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How to win in football. Asymmetrical response

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Slutsky and football players admitted that they are shit. This is not true. Well, not exactly. All modern teams are about the same. Ours simply do not know what to do and how to win.




It is necessary to learn to win with A.V. Suvorov, who did not suffer a single defeat. He said: victory is won not by hands or feet, but by the soul. Suvorov attached great importance to training: “It’s hard to learn - easy in battle”.

The recipe for victory in modern football is the same - the psyche (“psychos” - the soul is in Greek) and physics. And they are interrelated. But there is a difference: physics is not so much in the sense of general physical training, but in the sense of the hormonal background of athletes. At the hormonal peak, football players can not even run, and fly across the field for several hours in a row without getting tired. The hormonal peak also gives the highest level of mental motivation. Those. it's even more chemistry than physics.

This is achieved either by doping or exercises with serious weights. Doping is not an option, which means weightlifting. And examples should be taken from the best. The coach of Real Madrid said that the best football player in the world - Cristiano Ronaldo - trains at the gym every day. Ronaldo himself publishes his pictures in a rocking chair with the words “no pain - no gain”, without pain there are no victories. And remember the pumped-up Robert Carlos, or the hero of our days - the Hulk. They understand that. Why do not our understand? Neither athletes nor coaches? The only coach who knew what was going on was Guus Hiddink. He said that victories are gained by sports spirit, and he gave two trainings a day. That was the result.

If you see a coach who says that the main thing in football is professionalism - then yes, this is not a coach, but shit. If he says that tactics, he may be smart, but does not understand the main thing. In this case, they certainly will not listen to us. After all, who understands football, except for them? But I am not writing about football.

Sometimes, to win, you have to go beyond the established system. It is asymmetrical answers that are the most effective - if our team spends 3-6 months in a gymnasium with a barbell, and does not drive the ball around the field - they already know how - it will achieve much more. Paradox - sometimes the team does not need to be allowed to rest on the eve of the game, but training is needed to increase hormonal levels. Then they will be able to break almost any opponent and score balls from the center of the field.

With such training, the age of a football player does not matter much, Ronaldo is not young either - 31 is a year. But he is still a deer. And Shirokov, and Arshavin, and Zhirkov, and other age athletes can be brought to a high hormonal level. Although, maybe, it is in these people that there is no need. Modern teams are all approximately equal in ability to possess the ball, but different in psychology and in the ability to control themselves.

Many countries have repeatedly shown what it means to beat the spirit. This is more important, but it needs to be supported by proper physical training. At the same time, of course, you need to invest money not in expensive football players, but in the development of children's football. It goes without saying. In this place it is necessary to convey greetings Mutko Frome May Hart.

There is no need to invite foreign coaches. Russians need to learn to win from Suvorov.

What is the strength in, brother? In truth. But you need to know the truth.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 15 July 2016 15: 45
    +2
    [quote] How to win in football. Asymmetric answer [quote] sorry for squeezing into the front rows, not in my rules, but tsuko is boiling ... "Claes's ash, knocking on my heart ..." so:
    1. Temples
      Temples 15 July 2016 15: 52
      +19
      physics is not so much in the sense of general physical fitness as in the sense of the hormonal background of athletes


      Do you understand what you said?

      Feet, wings ...
      The main tail !!!

      Who just did not write about football! All specialists!
      This is just a game.
      Just men kick the ball.
      Guys kick the ball all their conscious lives!

      But after all other men suffer from it !!! wassat
      Scary! fool

      Soon they will add to the fact that because of football and football players life in Russia does not go well.

      Beavers exhale time.
      1. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 15 July 2016 17: 50
        +12
        The article is so-so. From the cycle - in the country everyone knows how to play football, except for the coaches themselves and the players.
        Big football has long ceased to be a sport. This is a business where not everyone has a place. We have wonderful football schools for youth training, so what next? They are not interested in Miller and Giner when you can buy ready-made Hulk and Witsel. True, at the same time, the backbone of the team of Russian football players will fall apart, the national team will suffer - but who cares? All of these oligarchs simply have the fashion of owning a football club. Something like fabulously expensive obedient thoroughbred pets. The main thing is to feed. And if something is wrong, the owner disobeyed - on the street ...
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 15 July 2016 18: 50
          +11
          Quote: Stock Officer

          Big football has long ceased to be a sport. This is a business where not everyone has a place.

          Well, yes, before the rich watched the poor play football, now the poor watch how the rich drive the ball ...
          1. _Vladislav_
            _Vladislav_ 15 July 2016 22: 59
            +3
            Not, with all due respect, of course, but the author has come from the wrong side.

            first
            Pay attention to the monetary allowance of our players, annual income, here are just a few:
            1. Alexander Kokorin (Dynamo) - 5 million Oe

            2. Igor Denisov (Dynamo) - 4 million Oe

            3. Yuri Zhirkov (Dynamo) - 4 million Oe

            5. Andrey Voronin (Dynamo) - 3 million Oe

            6. Alexander Kerzhakov (Zenit) - 3 million Oe

            7. Vyacheslav Malafeev (“Zenith”) - 2,6 million Oe

            With that kind of money, give them your worries about the football successes of the national team, so ugh, don't care at all. And as soon as possible already fly out of the tournament and return home to the ruble. As Arshavin once said - he doesn’t give a damn to me, it’s your problem that you are worried there. Here he expressed the opinion of the majority, it was just that the majority had the mind not to extend to this topic.

            From reliable sources, I don’t advertise the person’s name, I’ll say that he is a transfer agent for one of the capital’s teams. $ 10 - so much is the place on the team for a soccer player playing in the Premier League. You can pay 000%, then from your annual fee people who added you will partially have it. And do not care if you were at least three times a great footballer, if you don’t have the money or people who could pay for you — if you don’t see the Premier League, not to mention the National Team, you won’t come close.

            Football in Russia today is primarily BUSINESS, and only then, like sports.
            And all tied sooooo deeply. A football player if with money he pays agents, agents pay the football federation, in the football federation other big uncles saw this money, and then the ministry of sports and so on.

            if our team spends 3-6 months in the gym with a barbell

            What? Which bar calm down. This is a business.
            1. efrolov
              15 July 2016 23: 34
              0
              OK. I heard about kickbacks, I don't know the details. I agree, the fans need to calm down, you can't want for others. If they don't want to, don't. And it's not that it hurts, the game - it is the game, or, let's say in your opinion - business is business. But why then all this performance of the team with the experiences of "shit, not shit"?
            2. Vitali-46
              Vitali-46 16 July 2016 01: 19
              +4
              Firstly, Kokorin has been playing at Zenith for a long time!
              Malafeev finished his career!
              Kerzhakov is still without a club!
              Voronin has not played in Russia for a long time!
              Zhirkov stands for Zenit!
              VLADISLAV! Why write in what are you zero ???
            3. Rezident007
              Rezident007 16 July 2016 11: 47
              +2
              .. at one time a well-known specialist in Germany advised Dmitry Sychev with "hardware" to start working every day when he was there with the team at the training camp ... So what happened ??? Dima became clumsy, clumsy, lost speed and maneuverability ... and became a dull homon on the field. The point here is not physics, but simply in relation to their profession and country. The player is trusted to play for the national team (population 144 million), but he fucking! Our wooden footballers have neither desire, nor will to win any valuable, nor pride, nor anything at all ... Cynical, arrogant, selfish (this is all to put it mildly, of course). It was disgusting to watch, as they put them in my pants. I don't care about theirs money to one place, but at least bitches won !!! And so - majors who smoke and drink booze - this is not a professional level, especially a TEAM !!!! It would be better if the young guys were released - they would at least run with excitement in their eyes, fight, fight to the end ... Lavrov's phrase will do here - "D * beats, f *** ing!".
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        2. Vitali-46
          Vitali-46 16 July 2016 01: 14
          +2
          According to your comment, I see that you are well versed in football! If we have so good football schools for training youth teams, is it worth buying legionnaires for fabulous money? Witsel is a Zenit player (the Hulk is already playing in China) And where is Giner ???
      2. efrolov
        15 July 2016 18: 37
        +4
        I understand exactly what I'm talking about, i.e. in physical condition and hormonal background. My friends, without him there are no more victories in big sport. Either dope or natural pumping. People from tenth positions came to our gym in their subtle cyclic sports and became champions of Europe and the world. And football is just a game, here you are absolutely right. And he is in Russia especially and to nothing. Well, since they’re taken, they should switch to new methods. And then again it turns out, Ronaldo and Hiddink are not a decree for us, we’ll crack the tattoos and are already heroes.
        1. Oprychnik
          Oprychnik 15 July 2016 20: 05
          +3
          Everyone knows how to play football, make diagnoses and treat people, how to properly educate all the current idiots. I’m not talking about military affairs. Thousand-Thousand! View-View! We have 100500
          vigorous warheads, everyone on their knees and pray!) And there will be players with their feet in the ball, everything is simple! To increase the "hormonal" background, specially trained people should hit the players with pre-prepared bamboo sticks on the heels before the game, painfully, but with some caution, without excessive self-harm. Firstly, the "hormonal" background rises, as the author has convinced us, and secondly , after that, the players on the field will not stop for fear of stepping on the broken heels, and the whole game, as our wonderful ballerinas will run on little chicks! In the end, the victory will be ours!)
          1. ALABAY45
            ALABAY45 15 July 2016 20: 28
            +1
            Are you communicating with us now ?! Or, quietly "lets go" ...?! repeatColleague...
          2. Oprychnik
            Oprychnik 15 July 2016 23: 45
            +1
            Hello and best wishes to our tourists in Turkey. According to the media, there was a military coup and the General Staff seized power ...
        2. Igor V
          Igor V 15 July 2016 20: 40
          +5
          Physical conditions, hormonal levels - all this is good, but football is a team game. Recently, in the game of our team, THOUGHTS are not visible. Stupid rolling across the field. It seems that none of the players do not need anything, they are just serving time. I’m lying, not to everyone, but one in the field is not a warrior. The coaching staff in the national team, where all the players are poorly played, is a framework on which every player must string everything he can, because they play for the flag of his country. And with us, either the coach can’t, or the players don’t want to. Directly revolutionary situation.
          Hiddink was able to put a thought into the game, after him there were less and less thoughts.
      3. family tree
        family tree 15 July 2016 18: 46
        +1
        Quote: Temples
        Beavers exhale time.

        Well, yes, still try to play the same start, although it is unlikely that here is business, it means maximum profit with a minimum of labor costs, which means excitement and fuse by
      4. jktu66
        jktu66 15 July 2016 19: 44
        0
        It's just a game
        rather, not even a game, but a show, and business of course. Estrada, mass cinema, TV programs, politics and all kinds of football there - everything is spectacular, emotional, well, and profitable.
      5. Tusv
        Tusv 16 July 2016 07: 46
        +1
        Quote: Temples
        Who just did not write about football! All specialists!

        Our football players lack equipment.
        A pair of tanks will definitely help
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 15 July 2016 16: 16
      +26
      [/ quote] just play ... play, for the Country, for the Anthem, for your People, for your City, for your Yard, for Neighbors, before whom you would not be ashamed, even if you had both legs broken, for a guy in a wheelchair who cried because of powerlessness because he could not sukk help the pecked ones ... yeah, fuck you ... you're in Monte Carlo ... ether. it’s unlikely that you will get the insult of the country ...
      1. Bath
        Bath 15 July 2016 16: 18
        +17
        Slutsky and football players admitted that they are shit. This is not true. How wrong? That's just it
        1. matross
          matross 15 July 2016 16: 33
          +16
          This team will not save neither weightlifting nor light! All of them should be excluded from the Russian team forever! So that it would be disgraceful to others! Bastards!
          1. bk316
            bk316 15 July 2016 18: 03
            +6
            Quote: matRoss
            All of them should be excluded from the Russian team forever!

            HER is not enough.
            They (the players) must be disqualified for life.
            Anyone works the way, but they don't come close to football
            But Slutsky, well, Slutsky, he also understood everything about Mr. G. and candy.
            1. aviator65
              aviator65 15 July 2016 19: 28
              +1
              Quote: bk316
              They (the players) must be disqualified for life.

              I agree! And not just disqualified, but with confiscation, at least "earned" by them over the past six months. am
              1. ALABAY45
                ALABAY45 15 July 2016 19: 39
                0
                Or maybe with chemical castration, well, for the future, so that not "mamaevs" or "kokorins" ...
                1. Revolver
                  Revolver 15 July 2016 21: 34
                  -1
                  Quote: ALABAY45
                  Or maybe with chemical castration, well, so, for the future, so as not to "mamaevs" or "kokorins" ... And let Ignashevich, they will be a judge!


                  Quote: "The meeting place cannot be changed"
                  Surgically, only surgically
            2. Lt. Air Force stock
              Lt. Air Force stock 15 July 2016 19: 54
              0
              Quote: bk316
              They (the players) must be disqualified for life.

              What disqualification? Football players are club assets, they can be profitably sold, at least to another Russian club or a CIS club. Nobody wants to lose money.
          2. PSih2097
            PSih2097 15 July 2016 23: 17
            +4
            Quote: matRoss
            This team will not save neither weightlifting nor light! All of them should be excluded from the Russian team forever! So that it would be disgraceful to others! Bastards!

            except for Akinfeev, he even tried, and if the defense is r ... but even the coolest goalkeeper will not pull out all the balls ...
        2. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 15 July 2016 16: 35
          +6
          I propose to make a square soccer ball in our country. That's when our players learn to play with a square ball, then with a round one we will tear everyone. laughing
          Quote: Bath
          Slutsky and football players admitted that they are shit.

          The case of Slutsky was: to make candy out of this shit (in which we are usually strong) did not work ...
          1. My address
            My address 15 July 2016 17: 27
            +17
            Hello, namesake hi .
            From me a joke:
            For our football players from the national team, a change has been made to the traffic rules. They are allowed to park under the "For the disabled" sign.
            1. ALABAY45
              ALABAY45 15 July 2016 19: 27
              +4
              And, when passing the gates of ADA, they all the same, will hit the post ...!
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 15 July 2016 20: 01
                +3
                Quote: ALABAY45
                And, when passing the gates of ADA, they all the same, will hit the post ...!

                And on the gates of PARADISE, to help Peter, it is necessary to put Yashin. Let them hang out, not here and there. am
            2. Ajent cho
              Ajent cho 16 July 2016 21: 05
              +1
              Quote: My address
              From me a joke:

              Average laughing
          2. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 15 July 2016 17: 34
            +3
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            I propose to make a square soccer ball in our country.
            I propose to ban football, and declare the national sport "rounders", "12 sticks" - (in principle, the Americans stole it from us), well, or "potato" ... also class ...
            1. ALABAY45
              ALABAY45 15 July 2016 19: 42
              +2
              Better, dominoes: "Have you finished ?! Finished !!! Well, and" goat "...!
            2. jktu66
              jktu66 15 July 2016 19: 51
              0
              propose to ban football
              I completely agree, why waste energy and money in vain, in Canada and Finland they understand this, and in Russia it's time to understand that Hockey is everything!
          3. ALABAY45
            ALABAY45 15 July 2016 18: 20
            +1
            And, before, there were: "Team of Lieutenants" - And, only, "coaches" of the Russian national team, manage to turn "candy" - into "shit"! It seems that they did not play badly, in the "youth team" .... And, how to turn them into shit is not a question for me ...
          4. Lt. Air Force stock
            Lt. Air Force stock 15 July 2016 19: 43
            +1
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            I propose to make a square soccer ball in our country. That's when our players learn to play with a square ball, then with a round one we will tear everyone.

            It is necessary that the football players in training matches run with backpacks behind the backs of 15-20 kilograms, in order to increase endurance, or to ride in high-altitude stadiums. Maybe at least then they will not be so lethargic on the field.
          5. Tersky
            Tersky 15 July 2016 20: 52
            +4
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            I propose to make a square ball in our country for playing soccer.

            yes ..., not a square but a parallelepiped, in the shape of a brick. Replace the football field with a construction site, there are "balls" to hell, let them kick. The salary is calculated from the number of kicks on the ball, the bonus is for a head goal ... wassat
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        4. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 15 July 2016 16: 42
          +5
          who knows how to handle notes: hit of the season - for convenience: key "-2"
          vst F # m

          F # m
          We have visited Euro a little.
          Bm
          Well, to hell with him, what now - do not live?
          F # m
          On a private plane in Monte Carlo.
          C # f # m
          There is some money - we will drink.

          Bm d
          Slovaks scored two plumes.
          EC # m
          In Marseilles were able to bounce.
          Bm d
          In Toulouse - the plot for p * rnuhi.
          C # m C #
          We can’t play - we will drink.

          Chorus:
          F # m bm
          Drink with Pavlik, drink with Pavlik.
          C # f # m
          With Mamaev dash - drink.
          F # m bm
          To drink with Shurik, to drink with Shurik.
          C # f # m
          With Kokorin dash - drink.
          F # m Bm C # F # m
          Drink with Pavlik, drink with Pavlik.
          F # m Bm C # F # m
          Drink with Pavlik, and drink with Mamaev.

          F # m
          Millions of Euros get
          Bm
          I don’t have so many toes
          F # m
          Better not play every year
          C # f # m
          Yes, and do not care, go fuck.

          Bm d
          We have so much money that we can.
          EC # m
          Football school open.
          Bm d
          But for us this is difficult with Pavlik.
          C # m C #
          Drink them better in Monaco.

          Chorus:
          F # m bm
          Drink with Pavlik, drink with Pavlik.
          C # f # m
          With Mamaev dash - drink.
          F # m bm
          To drink with Shurik, to drink with Shurik.
          C # f # m
          With Kokorin dash - drink.
          F # m Bm C # F # m
          Drink with Pavlik, drink with Pavlik.
          F # m Bm C # F # m
          Drink with Pavlik, and drink with Mamaev.

          F # m
          And with all the external pohizm
          Bm
          I love my country with my heart
          F # m
          Minus the truth is in patriotism
          C # f # m
          When the anthem always sounds I drink

          Bm d
          The whole country scolds as much as possible
          EC # m
          Dough so much in the club to lower
          Bm d
          And I will declare carefully.
          C # m C #
          That day we just started drinking.

          Chorus:
          F # m bm
          Drink with Pavlik, drink with Pavlik.
          C # f # m
          With Mamaev dash - drink.
          F # m bm
          To drink with Shurik, to drink with Shurik.
          C # f # m
          With Kokorin dash - drink.
          F # m Bm C # F # m
          Drink with Pavlik, drink with Pavlik.
          F # m Bm C # F # m
          Drink with Pavlik, and drink with Mamaev.
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 15 July 2016 17: 16
            +1
            Sorry, but THIS is already in the people, and they hate to sing ... Kokorin and Mamaev among friends, it is forbidden at the level of mat-money to the bank ...
          2. Manul
            Manul 16 July 2016 10: 30
            0
            laughing All - I take the guitar and learn the text.
        5. passing
          passing 15 July 2016 22: 32
          +2
          Not quite so, Slutsky said this, but these games do not feel guilty. As one of them said - "he is not ashamed"
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 15 July 2016 16: 42
        +5
        [Quote] Andrey Yuryevich hi (5) Today, 16:16 ↑ [quote]] just play ... play, for the Country, for the Anthem, for your People, for your City, for your Yard, for Neighbors, before whom it would not be a shame, even, if you had both legs broken, for the kid in the wheelchair, who was crying because of powerlessness, because he could not sukku you help the pecked ones ... yes, I’ll give you a fuck ... you're in Monte Carlo ... ether.
        ] A colleague can, instead of your correct words! Maybe with all his heart, in the horny compartment of our "pop-crawling guesses" it is worth printing repeat
      3. m262
        m262 15 July 2016 20: 04
        +1
        Yes, just snickering! Why bother if life is a success?
        Set a condition: There is a result, there is a salary! No - for "reforging" to the foundry, for knocking out or forming, for 3 months! And the result will be! Judging by myself, after the technical school I scored to study, that's enough ... Nafig to enter the university ... My father was a technical assistant, arranged for a vacation, the salary is not bad, but the work ... EXAMINATIONS FOR 4 and 5, 5 years increased scholarship! And you say motivation!
        1. Lt. Air Force stock
          Lt. Air Force stock 15 July 2016 20: 09
          0
          Quote: m262
          To put a condition: There is a result, there is a salary!

          So in clubs and the national team there are bonuses for winning a team in a single match, thousands of euros if I am not mistaken for everyone. Does not help.
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      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 15 July 2016 20: 23
        +3
        Quote: Very old
        I can not play football.
        You do not know how to play football.

        Our football players do not know how to play football better than anyone.

        Here, after every failure at the World or European Championship, they change the coach, forgetting that the players are playing on the field, not the coach, although in fact what can he change in the game? In various newspapers and in the comments, some write, "Slutsky is to blame for not teaching him how to play." But the task of the head coach is not to teach to play, to learn to play in the football academy. The task of the head coach is to determine the readiness of a particular football player for the upcoming match, respectively, depending on the readiness to form the starting line-up for a particular match, to work out the tactics of the game. A professional footballer should by default have good stamina and the ability to handle the ball, giving accurate passes, reading the game ahead and hitting the ball accurately.
        1. Very old
          Very old 15 July 2016 20: 36
          0
          Stock Lieutenant - to Head Coaches! (Thanks!) hi
    5. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 16 July 2016 12: 03
      0
      How to win in football?
      Hire blacks! Look at the French team. laughing

      And if, in addition to jokes, everything is achieved simply - WHAT YOU TRAIN / DOWNLOAD AND DEVELOP!

      You swing your arms - arm muscles grow, legs remain thin. You swing both parts and then both will develop. But in life, they always pay less attention and time to something. In sports, for example, Russia "pumps" more Olympic, and among them are winter sports, boxing and wrestling. Hockey "rocks" better than football, but still not the same level. Europe is mainly rocking in three mainstream sports, often highlighted and income-generating. These are football, tennis and cycling. Everything else is sponsored. Those. if someone does not sponsor you, then all your career is over. Why, for example, Brazil is playing well. Argentina, Chile. Because apart from this sport there is practically nothing "swing". No choice. All beggars are trying to break into the "light" through football. That's why there is so much attention. Therefore, if football is so important, then you need to download it. Moreover, he brings income and does not sit on subsidies. After bread, people have always paid for the spectacle since the days of ancient Rome.
      How to "download" football ?:
      1) All RFL games are held as well as the Premier League, La Liga or Bundesliga. Those. the same schemes, methods of selection. (Despite the winters, do not interrupt, build indoor stadiums)
      2) There are no limits on foreign players; to learn to play with them interconnected
      3) PR for their to take in their League
      4) Corruption - kill, zero match-fixing.
      5) Conduct trainings as there - run all 120 minutes (swing legs to the level of Roberto Carlos), punch penalty kicks, devote a lot of time to working with the ball, precise short passes (tiki taka), long passes through the entire field. Use sweeping attacks.
      6) Well, and hope that all this helps laughing
      1. Ajent cho
        Ajent cho 16 July 2016 21: 31
        0
        Quote: Max_Bauder
        Corruption - kill, zero match-fixing.

        Always liked people who, in spite of everything, continue to believe in a brighter future. smile
  2. sever.56
    sever.56 15 July 2016 15: 50
    +24
    It is less to pay this redneck who dared to put on T-shirts with the emblem of Russia, and to keep them out of a cannon shot even at the gates of the national team's training base. We have a lot of talented, young, non-obsessed football players, for whom getting into the national team is a great honor, and they will not play for a bunch of bucks, but because “The honor of the flag is not just words for them. That's the whole asymmetric answer.
    And the former team was recruited not according to sports principles, but according to preferences and under the pressure of the same football “godfathers”, such as “Tsskovskiy” Ginner. Nothing else can explain the appearance of brakes in defense - Ignashevich, Berezutsky and greyhound Golovin in midfield.
    1. vinc
      vinc 15 July 2016 16: 19
      0
      Well, now, against the background of the soiled FSB FSHnikov, our football players are just kittens. wassat
    2. DarkMatter
      DarkMatter 15 July 2016 17: 25
      +9
      Squeezed redneck is a product of this system.
      When in the children's sections, teams are not played by promising guys, but whose rich parents "agreed".
      Children and youth coaches receive not a salary, but a pittance, even compared to a cleaning lady in Gazprom. And sometimes they don’t get it.
      With all this, in St. Petersburg, the stadium is the most expensive in the world, moreover, for 8 years and still they can not build it. Every time about this or other cases (Vostochny, Vasilyeva + Taburetkin and others), I catch myself thinking this is PETER, where are the Matvienki all sorts, where is Putin, where are the relevant authorities? This is not a traffic light in Mukhosansk, the whole world knows about it, looks and laughs. Why don't they do anything?

      If you go back to children's football, even if somehow the child began to show good results for his age, then he immediately receives such a contract from a strong team that by the age of 20 he can buy himself a Ferrari or Lamborghini, not counting apartments and everything else. He already has more than 99% of visitors to this site. I think it’s not worth saying that this has a very strong effect on the fragile psyche of an 18-20 year old guy.
      They came up with a limit that every time they change like gloves for the sake of ONLY conditional CSKA, Zenit and so on, when they have a lot of Russians in their composition - legionnaires made one cool shot, when it gets fewer - everyone knows everything about it. But the conditional Kokorins are to blame, which are just stupid, lazy and rich boys - no more, no less.
      And people like Mutko sit as if to the side and comment in the same way as we do - it does not seem to concern him!!!
      Know criminals, comrades.

      And the article, by the way, is a minus - one populism and what fantasies from the sofa, which bar and more. A man probably understands football when every 4 years 2 weeks he watches a couple of matches on channel 1, about the same level, but he’s climbing to open America, now he’ll make all the champions and, as before, didn’t think of it)))
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 15 July 2016 21: 14
        +5
        Quote: DarkMatter
        And people like Mutko sit as if on the sidelines and comment in the same way as we do - it does not seem to concern him !!!

        Do not bother Mudko to make predictions for the Olympics. repeat He is a very busy person. fellow Although the squid Paulus is far from him. what
    3. avia12005
      avia12005 15 July 2016 17: 26
      +2
      It is to blame for the matches of the clubs where they play, the players of the Russian national team-2016 are crawling across the field, not buying tickets. FROM the word "absolutely". Let them go and kick the ball on the porch.
    4. KSLip
      KSLip 15 July 2016 20: 42
      -1
      Quote: sever.56
      We have a lot of talented, young, non-obsessed football players, for whom getting into the national team is a great honor, and they will not play for a bunch of bucks, but because “The honor of the flag is not just words for them.

      yeah. and then they will not be young anymore, it turns out that there’s no talent, and since they called the national team, the clubs poke their loot in the pockets ... how not to go wild?
      Quote: sever.56
      And the former team was recruited not according to sports principles, but according to preferences and under the pressure of the same football “godfathers”, such as “Tsskovskiy” Ginner. Nothing else can explain the appearance of brakes in defense - Ignashevich, Berezutsky and greyhound Golovin in midfield.

      for spam, you see, you flood ... I wonder, who do you think Slutsky should have put? from spam 2 to dial "young, talented and not snickering?
  3. dmitrymb
    dmitrymb 15 July 2016 15: 57
    +1
    keep the ball, individual skill must be at its best, clear passes, the adoption of the ball, the only way you can distract the opponent for the successful work of the team ... of course, within the reasonable, interests of the whole team, not flirting. The ball bounces off from our players, but no one canceled the dribbling, the ball does not hold, it seems that they scored a team and it does not matter what they play. For some reason, the leaders of Russian football do not pay attention to this, it is not only the players - the system !!!
    1. sq
      sq 15 July 2016 16: 07
      +5
      Professional football, hockey and so on on the list is the same job as plowing, making something at the factory and so on. And our athletes clearly consider their occupation as entertainment. On TV there was a program about Maradona, as he plows at the stadium for 8 hours, every day. Compared with ours, which are often seen in restaurant bars ... For some reason, I was not surprised.
      1. Temples
        Temples 15 July 2016 16: 36
        +2
        Professional football, hockey and so on on the list - this is the same job as plowing, making something at the factory and so on


        Seriously?

        And the result?

        Plowing - as a result, the farmer feeds himself and people.
        The factory will produce the necessary thing on the farm.
        For example, a plow for a plowman or a tractor.

        And what will a football player give you in the end?

        And our athletes clearly consider their occupation as entertainment.


        So there is sir.
        They are right.
        Froze at the expense of fans to see it.
        Can you compare pornstars with workers in villages and factories?

        It’s time for the other TV fans to realize that football is no different from Santa Barbara or Slave Isaura.
        Show Business.

        You just bred for money.

        From the realization of this fact, you can put me a billion cons.
        1. Temples
          Temples 15 July 2016 16: 57
          0
          On TV there was a program about Maradona, as he plows at the stadium for 8 hours, every day.


          So how?
          except the lawn, what didn’t come up?

          "On TV there was a program about Maradona" as this "plowman" smelled drugs.
          Apparently tired.
          After eight hours of plowing the field.
          Or sniffed first, and then plow!
          Only the plow forgot at home.
        2. Vitaly72
          Vitaly72 15 July 2016 18: 01
          +1
          What time? Santa Barbara ? And for example, Geshpans or Portuguese are also entertainment? It can be seen, they die on the field, but fight to the last
        3. dauria
          dauria 15 July 2016 20: 03
          0
          Show Business.

          You just bred for money.


          Listen to you, so we have half the country will become unemployed. laughing

          ... trouble is direct. There is no one to plow .... wink

          Look easier. Porn films are also a business, and "dirty". But many people are looking to see if you like it or not. wink So why our football is worse than pornography ? Just do not show it to children under 18 ...
      2. V.ic
        V.ic 15 July 2016 18: 00
        +3
        Quote: kvm
        hockey and so on on the list is the same job as plowing

        Some Canadian journalist attended the training of our guys in Canada, before the first meeting in 1972. He was surprised how the Russian "amateurs" led by Bobrov trained. As they fell, did push-ups ... in short, all the elements of strength training. That is why they RIPPED the professionals, like Tuzik a heating pad.
      3. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 15 July 2016 19: 48
        +1
        Quote: kvm
        - it's the same job as plowing

        Well, even the players by the age of 35 have many fractures, ligament breaks, etc.
    2. Karasik
      Karasik 15 July 2016 16: 55
      +2
      Quote: dmitrymb
      ... to keep the ball, individual skill must be at its best, clear passes, taking the ball, this is the only way to distract the opponent for the successful work of the team ... of course, within the reasonable, interests of the whole team, do not flirt ...

      This is achieved by daily training of a single team, TEAM. The same team must fight at the championships, without outside injections (different invited "stars"). Football is primarily a team game, the task of the coach is to place the players in the position so that everyone can prove themselves with the greatest efficiency for the whole team.
      Quote: dmitrymb
      ... it's not just about the players - the system !!!

      Why do Brazilians play better? Do they have more legs or 2 heads each? And because football is in their blood since childhood. Children in the courtyards are playing football, albeit on some semblance of a field, albeit the goal is not clear from what, and the ball is "not according to Feng Shui." But they are playing! The best gift for a kid is not an iPhone with an iPad and other Ay ..., but a soccer ball! So these guys grow into real football players.
      We need to develop children's football, a youth sports school (remember, children's and youth sports schools, and they still exist and are in dire need of funding), and build football fields. Football players need to be "raised" so that they are not as embarrassed as at EURO 2016.
    3. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 15 July 2016 19: 53
      0
      Quote: dmitrymb
      The ball bounces off from our players, but no one canceled the dribbling, the ball does not hold, it seems that they scored a team and it does not matter what they play.

      But not so long ago there were good footballers, for example: Karyaka, Tikhonov, Saenko (by the way, Saenko ended his career early in 26 years). Yes, not the level of Messi or Ronaldo, but at least something. Now there are no such players.
  4. APASUS
    APASUS 15 July 2016 15: 59
    +31
    I’ll tell you a story from my own life. (There is no need to give names, I did not ask permission from people)
    I had one friend and her son was obsessed with football. As it should be, they give him to the Zenit sports school, as it should be first children, juniors, then the youth and now go to the main team of Zenit. There are only two places. One went to the son of the coach, another Dad paid the businessman. Everything.
    Now the guy is playing Germany.
    This is me to how rotten the system! The trainers who sell seats in the main squads. The minister who (Mudko) is not fish, not meat, cannot really explain the reason.
    We collect children’s SMS for operations, and this squad of long-legged boys receives guaranteed remuneration from Gazprom.
    Change the system
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 15 July 2016 19: 50
      0
      Quote: APASUS
      This is me to how rotten the system! The trainers who sell seats in the main squads. The minister who (Mudko) is not fish, not meat, cannot really explain the reason.

      + More contractual matches, when you don’t really have to try hard.
  5. Verdun
    Verdun 15 July 2016 15: 59
    +22
    I didn't really understand what football has to do with VO, but since such a booze started ... Once my father, who was seriously involved in sports himself, told me a simple thing. All victories of our hockey team will end exactly when there are no guys who have passed through the Tarasovskaya "Golden Puck". For the basis of any sport is working with children, raising generations that come to replace them. I was still young and stupid then and could not fully understand the validity of these words. But now I see how right dad was. In the days of the USSR, only there would be a desire - go, guys, and train. Free, even if not for the sake of great sporting achievements, but for the sake of your own physical shape. Today such training is a matter of money, and a lot of money. Our sports managers, including football managers, prefer to purchase, with rare exceptions, a ready-made product - legionnaires of various kinds. At the same time, there is a point of view that looking at how these legionnaires play in our teams, the young generation will have a desire to go and train. But in most cases there is nowhere to go. And until the work with youth is resumed in full, no victories in football should be expected. And it doesn't matter which of the coaches will head the national team - Slutsky or Guss. They have to work with ready-made material. And the material, as Slutsky correctly said, g ...
    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 15 July 2016 16: 20
      +8
      Quote: Verdun
      And until work with youth is fully resumed, no victories in football should be expected.


      Not only in football, this applies to all spheres of activity in the state. During the Soviet era, there was a good slogan: "Children are our future." Where is all this now ?!
      1. Temples
        Temples 15 July 2016 17: 04
        -5
        During the Soviet era, there was a good slogan: "Children are our future." Where is all this now ?!

        Good to oversleep.

        But aren’t the children who were brought up in the USSR divided, drank?
        Maybe not everything was so cool with the education that they could not keep the country?
        Or it’s not us, then the neighbors have blown it all away, but we have nothing to do with it?

        Previously, cabbage soup was thicker, the grass was greener, the mirrors were true.
        And the soccer gods were running along that green grass!
        Beauty !!!
        1. Verdun
          Verdun 15 July 2016 17: 21
          +6
          Quote: Temples
          Previously, cabbage soup was thicker, the grass was greener, the mirrors were true.
          And the soccer gods were running along that green grass!

          Of course, we played football worse than hockey, and yet, I refer to the results of the performances of the USSR national football team.
          World Championships

          4 place at the 1966 World Championship (coach - N. Morozov)

          European Championships

          1960 European Champion (coach - G. Kachalin)
          silver medalist of the European Championship 1964 (coach - Beskov K.I.)
          silver medalist of the European Championship 1972 (coach - A. Ponomarev)
          silver medalist of the European Championship 1988 (coach - V. Lobanovsky)

          Olympics

          champion of the Olympic Games 1956 (coach - Kachalin G. D.)
          champion of the Olympic Games 1988 (coach - Byshovets A.F.)
          1972 Olympic Games bronze medalist (coach - A. Ponomaryov)
          1976 Olympic bronze medalist (coach - V. Lobanovsky)
          1980 Olympic bronze medalist (coach - K. Beskov)
          Any questions?
          1. V.ic
            V.ic 15 July 2016 20: 19
            +2
            Quote: Verdun
            Any questions?

            There is! Final Olympic Games 1988 USSR - Brazil 2: 1, Seoul October 1, 1988
            1. Verdun
              Verdun 15 July 2016 21: 06
              +1
              Quote: V.ic
              There is! Final Olympic Games 1988 USSR - Brazil 2: 1, Seoul October 1, 1988

              This is not a question, but an answer.
          2. V.ic
            V.ic 15 July 2016 20: 50
            +2
            Quote: Verdun
            Any questions?

            There is. On October 1, 1988, after about 15-00 local time, our squadron was disbanded until the evening formation. The crowd rushed towards me to watch the extra time. The authorities watched separately, the soldiers, including those entering the outfit, separately, and the whole squadron was packed into my REO group. There was a Soviet TV under repair, with a failed color discrimination chip. I started the color by jumpering the jumper with tweezers (periodically). Mikhailichenko's goal was noted with a loud scream. 2: 1. Ours won. SGV / Shprotava / v / h p / p 32937 / "Square" /
        2. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 15 July 2016 18: 39
          0
          Quote: Temples
          But aren’t the children who were brought up in the USSR divided, drank?

          fool fool
    2. Very old
      Very old 15 July 2016 20: 45
      +2
      "Golden washer"
      "Leather ball"
      In our village, the stadium was built by the former chemical plant. The plant collapsed with the arrival ...
      The stadium today - as in the early 90s Burian, desolation

      Hockey box abandoned
      1. Verdun
        Verdun 15 July 2016 21: 14
        +1
        Quote: Very old
        The stadium today - as in the early 90s Burian, desolation

        Hockey box abandoned

        First hit the Carpet in the mid-nineties. Whoever doesn’t know, during the times of the USSR, we were the repeated European motorbike champions (there were no world championships) - there is such a sport that was born in 1930 in France when the ball is driven on motorcycles. And the team that existed under ZiD was the basis of the national team. At first I didn’t even understand what I see. From the large and once well-groomed stadium there was only one skeleton. Everything is stolen - the benches of the stands, fences ... And the fact that once there were such motorcycles as Kovrov and Voskhod, young people today no longer remember.
        1. Very old
          Very old 15 July 2016 21: 43
          +1
          I saw the motoball only on TV - the ball is huge, almost up to the knee of the player "tall"
          M-103 is my first, still remember the saddle on the springs
          1. Verdun
            Verdun 15 July 2016 22: 20
            +1
            Quote: Very old
            M-103 is my first

            M-103 is Minsk. for the sake of interest, I went to their site - the plant is now called Motovelo - alive! He collects something under a license, does something himself. Motorcycles, mopeds, scooters, snowmobiles ... And with us? once scooters - scooters according to the present - made Vyatka, Tula, in Kovrov and on IzhMash motorcycles riveted. And now - shish yes kumysh ...
            1. FIREMAN
              FIREMAN 15 July 2016 23: 35
              +1
              Alive is alive, and then by chance. In 2007, they gave it to the Austrian company ATEC Holding Gmbl, which was controlled by a Belarusian businessman Alexander Muravyov, in exchange for investments, and he began to sell the plant’s assets on the sly, but did not have time. In the end, GeBe intervened and opened a criminal case.
              During his activity at Motovelo, the investor actually liquidated most of the existing production facilities. KGC even cites specific figures that more than 2 thousand units of equipment were sold, which is why the workshops are now empty. At the same time, the controllers focus on the fact that in a number of cases the equipment was sold at the price of scrap metal. Only here, according to KGK estimates, "Motovelo" suffered damage in the amount of more than 25 billion Belarusian rubles. rubles.
              http://ej.by/news/companies/2015/07/09/delo-motovelo-za-chto-realno-arestovali-a



              lexandra-muraveva.html

              And so the plant works, it seems that they even found money for new equipment instead of the one sold. In Belarus, they don't give "conditionally" for this - only a real term.
    3. Manul
      Manul 16 July 2016 10: 34
      0
      exercises with serious weights. Doping is not an option, which means weightlifting. And examples should be taken from the best.

      Quote: Verdun
      Once my father, who himself was seriously involved in sports, told me a simple thing. All victories of our hockey team will end exactly when there are no guys who have passed through the Tarasovskaya "Golden Puck". For the basis of any sport is working with children, educating the next generation.

      Everything has been said, I can only video in the topic.

  6. Yeraz
    Yeraz 15 July 2016 16: 05
    +4
    All factors are important.
    On the euro, purely from a physical point of view, Russia was inferior. The game with England, the team and there aren’t nearly such high-speed players as the English. Vision of the field and much more.
    And of course a lot of money.
    Such money is appropriate if the championship is strong.
    There is Iceland, the salary level is ridiculous, but this is right because their championship is at the level of this money. But the players exceeded expectations. This desire to win was simply transmitted through TV, and there was NOTHING on the faces of Russian football players.
    1. Altona
      Altona 15 July 2016 20: 21
      0
      Quote: Yeraz
      Such money is appropriate if the championship is strong.

      ---------------------
      This is a purely Azerbaijani habit of measuring everything for money. 10 million greens with us and they have completely different money. We can multiply by two in terms of obtaining services and goods-food and communal, housing prices. I am in this regard, and not about the prices of Mercedes AMG. FOOTBALL DOES NOT PLAY MONEY! PEOPLE PLAY FOR HONOR OF THE COUNTRY!
    2. Manul
      Manul 16 July 2016 14: 27
      0
      Quote: Yeraz
      There is Iceland, the salary level is ridiculous, but it’s right because their championship is at the level of this money. But the players exceeded expectations.

      It is strange that no one remembered the 1998 game, when Iceland beat us 1-0 in Reykjavik. Even then, we recognized that everyone learned to play, and Iceland is quite a football team.
  7. pavelty
    pavelty 15 July 2016 16: 06
    +6
    I read the headline, I thought that it was asymmetric enough, with the ability of our foot-players, to break Ronaldo’s leg. There are few other options))
  8. Million
    Million 15 July 2016 16: 09
    +2
    still to deal with corruption in the football department ...
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 15 July 2016 16: 30
      +5
      ... I would have to deal with corruption in the country, then the problems with football will disappear on their own ...
  9. prior
    prior 15 July 2016 16: 10
    +4
    When the ball is chased in the yard on the sports ground - this is football.
    And when at the stadium - this is a business show. No difference with the stage. What is the difference Eurovision or championship
    Europe. It is not necessary to have a voice, you can listen to the "plywood", you don't have to run and score - everything is paid for.
    I watched the show, paid the money. All!
    And what about football?
  10. sl22277
    sl22277 15 July 2016 16: 14
    +8
    Our footballers need to be hit on what is most dear to them - money. Maybe then they will start to play, and not engage in "walking" with a round ball. I think the problem is in the footballers themselves. Do not look for reasons to justify the inability, and most importantly, unwillingness to work and win.
  11. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 15 July 2016 16: 16
    0
    I actually had a feeling that the last match at the European Championship was a concrete agreement!
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 15 July 2016 16: 38
      +3
      Yeah, it’s just an agreement, especially if you look at our bow-legged, weak and reckless football players!
      Just paid it, as always, and for some reason, we Russians.
  12. Altona
    Altona 15 July 2016 16: 45
    +3
    If there is nothing more to strive for, like our expensive ball applications, then at least no button press, you will not get the result. They have neither motivation nor desire. There is not even elementary ethics for their fans either. We flew to the airport, ran past the fans without turning our heads, as if past an empty seat. Strained through clenched teeth "this is our ceiling" or whatever, and left to rest, posting on Instagram a photo of their bags from Louis Vuitton.
  13. Palch
    Palch 15 July 2016 16: 46
    +2
    Class .... one pancake to tie to the chest, the second on the back and drive 90 minutes to raise the hormonal background .... complete bullshit. Zaborivaya grass.
  14. forester
    forester 15 July 2016 16: 50
    +3
    But it’s a pity that it’s not the 37th. We couldn’t win gold at the stadium, we would go and get it in Kolyma
  15. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 15 July 2016 16: 54
    +2
    Slutsky simply ran into when he decided to train these lazy pedestrians. And the fact that everyone else was playing shabby - this is also mildly said.
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 15 July 2016 17: 28
      +2
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      Slutsky simply ran into when he decided to train these lazy pedestrians. And the fact that everyone else was playing shabby - this is also mildly said.


      But goals were scored for us, like suckers, especially Slovaks. And 4 goals in the last two matches - from the right-back zone. Well, here’s what one Smolnikov did in this position; This is either gaps in football education, or pissed pants, in any case, the team has nothing to do. But he would have rolled with him - you see, they would have crawled out of the group on four wheels, so that they would be completely complete in 1/8. But the report would go upstairs - the task is completed, they left the group. Ugh on them, on all wholesale, involved in this swine! am
    2. DarkMatter
      DarkMatter 15 July 2016 17: 59
      0
      when I decided to train

      There is an opinion that he did not decide anything. Everything was discussed long ago by Ginner and Mutko (for the goodies from Mutko, which, well, there are different options to choose from repeat ) And that he will leave after the champ was known to everyone for a long time who is interested in football.
  16. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 15 July 2016 16: 56
    +1
    And if from my comment they removed the word gov-but ???
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 15 July 2016 17: 02
      0
      Quote: Expelling Liberoids
      And if from my comment they removed the word gov-but ???

      It just stinks ..))) laughing
  17. shadow
    shadow 15 July 2016 17: 01
    +1
    How to win in football? Answer: FEET AND HEAD.
  18. ingenera
    ingenera 15 July 2016 17: 03
    +7
    What "physics"? What is the "chemistry"? The author wrote: They know how to chase the ball ... "This is what they do not know how. They cannot stop, skillfully handle, give an accurate pass at last. Hit from the air is a problem. Just hitting the goal is a problem. They have forgotten how to do that. what did they do in the youth team. What's the use of running around the field like moose if you can't control the ball? He (the ball) bounces off them like from a telegraph pole - in any direction, just not in the right place. in addition to raising his spirits, the soldier taught how to fight (and knew how to do it himself.) Somehow I think so.
  19. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 15 July 2016 17: 04
    +2
    These, um, footballers, and for me so woodcutters, nothing will help and no one. The power, brother Frolov, is to screw up the whole system from top to bottom, starting with the grabbers of children's coaches, who are by no means the best on the field. Then these not the best crawl out to the level of the national team, and the ball bounces off them like a brick, because they were engaged and played in the gardens, what a nafig technique - hit-and-run, in the championship of the region, region, region you need to be in "prizes", but then the coach will remain without bonuses, and the hmyrs from the local sports committee (or whatever these sharags are called today) will be screwed up for shortcomings. And so on from the top downward, by the property of transitivity.
    The coaches of the national team clubs are generally a separate topic. It's like a carpenter and a carpenter - different professions, although both work with wood. All the now famous coaches studied according to Lobanovsky's notes, then moved far forward, and ours, as they were vaska from the brewery, remained the same. And who is at the head of all this disgrace? Well, of course, the unsinkable Chubais from sports. In fairness - he is not alone, there is a whole gang of them. And ask questions, right away: "What am I, I am nothing, I am generally here not long ago." ...
    1. efrolov
      15 July 2016 23: 50
      +1
      {The strength, brother Frolov, is to screw the whole system from bottom to top}

      This, brother iliitchitch, is a superpower.
  20. K-50
    K-50 15 July 2016 17: 14
    +4
    With such salaries and "buns", it seems to me that the players treat their duties as a pleasant pastime. If received min. salary and plus a solid bonus for a positive result of the game, then the incentive to give all the best in each game to the fullest would be more significant. And so, they came, showed themselves, portrayed something, the salary was millions, plunked in the casino and let's go home.
    Miners plow like "blacks" and what is the salary?
    Under the USSR, the players received as on average in production, plus they were constantly pressed "if you do not give a result - you will go to the machine" and therefore the guys plowed like in "the last battle".
    Now it’s not the players - majors, to show themselves and others to see. And to be honest it’s disgusting to look at such people, some show-offs and no sense. request negative
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 15 July 2016 18: 14
      +1
      Quote: K-50
      With such salaries and "goodies", it seems to me that the players treat their duties as a pleasant pastime.


      How much in the national team and how much in the club these babloeders get - two big differences. The team for them is like an elective, with homies to drink beer. And soon the world championship, at home. So we won Sochi-2014, so 5 out of 13 gold medals were brought to us by a Korean and an American, but such a number won't work in football, you won't play there with a change of citizenship. Maybe take into account the experience of the North Korean comrades - to close these poor (there are no others) somewhere on the plateau, and not to let them out until they reach the semifinals. Why, it might work, especially if the physical training coaches are from North Korea, "in a cork helmet and with a bamboo club." If they don't excel in technology, they will at least trample. wassat
  21. gendir.grifon
    gendir.grifon 15 July 2016 17: 15
    +2
    The results of the game of our team at Euro 2016 once again show that the main thing is not money, or even not in their quantity, but in fortitude and the desire to win for your country. This should be brought up by the state not in words, but in practice. In Soviet Russia, this was, but in bourgeois Russia, this is impossible. As it was not, there is no national idea, except for the powerfully exploited power uniting the idea of ​​the Great Victory in the Great Patriotic War. What can a handful of oligarchs, bureaucrats, other businessmen, and most of the people of Russia have in common? Never mind. Fed up hungry is not a friend. Someone has small pearls, someone has cabbage soup is not thick. While bourgeois power in Russia, nothing will change dramatically for the better.
    1. Vitaly72
      Vitaly72 15 July 2016 18: 27
      +2
      I repeat, but in the bourgeois, there is Spain, Germany or (God forgive me) England, they have some kind of motivation, because they are tearing, well, pu, bourgeois, but there is a desire to win
  22. 1536
    1536 15 July 2016 17: 15
    +4
    In my opinion, it’s already clear to everyone that our football should not be reanimated, but give birth again!
    Therefore, about the players or good, or nothing to say.
  23. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 15 July 2016 17: 19
    +1
    There is no need to invite foreign trainers.
    Already. Mudko already makes some pasta. Either Mancini or Magerini ...
    It’s more convenient to cut loot with a foreigner. negative
  24. zulus222
    zulus222 15 July 2016 17: 25
    +4
    to pay these geeks a lot of money, and children to collect money for operations via SMS. strange is all!
  25. Comrade Glebov
    Comrade Glebov 15 July 2016 17: 37
    0
    I know how to train for the current Russian national team and with current salaries. Running from the combine on a fenced path. How many will the coach say - 20 laps, 30 laps, at what speed - 2-6 km / h (or how much is there?). Those who did not have time / tired / fell down - there is a loaf. For the goalkeeper, the FSB takes the family into its "dungeons". If he missed a goal, his wife's finger was cut off, or the nail was torn off with pliers. Team play training - I didn't learn what the coach tells you - 20 laps from the combine and my wife's finger. And to be honest, it is necessary to disperse these freaks, reduce salaries to sane ones and recruit guys who are not very bow-legged, love football and the Motherland.
    1. Camel
      Camel 15 July 2016 18: 18
      +2
      Coaching a team game - I have not learned what the coach says to you - 20 laps from the combine and a finger to his wife.

      Somehow, according to the DPRK-ovsky, there still need to be about 10 circles (otherwise it’s completely dead), and the wife’s finger doesn’t have to be cut off, the nail will not grow out later (there’s nothing) - what should I use pliers in the future? Not optimally suggest spending family members of football players. am
      1. K-50
        K-50 15 July 2016 22: 34
        +1
        Quote: Camel
        Already somehow quite according to the DPRK-ovsky - laps still need about 10 (otherwise it’s completely dead)

        Everyone, probably even from school, knows that the circle in the stadium is exactly 400 meters and that the result from that run is needed not 10 or twenty circles, but 50 or more, moreover with a multi-speed run, and not just at a marathon speed.
        Sometime in 88, ours performed at the World Championship, it seems, reached the semifinals, if my memory serves me right. Well, it seems like Maradona's or someone else's "Like, how do you like our team?" He replied "they run well, but I don't know much about athletics."
        But then at least they ran, the current “footballers” barely move across the field, like pregnant cockroaches crawling. Shame, in a word. negative
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  29. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 15 July 2016 18: 12
    +4
    You know, my opinion is "the guys got drunk"! Someone has a Vertu phone, some have a snack in Monte Carlo, some Mers buys for several million. And everything seems to be legal and correct. And at work, I come across people and their problems, including do you know how often parents ask for help in treating their children ?! Of course it will never be like this, but how I would like to redirect these financial flows to help children in need, than to continue to drive these millions into such mediocrity and pay for these cheap show-off!
  30. orlan912
    orlan912 15 July 2016 18: 20
    +3
    It's all about big money. Play well - get money, play bad - get money. So why bother? So our football players ran (or rather walked) across the field and wanted to go on vacation rather.
  31. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 15 July 2016 18: 24
    +4
    Even trahti-bidohi-bidokh, nor Akhalai-Mahalai will not help Russian football when MONEY is in the first place ...
  32. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 15 July 2016 18: 33
    0
    I wonder how we would hold the 2018 Championship. and at the same time not to be dishonored in full with our team? Can they land on the plane? And let the young ones go. If possible - well done, breakthrough, cheers! It doesn’t work out - what do you want from the juniors, they have everything ahead of them .. As an option, colleagues?
    1. Roman 11
      Roman 11 15 July 2016 20: 33
      0
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Can they land on the plane?

      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      As an option, colleagues?

      Not humanely!
      1. voronbel53
        voronbel53 15 July 2016 21: 33
        +1
        Quote: Novel 11
        Can they land on the plane?

        And what about the plane, is it not a pity? ..
  33. mik6403
    mik6403 15 July 2016 18: 37
    +1
    Football in Russia for another 15-20 years will not be normal. Where is a good youth and youth team? There is none of it, which means that these bent-legged freaks will be replaced by others. There is no such thing as children's football, and while children's coaches in the regions have a salary of 15 rubles, they will think first of all how to feed their family, and then about work. (All coaching work is enthusiastic and hold on. And who would not He wrote about high morale (without which the same cannot be defeated, of course), now in sports it requires gifted and trained people from childhood, and HOW MUCH TRACTOR DO NOT DRIVE A CLEANER WILL NOT BECOME !!!!
  34. AID.S
    AID.S 15 July 2016 18: 41
    +1
    "And Shirokov, and Arshavin, and Zhirkov, and other age athletes can be brought to a high hormonal background."
    Unfortunately, it’s impossible to mold candy out of the blue, the matter (ruin) is not in the hormones, but in the heads (c).
  35. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 15 July 2016 18: 44
    0
    "twenty-two bullies for an hour and a half ... chasing one ball!
    Give them shovels, they'll dig the whole field! "
    "Or, I remember, they played with the British. The time is terrible, the 30s or 15s. The excitement! The stadium is roaring! There are clouds of Swedes! They, as I remember now, are in the cage, we are in the line. I run out to the center. To my left, I remember, the left, the right, I remember, I’m right ... no, I won’t say, I’m afraid to make a mistake. Again this guy whistled. The people, I remember, screamed. Why did they scream? I don’t remember. I remember everyone went at me. I turn around and bridge head. Then - on a horse and vegetable gardens, vegetable gardens went to Kotovsky "(Zhvanetsky performed by Raikin).
    As for adrenaline and other hormones ... Well, yes. First: the strongest motivation: the team game and should be cut as if it were the last and decisive. Amateurs for this motivation can win, but only once. Here the pros should be cut to the last whistle constantly. Indeed, without the strongest physical training, no players can be professionals. Those. reaching the peak of the form for the championship, and there - stable work for wear until the last patch. We can’t, so we don’t want to. Or do not want to?
    That's it: what difference does it make if there is no strength. So, shovels in your hands ... Again, there is nothing to take people ... Such crap. And then, file the budget in the name of the World Cup. What kind of aircraft? Fucking machine tools, we don’t have money for unemployed cities - Championship! Russia is the birthplace of ... football!
  36. Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 15 July 2016 19: 31
    0
    It is necessary to create a football club the Russian national team, to recruit the best football players there and let them play in the Premier League, and then the whole team will go to the World Cup or Europe. And so the hodgepodge meets once every half a year nor teamwork is anything. So at least teamwork will be.
  37. Fuss
    Fuss 15 July 2016 19: 31
    +1
    very good comments;) But the article is controversial, in my opinion: throwing under the bar is not a panacea ... Someone will help, someone will be killed. A simple example is the women's biathlon team. Trained by foreigners, and there is an opinion. that it was physics that broke everyone. We need doctors, those people who understand how it should be;) We do not prepare sports doctors. Sport disappeared when athletes and coaches became businessmen ... :( Children's sports, as a phenomenon, will cease to exist soon ... I can write a lot about children's sports. I have a child who plays sports, I see a lot of problems in children's sports. Problems in sports, and football in particular, are not separable from problems in the state as a whole.
  38. vabvab
    vabvab 15 July 2016 19: 36
    0
    Victor Nikolaevich Siluyanov just offers recipes on how to build strength and endurance in the gym. According to his methodology, our sambo wrestlers are already working. Another thing is that he does not teach technique, tactics and strategy. For this, competent trainers are already needed.
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 15 July 2016 19: 57
      0
      Quote: vabvab
      According to his methodology, our sambo wrestlers are already working. Another thing is that he does not teach technique, tactics and strategy.

      By the way, regarding the training in the gym, you should not go too far with this. I go in for sports, I can sit down 700 times, do 600 repetitions per press. As a result, the pressure is low, low pulse (colo 60-70), constantly sluggish, I drink coffee to raise the pressure.
      I don’t know how the professionals do, but the increased loads are probably reflected on them as well, the pressure drops, the pulse and, as a result, the general tone decreases.
  39. iouris
    iouris 15 July 2016 19: 48
    0
    The problem of football in Russia is the problem of quality of life. The country will change, football will change. Icelanders have shown that all these dollar millionaires running around the green field are really worthless. But they are nomenclature units in some system.
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 15 July 2016 20: 02
      0
      Quote: iouris
      The problem of football in Russia is the problem of quality of life. The country will change, football will change. Icelanders have shown that all these dollar millionaires running around the green field are really worthless. But they are nomenclature units in some system.

      Because, for example, in Brazil, football is an opportunity for children to take place in life and become someone, that is, in some way, a social elevator from poverty. You must try to grow. And we have rich dads and mothers pay big money for future players pushing them into professional sports.
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    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 15 July 2016 20: 27
      +1
      Quote: qwert111
      Ours just do not know what to do and how to win "-hee-hee-hee

      I noticed that our players constantly do not know what to do with the ball from the penalty rival, if other teams immediately play some kind of schemes, sometimes even successful improvisations with the ball eventually lead to a goal, then we begin to transfer the ball from one to the other during which often the ball is lost and a counterattack begins, as well as permanent canopies in the box that end in nothing.
  41. fa2998
    fa2998 15 July 2016 20: 51
    +3
    Quote: iouris
    The problem of football in Russia is the problem of quality of life. The country will change, football will change

    By the way, our football has long been working according to Western standards. Millionth salaries to football players, overseas fees, well-equipped bases (I want to say REST). A whole galaxy of foreign coaches with record mountains and rest after work is the same quite western-binge in Saint-Tropez for a quarter of a million Euro.
    I read comments, many were removed by admins, yes many forum users were not shy in expressions about the game of our team. We still have a shame at the World Cup. They will also come from South America and Africa. The world championship should be held in Iceland where 1/10 of the population left to the championship, and 98% of the rest were rooting for their national team on TV good .For our ashamed! negative hi
    1. iouris
      iouris 15 July 2016 22: 52
      0
      Quote: fa2998
      For our ashamed!

      They are not ours. Our people in Monte Carlo do not fly.
  42. In100gram
    In100gram 15 July 2016 21: 18
    0
    I read the article, put the minus. And here is Slutsky? He had to hastily choose between shit and .ovnom. He is the best Russian coach to date. CSKA example, the champion of the country for more than one year. All players need to be changed, and the selection system for the team. Who dares to do so by breaking the whole system? Are you bold?
    1. DarkMatter
      DarkMatter 15 July 2016 22: 25
      0
      Well, as for the best coach, many will argue with you, saying the name of Berdyev.

      And the selection system for the national team does not need to be changed, there is nobody, the thing is that these languid lazy trees are the best we have now, the base of youth football has been completely destroyed and no one is going to solve this problem, it’s better to take the Brazilian (nothing personal to the newly made Russian)).

      You will not demand a new armature from scratch? You need to come up with this tank somewhere (someone), you need to translate it into metal at some factory, test it at a training ground, etc., go through all the stages and get the result at the end.
      In football, it’s exactly the same, so all these stages are in deep crisis, it’s necessary to restore everything planned, apply titanic efforts, it is possible to cancel the limit, introduce human salaries for coaches and staff in schools, for players at the level of say up to 21 years 500 thousand, up to 23 - a million, older than 1.5-2 million, if you want more - go to Europe to the top club, if you deserve it. Perhaps some other things, you need to think and do, but who will do it? None. The transition from young men to adult football has been disrupted, both in terms of preparing and injecting a young promising player into an adult team, and at the level of morality and aspirations - no one wants to do anything after receiving a bunch of dough.
      And the team is the tip of the iceberg, which is just like a litmus test, nothing is solved there, everything is decided in the training of personnel much earlier.
  43. PValery53
    PValery53 15 July 2016 21: 35
    0
    How did North Korea deal with the losing national football team? - Someone for a stake, some for the gallows, some for a concentration camp. Specifically the same thing for our team, I do not propose, but the "repression" for our former team will be useful for the next team. Once "patriotic admonitions" do not work. And, of course, the squalid national team (and the head coach) should no longer be allowed to play for Russia.
    1. DarkMatter
      DarkMatter 15 July 2016 22: 30
      +1
      Get out, they won the last World Cup wassat tongue

  44. unsinkable
    unsinkable 15 July 2016 23: 12
    0
    The article is like bullshit. I agree that the team. I do not agree about Slutsky. He is a normal coach, if normal, with a share of vanity, the team. And these gobbled up and gobbled up. Slutsky, do not hang up your nose. Could not handle this shit and genius. Sport and big money are not compatible.
    1. iouris
      iouris 16 July 2016 03: 29
      0
      Quote: unsinkable
      I don’t agree about Slutsky. He’s a normal coach,

      Slutsky is not a coach at all, but a manager. A lot of money.
  45. ibirus
    ibirus 16 July 2016 01: 16
    0
    To disperse such a team to hell, and the remaining money to spend on the construction of kindergartens and schools.
  46. Fei_Wong
    Fei_Wong 16 July 2016 04: 51
    +1
    Quote: Temples

    Who just did not write about football! All specialists!
    This is just a game.
    Just men kick the ball.
    Guys kick the ball all their conscious lives!

    But after all other men suffer from it !!! wassat
    Scary! fool

    Do you (well, let's say, "men") suffer from some kind of BALL? ^ _ ^
    I’m suffering more from the USE system, which is fooling our new generation, from deceit and bribery of a dragged-out article in the Code, plunging Russia into the anal abyss of juvenile justice, from shrinking the military budget of the Russian Federation and freezing some promising (and precisely asymmetric) projects ... Yes, thousands of these reasons, from which you lose your hair, not yet aged, if you take all the troubles of your country to heart.
    But to suffer from a ball that is in no hurry to find itself inside one of the two U-shaped structures with a net ... Well, we live well, that means, even if people can still afford to waste nerves on such garbage.

    PS Of course, my post is addressed to the "collective irresponsible", and not to you personally. : 3
  47. Straight
    Straight 16 July 2016 06: 11
    +1
    And the truth is brother is that mafia orders reign everywhere - thieves in positions, voiceless singing, bent-legged people play football! And who will let you talented ones to the trough !?
  48. Fuss
    Fuss 16 July 2016 13: 36
    0
    Quote: Direct
    And the truth is brother is that mafia orders reign everywhere - thieves in positions, voiceless singing, bent-legged people play football! And who will let you talented ones to the trough !?


    Very significant comment. I think the author grasped the essence of life, not only of sports in Russia, but of the life system in the country as a whole;)