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The Russian side warned NATO about the consequences of increasing activity in the Black Sea region

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The Russian delegation warned the alliance at a meeting of the Russia-NATO Council (NRC) about the negative consequences of increased activity in the Black Sea, reports RIA News The message of the permanent representative of the Russian Federation Alexander Grushko.




“We discussed this issue, we discussed the Black Sea. We said that we believe that any increase in the military activity of the NATO countries in the Black Sea region destabilizes the situation and does not contribute to security in the region ",
Grushko told reporters.

In response to the strengthening of the NATO grouping of ships, Russia will do everything so that "the balance of forces in the region is not upset."

The agency recalls that "according to the Montreux Convention of 1936, the stay in the Black Sea of ​​non-Black Sea warships is limited to 21 day". That is, among the NATO countries, only Romania, Turkey and Bulgaria can afford a permanent presence in the waters of the Black Sea.

The NRC meeting took place on Wednesday in Brussels.
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  1. gray smeet
    gray smeet 14 July 2016 10: 40
    +12
    Thus, among NATO countries, only Romania, Turkey and Bulgaria can afford a permanent presence in the waters of the Black Sea. At the same time, Sofia refused to participate in the initiative to increase the presence of the forces of the alliance, saying that "does not want a war in the region."

    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/politics/20160713/1465431528.html#ixzz4EMpZjGMk

    They didn’t politically correctly insert a line in a reprinted article ... laughing
    1. Vend
      Vend 14 July 2016 10: 43
      +21
      The cat scratches on its back.
      1. Constructor1
        Constructor1 14 July 2016 11: 09
        +7
        stay in the waters of the Black Sea warships of non-Black Sea powers is limited to a period of 21 days

        And on the 22nd day ships violators will be fromCALIBERovans am
    2. vkl.47
      vkl.47 14 July 2016 10: 52
      +14
      and Amers do not care about Mantra and the UN and everything. There are no rules for these ghouls. they consider themselves 《exceptional》
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 14 July 2016 11: 30
        +2
        Quote: vkl.47
        and Amers do not care about Mantra and the UN and everything. There are no rules for these ghouls. they consider themselves 《exceptional》


        Ships need to be built. And submarines with VNEU.
        Then they will listen to warnings. hi
        1. kodxnumx
          kodxnumx 14 July 2016 12: 30
          0
          Similarly, NATO and entering the Black Sea will feel like kamikaze!
        2. Rom14
          Rom14 14 July 2016 12: 32
          0
          Horned mines of the sample 45 ...
          1. sgazeev
            sgazeev 14 July 2016 19: 06
            0
            Quote: Rom14
            Horned mines of the sample 45 ...

            And suddenly they come up, the anchors also "get tired". belay
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    3. Krokodil68
      Krokodil68 16 July 2016 04: 04
      0
      ... Politically correct did not insert a line in a reprinted article ... (c)

      And what has that changed?
      Has the meaning of the article changed?
      Indeed, in the original source (as in the above article) there was a SIMPLE LIST of the NATO member countries belonging to the Black Sea region (having the right to the permanent presence of their Navy at the World Cup).
      Nobody specifically accused Bulgaria of "building up the military presence."
      The absence of the "line" you mentioned does not change ANYTHING.
      Something like that.

      But, if you, of course, wish ...
  2. Irokez
    Irokez 14 July 2016 10: 41
    +4
    any increase in the military activity of NATO countries in the Black Sea region destabilizes the situation and does not contribute to security in the region

    And this is the right warning. Where the Agnlo-Saxon knock sets in, democracy begins, and this is devastation and destabilization, the deterioration of the social sphere and the closure of enterprises.
    1. Dimy4
      Dimy4 14 July 2016 11: 31
      +2
      Agnlo sax

      Damn, I almost broke my tongue, It’s easier to read impudently-Saxon.
  3. hirurg
    hirurg 14 July 2016 10: 41
    0
    It’s time for NATO to think. After all, they have been warned so many times in various situations.
    And they all climb and climb wherever necessary.
    1. gray smeet
      gray smeet 14 July 2016 10: 44
      +4
      Quote: hirurg
      It’s time for NATO to think. After all, they have been warned so many times in various situations.
      And they all climb and climb wherever necessary.


      Because these warnings are "leftists"! When you have to show your teeth and then they will think and stop climbing.
      1. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina 14 July 2016 12: 15
        +7
        Quote: gray smeet
        Because these warnings are "leftists"! When you have to show your teeth and then they will think and stop climbing.


        I suspect that after showing teethThere’s no one to climb, and maybe there’s nowhere else !!!
    2. Altona
      Altona 14 July 2016 10: 52
      +6
      Quote: hirurg
      It’s time for NATO to think. After all, they have been warned so many times in various situations.
      And they all climb and climb wherever necessary.

      ------------------
      They are dismantling international law. Just do not talk about it.
    3. Professor
      Professor 14 July 2016 11: 23
      +18
      Quote: hirurg
      It’s time for NATO to think. After all, they have been warned so many times in various situations.
      And they all climb and climb wherever necessary.

      ... and every time after the "last" warning, nothing came. Impossible threats are worthless.
      1. Shark Lover
        Shark Lover 14 July 2016 12: 01
        +1
        Right. It’s like a saying. Offended once in the yard, forget it, they fuckers, the second time forget it, God will order them, the third time-endure, you are a man, the fourth touched, answer so, remember about life
    4. Orionvit
      Orionvit 14 July 2016 11: 34
      +4
      They wanted to spit on NATO at all international conventions. They are the heirs to the masters of world wars, and this is their main task. I could not break Russia in two world wars and one cold, unleashing a third. They never calm down, and do not even hide their plans. So, to deceive ourselves about the West is a crime.
  4. cniza
    cniza 14 July 2016 10: 42
    +9
    That is, among NATO countries, only Romania, Turkey and Bulgaria can afford a permanent presence in the waters of the Black Sea.


    Our "aircraft carrier" Crimea easily solves the problem of controlling the entire Black Sea and it is simply stupid and pointless to build up a grouping there.
    1. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 15 July 2016 04: 36
      0
      For an "aircraft carrier" planes are needed and much more. We have more squandering India, then someone else. Realistically it is necessary to assess the situation, and not to build illusions. Now we need weapons more than ever!
  5. newcomer
    newcomer 14 July 2016 10: 43
    +3
    We need to increase our Black Sea Fleet, the only way we squeeze them out.
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 14 July 2016 10: 46
    +6
    It is time to relax, after the Crimea. NATO will not have a naval base in the Crimea, and everything else - egg broth. Tasteless and not satisfying. You shouldn’t wave your fists after the fight.
    1. Bramb
      Bramb 14 July 2016 11: 00
      +5
      In the states, tenders have already passed in the 2013 year, who will camp where, where some schools in Crimea need to be repaired for the families of their sailors. They have already allocated money, purchased materials, began to count bonuses for salaries ... and then oppa! Bummer-s !!! It's a shame, yes.
      Well, the Khokhlov, who is in power, is insulting: they were promised millions more for transferring the Crimea to the states, and Petyune was even more so. It was not a pity to give them the Crimea: he was never Ukrainian and they did not consider him theirs.
      Here, from their anger, greed, meanness and shoot people in the Donbass.
  7. rus-b4
    rus-b4 14 July 2016 10: 46
    +4
    I watched KVN in the late 90s and early 2000s, the theme of the return of the Crimea, both from our teams and Ukrainian, often flashes there. As a result, the more you voice the desire, the more real it is. Now more and more often the thought sounds to take the straits and make the Black Sea an internal lake of Russia ...
  8. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 14 July 2016 10: 51
    +14
    Towards East Expansion
  9. Naval
    Naval 14 July 2016 10: 52
    +7
    Onshore anti-ship systems will not give NATO ships a chance, and they are well aware of this. Increasing activity is simply pressure on Russia and an attempt to drag it into the arms race, as the economy is our weak link.
  10. Vetal999
    Vetal999 14 July 2016 10: 55
    -2
    It is time to conduct exercises in the vicinity of the AI ​​and / or in the region of its financial interests. Let our sailors "sunbathe" on their beach.
  11. midivan
    midivan 14 July 2016 11: 02
    +4
    can we let a rumor go that a dozen tied dolphins escaped, and rummage in search of a target?
  12. sergey2017
    sergey2017 14 July 2016 11: 09
    +5
    For a long time you can forget the Montreux Convention of 1936! This Montreux convention was observed in the USSR (before the arrival of Gorbachev), then they respected and were afraid to stay in the Black Sea even for a day! It's time to teach or force our "partners" to order!
  13. Professor
    Professor 14 July 2016 11: 21
    +2
    That is, among NATO countries, only Romania, Turkey and Bulgaria can afford a permanent presence in the waters of the Black Sea.

    ... or any NATO country that raised the Turkish flag before entering the Dardanelles.
    1. gray smeet
      gray smeet 14 July 2016 11: 24
      +6
      Quote: Professor
      That is, among NATO countries, only Romania, Turkey and Bulgaria can afford a permanent presence in the waters of the Black Sea.

      ... or any NATO country that raised the Turkish flag before entering the Dardanelles.


      Imagine the British raising the Turkish flag on their destroyer ... laughing Israel is not in NATO, otherwise it would have presented another picture - an Israeli ship or submarine with a proudly developing Turkish flag, and would you hide the Israeli flag? .. wassat Cleverly you would deceive ....
      1. Professor
        Professor 14 July 2016 11: 26
        0
        Quote: gray smeet
        Imagine the British raising the Turkish flag on their destroyer ...

        Georgian can rise, and then the time of their stay in the Black Sea is unlimited. fellow
        1. weksha50
          weksha50 14 July 2016 11: 38
          +5
          Quote: Professor
          Georgian can rise, and then the time of their stay in the Black Sea is unlimited.



          Professor, not for swearing and arguing ...

          But what about the substitution of a flag by a ship? It looks like a fake passport-cover for the actions of a spy-reconnaissance-provocateur ...

          Or ... Let’s recall how Germany unleashed a war against Poland ... They defeated what’s there - some kind of radio post either in Poland or in Germany (I don’t remember already), left there the corpses of soldiers in Polish uniform and with documents .. .

          In general, this will already "pull" the provocation of the purest water ...

          PS Yesterday they talked about the Odessa OMU and the increase in the cadets of the Ukrainian VMU ... Then, it turns out that the 6th (or whatever) Amer fleet will fly to the Black Sea tomorrow, raise the flag of Ukraine, and here’s the Ukrainian Navy ... Easy the problem is solved, yes ???

          In general, something allows me to disagree with your theory ... Too dumb and arrogant ... Although ... You can expect anything from them ... hi
          1. Professor
            Professor 14 July 2016 11: 44
            -1
            Quote: weksha50
            But what about the substitution of a flag by a ship? It looks like a fake passport-cover for the actions of a spy-reconnaissance-provocateur ...

            But no way. Everything is legal. To increase the effect, you can change the name from Cook to Rustavelli.

            Quote: weksha50
            In general, this will already "pull" the provocation of the purest water ...

            Well? What will be the response? No more so if the flag will be the countries of NATO, and not Georgia.

            Quote: weksha50
            PS Yesterday they talked about the Odessa OMU and the increase in the cadets of the Ukrainian VMU ... Then, it turns out that the 6th (or whatever) Amer fleet will fly to the Black Sea tomorrow, raise the flag of Ukraine, and here’s the Ukrainian Navy ... Easy the problem is solved, yes ???

            In general, something allows me to disagree with your theory ... Too dumb and arrogant ... Although ... You can expect anything from them ...

            Let's not talk about arrogance.
            1. Dazdranagon
              Dazdranagon 14 July 2016 12: 01
              +2
              Quote: Professor
              Well? What will be the response?
              - an error in the exercises. "Onyx" went crazy, flew in the wrong direction ...
            2. An60
              An60 14 July 2016 15: 59
              +1
              Is it about Israeli law? Learn the law of the sea, restless.
          2. 33 Watcher
            33 Watcher 14 July 2016 14: 54
            0
            Quote: weksha50

            But what about the substitution of a flag by a ship?

            Yes, very easy! The invention of the Professor. laughing
            The calculation that you are too lazy to delve into the law of the sea ...
        2. 33 Watcher
          33 Watcher 14 July 2016 14: 52
          0
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: gray smeet
          Imagine the British raising the Turkish flag on their destroyer ...

          Georgian can rise, and then the time of their stay in the Black Sea is unlimited. fellow

          How long has Georgia been a member of NATO? Or I, what - missed?
          And by the flags - GUESTS, you also misinform people. Although "Jolly Roger" raise, nobody canceled the state ownership of the ship.
          1. Professor
            Professor 14 July 2016 15: 02
            0
            Quote: Observer 33
            How long has Georgia been a member of NATO? Or I, what - missed?
            And by the flags - GUESTS, you also misinform people. Although "Jolly Roger" raise, nobody canceled the state ownership of the ship.

            NATIONAL ACCESSORIES OF MARINE SHIP: - determined by the flags of the state under which it goes. So much for erotic dreams. wink

            Nationality of a ship in modern international law /

            However, the most interesting thing is regarding ships, not merchant ships. wink
            1. 33 Watcher
              33 Watcher 14 July 2016 15: 22
              0
              Quote: Professor
              NATIONAL ACCESSORIES OF MARINE SHIP: - determined by the flags of the state under which it goes. So much for erotic dreams.

              Again. Do not fool people with heads.
              1. Professor
                Professor 14 July 2016 19: 55
                +1
                Quote: Observer 33
                Again. Do not fool people with heads.

                Well? It's all? And I thought that you would now post to us an article from the international convention on how the nationality of a ship is determined. wink
                1. 33 Watcher
                  33 Watcher 15 July 2016 04: 49
                  +1
                  Quote: Professor
                  Quote: Observer 33
                  Again. Do not fool people with heads.

                  Well? It's all? And I thought that you would now post to us an article from the international convention on how the nationality of a ship is determined. wink

                  I’ll write you one phrase: "International Register". It's all. I don’t pay more attention to destructive provocateurs (in common people - trolls) ...
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 15 July 2016 11: 02
                    0
                    Quote: Observer 33
                    I’ll write you one phrase: "International Register". It's all. I don’t pay more attention to destructive provocateurs (in common people - trolls) ...

                    What? Are all warships registered in the "international registry"? that is, I went into the register, looked at the page of Russia and there the entire ship crew. all nuclear submarines, etc. Laughing out loud. fool
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 14 July 2016 13: 01
      -1
      Quote: Professor
      That is, among NATO countries, only Romania, Turkey and Bulgaria can afford a permanent presence in the waters of the Black Sea.

      ... or any NATO country that raised the Turkish flag before entering the Dardanelles.

      In my opinion, even without the doctrine of Montreux from 1914 to 1918, two Germans, "Goeben" and Breslau, rattled the nerves of Russian sailors on the Black Sea. Just do not say that the Germans handed them over to the Turks. They got them to the Turks after the First World War.
      http://wunderwafe.ru/Magazine/MK/1999_05/10.htm
    3. kotvov
      kotvov 14 July 2016 14: 12
      +1
      ..or any NATO country that raised the Turkish flag before entering the Dardanelles. ,,
      you want to say that you cannot determine which ship, whatever flag it is?
      This is ukra tell me, they will believe.
      1. Professor
        Professor 14 July 2016 14: 18
        -1
        Quote: kotvov
        you want to say that you cannot determine which ship, whatever flag it is?

        And no one will hide under what flag he was before entering the Dardanelles. The main thing with which flag he will enter the Black Sea.
        1. 33 Watcher
          33 Watcher 14 July 2016 14: 59
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: kotvov
          you want to say that you cannot determine which ship, whatever flag it is?

          And no one will hide under what flag he was before entering the Dardanelles. The main thing with which flag he will enter the Black Sea.

          For 21 days. Do not fool people with heads.
          And to distinguished forum users I’ll say this is nonsense, fairy tales are fabulous, nonsense are delusional, well, or Professor’s Wishlist, maybe his erotic dreams laughing
  14. BOB044
    BOB044 14 July 2016 11: 22
    +2
    [Quote]
    The agency recalls that "according to the Montreux Convention of 1936, the stay in the Black Sea of ​​warships of non-Black Sea powers is limited to a period of 21 days." That is, among NATO countries, only Romania, Turkey and Bulgaria can afford a permanent presence in the waters of the Black Sea. [/ QuoteA countries not included in this list. At the sight of the Bastions and Caliber. And jokes need to end with them.
    1. Yngvar
      Yngvar 14 July 2016 11: 44
      +1
      History shows that our "beloved partners" do not care deeply about conventions and laws. The only thing they understand well is when they are put in the "third pose of Anchar" and they start to beat them painfully! And therefore - apparently while they feel a certain strength behind them and are not afraid of opposition. Accordingly, we need to build up our naval potential in the Black Sea, and in the vastness of the World Ocean. It is also very promising to announce (for now) the start of construction of our bases in the region of Cuba, Alaska and others, bringing our "countermeasures" closer to their star-striped states.
  15. Army soldier2
    Army soldier2 14 July 2016 11: 22
    +3
    Quote: Bramb
    In the states, tenders have already passed in the 2013 year, who will camp where, where some schools in Crimea need to be repaired for the families of their sailors. They have already allocated money, purchased materials, began to count bonuses for salaries ... and then oppa! Bummer-s !!! It's a shame, yes.
    Well, the Khokhlov, who is in power, is insulting: they were promised millions more for transferring the Crimea to the states, and Petyune was even more so. It was not a pity to give them the Crimea: he was never Ukrainian and they did not consider him theirs.
    Here, from their anger, greed, meanness and shoot people in the Donbass.


    Could you tell me why the Americans promised in 2013 “Petyune”, then an ordinary deputy of the Verkhovna Rada, “big millions”?
    PS Poroshenko became president of 7 on June 2014, and Crimea became Russian on 18 on March 2014.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 14 July 2016 13: 23
      +1
      Quote: Army 2

      Could you tell me why the Americans promised in 2013 “Petyune”, then an ordinary deputy of the Verkhovna Rada, “big millions”?
      PS Poroshenko became president of 7 on June 2014, and Crimea became Russian on 18 on March 2014.

      They promised Yushchenko and Yanukovych. And an association in the EU. And membership in NATO. And Tymoshenko vomited everything on herself, she wanted to be in NATO and the EU. The truth under Yanukovych ended up in prison for seven years. Otherwise, everything is correct. This is a link to the ins and outs of Tymoshenko.
      http://fb.ru/article/139658/yuliya-timoshenko---biografiya-semya-i-politicheskay
      a-deyatelnost-ledi-yu
  16. cheburator
    cheburator 14 July 2016 11: 56
    +2
    I propose to answer adequately - to conduct exercises in the Gulf of Mexico! soldier
    1. faridg7
      faridg7 14 July 2016 13: 16
      0
      Quote: cheburator
      I propose to answer adequately - to conduct exercises in the Gulf of Mexico! soldier

      What for? so that they have all the signatures, samples of tactics and have the opportunity to miscalculate our actions in the event of a real conflict? is it not better to carefully study their actions in the Crimea, well and quietly drag your calculations on NATO ships, put enough funds for the simultaneous destruction of all the vessels and bases of NATO (preferably in non-special execution)
  17. MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 14 July 2016 14: 27
    0
    Carry out one supposedly "emergency" launch of the Bulava against NATO representatives in the Black Sea ... So they will immediately calm down, although they will stink strongly, but I think not for long ...
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 14 July 2016 16: 03
      0
      Launch the Bulava in your garden! The zealous owner at his courtyard will not shit! Missile boats and coastal protection systems will be enough to protect Russian interests throughout the Black Sea! And then, after combat use, you will have to cleanse the sea and coast from the western shit.
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  21. Thompson
    Thompson 14 July 2016 20: 03
    0
    And is this all a warning? more likely scolded slightly.