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Sanctions strengthened Russia, and the West achieved only moral superiority

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Sanctions strengthened Russia, and the West achieved only moral superiority


The migration crisis and the aggravation of relations with Russia have shown that Western leaders put some values ​​at the top of the foreign policy course, which, in their opinion, should be shared by their peoples. According to Steven Hedlund, the author of Svenska Dagbladet, this policy not only did not cause a destructive effect in Russia, but, on the contrary, strengthened and rallied the country.

The current migration crisis in Europe has also arisen due to the fact that politicians have taken practical steps in full confidence that citizens should be guided by certain values. According to Stefan Hedlund, a professor of eastern countries at Uppsala University, if there are discrepancies between what society considers most important and what society should consider as such, according to politicians, then serious problems begin.

As the author Svenska Dagbladet is sure, in the case of relations between Russia and the West, this danger becomes even clearer. Hedlund writes that back in 1985, a US diplomat, George Kennan, warned how dangerous it was to put values ​​at the head of foreign policy. The migration crisis has shown that even within Europe there are no values ​​in any general form and everyone wants to defend their national interests, therefore, in this vein, the Ukrainian conflict also needs to be considered.

“The fundamental difference between a conflict of values ​​and a conflict of interest is that conflicts of interest are resolved during negotiations. But the conflict of values, by definition, implies that one side is right, and the second is wrong, ”writes the Swedish expert.

In the case of Ukraine, continues Stefan Hedlund, Russia has always held the opinion that this is a conflict of interest, therefore it is necessary to meet and talk, and the West, on the contrary, considered it to be a value conflict, which Russia has no right to interfere in. This led Ukraine to war and devastation, and sanctions were imposed on Russia, which became for Western leaders "a way to feel their own moral superiority." However, in the end, the Kremlin did not make concessions, and sanctions, the author of the article suggests, will be canceled next year.



In the Swedish media, experts expressed the opinion that Russia's behavior had a devastating effect for the country. Stefan Hedlund believes this position is erroneous, since the last decade has not been a series of failures for Russia.

“The war in Georgia has stopped the expansion of NATO. I am quite sure that the war in Ukraine will lead to its collapse, and Russia will regain the leading role. The invasion of Syria saved Assad, and the Americans were forced to negotiate. And the sanctions strengthened the Russian regime, adding fuel to the fire of conspiracy theories about how the West wants to break Russia. In general, it is hard to believe that Putin and his people now see anything but success. So my final question is: what has the West achieved, with the exception of self-satisfied moral superiority? ”Concludes the author Svenska Dagbladet.

Stefan Hedlund

Original news InoTV:
https://russian.rt.com/inotv/2016-07-14/SD-Sankcii-ukrepili-Rossiyu-a
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  1. Monos
    Monos 15 July 2016 21: 34
    +69
    Oh, and what is it on the roof of the White House?
    1. Ased
      Ased 15 July 2016 21: 44
      +1
      Sanctions do not strengthen the Russian Federation! They work and it is worth considering how to avoid and stop them!
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 15 July 2016 21: 54
        +72
        Quote: ASed
        Sanctions do not strengthen the Russian Federation! They work and it is worth considering how to avoid and stop them!

        A colleague, from under the British flag, of course, more visible, wink But we live in Russia. hi
        1. Ased
          Ased 15 July 2016 22: 12
          .
          I am not from Britain. Probably our wise site perceives my provider just like that :))))
          1. Ased
            Ased 15 July 2016 22: 24
            .
            Quote: ASed
            I am not from Britain. Probably our wise site perceives my provider just like that :))))


            I am fundamentally interested in THIS minus - I am very far from UK !!!
            1. Sid.74
              Sid.74 16 July 2016 00: 01
              +14
              Comrades, lightning ..... belay This is something incredible ...

              Media: The Turkish General Staff announced the seizure of power in the country! Turkish leadership detained

              RIA: State television of Turkey stopped broadcasting
              Turkish TV channel Т24: Turkish Air Force helicopters opened fire on the headquarters of the MIT special services (National Intelligence Organization)

              Eyewitnesses: The military blocked the bridge over the Bosphorus. At Istanbul, Ataturk Airport in Istanbul, tanks are being pulled



              URGENTLY! Prime Minister of Turkey announced an attempted military coup in the country! Facebook and Twitter blocked in Ankara

              zerohedge: the first coup in a NATO member country



              Putin has an alibi .... he was with Kerry and Nuland all the time ... laughing


              Yesterday, the Greek secret services reported on the possibility of a military coup in Turkey - Zipras.

              The preacher Fethullah Gulen supported the coup - Al Alam, citing a source.

              Go...
              NATO is on alert.

              And to you, Erdoganische pagan said that you will not get off with tomatoes ....
              1. aksakal
                aksakal 16 July 2016 00: 13
                +8
                Quote: Sid.74
                This is something incredible ..

                The data have not yet been confirmed, but several sources have already reported - there is such a moment, I did not get off with tomatoes. As if now not to follow in his footsteps in the footsteps of Hussein and Amanita (in the first - indifferent, the second - sorry).
                If so, then all the same Putin should show generosity and spare the defeated idiot - such a step will only benefit him, there is no need to become like hyenas, voluptuously crying out "Wow!" in reprisals against a defeated enemy, least of all I would like to see Putin like them. I understand that the soul demands retribution for Peshkov and Pozinich, eternal glory to them, but this is how I think.
                1. aksakal
                  aksakal 16 July 2016 00: 21
                  +3
                  And Yanukovych is sorry! Just brought another set of linen to his room and demanded to release one bedside table! Get your hands off yanyk!
                  1. aksakal
                    aksakal 16 July 2016 00: 26
                    +3
                    And I don’t understand why the Turks do not carefully prepare such things? So why block the television? Why didn’t you record the ballet in advance? In a self-respecting country, there should always be strategic reserves of ballets, well, just in case)))
                    1. sgazeev
                      sgazeev 16 July 2016 06: 08
                      +2
                      Quote: aksakal
                      And I don’t understand why the Turks do not carefully prepare such things? So why block the television? Why didn’t you record the ballet in advance? In a self-respecting country, there should always be strategic reserves of ballets, well, just in case)))

                      Striped ears are far from ballet, they perceive only musicals. The customers are known, of which I have no doubt. "Democracy" is going to Turkey. We are waiting for the message about sending Marines to guard the US diplomatic mission, the main thing is to gain a foothold.
                2. Uralets
                  Uralets 16 July 2016 00: 23
                  +8
                  And not the fact that Putin is involved. Erdogan also did not suit NATO members very much - teeth are grinning for Americans and the EU. Then even decided to make peace with Putin .. In addition, NATO will have more influence there. Nothing is excluded.
                  1. Asadullah
                    Asadullah 16 July 2016 01: 25
                    +1
                    In addition, NATO will have more influence there.


                    Yah!? And it seemed to me that Turkey had an influence on NATO, and it was precisely this influence that it used and traded.
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                4. iliitchitch
                  iliitchitch 16 July 2016 02: 22
                  +5
                  Quote: aksakal
                  If so, then Putin should show generosity and spare the defeated idiot


                  I can’t imagine Putin jumping on his bones, is he a savage or something? I represent Parashenko-Erdogan, but Putin does not. Wang said for a long time - the Ottomans on x .. And she was not mistaken, as far as I remember. Well, there were Poles, there were Turks, and they are all GREAT, which is characteristic, according to their concepts. Ponte on the seas measured, starting from Pontus of Evskssinsky and ending with the Baltic, did not look beyond the Urals, shallow-swimming. What, measured ponty?
                  And we are just Russia, you won’t move. They tried to burn here, they all had chances, but we did not fail. Well, now debt is red, you’ll catch. The Darkest has a good memory, and our people are not forgetful, for an eye both are not a topic, and we will tear out the third if there is one; got, fret freaks.
              2. Monos
                Monos 16 July 2016 00: 22
                +11
                Ha ha ha ... How nice to be a seer.

                Monos  30 June 2016 08: 49 | Cunning and love. What does Erdogan want?

                It seems to me that Erdoогan’s sudden confession of his guilt and an apology for the downed SU-24 are not connected with the empty beaches of Antalya. The Sultan specifically became ill.

                Judge for yourself: the Americans did not accept his irresponsible position on the Kurds and turned their backs on him (and in general - they have no time for Turkey now. They have enough of their own problems.); Europe got tired of enduring his rudeness and outright blackmail and they took a tough position; all neighbors, in general, are listed as enemies; Putin said that the current leadership of Turkey will not get off with tomatoes alone (and the whole world is already used to taking the words of GDP seriously). Add to this the Kurds, the opposition and the grumbling of the military who have been pushed aside. In addition, tame Turkoman fighters, ISIS and Al-Nusra are crushing everything and cheap contraband oil runs out. What's left? “The king is naked!” No friends, no allies, no money. And in the East, the weak are killed.

                It seems Erdogan specifically became hot. Putin does not throw words into the wind. Seven months is enough time to prepare for a retaliation operation. For example, the hands of the Kurds or the same military. So he ran to Putin to kiss his hands.

                I see it this way.


                Everything, the startup is ready! I will vang! I’ll paddle with a shovel!
                1. Asadullah
                  Asadullah 16 July 2016 01: 39
                  +2
                  How nice to be a seer


                  Well, you are not the only one, do not flatter yourself. laughing Moreover, the possibilities of a direct military coup were also indicated. In general, these are not predictions, but a list of options in certain cases. (I need to look at how many minuses they put for me laughing )

                  It’s more interesting to figure out what is happening. The fact is that Erdogan suppressed political activity by special services. And now it’s important to know which units and military leaders rebelled. Political police are scattered throughout the country, near Istanbul, there are selected Third Army Corps 52nd Brigade, 66 mechanized brigade anti-terror specialists. The most interesting thing is that they are directly subordinate to the operational command of NATO. Plus the first field army. And I do not like it. It is more important to know what is happening in Ankara. If anyone is in the know, let me know, because I do not have time.
              3. Lelek
                Lelek 16 July 2016 00: 23
                +1
                Quote: Sid.74
                This is something incredible ...


                The news is astounding, but not entirely reliable. (cry)
                1. Sid.74
                  Sid.74 16 July 2016 00: 32
                  +1
                  Quote: Lelek
                  The news is amazing, but not quite reliable.

                  Quote: Alexej
                  There is still little information.


                  Media: Curfew announced throughout Turkey

                  Ankara residents express their support for the military

                  Media: The head of the Turkish General Staff Hulusi Akar was taken hostage in the office in Ankara

                  Published a video from Turkey during a military rebellion



                  Iran fighters to the Turkish border

                  Army of neighboring Greece brought to alert

                  Turkish television reported the introduction of martial law in the country

                  Turkey is now under the control of the Peace Council, which will ensure the safety of the population. It is reported RIA Novosti with reference to the Turkish TV.

                  Earlier, the media reported that the state TV of Turkey makes statements about the situation in the country under the dictation of the military.

                  The media reported on the arrival of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan at Ataturk International Airport in Istanbul. This transmits TASS.

                  Aeroflot deploys flight from Moscow to Istanbul.

                  The resorts in Turkey are about 1000 Russian citizens.

                  Erdogan: "The coup was organized by the followers of F. Gulen"

                  Washington's ears are already visible ...

                  Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan called on the Turkish people to take to the streets and protect democracy. Reports about it RIA News.
                  He aired from the phone ... laughing

                  Margarita Simonyan
                  According to the old Russian tradition, Erdogan is expected in Rostov. There are raki, beer, Leberdon, again, there are many Armenians. There is something to talk about.
                  laughing
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 16 July 2016 00: 41
                    +8
                    Quote: Sid.74
                    The resorts in Turkey are about 1000 Russian citizens.

                    Yes, and to hell with them. Let them sit there, belly warm, spit.
                    1. Sid.74
                      Sid.74 16 July 2016 00: 51
                      +1
                      So the obedient sheep of Erdogan crawled out on Taksim ....


                      A powerful explosion occurred in Ankara. This is the correspondent of RIA Novosti.

                      Something the people are not very eager to defend the “democracy” of Erdogan. He fights with the military.



                      Ohhhhhhhh ...
                      The Turkish army is redeploying troops from the north of Iraq to Turkey. The PKK promised not to touch the Turkish military.

                      - I am alive, I am legitimate! laughing


                      Wow ha ha ...


                      Merkel, an old bitch, rejected Recep from entering Germany. laughing

                      Military helicopters open fire on the presidential quarter in Ankara - Hurriyet
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 16 July 2016 01: 12
                        +9
                        Quote: Sid.74
                        Merkel, an old bitch, rejected Recep from entering Germany.

                        Rostov, only Rostov lol
                        Media: Erdogan sought asylum in Germany
                      2. iliitchitch
                        iliitchitch 16 July 2016 03: 22
                        +2
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Rostov, only Rostov


                        Well, good for now. Personally, I’m in parallel, who will start to beat someone there. Tourists? Government allowed? Sane person in Russia (USSR) ever believed in government? What about Russia? If instead of a head a piece of an ass, then this is incurable, they warned. Further, in accordance with the theory of Darwin, no one canceled the Darwin Prize, they went brainless. Come on, come on, EMERCOM will strain and win.
                        We have our own tourist here, the straight joker is impenetrable. Cottages in Malakhovka are waiting for guests. One strategist (Paulus) did not seem to complain. Although this one did not lie close. Stand, no? In any case, the Turks are enemies, we must remember this. And the control over the straits is ours, not in vain for the Crimea and Tartus have climbed into the Sea of ​​Marmara we will drive any pelvis and we shall lay humanely aground. And if someone is dissatisfied, then Istanbul can become Constantinople again, this is really quite. And why - the good fate of the forehead shines - to teach the theory of tomatoes to future dictators. African, for example.
                      3. Makarov
                        Makarov 16 July 2016 01: 57
                        +1
                        As for me, it’s not the fact of an attempted coup that is curious, but a few things: the speed of reaction to the situation, the NATO statement (main base) and the actions of the media ... and most importantly, where Erdik himself is looking for the guilty - in Pennsylvania .... curious
                      4. Paranoid50
                        Paranoid50 16 July 2016 02: 34
                        +3
                        Quote: Sid.74
                        Merkel, an old bitch, rejected Recep from entering Germany.

                        What a pity they could have succeeded ...
                  2. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 16 July 2016 01: 22
                    +1
                    Erdogan dumps in Germany, the one that Rostov is resting - he can’t stand two muzzle turns.
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 16 July 2016 01: 31
                      +1
                      Quote: Vadim237
                      Erdogan dumps in Germany

                      Germany refused to Erdogan! Rostov and Rostov again laughing
                      Baku, it’s good to sleep, why are they yelling there.
                      https://www.periscope.tv/w/1YqJDbWdbgoKV
                  3. sgazeev
                    sgazeev 16 July 2016 06: 16
                    +1
                    In the resorts of Turkey there are about 1000 Russian citizens. The pofigists did not heed the advice of Satanovsky. recourse
              4. Alexei
                Alexei 16 July 2016 00: 24
                +1
                Quote: Sid.74
                zerohedge: the first coup in a NATO member country

                There is still little information. It is not yet clear how to react to this. I don’t know exactly what exactly contributed to the unrest, the last-minute turn of Erdagan towards Russia or vice versa?
                1. aksakal
                  aksakal 16 July 2016 00: 58
                  +4
                  Quote: Alexej
                  It is not yet clear how to react to this.

                  - No way, let the corpse of the enemy peacefully swim past))))
              5. Hon
                Hon 16 July 2016 08: 49
                +1
                And do you also see the Kremlin’s hand?
            2. dauria
              dauria 16 July 2016 00: 01
              -3

              I am fundamentally interested in this minus


              Well, you were instructed on the disadvantages that "They work and you should think about how to avoid and stop them!" Probably everyone thinks that our government needs to be kicked in order to develop its production. Just why a kick, and why the West? By the way, can you impose order in the country without sanctions? After all, it turns out funny.

              Well, "avoid and stop" is necessary, and this is work to split the unity of the West in indulging the interests of the United States - the concern of both Lavrov and Putin. It is interesting how the people rejoice at Russia's isolation - after all, this plays into the hands of the United States. request
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              3. kvarfax
                kvarfax 16 July 2016 00: 38
                +2
                You ask why kick? Maybe because of the kick it works better. Alas, this is so.
                And given the degeneration of ideological patriots, those who were ready to plow for their homeland = Russia and plow like a damn, it was sooo little.
                Yes, and our employees, at all levels. Something is not very tense usually. And of course, everyone has significant excuses. Either the salary is too low, the superiors find fault, the subordinates, etc.
                The result is important: no one tries to do anything. Why should it be different in government? One thing I can say. If they did NOT work there, then I think we did not have either "Caliber" or so many cars on the roads, including domestic ones.
                So they are doing something. And I have never seen the concept of "done enough" among the "subordinates". After all, give everyone a salary of 500k rubles. A year will pass and again will be missed!
            3. Stas57
              Stas57 16 July 2016 00: 34
              +1
              Guys, the bloody Putin reached out - OVERTAKE Erdogan, and why are you silent!
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 16 July 2016 00: 42
                +1
                Quote: Stas57
                - OVERPLOAD Erdogan, and why are you silent!

                Okay, we are silent, the Sait’s administration will wake up and here, who really wonders wassat
            4. korvin1976
              korvin1976 16 July 2016 10: 28
              +1
              Less is not because you are from the UK or under their flag, but for what you wrote.
              By the way, the minus is not mine, I could have slapped it for the same thing, but you already have enough of them there
            5. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak 16 July 2016 13: 17
              0
              Quote: ASed
              THIS minus is fundamentally interesting - I am very far from the UK

              I doubt very much! Otherwise, in the profile, it would indicate its approximate coordinates. :)
          2. Igor V
            Igor V 15 July 2016 22: 28
            +5
            Quote: ASed
            I am not from Britain. Probably our wise site perceives my provider just like that :))))

            But it coincided so well!
            1. Inok10
              Inok10 15 July 2016 23: 42
              +6
              Quote: Igor V
              But it coincided so well!

              ... definitely ... and what kind of moral superiority has the West achieved there ?! ... over whom? ... and, here, Mr. cartoonist had to be ruled, he was very mistaken, I speak as a resident of the Kaliningrad province ... usually he has very wonderful drawings, but not this one ... hi
              1. Alexei
                Alexei 16 July 2016 01: 01
                0
                Quote: Inok10
                He has wonderful drawings, but not this one ..

                It is worth noting that there is no tornado in Turkey.
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            3. Ased
              Ased 15 July 2016 23: 58
              -3
              Quote: Igor V
              Quote: ASed
              I am not from Britain. Probably our wise site perceives my provider just like that :))))

              But it coincided so well!


              Found something to match! I do not respect UK ...
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            4. Ased
              Ased 16 July 2016 00: 40
              -1
              Quote: Igor V
              Quote: ASed
              I am not from Britain. Probably our wise site perceives my provider just like that :))))

              But it coincided so well!

              Figo coincided! Why didn’t it coincide with Monte Carlo? ...
          3. Ased
            Ased 15 July 2016 23: 31
            -1
            Quote: ASed
            I am not from Britain. Probably our wise site perceives my provider just like that :))))

            + 6 / -6 go nuts! that is, 6 purely believes me, 6 not? :))) People do not disgrace.

            ps administrators ip is visible?
            1. alexander 2
              alexander 2 16 July 2016 00: 06
              0
              And then faith. Pros and cons put for statements.
        2. armata37
          armata37 15 July 2016 23: 08
          0
          Oh, now far from home ... I would send you a photo of my cellar. The beauty!
        3. although
          although 15 July 2016 23: 57
          0
          Exactly! I, like the mess at 14 started, got stewed with stew, so far only half have been eaten!
        4. gavrosh.ru
          gavrosh.ru 16 July 2016 02: 53
          0
          photo class !!! current hare secrets that Russian instagram spread soldier in vain is it a boy?
          or then put the whole basement and the address (if not greedy) wassat
        5. Hon
          Hon 16 July 2016 08: 48
          0
          Well, if you live only on the toilet, then yes. And if you really look at the situation? The budget deficit has grown, in the economy a recession. At the same time, the economies of the EU and the US have shown good growth.
          They talk a lot about the losses of the EU economy from sanctions, but they somehow keep silent about the fact that Russian gas for the EU has fallen in price by an average of $ 150 per thousand cubic meters, per year the EU consumes 160-140 billion cubic meters of Russian gas, it’s not difficult to calculate their savings now by our gas.
      2. Monos
        Monos 15 July 2016 21: 58
        +26
        Quote: ASed
        Sanctions do not strengthen the Russian Federation! They work and it is worth considering how to avoid and stop them!


        Nonsense! It is impossible to avoid them, since Russia is standing in the throat of the West with a bone. You can stop them only by letting yourself beat, surrendering and licking the Kozloids into the anus.

        Do you offer this?

        No, really! I now propose to benefit from this. And I propose to lick ourselves into the anus for any hoopoes from the Melkobodansky island of fools.
        1. Ased
          Ased 15 July 2016 22: 07
          -7
          Quote: Monos
          Quote: ASed
          Sanctions do not strengthen the Russian Federation! They work and it is worth considering how to avoid and stop them!


          Nonsense! It is impossible to avoid them, since Russia is standing in the throat of the West with a bone. You can stop them only by letting yourself beat, surrendering and licking the Kozloids into the anus.

          Do you offer this?


          In three lines I will not describe it.
          Our state-owned companies counteract sanctions through economic means, but unfortunately I have to give up their positions.
          1. unsinkable
            unsinkable 15 July 2016 22: 46
            +3
            Quote: ASed
            but unfortunately I have to give up positions.

            Mr. expert self-taught, I am not a poet, but I will say to all experts in verse: * You went on .... in small steps * .This is to all liberals, provocateurs, all-out propagators, unfortunate experts and cowards. negative
          2. dauria
            dauria 16 July 2016 11: 15
            +2
            Our state-owned companies counteract sanctions through economic means, but unfortunately I have to give up their positions.


            Yes, do not work. You are in vain. There are more of those who have blinded or screwed up their eyes specifically here. And the real-moneyless offices and unemployment in our city in Nizhny Novgorod are already felt in the guts of many neighbors. For half a year, everything became more serious than it was.
      3. ARES623
        ARES623 15 July 2016 22: 05
        +10
        Quote: ASed
        Sanctions do not strengthen the Russian Federation! They work and it is worth considering how to avoid and stop them!

        Sanctions do not strengthen the liberals, to whom the foie gras are more expensive than national sovereignty. And instead of thinking, you just need to work yourself and make those who parasitize in the financial and real estate markets work. And you need to look at other loafers (SHOW business, multi-stage retail, etc.). Essentially the article:
        Does the West consider the conflict with Russia valuable? What pharisaism ?! Throughout the thousand years of Russian statehood, Western states have sought to conquer Russia solely for the sake of possessing natural wealth. And the main value of the West is the dominance of racist and Nazi ideology, which divides humanity into superhuman, which means the Anglo-Saxons, and subhuman, i.e. other. A dozen scumbags-artists of the French were shot, the whole West stood on its hind legs, making an universal tragedy out of this phenomenon. But about the deaths of millions of citizens of North Africa, the Middle East, Ukraine, Russia, Southeast Asia, the European Nazis have no worries. Nazism was not killed in 1945, it is alive and thriving, thanks to the West.
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 16 July 2016 01: 10
          +4
          Quote: ARES623
          But about the deaths of millions of citizens of North Africa, the Middle East, Ukraine, Russia, Southeast Asia, the European Nazis have no worries. Nazism was not killed in 1945, it is alive and thriving, thanks to the West.

          - He ceased to be called Nazism, began to be called Eurocentrism. For me, it doesn’t matter what it’s called, even if it’s called a pot, but you have to beat your face for it so that you don’t think that Europe is the navel of the earth.
      4. Altona
        Altona 15 July 2016 22: 30
        +1
        Quote: ASed
        Sanctions do not strengthen the Russian Federation! They work and it is worth considering how to avoid and stop them!

        ------------------------
        Where do you get these? Have you finished grade 4? Congratulations on graduating from elementary school.
      5. Shaber
        Shaber 15 July 2016 22: 37
        -2
        What are you doing?
      6. Shaber
        Shaber 15 July 2016 22: 37
        +2
        What are you? On the example of my own region, I’ll say that, for example, so much money was poured into agriculture, and not without return, which is not unimportant!
      7. VECHESLAVIAN
        VECHESLAVIAN 15 July 2016 22: 39
        +1
        "The sanctions have strengthened Russia, and the West has achieved only A-moral superiority" Look above ... bolt !!! Pro-brazen-saxon you are our homebrew Brexit.
      8. Ased
        Ased 15 July 2016 22: 42
        -9
        Quote: ASed
        Sanctions do not strengthen the Russian Federation! They work and it is worth considering how to avoid and stop them!


        Sanctions only strengthen the Russian Federation! Let's think how to aggravate them!
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        4. krot
          krot 16 July 2016 10: 05
          +1
          Quote: ASed
          Sanctions do not strengthen the Russian Federation! They work and it is worth considering how to avoid and stop them!

          Sanctions only strengthen the Russian Federation! Let's think how to aggravate them!
          Are you idiotic !? In my opinion, your provider correctly perceived the site ..
      9. Igor V
        Igor V 15 July 2016 22: 44
        +3
        It is possible to end the sanctions only by ending "Western civilization." There were sanctions in the 20s, there were sanctions in the 30s, there were sanctions after the Fulton speech, there were sanctions after the 79th, during the NEP, during the NEP frenzy, the zits-chairman was always sitting, why am I? So sanctions are a normal state (political confrontation) in our relations. So it is possible to "stop", but I would like to do it peacefully.
      10. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 15 July 2016 23: 22
        0
        Quote: ASed
        Sanctions do not strengthen the Russian Federation! They work and it is worth considering how to avoid and stop them!


        They put a bolt higher in the photo, the thread can’t be taken apart, but I hope that the left one is put on the roof. The cancellation of your sanctions is beneficial only to our currency speculators and your peyzans (well, let those hard workers grunt as they can), so ask your owners not to cancel the sanctions, otherwise we will introduce a law on canceling the permission to cancel sanctions. And with our monetarists, we ourselves somehow, with God's help, will figure it out. Put your speculative loans in your w ..
        Has this headlund ever left the office, except for a pee? I wish I went to Kronstadt or to Peter. Divorced here analysts-scholars in the vastness of permissiveness.
      11. Ased
        Ased 15 July 2016 23: 46
        -1
        Quote: ASed
        Sanctions do not strengthen the Russian Federation! They work and it is worth considering how to avoid and stop them!


        I wrote the opposite at the very bottom - they also have a minus !!!! :)))))
        1. iliitchitch
          iliitchitch 16 July 2016 00: 24
          +2
          Quote: ASed
          I wrote the opposite at the very bottom - they also have a minus !!!! :)))))


          Do not get so excited, colleague, + -, but what's the difference, why chase something? There are a lot of wild herd monkeys, who are scrapped not only to read a big article, but even the comments look green-red in color, after which, in terms of quantity, go ahead, so that "like everyone else." If there were no such rams in Russia, we would have torn them all up to begin with, after which we ourselves, in 25 years, would become the same rams as America is today. wassat However, the philosophy.
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        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 16 July 2016 00: 34
          0
          Quote: Sid.74
          NATO is on alert.

          But what does NATO have to do with it?
          Zhenya, where Erdogan, sho for crap vosche since morning laughing
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 16 July 2016 00: 41
            +7
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Zhenya, where Erdogan, sho for crap vosche since morning

            Nobody knows ... went on the air through the phone ... a scrapper is encrypted ...


            laughing
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 16 July 2016 00: 59
              0
              Quote: Sid.74
              . encrypted scam ...

              So the power is in Turkey who now belongs ??? I don’t need her, I just ask.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 16 July 2016 01: 29
                +3
                The military declares that to them.
                Quote: Sid.74
                .. is encrypted by the scumbag ...

                Erdogan from under the hatch broadcasts that to him.
                The Association of Russian Tour Operators says that everything is calm, everything is through, the whole country is a continuous resort.
                But Zakharova mumbles something about emergency telephones for vacationers.
              2. Vadim237
                Vadim237 16 July 2016 01: 32
                0
                Probably the generals.
            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 16 July 2016 01: 24
              +1
              This is what Russian "tourists" are doing - after a long absence from the resorts.
      14. BastaKarapuzik And
        BastaKarapuzik And 16 July 2016 00: 06
        +3
        It depends on what sanctions. For example, they limited access to credit resources, in the short term this puts pressure on the exchange rate, and in the long term, in my opinion, more advantages are obtained.
        Ukraine refused to supply engines for frigates, of course, because a spoon for dinner is good, but in the end, you see, they will establish production under the Russian flag.
        Banned the supply of equipment for the oil industry? It’s also bad, international cooperation is often effective, but learning to do without these supplies is minus one lever of pressure.
        And so on.
      15. Homo
        Homo 16 July 2016 00: 22
        -1
        Quote: ASed
        They work and it is worth considering how to avoid and stop them!

        First - against whom are they working?
        Second - let them think there how to avoid and stop!
        Thirdly, those who have more problems are the first to speak about the end of the sanctions! hi
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    3. Gray brother
      Gray brother 15 July 2016 21: 57
      +6
      Quote: Monos
      Oh, and what is it on the roof of the White House?

      They still did not open the piano. laughing
    4. Blondy
      Blondy 15 July 2016 22: 21
      +5
      Well, maybe in the west they know better, but I still don’t understand the morality in which we surpassed us, at least in words.
      1. Altona
        Altona 15 July 2016 22: 33
        +4
        Quote: Blondy
        Well, maybe in the west they know better, but I still don’t understand the morality in which we surpassed us, at least in words.

        ----------------------
        So do I. I generally believe that men should date women. This somehow adds moral superiority to both men and women.
      2. ARES623
        ARES623 15 July 2016 22: 34
        +5
        Quote: Blondy
        Well, maybe in the west they know better, but I still don’t understand the morality in which we surpassed us, at least in words.

        They believe it. Our views on life do not coincide, so we will not understand each other, and for a long time. For a thousand years we could not agree, and there are no prerequisites for this today. Their main paradigm is the superiority of some over others and the natural management of the former by the latter. We have equality of rights and respect for sovereignty. How can we understand each other? The West is incapable of negotiating, because over the past 10-15 centuries, they have never agreed with neighboring civilizations, only the conquest and destruction of a foreign population. So they believe in their superiority. Until the Arabs "bend" them and destroy them, like the barbarians of the Roman Empire did in their time.
    5. Snake AAA
      Snake AAA 15 July 2016 22: 40
      +9
      I’m here not far from Nice, on a business trip, talked with an elderly Frenchwoman, after today's events, she was so enthusiastic about Russia and cursed the euro leadership and Hollande lack of talent, so you don’t need to listen to Western journalists, ordinary Europeans for Russia !!!!
      1. Ased
        Ased 15 July 2016 22: 51
        -2
        To all who minus - YOU ARE A pancake!

        PS anyway, I'm not from the UK! :)
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        1. madjik
          madjik 15 July 2016 23: 14
          -1
          I CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU PUBLIC! where do you live? in Moscow? sanctions -quimpions and somehow violet! are you being fought with us there are no more problems? urkaina turkey syria france and what? from you personally a fighter what is being decided? be ready! always ready!
      3. ARES623
        ARES623 15 July 2016 23: 05
        +1
        Quote: Serpent AAA
        the leadership has cursed the euro and Holland is mediocre, so there is no need to listen to Western journalists, ordinary Europeans for Russia !!!!

        But they choose the Olandov, Merkel, Obama and others. Words of admiration are not expensive, actions are an indicator ..
        1. alexander 2
          alexander 2 16 July 2016 00: 20
          +1
          Are you sure you choose? Suspiciously, there are many leaders of countries that literally pray for America. Despite the fact that the people are much skeptical.
    6. rpek32
      rpek32 16 July 2016 01: 04
      -1
      Quote: Monos
      Oh, and what is it on the roof of the White House?

      on some demotivators you will not go far.
  2. Irokez
    Irokez 15 July 2016 21: 35
    +10
    Damn what nonsense. What a moral superiority. Give wishful thinking. And the sanctions only strengthened our market, which was littered with foreign goods, and now they have begun to make their own and raise the economy.
    Another 1-2 years of sanctions and it would be nice if we got stronger.
    1. stas
      stas 15 July 2016 22: 13
      +4
      And who is the author Stefan Hedlund.

      Ever since the time of Hunchback, as soon as Western zhurnalyugi began to praise us, this does not mean so. They praised Hunchback and many believed this until the USSR collapsed.

      Evaluation of corrupt journalists is small, especially Western.

      I think it would be good if not only the president and our weapons were good.
      I wish the government with the chairman, salaries and pensions, medicine and education were also good.
      And do not trust Western journalists, there are decent, but there are few of them that everyone knows.
      What kind of fruit is this?
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 15 July 2016 22: 27
        +10
        Quote: stas
        And who is the author Stefan Hedlund.

        Stefan Peter Hedlund (Swede. Stefan Peter Hedlund, born December 20, 1953) - Swedish researcher, specialist in Russia. Professor at Uppsala University (since 1990). Graduated from Lund University (Bachelor of Economics, 1976). He received a master's degree in economics from the University of California at Santa Barbara in 1977. Hedlund studied economics with a specialization in collective agriculture, he began his research activities from African countries, in particular Tanzania, but then moved to the USSR and Russia. He received a Ph.D. in economics from the University of Lund in 1983, diss. in Soviet agriculture. Since 1978, there is an employee of the Faculty of Economics, lecturer, since 1985 assistant professor, in 1988-90 partner professor. Since 1984, assistant professor, since 1985 partner professor, since 1990 full professor of Sovietology and East European studies , at the same time since 2010, research director of the Uppsala Center for Russian and Eurasian Studies at Uppsala University. He first visited Moscow under Brezhnev, and then continued to be there several times. He speaks Russian. In 2013, he noted that during street protests during the “snow revolution” 2011-2, in Moscow and St. Petersburg, the demand of the protesters was a regime change. In an interview in early 2015, Hedlund about the current confrontation between Russia and the West notes that in Moscow people “show their concern about what is happening. Many are inclined to blame the West for the events, few are the Russian authorities. ”In his 2010 book, he notes the ever-increasing similarities of modern Russia to Muscovy: autocracy, fuzzy property rights, serving nobles, depending on the good will of the ruler, xenophobia.
        Author of about 20 books and 200 articles. winked
        1. stas
          stas 15 July 2016 23: 07
          0
          But in fact the author is a Russophobe, that our gentlemen, comrade patriots, began to rush zealously who critically took his opus.

          Why does the enemy praise, and for patriots this is a balm on ... u.
  3. izya top
    izya top 15 July 2016 21: 35
    +4
    and in what way is this "moral superiority" expressed? what I did not understand request
    1. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 15 July 2016 22: 18
      0
      Quote: izya top
      and in what way is this "moral superiority" expressed? i didn't understand

      How in what? But is there really an obsessive bugger propaganda in Russia in the form of various LGBT parades? That's it! smile
      PS I still can't get used to the fact that the editor automatically replaces the word "g.u" with "bugger". In my opinion, the second word is much more offensive laughing
    2. evil partisan
      evil partisan 15 July 2016 22: 36
      +1
      Quote: izya top
      and in what way is this "moral superiority" expressed? i didn't understand

      In that he can easily take 1 grams of vodka on his chest in 700 sitting yes and you are only 200 sad . Here are all things request .
      Pigive, Isenka! drinks
    3. stas
      stas 15 July 2016 23: 09
      -1
      When you find the answer to the first question, the second answer will become clear.
  4. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 15 July 2016 21: 39
    0
    Svenska Dagbladet ...
    Me, on Friday evening ... with cognac and various home-made "goodies", I am languidly interested in "reading matter" (at best) the opinion of "Vestnik Mordovii" and "Novosti Yugra". I am too lazy to understand the intricacies of the opinions of imported political newspapers .. Moreover, I have never read them and do not intend to ... Choice: cognac or "media analysis" ?! Who, with me ?! wink
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 15 July 2016 21: 56
      +2
      ALABAY45 hi (7) RU Today, 21:39 PM
      Svenska Dagbladet ...
      Me, on Friday evening ... with cognac and various home-made "goodies", I am languidly interested in "reading matter" (at best) the opinion of "Vestnik Mordovii" and "News of Yugra". I am too lazy to understand the intricacies of the opinions of imported political newspapers .. Moreover, I have never read them and do not intend to ... Choice: cognac or "media analysis" ?! Who, with me ?! wink

      Personally, yes! You can just beer repeat (Although there were some differences in the temporary continuum with you) laughingHere is the enemy, minus slammed to quarrel. So our opinion is not indifferent drinks
      1. ALABAY45
        ALABAY45 15 July 2016 22: 05
        -1
        "... in the time continuum ..."
        Translate! drinks ("Moscow, does not believe in tears") Minus ?! Pump ... yes Afraid, petty scoundrels ...
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 15 July 2016 22: 16
          +2
          ALABAY45 hi (7) RU Today, 22: 05 ↑ New
          "... in the time continuum ..."
          Translate! drinks ("Moscow, does not believe in tears")
          In the sense before. About three months ago "barked" laughingBut the cons are temporary. Already there are none. Aliluya! fellow
        2. evil partisan
          evil partisan 15 July 2016 22: 42
          -2
          Quote: ALABAY45
          Afraid, petty scoundrels ...

          Let those whose conscience is not clear be afraid soldier ... Return the asphalt to the people, the wickedness am And finally light candles in the church for the rest of the souls of the moose you slaughtered. Well, collect the package repeat . And then my patience ends sad ...
          Hello, villain of a regional scale! drinks
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  5. sir_obs
    sir_obs 15 July 2016 21: 40
    +6
    The author began to understand something, to guess something, but he continues to be held captive by Western propaganda regarding some regimes that destroy something there.
    Or afraid to openly admit Western wrong, all in hints ... about moral satisfaction there. Where does morality come from in the West?

    adding fuel to the fire conspiracy theory about how the West wants to break Russia


    Is he reading a story? Touching this topic is that it was Putin who invented this horror story for the people. They want to destroy Russia for centuries, and they expose it with Putin’s propaganda.
    1. Irokez
      Irokez 15 July 2016 21: 46
      +2
      Quote: sir_obs
      Where does morality come from in the West?

      Well, you’re right in the top 10.
  6. Igor V
    Igor V 15 July 2016 21: 41
    0
    "... smug moral superiority."
    The moral is different and your superiority Russia simply did not notice, only complacency.
  7. newcomer
    newcomer 15 July 2016 21: 42
    +3
    I don’t think that the West received at least some superiority. their position is designated as the complete collapse of their desires to make an empire of Western civilization, and the rest of the world a servant. and Russia cut off all their dreams.
  8. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 15 July 2016 21: 43
    +3
    I agree! They feel moral superiority. After all, they imposed sanctions on us. And the fact that we POSED on their sanctions is already the details for them until they understand that they have driven themselves into the opa.
    1. Irokez
      Irokez 15 July 2016 21: 49
      +2
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      After all, they imposed sanctions on us.

      Rather, they put on pants from US. In common people - crap.
  9. vikmar64
    vikmar64 15 July 2016 21: 44
    +3
    Moral superiority? !!
    I would call it moral self-gratificationrather than superiority.
    1. unsinkable
      unsinkable 15 July 2016 22: 54
      +1
      Quote: vikmar64
      I would call it moral self-satisfaction,

      Let's be honest, colleague. It's a moral masturbation.
  10. sever.56
    sever.56 15 July 2016 21: 45
    +12
    https://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/122/kwos699.png

    Here is the opinion of a person regarding Ukraine and what it is without Russia.
    It can be hard said, but essentially true.
    It was into an African country, and one of the worst, that scoundrels turned Ukraine, thinking only about their pocket and shamelessly robbing everyone from top to bottom, sulking the demoniac crowd with nationalist slogans such as "Ukraine ponaduse" and wailing with snot on a thick muzzle swollen from drunkenness "Puppy vmerlo" ...
  11. Berkut24
    Berkut24 15 July 2016 21: 45
    +2
    Edronat ... Such changes in the world that we are experiencing now occur in the world once every 500 years. It seems that our grandchildren will not know what European civilization is and will not believe that there was something big and terrible on the territory of America. And what foreign language will they learn at school?
    1. Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich
      Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich 16 July 2016 00: 19
      0
      If they do not change the education system, then - Russian!
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 16 July 2016 01: 58
      +2
      Quote: Berkut24
      Such changes in the world as we are experiencing now occur in the world once every 500 years.

      Judging by the news, they happen once a day, here it is ...
  12. PValery53
    PValery53 15 July 2016 21: 54
    +1
    Moral superiority is when sanctions were imposed, and these sanctions achieved their goals. And what did the West "get" from these sanctions in reality? - Huge losses in business, lack of our support in all world affairs. And there is no point in talking about achieving their political goals with sanctions, a complete rollback. Short-sighted politicians in the West, that's all. We imagined ourselves telling Russia what and how. Isn't it funny?
  13. NordUral
    NordUral 15 July 2016 22: 02
    0
    ...... and the West has achieved only moral superiority


    What did the West achieve there?
  14. Irokez
    Irokez 15 July 2016 22: 03
    +2
    Quote: Berkut24
    And what foreign language will they learn at school?

    Indo-European.
    After all, historians and linguists had to throw out the Old Slavic (or Aryan, Daarian, Khari, and so on) language from the minds of people, and they came up with an "Indo-European" type of language from India (Sanskrit) somehow migrated to Europe and changed, but the fact that he was originally a general ancient Slavic silence of the type there were no Slavs at all, period.
    So that descendants will study modern Indo-European (that is, Russian). I guarantee that all sorts of dialects will be mixed like Runetsky, Rusansky, but there are nothing to say about the Movs, so there is nothing to say.
  15. Tulip
    Tulip 15 July 2016 22: 15
    +2
    In general, it is hard to believe that Putin and his people now see anything but successes. So here is my final question: what has the West achieved, with the exception of self-righteous moral superiority?

    I would say, "Illusions of moral superiority."
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  17. Prisoner
    Prisoner 15 July 2016 22: 23
    0
    What is moral superiority ?! Screwed up, so dry the diapers! What moral superiority do the lackeys have when the master beats in hysteria in the Oval Office. request
  18. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 15 July 2016 22: 28
    +1
    The article is like a kind of cold shower on our Russian dwellers, at the same time we become more confident and stronger from the realization that united Russia will always be feared in the West. The idiocy of the Gayropean elite, and more of it Anglo-Saxon snobbery and the belief that Russia will take their values ​​recklessly, are more than ruining not only the economy of the West, but also the unity of the West. And let them consider their supposed superiority over Russia their victory. Do not count your chickens before they are hatched.
  19. atamankko
    atamankko 15 July 2016 22: 35
    +1
    Sanctions hit the EU more than Russia, and everyone understands this.
    1. iouris
      iouris 15 July 2016 22: 43
      0
      Quote: atamankko
      Sanctions hit the EU more than Russia, and everyone understands this.

      Obviously, this is not something that "the eyes can see", but something that can be proved on demand. Can you confirm this position with numbers?
      The Russian leadership has not yet been able to extract any benefit from the sanctions. They do not work at enterprises, they do not pay the minimum wage. This is fraught with huge problems in the near future.
    2. stas
      stas 15 July 2016 23: 14
      0
      AtamanKO throwing slogans as on the Maidan is easier.

      Salaries and pensions turned into pennies. What is going on there deeply for me ........
      Che rejoice that, the neighbor also died a cow.

      Atamanko you remind our "patriots" before the war, but we will crush the Fritzes on their territory and shower them with hats.

      From such heroes with slogans more harm than good
  20. SAA
    SAA 15 July 2016 22: 39
    0
    What a nonsense with these sanctions. Hike "TAM" beguiled Russia and Moscow. Moscow is a super-super-megapolis that eats everything and everyone at the expense of all of Russia. But Russia is not the only one rich in Moscow. Me and my friends generally like that the store has 10 varieties of cheese and sausages instead of 100. I have been everywhere in Europe once, and I don't want to anymore. Although there is a friend who is just delighted with Portugal and constantly travels there. But his choice. I like Israel and Thailand more. These are practically branches of Russia or the suburbs of Moscow. Those who do not speak Russian are ruined. I have not noticed the sanctions. There is just a short period with financial difficulties. However, this was not reflected in trips to the "Russian branches" in the Red Sea and Asia.
  21. Krsk
    Krsk 15 July 2016 22: 42
    +3
    I still don’t understand what European values ​​they always talk about? What is the name of the value that caused Sarkozzi to begin the collapse of Libya? or iron Yugoslavia? send soldiers to kill Iraq? and Syria, and Egypt?
    The value of the gopnik who is weaker than that and bring down in droves. if a soldier of your country travels thousands of kilometers from his homeland to kill simply because he allegedly has values, this is a pathology and not values. and sanctions ... yes let us not be sorry. and let them sickly think that they have moral superiority. although I don’t understand why they consider moral ugliness superiority. yes, let time think for a while, while the mahmuds will cut and blow them up
  22. Bosk
    Bosk 15 July 2016 22: 52
    0
    The topic of sanctions is already beginning to bore ... there are too many "talking houses" ..., well, and secondly, no matter whether there are sanctions or they are not, a hard worker (no matter where he lives) wakes up "POOL" from payday to payday anyway!
  23. Million
    Million 15 July 2016 22: 53
    +1
    Well, if Russia was strengthened not only by sanctions, but also by the fruitful work of the government
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  25. sounddoc
    sounddoc 15 July 2016 23: 04
    +4
    The thought of "moral superiority" amused me pretty much. Let them shove their opinions .... in short, guys, you understand the train of thought))))
    P.S. Lord, how intolerant I am ... I’m already taking the dumbass .....
  26. BOB044
    BOB044 15 July 2016 23: 15
    +1
    Yes, Russia had you with your sanctions. laughing
  27. D. Dan
    D. Dan 15 July 2016 23: 34
    +1
    Not sure even of moral superiority. I have spring boots. Good, my grand weekend. Recently I went for a cream for them, I decided to clean and grease. I look, cream for 15 re. Let me think I'll try. Ours, St. Petersburg. He smeared it with a hairdryer. I look, and the cream is noble! And if about 10 years ago, this would be a salamander or Turchinsky kiwi, now it is our cream. Normal cream. Appeared, dear. Here it is, my moral superiority. Import substitution!
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  28. Rambylbafen
    Rambylbafen 15 July 2016 23: 34
    +4
    across Russia 24 in Turkey military coup repeat
  29. D. Dan
    D. Dan 15 July 2016 23: 39
    +1
    Yah? We must look, it can’t be!
    He looked, not a fake, men, it has begun!
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 16 July 2016 00: 03
      +3
      Quote: D. Dan
      He looked, not a fake, men, it began

      Yes, damn it, the tomatoes are ripe !!!!!!! The Turkish military said they had taken over the government building. On 24 there is a live broadcast. "Yo-Ho-Ho, ub.yudok !!!" (D. McLain-B. Willis)
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 16 July 2016 00: 25
        +3
        Quote: Paranoid50
        Yes, damn it, here the tomatoes are ripe!

        Is it Putin’s HPP? But what about the Russians vacationers? It turns out that the GDP together with the government ommanul them? Not good. laughing
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 16 July 2016 01: 00
          +2
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          But what about the Russians vacationers?

          But what about the thinking Russians ?! Is the irrepressible thirst for a freebie able to hammer everything, including the notorious instinct of self-preservation? After all, half a step towards, or rather even turning your head toward yesterday’s enemy is by no means reconciliation, and the situation in the region as a whole can only relax BDSM activists.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 16 July 2016 01: 20
            +3
            Quote: Paranoid50
            ! Is the irrepressible thirst for a freebie able to hammer everything, including the notorious instinct of self-preservation?

            It’s sweet for freebies and vinegar. I don’t give a damn about such freebies, and now I’m lacquering cognac in honor of the coup, and I wish Erdogashka a successful noose around his neck under the howling of a mullah listing his sins.
            1. Paranoid50
              Paranoid50 16 July 2016 01: 41
              +4
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              and in honor of the coup, I’m lacquering cognac now,

              If it doesn’t make it difficult, then give up for me, for health reasons are temporarily "in stock". hi drinks
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 16 July 2016 02: 03
                +3
                Quote: Paranoid50
                If it doesn’t make it difficult, then give up for me, for health reasons are temporarily "in stock".

                No problem. laughing drinks
  30. kvarfax
    kvarfax 15 July 2016 23: 40
    +5
    Sanctions against Russia work ??? Mmm, I might not understand something, but sanctions are imposed AGAINST our several companies and the government. Ordinary citizens do not care. Neither food nor consumer goods came under their sanctions. But those who got forced to leave money with us. Establishing production in the homeland of what used to be quietly bought abroad.

    The fall of the ruble ... everything is bad. I don’t know how bad it is. One company produces dairy equipment. Previously, tanks were bought in Spain. Now they cook it themselves. Do you think they suffered from this?
    Another company is engaged in construction, but profits have fallen due to the fact that prices for imported materials have risen. But now, more often, customers and partners agree to domestic ones. Fortunately, they are often not inferior in quality.
    So it is certainly bad, I'm afraid the main blow to us was not sanctions, but a little more hidden. The same attack on the ruble and ratings. But I'm afraid this is not due to sanctions - but the only thing is that Russia began to grow rapidly. Which is quite expected, do not like those who now have to cram. I can understand them. In the same way, you will protect YOURSELF from ALIENS. And we were for them and will be strangers.
    And of course they want to rob us and get everything that is possible, because their priority is not moral values, but ordinary and simple profit. Is there theft in humanity? If people steal from each other, then why can't states do the same? After all, it is people who rule them. Another thing is that in our country theft in any form (even by law) is still condemned. Let not publicly, even outside the gate, or in the gateway. And there is the complete victory of the law. Which people also accept ... in general, something far I went.
    Generally. sanctions lie and let yourself lie. And then our (and indeed any) moneybags can not be forced otherwise to bring benefit to the Motherland.
  31. D. Dan
    D. Dan 15 July 2016 23: 43
    +3
    Well, that’s it, the Sultanich jumped up the goat.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 16 July 2016 00: 06
      +3
      Well, you see, not the entire officer corps cleaned up.
  32. Glaaki
    Glaaki 16 July 2016 00: 05
    +2
    This ... There, Erdogan’s military seemed to be crippling.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 16 July 2016 00: 11
      +3
      The bridges across the Bosphorus are blocked by tanks. The airport is closed. "... AND EVERYTHING IS GOING ACCORDING TO THE PLAN !!!" (Egor Letov)
  33. Garris199
    Garris199 16 July 2016 00: 16
    0
    So Kerry talked with Putin. Apparently consensus has been reached. There is still a press conference and Erdogash in Ankara is already kicking. Such are the tomatoes.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 16 July 2016 00: 48
      +1
      Now the question is - will Erdogan get rid of tomatoes from his own military?
  34. Cananecat
    Cananecat 16 July 2016 00: 22
    -1
    Nezhdanchik from Turkey however ...
    NEW MESSAGES UPPER
    00:17
    Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov urged to avoid any bloody clashes and resolve all issues exclusively in the constitutional field.
    00:15
    US Secretary of State John Kerry expressed hope that Turkey "will have stability, peace and continuity," but said that he could not yet comment on the latest events in this country.
    “As for Turkey: since we (with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov) had intensive discussions all day long, Sergei and I only learned at the last minute about what was happening there or not. So I have nothing to say except that we have heard the same reports as others. I have no details at the moment, "said Kerry following the talks in Moscow.


    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20160715/1467044001.html#ixzz4EVxzDwtf
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 16 July 2016 00: 34
      +2
      Martial law and curfew have been imposed. Everything is correct, everything is according to the scheme. The Turks have accumulated rich experience. This is how to jerk your own people ?! "... he himself wanted to reign and own everything ..." (c) But Erdogan still blathers, urging ... the people to resist. And the people came out to support the military.
  35. tomket
    tomket 16 July 2016 00: 31
    +5
    Tomorrow we will find out, Rostov rubber?
    1. Garris199
      Garris199 16 July 2016 00: 35
      -2
      Oh, come on. Erdogan, it was decided to remove. The decision was finally made by the parties at a meeting in Moscow. Listening to Kerry singing is obvious. But the capabilities of the United States can be envied. This whole situation has gone and is being controlled through NATO channels.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 16 July 2016 00: 38
      +1
      Yes, he’s more likely to Washington, and for all his strength, he will fly.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 16 July 2016 00: 48
        +3
        Quote: Vadim237
        Yes, he’s more likely to Washington

        Yes there he is needed less than in ... Damascus
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 16 July 2016 01: 06
          +3
          Well, what was required to be proved: he asked to go to the Bundes ... As an option, drive him along the "road of refugees" (deflated Zodiac, Greece, Macedonia, Montenegro, Hungary, Austria, ....) .... no, it won't work ... yes
  36. Vadim237
    Vadim237 16 July 2016 00: 44
    +1
    Looks like Erdogan jumped off two stools.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 16 July 2016 00: 51
      +3
      Quote: Vadim237
      jumped off two stools.

      After all, they warned: there wouldn’t be enough seats! I didn’t listen ... yes
  37. Blind believer
    Blind believer 16 July 2016 00: 52
    0
    IMHO, Check and dirty tricks ... Whether still will be.
  38. Vadim237
    Vadim237 16 July 2016 00: 57
    0
    The main thing is that the B61 thermonuclear bombs do not hang down during this military confusion.
  39. Gunther
    Gunther 16 July 2016 01: 04
    0
    Off topic, but it's worth it:
    It looks like the military is preparing a hemp tie for Regge Perdogan)))
    The military seized the headquarters of Erdogan, the head of the Istanbul branch of the ruling Justice and Development Party in Turkey confirmed to CNN Turk that the military had blocked their headquarters.
    A powerful explosion in Ankara occurred in the building of the state channel TRT1.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 16 July 2016 01: 26
      +1
      This is the leg of the State Department kicking in the ass to "friends"
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  43. SCHWERIN
    SCHWERIN 16 July 2016 01: 11
    0
    Interestingly, this is the hand of the State Department? We feel bad.
    Although Erdogan hurt the military, he planted many. The military were against the Islamization of Turkey, supported the secular regime.
    So perhaps this is a purely military coup. The people of Erdogan did not like, remember the dispersal of the Maidan.
    The people will support the military.
    RF need to keep abreast. To support the military, if it is to our advantage. Manage to seize the initiative before amers.
  44. D. Dan
    D. Dan 16 July 2016 01: 16
    +1
    Hardly a State Department. Although, Kerry and Lavrov ...
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 16 July 2016 01: 22
      +3
      Quote: D. Dan
      Although, Kerry and Lavrov ...

      ... they’re definitely not going to sleep today. yes
  45. Gunther
    Gunther 16 July 2016 01: 24
    +1
    They are wondering where Erdogan will be drafting, to Britain or Germany (the Boschs have already refused).
    It will be funny if the fluent Regge Perdogan warms Russia on his chest.
    PS
    They say that "everything is calm" in Turkish resorts :-)
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 16 July 2016 01: 35
      0
      The US is probably now frantically preparing an operation to protect its nuclear weapons at bases in Turkey.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 16 July 2016 01: 52
        +2
        Yes, it is already well protected, it is more likely that the level of preparedness will be increased, and security will be strengthened.
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 16 July 2016 02: 01
          +2
          Meanwhile, the army team grappled with the gendarmes and GB. Well, here the result is predictable.
  46. Art777
    Art777 16 July 2016 01: 55
    +1
    Here many drove to an article about the experience of the USSR ... And they don’t even notice that they are already silent about the second stage of privatization! Why did you need a cheap ruble, so as to increase your fortune in dollars and finally buy up the remnants of the USSR in rubles ... Here you have the whole fluctuation of the exchange rate, and the whole economic policy.
    But Europe will print pieces of paper, write them off to the sales markets - Bulgaria, Hungary, Krajina, Russia through Belarus, and will live to roam, and see the default.
  47. Gunther
    Gunther 16 July 2016 02: 12
    0
    Quote: D. Dan
    Hardly a State Department. Although, Kerry and Lavrov ...

    If in Rostov-the hand of the State Department)
    If to the Naglosaks - the Kremlin’s hand)
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 16 July 2016 02: 37
      +3
      Well, here and do not go to the grandmother (Merkel). yes
    2. iouris
      iouris 16 July 2016 03: 26
      0
      It seems that at the moment Erdogan has all the nadinamil, but how will things develop further? There must be a plan B.
  48. Pitot
    Pitot 16 July 2016 03: 25
    +1
    Well. Turkey has always loved military coups .... we look at the theater further ..... the grasshopper jumped ...
    1. Bramb
      Bramb 16 July 2016 03: 47
      0
      Nothing will happen. No one jumped.
      Ours does not make sense to overthrow him: he no longer has friends in the world. Amer can, but this is not their handwriting. It is local. But they have no experience. They will crush, the instigators will be shot and Erdogan’s power will be strengthened.
  49. Bramb
    Bramb 16 July 2016 03: 31
    +1
    The invasion of Syria saved Assad, and forced the Americans to negotiate.
    ---------------------
    Well, they can’t be without outright lies! We were invited by a legitimately elected president! What else is the invasion of Syria? !!
    But the troops of the United States and others invaded it.
    Everything is upside down. So they lied to themselves that they themselves cannot distinguish between a lie and a truth.
  50. Zomanus
    Zomanus 16 July 2016 03: 53
    +2
    Here, after all, there’s another moment ...
    As soon as France spoke of lifting the sanctions, a truck in Nice formed right away.
    As soon as the Turkish leader began to try to restore good relations with us, then immediately an attempted coup. And it seems to me that after these events, these leaders got a call and was informed what it was for ...
    So under the sanctions, if you look closely, not only we.
    1. Bramb
      Bramb 16 July 2016 04: 01
      0
      Subtle observation!
      If you look closely, you will see that an earthquake or volcanic eruption immediately began: this is not otherwise used new weapons.
      And if you look closely and look around, you can see millions of people who themselves can do a lot. And not just two forces. It is clear that to see only two forces in the world and explain everything that happens to them is simple, and you can even consider yourself an awesome online literary, connecting all world events to these two forces, but this, to put it mildly, a mollioncrat is a strong exaggeration.
      1. Antiprogressor
        Antiprogressor 16 July 2016 05: 13
        0
        You see, comrade, an ant can drag a straw, they already help him drag a caterpillar. But the beast came up, and he turned the anthill (the same bear sometimes decided to eat protein and treat it with formic acid).
        Not everything is as simple as we would like. I also enjoy looking around. And what is it where the sound of a shell is constantly waiting for.
        Be carefull!
        Well, but in everyday life: "Don't relax! ..."
    2. Antiprogressor
      Antiprogressor 16 July 2016 04: 55
      +1
      That's right. The same Malaysian Boeing in the Donbass was shot down at the right time. Who does not remember, the conversation began about the civil war, about the stupidity and ugliness of Kiev, about the Odessa tragedy and here you are! Russians are coming!
      ДНР
      Directorate of National Intelligence. USA, of course.
      Please favor, but not love: Professor James Moriarty Jr. aka James Clapper, ("the owner of factories, newspapers, steamers ..." - why these little things, - the owner of all the information in the world. And this is ... your money in banks . Your brains on the shelves. Your work, study. All industry and transport. All armies of the world. All parliaments of the world. And this is not a joke. This is a reality).
      Take an interest. It’s not him who bothers me. I wonder who is behind him?