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“Wild” lieutenant: idol Fidel Castro and Che Guevara

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In 1963, the Spanish-language newspapers published an interview with the leader of the Cuban revolution, as well as one of the most famous people of our time, Fidel Castro. Among the many rather traditional and customary questions, one stood out: "Which of the heroes of World War II could you call your idol?" Apparently the journalists hear the name of someone famous, but the Comandante was not so simple.


Being an educated man, he, like the legendary Che Guevara, had a great passion for books. Once, Alexander Beck’s Volokolamskoe Shosse about the exploit of the 8 Guards Panfilov Division came into his hands. One of the main characters of the book is now a little-known Soviet officer from Kazakhstan, Baurzhan Momysh-uly, and he called him his hero. But why is this hero famous?



The handsome and handsome young officer went to serve in the Red Army a few more years before the Great Patriotic War. During this time, he managed to unlearn an artillery officer, took part in battles in the Far East with the Japanese army, participated in a campaign in Bessarabia. Then he went to serve in Alma-Ata, where the war caught him.

In the autumn of 1941, he volunteered to the front, just at that time an 316-Infantry Division was being formed in the city. Already at the stage of creation, it was assumed that this unit would be one of the most combat-ready - it sent adult men who had an idea of ​​the war, they were all volunteers. In the part of Momysh-uly appointed battalion commander.

The very first appointment of the division threatened to be the last - the military unit was sent to defend the approaches to Moscow. The command understood that the attacking units of the Wehrmacht would simply sweep away the 316, but it was necessary to hold the capital until the approach of the Far Eastern armies. The case was complicated by the fact that the Soviet command literally forbade the study of defensive concepts in the army, it was assumed that the Red Army should defeat offensive operations in a foreign land. For a different point of view, you could lose your position.

“Wild” lieutenant: idol Fidel Castro and Che Guevara


But Ivan Vasilievich Panfilov, who managed to command the 316 division, went to the trick. He developed tactics for conducting spiral fighting. In his opinion, on condition of a numerically superior enemy, it was suicide to act by the usual methods. So, his division had to keep a front longer than 40 kilometers, although according to all wartime standards they could only defend 12 kilometers. In such a situation, any concentrated blow of the enemy would break through the defenses. And then Panfilov propose to act as follows.

The unit did not need to arrange a whole defensive front. Instead, it was necessary to strike at a moving enemy column, and, after a short battle, to move away from the advancing enemy. Along the way, small ambushes and pockets of resistance were organized behind the retreating division, which lured the enemy to the side of the retreating, simultaneously delaying. After the enemy stretched, the division abruptly changed direction and returned to strike at the main forces. Such disturbing blows strongly stretched the forces of the enemy, which greatly slowed his progress. As a result, the division not only survived, contrary to all predictions, but also did it heroically, for which it was renamed 8 Guards Panfilov.



It is noteworthy that Panfilov developed only a theory, but it was Momysh-Ula's battalion who best embodied it. After joining the battle in the middle of October 1941, the battalion commander, in November, he already led the regiment, although it remained "Starley". The significance of his merits can be judged by the fact that Panfilov’s defensive theory was called the “Momyshuly spiral”

Colonel General Erich Göpner commanded the 4th tank group, and it was he who happened to encounter the tactics of a young Kazakh. During the offensive, he writes in his reports to Hitler: "The wild division, fighting in violation of all the charters and rules of warfare, whose soldiers do not surrender, are extremely fanatical and not afraid of death."

The only savagery of the international volunteer division was that they were not familiar with the German plans. Instead of dying heroically under the caterpillars of the German tank armadas, the regiment of Momysh-uly chose life and victory.

The tactics of the “wild” Kazakh can be judged by several episodes. On his very first day at the front, the lieutenant suggested that the regimental commander create a detachment of one hundred volunteers and make a night sortie with them. With him, he took only the most experienced and at night got close to one of the villages occupied by the enemy. In less than an hour of battle, three hundred enemies were destroyed.

Under the Demyansk regiment, the senior lieutenant had a chance to meet with the SS division "Dead Head". Here he again had to fight a numerically superior enemy. The goal he chose six villages occupied by the enemy. Twenty detachments into which the regiment was divided, under the cover of night, alternately attacked all the targets at once. As soon as the enemy organized the defense, the detachment retreated, and after a few minutes, another branch attacked the village from the other side. And such a hell was going on in all six directions for several hours. The famous division with a loud name held on as best it could, but was confident that it was holding back the main attack of the Soviet army. They did not assume that they were fighting with one battered regiment. During the night the losses of the Momysh-Uly fighters amounted to 157 fighters, the SS division was short of 1200 soldiers.

As we see, Starley adhered to the tactics of Alexander Suvorov - always keep the initiative in the offensive. However, modern realities had to be taken into account. Panfilov could not give one general battle. After they broke one German part, several others were thrown on them. Momysh-uly repeatedly found himself surrounded, but each time he broke through, while maintaining his battalion, regiment and division in full combat readiness.

The 30-year-old lieutenant began his legendary battalion commander in October, a month later he commanded the regiment, in February he headed his own division, while remaining a senior lieutenant. Only a few months later, one by one, he was given extraordinary ranks up to the colonel. At the same time he was promoted to the title of Hero of the USSR, but there was a refusal.

Delays with awards were influenced by its peculiar character. Co-workers characterized him as a cheerful, cheerful person who always spoke the truth. This was the cause of many friction with the authorities.

This caused a rather funny situation in the future. According to the stories of the stepdaughter Momysh-uly, her adoptive father rarely used his connections and influence, but he loved to read about himself in the newspapers. He found out how highly his exploits were done by Fidel Castro and Che Guevara and immediately sent them an invitation to visit. During their visit to the USSR, the Cuban guests immediately stated that they would like to meet with the legendary "wild" Kazakh.



The authorities have begun to organize a meeting. But there was one snag - the apartment building where the legendary Panfilov resided was in a terrible state. Local authorities immediately offered the family to move to a new apartment, but Momysh-uly flatly refused. He said that he was not ashamed to receive guests in such a house, and if someone was ashamed of his accommodation, then let him live with it.

After long negotiations, all parties came to a compromise - the hero's house was repaired, and he settled with his family in a hotel for the period of repair. A whole delegation came to visit the commander, it turned out that Castro practically did not part with the books of Momysh-uly, but it was impossible to discuss all the topics in one short visit, so the war hero was invited to return to Cuba. In 1963, this invitation was able to be implemented.



The meeting of the Kazakh legend could only be compared with the celebrations in honor of Yuri Gagarin. The Cubans hoped that their idol would hold lectures on the conduct of the war for a month, but Momysh-uly refused, saying that he would manage in 10 days, but he could not linger - the cadets were waiting for him. The hero led the military school courses "out of the encirclement without loss" and "waging night battles in the offensive."

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  1. Turkir
    Turkir 16 July 2016 07: 14
    +58
    A very interesting story page.
    Thank you.
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    4. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 16 July 2016 12: 48
      +76
      He is my idol too. Two books at home. I remember this from "The Psychology of War", not literally, but the meaning:
      Before every fight, be afraid of everything. Even a lion has fear in nature. But fear should not be constraining, but rather encouraging to action - to fight and defend, as animals do. A fearless person will die because he does not value life. Whoever is afraid will try to save this life, i.e. fight for life. Try to survive, not give up.
      A coward and a hero (batyr, warrior) are distinguished by one thing, although there is a similarity - they are both afraid, but the coward freezes in place from fear, succumbing to it, arms, legs tremble, fingers don’t click on the hook, and perishes at the hands of the enemy in a daze, or runs, thinking that this will save him, but the hero turns fear into anger, a sense of shame, honor, and duty to the Motherland, to mothers and wives, does not allow him to escape, and tries to kill this very enemy who is trying to kill him with anything, the main thing destroy without regret.

      By the way, soon (in November) the film "28 Panfilov's men" will be released, which was shot with public money. In the trailer video there is a moment when they show that no one was recklessly killed, the commander says to the soldiers: "I don't need to die. I have to stand tightly" or "And know that no one is heroic, because there is no reason, we are quietly burning tanks." smile

      P.S. Kazakhs have a proverb (in our tradition, every male should be a warrior): Koyandy kamys oltiredi, batyrdy namys oltiredi. Translated: a hare kills the rustle of reeds, and batyr honor. If honor has been tarnished, then you are no longer a batyr. In the sense that tolerating shame is worse than death, and fleeing is a shame, unless of course a false retreat like the Mongols seeks to ambush to exterminate the enemy smile
      1. Kotyara Fat
        Kotyara Fat 16 July 2016 23: 29
        +19
        This proverb was quoted in the book "Volokolamskoe Highway". Favorite book since childhood! Dexterously, outside the box, they beat the nemchura with a series of ambushes! And with what love the volley fire is described ... Poem!
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 18 July 2016 17: 21
          +1
          [quote = Kotyara Fat] [quote = Kotyara Fat] This proverb was given in the book "Volokolamsk highway". Favorite book since childhood! Dexterously, outside the box, a series of ambushes beat the nemchuru! And with what love the volley fire is described ... Poem! [/ Quote]
          Actually, there was a two-volume book by Bourjan, which was more interesting there. And in more detail ...
          1. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 18 July 2016 17: 56
            +2
            Either crash or brush off.
            There was a continuation in the time of Khrushchev. Hereral major in Kaz.SSR, it was a figure. This is with us .... And there they respected. Dig INTER, if you are interested in personality. Do not regret the time spent.
            After my enthusiasm about his book, my mother spoke to me about him as a famous person and there’s nothing to be surprised at.
            By the way, I read Bourjan first, and then Beck. Well what to say. Beck writer, each letter in its place, all phrases are verified. And Bourjan is a wild and at the same time restrained blood flow ... Yes, yes they are Kazakhs. Strong-willed and hot.
      2. bazalt16
        bazalt16 19 July 2016 22: 12
        0
        In 1986, on the train, I had a chance to listen to the recollections of a veteran who served under B. Momysh-uly. According to his story, B. Momysh-uly was keen on dealing with cowards and deserters and did not stand on ceremony with them. It seems that he even "sentenced" them. This was an example of courage. His answer to Mikoyan is remarkable. Then the "faithful Stalinist" Mikoyan asked him: "Why are you not Momyshev, but Momysh-uly?" (dear comrade Mikoyan was bending his soul, because he knew as a native of the Caucasus that the Turki had a prefix uly (oglu) is pronounced with the father's name, i.e. it plays the role of a middle name). "Why are you not Mikoev, but Mikoyan?" - answered Baurzhan. For such answers and an independent character he did not receive a hero. who replaced the deceased Panfilov
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 31 July 2016 04: 17
          0
          It's scary to imagine how many fighters had to run around with these throws on the rear and "spiral". ... Eh, the national football team could be driven in boots and with full gear, but in the snow and swamps ... In two years, you can train so much that then any national team simply runs across without any feints, etc. I'm afraid these millionaires are no longer good, I need "fresh blood".
          I did not know for Fidel and Che, an interesting page. Thank. hi
  2. Naiman
    Naiman 16 July 2016 07: 49
    +13
    Was reading a book. Honest and truthful book
  3. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 16 July 2016 07: 50
    +40
    Our Soviet man ..)
    1. Altona
      Altona 17 July 2016 10: 27
      +1
      Quote: Razvedka_Boem
      Our Soviet man ..)

      --------------------
      In later photographs, he looks like Maxim Gorky, combing his hair back and nose shape. But his tactics are presented very interestingly.
  4. dima-fesko
    dima-fesko 16 July 2016 07: 50
    +36
    To my shame, I did not know about the existence of this legendary man. Thank you for introducing me. But I would like to learn more about this hero, the material is a bit scarce. Who gave the nickname, and what did he do after the war, etc.?
    1. Red_Hamer
      Red_Hamer 16 July 2016 11: 38
      +19
      There was a film "Moscow is behind us!" Filmed based on the books of our hero Baurzhan Momysh-uly “Moscow is behind us. Officer's Notes ”,“ Our General. ”“ The Story of One Night ”.
  5. Talgat 148
    Talgat 148 16 July 2016 07: 52
    +20
    This ҚазаҚ !!!
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 16 July 2016 07: 54
    +20
    For the courage and heroism shown in the battle of Moscow, Captain Bauyrzhan Momyshuly in 1942 was introduced to the title of Hero of the Soviet Union, but was awarded him only posthumously, on December 11, 1990.
    1. I doubt it
      I doubt it 16 July 2016 09: 23
      +31
      ".... posthumously, December 11, 1990."

      But if you think about it, he is a happy person. Happier than many, many WWII veterans.
      Fate did not allow him to observe the collapse of the great country in which he lived, which he defended, which he loved ...
  7. egsp
    egsp 16 July 2016 08: 15
    +32
    The hero of the multinational Soviet Union and all! We need to stick together, all the fragments of the once great country.
  8. family tree
    family tree 16 July 2016 08: 30
    +64
    From! Here a whole starley command a division, and boards are nailed to various Mannerheims, and some kind of "citadel", such as a movie. It's a shame for the Power recourse
    1. Beefeater
      Beefeater 16 July 2016 18: 48
      -33%
      Quote: perepilka
      From! Here a whole starley command a division, and boards are nailed to various Mannerheims, and some kind of "citadel", such as a movie. It's a shame for the Power recourse

      You think this is right when Starley commands a division. How many soldiers were at that time in the division? 300, 400, maybe 500? Not 10 for sure. Where are the senior officers? Dead? So moderate your enthusiasm.

      And the episode when the troops killed 1200 enemy soldiers also does not inspire confidence and resembles hunting stories. The Germans did not put up military guard? Sleeping drunk on schnapps unconscious? Who held the front while the soldiers rummaged in the enemy’s position?
      In general, the text raises numerous questions.
      I am not so naive as to accept such texts on faith
      In wartime, they have the right to exist, as campaign materials, but in no way can be the object of serious historical research.
      1. marshes
        marshes 16 July 2016 18: 53
        +10
        Quote: Beefeater
        You think this is right when Starley commands a division. How many soldiers were at that time in the division? 300, 400, maybe 500? Not 10 for sure. So moderate your enthusiasm.

        U ... his ancestor Koigeldy batyr was a pretty cool person.
      2. Kotyara Fat
        Kotyara Fat 16 July 2016 23: 32
        +3
        Oh, well, I really can’t ... How incredulous we are! Go guard the grandmother and eat the cow.
      3. family tree
        family tree 17 July 2016 00: 05
        +15
        Quote: Beefeater
        You think it’s right when Starley commands a division

        I’m sorry, I don’t know how about the priest, I just noticed, and I’m not alone. There is such garbage in the army, wartime officers, and those who receive stars from civilians. Only when the fight begins, the first come out, and it turns out that Starley commands the division, and the parquet colonels, well, pop out, like putting yourself up.
        And how many soldiers were in the division, so when you find the data on the railway, then blather, otherwise it’s
      4. laogun
        laogun 17 July 2016 09: 36
        -15%
        Absolutely agree. The text is illiterate not only spelling, but also with a blatant lie mixed in - what is this statement:
        The matter was complicated by the fact that the Soviet command literally prohibited the study of defensive concepts in the army, it was assumed that the Red Army should defeat offensive operations on foreign lands. For a different point of view, one could lose one's position.
        The author is an enemy and a provocateur.
        1. Pissarro
          Pissarro 17 July 2016 15: 47
          +9
          another, head over to read the 1939 field charter, chapter 10, defense
      5. ava09
        ava09 18 July 2016 16: 51
        +2
        Quote: Beefeater
        How many soldiers were at that time in the division? 300, 400, maybe 500?

        Such a number of personnel only complicated the performance of the combat mission, and the combat mission was assigned to the division, and not to the battalion.
  9. akyb1975
    akyb1975 16 July 2016 08: 53
    -24%
    The film was made by 28 Panfilov’s men where a continuous invention of some of them served the Germans and there’s a real person and a feat of the Panfilov’s division.
    1. family tree
      family tree 16 July 2016 09: 22
      +17
      Yes, there in general, a layer of history, about the 4th tank brigade, then the 1st Guards, Katukov, you can also shoot a movie, so no, they chew on Prokhorovka all. And about SUSHKI, in Balaton, not a single movie at all, an art, and they, consider the Panzerwaffe to zero and multiplied
    2. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 16 July 2016 12: 55
      +19
      Not bullshit. 316 The division was and held the defense near Moscow. And the fact that they transferred in 28, so this does not cancel the fact of their heroism. smile
      1. family tree
        family tree 16 July 2016 14: 10
        +4
        Yes, no one feat of the 316th Red Banner, she is the 8th Guards in doubt. Here we are talking about the film. It will be necessary to see, yes. And then I don’t look like that. The latest film about the features of national fishing. Yes, outraged until impossible belay Where is it seen that the submarine on vodka worked! Yes, the melt for such a designer will strangle what , and will be in his own right. wassat
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 18 July 2016 18: 03
          +1
          Quote: perepilka
          Yes, no one feat of the 316th Red Banner, she is the 8th Guards in doubt. Here we are talking about the film. It will be necessary to see, yes. And then I don’t look like that. The latest film about the features of national fishing. Yes, outraged until impossible belay Where is it seen that the submarine on vodka worked! Yes, the melt for such a designer will strangle what , and will be in his own right. wassat

          Well no. In 1MV, cars were driven on alcohol and there was nothing, they arrived.
          1. family tree
            family tree 18 July 2016 18: 51
            0
            Quote: Mavrikiy
            In 1MV, cars for alcohol were rolled

            I'll tell you laughing ... In general, I read fiction, about thirty years ago, the book was called, like "Hello, battalion commander", so there was a case described as how the autobat dumped a tank of alcohol, and the commander, so as not to drink and fuel, ordered to mix it with the rest of gasoline. Only now, on the second day, the drivers were tipsy. Half a bucket of the mixture was poured, diluted with water, stirred, benz at the top, it does not dissolve in water, alcohol-water at the bottom, stood a little, nail a hole at the bottom, and take a shower drinks repeat
    3. ToBXPeH
      ToBXPeH 16 July 2016 17: 28
      +3
      Is the movie already out? Or are you like this: "I have not looked, but I condemn" ?!
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 18 July 2016 18: 06
        0
        Quote: ToBXPeH
        Is the movie already out? Or are you like this: "I have not looked, but I condemn" ?!

        Why not condemn. And suddenly there was an enemy, and I overslept. It will turn out ugly.
        Sorry, I missed, but what is it about?
    4. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 18 July 2016 17: 59
      +1
      Quote: akyb1975
      The film was made by 28 Panfilov’s men where a continuous invention of some of them served the Germans and there’s a real person and a feat of the Panfilov’s division.

      Benderovets, are you lost? Walk to the hut. And then options are possible.
  10. sabakina
    sabakina 16 July 2016 08: 53
    +9
    Panfilov’s defensive theory was called “Momyshuly’s spiral

    Since childhood, I love military subjects, but I did not know about this, to my shame.
    1. Beefeater
      Beefeater 16 July 2016 18: 54
      -14%
      There is nothing to be ashamed of; nobody knew this except the author of these notes.
      1. Kotyara Fat
        Kotyara Fat 16 July 2016 23: 34
        0
        Who wanted to know, knew! How's Baba Lisa # 2?
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 18 July 2016 18: 10
        0
        Quote: Beefeater
        There is nothing to be ashamed of; nobody knew this except the author of these notes.

        Duc cork except its bottle and can not know anything. Yes and no proper.
        So do not be shy on. And read about Khrushchev’s hand in the fate of Bourjan, Fendrick.
  11. pticas
    pticas 16 July 2016 09: 09
    +16
    Do not be lazy to read "Volokolamskoe shosse" by A. Bek!
    This book is practically about him, and by the way, the writing is wonderful.
  12. Nursultan
    Nursultan 16 July 2016 09: 14
    +26
    Residents of Kyrgyzstan also revere Baurzhan Mamysh-Uly. After all, immigrants from the northern regions of Kyrgyzstan fought in the Panfilov division. The legendary man has always stood for justice. Therefore, at the end of his life he was pushed to run the hotel. Subsequently, it became an exemplary and legendary hotel "Kazakhstan". My grandfather told me that it was the regiment of Mamysh-uly who stormed the Reichstag and the banner was hoisted by completely different people who flaunted in history. Egorov and Kantaria came to visit Mamysh-Uly several times. What they talked about remains a mystery.
    THANKS TO YOU HERO FOR YOUR VICTORY! THANKS TO YOU WE LIVE IN THIS WHITE LIGHT IN A BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY IN THE FOUNTAINS OF OUR Tien Shan !!
    1. bubalik
      bubalik 16 July 2016 10: 20
      +12
      Nursultan (1)  Today, 09: 14 My grandfather told me that it was the regiment of Mamysh-ula who stormed the Reichstag
      .... commander of the 9-I Guards Rifle divisions Colonel Baurjan Mamysh-Ula with 28 January 1945 to 9 May 1945

      ,,, fighting
      In early October, 1944 took part in the Memel offensive, from the area northwest of Siauliai in the Libava direction.

      Over the next seven months, she fought stubborn battles with the German-fascist forces grouped against the sea and cut off on the Courland Peninsula, a section of the front east of Libau between the river. Venta and Priekule district.

      In April of the 1945 of the year, as part of the Leningrad Front, it was preparing for a decisive attack with the goal of finally defeating the enemy's Kurland group.

      From May 9 to 1945, the 9-I Guards Rifle Red Banner Division received enemy units, their weapons, military equipment and property in the Aizpute area.


      http://www.nashapobeda.lv/1488.html

      ,,, which Reichstag? fool
      1. family tree
        family tree 16 July 2016 11: 10
        +9
        Quote: bubalik
        which Reichstag?

        Come on laughing here some time ago the Chechens defended the Brest Fortress, like that, like three hundred Spartans, oh belay the Chechens what
        1. I doubt it
          I doubt it 16 July 2016 11: 45
          +1
          And Chechens are always dear to us, and Chechens are always honored with us!
      2. NikolaiN
        NikolaiN 16 July 2016 11: 24
        +7
        Probably mixed up with Rakhimzhan Koshkarbayev, it happens ...
      3. family tree
        family tree 17 July 2016 21: 52
        0
        Quote: bubalik
        commander of the 9th guards

        Only now, the Guards Rifle Order of the Order of Lenin, the Red Banner Order of Suvorov, the division named after Hero of the Soviet Union, Major General I.V. Panfilov, was listed at number 8. Although, Bauyrzhan (it seems to be correctly named, well, not so, according to the stupid, I will accept a couple of slammers with humility, this current what , don’t get carried away, otherwise it won’t rust behind the answer), there would be such friends, but wisdom to absorb them, and give to the children
    2. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 16 July 2016 12: 58
      +13
      Thank! Of course, the Kyrgyz were in 316 divisions too. And indeed, all the republics of the Union, all Soviet people contributed to the victory over Hitler's fascism. This is our common victory! smile
    3. Beefeater
      Beefeater 16 July 2016 19: 01
      -13%
      Well, the Reichstag also stormed.
      And Cantaria came. But what they talked about is a mystery. Probably asked to be more modest.
      Didn't your grandfather tell you that the front-line soldiers generally told little about the war? These are not steppe akyns "all I see, I sing"
      1. Kotyara Fat
        Kotyara Fat 16 July 2016 23: 38
        +3
        Excuse me, but are there any steppes in England? And how much is beef in Landon today? And, most importantly, how is the health of Lizaveta # 2?
      2. Lexa-149
        Lexa-149 19 July 2016 03: 47
        0
        Do you know anything about akyns ?!
    4. Yereke
      Yereke 16 July 2016 19: 54
      +4
      these are other heroes .. Koshkarbayev and Bulatov were the first to be hoisted ... but they were the wrong nations for political correctness at that time
  13. EDP
    EDP 16 July 2016 09: 49
    +5
    And how many of these heroes were left without attention? The veil of oblivion begins to hide their exploits. How do we need such publications, raising the edges of the curtain of oblivion. Honor and praise to the heroes!
  14. vabvab
    vabvab 16 July 2016 10: 24
    +4
    Good man. :-)
  15. redcod
    redcod 16 July 2016 10: 52
    +25
    Colonel Momysh-uly was not the director of the hotel. He devoted his whole life to the art of war. He taught at the General Staff Academy. In recent years, he was engaged in writing. And the director of the Alma-Ata hotel was Lieutenant Rakhimzhan Koshkarbayev, who was the first to hoist the banner of Victory on the pediment of the Reichstag together with Sergeant Grigory Bulatov. In Kazakhstan, both Momysh-uly and Koshkarbayev were always considered heroes, despite the fact that they were not awarded the title of heroes in time.
    1. family tree
      family tree 16 July 2016 11: 39
      +11
      What difference does it make, who is the first one there, but at least a Spaniard, or a Jew. There, the 150th Rifle Order of Kutuzov of the second degree, the Idritskaya Division, is clearly written on the flag, and that’s it. They worked as a team and whoever did the most did not count. How is it at the Block
      "May Russia be exalted,
      May our names disappear ... "
  16. NikolaiN
    NikolaiN 16 July 2016 11: 17
    +11
    I read his books as a child. I respect this man very much, a true officer, an honest man. By the way, and Talgat Begeldinov, has recently relatively died, also from this cohort, an attack pilot, a real person.
  17. Mwg
    Mwg 16 July 2016 11: 52
    +4
    I read about him at school. There, however, without a description of tactical techniques was written, but in the spirit of socialist realism, but still moved.
  18. Cruel beaver
    Cruel beaver 16 July 2016 12: 42
    +7
    I did not know about this Man.
    Real. Our Soviet man ...
    Thanks to the author of the article.
    Fuck us when they win and capture while there are SUCH (!) People!
  19. marshes
    marshes 16 July 2016 12: 53
    +9
    By the way, at the expense of tactics.
    The kind of commander Bauyrzhan Momyshuly was can be judged by the fact that in military operational-tactical science there is a special term for mobile defense called "Momyshuly's spiral". This tactical technique of fighting is studied in higher military educational institutions around the world.

    By the way, on this site, one of Israel mentioned that they studied this tactic.
    In general, this tactic was developed by Panfilov, on the Star they were described in some detail in the past year, but Bauyrzhan Momyshuly brilliantly applied it.
    Panfilov's men were attacked by four divisions, two of which were tank divisions. Despite the fact that the division was in the direction of the main attack, it received an extremely wide zone of defense - more than 42 kilometers along the front. Although, according to the regulations, the division must defend the strip along the front 12 km. Lacking sufficient forces for effective defense, Panfilov persistently introduced the principle of organizing separate fortified centers of resistance and defense. It was then that the "Momyshuly spiral" was first applied. To be fair, I must say that it was theoretically developed by Panfilov. But in practice it was Bauyrzhan Momyshuly who first applied it. And applied it brilliantly.
    Momyshuly explained the meaning of this tactic as follows: “I call it a spiral because all the battles of the Panfilovites near Moscow are characterized by the fact that the division cut the path, bounced to the side and dragged the enemy away, took him 10 kilometers away. , again left. By such maneuvers the enemy forces are scattered, our units again go to the highway. This exhausting the enemy and gave a gain in time. "

    http://old.express-k.kz/show_article.php?art_id=47238
    IMHO, at the expense of the late delivery of the Hero of the USSR, Baurzhan Momyshuly, maybe the connection was traced-Koigeldy Batyr and Turar Ryskulov.
    And there are Suvorov and Nakhimov’s, but there are Baurzhanovs, ARVSHI (RCSS with V.PROF.OR.) named after Baurzhan MOMYSHULY.
  20. iouris
    iouris 16 July 2016 12: 55
    +6
    Moral: one who does not sit out in a war, but creatively takes every opportunity to defeat the enemy, survives. This, of course, is wildness.
  21. chenia
    chenia 16 July 2016 13: 36
    +2
    Quote: akyb1975
    The film was made by 28 Panfilov’s men where a continuous invention of some of them served the Germans and there’s a real person and a feat of the Panfilov’s division.


    You minus. That. that Momysh-uly needs to be erected a monument in Moscow, unambiguously.
    But the Klochkovites died heroically, delaying the onset of 1 German Germans for 3-4 hours (and in November it turned out for a day).

    I single out Klochkova - because He was the commander of the platoon (tank destroyer team) 2 battalions. and first of all, they burned the tanks (terribly miserable anti-tank means) that hit mainly. on 4 companies. And thwarted the first German attack.
    5 company (there, incidentally, were also PT groups of Klochkov), to a greater extent covered the ravine.
  22. viacheslav77
    viacheslav77 16 July 2016 14: 27
    +3
    The matter was complicated by the fact that the Soviet command literally prohibited the study of defensive concepts in the army, it was assumed that the Red Army should defeat offensive operations on foreign lands. For a different point of view, you could lose your position

    Draws on a fat minus, however, I will not play in the ratings. In our time, you cannot trust anyone, I would like to know how the author can confirm his statement? Maybe they personally read the training program or are there specific orders like "punish such and such for sabotage study of defense theory"?
    1. Lyubopyatov
      Lyubopyatov 16 July 2016 15: 58
      -3
      Yes, this is a well-known fact! The concept of war and victory over the enemy on enemy territory prevailed in Soviet charters until 1941. And the heavy losses of the summer of 1941 were caused by the failure to fulfill Stalin's orders from such strategists as Zhukov and Tymoshenko, who kept the offensive directives in place instead of the defensive ones, when the Stavka was waiting for the invasion of the Nazis. You read poorly the historical materials of VO, on whose pages you frolic, sir!
      1. Pissarro
        Pissarro 16 July 2016 17: 33
        +5
        This is nonsense and a beaten-up stamp that the defense did not pay attention, but were only going to advance, get acquainted

        Field Charter of the Red Army (PU-39), Chapter 10, Defense
      2. zenion
        zenion 16 July 2016 20: 20
        0
        I can only add about Zhukov. When he was the Minister of Defense, it was possible to move around the territory of the unit, only by running, or several people by combatant strides. My sister’s husband served at this time in Vinnitsa. He got into the air units and served for five years. Those were the worst years under Zhukov.
        1. Pissarro
          Pissarro 17 July 2016 15: 45
          +7
          I served in 2000-2001, and also for rank-and-file and sergeant personnel, it was possible to run alone or in combat along the territory of a unit. That’s normal, a military unit is not a place where loners move randomly
  23. Snoop
    Snoop 16 July 2016 15: 59
    +12
    I would not say that this is a little-known hero. At least older and middle-aged people managed to read books about him back in Soviet times. I read them in my school years. By the way, he had another method. He put enhanced combat protection. Which forced the Germans to stop and engage in the deployment of the main forces, even before approaching our defense. After a short battle, the military guard retreated. So the Germans turned out to waste time and stomp on the spot.
  24. Siberian1965
    Siberian1965 16 July 2016 16: 16
    +3
    When I read about the war, it hurts to hurt. After all, they knew how to fight, and beat these Hans, macaroni, various "brothers", the French, and the whole rotten Europe, both at 41 and at 45. How did it happen on June 22 and the complete loss of a huge army with almost all weapons?
    1. SCHWERIN
      SCHWERIN 16 July 2016 23: 27
      +2
      Psychologically, they were not ready for war. Their heads were clouded by fairy tales about German workers and peasants.
    2. Idiot
      Idiot 19 July 2016 06: 02
      0
      Quote: Siberian1965
      When I read about the war, it hurts to hurt. After all, they knew how to fight, and beat these Hans, macaroni, various "brothers", the French, and the whole rotten Europe, both at 41 and at 45. How did it happen on June 22 and the complete loss of a huge army with almost all weapons?


      They began to beat when the reservists came to the army, when the starleys began to command the regiments. In "Volokolamskoe shosse" there are typical examples of the so-called. "regular" officers: Captain Shilov, who fucked up his battalion, and then closed in on himself and became useless; Colonel, in my opinion, Khromin, who twice threw Momyshuly's battalion and other majors and colonels who wandered through the forests after the battle and looked for their scattered soldiers. Pokryshkin wrote that they began to beat the Germans when the FLYING commanders began to command the air divisions. Simonov has a vivid example of the reservist commander Serpilin ...
  25. pogis
    pogis 16 July 2016 20: 09
    +3
    Thank you! I read the book and ooh ... u!
    Here's an excerpt — How to describe the state that the commander is in when the order has already been given, and the commander’s plan in an hour or two becomes the personal and vital matter of every soldier ...
    The only starley in the Red Army regiment!
  26. zenion
    zenion 16 July 2016 20: 17
    +3
    Again, a joke about the fact that it was impossible to study defense.
  27. pogis
    pogis 16 July 2016 20: 22
    +2
    Read ... officer notes!
    http://militera.lib.ru/memo/russian/momysh-uly_b/02.html
  28. pogis
    pogis 16 July 2016 22: 02
    +12
    I started reading "The Psychology of War", I'm just in shock ...
    Will is the ability to make an independent healthy and rational decision and put it into practice, that is, coordinated actions of the mind and feelings, subordination of the latter to the first.
    A firm will drowns out fear, heavy impressions of the battle, overcomes fatigue, hunger, cold and other hardships and physical suffering, subjugates the soldier, sends himself and others to danger to achieve the goal. In short, the will is the engine, a means of overcoming obstacles to the goal.
    Courage - the ability to behave on the battlefield in strict accordance with the position, military rank, and situation in the interests of fulfilling the task.
    It is usually accepted to mean by courage an unusually strong increase in the activity of the nervous system, an increase in physical and spiritual forces, in order to achieve the goal at least at the cost of personal death, which seems to me not quite, not always and not always everywhere. Such actions most often refer to the concept of decisiveness. The combination of mind, will, energy, self-control, perseverance, initiative, determination characterize the concept of courage.
    Cowardice is the lack of will and self-control, as a result of which - oblivion of military duty, self-esteem, manifestation of the dark sides of the instinct of self-preservation.
    Indecision - a fluctuation of willpower, leading to confusion and inaction. The charter requires and instructs that it is better to make a decision than not to do anything. The reproach deserves not the one who, in an effort to destroy the enemy did not achieve the goal, but the one who, fearing responsibility, remained inactive and did not use at the right time all the forces and means to achieve victory.
    Tradition and discipline are of great importance in educating the qualities of a true warrior.
    Tradition - documentary, verbal legends (legends) about military valor in the past, in the nature of this part in the present.
    The recruits are very receptive and impressionable, they are very strongly affected by the examples of old servants, conversations, stories, images and suggestion. Every person has a desire to imitate heroes. Education on the principles of imitation of examples of heroes of the past and present forms a rookie's traditional ideas and concepts of military prowess and the desire to be no worse and to serve, no worse than his predecessors, whom they remember with gratitude, tell legends, sing songs and exalt them as an image.
    Preserving, strengthening and multiplying traditions is the holiest duty and duty of the commander to the memory of his predecessors, who adorned the banner with glory at the cost of blood and life.
    Military prowess is a selfless determination to win, regardless of anything. Military valor is composed of discipline and courage, skill, health, strength, vigor. The military leader must strive to save manpower and material means, that is, to maintain moral, material and physical combat effectiveness in solving combat missions with the least losses.
    Discipline - the unification of all the forces of subordinates on the basis of duty. Consciousness of a warrior’s feeling is created by educating a soldier’s desire to distinguish himself by his impeccable performance of official duties, fun, cheerfulness, energy boost, neatness, fitness, as signs of domestic property, external brilliance, as a sign of love of honor, discipline as a sign of fidelity to duty, politeness, as a sign of nobility , temper, as a sign of determination, enthusiasm, as a sign of courage, obstinacy, as a sign of will and perseverance, narcissism, as a sign of love and honor.
    1. Kotyara Fat
      Kotyara Fat 16 July 2016 23: 43
      +7
      He makes his way to the bones ... There was a wise guy.
  29. pogis
    pogis 16 July 2016 22: 08
    +7
    The mind is given to many, and the heart is not to everyone. It is necessary to realize and explain to others that the war prevented many from embarking on the broad road of a happy, creative creative life, striking out the dreams of youth, so intelligibly that everyone’s hearts burned with a desire at any moment to be ready for exploits and self-sacrifice, without hesitation and regret, if this will require a setting.
    The commander is vitally connected with the soldiers whom he leads into battle, and he owes everything to them (and victory), so he must look at them first of all as fighting friends, be a leader, a fighter of a great soul, strong will.
    The main thing in fighting friendship is mutual understanding, respect for human dignity, and the desire to fairly elevate the deeds of a comrade, thereby raising oneself to great heroic deeds.
    The commander has many responsibilities. The main one is the education and establishment of friendship of fighters and the strengthening of friendly ties, the adhesion of units. Part strength in military friendship, comradely commissure.
    I gave brief definitions of all these elementary concepts. They will be supplemented with examples from the fighting life and, if necessary, comments. In the meantime, I will make a brief conclusion about everything said.
    1. The mind - knows, finds out, gives a task, plans, indicates methods and methods of action and means to achieve the goal.
    2. Will - activates the means, executes the order, supports the energy, that is, the will is a combination: the ability to make an independent decision, the ability to put the decision into practice.
    3. Feeling - increases useful activity, increases or decreases the productivity of work to higher stress or decline, inaction.
    4. Conscience - judges the extent to which a debt is fulfilled, causes a state of mind and activity - an increase or decrease in energy, as a result, vivacity (pride), a sense of consciousness of a fulfilled duty or oppression, depression by remorse under the weight of shame for unfulfilled duty. *
    What should be the commander, officer? Officers are divided mainly into three categories. I am referring to combatant, not civilian, uniforms who also wear epaulets. So: melee officers; tactical considerations and appointments officers; officers (generals) of operational thinking and appointment.
    In military literature, you will not find such a division of officers into categories, in any case, I have not met. It may be rude, but so it can be distributed. Each officer from this group has his place in battle order, his place in battle. The difference lies in the scope of leadership, in considerations and appointments in the service. For what scope of affairs the officer is intended, what is the scope of his duties.
    The commander is the brain of the troops, the organizer of the battle, the creator of victories. When I write or talk about a commander, I want to prove that the commander is a creative person. We call writers, artists, composers people of creative labor, but since we say that battle and war are not only science, but also art, why the organizer of this art is not a creator, why we will not call him a creative person. And in fact, the commander is a man of creative labor. The commander’s courage is in his mind and unwavering, unshakable will.
    Among other occupations of the commander, the main thing is to think, think and think. The officer should be not so much a fist-fighting soldier as a soldier of the mind. As the Kazakh proverb says, "You can kill one with a bayonet, but a thousand with your mind."
    The main duty of a commander before a battle is to instill courage in his subordinates. The main duty of the commander in battle is not to die, but to carry out the assigned combat mission, economically spending for this everything subject to him, according to the situation, taking into account real forces and capabilities, with the greatest energy voltage ...
  30. pogis
    pogis 16 July 2016 22: 14
    +2
    reference to this masterpiece of military thought
    http://archive.ec/E38Gz
  31. pogis
    pogis 16 July 2016 22: 45
    +3
    The instinct for self-preservation is a noble quality of all living things. True, in the conversation, some war correspondents said that the instinct for self-preservation breeds cowardice. I say "No. The instinct for self-preservation has a twofold side - it can also breed cowardice, but in the overwhelming majority of cases it breeds courage. True, this is an intermediate feeling. Why does a living person fight to the last, cling to life, even a drowning man, as they say, clings to a straw. In order to preserve themselves, they fight, attack, defend. Consequently, the instinct of self-preservation is the original engine, the desire to live, and is a noble quality of a person and not only a person, but also of all living things. Hence the interpretation is given: not to die, but to live. The desire to live pushes you to exploits, to risk - there is no victory without risk. In battle, life is not given to anyone, but is won. Therefore, kill those who want to kill you. Protect yourself, comrade in arms, compatriots by the destruction of the enemy, merciless destruction, revenge for evil with evil, for death by death, blood for blood. That is why in the first story I said: "A soldier goes into battle, not to die, but to live." That is why I say here that cowardice and courage are the result of the struggle of the instinct of self-preservation, and not because I wanted to deceive the soldier. That is why a comrade who doubts the credibility of my notes is wrong.
  32. Leonid Har
    Leonid Har 17 July 2016 08: 53
    +3
    You, people like Fidel Castro and Che Guevara, are legends themselves, and you drew inspiration from simple Soviet heroes. It is very flattering. It will be necessary to read a book about Mamysh Uly
  33. NordUral
    NordUral 17 July 2016 09: 32
    +5
    Such was the national question in the USSR. Thank you, grandfather!
  34. Titsen
    Titsen 17 July 2016 14: 23
    +3
    Yes, ahhhhhhhhhh, this was the OFFICER !!!!!!!!!!!
  35. andrewkor
    andrewkor 17 July 2016 15: 40
    +3
    Volokolamskoe Shosse is one of my favorite childhood books!
  36. Rostislav
    Rostislav 17 July 2016 15: 59
    +1
    Amazing person!
    Thanks to the author. It is vital for us to know as much as possible about the people who, through their feat, have preserved our country.
  37. japs
    japs 17 July 2016 17: 22
    +6
    This is a real article, it belongs to school history books! And not to SZHEZnitsynam.
  38. AlexanderBrv
    AlexanderBrv 17 July 2016 21: 55
    +1
    Good article. More such commanders in the Red Army!
    1. yegor_k
      yegor_k 18 July 2016 08: 08
      0
      Unfortunately, there will be no more ...
  39. Backfire
    Backfire 18 July 2016 04: 51
    +2
    Excellent article!
  40. zharov74
    zharov74 18 July 2016 16: 11
    0
    Nugget!!!!
  41. Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 19 July 2016 03: 48
    0
    To make nails out of these people: There wouldn’t be tighter in the world of nails.
  42. solovald
    solovald 19 July 2016 04: 58
    +1
    Once in the forum there was a topic about the Panfilov heroes and there was a mention in it of Alexander Beck. Found in the internet his story "Volokalamsk highway", etc. It is written very strongly, it feels like reading operational reports from the front.
  43. Jääkorppi
    Jääkorppi 27 July 2016 16: 42
    +1
    Soldiers of the Great Country! Low bow to them !!
  44. Apetkeev
    Apetkeev 23 September 2016 21: 05
    +1
    Our land is amazingly rich in talented and courageous people, but we descendants know so little about them.