Scouting robot for the ATO zone. Part of 1

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“Something new always comes from Africa.”
Pliny Sr. (Roman writer).


From Ukraine also always come something new, sometimes funny.
And now: I did not have time to calm down the scandal associated with installing cameras from intercoms as surveillance devices at the BMPT “Azovets” - as a new scandal broke out.
And also associated with military equipment for the ATO zone.
It is a story There is no end to how a peace businessman suggested instead of sending soldiers to send cyborg to the front line and thereby save lives and protect the homeland.

In short, the story is:
As previously reported earlier Lviv entrepreneur, a certain Rostyslav Pasechnik (Rostislav Pasichnik) presented to the general public a remotely controlled Robot (mini-tank, he's a reconnaissance robot).
Lviv activists (volunteers) organized a fundraiser and, having collected the necessary amount, transferred money to the details of the entrepreneur.
But the businessman was unable to fulfill his obligations and stopped answering calls.
As a result, the ATO fighters did not receive the equipment, the entrepreneur disappeared, and did not return the money.
In general, the Ukrainian Terminator is not destined to save the lives of soldiers Square.
Но обо всем по порядку.

Start of development. The assumptions of the author.
According to the developers, a robot intelligence officer had to replace the Ukrainian soldiers in the most dangerous areas, and therefore reduce losses among personnel.
Apparently, the idea of ​​creating a combat robot arose in the 2013 year, even before Euromaidan, that is, under Yanukovych.
At the same time, work began on its creation.
Most likely, the work on the tank reconnaissance tank project (tank tank) was proceeded slowly.
But in the spring and summer of 2014, when the civil war on the territory of Ukraine was in full swing - the work on the creation of a combat robot was forced, in November 2014, one tank was presented to the public and sent to the combat zone.

Technical requirements. The assumptions of the author.
I could not find any technical specifications or documentation for the Ukrainian robotic complex.
But I studied all the reports, publications in the media and comments on this topic, summarized all the data and spread them below.
I think that I am not far from the truth.

Like foreign military robots, the Ukrainian mini-tank was supposed to monitor enemy territory (reconnaissance and surveillance), deliver ammunition and equipment to the battlefield and evacuate the wounded from there.
The robotic platform was conceived not only as a transport, but also as a means of fire support.
Therefore, attempts were made to adapt the machine to equip weapons of various types.
As a result, the Ukrainian military robot could provide not only fire support for the infantry, but also fight the enemy’s armored vehicles and even destroy its defenses.

In the future, it was supposed to develop more functional versions of 2: a robot sapper and a fire robot.
In the role of a sapper, the combat robot was to transport up to three minutes and drop them at the signal of the operator on the territory of the enemy, as well as be used to neutralize mined objects.
Performed by a robot-fireman, it was supposed to offer it for the needs of the Ministry of Emergency Situations: to perform rescue operations and tasks for the protection of sensitive objects without human intervention.
I think that the latter refers to the third performance: the robot-watchman.

To reduce conspicuity, the probability of overturning by a blast wave, as well as to increase survivability - the body of the robot must have small dimensions and a low profile.
The body of the machine must protect the internal units and systems from small arms weapons and splinters.
The robot must be controlled remotely by an operator at a safe distance (1-2 km.)
To provide the operator with a circular view, a set of day / night cameras should be installed on the machine.
In order for the operator not only to see, but also to hear what is happening on the battlefield, the reconnaissance robot must be equipped with a microphone.

The robot must move over rough terrain, overcome obstacles, steep ascents and descents.
Therefore, to increase the maneuverability of a combat robot, it is preferable to equip it with a tracked propulsor.
Tracked propulsion will be driven by an electric motor that will be powered by batteries.

The main developers.
According to Rostislav Pasechnik, about 50 people were involved in the development of a combat robot.
These are enterprises, scientists, energy.
Were used production facilities of LLC VEEM Metallavtoprom (production of passenger seats for public transport and metal work: laser cutting of metal, metal bending).

Engine and special gearbox for tank were developed at JSC Elektrobytpribor (50 years on the market of household washing machines).

He took part in the development and the university "Lviv Polytechnic" (the oldest technical educational institution of Ukraine).

The general management and coordination was apparently carried out by Rostislav Pasechnik, director of iT-service Mail company.
I suggest to pay special attention to the professional activity of this respectable entrepreneur.



I found information about the company "Mail Service" on Prom.ua
This is what his IT company did:



No doubt, the spread of spam in mailboxes has always been related to information technology.
Especially when the owner of the company language is suspended.
As Ostap Bender used to say:
- Who will say that this is not so, let the first one throw a stone at me!

Presentation.
January 2014 Lviv robotics club (Lviv RoboCafe).
Rostislav Pasechnik as a representative of the development team represents the universal unmanned robotic platform BROP-3.



Sounds a question from the audience:
- Do you think that it is enough to have an explosion next to the tank in order to destroy the tank with an explosive wave or knock it off?
Rostislav Pasechnik reports that the maximum height of the tank of the entire 80 can be seen, and therefore the blast wave is not terrible for him: it will pass higher.


Rostislav demonstrates the hall (literally on the fingers) that the blast wave will bypass his tank side.
Is that the explosion will occur in the 1 meter from the tank or less, but this is unlikely - adds the speaker.



The co-author of the project draws attention to the 2 slats for installing 30-mm grenade launchers.


Scouting robot for the ATO zone. Part of 1

These are the very guides for the two grenade launchers, about which Pan Paschnik speaks.



The prototype of a reconnaissance tank with two installed RPU-18 PU “Fly”.
The only photo that was found.


Rostislav assures lovers of robotics that when attacking 2-3 robots armed with RPGs - the enemy tank has no chance to survive.
I understand that we are talking about MBT T-72 and T-90.


The prototype of a reconnaissance tank with an AGS grenade launcher installed.
The only photo that was found.


Another question from the audience:
- Can he be immobilized by shooting from Kalash?
Speaker response:
- Unreal! It is possible to pierce the armor plate, but it is located at such an angle that after its penetration, the bullet changes its trajectory, loses energy and simply falls to the floor of the reserve space.
I will say more: in order to kill the caterpillar from the AK - it is required to flash it with an automatic burst over the entire width, which is also unrealistic.


This is the trajectory of a bullet in the space.


By showing a slide with the results of the shelling of the hull, the lecturer informs the audience that the body had made 40 AK shots without damaging the components and systems of the mini-tank.


The results of the shelling of the upper frontal parts of the tank reconnaissance.
On the left - hits from the SVD from a distance of 90 meters, on the right - hits of armor-piercing bullets issued from the Kalashnikov 7,62-mm assault rifle.


Please note that this is a different case.
The location of the frontal parts, their size, the very form of the body, tracks, rollers - everything is completely different.
While the lecturer poured about bulletproof covers for video cameras, a gyroscope, a compass and other useful features - he slipped the photo of another car to the public.
And if another car - and the results of others.
Just sleight of hand and no fraud.
I post the video of this speech at the end of the article.


The results of the shelling of the hull of the tank scout tank.
The speaker explains that the top side sheet is Polish armor, which is bought for 3 thousands of Euros.


Mass fame.
In the 20 of September 2014, the Ukrainian media was filled with joyful news on the topic "Lviv IT specialists developed a mini-tank for reconnaissance."
Internet publications, TV channels - all published an interview on this topic.
The mini-tank caused a real sensation.
The mayor of Lviv, Andrei Sadovy, the director of VEEM Metallavtoprom Bogdan Sapozhnikov, and of course the director of Mail Service Rostislav Pasechnik, all gathered in the assembly shop and gave each other interviews.





In front of the cameras, the amazed reporters demonstrated the qualities of their brainchild.


Meet the reconnaissance tank Pasechnika.
Yet one-eyed and without weapons.
Not visible "Polish armor for 3 thousand," and the shape of the hull is different.


It looks pretty cheap and rather miserable.
German self-propelled mines "Goliath" since the Great Patriotic War look much more solidly and impressively.


Self-propelled mine "Goliath" Sd.Kfz. 302 (1942 - 1944gg)



Inspection device of the Ukrainian military robot.


I am not an expert in military robotics, but I had to evaluate the video surveillance system for the oil terminal and oil refinery. For such objects it is required to install explosion-proof cameras according to the requirements of ТР ТС 012 / 2011.
As for optics (lens) - a separate topic for some money.
The developers guaranteed the work of the complex in snow, rain and in low light conditions. It is unlikely that this camera will be enough.
Looking for specialized cameras, each for the price of a SLR camera.
And then military equipment - and the usual IPTV camera.
In general, the story with the observation devices on the BMPT “Azovets” was repeated in this sample.


Very good angle. Whatever you say, it looks impressive.



Mini-tank effectively travels towards the group of guests.
Pay attention to the young man with a laptop in the right corner of the photo.
Most likely, it controls the robot via a WiFi connection.



Demonstration of payload.
Well, just skate on the tracks, and only ...



Demonstration of payload.
A mini-tank with an engine from a washing machine can carry two “passengers”.



Demonstration of the evacuation of the wounded.
As the saying goes, "It was smooth on paper, but they forgot about the ravines."
Pay attention to the stretcher and imagine the like on rough terrain, in real combat conditions.



Demonstration of terrain.
The prototype of the robot intelligence climbs the stairs.



Monsieur Pasechnik shows the mayor of Lviv how his tanchik works.
Pay attention to the control panel in the hands.



Tanchik control panel close-up.
Gamepad - full ATAS!


Already knowing how the story ends - I want to quote a phrase from the novel “The Twelve Chairs”:
When all passes were issued and the light was reduced in the lobby, Yakov Menelaevich remembered: these clear eyes, he saw this confident look in Taganskaya prison in the 1922 year, when he himself sat there for a trifling matter.


To be continued ...

Materials used:
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www.pohlyad.com/news/n/66860
svidok.ua/ru/news/article/2263-u-lvovi-rozrobili-radiokerovanij-vsjudihid
rian.com.ua/society/20160525/1010536374.html
mail-service.uaprom.net/about_us
nutmore.com/25829-smi-ukrainskiy-sozdatel-bespilotnogo-tanka-obmanul-zakazchikov-full.html
nevskii-bastion.ru/platform-m/
www.bbc.com/ukrainian/ukraine_in_russian/2015/02/150206_ru_s_peoples_tank_project

Lviv RoboCafe. Rostislav Pasechnik at the presentation of the platform БРАП-3.



In Lviv, presented a mini-tank, which can remove the wounded from the battlefield.
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  1. +14
    18 July 2016 12: 36
    Wow to myself! And this thing, too, with flags of Ukraine on the battlefield will be extinguished? How will this mini "Oplot" be pulled to the place of the "event"? Will they ride on it?
    1. +6
      18 July 2016 12: 43
      Well, you can go on top and distribute orders on Skype via webcam ..
      1. +11
        18 July 2016 12: 59
        In addition to a smile, this product does not cause anything.
        1. +2
          18 July 2016 13: 54
          Really laughed ...)))
          Painfully on the tanks of the First World War the entot "ShushPANzer" looks like!
          ... What will be invented further? Bayonet?!? )))
        2. 0
          18 July 2016 14: 14
          Quote: cniza
          In addition to a smile, this product does not cause anything.

          Yes, really - there is nothing to comment on.
          And the article does not add prestige to the VO site - what is the use of bantering on a worthless product?

          Why does the author omit to discuss this amateurish craft?

          Superfluous advertising of garbage.
          1. +2
            18 July 2016 22: 54
            Quote: iConst
            Superfluous advertising of garbage.

            This is not an advertisement for "bullshit" - this is "РЖАКА_РЖКА" laughing
          2. 0
            19 July 2016 00: 55
            Quote: iConst
            Quote: cniza
            In addition to a smile, this product does not cause anything.

            Yes, really - there is nothing to comment on.
            And the article does not add prestige to the VO site - what is the use of bantering on a worthless product?

            Why does the author omit to discuss this amateurish craft?

            Superfluous advertising of garbage.

            This is not a discussion or advertising of "bullshit", this is a real banter over those who, in all seriousness, listened to this O. Bender and threw themselves off on its production. If we consider this material as an advertisement, then you can't imagine better - let the kakly continue to spend money on such wunderwales, they will do less harm.
          3. 0
            19 July 2016 08: 08
            Quote: iConst
            Superfluous advertising of garbage.

            This is not bullshit, but fraud. The author of the project dumped along with the money and is wanted.
        3. +1
          18 July 2016 22: 53
          Quote: cniza
          In addition to a smile, this product does not cause anything.

          So the place of "invention" Lviv, st. heroes of the UPA - is there anything more worthwhile on such a street? And in general, it is a sin to laugh at the holy fools! laughing laughing laughing
          In fact, Poland is close by, we could have studied "Maly Modelarz" first (who can remember such a magazine?) - it would have been much better.
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      3. +3
        18 July 2016 13: 51
        New shushpanzer from Khokhlokutur out of a shoe box and stolen from the entrance of the surveillance camera! lol
        Purely neighing.
      4. PKK
        0
        18 July 2016 17: 20
        The other day, I dreamed about the same tank for the militias. But we have dreams, and dill really do. Young people. Take envy.
      5. 0
        19 July 2016 01: 19
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        Well, you can go on top and distribute orders on Skype via webcam

        Why on the webcam? There is also a joystick on the cable!
    2. HAM
      +8
      18 July 2016 12: 46
      A little ahead of me. I also thought that the most important thing on the dill is a flag !!
      1. +18
        18 July 2016 12: 55
        Quote: HAM
        the most important thing on the dill is the flag !!
        This artifact gives +100 defense and +80 stamina, not otherwise.
        Pan Pasichnyk has a very characteristic appearance. I won’t be surprised if he doesn’t answer calls, because he is now in the service area of ​​the Israeli mobile operator.
        1. +3
          18 July 2016 13: 19
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Pan Pasichnyk has a very characteristic appearance. I won’t be surprised if he doesn’t answer calls, because he is now in the service area of ​​the Israeli mobile operator.

          -----------------
          Yes, and the tank along the way without matzo does not work. wink
        2. +3
          18 July 2016 13: 24
          Ami du peuple hi
          This artifact gives +100 defense and +80 stamina, not otherwise.
          Pan Pasichnyk has a very characteristic appearance. I won’t be surprised if he doesn’t answer calls, because he is now in the service area of ​​the Israeli mobile operator.
          Yeah, and in the mini "Stronghold" this is exactly the "G PACE navigator" laughing feel
    3. +3
      18 July 2016 12: 52
      Quote: Observer2014
      Wow yourself! And this thing, too, with the flags of Ukraine on the battlefield will be extinguished?

      So in the flags is the whole point of the invention wink The enemy will see the flags and begin to surrender en masse or leave the fighting positions in a panic laughing
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    5. +1
      18 July 2016 12: 55
      Well, at least whoever can answer, why is this "robot" in the Square? Is it that Avakov and Poltarak, with a remote control in their hand, joke dogs on their site, or entertain guests? winked
    6. +4
      18 July 2016 13: 03
      Quote: Observer2014
      Wow yourself! And this thing, too, with the flags of Ukraine on the battlefield will be extinguished?

      Of course, without a flag, Ukrainian soldiers burst with laughter when they saw this laughing
    7. +3
      18 July 2016 13: 09
      AHA! And also to shine with might and main with your backlight diodes, and if they are even better in the IR range, it will be visible in any night vision device, for about 5 kilometers (and what YOU wanted in reconnaissance is always hard ;-)) !!! ... Hurray miracle developers, let the money of the European Union and amerikosov "master", and at least we will have some fun scent at their expense.
    8. +1
      18 July 2016 13: 26
      Here the main thing is the yellow-black flag, they magically destroy mines, and scare bullets and shells. tongue And do not laugh, it's still not what you thought about, the Svidomo brain is brilliant and it is undeniable.
      1. +1
        18 July 2016 14: 19
        Quote: juborg
        Hurray for a miracle for developers, let the money of the European Union and Americans "master",

        hi
        In fact, mastered the people's money.
        But more about that in other parts.
        The continuation will probably be tomorrow.
  2. +1
    18 July 2016 12: 40
    Wow, 'Dashing trouble is the beginning' - enough small things TERMINATOR give.
    1. +2
      18 July 2016 14: 22
      Quote: Teberii
      enough little things TERMINATOR Give.

      hi
      It will be about the Terminator.
      The Ukrainians tried to create a cheaper copy of the Russian complex "Platform-M".
      Continued in the following parts ...
  3. +12
    18 July 2016 12: 40
    The article was impressive! I haven’t neigh for a long time! In short, and this is the most important thing - the grandmas sawed and disappeared. I got an idea here too. It is necessary to offer the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine ...
    1. +4
      18 July 2016 12: 45
      Abbra hi Colleague I dare to suggest the name of the project of your "litaka" "Khokhlozamotay" laughing
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      2. +1
        18 July 2016 13: 00
        Or maybe the whole idea is in humor? There would come out scouring the battlefield with a bacon of fat over the side, looking like a tray. And what to do? To laugh or shoot? laughing
    2. +1
      18 July 2016 15: 07
      The idea is good, you can start collecting hryvnia for a set of LEGO.
      Aviation will appear.
  4. +2
    18 July 2016 12: 43
    Another funny story with ukrosomali.
  5. Riv
    0
    18 July 2016 12: 44
    It is necessary to teach this dance to say: "Heil Hitler!"
  6. 0
    18 July 2016 12: 47
    Everyone wants to cut dough for easy.
  7. 0
    18 July 2016 12: 48
    AHA! And also to shine with might and main with your backlight diodes, and if they are even better in the IR range, it will be visible in any night vision device, for about 5 kilometers (and what YOU wanted in reconnaissance is always hard ;-)) !!! ... Hurray miracle developers, let the money of the European Union and amerikosov "master", and at least we will have some fun scent at their expense.
  8. +4
    18 July 2016 12: 52
    bullshit. should not be posted on the site. in the section of humor or satire, there is a place for this material.
  9. +1
    18 July 2016 12: 54
    Could it be that Mavrodi, for an hour, having slightly changed his appearance, wants to bend his ears hanging?
    About the loss of energy, the bullet from the AK almost fell off the chair ...
    Our people, too, went through this, in the 90s, there were darkness and darkness of charlatans, and all of a sudden, everything hangs on a well-known channel
    1. 0
      18 July 2016 13: 12
      Mavrodi also reminded me)
  10. 0
    18 July 2016 13: 02
    Until new principles for storing electricity are invented, all this is nonsense. Only ICE but alas noisy.
  11. +1
    18 July 2016 13: 07
    And I liked it, especially about how they, from some kind of workbench, proudly named "guides" will burn the tanks-solid Buryat divisions hi
    1. 0
      18 July 2016 16: 11
      Yeah .... this "workbench" is not welded from the cemetery fence?
  12. 0
    18 July 2016 13: 13
    It’s ridiculous. Obul people are cunning, and washed off, I suppose? What is the amount of damage? Not voiced?
  13. +4
    18 July 2016 13: 18
    the joystick is with a cord. a blast wave may pass by this miracle, but the gamer will break it for sure.
    P / S / my neighbor says that his grill is gone and the cart. nobody saw?
    1. +2
      18 July 2016 13: 53
      When I was at school, on the labors in the 7 class they did something the same, from tin, with an electric motor, batteries, etc. I remember how I sharpened the track rollers on a lathe, how carefully I soldered the case ... Memories surged. I wish we had 70's video eyes and a mobile phone! Right Something revolutionary would have happened.
  14. 0
    18 July 2016 13: 28
    Damn, well, you found something to drag here ...
    We would also discuss the quality of embroidered shirts from different regions of Ukraine.
  15. +1
    18 July 2016 13: 28
    As I understand it, who is the war, and to whom is the mother dear ... and how can this wunderwolf be used in a real situation? .. I just imagine a soldier of Novorossiya sits and reports to the same Givi: Commander, what the fuck ... is crawling from the enemy there, it can bang ?. and of course they bang ... together with the operator .. if they write in Debaltsevo at the request of the company commanders, they beat the Grad battalion, and this is 18x40 = 720 shells and in 20 seconds (simultaneous detonation of 36 pieces per second, but almost 7 kg in each) .. then I can imagine what Givi will do seeing such an unknown, but clearly hostile .. think further ..
  16. +1
    18 July 2016 13: 29
    In some ways, he reminds me of Mavrodi. And the project on the military MMM looks like. Interestingly, the same profit as Mavrodi will be able to untwist?
  17. 0
    18 July 2016 13: 53
    He (Mavrodyushka) learned ukroyazyk on the bunk. TALENT!
  18. +1
    18 July 2016 14: 00
    Well done Jewish beekeeper, primitively, but profitably trolling and breeding ukrolohov.
  19. +2
    18 July 2016 14: 05
    Return the patient to the doctors!
    Maidan's head is progressing!
    1. 0
      18 July 2016 14: 21
      No need for doctors ... Ukrainians there something about the aircraft structure stuttered, it is necessary to send there for the development of the industry))))
  20. 0
    18 July 2016 14: 48
    Developing the future! Pintagon ginirals biting their elbows ate hands ...
  21. +1
    18 July 2016 15: 02
    Then the Lviv designers on the developments of this squalor will create robots from the shooter Wolfenstein The New Order wassat They have something to strive for:


  22. +1
    18 July 2016 15: 35
    Loot is sawed by everyone and sundry, but each on its own scale. Someone loans, and someone donations collected by volunteers from the ingenuous suckers. And this has nothing to do with the development of weapons.
    When all passes were issued and the light was reduced in the lobby, Yakov Menelaevich remembered: these clear eyes, he saw this confident look in Taganskaya prison in the 1922 year, when he himself sat there for a trifling matter.
  23. 0
    18 July 2016 16: 01
    That would be us! Salvage carry instead collectors. From cash to LLC.
    1. +1
      18 July 2016 16: 11
      Quote: Stinger
      That would be us! Salvage carry instead collectors. From cash to LLC.

      Aha
      On the way, just do not wrap in the pub wink
  24. +1
    18 July 2016 16: 16
    And gle speaker? From which the glory of Kramne shouts all the time? And something about the heroes?
    1. 0
      18 July 2016 16: 24
      Quote: sir_obs
      And gle speaker? From which the glory of Kramne shouts all the time? And something about the heroes?

      There will be a malyukalnik, and even ground firing from PKT.
      This is a continuation.
  25. +2
    18 July 2016 17: 07
    Why, I’m ready to purchase this, God forgive the device for myself. Rather, for my two boys, they are still small and can’t walk, but you can attach a cradle to this crap and control it using wi-fi)) And the children have fun and their father’s hands are free for beer))
  26. 0
    18 July 2016 17: 31
    Developer’s mistake: the flagpole is at least three meters and the flag is not a meter away. :-) That's it, I can’t read more today about the non-brothers, I ask the Moderators to limit one article a day about an independent one, is it not KVN?
  27. +1
    18 July 2016 17: 39
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    very characteristic appearance.

    Probably only Ukrainians do not notice how enchanting their Tziks are enchanting.
  28. +1
    18 July 2016 18: 53
    I read the article, reviews and was surprised. All these antics are incomprehensible to me. The impression is that I am the only one who was engaged in the manufacture of various homemade devices. The most "noticeable" of them was probably the lathe and copying machine. Its design is several times simpler than this mechanical scout. But even that required several months of work, several alterations. I tried about 100 cutters, it didn't work ... And then he worked for 15 years and supplied products to 30 stores ... I was a private entrepreneur. By the way, I'm not a mechanic at all, but a radio engineer. And I think that the author's ridicule about the advertising company is completely inappropriate. I don't see anything clown in the design.

    I want to say, as a practitioner, that half of the endeavors succeed, half do not. You won’t guess in advance. The designer in the manufacture must overcome three stages. The first is a moving skeleton. The second - when the skeleton is overgrown with meat. The third is licking, bringing to mind. Ukrainian inventors mastered two of the three stages. And they did well. The third stage is generally very few. Units. But there are always a lot of wise men scoffing at home-made.

    In fact. I think that the best solution as a camcorder would be a camera with a large optical zoom (x20). Photo cards of this class are built on stream, cheap, but have impressive capabilities.

    What is the practical value of this device? He has to carry an RPG-7 on board so that he can be of some use. The robot can do it. It carries much more, about 100 kg. If we make the robot smaller in size - a kind of self-propelled, multiply charged RPG-7 - then we can talk about replacing soldiers with such a thing in battle. Let's estimate. One robot will replace 10 fighters on the offensive. A soldier needs to pay half a million salaries in a year. If this robot costs less than 5 million rubles, then it looks promising. A light car is worth 0,5 million! And driving is much more difficult than a robot. With the mass production of small, cheap robots at 0,5 million apiece, they will be cheaper than even the maintenance of Ukrainian soldiers and will be able to ensure victory until the enemy comes up with counter-defense. A soldier can be killed even with an arrow from a bow. You can't damage a robot even with a pistol. If only the robot gets into the "eye" ...

    I believe that the future is just for mini and micro mechanical fighters and birds. Inventors took the right path. And the result? The road will be overpowered by a walker.
    1. +1
      18 July 2016 20: 29
      Quote: RosinMN
      And I think that the author's mockery about the advertising firm is completely inappropriate.

      The information technology industry is engaged in the creation, integration, sale and maintenance of information systems.
      Specialists in the field of information systems and technologies are called IT specialists.
      And companies that are engaged in information technology called IT-companies.
      I believe that the delivery of advertising booklets and tracking does not apply to IT.
      Exaggerating a bit I will ask: Do you think that DHL is an IT-company?

      Quote: RosinMN
      I think that the best solution as a video camera will be a camera with a large optical zoom (x20).

      A sensible offer. As they say, has the right to life.

      Quote: RosinMN
      Ukrainian inventors mastered two stages of the three.

      In the 4 part, there will be a story about the third stage. It is planned to machine a completely different level.

      Quote: RosinMN
      Fighter for the year must pay half a million salary.

      I believe that the teletank operator (as a specialist) should pay more.
      And if we assume that it takes two specialists to control the robot (one is responsible for controlling the robot, and the other for firing), we also add the salary of the weapon operator.
      Of course you can save money, but not in times.

      Quote: RosinMN
      One robot will replace the 10 fighters in the offensive.

      Purely theoretically - maybe.
      In practice, a repair base is required, spare parts stocks ...
      What to do if a tank has a caterpillar and the modified engine from a washing machine or gearbox fails?
      And if the receiving-transmitting equipment flies?
      Requires a specialist who is familiar with this technique.
      But the techie can be attributed to the question above (half a million salary).

      Quote: RosinMN
      If this robot costs less than 5 million rubles, it looks promising.

      It can not be brought to the mind of a robot cost so cheap.
      SWORDS cost $ 150-230 thousand (10-15 million rubles) was used in limited quantities in Afghanistan and Iraq and showed its inconsistency (friendly fire).
      Now they offer improved MAARS and it is not known how this will end.
      And these are products from QinetiQ - companies with multi-million annual turnover.

      Quote: RosinMN
      Road going by walking.

      Totally agree with you.
      You made a turning-copying machine, and I assembled a improvised conditioner from improvised means.
      Materials cost in 20 bucks.
      This, of course, is not a machine tool - but I haven’t raised anything heavier than a keyboard for a long time.
      hi
  29. 0
    18 July 2016 23: 03
    Just respect, neighing so the little daughter woke up ... The circus arrived ...
  30. 0
    19 July 2016 15: 02
    another govnotank from the series, give pennies
  31. 0
    20 July 2016 02: 13
    Quote: Mister X
    I believe that the teletank operator (as a specialist) should pay more.

    The operator sits in safety, unlike the soldier on the front line. He cannot receive more soldiers. The operator can be a wounded soldier in the hospital ... Even a boy-gamer of draft age will agree to become an operator for free.
    Quote: Mister X
    What to do if the tank has a worn caterpillar,

    Most often thrown away. I read that the service life of the T-34 tank engines was 100 hours. Machines involved in a combat collision do not live long. Repair service is needed, of course. But the costs are small. One repairman for 50 cars ...
    Quote: Mister X
    It can not be brought to the mind of a robot cost so cheap.

    I'm sure he can. The cost of the T-90 tank is 70 million rubles. The robot weighs 1000 times less. It is clear that the cost will not be 1000 times less, not 70 sput. But not 7 million. In fact, we need a kamikaze robot. I drove up to the range of a shot and attacked. You need a cheap design with a small manpower. RPG on wheels or on wings. In battle, the losses of equipment of the belligerents are approximately equal. If you knocked out someone else's tank, then you saved on buying your own tank. You don't need a robot with miracle capabilities. We need a miracle cheap robot. I saw the term "mosquito technology" in my interest. Yes, just the nearest future belongs to them.
    Quote: Mister X
    I collected improvised conditioner from improvised means.
    Materials cost in 20 bucks.

    So you will understand me. Looking at the history of technology, I noticed such a thing. Inventions, developments that did not go in due time, will now be effective. Because a different level of technology is coming. What used to be insanely expensive is now worth a penny. But the inertia of thought continues to believe that since this solution has been tried and has not gone, then there is nothing for them to deal with now. For example, the Germans were no dumber than us, making small radio tanks ... Not dumber, but they did not have small lithium batteries. There were no small communication systems. Electric motors were expensive. Gyros are expensive and bulky. Inertial systems did not exist ... In general, there were no video cameras and electronic brains ...

    I consider the device described in the article to be a turning point in military affairs. If we, the Russian army, do not come to our senses, then we will lag behind forever, as with computers, cameras, drones.

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