped with the Sarmat ICBM.

Climb up

Of the projects of the past can be noted rocket X-90, which was developed by the ICB "Raduga". The project dates back to the 1971 year, it was closed in a difficult year for the country 1992, although the tests carried out showed good results. The rocket was repeatedly demonstrated at the MAKS aerospace show. A few years later, the project was reanimated: the rocket received a speed of 4 − 5 M and a range of 3500 km with launch from the Tu-160 carrier. Demonstration flight took place in 2004 year. It was supposed to equip the missile with two detachable warheads placed on the sides of the fuselage, but the projectile never entered service.

The hypersonic missile RVV-BD was developed by the Vympel Design Bureau named after I.I. Toropov. It continues the line of K-37, K-37M missiles that are in service with the MiG-31 and MiG-31BM. The RVV-BD missile will also be armed with the hypersonic interceptors of the PAK DP project. According to the head of KTRV Boris Viktorovich Obnosov, made at MAX 2015, the rocket began to be mass-produced and its first batches will leave the assembly line in 2016 year. The missile weighs 510 kg, has a high-explosive fragmentation warhead and will hit targets at a range of 200 km in a wide range of heights. Dual-mode solid propellant rocket motors allows it to develop hypersonic speed 6 M.


SR-71
Today, this aircraft, long removed from service, occupies a prominent place in history. aviation. It is replaced by hypersound.

Hypersound Celestial

In the autumn of 2015, the Pentagon reported, and it was confirmed by Beijing, that China had successfully tested a hypersonic LA DF-ZF Yu-14 (WU-14) hypersonic aircraft that had been launched from the Uchzhai test site. Yu-14 separated from the carrier "at the edge of the atmosphere," and then planned on a target located several thousand kilometers in western China. The US intelligence services followed the flight of the DF-ZF, and according to their data, the device maneuvered at 5 M speed, although its speed could potentially reach 10 M. China stated that it solved the problem of hypersonic WFD for similar devices and created new lightweight composite materials for protection from kinetic heating. Representatives of the PRC also reported that Yu-14 is capable of breaking through the US air defense system and delivering a global nuclear strike.

Projects of America

Currently, "in work" in the United States are various hypersonic aircraft that pass flight tests with varying degrees of success. Work began on them at the beginning of 2000's, and today they are at different levels of technological readiness. Recently, the developer of the X-51A hypersonic device, the Boeing company, stated that the X-51А will be put into service as early as 2017.

Among the projects being implemented, the United States has: the AHW (Advanced Hypersonic Weapon) hypersonic maneuvering warhead project, the Falcon HTV-2 Hypers-Sonic Technology Vehicle hypersonic LA, launched with the help of an ICBM, the Hypersonic X-43 Hyper-X, a prototype hypersonic winged missile Boeing’s X-51A Waverider, equipped with a hypersonic ramjet engine with supersonic combustion. It is also known that in the United States, work is underway on the Lockheed Martin Company’s SR-72 hypersonic UAV, which only officially announced its work on this product in March 2016.


Space "spiral"
Hypersonic aircraft razgonschik, developed by the project "Spiral". It was also assumed that the system would include a military orbital aircraft with a rocket booster.

The first mention of the drone SR-72 refers to the 2013 year, when Lockheed Martin announced that the scout SR-71 will develop a hypersonic UAV SR-72. He will fly at a speed of 6400 km / h at working heights of 50 − 80 km up to suborbital, has a dual-circuit propulsion system with a common air intake and nozzle apparatus based on turbojet engines for acceleration from 3 M speed and hypersonic ramjet with supersonic combustion for flight with speeds higher than 3 M. SR-72 will carry out reconnaissance tasks, as well as deliver high-precision air-to-surface weapons in the form of light missiles without an engine — they will not need it, since a good starting hypersonic speed already has Xia.

Specialists in SR-72 problems include the choice of materials and design of cladding that can withstand high thermal loads from kinetic heating at temperatures of 2000 ° C and above. It will also be necessary to solve the problem of separating the weapon from the internal compartments at the hypersonic flight speed 5 − 6 M and exclude cases of loss of communication that were repeatedly observed during testing of the HTV-2 object. Lockheed Martin Corporation stated that the SR-72 dimension will be comparable to the SR-71 dimension - in particular, the SR-72 length will be 30 m. The SR-72 is supposed to arrive in the 2030 year.
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  1. ver_
    ver_ 16 July 2016 06: 42
    -5
    ...the quieter you go, the further you'll get...
    1. stas
      stas 16 July 2016 07: 19
      +6
      Well, you’re wrong, you can go quieter and not be in time.
      It is necessary to develop forward, and not stagnate.
      1. WKS
        WKS 16 July 2016 10: 27
        +5
        Of course, development must be carried out, but to argue that this is the weapon of the future, at least frivolously. We cannot predict ... We can only speculate. All this can be a waste of time and money, like many other military-industrial complex developments, which at best are now gathering dust in museums.
      2. ver_
        ver_ 16 July 2016 11: 56
        +1
        ... let the cargo fly very quickly .. With regards to people, I would prefer good modern airships .., maybe in some ways nostalgia .., in any case, different meetings can be held on various kinds of bridges, etc. ..- science and the technique develops in such a way that it becomes not very comfortable and it may happen that a person completely degrades and turns into a stupid animal parasitizing on what was created by ancestors, I don’t remember what the fantastic story is called ... Fantasy is not just just a fantasy, but also an element of forecasting .. Already a consumer society is being formed, debauchery and denial of spiritual values ​​...
      3. Lex.
        Lex. 7 October 2016 18: 33
        +1
        Well, you’re wrong, you can go quieter and not be in time.
        It is necessary to develop forward, and not stagnate.
        Well, maybe in 50 years they will create this pepelats when other materials appear
    2. Homo
      Homo 16 July 2016 12: 02
      +1
      Quote: ver_
      ...the quieter you go, the further you'll get...

      Do you know the whole saying? "Going quietly - you will continue from the very place where you are going!" wink
    3. guzik007
      guzik007 16 July 2016 13: 52
      +1
      .the quieter you go, the further you'll get..
      ------------------------
      From the place where you are going.: =)
  2. sa-ag
    sa-ag 16 July 2016 07: 59
    +1
    "... One of the most attractive qualities of hypersonic vehicles is the impossibility of reliable tracking by means of air defense, since the object flies in a plasma cloud, opaque for radars. It is also worth noting high maneuverability and minimal reaction time to defeat. For example, a hypersonic vehicle requires only an hour after leaving orbit waiting to hit the selected target. "
    An hour of time is by no means small enough to arrange an appropriate meeting on earth
    1. user
      user 16 July 2016 10: 43
      +2
      One of the most attractive qualities of hypersonic devices is the impossibility of reliable tracking by air defense means, since the object flies in a plasma cloud that is opaque to radar.


      Which by the way is a big minus (in the sense of remote control in an unmanned version) and the transmission of target designation signals.
    2. Antiprogressor
      Antiprogressor 16 July 2016 10: 56
      +5
      Objection. The target is observed at any speed in passive mode. Those. Yes! Clouds interfere, all sorts of "air bubbles" - the same clouds, but invisible (we went through physics at school: water vapor, this is a transparent gas ... And clouds are fog ... Well, there, Dew Point and others. ..
      Which of the navigators and pilots know AT cards and OMY cards ....
      Okay, I'll explain it on my fingers: on the simplest P-35M (Saturn) stolen from the Canadians after the war ... yes, okay - "legally licensed", like bomber sights ... so, at these stations I easily accompanied missiles of all types: medium, long-range, warheads of both types and descent vehicles ... Yes! Tupolev 144 and Concordes - about nothing, worked with them repeatedly.
      Notice! 1946 radar developed. Lamp!
      We had a mechanical computer on the Tu-16! Damn, as you recall ... to hell with us, in addition to the multi-page formula for dropping a bomb, into the device of the OPB-11 sight (15). Horror!
      But with ground-based radars, any missiles are visible in precisely the plasma wake. It is a gross heterogeneity, a kind of impedance is manifested during irradiation.
      In general, there are nooks and crannies for each screw. Eh
    3. Antiprogressor
      Antiprogressor 16 July 2016 11: 51
      +1
      Objection. The target is observed at any speed in passive mode. Those. Yes! Clouds interfere, all sorts of "air bubbles" - the same clouds, but invisible (we went through physics at school: water vapor, this is a transparent gas ... And clouds are fog ... Well, there, Dew Point and others. ..
      Which of the navigators and pilots know AT cards and OMY cards ....
      Okay, I'll explain it on my fingers: on the simplest P-35M (Saturn) stolen from the Canadians after the war ... yes, okay - "legally licensed", like bomber sights ... so, at these stations I easily accompanied missiles of all types: medium, long-range, warheads of both types and descent vehicles ... Yes! Tupolev 144 and Concordes - about nothing, worked with them repeatedly.
      Notice! 1946 radar developed. Lamp!
      We had a mechanical computer on the Tu-16! Damn, as you recall ... to hell with us, in addition to the multi-page formula for dropping a bomb, into the device of the OPB-11 sight (15). Horror!
      But with ground-based radars, any missiles are visible in precisely the plasma wake. It is a gross heterogeneity, a kind of impedance is manifested during irradiation.
      In general, there are nooks and crannies for each screw. Eh
    4. clidon
      clidon 16 July 2016 12: 29
      0
      That is, the strategic missile warheads are invisible to the radar? And what for we have so many built them.
    5. gridasov
      gridasov 16 July 2016 13: 04
      -6
      You are talking about the attractiveness of what you cannot imagine as a complex of properties and phenomena. The plasma cloud does not even appear now as a radial polarization system. The dimension and EMF vector of such a polarization do not exist at all as definitions. What are you talking about? You are talking about some kind of reference hour without realizing that the dimension of the process of variable physical events occurs relative to each individual process.
      1. guzik007
        guzik007 16 July 2016 13: 55
        +3
        ABOUT! Gridasov was released from the hospital for a week.
        1. gridasov
          gridasov 16 July 2016 14: 24
          -2
          And this hospital is called life among people! But I told them that they would not understand me. But they said, "You just be yourself."
    6. Simple
      Simple 18 July 2016 01: 11
      0
      About the "plasma cloud" you bent it.
      Is software a "black hole" that will gaze at all electromagnetic waves?
      Oh well.
      With the radar of meteors, the solar corona, etc., check out at leisure, if @ leisure @ will be
  3. NEXUS
    NEXUS 16 July 2016 09: 16
    +4
    We are at the stage when an aircraft or a rocket with hyperspeed characteristics appears, capable of not only gaining this speed, but also maneuvering with it. There was once a time when the world was waiting for the appearance of supersonic, just as hypersonic is now . Which country is currently closer to creating, say, a combat aircraft with such high-speed characteristics, one can only guess. But the fact that all technologically advanced powers carry out work on this topic is an indisputable fact.
    And God forbid us in this, not to be left behind, but to be the first.
    1. ssergn
      ssergn 16 July 2016 13: 56
      +1
      People, damn it. There was already an article on VO - we have hypersound. Although small - Pantsyrya rocket, emnip.kak something like this.
  4. Lex.
    Lex. 16 July 2016 09: 34
    +10
    SR-71 - supersonic and super-maneuverable reconnaissance
    What is its super maneuverability?
    1. Megatron
      Megatron 16 July 2016 10: 23
      +7
      He just does not have maneuverability.
      The radius of the turn in the ph is 300 km.
  5. VIT101
    VIT101 16 July 2016 10: 05
    +5
    Title of the article: "Hypersonic Aircraft: A Technological Revolution?"
    The author should know that unmanned aerial vehicles, including hypersonic ones, which are discussed in the article, are not called airplanes. The creation of a hypersonic manned aircraft, that is, an aircraft from the technical and financial sides, is currently a futile task.
    1. Pushkar77
      Pushkar77 16 July 2016 12: 53
      +6
      I agree. Author, wow you light it up, but please show us the super-maneuverable "Blackbird", I probably slept for fifty years. If a turn of 300 km is super-maneuverability for you, then what is not super-maneuverability? Probably turn around the globe. If you make a brisk maneuver on hypersound as you say, then at best you will see a bunch of debris, at worst only dust. Aircraft flying at Mach 4-5 are created, but after that big and very big problems begin. The most technologically advanced American hypersonic devices in the world were falling apart after ten seconds of flight, while they were spending hundreds of billions of green, and you are going to make them not yet sour. You are our science fiction revolutionaries, who do not spare your belly and the dough of the people, you already have a PAK FA that you have already forgotten (or are trying to do it), finish it, or have you already spent all the money you saw on it? To begin with, let RSK MiG create the MiG-41, and then already having a reason to create your own vehicles, at least you will have something to start with, otherwise how many times do you want to leave the country without the last pants with these countless PAKs. And please, whoever wants to put an electromagnetic contraption on a hyper apparatus, do not do this, before you have time to blink, the apparatus will cease its mortal existence, as soon as it is born.
  6. iwind
    iwind 16 July 2016 10: 48
    +3
    Here is a hypersound for RCC raises questions. What to do with temperature? The heating of the casing will be hoo (it can easily go well beyond 1000 s) at medium and low altitude. Or will it be understood in 20 km? Then the issue of fuel costs and engine optimization and target search.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 16 July 2016 11: 15
      +3
      Quote: iwind
      The heating of the casing will be hoo (it can easily go well beyond 1000 s) at medium and low altitude.

      Hypersound at low altitude? This is how much fuel the aircraft will need to disperse and maintain the necessary speed?
      1. iwind
        iwind 16 July 2016 11: 35
        0
        Quote: sa-ag
        Quote: iwind
        The heating of the casing will be hoo (it can easily go well beyond 1000 s) at medium and low altitude.

        Hypersound at low altitude? This is how much fuel the aircraft will need to disperse and maintain the necessary speed?

        So I am the same. Pkr same.
        Quote: Vadim237
        "How to deal with temperature" - Tantalum carbide body, melting point 3880 degrees.

        And inside? GOS and electronics etc.
        1. vadimtt
          vadimtt 18 July 2016 09: 06
          0
          And the electronics and the main structural elements are cooled by evaporation of fuel, there are no other options yet wink
      2. Philip Staros
        Philip Staros 4 October 2016 01: 20
        0
        Maybe how the X-32 will fly? - dive from a height of 40+ km?
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 16 July 2016 11: 19
      +2
      "How to deal with temperature" - Tantalum carbide body, melting point 3880 degrees.
  7. ver_
    ver_ 16 July 2016 12: 06
    +1
    Quote: Vadim237
    "How to deal with temperature" - Tantalum carbide body, melting point 3880 degrees.

    Like a thermos ..
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 16 July 2016 14: 14
      0
      What is needed for rockets.
  8. gridasov
    gridasov 16 July 2016 12: 27
    -3
    Absolutely obvious . that now there are no mathematical methods for analyzing physical processes at ultra-high flight speeds of an object and in ultra-rapidly changing external conditions. Therefore, the imitation of such modeling is replaced by experiment and again by experiment. But! This is no longer the area of ​​nuka and knowledge that will allow you to change combinations in "baking cubes". It is necessary to change the dimension of the mathematical tool itself in order to be able to see processes both deeper and in dynamics and in the expanded capabilities of their transforming abilities. Therefore . To at least understand why hyperspeed objects will fall apart in flight, you need to identify the process, at least with those processes that occur with the fastest moving parts of, for example, turbine blades. What happens in the shoulder blades when they collapse? At high speeds of rotation, they sharply change their linear polarization due to the ionizing ability of the flow of the outflowing medium. This causes wave algorithmic oscillations within the structure of absolutely any material. Therefore, I want to mean the futility of this direction of solving the problem. However, relatively cheap materials, but with a system of "depolarizing" them in the flow, will be able to work at dramatically higher rotor speeds. Let us return to the fact that internal wave processes in the structure of the material during turbulent outflow of the flow begin to create polarization at all points of the blade and this systematically causes oscillations of the entire blade, which ultimately simply "twists" —that is, it collapses. Absolutely the same processes take place in aircraft moving at high speeds. The very heating of the case is in itself a manifestation of increasing magnetic force processes of different polarization. Ultimately, these objects will be destroyed. So, that "it is better to know something than not to know" as smart people said.
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    2. bk316
      bk316 16 July 2016 16: 00
      +3
      Quote: gridasov
      algorithmic fluctuations

      What?

      Do you come up with phrases yourself or do you have a program?
      If the program does not share?
      I really want to see the code.
      Bullshit sounds beautiful, I once dealt with such algorithms.
      1. gridasov
        gridasov 16 July 2016 16: 34
        0
        Algorithmic fluctuations !!?. I'll give you an example. There is such a demonstrative experience, when in a row suspended loads are taken away from the vertical position and then watch how these pendulums perform oscillatory movements. Oscillations have interrelated mathematical algorithms. That is, their sequence alternates in such a way that it corresponds to the numerical sequences - this is what is called an algorithm. Another example can be cited when a "magnetic fluid" is poured onto a speaker and it changes the shape of its mass distribution over the plane. They are also algorithmic and correspond to numerical algorithms. Therefore, when the liquid flowing linearly over the surface changes its velocity from laminar flow and further to turbulent and even further, then the ionization process in the material structure changes this ionization of the surface, and, accordingly, of the entire housing of the same turbine blade - Correctly - BY ALGORITHM! Therefore, when we get a solution by inserting mathematical sequences into the formula and ultimately we get infinity as well as a mathematical sequence, but in fact any mathematical series, as an infinite sequence, can be reduced to the algorithms of these numbers in the series of this infinite sequence. These algorithms show that wave processes are always cyclical and symmetric with respect to the polarization of their forms and the processes that occur in them, due to ionization or relative impact on them. And where is this nonsense?
        1. bk316
          bk316 17 July 2016 23: 34
          +2
          Quote: gridasov
          That is, their sequence is alternated in such a way that it corresponds to numerical sequences - this is what is called an algorithm

          No, the algorithm is a way of transforming the presentation of information that meets certain criteria. Correspondence of physical processes to the results of such mathematical abstractions as identification abstraction within the framework of various models is not an algorithm.
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    3. pimen
      pimen 16 July 2016 21: 04
      +1
      Quote: gridasov
      What happens in the shoulder blades when they collapse? At high speeds of rotation, they sharply change their linear polarization due to the ionizing ability of the flow of the outflowing medium. This causes wave algorithmic oscillations within the structure of absolutely any material. Therefore, I want to mean the futility of this direction of solving the problem. However, relatively cheap materials, but with a system of "depolarizing" them in the flow, will be able to work at dramatically higher rotor speeds. Let us return to the fact that internal wave processes in the structure of the material during turbulent outflow of the flow begin to create polarization at all points of the blade and this systematically causes oscillations of the entire blade, which ultimately simply "twists" —that is, it collapses. Absolutely the same processes take place in aircraft moving at high speeds.

      why don’t you like the traditional understanding of the fracture model: that the increasing angular velocity INCREASES the longitudinal and transverse loads on the blades, eventually exceeding their tensile strength?
      1. gridasov
        gridasov 16 July 2016 21: 19
        +1
        Because the velocity, albeit angular, but since the blades are located in such a way that its different points are located along the length at different radii from the center of rotation, and the air flow moves in the same vector, then the process causing the causes of destruction is considered not from the load, as empirical determination, but both from the electromagnetic processes. Simultaneously occurring in the flow of the outflow medium and in the structure of the blade. Therefore, it is possible to build not just a model of the loads at each point of the blade, but to build a model of the dynamic transformations of these loads as a dynamic system. That is, we can obtain a model of transformation algorithms and potential at each point of the blade, depending on the set of properties in the submobile outflow flow and the direction vector of these processes. And in the end we can get a model of the processes that clearly show that a modern engine is not built logically within the minimum thresholds or boundaries of these loads, which lead to its destruction. That is, no one argues that the current methodologies have no place and the right to exist, but without seeing the processes and reasons limiting the engine's operation, nothing more effective can be created. And then the model built on the "new properties of the number" is accurate in definitions, and modern models are calculated using coefficients with indefinite mathematical sequences of numbers.
        1. pimen
          pimen 16 July 2016 21: 31
          +1
          Quote: gridasov
          Because the speed is albeit angular, but since the blades are located in such a way that its different points are located along the length in different radii from the center of rotation, and the air stream moves in the same vector, the process causing the destruction is not considered as an empirical load definitions, and how from electromagnetic processes.

          Hmm, that’s complicated. And what, these electromagnetic processes were somehow fixed (at least by someone)?
          1. gridasov
            gridasov 16 July 2016 21: 38
            0
            You put me in a difficult position, all the information in sight when all the physical effects are described in textbooks, in the experiments of their discoverers. Coanda effects, Pocket tracks. Magnus effects and much more. Do not make me list them and show their systemic relationship.
      2. gridasov
        gridasov 16 July 2016 21: 28
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        Not seeing the physical process as complex in the relationships in the flow of the outflow and in the structure of the material, the designers naturally solve the problem by searching for durable material. And this limits them in finding solution methods. That is, the only thing that remains is an experiment. Analyzing the process, we change its algorithms at each point of flow of the blade and use the properties of both the transforming substance of the hydro-gas-dynamic flow and the properties of the material of the blade and ultimately get a radically new quality of the result. Which you do not see from the experiment.
        1. pimen
          pimen 16 July 2016 21: 43
          0
          the "hitting" method you described has been working great since the advent of humanity.
          But, for example, there are some differences in the electromagnetic field along the edges of the blades, but are they so significant if the blades are all the same destroyed in the "expected" ranges of rotation speed?
          1. gridasov
            gridasov 16 July 2016 21: 51
            0
            I described the "typing" method ?! We get a spatial dynamical model in numbers as an identity of the holographic local space. And because your yardstick is very narrow boundaries of the email scale. magnetic waves. If the Kirlian effect is fictional in your opinion, then I'm sorry.
            You see, but in order to describe more or less real reality with modern computers, scientists create a system with multiple processors. I'm not talking about the "typing" method, but a "single processor" - a mathematical model with an incredible number of possible functions that can replace all these processors with all the ensuing conclusions.
            1. pimen
              pimen 16 July 2016 22: 07
              0
              Okay, I can't beat you in your field, but the question, sooner or later, turns into a practical area. And what to do? In addition, electrify the flowing stream so that the magnetic field attracts the blades to the center, or, conversely, "zero out" the center of the turbine? But what about the back of the scapula? Rather, how to make the stream support it?
              1. gridasov
                gridasov 16 July 2016 22: 28
                +1
                Everything is simply incredible because it is hidden behind the theory of understanding exactly the new "property" of a number. By the way, the first one who came to this was Schauberger. However, he was unable to optimize his design as a process. But his reasoning served as a very serious help to understanding the essence of the process.
                I can only suggest that modern designers do not understand the simplest phenomena on a rotating disc. Hence, the turbine itself is not used in its full potential as a set of processes, and, secondly, it does not match the processes in the turbine with the process of input and output of the flow from it. For instance . An efficient turbine design allows the use of both inlet and outlet flow along the entire azimuth of the space around it. And it's just elementary. Remember what kind of movement allows you to reach the maximum speed of the bullet. But we are smart and continue to stubbornly use only linear motion vectors. What is behind this? not just the ability to instantly redirect all air flow in the opposite direction without losing "power". This is not an end in itself. It just immediately negates the difference between an airplane and a helicopter. The rotor speed scale is orders of magnitude higher. In this case, the aircraft becomes invisible in terms of the low noise of the engines.
                By the way, the "zeroing" of the turbine center is extremely important. If we mean the same aspect of its work at the stage of entry of the flow into it.
                The blade works as an efficient "wing" with the highest lifting force along the rotor rotation vector. The flow exit from each vane is directly perpendicular to the radius, but the air flow itself follows a natural trajectory. Therefore, its low noise is ensured. A special conversation about the combustion chamber. But!
                1. pimen
                  pimen 16 July 2016 22: 39
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                  Quote: gridasov
                  Remember what kind of movement allows you to achieve maximum flight speeds of the bullet. But we are smart and continue to persistently use only linear motion vectors.

                  in my opinion, without rotation faster
                  Quote: gridasov
                  The blade works as an efficient "wing" with the highest lifting force along the rotor rotation vector. The flow exit from each blade is directly perpendicular to the radius, but the air flow itself moves along a natural trajectory

                  the wing is breaking
                  1. gridasov
                    gridasov 16 July 2016 22: 55
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                    Wait!? The natural flight or flow around a classical ball with a laminar flow of liquid air or water causes its rotation. If this is not so, then what is the conversation about. Just transform the process into flight, and not flow around and all. Turn on the imagination. The emergence of a rotating ball force is an analogy of a unipolar motor. This means that there is always a ratio of rotational forces to longitudinal forces. Now think about where such an interconnection comes from. Correctly ! Magnetic force processes ionizing the surface of the ball form a potential difference at its critical polarization points. And the vector of the outflow of the stream along a linear vector forms the rotation moment according to the Burawchik rule. Of course, everything should be scientifically substantiated. But for simple reasons, I think it’s clear the same way. But !!! This is only a private consideration of the issue. Increase the flow rate and the rotation speed will increase. This means that we can already consider a dynamic process of a certain dimension in which ionization and rotation forces develop according to algorithms. And when the critical moment of polarization of the ball comes, it will simply be disaggregated to small and energetically potentially stable sizes. The process diagram is completely simple. And the same thing will happen with the aircraft at hyper speed - simply by other mathematical description parameters.
                    1. pimen
                      pimen 16 July 2016 23: 21
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                      Quote: gridasov
                      Wait!? The natural flight or flow around a classical ball with a laminar flow of liquid air or water causes its rotation. If this is not so, then what is the conversation about? Turn on the imagination. The emergence of a rotating ball force is an analogy of a unipolar motor. This means that there is always a ratio of rotational forces to longitudinal forces. Now think about where such an interconnection comes from. Correctly ! Magnetic force processes ionizing the surface of the ball form a potential difference at its critical polarization points. And the vector of the outflow of the stream along a linear vector forms the rotation moment according to the Burawchik rule.

                      If the ball is perfect, with the power perfectly applied in the center - why would it spin? And in which direction will the rotation be? (will this not be a consequence of the influence of the gravitational field of the Earth?)
                      1. gridasov
                        gridasov 17 July 2016 11: 12
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                        If the ball is in a passive state relative to gravitational forces, and the flow is active, then clockwise rotation to one side of the flow (Rule of the Left hand or gimlet) If the flow is passive as a relatively static medium, and the ball or object moves, then from the object to the medium clockwise.
                        All this is primitive and in a basic way known and understandable. The question is different: if modern mathematics builds a model on limited input data and considers any process in the analysis based on a limited number of these parameters, while the basic functions of the integration or differentiation process or addition-subtraction are used in the basis, then it seems more convenient to build the analysis model on unlimited input data and the model takes into account the systematic relationship of these inputs. Moreover, it becomes possible to take into account some new parameter, besides integration and differentiation. That is, a new function for analyzing the process itself is introduced.
                2. gridasov
                  gridasov 16 July 2016 23: 03
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                  Something admin does not favor me so I will answer here. The wing should be discussed separately. In its form, it should correspond, so to speak, to an "induction coot" without the effects of self-induction. Ie it is without turns and solid. What does it mean ? That ionization processes should not "break" it. Therefore, by chance or not, I don't know, but Arkhip Lyulka made an influx on the shoulder blade. But he did it without justification, and the whole wing needs to be formed accordingly. Therefore, you need to understand that this influx does not make the wing stronger for a break, but forms the distribution of magnetic forces in such a way that the wing becomes operational in an increased polarization from ionization.
                  1. pimen
                    pimen 16 July 2016 23: 40
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                    Quote: gridasov
                    Therefore, by chance or not, I don’t know, but Arkhip Lulka made an influx on the shoulder blade. But he did it without justification, and he needs to form the entire wing accordingly. Therefore, it must be understood that this influx does not make the wing stronger in kink, but forms the distribution of magnetic forces so that the wing becomes working in an increased polarization from

                    influx and increases strength, and creates a more rational transition between different surfaces in terms of flow
                    1. pimen
                      pimen 17 July 2016 00: 15
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                      somehow with me, after all. it is believed that you are using "the number of entities more necessary."
                      1. gridasov
                        gridasov 17 July 2016 11: 20
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                        But you cannot argue that these entities do not exist in human life or that they are limited. Prick yourself in the finger with a needle and your worldview and perception of its essence will change instantly. Although this injection does not seem to be vitally dangerous. And for some, at some point it can be very dangerous. We cannot neglect any aspect or factor of interactions with space. Another thing is that these entities are also transformed according to the degree of dimension and influence on the essence of our life as existence
                    2. gridasov
                      gridasov 17 July 2016 11: 16
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                      Everything is correct, but this justification is sufficient only to satisfy the requirements of the experiment. And besides, you cannot know where is the limit of tensile strength and flexibility limit - if so exaggerated. Therefore, the influx creates a distribution of magnetic force fluxes, which change the structure of destructive loads. This technique allows you to see the processes in transformation and in the flow environment and in the "hardware" simultaneously and in interconnection.
  9. ver_
    ver_ 16 July 2016 12: 59
    +1
    Quote: Homo
    Quote: ver_
    ...the quieter you go, the further you'll get...

    Do you know the whole saying? "Going quietly - you will continue from the very place where you are going!" wink

    ... Well, if we take into account that the death for a person is the end, so if it is necessary to force this event .. The guardian angel is limited in speed and obviously does not have hypersound ..
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 16 July 2016 17: 11
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      Speed ​​is like something related to moving in space. But speed is an interconnected process of transformation of some physical states or harmonics into others. That is, the transformation of one information space into another. So time can be measured or perceived as the transformation of some complex states according to the algorithms to others. In this case, changes occur not only along one linear vector, but also along all coordinate axes. The very same person, remaining an individual and transforming in internal changes, also changes in relations with other people — in the family, in the city, in the country, and as an integral part of humanity. Therefore, time is also needed to be considered as a dimension by algorithms, and not just as with respect to certain astronomical periods or standards.
  10. guzik007
    guzik007 16 July 2016 14: 06
    -1
    Personally, it seems to me that the designers "hit the ceiling" in terms of speeds. And with traditional approaches to this problem, nothing will come of it. Yes, of course, it will surely fly, but it will fly strictly straight with barely permissible angular deviations, otherwise it will fall apart. Physics in its modern sense cannot be trampled on. Technological impasse.
    And then a seditious thought arises. And by what principles does a UFO move with its gigantic accelerations and angular displacements that cannot be explained? And this is where "another physics" begins, with a controlled body mass and controlled gravity.
    But these attempts are forbidden by official science and those who try to do this are given an anathema.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 16 July 2016 14: 19
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      Cold plasma to reduce the resistance of the airframe design - similar to a rocket - torpedoes Flurry, creating an environment around the apparatus that reduces air resistance.
    2. gridasov
      gridasov 16 July 2016 14: 31
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      A gyroscope is a ready-made example of how you can use a rotating mass as a process for distributing the vectors of the direction of motion of this mass. Therefore, if the gyroscope is standing, it "does not work". But you can not rotate the mass as a body. You can rotate magnetic fluxes around it. Therefore, everyone moves in the space of environments, but not those who call themselves people. But don't worry, fly soon.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 16 July 2016 15: 41
        +1
        The combined engine, which was recently written about, for the sixth generation fighter and aerospace aircraft - in iron
        1. gridasov
          gridasov 16 July 2016 16: 23
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          In principle, you can keep silent, but if you face the truth, then it should not be so, so that it is close to ideal or, in other words, as effective as possible. General forms and proportions as obvious manifest its construction as an old concept of the physical principle on which it works.
  11. Verdun
    Verdun 16 July 2016 17: 08
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    Among the problematic issues of SR-72, experts include the choice of materials and casing designs that can withstand large thermal loads from kinetic heating at temperatures of 2000 ° C and above
    As I understand it, an equally important problem is the creation of engines that can operate in hypersonic modes for a long time, providing acceptable efficiency. So far, only the existence of experimental samples can be assumed.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 16 July 2016 19: 26
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      We have already created such an engine, and hypersonic TTRD is enough for missiles.
  12. ple
    ple 16 July 2016 18: 12
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    SR-71 - a supersonic and super maneuverable reconnaissance. ????? this is when he managed to become super maneuverable !!!!!
  13. realist
    realist 16 July 2016 19: 08
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    Either the Americans breed us for an arms race, or our native theoreticians from the military-industrial complex want money for R&D, I don’t understand and I am afraid that the money will go nowhere ...
  14. Turkestan
    Turkestan 17 July 2016 11: 27
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    If the object is supposed to be used at such high altitudes and speeds, then how interesting the question will be about the KINET HEATING of the object
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 17 July 2016 11: 39
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      In addition to passive protection, they do not know other methods. And passive methods of protection are the banal use of strength or heat insulating properties of materials. But it is very difficult to combine strength and structure in heat-insulating materials. However, using the properties of electrical conductivity and configuration, it is possible to redistribute the polarity, which means that alternating magnetic forces can be not only balanced, but also used in the desired target and task vector.
  15. ver_
    ver_ 17 July 2016 11: 27
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    Quote: guzik007
    .the quieter you go, the further you'll get..
    ------------------------
    From the place where you are going.: =)

    All people go to their resting place, cemetery ..., lovers of fast and extreme driving get there much earlier and still grab passengers for the company .. Are you from this cohort? ..
  16. Cat
    Cat 17 July 2016 18: 14
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    Hypervolume is speed. The author does not in vain draw our attention to the fact that a high speed of 8-10 max makes it possible to break through almost any air defense system.
  17. LvKiller
    LvKiller 17 July 2016 21: 07
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    New order to Hollywood? The wooden American Navy awaits wooden aircraft and wooden pilots. Alas, to control the aircraft, surrounded by plasma on hypersound, even in "Hollywood" will be removed from the tenth take ...
  18. Tishka
    Tishka 17 July 2016 22: 17
    +1
    At one time, I came across an interesting book where projects of hyper-sonic bombers were discussed, which is the funniest, edition of 60 years. Yes, and Roberto Oros di Bartini worked in this area, it's a pity that all his developments were destroyed, there was an idea, cooling the hull with fuel, which, under the influence of high temperatures, decomposed, simultaneously cooling the skin of the aircraft. So, everything is new. , this is an attempt at a new level, to implement old ideas, heights also featured there, from 40 kilometers and above, where the minimum air resistance. And going into low orbits will allow you to strike at any point on the Earth's surface, with minimal interception! In the above picture, the idea of ​​using the Buran as a carrier of the Spiral's combat systems, unfortunately, has not been implemented in practice.
  19. Bersaglieri
    Bersaglieri 21 July 2016 10: 51
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    "... SR-71 - a supersonic and super-maneuverable reconnaissance aircraft ..." - Super-maneuverable? Yeah, especially at cruising 2.9M (with a turning radius of 500 km :))

    Correct the signature, please.
  20. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 23 July 2016 12: 33
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    What has Roberto Bartini's archive already declassified? They waited a long time to understand the genius of the aircraft industry! Hm, peacocks, you say?
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 24 July 2016 11: 24
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      Even declassification makes it impossible to understand the reasoning of the scientist. This means that the same level of genius of the scientist must work with this information. Then he is able to see the ideas and methods of their implementation. Therefore, Bartini and Schauberger and Tesla eventually go even further into oblivion. The school of science is changing and this introduces a gap in the understanding of their teachings.
  21. Pacifist
    Pacifist 4 October 2016 09: 59
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    The RVV-DB hypersonic missile was developed by the Vympel Design Bureau named after I.I. Toropova. ... the rocket began to be mass-produced and its first batches will go off the assembly line in 2016. The missile weighs 510 kg, has a high-explosive fragmentation warhead and will hit targets at 200 km ranges over a wide range of heights. The dual-mode solid propellant rocket motor allows it to develop a hypersonic speed of 6 M.


    Suddenly belay
    Only recently at a scientific and practical conference on hypersound it was said about entering combat hypersound no earlier than 2020-2025 ... and here is the news good
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 8 October 2016 11: 19
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      I wonder what is the basis for such assumptions? There is no reason why exactly 20-25 years will be a breakthrough. In general, it is worth "adding fuel to the fire" and telling the talkers and amateurs that if you want to achieve the voiced speeds, you will not have to fight the gravitational forces, but rather increase them. Who does not believe, wait until the moment of real testing, when the device, at least, will not fall apart, for good reasons.
  22. Phoenix_L'vov
    Phoenix_L'vov 23 November 2016 19: 32
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    this is the impossibility of reliable tracking by air defense means, since the object flies in a plasma cloud opaque to radars
    - what kind of nonsense, plasma reflects radio waves like a good mirror, better than metal, and in the thermal range for IR-GOS it generally glows like a spotlight at night!
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 10 July 2017 13: 18
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      It is worth saying that plasma of a certain level of the potential of interactions as a circuit does not transmit radio waves. BUT!!! It transmits radio waves of the range within which this plasma exists. Moreover, it enhances this signal.