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The authorities of St. Petersburg are looking for the "owner" of Mannerheim's board

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Passions on the memorial plaque in honor of Gustav Mannerheim, who served in the Russian Imperial Army, which had served in the Russian Imperial Army, and then collaborated with Nazi Germany during World War II, do not subside. In the name of representatives of the St. Petersburg authorities are pouring letters asking for the dismantling of the scandalous signs on Zakharyevskaya street. In this case, the authorities of the city on the Neva are not in a hurry to dismantle. Information Agency TASS cites the statement of the head of the city committee on culture, Konstantin Sukhenko:


We did not consider the appropriate appeal (about the installation of a memorial) and did not take any decisions. How we will get out of this situation is not yet clear; the current legislation does not provide for any measures on our part. In an amicable way, a master should appear at the board, but in view of a certain status uncertainty, no one wants to take on expenses and relations with dissatisfied citizens. And as soon as someone says that "we have washed the board," it will become clear that this is the owner, and all the anger of the public will fall upon the owner.


The authorities of St. Petersburg are looking for the "owner" of Mannerheim's board


It should be noted that the board on memorial plaques and monuments of St. Petersburg declared the illegality of installing the board in honor of Mannerheim. At the same time, Sukhenko notes that “such arguments look convincing,” but he added that there is no corresponding statement.

It turns out that no one of the official authorities is already ready to take responsibility for belonging to the group of ideologists of its installation in the Northern capital after spectacular posing against the background of an open board of Mannerheim. Does this mean that stories Russia and the memory of the victims of the blockade of Leningrad in this case irresponsible?
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Ministry of Culture of Russian Federation
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  1. awg75
    awg75 14 July 2016 08: 03
    -103%
    Why are we fighting so hard with the dead ???
    1. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 14 July 2016 08: 06
      +86
      Not with the dead, but against the perversion of history.
      1. cniza
        cniza 14 July 2016 09: 20
        +22
        Quote: Tartar 174
        Not with the dead, but against the perversion of history.


        It turns out that none of the official authorities, after spectacular posing against the backdrop of Mannerheim’s open board, is no longer ready to take responsibility for belonging to the group of ideologists of its installation in the Northern capital. Does this mean that the attitude to the history of Russia and the memory of the victims of the siege of Leningrad in this case is irresponsible?


        It smelled of fried and immediately into the bushes, of course, elections are coming soon, they live in their world ...
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 14 July 2016 10: 08
          +21
          Ha! Do not find officials in St. Petersburg by the the owner of the board Mannerheim ?! This is absolute nonsense!
          This is so that the head of the Presidential Administration of the Russian Federation, a permanent member of the Security Council of Russia, retired colonel general of the GRU Sergey Ivanov personally just “VLYAJA” at the opening of a memorial plaque to Mannerheim in St. Petersburg, “NOT KNOWING” about WHO owns this memorial plaque? ! belay It doesn’t happen! Need to ask S. Ivanov. laughing
          I’m not talking about Medinsky at all.
          The authorities simply hang noodles on people’s ears! fool
          1. creak
            creak 14 July 2016 10: 33
            +11
            Quote: Tatiana
            This is for the head of the Presidential Administration of the Russian Federation, a permanent member of the Security Council of Russia, retired colonel general of the GRU Sergei Ivanov personally

            I would like to clarify - Ivanov was never a military man and did not serve in the GRU. He is a Chekist and served in the KGB PSU - and this, as they say in Odessa, is two big differences ... yes
            The fact that he was Minister of Defense for some time does not make him a military, as it turns out the Defense Ministry may even be headed by Serdyukov ...
            You can agree with the rest.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 14 July 2016 11: 43
              +2
              creak
              I wanted to clarify...
              Victor! Thank you for clarifying! And then here I was somehow already prompted about the fact that S. Ivanov allegedly served in the GRU.
          2. Hlavaty
            Hlavaty 14 July 2016 14: 44
            +3
            Quote: Tatiana
            Do not find the officials of St. Petersburg the owner of the board Mannerheim?


            But I don’t understand why to look for owners ?!

            The Council on Plaques and Monuments of St. Petersburg declared the installation of a plaque in honor of Mannerheim illegal.

            The city authorities themselves say that "they did not consider the appropriate appeal (on the installation of the memorial) and did not make any decisions."

            So the board is Drawn and ILLEGAL

            That is, any citizen can take and dismantle it. So if the Petersburgers have a desire, then they can arrange a no less solemn dismantling of the board. And no scum can stop them.
            1. BARKHAN
              BARKHAN 14 July 2016 15: 32
              +3
              Quote: Hlavaty
              But I don’t understand why to look for owners ?!

              Quote: Hlavaty
              So if the Petersburgers have a desire, they can arrange a no less solemn dismantling of the board.

              That's exactly what is solemnly needed. With an orchestra performing "Get up, huge country ...", more people. To catch up with journalists so that they can be broadcast live ...
              And all the same faces in the front row, Medinsky with Ivanov. Let them ask the blockade, veterans and Russians simple apologies for the whole of Russia.
              Do not let go of the brakes and do not shut up. Let every official know that the presumptuous people can put in a stall and feed hay at any time ...
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      3. Mikado
        Mikado 14 July 2016 10: 58
        +7
        Quote: Tartar 174
        Not with the dead, but against the perversion of history.

        Yeah. Even those perverts. Even if in the south of the city "Stamesku" on Pulkovo will be demolished and a monument to Leeb will be erected. Why Leeb, Hitler at once! He is also Leningrad didn't take. The great was a humanist! angry And do not fight with him, he's dead! (men, this is sarcasm)
    2. guzik007
      guzik007 14 July 2016 08: 07
      +54
      why are we fighting so hard with the dead ???
      -------------------------------------------
      Then, so that OUR dead in the tombs do not roll over.
    3. V.ic
      V.ic 14 July 2016 08: 08
      +16
      Quote: awg75
      Why are we fighting so hard with the dead?

      And who is "we"? If you really can't bear it, then install this memorial plaque in your bathhouse.
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 14 July 2016 08: 15
        +44
        Quote: awg75
        Why are we fighting so hard with the dead ???
        Quote: V.ic
        Get this commemorative plaque in your bathhouse.
        Only in its true form - with the bloody butcher and Hitler's accomplice Mannerheim, and not with a certain "servant to the king, father to soldiers." Maybe then such stupid questions will disappear by themselves.
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 14 July 2016 08: 25
          +10
          The authorities of St. Petersburg are looking for the "owner" of Mannerheim's board

          It would be interesting to know: were there any relatives of Mannerheim among the initiators of the erection of the memorial plaque? Painfully everything shows just that. And relatives, it is possible, may be in power.
          1. Evgeny RS
            Evgeny RS 14 July 2016 08: 34
            +11
            I am sure that the decision to install the board was made at the very top.
            1. gray smeet
              gray smeet 14 July 2016 09: 03
              +8
              Quote: Eugene RS
              I am sure that the decision to install the board was made at the very top.


              And what are you embarrassed to say that Putin himself made this decision. That’s why they don’t remove this damn board so far and it doesn’t have a master (people are not fools, anyway they’ll ever take off). And do not need political correctness when you tell the truth.
              1. gray smeet
                gray smeet 14 July 2016 09: 29
                +10
                And how do you like comrades, such boards are still in use today (they have been standing in Rostov-on-Don for more than 20 years):



                I'm interested in your thoughts on this?
                Or say the Yeltsin Center - how do you like it?
                1. gray smeet
                  gray smeet 14 July 2016 09: 32
                  +9
                  Here is the continuation of the board:

                  Again, your thoughts are interesting about this.
                  1. Ami du peuple
                    Ami du peuple 14 July 2016 12: 10
                    +5
                    Quote: gray smeet
                    Again, your thoughts on this subject are interesting.
                    Yes, what thoughts can there be .. One only sincere amazement that such a highly deceitful bawdy stood unharmed for twenty years. "They shot every 2-3 minutes .. from 120 to 140 people a day" - yes, what a hell, female dogs, non-performing mathematicians - 1440 by 3 cannot be correctly divided! Or do they think that the "kgovy Stalinist executioners" had an 8-hour working day? smile The only question is: how did the ancestors of today's "Memorial" people survive and managed to produce such devils?
                2. faiver
                  faiver 14 July 2016 10: 30
                  +9
                  how, and where is it in Rostov on the Don? and who set?
                  1. gray smeet
                    gray smeet 14 July 2016 10: 53
                    0
                    Quote: faiver
                    how, and where is it in Rostov on the Don? and who set?


                    Put "Memorial", and at the place of installation, it is better to ask Rostovites.
                    1. free
                      free 14 July 2016 12: 58
                      +1
                      ah memorial, those are the devils
                3. aleks700
                  aleks700 14 July 2016 11: 55
                  +2
                  Kopec. Doomed to slow dying after liberation. Pearl. We are ALL doomed to slow dying. Who is in 70, who is in 80, and only some lucky ones do not suffer so long.
                4. kit-kat
                  kit-kat 14 July 2016 12: 06
                  0
                  Fists shot 750000. And why not 7.5 million?
            2. Mavrikiy
              Mavrikiy 14 July 2016 10: 40
              +4
              Quote: Eugene RS
              I am sure that the decision to install the board was made at the very top.

              So then it is, liberals God did not offend us. However, when it turned out that they would look for the extreme and in a rude form say ay-ay-ay, as it is not a shame, the authors-historians disappeared. And why look for something, the paper remained, and the financial footprint. The board is considered a work of art, the loot is not weak dumped from the city budget (under the article culture).
          2. nadezhiva
            nadezhiva 14 July 2016 13: 39
            +1
            Quote: SRC P-15
            It would be interesting to know: were there any relatives of Mannerheim among the initiators of the erection of the memorial plaque? Painfully everything shows just that. And relatives, it is possible, may be in power.
            recourse Mannerheim was a walker. The first thing that comes to mind is Countess Shuvalova, nee Baryatinsky. There are no official children from this novel, but the countess princesses had the ability to quietly give birth and give up their children who were born not from legitimate husbands. It’s not upset that Gustav himself was one of seven children in the family. Relatives should be.
        2. free
          free 14 July 2016 12: 57
          -1
          but do not be surprised if you are set on fire.
    4. Comrade Schucher
      Comrade Schucher 14 July 2016 08: 09
      +20
      Well, what's so complicated? One hit with a sledgehammer on the side, in the region of 1918, the second on the head to the one who makes a noise ...

      What do I need to take a vacation and come to show how to do it?
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 14 July 2016 08: 20
        +11
        I have a sledgehammer, I can come to support, if ... laughing
        1. Comrade Schucher
          Comrade Schucher 14 July 2016 08: 44
          +9
          Quote: Balu
          I can come to support, if ...

          And what? Thought is not bad!
          Let's arrange a flash mob called "The Wrath of the Piskarevsky Cemetery".
          Only it is necessary to do it in a quiet way, otherwise it will not push through from those who want to pick up this disgrace.
    5. starshina78
      starshina78 14 July 2016 08: 11
      +13
      In your opinion, so let's install the boards to everyone who has ever done anything in Russia, for example: Rosenberg, the minister of the Hitlerite Government, who graduated from the school. Bauman. No one is fighting the "dead", but demand that the accomplices of the fascists not be immortalized.
    6. Andrey K
      Andrey K 14 July 2016 08: 14
      +17
      Quote: awg75
      Why are we fighting so hard with the dead ???

      What kind of dead are you talking about?
      If about Mannerheim - then this is just a fascist henchman negative
      And the installation of a memorial plaque in the city, the blockade of which he carried out, on the conscience of which thousands of savagely murdered people is not a fight against the dead, with our ancestors negative
      No fight with anyone is needed, no need to impose monuments to the Nazis, that's all request
    7. yugan
      yugan 14 July 2016 08: 14
      +7
      This type organized a massacre in Vyborg, and indeed involved in the deaths of a considerable number of Russian people.
      Quote: awg75
      Why are we fighting so hard with the dead ??

      So you can agree on what to fight with all sorts of rubbish perpetuating the memory of Bandera, or Hitler.
      This board, judging by the reaction of the authorities, itself materialized - so let it be removed. If hanged without permission, so what is the problem - then remove it?
    8. svu93
      svu93 14 July 2016 08: 28
      +11
      We do not fight the dead, we preserve the truth for the living!
    9. Monos
      Monos 14 July 2016 08: 51
      +9
      Quote: awg75
      Why are we fighting so hard with the dead ???


      Not with the dead, but with those who revive them; with those who rewrite history; with those who palm off false heroes; with those who are trying to erase our memory. It is strange that you do not understand this.
    10. BOB044
      BOB044 14 July 2016 08: 54
      +3
      awg75 (4) RU Today, 08:03

      Why are we fighting so hard with the dead ???
      You offer the board to General Vlasov to open. After all, he first fought the same with Hitler and then with the communist regime.
    11. jovanni
      jovanni 14 July 2016 09: 11
      +3
      Quote: awg75
      Why are we fighting so hard with the dead ???


      They are killing. First brains, and ultimately people. Just look at Ukraine ...
    12. vlad66
      vlad66 14 July 2016 09: 24
      +9
      Quote: awg75
      Why are we fighting so hard with the dead ???

      You go or visit someday at the Piskarevsky cemetery in St. Petersburg, come, just wait, shut up and think, Mannerheim had a hand in the deaths.
    13. Orionvit
      Orionvit 14 July 2016 11: 09
      +1
      Why are we fighting so hard with the dead ???
      In the hands of these dead, the blood of hundreds of thousands, and sometimes millions of OUR dead. Let's close our eyes, so what?
    14. Juborg
      Juborg 14 July 2016 12: 49
      +2
      We are not fighting the dead, but those who are trying to distort history and those who are hiding behind these boards, monuments, etc., are trying to sell Russia. Today the campaign cannot be found not by the owner of this bas-relief, not by the persons who contributed to its establishment. And it’s also regrettable that high-ranking officials (Ivanov, Medinsky, in particular!) Became very illegible because of their own PR.
      1. Artyom
        Artyom 14 July 2016 13: 27
        +1
        If the memorial plaque is not drawn, then it will be mine! She's kind of bronze. We'll have to turn it in for a waste, since the public is against it.
  2. Bureaucrat
    Bureaucrat 14 July 2016 08: 04
    +15
    There you have it, they said how they carved themselves. So you guys in a mess and anarchy turns out ?!
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 14 July 2016 08: 10
      +10
      Quote: Bureaucrat
      There you have it, they said how they carved themselves. So you guys in a mess and anarchy turns out ?!

      Take it wider in the state! hi
    2. Andrey K
      Andrey K 14 July 2016 08: 22
      +19
      Quote: Bureaucrat
      There you have it, they said how they carved themselves. So you guys in a mess and anarchy turns out ?!

      Touching phrase of the head of the city committee on culture Konstantin Sukhenko:
      a host should appear at the board

      Yes, not a problem - this owner "lit up" on all TV channels, and he did not hide when he opened this board with fanfare negative
      I’ll give a hint to the "forgotten" Mr. Sukhenko: this is his chief at the federal level - Vladimir Rostislavovich Medinsky, Minister of Culture of the Russian Federationrequest
      Send him a parcel post with this "memorial" plaque hi
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      2. Ased
        Ased 14 July 2016 09: 20
        0
        It’s good, though, that there are no questions with the membership of Tsereteli’s statute and they don’t appear by themselves ... :)))
  3. asiat_61
    asiat_61 14 July 2016 08: 06
    +8
    If they recognized that it was not established legally, then in order to withdraw, a decree (and preferably a federal law) signed by the President is needed.
  4. Aleksandr69
    Aleksandr69 14 July 2016 08: 09
    +4
    letters are pouring in with requests to dismantle the scandalous tablet

    such arguments look convincing, ”but added that there is no corresponding statement.
    something does not fit in with me: are there any appeals or not? Or should it be the owner of the board? So you can wait indefinitely ...
  5. V.ic
    V.ic 14 July 2016 08: 11
    +9
    I personally am glad that the venture with perpetuating the memory of the fascist lackey began to burst at the seams. Whoever disagrees with me, let not a Piskaryov cemetery go.
    1. Engineer
      Engineer 14 July 2016 08: 28
      -4
      I do not agree with you, because this is not an undertaking, but a fait accompli. Farther in the minds of the fifth column, this should not go at all. And yes, I’m not going to go to St. Petersburg for the sake of the cemetery for sure, there are much more interesting sights of the city.
  6. Aleksandr
    Aleksandr 14 July 2016 08: 21
    +6
    "It turns out that none of the official authorities after spectacular posing against the backdrop of Mannerheim’s open board is no longer ready to take responsibility for belonging to the group of ideologists of its installation in the Northern capital. Does this mean that the attitude to the history of Russia and the memory of the victims of the siege of Leningrad in this case is irresponsible? "----- HOW did they always naughty and in the bushes)))
  7. K-50
    K-50 14 July 2016 08: 21
    +6
    What is there to look for a host? am
    They came, broke and threw the remains in the trash !!!
    How Mannerheim himself was thrown into the trash of history !!! am
  8. Aleksander
    Aleksander 14 July 2016 08: 23
    +7
    We did not consider the corresponding appeal (on the installation of the memorial) and did not make any decisions

    So done unlawful act. The video shows installers-violators Ivanov and Medynsky. What prevents to initiate a case and especially to demolish a board?

    If I stick a paper-ad in the wrong place, I will be fined right away, and then a whole board yes
  9. Engineer
    Engineer 14 July 2016 08: 24
    +4
    Yes, it’s bad when there is no master in the city. We, too, many believe that the mayor is a fictional character, because no one even knows what he looks like, and even more so they have not heard about his work.
  10. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 14 July 2016 08: 35
    +6
    The authorities of St. Petersburg are looking for the "owner" of Mannerheim's board

    Their, what needs to be taught how to deal with orphaned property? Excuse me, if I pump right on the street and get stuck, they will not clean as well, but they will put me on the wanted list ???
  11. Evgeny RS
    Evgeny RS 14 July 2016 08: 41
    +5
    If there is no owner, then any citizen has the right to break this board))
  12. Gamer
    Gamer 14 July 2016 08: 41
    +1
    it is gratifying to see that public opinion means something
    1. Evgeny RS
      Evgeny RS 14 July 2016 09: 08
      +2
      Unfortunately, it means very little so far, otherwise this board would not have appeared.
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 14 July 2016 11: 27
        -1
        Unfortunately, it means very little so far, otherwise this board would not have appeared.
        The fact of the matter is that when they hung the board, they did not ask anyone, although they should have. And when they hung, then there was a shaft of indignation, though the extremes cannot be found. Hid. What kind of childhood? There were no men left, did- say, they say my initiative was wrong. And to hide? These people are also in power, a shame.
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 14 July 2016 12: 21
          +2
          Quote: Orionvit
          Unfortunately, it means very little so far, otherwise this board would not have appeared.
          The fact of the matter is that when they hung the board, they did not ask anyone, although they should have. And when they hung, then there was a shaft of indignation, though the extremes cannot be found. Hid. What kind of childhood? There were no men left, did- say, they say my initiative was wrong. And to hide? These people are also in power, a shame.

          What are you speaking about? An official is not a man by definition. The peasant has his own opinion, right or wrong, but his own. Where did the official come from? There are only dirty thoughts and secret desires. All as one - either criminally punishable, or so vile that people are ashamed to show.
          I once talked about professional topics with representatives of our city "establishment". Well, we talked, they relaxed, communication began informally ... in general, the dominant idea in their minds - why do we need this Crimea, why the heck Putin started all this strengthening of Russia, "everything was so good !!" For a while, I was able to listen to all this with an imperturbable look and even indistinctly assent. But my quilted jacket cannot be hidden behind an intelligent look ...
          You should have seen how instantaneous the transformation was! How quickly the fluids of panic spread in this environment! Within a few seconds a flock of die-hard "patriots" formed around me. Not very smart, but so FOR that straight tears from my eyes.
          I personally get the impression that Medynsky got someone drunk and was now blackmailed by someone like Venediktov. He really says the right things ... and then there is nowhere to bend.
        2. 16112014nk
          16112014nk 14 July 2016 14: 15
          0
          Quote: Orionvit
          Hid

          Ivanov did not hide. He, as always, watches and is afraid to frighten off.
    2. Orionvit
      Orionvit 14 July 2016 11: 48
      -1
      it is gratifying to see that public opinion means something
      Apparently, public opinion only means something on the VO forum. And even on such a resource are inadequate individuals who write in defense of liberal ideas. Okay with Manerheim, everything is clear here, but the juvenile law is a direct threat to the family and the state. Here, public opinion should stand as a united front. Deputies who voted for the adoption of this law, deprive of immunity, and judge by open court.
  13. kepmor
    kepmor 14 July 2016 08: 45
    +13
    This fucking board was hung a couple of weeks before Putin's trip to the Finns, who just about ... ate from such a "kiss on their ass" from our rulers! After all, no one else was present at the celebration, and the head
    administration of "his majesty" - it says a lot ...
    Yes, and Putin went there "not for mushrooms," but with a clear position - to prevent the Finns from joining NATO, who are being pulled there by the Americans! Remember his words - this is actually the last Chinese warning to the Finns in case of their entry into NATO!
    And this board is just, in the opinion of the near-neutron servants, a gesture of goodwill, but for a simple reason - they licked the ass, and even that is unsuccessful!
    Diplomacy and only diplomacy .... at any cost and by any means!
    Mr. President, is it not disgusting for you to keep a whole herd of such boobies in your environment?
    1. Evgeny RS
      Evgeny RS 14 July 2016 09: 13
      +9
      The board will not help with the decision of the Finns to join NATO. And, most likely, the story will repeat itself - the Finns will not be neutral again, but will be on the side of the enemy.
      And not a herd of boobies, but representatives of the 5th column. Kudrin alone is worth something - "Katz offers to surrender."
      For edro and GDP after the board no longer vote.
  14. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 14 July 2016 09: 07
    +7
    Shit! Is this spit in the face of the Russian people still hanging? And no one even threw a can of shit into this abomination? And the authorities are behaving like rotten - just a sight for sore eyes! Everything is in the spirit of the EP paradigm - irresponsibility and impunity! And in the case of the naughty - "we are not here in business" ... Everything, clean, in the liberal-edrosov style, as usual.
  15. AlexYa
    AlexYa 14 July 2016 09: 14
    +4
    Wow, it's fun in St. Petersburg. Can I nail some board too? "Luka Mudischevu - a fighter for demography", at the hospital, for example.
    1. Gamer
      Gamer 14 July 2016 09: 17
      +2
      you can))) and who will forbid? because (c) "A man like a pig, everything is allowed"
  16. Dr. Sorge
    Dr. Sorge 14 July 2016 09: 15
    +6
    Something unhealthy is going on. The authorities cannot even liquidate such an obvious provocation. What kind of helplessness?
    Well, at least the city authorities would have asked Ivanov and Medinsky, "whose shoe?" All are experts.
  17. Million
    Million 14 July 2016 09: 17
    +2
    And what is the difficulty? Long take off this crap? The owner then, if he wants, he will come running
  18. Brigadier
    Brigadier 14 July 2016 09: 25
    +5
    Why look everywhere for the owner of the board of this Manner Himmler? You just have to ask Ivanov and Medinsky directly. They should know who "ordered the table" anyway ... But it's hard for journalists to find them now! Encrypted ... They did nasty things to Russia and into the bushes! Real "democrats" ... eprst! I think that now people are interested in 5 main questions: who ordered it, who solved the issue with the installation, who was paid for it, who was rolled back and how much, and when will it be melted down? angry
  19. Backfire
    Backfire 14 July 2016 09: 34
    +2
    They found a pancake to whom a plaque puts no one else or what?
  20. Slavin
    Slavin 14 July 2016 09: 35
    +1
    Kadyrov’s board and bridge began to rattle almost simultaneously, it immediately seemed that one of them was distracting, like everything was clumsy
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    nekot 14 July 2016 09: 40
    -1
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    Signed by 7000 people. About the "dissolution" of the Russian national football team as many as 4 petitions, 900 "gifted" signed, the media with might and main hyped this deb..lizm, and then everything is quiet ((
  22. filalex79
    filalex79 14 July 2016 09: 40
    +3
    Why should someone look for a board to be removed for re-melting? That's all.
    1. 1536
      1536 14 July 2016 11: 23
      0
      Correctly! This is generally the business of the district authorities. The hooligans hung up a board and fled. So, the police should remove this board and how to pass the evidence to the investigation.
  23. Vovan 73
    Vovan 73 14 July 2016 09: 45
    +4
    Ivanov, the medina gopnik are of great age. Shit in the bushes
  24. Gas truck
    Gas truck 14 July 2016 10: 03
    +3
    not the state, but the theater of the absurd ...
  25. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 14 July 2016 10: 06
    +2
    Well, what a "fool" to include: the owner is not present ... With such fanfare they opened?
  26. Kibl
    Kibl 14 July 2016 10: 09
    +4
    The Finnish army also took part in the blockade of Leningrad .......
    1. faiver
      faiver 14 July 2016 10: 38
      +1
      but why find out what, whom, that it is so difficult to quietly remove it at night by the authorities themselves so as not to disgrace ....
  27. PValery53
    PValery53 14 July 2016 10: 27
    +1
    The federal government, out of "high international political considerations", decided to please the Finnish government. The people are absolutely against this. The regional government found itself between two fires: it wants to, and it pricks. I would like to please the people, but pricks to contradict the federal authorities. And how long will we stand like this?!.
  28. demotivator
    demotivator 14 July 2016 10: 56
    +3
    I don’t understand why the city authorities are looking for the owner of the board? Are they the authorities there or who? If the authorities, then make a decision and a couple of Tajiks with crowbars will quickly bring this place into proper form. Then, maybe, one of the owners of the board will show up. I suspect that Churov, who was then baptized on this board, could be the first to respond. He condemned himself, so to speak, with the sign of the Cross to the face of a accomplice of Hitler, who was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Leningraders during the Blockade during World War II.
    1. Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich
      Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich 14 July 2016 11: 28
      +2
      Yes, all this can be done in one day, and the "heroes of the occasion" can be found (there they are all, in the photographs of the correspondents, except for the guard of honor, these are forced people, there is an order - execute, and then appeal!), And customers (someone ordered board, someone paid, someone ordered the guard of honor to arrive, someone informed the correspondents). The threads that you can pull - like feathers in a peacock's tail! Well, should I teach an army officer - a retired FSB generals - tactics and methods of operational work? And if it appears inconsistently, take it to hell at the nearest waste collection point (after banging on the board a couple of times with a construction weight, which is used when demolishing buildings to be demolished).
      1. Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich
        Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich 14 July 2016 12: 38
        0
        What about arguing minus? But Tabaki was found! What a manner, he barked around the corner and on the move, until he was caught with all the relying upon consequences!
        Judging by the severity of the "slap in the face" in the general's shoulder straps you go, but openly act weakly!
  29. Romin
    Romin 14 July 2016 11: 20
    +2
    [hide] [/ hide]
    Quote: demotivator
    I don’t understand why the city authorities are looking for the owner of the board? Are they the authorities there or who? If the authorities, then make a decision and a couple of Tajiks with crowbars will quickly bring this place into proper form. Then, maybe, one of the owners of the board will show up. I suspect that Churov, who was then baptized on this board, could be the first to respond. He condemned himself, so to speak, with the sign of the Cross to the face of a accomplice of Hitler, who was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Leningraders during the Blockade during World War II.

    Thanks for the photo !!!
    Heroes need to know in person!
    Is there with Ivanov and Medinsky?

    See how the officials put Russia in the stupidest situation! There is no need to look for the best way to spoil relations with Finland! Our foreign ministry has just "fought" and sent signals to Finland with a request not to join NATO, and here you have such a gift for PR for the forces pulling Finland and Sweden into NATO!
    I didn’t expect any more stupidity from Putin’s comrades-in-arms ... And so ... On the very tomatoes, they inscribed themselves in history with such a minus and blackened the dead in blockade! It's a shame !
    And the Finnish and Swedish media "drive" this situation up and down!
    What id ... are you up on the top:
    Ivanov
    Medina
    Churov
    Still baptized on Manerheim ... ck ... you !!!!! We would reach the Piskarevsky cemetery, but we would kneel! I wish that the dead children of Leningrad come for you ...
  30. 1536
    1536 14 July 2016 11: 20
    +1
    That is, in Leningrad, you can hang any board with a bas-relief on any house and leave. And while they find the owner, 10 years will pass. In my opinion, in this unfortunate city the owner is simply absent. And then what to expect from this mismanagement? 17 year is coming soon!
    1. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 14 July 2016 15: 46
      +2
      Yeah ... No matter how the events of the last century are repeated ... It’s not scary for itself, the country will be cleaned up (albeit with the presence of rivers of blood), but again something will fall off after all.
  31. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 14 July 2016 11: 23
    +2
    Look for firefighters,
    Looking for militia,
    Looking for photographers
    In our capital,
    They are looking for a long time,
    But they can not find
    Some guy
    Twenty years.

    Middle-height,
    Shoulder and strong,
    ...
    No longer know
    About him nothing.

    Here is such a feint, can I ask the people who opened it about the owner of the board? It's just that - the citizens ..., ..., ..., who invited you to the opening? Who tore you from important state. affairs, who paid for your flight, trip, security, food?
    Everyone is afraid to ask only, they can ask from the person who asks. So citizens portray themselves as clowns, you can stupid harder - you will live longer. There is also a chance that antics will be noticed and appreciated for the benefit of a career.
  32. Sergey956
    Sergey956 14 July 2016 11: 25
    +2
    If there is no owner of the plaque, then it should be demolished. To the prosecutor’s office, to find in the administration of St. Petersburg a traitor who decided to rewrite the history of the city, forget the victims of the blockade and punish approximately. Such facts cannot be ignored, otherwise we will soon put a bust of Hitler on Red Square in Moscow.
  33. Yuriy Nikolayevich
    Yuriy Nikolayevich 14 July 2016 11: 53
    +3
    Hang on this wall still plaques, in honor of all the scum.
    And, rename the wall to "Wall of Shame", or something like that.
    Let people know the story.)))) Especially the younger generation.
    It would be better, of course, to move the wall closer to the landfill.
  34. Romin
    Romin 14 July 2016 11: 56
    +2
    Mannerheim is related to similar deaths of children in besieged Leningrad.

    And the heroes of our time:
    Ivanov, Medinsky and Churov
    A board of honor was set for him.

    It is not possible that Shoigu did not know, the building belongs to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
    Ivanov is Putin's attorney. So Putin was in the know.

    What do you think and thought when it is .... Planned?
    I cannot understand and accept this. You won’t get my vote in the election!
    1. Evgeny RS
      Evgeny RS 14 July 2016 12: 12
      0
      The liberals elevated Mannerheim to the rank of savior of Leningrad.
  35. KBR109
    KBR109 14 July 2016 12: 02
    0
    Everyone knows everything. Threads go up. Reign reigns (they can’t find the owner, they don’t know who ordered it). In the opinion of people - to spoil. But: patriotism should become a national idea. Such a panimash hassle. The cattle are false.
  36. newterra
    newterra 14 July 2016 12: 03
    0
    Quote: gray smeet
    And how do you like comrades, such boards are still in use today (they have been standing in Rostov-on-Don for more than 20 years):



    I'm interested in your thoughts on this?
    Or say the Yeltsin Center - how do you like it?

    Which moron fixed 20 million for 10
  37. Berkut24
    Berkut24 14 July 2016 12: 08
    +2
    The last time, the decision-making method in the museum city generally raises such a number of questions ...
    As if this is not a city with a great history, but someone’s private garden where you can plow anything and put ceramic crafts under each bush. The same issue with Kadyrov’s bridge. I will not discuss the figure of Akhmad Kadyrov, but PETER HERE AND WHY ??? He has never been there ever. He did nothing for the city, and St. Petersburg did not have any events related to his name.
    It’s a direct trend of some kind - to defiantly ignore the opinion of St. Petersburg and show who is the boss in the city. Some kind of regular Serdyukovism.
  38. NKVD
    NKVD 14 July 2016 12: 27
    +1
    Duck you take down the board and the owner will instantly show up
    1. Evgeny RS
      Evgeny RS 14 July 2016 12: 44
      +1
      And put prisoners in jail.
  39. Tektor
    Tektor 14 July 2016 12: 43
    +1
    But this board played an important consolidating role for our society ... Many immediately felt with their spinal cord which side they were on. You don’t drink genetic memory.
  40. Alexander S.
    Alexander S. 14 July 2016 13: 09
    +1
    If nobody ... that means the board is a draw ... and by definition it needs to be removed. And to attract Medinsky and Ivanov for hooliganism and damage to property. Photos are all .. who set .. who the organizer. Well, that’s so .. ideally. In general, cowards. Not ... I was expecting everything ... but in order to ... hang up the board and run away ... tail-tailing ... our officials go lower and lower ... punching bottom after bottom.
    And ... and the question is local .... why is the board clean .. whole?
  41. faiver
    faiver 14 July 2016 13: 14
    +1
    It’s a pity I live far from Peter - I would have long ago determined this board where it should be ..., I would not have spared some money for two Gaster ...
  42. Cobra77
    Cobra77 14 July 2016 14: 37
    +1
    That's just the lack of a host and stops dismantling. Yeah.

    What is the problem then, remove, pack in a cellophane and put in a warehouse. There will be an owner, pick up.

    But we all understand that this is not the reason, in power we have anti-Soviet and sufferers of "Russia that we have lost", and here is such a handsome former tsarist officer. And he killed not Russians, but Soviet ones.
    One hope for the arrival of the Red Army ....
  43. Chisayna
    Chisayna 14 July 2016 15: 21
    0
    Well, where is this one, I don’t remember Ruslan 67, it seems. Which with foam at the mouth and saliva of three meters protected the installation of this memorial plaque.
  44. afrikanez
    afrikanez 14 July 2016 15: 53
    +1
    Mach officials denied. angry Well, forever they are white and fluffy, with in about l about h and !!!
  45. oldzek
    oldzek 14 July 2016 15: 59
    +1
    from century to century we have two troubles: du .... and roads. the second began to be corrected, but when we get rid of the first ..... it seems we will see something else.
  46. midshipman
    midshipman 14 July 2016 21: 00
    +3
    I appealed to the ZS of the city to the deputy Kovalev (party of Social Revolutionaries, he leads this profile Committee). He personally sent a letter to the Governor about the illegal installation of a board for this fascist in the city on the initiative of Medinsky, Ivanov and Churov. I thought the board was already demolished.
    Socialist-Revolutionaries, Communists in the ZK city, get together and demand the implementation of the law on memorials. After all, elections are coming soon, this is your authority among the population. It is advisable to find among you a courageous one to sue for insulting those who died in the Second World War against these figures of our state. I have the honor.
  47. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 14 July 2016 21: 34
    +2
    We did not consider the appropriate appeal (about the installation of a memorial) and did not take any decisions. How we will get out of this situation is not yet clear; the current legislation does not provide for any measures on our part. In an amicable way, a master should appear at the board, but in view of a certain status uncertainty, no one wants to take on expenses and relations with dissatisfied citizens. And as soon as someone says that "we have washed the board," it will become clear that this is the owner, and all the anger of the public will fall upon the owner.

    This is the answer of a representative of the city authorities, where 89% of positions are held by a representative of the United Democratic Party. The question arises. As in the hometown of VVP, kind of like the fiefdom of Russian democracy, representatives of city authorities allow themselves such statements? Is it funny? No, I'm not funny, the situation with the "Mannerheim board" is a cast of the attitude of our government to our history and our people.
  48. RUSS
    RUSS 14 July 2016 21: 48
    0
    Calm down already, the board will not be removed hi
  49. demotivator
    demotivator 15 July 2016 10: 28
    0
    Quote: RUSS
    Calm down already, the board will not be removed

    Apparently yes, they won’t take it off.
    TASS reported that "The authorities of St. Petersburg are planning to renovate the former apartment of Carl Gustav Mannerheim."
    More on TASS:
    http://tass.ru/obschestvo/3452115
    The campaign is real, everything has rotted so that it will not be possible to fix it soon.