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Do we have feudalism?

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Feudalism is a social system in which, among other things, the top has a practical irremovability on a clan basis. The top official is bad or good, it does not affect anything. The main thing that he was his. Of course, if he is completely seduced or fails, he will be pushed aside, sometimes even convicted. Well, they will give a deadline, and then, you see, they will knock off as a hero of the Battle of Thermopylae or for outstanding forms of bust, waist and hips.

Under feudalism, there is always a reserve for senior positions. It includes children occupying these positions. These children are immensely talented. No wonder they train in advance on "Gelendvagenah" do not care about the rules and regulations. And try to break the rules on the Lada Kalina! You immediately explain that there is nothing to climb with a pork snout in Kalashny series. And when asked why there is no such thing in Israel and Finland, they will say that you are not there.

Under feudalism, the most important thing is to find what you can sell there without special expenses, and leave part of the revenues where you sold (our foreign exchange reserves in the obligations of the western partners, which ordinary citizens consider to be enemies), distribute part of them according to their own (for salaries of hundreds of millions and bonuses to top managers), and the rest to throw to the electorate. Without the latter, it is impossible, and the electorate will remember that he is a people. Recall that there was such a country - the Soviet Union, where the subsoil was public property, the cleaner earned only four or five times less than the director of large-scale production, and her work week rarely lasted more than 20 hours, her son could go to the Moscow Technical Technical University and get an increased scholarship to 60 rubles at a cost of lunch in 30 — 35 kopecks and for a dormitory to pay one and a half rubles per month. The rates of economic growth in the USSR were higher than those of other countries of the world (although this was before the 80).

More feudalism likes to leave grandiose traces: mega-construction projects with unclear need, president-centers and so on. But the money in the production will not give: and suddenly stolen (see statements Kudrin)! It is better to open the EBN-center for a dozen "lard". As if in mega-projects they do not steal, and EBN-center stimulates patriotism.

That is why feudalism keeps the country’s money (gold and currency) with the enemies and waits for a development money from there. Well, he does not know any other way of development.

And under feudalism, higher persons can blur the truth. Here, memorable Gref called the country a downshifter. And nothing! None of those in power in his face said: “And you, dear man, who were these little years? Well, motivate from your post, and without a “golden parachute”, and even create a commission to investigate your activities. ”

There is nothing to say about Mr. Chubais with his statements at the corporate party about a lot of money.

Even feudalism teaches people to cultural twists and turns - but at least installing memorial plaques to the organizers of the blockade of cities. You look, and Poroshenko will adapt the board somewhere, under the sauce, that in Soviet times he helped the old woman to cross the street.

Maybe I am mistaken about the elements of feudalism, but it is this social formation that comes to mind.

Now - more serious. Our enemies are not just capitalism, but its highest stage — monopoly imperialism. Look at the development of the economy of our enemies and ours. A vivid example of the backlog ... our backlog.

Gross domestic product, growth in%:
Years: 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015.
Further relevant indicators:
United States: 3,5; 2,4; 1,8; 2,3; 1,5; 2,4; 2,6.
European Union: 4,1; 2,1; 1,7; –0,3; 0,2; 1,4; 1,8.
Russia: 7,8; 4,3; 4,3; 3,4; 1,3; 0,6; –3,9.

Consider that we already lag behind them two or three times qualitatively (gross product per person) and once every six or seven quantitatively, in terms of population.

And How? I'm scared. And not just scary, but scary. Now, if we developed by + 7% or more per year, and we had an active ambassador in Ukraine, and not a person entering the feudal elite, would the Maidan in Ukraine be possible? Not! Big egoists would see an example of a developing Russia, and our ambassador would not serve time, but work for the image of Russia. And 7% in the year of our development is quite real: gold and currency are there, natural minerals are a heap, people unoccupied, or engaged in nonsense, twenty to thirty million, China and Korea will sell modern production with increased productivity at times.

And then they lived! Labor productivity in China’s industry is greater than ours at times (!). And now on our main TV channels, incl. with state participation, in the films heroes only, ONLY: police, criminals, businessmen, "get-together". About those who produce - nothing. I believe that our media destroy the state. What do you think, capitalism, and especially socialism, will allow this, and even at the expense of the state?

What to do? And what is necessary. Go to the polls and vote for the future of the country. For the future of children, grandchildren. I will vote for the Communist Party. I do not like Zyuganov. But the communist idea, the idea of ​​true justice, will remain after his departure.

Read the programs of the main parties. The most "about nothing" - in the "ER", the most Russian - from the Communist Party.

And how can you relate to the ruling party, whose leader makes discoveries and says something like: “Mother, dear! And we still have problems with the production of drugs! We are still buying expensive components abroad! ”So I want to ask:“ My dear! And who have you considered the last decade and a half? ”Yes, there was a lot of stupid in the Soviet Union, but we didn’t wipe our feet about us, and we were not afraid of the future.

It will be objected that the maximum development was under a communist tyrant. What la la la la la la la la ... Yes. It was! Another thing is what size. I know one thing: the convict usually says that he suffered innocently. Only a few can say that they are convicted of the case. Or admit that guilty. And as for the tyrant, it is interesting that the majority of the Urals people consider Stalin to be the leader (in the high sense of the word). Maybe at the same time and a tyrant, but first LEADER. So I can’t imagine that under “tyrant Stalin” it was possible that for the treatment of children it was necessary to type the word “good” via SMS and send it to the 5541 number. I have seen a lot for my 70, but when they call to transfer 75 rubles in this way to save a crumb at annual revenues of state managers by a billion (!!!) a year ... I list on 5541, but you understand my thoughts perfectly and guess the expressions. Think about it.

For the future of our children and grandchildren, for Russia!
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  1. Vend
    Vend 15 July 2016 09: 57
    +14
    The most “about nothing” is the “ER”, the most Russian - the Communist Party.
    It seems that the struggle for the electorate has begun.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 15 July 2016 10: 08
      +4
      And notice, before every election. However, from a change in the places of the terms in the Duma and ministries of the means of production, etc. it doesn't get better and bigger. So "vote, don't vote, you'll still get ... a bagel."
      1. cniza
        cniza 15 July 2016 10: 15
        +6
        Quote: Wend
        The most “about nothing” is the “ER”, the most Russian - the Communist Party.
        It seems that the struggle for the electorate has begun.


        Undoubtedly, this is an election.
        1. My address
          15 July 2016 10: 53
          +65
          You are right, Victor hi .
          Sorry I did, but this is for many to read. Yes, it is for the election.
          I also asked not to chase ratings, but what happened - the first comment appeared in 2 (two) minutes.
          There are many accusations against me in promoting Zyuganov - where do I move him, or praise him?
          Supporters of Putin accuses me of all mortal sins, but where is the specifics?
          ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
          Guys and dear women!
          Well, respect yourself at least! Before writing a comment, read it and relate to the note! Let's not be like the USE graduates, as in yesterday's article by the associate professor of journalism at Moscow State University: "This year we have recruited aliens."
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 11: 10
            +1
            Quote: My address
            Yes, this is for the election.

            Sasha, please, tell me the country where the Communist Party has reached great heights - social, salaries, etc. wink
            PS China, you can’t name it; winked
            1. aleks700
              aleks700 15 July 2016 11: 21
              +50
              Sasha, please, tell me the country where the Communist Party has reached great heights - social, salaries, etc.
              the USSR
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 11: 41
                .
                Quote: aleks700
                the USSR

                Oh yes.
                Civil warrior killed about 20 million.
                Further general famine in Russia until the mid 30s.
                Hunger was over at 37, they began to plant and shoot.
                Then the warrior, no comment.
                Then again it’s not clear what. There is no truth, there remains Labor for three kopecks.
                Then the line for sausages.
                And the salary is 140 rubles, like my mother’s, which we had just barely enough.
                1. My address
                  15 July 2016 12: 26
                  +35
                  After my father died, my mother and I lived on her 100-110. She and her father were not painted, and therefore I was a cookie instead of a pension for the loss of a breadwinner. At the beginning of 60's, I entered the technical school, so we began to glam up, even to buy oil - an 20-trictable scholarship was added. But then, many poorly lived.
                  And in Israel - I feel sorry for Russia. A lot of friends left. There are 80 years, not a day did not work in Israel, but how they live!
                  What is their medicine! The impression that we are at war with everyone from 89, and Israel and 89 thrived in peace with its neighbors.
                  1. Grandfather Luka
                    Grandfather Luka 15 July 2016 13: 49
                    +30
                    Not feudalism, but rather nobility, a form of social order following the community-tribal system, formed in Rome in the 5-4th century BC. So think about the wheel of history. Or about deep degradation.
                    1. 16112014nk
                      16112014nk 17 July 2016 20: 13
                      +3
                      Quote: Grandfather Luka
                      Not feudalism, but rather nobility

                      Rather neo-feudalism with a bunch of kleptomaniacs in the manual.
                  2. Mavrikiy
                    Mavrikiy 15 July 2016 17: 09
                    .
                    Quote: My address
                    After the death of my father, my mother and I lived on her 100-110.
                    And in Israel - I feel sorry for Russia. A lot of friends left. There are 80 years, not a day did not work in Israel, but how they live!
                    What is their medicine! The impression that we are at war with everyone from 89, and Israel and 89 thrived in peace with its neighbors.

                    1. The cry of the soul, of course, is in solidarity. But why break chairs? Feudalism..."Under feudalism, the main thing is to find something that you can sell there without special costs, and leave part of the proceeds where you sold it." So this is my friend capitalism, go retrain.
                    2. "Feudalism is a social system in which, among other things, at the top there is practical irremovability on the basis of a clan." Well, what can you say - nobel prize, clean. If you think that it is different in primitive or capitalist societies, I will disappoint you one to one. No one has ever voluntarily given power, according to some idiotic laws, and will never give it up. And what's the difference between one clan or two, if they have an agreement, "today you, tomorrow I"?
                    3. “Consider that we are already two or three times behind them in quality (gross product per person) and six to seven times quantitatively, in terms of population. And how? I'm scared. What can I say, do not be afraid small? So I think you are under 70.
                    4. You have a failure to evaluate indicators and their significance for the life of the people. "Look at the economic development of our enemies and ours. A striking example of lagging ... our lagging behind." Example: I wear 10 shirts for 5 years. Abroad, a citizen changes shirts for this period of 100 pieces. So they have to do 10 times more than we do. I don’t need a new shirt every day. I protect nature. So let their economy soar, but we don’t need it.
                    5. "For 80 years, they have not worked in Israel for a single day, but how they live!" So go. But Russia does not need to be sorry. We are not on the porch. I repeat, u have a failure in values.
                    1. Dart2027
                      Dart2027 16 July 2016 08: 30
                      +5
                      Quote: Mavrikiy
                      No one has ever voluntarily given power, according to some idiotic laws, and will never give it up. And what's the difference between one clan or two, if they have an agreement, "today you, tomorrow I"?

                      This has been the case throughout the history of mankind.
                  3. ver_
                    ver_ 16 July 2016 12: 32
                    +10
                    You did not forget to mention that Israel receives subsidies from mattress mats annually and the Arabs plow the dirty work .. This is not an obvious point .. Israelis live in Israel, not Jews.
                    There is no nation Jewish- there is Jewishism-a way of life and worldview .. They need world Jewry .., and
                    who needs people who live well in Russia because of the "hillock" .. For centuries, because of the "hillock", "crusaders" have come to us ..., is there anything wrong?
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 16 July 2016 12: 48
                      +1
                      Quote: ver_
                      You did not forget to mention that Israel receives subsidies from mattresses annually

                      into service (American) and non-cash.
                      The United States does not allocate money for civilian purposes
                      Quote: ver_
                      and the Arabs plow on the "dirty work."

                      Strange. Well, this is who studied what.
                      Arabs in the economy are represented by judges in the Supreme Court and leading doctors - to plasterers - by the way, like Jews
                      Quote: ver_
                      . Israelis live in Israel, not Jews.

                      Foolish? belay with a capital letter, it's nice
                      Quote: ver_
                      No nation Jewish

                      Capitalized Again laughing
                      Quote: ver_
                      ... For centuries, because of the "hillock", "crusaders" have been coming at us ..., is there anything wrong?
                  4. PHANTOM-AS
                    PHANTOM-AS 18 July 2016 00: 47
                    +1
                    I fully agree and support the Author.
                    I just want to add that feudalism is colonial, we don’t even have our own money.
                    We rolled back to the beginning of the last century in all the basic parameters of life.
                    We have neither achievements, nor growth, but do not despair, under the current government, it will be even worse.
                    There is only television PR and rulers who have become soiled from their lack of accountability and impunity.
                    If we are not them, then we are waiting for absolute degradation and extinction.
                2. 34 region
                  34 region 15 July 2016 13: 12
                  +55
                  Romanov! 11.41. The dream of a monarchist to return the monarchy? Is Romanov a distant relative of Nicholas II? Let's say in the civilian died 20 million. And who is to blame? When after February 17th Russia began to split up into specific principalities, is all this good for the country? When white loans were given to Westerners, is that normal? When did White promise to sell to the West with giblets after the victory, is this right? when the interventionists took everything out of the country to chips, is that right? And the destroyed country after the whites and interventionists? Or can there be no famine in the wake of the devastation? They planted until the 37th. Or could it not be done? They were shot in the 37th. And who advocated the executions? Stalin was against executions, but some individuals voted FOR. Stalin obeyed the majority. And who proposed and voted for the execution? Those who thus wanted to remove competitors. At that time there was no solidity. And the methods of fighting the opposition were the same as under the king, prison, exile. And the fact that the innocent suffered is thanks to your liberal friends. They themselves voted for the executions. But it turned out that they themselves fell. Overslept the war? I think here again the liberal friends tried. Especially on the outskirts and the Baltic states they showed themselves. And today you can not talk about salaries today. Especially if the rent is equal to or exceeds the minimum wage. Is life better today?
                  1. aleks700
                    aleks700 15 July 2016 13: 59
                    +11
                    Romanov is me. And he whistled my name and surname.
                  2. ver_
                    ver_ 16 July 2016 14: 28
                    -2
                    ... and who, no matter how world Jewry staged a coup in 1917 in tsarist Russia. 85% of Jews were in the government of the Jew Blanca = Ulyanov ..
                3. aleks700
                  aleks700 15 July 2016 13: 56
                  +26
                  My salary is only from 140p. Just enough. Mass famine is not everywhere in the USSR. See India, the United States, etc. Hunger ended began to plant the perpetrators. Witch Hunt - USA. The ban on the profession of Germany. The outbreak of war - without comment.
                4. cyberhanter
                  cyberhanter 15 July 2016 15: 54
                  +35
                  Excuse me, was the civil war in the USSR or all the same on the ruins of the Russian Empire?
                  The famine 30 was apparently provoked by the Communists in your opinion?
                  War .. Apparently again we wanted to attack Hitler :)
                  Queues for sausage - this was already at the end when the USSR was falling apart. And most importantly - the vast majority of people apparently live better now? Nichrome. Yes, we have more affordable computers, cars and phones, but we don’t know what will happen tomorrow, it’s just scary to get sick!
                5. osoboye_mneniye
                  osoboye_mneniye 15 July 2016 18: 24
                  +26
                  Civil warrior killed about 20 million. - Is this a complaint to the USSR?

                  Further general famine in Russia until the mid 30s. - Is this a complaint to the USSR? And in the same place was the NEP (a relative of capitalism) was .. or forgotten? Maybe this is somehow connected? About the extent of previous shocks (intervention, export of gold, etc.) is tolerantly silent?

                  Hunger was over at 37, they began to plant and shoot. - Statistics to help you. The percentage of convicts is that then, which is now not very different. But there were more criminals then. Only now they’re not shooting. And the Criminal Code is softened - articles about betrayal of the motherland, fraud, parasitism, etc. do not work. Apparently, that's why we live well ..

                  Then the warrior, no comment. - The USSR also claims, presumably?

                  Then again it’s not clear what. - When it is not clear, it is better to ask or keep silent.

                  There is no truth, there remained Labor for three kopecks. - It seems that you have been deceived a lot. And when you talk about labor for three pennies, you should definitely keep silent about rest and terribly poor-quality food for 1,5 pennies, and about all kinds of rubbish such as housing, labor and social guarantees (also terribly low-quality) for 0 kopeks.

                  Then the line for sausages. - Where, darling without her. Ideally, all food products should be replaced with sausage. Sausage is our everything!

                  And the salary is 140 rubles, like my mother’s, which we had just barely enough. - Probably, you have a short sawn-off shotgun, since there was so little in it. In vain you boast so.
                  Without presenting, on your part, a short calculation of your monthly expenses in support of what you said about 140r and sawn-off, you might think that you are either hiding something or you are an impressionable dreamer.
                  1. Barmal
                    Barmal 16 July 2016 13: 32
                    -5
                    I remember how I spent two or three months buying winter boots for 60 rubles with a salary of 156 rubles. minus child support for one child. So what was said about the sawn-off shotgun in 140 re is just a clunker. In the late eighties it was a beggarly salary.
                    1. osoboye_mneniye
                      osoboye_mneniye 17 July 2016 16: 44
                      +5
                      Domestic shoes cost 20-30r. Import - 50-60 rub. Moreover, not made in china, but solid ones that have been around for several years. Well, for 150-200r there were shoes. But she still lives! Now this class of shoes costs ehh .. 40-50tr.
                      In general, the situation has not changed. So that...
                      You're lying (s)
                6. tupolev-95
                  tupolev-95 15 July 2016 19: 06
                  +26
                  And before that - only victories. Over the Japanese in 1905, over the Germans in 1914, the general literacy of the population, the growth rate went wild, they didn’t especially talk about the famine in the 1890s, nobody just considered it, but Russia bought fodder and bread for the army abroad. Ships for the fleet in front of Russian-Japanese in English shipyards were built in two! times faster than in Russian. And the war with Japan was fair, for the homeland or all the same for the gesheft especially close to the throne? And the ingenious idea of ​​a simultaneous attack in both East Prussia and Galicia, stupid Soviet marshals, could not have thought of such a thing. AND NOBODY WOULD.
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                8. igoryok1984
                  igoryok1984 16 July 2016 09: 51
                  +5
                  But in Russia, which we lost, there was no hunger? Was everything all right with education and affordable medicine for the majority of the population?
            2. My address
              15 July 2016 11: 47
              +47
              Alexander hi !
              There is no such country. Not now. But thirty years ago, it was the USSR. For example on social programs and education.
              Wages were not very much due to extra-wage funds (or how to call them?) - travel on the 5 kopek bus, and the entire passenger transport was subsidized (flight from Eburg to Simferopol somewhere 35 rubles and 120 resort ticket for three weeks) , housing and utility payments for 40% of costs (23 rubles for an apartment 80 squares of the total area for a family of 5 people) and other and other things. Around 1980, I earned 320-350. Pensioners did not bounce, but they didn’t have problems with paying for food and services.
              But yes, there was still an idiotic leveling. It was possible to have 120 rub / month for doing nothing, it is even in my Urals.
              By education I know personally - how many graduates of the Institute of Physics and Technology, UPI, fled to the west in the 90, so much has worked well there. There is nothing to say about MIPT, MEPI, MVTU, there the class was higher than UPI.
              About social elevators - yes, there was a lot of cronyism. But the director of the kindergarten teacher could have become the director of the metallurgical plant.
              For light industry only mat. The impression that only flawed oligophorenes were recruited into the leaders. For fixing the iron handle it was necessary to disassemble the iron.
              About the Communist Party you know my opinion. Rotten organization was, starting with the district committee of the city committee, and even higher ... I resisted for a long time from joining, but entered as in ..... under Gorbachev.
              There were a lot of stupid things, but more is good.
              I consider Zyuganov to be a opportunist. And I will vote for the idea, for our children and grandchildren, for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.

              Good luck to you.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 12: 03
                +1
                Quote: My address
                Salaries were not very due to extra-salary funds (or what to call them?)

                You are a rare communist, even a very rare one who recognizes this. But as for the social state, then Israel is such a social state that the USSR did not even dream about. Interesting, eyes will come out on the forehead. And mind you, without any Communist Party.
                Quote: My address
                About social elevators - yes, there was a lot of cronyism. But the director of the kindergarten teacher could have become the director of the metallurgical plant.

                Who are Putin's parents? wink
                Quote: My address
                I’ll vote for the idea,

                They don’t have an idea, you didn’t notice it.
                1. Parsec
                  Parsec 15 July 2016 13: 54
                  +12
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  But as for the social state, then Israel is such a social state that the USSR did not even dream about.


                  You are comparing the incomparable.
                  Pull the Vatican here.
                  1. igoryok1984
                    igoryok1984 16 July 2016 10: 00
                    +5
                    Better yet - Monaco
                2. cyberhanter
                  cyberhanter 15 July 2016 15: 59
                  +17
                  Sweden and Norway can be cited as an example. It’s hard to argue where it’s better - because the conditions are different. But what is now in the country is definitely not an option. And the fact that the author speaks purely about the program-only the Communist Party has it. How would they realize it is another matter, but the fact is that no one else has it, including the government's fact. Some slogans
                3. igoryok1984
                  igoryok1984 16 July 2016 09: 59
                  +7
                  So go and work there for 12 hours! And the first vacation - after 5 years 2 weeks. And do not forget, thanks to the position of WHICH country Israel was formed
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 16 July 2016 12: 53
                    +1
                    Quote: igoryok1984
                    So go and work there for 12 hours!

                    A normal working day is 8 hours, many remain on recycling mk for overtime pay well. Anyway, since when is it shameful to work?
                    Quote: igoryok1984
                    And the first vacation - after 5 years 2 weeks

                    No need to lie, the minimum vacation after the first year is 2 weeks.
                    Then after years of service is added
                    http://www.souz.co.il/israel/read.html?id=515
                    Quote: igoryok1984
                    And do not forget, thanks to the position of WHICH country Israel was formed

                    Another tale.
                    Well, and what role does this play in the duration of the vacation?
                4. boris117
                  boris117 16 July 2016 16: 14
                  +9
                  Uzhzhakmy Alexander. Of course there is an idea. Man is a social creature. The state can be built on biologic principles or on social, based on scientific research, problems of self-organization of complex systems. Capitalism is the pinnacle of a state built on the principles of the market, on the survival of the fittest. Grind the earth wild, immoderate consumption of the golden billion. It is necessary to build a society on scientific principles. The simplest problem, from the perspective of the transport problem, is the optimal location of production in the country. This placement should ensure minimal transportation costs for product movement. An insoluble task in any market state. And medicine, education, fair distribution of the manufactured product are not compatible with the market. Only state regulation of the main production forces based on scientific calculations can ensure the growth of production and the normal well-being of the bulk of the people.
                5. andrew42
                  andrew42 17 July 2016 16: 24
                  +4
                  "You are a rare communist, even a very rare one, who admits it." - Well, I'm never a communist, for example. I was not in the party, I honestly passed my Komsomol ticket in 1991, against the background of all this business of "former Komsomol agents". But since 2000 I have voted, and I will vote for the Communist Party. There is no alternative to socialism. However, we have a lot of confusion with the classification of formations. Then in relation to the means of production we classify, but we jump sharply to other signs. At the same time, we now have "Finnish socialism", then "Swedish", then "Israeli". And everyone puts their own in this concept. And it was based on the caste system, and it is tens of thousands of years. What forms the distribution of material wealth takes, and what kind of elite controls this process - that is the question. If you "look from above", then the author is right, there is feudalism, the country is ruled by clans of "seniors" who jumped out of the snuffbox of the broken USSR. If you look from below, there is a "comprador bourgeoisie" covered by the fig leaf of "My Russia". You hesitate to classify. - Do you need it? We need to think about what exactly we want to come to, what outrages we want to eradicate. Hence the new forms of social order that are in demand. At the moment it is obvious that only enterprises with state participation and control work at the very least. Technologies "emerge" only there (development of means of production), despite corruption, "managery" with golden parachutes, etc. But the efficiency of such an activity is scanty in comparison with what it could have been. And why? - Yes, because "the lower classes do not want to work this way." They do not want to work for the "golden parachutes" of the new feudal lords, whose seigneur comes from the inheritance of stolen capital, and the posts of cutting. And only the fact that these very "upper circles" still "can" out there, - only this does not lead to the very "revolutionary situation" that was taught in the Soviet school. Well, plus the information processing of the population (replacing the religion that "sanctifies" the power of the suzerain), and the presence of an order of magnitude more vicious foreign seniors. As a result, modern Russia (my beloved Motherland) is a very ugly, shaky "temporary house" construction today.
                6. PHANTOM-AS
                  PHANTOM-AS 18 July 2016 00: 56
                  +3
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Israel is such a social state that the USSR did not even dream about. Interesting, eyes on the forehead will come out. And mind you, without any Communist Party.

                  Well, what kind of bolt is being asked, our leaders have not done for 15 successful years, as in Israel?
                  We have everything in the country, and the people are poor and not socially protected. who is to blame? Isn't the state ?!
                  And one more thing about Israel, the better they live there, the worse we will live. With our bowels and resources we finance the whole world, not receiving anything in return, except candy wrappers.
                  If the state in Israel is better and more intelligent than ours, then we ask such a state and such power for us?
              2. kepmor
                kepmor 15 July 2016 12: 16
                +8
                The current Communist Party of the Russian Federation is under the "external control" of the Kremlin and has been for a very long time, since 2000.
                Uncle Zu's team is absolutely incompetent. These are the same nomenklatura people as the entourage of the "marked", BUT ... not traitors like Yakovlev with a Georgian!
                Remember the "hot congresses" and scandals in the Communist Party of the Russian Federation in the XNUMXs - even then ZGA wanted to be removed, but the "old square" did not allow it.
                He is well-fed, on a short leash in power, just like Zhirinovsky and Mironov!
                All these characters are very convenient for Putin and his entourage. Even if the Communist Party of the Russian Federation wins the United Russia, and this is from the realm of fantasy, the aliens will land on the Red Square, nothing dramatic will happen in the country! All levers of control, money and a repressive mechanism are under the "tsar" and his entourage. Therefore, the hypothetical victory of the communists will be "banquet"!
                Sadly, however, this is an indisputable fact ... the realities of our Russian reality!
                1. cyberhanter
                  cyberhanter 15 July 2016 16: 00
                  +10
                  Excuse me, how do you know this? I don’t trust the State Dignity Zyuganov, but personally I like the functionaries of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation more than the others, if only because they see the idea, they are not going to the Communist Party to build their future, like in the United Russia or at the time in the Communist Party
              3. Nikolay82
                Nikolay82 15 July 2016 13: 30
                +6
                no need to write about the whole light industry in that tone. There were enterprises (Krengolm, Narva) that supplied products to dozens of countries. Even with the bourgeoisie they worked for Western clients. At the same time, using raw materials of low quality and equipment, mostly "antediluvian". There were orders when the goods went directly to the consumer with the label "Made in Germania".
                Labor productivity can be calculated according to different formulas. Under modern capitalism (old Europe), productivity is 80% dependent on the owner of the enterprise and the engineers and technicians whom he hired. With low wages for production workers (less than 5 euros per hour), even with modern equipment and good engineering, production is not considered effective.
                The hourly wage of skilled workers in Scandinavia (which is not a socialist economy for you) comes to 80 euros per hour.
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              5. Passer
                Passer 15 July 2016 21: 00
                +18
                Quote: My address
                I consider Zyuganov to be a opportunist. And I will vote for the idea, for our children and grandchildren, for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.

                Zyuganov’s work is not particularly watched, although some of his statements are shocking, but there are many sensible ones. To the Communist Party itself, especially to the time of its establishment, there are also many unpleasant questions. But in the upcoming elections I will vote for the Communist Party. I explain why.
                I have been explaining to people that the country is sliding towards feudalism for three years already. I will not give all the arguments for this yet, the article will turn out to be large, but with free time I don't have much. But since we are officially building a capitalist society (however, nothing happens here either), sometimes mutually exclusive contradictions of the feudal system are superimposed on the contradictions inherent in the capitalist system. (Further, many clever and beautiful words should be inserted, but unfortunately there is no time.) The contradictions of the social system are resolved either by revolution from below, or by reforms - from above. There is no revolutionary situation (according to Lenin) for revolution from below YET, but this is still. Upstairs, such a feeling, they live in a parallel universe, they announced the "stabilizer", and on the lower ones they were "parallel". Well, I will vote for the Communist Party not because I like Gennady Andreyevich so much (this is not), but in order to be up there (they consider themselves "elite", but as practice shows, what comes up is not always cream ) descended a little from heaven to earth, assessed the mood in society and understood what the policy pursued by them could lead to.
                PS Although there is no doubt that United Russia will gain 146%.
              6. oking
                oking 16 July 2016 20: 49
                -9
                Quote: My address
                Salaries were not very due to extra-salary funds (or what to call them?) - travel by bus was 5 kopecks, and all passenger transport was subsidized (the flight from Eburg to Simferopol was about 35 rubles and the resort ticket for three weeks was 120 rubles) ,

                So what? But things, equipment (the cost of cars was generally prohibitive) and products (except for the "basket of the border of survival") were insanely expensive. And this despite the fact that the USSR during the "first peak in oil and gas prices" literally bathed in petrodollars. He literally littered them left and right. All the "friends" have risen quite well on this. Except for Sovdep's Whatmen, of course. They were entitled to a "soup set" (bones with the remains of cut meat) at an exorbitant price and potatoes (this one is cheap). Whatmen lived from such nutrition very little, despite the "best medicine in the world", which for the most part could not and could not do nifiga. And it was not aimed at the "main mass".
                And before the "first peak" life in the USSR was dull and half-starved. As well as after the "first peak" passed, and the prices for hydrocarbons returned to normal values.
                Quote: My address
                Around 1980, I earned 320-350.

                You could receive this money. But there are big doubts that you earned them. The normal earnings of average engineers in the USSR in those years were 190-200 rubles.
                Quote: My address
                Pensioners did not shout, but they had no problems with paying for food and services

                The pensioners had a woolen carpet on the wall and a crystal vase in the closet. And a pair of worn pants. Most of the bulk had nothing else. And for "bad behavior" they could easily be asked from the STATE living space to move into a barrack. Almost all Whatmen had a rented apartment, not their own.
                Quote: My address
                how many graduates of the physical education department UPI fled to the west in the 90s, how many settled there well.

                Education is not necessary here. Most of them do not work in their specialty. Even if he says that by profession.
                Quote: My address
                In light industry only mat.

                For any industry so. Even on the "legendary" defense. There is no need to make exceptions where there were none.
                Quote: My address
                A rotten organization was, starting with the district committee of the city committee, and even higher ...

                Why then? I was well acquainted with the two first secretaries of the district committees. They were very worthy people. But in their "monastery" there were barbaric customs. And they could do nothing about it.
                Now one lives in the USA, the second, if I am not mistaken, in Germany. For some reason, communism is not being built there.
                Quote: My address
                And I will vote for the idea, for our children and grandchildren, for the Communist Party.

                The future belongs to "socialism", i.e. pseudo-religious feudalism? Do you have a calendar at home? Have you already noticed that the 21st century is in the yard? Neo-colonialism has been sweeping the planet for 100 years. Feudal countries with any form of government in the 21st century are simply doomed to be neo-colonies. And nothing will save them from this. Nothing at all.
            3. 34 region
              34 region 15 July 2016 12: 52
              +11
              Romanov! 11.10. Well, in which countries is a good social network a cap? On whom can and should we look like? How are they working shift, paying sick leave, paying leave, paying maternity leave and caring for a child, as with spa treatment and prevention, as with housing and its payment, as with kindergarten and school? How about work and unemployment? What taxes and fines are there? If it’s so good in the West, then why are there no articles on life there? Why are Western scholars so shy to talk about life there? Maybe because there is nothing good there? Maybe that's why?
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 13: 54
                .
                Quote: Region 34
                Well, in which countries is a good social network a cap?

                To Israel!
                Quote: Region 34
                How are they working shift, paying sick leave, paying leave, paying maternity leave and caring for a child, as with spa treatment and prevention, as with housing and its payment, as with kindergarten and school?

                At the highest level, we can only dream about this for now.
                1. Nikolay82
                  Nikolay82 15 July 2016 14: 45
                  +13
                  since two Jewish families from Estonia, having lived for several years in Israel, nevertheless moved to Sweden. Social in Sweden turned out to be better. hi
              2. Nikolay82
                Nikolay82 15 July 2016 14: 08
                +3
                if you are ready to work in production as a main production worker, then everything is fine. Salary from 2,5 thousand euros per month, this is Scandinavia, Germany, France. In Eastern Europe, patches range from 300 to 2000 euros. Depends on country and region. Since Estonians go to work in large quantities in Finland, one can say about the Finns. The locals do not want to work for 2000 euros gross per month. Products cost about the same as in the Leningrad region "+ / _". The apartment is 2-room per month, 500 - 700 euros. Tax on an annual salary: less than 16 thousand = 0, 16 - 24 thousand = 6%, 24 - 39,6 thousand = 17%, 39,6 - 71,3 thousand = 21,4%, 71,3 - 100000 thousand = 29,7%, over 100000 thousand = 31,7%. 65 years old pension for men and women. 620 euro national pension. The average pension is over 1300 euros.
                1. oking
                  oking 16 July 2016 19: 48
                  -8
                  Quote: Nikolay82
                  Locals do not want to work even for 2000 euros gross per month. Products cost about the same as in the Leningrad region "+ / _". The apartment is 2-room per month, 500 - 700 euros. Tax on an annual salary: less than 16 thousand = 0, 16 - 24 thousand = 6%, 24 - 39,6 thousand = 17%, 39,6 - 71,3 thousand = 21,4%, 71,3 - 100000 thousand = 29,7%, over 100000 = 31,7%. 65 years old pension for men and women. 620 euro national pension. The average pension is over 1300 euros.

                  Vi fsё nahlo vriote. Without communists, "socialisms" (in its initial stage it was a pseudo-religious type of slave-owning system, and in the final stage, a pseudo-religious type of feudalism, if briefly and without ideological snot) and a mustachioed katso, this cannot be. Any Whatman is well known from the cradle, it is impossible to live better than under "socialism". This was perfectly visible on the TV news.
                  But whatmen were not allowed abroad. In order not to upset. And not to run away. From your "happiness".
              3. cyberhanter
                cyberhanter 15 July 2016 16: 00
                +7
                No need to follow anyone, you need to do better than now. Is always
            4. cyberhanter
              cyberhanter 15 July 2016 15: 54
              +6
              Well, only those regions in which the Communist Party is in power flourish in India .. Well, that’s the way, by the way :) Well, seriously, the USSR is a prime example.
            5. laogun
              laogun 17 July 2016 09: 42
              +4
              My answer is simple and concise - the Communist Party has reached incredible heights in the USSR. And, if you are going to try to get out of the way, look into the socket from which your computer is powered - these are the specific heights of the CPSU. Without them, you would not exist at all now, for your potential parents would have been destroyed by the German fascists already at the stage of grandparents ..
              1. oking
                oking 17 July 2016 14: 55
                -3
                Quote: laogun
                The Communist Party reached incredible heights in the USSR. And, if you are going to try to get out of the way, look into the socket from which your computer is powered - these are the specific heights of the CPSU.

                Strange affair. The CPSU never steered in Zimbabwe. And there was electricity. Do you think Zimbabwe was powered by the USSR Embassy?
                Oh, shy to ask, USA?
                Quote: laogun
                Without them you would not exist at all now, for your potential parents would have been destroyed by the German fascists already at the stage of grandparents ..

                Really? Aren't you embarrassed by the fact that in WW1 the Germans did not even reach the Smolensk region, but in WW2, they even reached Moscow, Leningrad and the Volga? Is this a "merit" of the Communist Party or not? Or do you consider this fact a purely positive phenomenon?
                Quote: laogun
                My answer is simple and concise.

                Sometimes it's better to chew than talk.
            6. filalex79
              filalex79 18 July 2016 08: 00
              +1
              I answer. THE USSR!
          2. Vend
            Vend 15 July 2016 11: 13
            0
            Quote: My address
            You are right, Victor hi .
            Sorry I did, but this is for many to read. Yes, it is for the election.
            I also asked not to chase ratings, but what happened - the first comment appeared in 2 (two) minutes.
            There are many accusations against me in promoting Zyuganov - where do I move him, or praise him?
            Supporters of Putin accuses me of all mortal sins, but where is the specifics?
            ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
            Guys and dear women!
            Well, respect yourself at least! Before writing a comment, read it and relate to the note! Let's not be like the USE graduates, as in yesterday's article by the associate professor of journalism at Moscow State University: "This year we have recruited aliens."

            If this article was not published during the elections, then personally my reaction would be different. And so what with the fact that my comment appeared after 2 minutes, as I saw it, I wrote it. And self-respect is the expression of one’s own opinion and responsibility for it. I think so.
          3. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 11: 24
            -9
            Quote: My address
            where do I move it, or do I praise it?

            From the article.
            . I will vote for the Communist Party
            Quote: cniza
            It seems that the struggle for the electorate has begun.

            Undoubtedly, this is an election.

            And below is the answer
            Quote: My address
            You are right, Victor


            Further from the article
            The most “about nothing” is the “ER”, the most Russian - the Communist Party.
            It’s somehow strange, you are for the Communist Party, but against Zyuganov, despite the fact that Zyuganov is the head of the Communist Party. Slippery, can't you find?
          4. My doctor
            My doctor 15 July 2016 12: 11
            +4
            Quote: My address
            Guys and dear women!
            Well, respect yourself at least!

            Sincerely, but I believe that the development of the country generally does not depend on the political system or on the supreme commander in chief.
            It's all about the elite. If a person strives for something, and makes every effort to achieve the goal, then he has more chances than the one who does not strive for this. In this regard, it is precisely those people who did not want to identify themselves with the rest of the people who fall into the elite, which is why they did their best to live differently. Therefore, they and the elite stick out the difference in welfare between them and the rest of the people, since achieving this gap was their main goal in life. As you know, a positive reduction in the gap (by increasing the living standards of the population) will again spur the elite to increase personal well-being to restore the previous difference.
            Even in a socialist state, applicants were sifted to the top according to the criteria of their business qualities, and the sympathies of a superior. So, a very useful quality for social growth is initiative, as they say under a lying stone, water does not flow, and it’s already how lucky it is to what extent his business qualities will be directed to the country's benefit or only for personal benefit.
            In Russia, due to geographically and historically developed conditions, it is very unlikely that anyone who breaks to the top will take care of the main weight population.
            1. atalef
              atalef 16 July 2016 12: 56
              +1
              Quote: MyVrach
              Respect, but I believe that the development of the country generally does not depend on the political system as well as on the supreme commander.

              And from whom else?
              And if it doesn’t depend, then why is he not needed at all?
              Quote: MyVrach
              If a person strives for something, and makes every effort to achieve the goal, then he has more chances than the one who does not strive for this.

              Captain obvious
          5. nadezhiva
            nadezhiva 15 July 2016 12: 16
            +6
            Quote: My address
            Sorry I did, but this is for many to read. Yes, it is for the election.
            You propose voting for Zyuganov. Good. Is there any certainty that Mr. Zyuganov will not merge his result again? Is there any confidence in his sanity when making difficult political decisions? For many years, the Communist Party has been advertising exclusively one person. At the same time, absolutely not focusing on the team. The slogans are perfect. But these are just slogans. Who will execute them and most importantly How?
          6. Simple
            Simple 15 July 2016 15: 25
            -6
            Quote: My address
            Guys and dear women!

            you wrote a little about feudalism.
            Expand the topic in more depth: name, position (state), ownership of a share of the country
            Quote: My address
            The first comment appeared in 2 (two) minutes.

            herd syndrome
            1. Passer
              Passer 15 July 2016 21: 22
              +3
              Quote: Just
              Expand the topic in more depth: name, position (state), ownership of a share of the country

              What is this about? Do you generally know how the feudal system differs from the slave or, say, capitalist?
              Under the feudal system, a vassal (name, position (state)) does not own a share of the country, but receives from his overlord land with residents (district, region, "share of the country") for "feeding".
          7. Eragon
            Eragon 15 July 2016 16: 31
            +9
            Quote: My address
            Well, at least respect yourself! Before writing a comment, read it and correlate with a note!

            I respect you and myself, I read the article, but what does feudalism have to do with it? What is happening in Russia, and in Ukraine, and Belarus, even remotely, even parody cannot be compared with feudalism. If you think that the vassal in his feud did what he wanted without bearing any responsibility, then I'm sorry, you do not know anything about this topic.
            And in the post-Soviet space we have a caricature of the monarchy. Moreover, the caricature is not in the form of satire, but as a wild reality. The "tsar" and his entourage sit in the capital, occasionally going out to communicate with the people (messages, press conferences), governors in the provinces as they can observe the interests of landowners and merchants (oligarchs and "big businessmen"), not forgetting themselves loved ones (they just steal, take bribes). And the workers and peasants - do not care from the high bell tower, the main thing is that they do not bark and do not die too much, otherwise they will start to rebel.
            Only under a normal monarchy, the king was responsible for everything, his vassals had responsibilities, for the failure of which they often paid their heads, including for the plague of people or for a small tax collection due to negligence or poor management of this vassal. And the president and the governors are not responsible for anything, they are temporary workers. Managed and dumped, then at least the grass does not grow.
          8. Hlavaty
            Hlavaty 15 July 2016 21: 03
            +8
            Quote: My address
            There are many accusations against me in promoting Zyuganov - where do I move him, or praise him?


            It's just that the people of the Communist Party are associated with Zyuganov. And this is the first symptom that should have alerted you as a communist (or sympathizer).

            Just think: today, communism in Russia is associated not with Lenin (USSR, etc.), but with the full snout of Zyuganov !!!!! This is called sailed!

            You fell for the name "Communist Party", but in fact this name does not reflect the essence of the group of people who gathered under this signboard.
            You are a person of age. Most likely, you had to study the works of Lenin and other theorists of the communist movement. Remember what they wrote about the methods of struggle, the principles of ideological work ... At least do you see any of this in the performance of the Communist Party ??? Where is agitation, work circles, strikes, etc. etc.??????

            In Ukraine, we also had a Communist Party (Communist Party of Ukraine). And her leader was also an impressive man. With a young blonde wife. With funding from our oligarchs. So what? When the maidan descended, he hid in the slot and sat quietly. No working communist squads opposing the Nazis were visible, the Communist Party of Ukraine was not noted in the Crimean events, nor in the Donbass.
            Then, when everything calmed down, he tried to munch a little, so the new authorities simply banned his party. And he wiped himself !!!!

            Do you think Zyuganov and his Communist Party will behave differently if trouble comes to you in Russia? Or do you think that Zyuganov and Co. are not kept by the oligarchs? What is the difference between the Communist Party faction in the Duma and other liberal factions?

            You and I have lived to the point that before we can agitate for the current "communists", we must first make sure that they are really communists. And not some mummers. This is only possible by their deeds.

            If in all their cases you were able to type only the writing of the "correct" program, then you are being fooled in the most impudent way. Look better at how they solve the real problems of the Russian people.
            Have you looked? ... At least something is visible? ...
            1. SCHWERIN
              SCHWERIN 16 July 2016 10: 30
              +1
              Yeah, exactly. From year to year, the same incantations: "We have a powerful team, etc."
          9. stas
            stas 16 July 2016 06: 32
            +4
            The author is essentially very right.
            I would like to have in Russia not only a good president and good weapons.
            I would like the government with the chairman, pensions and salaries, education and medicine to be good too.

            And it turns out the car seems to be good, but it is a reptile, even with a tugboat does not always start.

            Before the election, of course, there will be many lies and promises.
            But if the EP consuming Russia does not become the largest in the EP, then changes for the better are possible.

            It’s time for Putin to decide and do what the people expect of him, and not what the oligarchs and elite want — thieves in law.
          10. derik1970
            derik1970 17 July 2016 12: 12
            +1
            good 100% true! hi
          11. Tartary
            Tartary 17 July 2016 12: 26
            0
            Uncle Sue at the Communist Party Congress announced the upcoming shit in advance and immediately declared that the next day after the election, mass rallies of Communist supporters would be held ...
            You in your 70s also gathered on the Russian Maidan?
            Castrulu have already been selected in the form of their head nipple?)))
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      3. Alex777
        Alex777 15 July 2016 11: 33
        +12
        Back in 1985, at the festival of youth and students, one Greek told me that democracy is possible only in small countries with the opposition of 2 large systems.
        We, he said, receive preferences from you, and from America we receive and everything is fine with us.
        And you, he continued, as in the USA there can’t be democracy simply because the countries are too big ...
        The point of view is not certain, but interesting.
        I remember the USSR well. What was not the feudal system?
        Remember the nomenclature! But what, a joke about the son of a general who can become a general, but cannot become a marshal because the marshal also has children - is this not a Soviet joke?
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 15 July 2016 12: 28
          +8
          I remember the USSR well. What was not the feudal system?


          Do you remember the late USSR. And there was also Stalinist. Then the generals became quite themselves people from the people. On the other hand, not everyone can be generals. Someone needs to water the privates in the trench from the Kalash. And social elevators were real. A general, not a general, but a "colonel" ... My father, the son of a simple primary school teacher, was a member of the city committee of the Komsomol. And the prospects were appropriate. True, he did not go further along the party line, although they actively promoted it. He left to study at KIIGA. And when he returned, the holy place is never empty.
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 16 July 2016 08: 36
            +1
            Quote: alicante11
            Do you remember the late USSR. And there was also Stalin.

            The key word is "Stalinsky". There was Stalin and there was the USSR, and when he died or was killed, then degradation began.
        2. godun
          godun 15 July 2016 12: 41
          +16
          And now you try to become a general, there will not be enough money. And about the anecdote, read the biographies of the highest command staff of the USSR, you will find a lot of generals from the "people". And according to the article, when they tell me that it was bad in the USSR, I always ask, tell me what is better now. And about salaries, my mother, working on a state farm as a milkmaid, received 200-280 in winter and up to 380 in summer, and in general, whoever wanted to make money worked, but now the salary depends little on how much and how you work.
      4. Pavel1
        Pavel1 15 July 2016 12: 17
        +11
        strange people have gathered here an article like about "feudalism" in our time, about the fact that the rich have not written laws, about a decrease in the country's GDP with such a leadership, about a red condom, about a curl removed, but not finished, about the fact that it is actually SCARY to live, but the discussion is about the Communist Party, how bad it is ...
      5. Svyatoslavich
        Svyatoslavich 15 July 2016 12: 29
        -5
        This is so.
        The Communist Party of the Russian Federation is an integral part of the political system of the current "feudalism". His support.
        By voting for the Communist Party you are voting for EDRu.
        1. stas
          stas 16 July 2016 06: 37
          +4
          Zyuganov is not eternal, he is not Kashchei the Immortal.

          Zyuganov now has almost no party members, judging by the membership fees.

          But you need to vote in order to drive EP far and rudely, in Russian.
      6. cyberhanter
        cyberhanter 15 July 2016 15: 53
        +1
        Not certainly in that way. If the government rotated, the United Russia - the Liberal Democratic Party - the SR - the Communist Party and nothing has changed - you would be right. but the bottom line is that the EP has been in power for many years and is getting worse. That is, stupid voting for "good people" who, in fact, turn out to be not good - maybe this is stupidity on the part of the electorate? I will not argue, but there are no changes in the terms, as you say, which means that your words are definitely not correct
    2. Bath
      Bath 15 July 2016 10: 14
      +26
      The article is certainly correct, but in our case, this is a booth look in our case, Uncle Zyu laughed at once that he is worried about Russia in any game, and the hosts in this game always win the game, so nothing changes anyway the Caucasus will give 105% for EP in other regions, the required 68 percent (We eat Russia) will gain
      1. Slavin
        Slavin 15 July 2016 10: 23
        +10
        The idea of ​​justice and equality and dissatisfaction with the current state of affairs gives the Communist Party good chances if it weren’t for Papa Sue to win, but if he means it to someone, then? Poll from newspaper Look
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 10: 29
          -7
          Quote: Slavyn
          affairs gives the Communist Party good chances

          All communists are sitting on the forums, and on the street ask, for the Communist Party 0 whole, hell tenths. At local rallies of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, from the strength of three dozen prisenyvany dream of cloning Lenin laughing
          1. NDR-791
            NDR-791 15 July 2016 10: 58
            +3
            We already had a "red thought" and a "red belt" and "red directors", only there were no cases. And under them the landslide destruction of production began. And their cry that they are not allowed (WHO !!! With the majority in the Duma ???) to adopt and enforce such people's laws spread throughout Russia.
          2. NordUral
            NordUral 15 July 2016 11: 27
            +15
            Alexander, and lying is not good. You correctly said that the people are bruised, who is what. So this people is afraid and no longer believes in anything, but others are so bruised.
            But if he were at the head of the Communist Party, Stalin, or a leader comparable to him, then 70-80% of the people would vote for him.
            Zyuganov needs to clear the way for young people in the party, I think that she will find a leader worthy of the tasks of our very filthy time.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 12: 05
              -9
              Quote: NordUral
              . So this people is afraid and

              Yeah, it’s noticeable in your comments how he’s afraid. If it weren’t for Sait’s rules, then you watered power with mats. Probably from fright.
              Quote: NordUral
              But be at the head of the Communist Party, Stalin,

              Well, here they offered to clone wassat
            2. Ami du peuple
              Ami du peuple 15 July 2016 12: 12
              +4
              Quote: NordUral
              ..the people are bruised, who is what. So this people is afraid and no longer believes in anything
              The people are not bruised, the people already frankly do not care.
              14.06.2007 13:42
              Moscow. 32% of Russians believe that practically nothing depends on their vote in the elections, all the main decisions will be made without them. Such data was received by the All-Russian Center for the Study of Public Opinion (VTsIOM), having conducted a study on the issue of elective power.
              A third of the population is very large and further, while maintaining the existing order of things, will be much more. Indeed, in a feudal state, nothing depends at all on the peyzanin (that is, smerd in our opinion), everything depends on the will of the senior and the whim of his proteges (clerk, tiun, etc.). Well, at least, at least, we are still personally free citizens - there is an opportunity to give up everything and chuck "into the wild, in the pampas." Until the slave collar was put on the neck.
          3. Bongo
            Bongo 15 July 2016 12: 17
            +22
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            All communists are sitting on the forums, and on the street ask, for the Communist Party 0 whole, hell tenths. At local rallies of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, from the strength of three dozen prisenyvany dream of cloning Lenin

            Hi Sasha! I perfectly remember life in the USSR, and not everything I liked then. But, what is happening in our country now does not suit me categorically. If nothing is changed, then we simply have no future. That is why I will most likely vote for the Communist Party, although personally Zyuganov is completely unsympathetic to me.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 12: 24
              -3
              Quote: Bongo
              . That is why I will most likely vote for the Communist Party, although personally Zyuganov is completely unsympathetic to me.

              Hi Sergey! voting for a coward and a jerk is stupid. Morality, first of all, should change among people and their attitude towards others.
              Look at the forum, give them free rein, they will cut each other out.
              1. Bongo
                Bongo 15 July 2016 12: 31
                +15
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Hi Sergey! vote for a coward and a moron is stupid. Morality in the first place should change with people.

                Sasha, what is the matter of the current leadership leading us into the abyss to your or my morality? what Or is it itself highly moral? No.
                The goal of any government is to remain in power, the current leadership has ruled for more than 15 years and is not going to leave of good will. As you know, the irremovability of any government leads to its irresponsibility. If we cannot change power peacefully, can we signal it (scare)? That is why I will vote for the Communist Party, although I repeat Zyuganov I absolutely do not like it! negative
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 13: 59
                  -8
                  Quote: Bongo
                  and what matters to the current leadership leading us into the abyss to your or my morality

                  We can only send the country into the abyss by embracing a revolution or, as Zyug suggests, nationalizing everything. Chavez did exactly what Zyug suggests. God forbid Russia to do this. It was beautiful in words, but it turned out quite the opposite.
                  Quote: Bongo
                  . If we cannot change power in a peaceful way, can we signal it (scare)?

                  Start with the fact that you need to change the authorities in the country without undermining the economy?
                2. Ivan Ivanov
                  Ivan Ivanov 15 July 2016 14: 23
                  +1
                  Quote: Bongo
                  As you know, the irremovability of any government leads to its insanity

                  Optionally, there are examples of successful enterprise management for a long time.
                  1. pv1005
                    pv1005 15 July 2016 19: 16
                    +2
                    Quote: IvanIvanov
                    Quote: Bongo
                    As you know, the irremovability of any government leads to its insanity

                    Optionally, there are examples of successful enterprise management for a long time.

                    That's exactly what EXAMPLE, not AXIOM. hi
              2. Nikolay82
                Nikolay82 15 July 2016 16: 49
                +1
                why cut it? There are other methods of influencing the object ... negative
          4. Ivan Ivanov
            Ivan Ivanov 15 July 2016 14: 20
            +11
            It is strange why so, communism is the right idea: equal opportunities and rights for everyone. Under capitalism without money, there is only one right - to rummage through garbage dumps. Capitalism is always stratified by property, about 70 years ago communism was popular. The West realized the threat for itself in time, it became divided, they have socialism in many ways.
            If everything was so bad, how did you become a superpower, having a third of the country destroyed in 1945? (without any external help, on the contrary, 40% of the countries themselves helped)
          5. stas
            stas 16 July 2016 06: 38
            +2
            Damn tenths is Zu, and the idea of ​​social justice is necessary for Russia.
        2. CONTROL
          CONTROL 15 July 2016 10: 50
          +36
          Quote: Slavyn
          The idea of ​​justice and equality and dissatisfaction with the current state of affairs gives the Communist Party good chances if it weren’t for Papa Sue to win, but if he means it to someone, then? Poll from newspaper Look

          The Communist Party was discredited by the ideas of communism and socialism that were not promoted to it, the ideas of social justice - but people who betrayed these ideas!
          1. Altona
            Altona 15 July 2016 11: 52
            +8
            Quote: CONTROL
            The Communist Party was discredited by the ideas of communism and socialism that were not promoted to it, the ideas of social justice - but people who betrayed these ideas!

            -------------------
            And in "United Russia" were all non-partisans under Soviet rule? On the contrary, it is the party of former Komsomol, trade union and party officials of the highest rank. And now their children.
        3. Saratoga833
          Saratoga833 15 July 2016 19: 54
          +6
          The CPRF rating of 24% is not because it is led by the party Zyuganov. Zyuganov is an old senile, unable to lead any changes. Human physiology is such that after 60 years, he is physiologically not capable of any kind of progress. All discoveries were made by people aged 25-35 years. They vote for the Communist Party because only this party has an IDEA, there is a GOAL and there is a PROGRAM! Lead the party as a young, ideologically convinced leader - the party’s rating will increase many times over!
          And about United Russia, she surfaced on a muddy wave of the 90s. And people who had crossed over into it were never ideological communists and were not former, who were opportunists and remained the same. Let’s say that Just Russia will become the leading party - all these bureaucrats and opportunists, who are members of the United Russia, will immediately spit on the United Russia and immediately become members of the ruling party! The EP rating is due to the huge administrative resource of this party, which has neither IDEAS, GOALS, nor PROGRAMS, only populist slogans! And nothing more.
      2. Shm
        Shm 20 July 2016 16: 28
        0
        This is not the Caucasus that gives 105% for United Russia, but those who appointed Moscow, so they draw the percentages that are required in Moscow
    3. razmik72
      razmik72 15 July 2016 10: 20
      +23
      Quote: Wend
      The most “about nothing” is the “ER”, the most Russian - the Communist Party.
      It seems that the struggle for the electorate has begun.

      The author of the article sets out the correct thoughts, but draws practically opposite conclusions for his article, urging to vote for the Communist Party. If Comrade Stalin was alive and by some miracle he came to power today, he would not hesitate to put the same current "communists" as revisionists and counterrevolutionaries against the wall. Agree with me, looking for those ardent revolutionaries of the early 20th century in today's "communists" is somewhat ridiculous and they obviously do not pull the role of the heirs of Joseph Vissarionovich. For all his mistakes and shortcomings, Stalin did not keep money abroad, did not put up with the squandering of state funds, treated all the peoples of the USSR exactly, severely punished for manifestations of nationalism, regardless of nationality. Comparing Stalin and Zyuganov is already too much. Another thing is if the CPRF finds the strength and replaces its leader and, having come to power, will begin radical transformations, but without the excesses of Comrade Stalin.
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 15 July 2016 10: 43
        +11
        Quote: razmik72
        Another thing, if the Communist Party will find the strength and replace its leader and having come to power, he will begin radical transformations, but without the excesses of Comrade Stalin.


        Hmm ... But you don't think that Zyu's dad, in full accordance with modern trends, managed to patent the name "KPRF" for himself and is still suing his "comrades-in-arms" for still "grating" payment in his favor for using " patented "name? laughing fellow

        Why am I laughing ... A week ago it was said that as many as 24 (!!!) parties are going to the elections ... Can you imagine how many "fighters" for the people's happiness were manifested ???

        The programs contain only slogans, absolutely not supported by anything ... Blah blah blah ... Moreover, they are very similar to each other ...

        This personally has already bored me ... This race for power and, accordingly, money, which is committed with our hands and through our pockets ... The wild expenses of election campaigns committed with only one goal - to achieve power and wealth ...

        I don’t believe anyone already ... And the Zyuganov’s communists - all the more ... They don’t have 1% of those communists who at one time made a country that they feared and respected ...
      2. NordUral
        NordUral 15 July 2016 11: 29
        +10
        I have a suspicion that the "excesses" of Comrade. Stalin's - this is actually the excesses of completely different "comrades".
    4. g1v2
      g1v2 15 July 2016 11: 13
      -6
      That is yes. Now they will tell us how the Communist Party will change life for the better. Of course, those who remember how the top party sold the USSR, dreaming of castles and yachts, are unlikely to buy it. But those who do not remember this, or those who were not interested in politics and what is happening in life in general, can buy it. For them, the USSR is nostalgia and a created image that is not related to the real. Of course, the Communist Party has nothing to do with the Communists, and in principle it is simply a stagnant left-bourgeois party. But why try to revive this dead man I do not understand - in the best case you get zombies. The doctor said to the morgue - then to the morgue. Moreover, the fact of the death of the CPSU does not put an end to leftist ideas in principle, but in the coming years they will not bring anything good. About 50 years later, some new socialism may be, but the old has already died. hi
      And as for the standard of living - as a person who remembers the 80s and 90s, I answer for the bazaar - as good as it is now, the bulk of the population of Russia did not live NEVER - not with the union or with the kings. The streets are clogged with cars, in ribbons and fives people with wheelbarrows - this certainly was not in the union. THERE WAS MUCH OTHER GOOD, BUT TELLING ABOUT THE HIGH LEVEL OF POPULATION LIVING IS NOT SUCH AS WHO THEN LIVED. And if the population has never lived like this under the USSR, then why expect it to live better with the victory of the Communist Party in a fragment of the union? request
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 11: 26
        -2
        Quote: g1v2
        Now they will tell us how the Communist Party will change life for the better.

        The Communist Party has a big problem, suckers in our country has become much less laughing
        1. Nikolay82
          Nikolay82 15 July 2016 16: 53
          +1
          less suckers, and (h \ m) strokes just above the roof.
        2. AID.S
          AID.S 16 July 2016 00: 27
          -1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          The Communist Party has a big problem, suckers in our country has become much less

          Strange, the country is the same, but EP has no such problem ...
      2. Amurets
        Amurets 15 July 2016 12: 03
        0
        Quote: g1v2
        THERE WAS MUCH OTHER GOOD, BUT TELLING ABOUT THE HIGH LEVEL OF POPULATION LIVING IS NOT SUCH AS WHO THEN LIVED.

        Yes, you’re right! I remember when, under Nikita, we guys took turns to eat bread in the evening, parents stood in turns at night, and from six in the morning we guys again. And Nikina at that time was growing corn from Kushka to the North Pole and from Cape Dezhnev to Kaliningrad region.

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The Communist Party has a big problem, suckers in our country has become much less

        You are right! Zyuganov and the Communist Party betrayed the people after the referendum, when the people voted for the USSR and the second time in 1996. And how will it change? Link to those elections. Http://polittech.org/2013/06/23/vybory-prezidenta-rf -v-1996-godu-se
        mya-po
        beda-lyuboj-cenoj-chast1 /
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 12: 17
          +2
          Quote: Amurets

          You are right! Zyuganov and the Communist Party betrayed the people after the referendum, when the people voted for the USSR and the second time in 1996.

          Just Zyug links, like Yanukovych. An ordinary opportunist who knows that he will never be president. Although he doesn’t need to, he has more responsibility. In short, a clown
    5. shtanko.49
      shtanko.49 15 July 2016 12: 40
      +7
      What is true, then the truth Our bureaucrats got sick capitally, probably because the words capitalism and capitally have one root. Well, the objective law of the development of society says that when the productive forces and production relations accumulate contradictions, everything will be decided by the REVOLUTION, not to forget and let the ordinary Russian people live with dignity.
    6. cyberhanter
      cyberhanter 15 July 2016 15: 51
      0
      Well, a fight, not a fight, but the truth is obvious :) It is :)
    7. staskaz1990
      staskaz1990 15 July 2016 15: 52
      0
      but as a matter of fact everything is true. Ask yourself a question: who lives, cheerfully, freely in Russia? The answer is obvious.
    8. Buffet
      Buffet 16 July 2016 14: 13
      0
      No money, but you hold on!
  2. Abbra
    Abbra 15 July 2016 10: 00
    +8
    We are waiting for an article from "Spr.Russia", "United Russia" and the Liberal Democratic Party ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 10: 21
      -5
      Quote: Abbra
      We are waiting for an article from "Spr.Russia", "United Russia" and the Liberal Democratic Party ...

      SchA you will feel on yourself, all the "love" of the communist for his neighbor in the form of minuses. For them, it's like, either you are with us, or you are the enemy. Everything, there is a pattern of thinking at the level of 1917.
      AU Communists, here's the last nifig poll you do not shine tongue
      United Russia received 43 percent of the vote, Communists 11%, LDPR 9%, Fair Russia 4%, Right Cause 1,95%, Yabloko 0,63%, Patriots of Russia - 0,42%.
      http://www.city-n.ru/view/197508.html

      In addition, if the presidential election were to take place next Sunday, Vladimir Putin would have won them again with a result of 53% (open question, the names of politicians were not read out, but were called spontaneously by respondents). The leader of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation Gennady Zyuganov was named by 4%, the LDPR leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky - 3%, the Minister of Defense Sergey Shoigu - 2%.

      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/politics/20160210/1372239613.html#ixzz4ESYl1xai


      Uncle Sue, Two and Goodbye lol
      1. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina 15 July 2016 10: 48
        +14
        Alexander, although I adhere to the socialist system of building the state, I completely agree with you here. From Zyuganov a communist, like a Spanish pilot from me. And the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is far from the Communist Party, the same prizhivali at the trough like everyone else. Another thing is that those who have been pushed away from it, such as "apple", "parnassus" and other evil spirits, are drawn to this feeder. So the closer to the elections, the more there will be such article-propaganda articles, a la vote for Vasya Pupkin.
        1. Mikado
          Mikado 15 July 2016 15: 02
          +1
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          So the closer to the elections, the more there will be such agitate statues, a la vote for Vasya Pupkin.

          In a philosophical sense, the article is generally correct. In principle, the state of affairs in domestic politics is spelled out correctly. It's not about candidates and party leaders. It's about the idea of ​​justice. At a time when we are besieged by enemies from all sides, a single high-ranking official (anyone) who is doing the wrong thing (what - think for yourself, you never know scandals in power over the past couple of years) can do more evil than the entire fifth liberoid column, and create a negative image of the authorities. I will once again quote Afanasy Nikitin: "And God preserve the Russian land. There is no land like it in the whole world. Let the Russian land be improved, for there is little justice in it!"
      2. Altona
        Altona 15 July 2016 11: 40
        +19
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Uncle Sue, Two and Goodbye

        ---------------------
        The author of the article wrote quite correctly. There is no need to be joking and scared about this. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation poses quite the right questions and is trying to block many legislative quirks of the United Russia. We are talking about overcoming the monopoly in the Duma of "United Russia". And you here on the forum arranged KVN with sticking labels. So far, the goals of the party are not entirely communist, but social democratic and nationally oriented. You want EVERYTHING AT ONCE. It doesn't work that way. Even Lenin and Stalin for 15 years maneuvered with all kinds of "fellow travelers", although they had a rather rigidly disciplined party. Yes, the article was written for the elections. But the author has given few arguments. China is a communist country, whatever you say. Yes, with a huge bias in the form of bourgeois attributes. But this is just the realization of Deng Xiao Ping's thesis "Let a thousand flowers bloom" (later we will figure out which ones are harmful). In our political field, there is little choice - only between bitter and sour. Therefore, we must proceed from the "real politician", that is, choose from the available one, for example, I am not very sympathetic to our Shurchanov, but there is nothing easy to choose from. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation honestly writes in its newspapers which bills are being pushed by whom and which party votes for them. These are real facts. I judge by facts and put forward programmatic theses, and not by any likes or dislikes.
        But if you still like "Chu's dad", who can tell a lot about how they, together with VVP under Sobchak in St. Petersburg, traded non-customs goods, then for God's sake. Therefore, if everything suits you, there will be such a "consensus" in the authorities as now, with the deterioration of the life of 90% of the population in favor of the remaining 10.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 12: 07
          -6
          Quote: Altona
          The Communist Party raises the right questions and tries to block many of the legislative changes in the EP.

          More correctly, bags full of dollars protect their interests.
          1. Altona
            Altona 15 July 2016 12: 54
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            More correctly, bags full of dollars protect their interests.

            ------------------------
            Do you want power? The price of the issue is $ 10 million, it is unlikely that less will work. You go with this money to good PR managers, they will advise you on the most "correct and promoted party". Then you go to the bosses of this party, so that they insert you into the desired list, and preferably the first number, include you in all their press releases and provide you with administrative, media and other support. The money that you have left, you spend on appeasing your voter - free concerts, repairing sidewalks in yards, purchasing equipment for playgrounds. Plus trips around the region, exposure in the local media. So much for the "bags full of dollars." You will hardly be able to do it cheaper.
          2. Alex_59
            Alex_59 15 July 2016 12: 57
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            More correctly, bags full of dollars protect their interests.

            Yeah, they are rich, not like the beggars from EDRA: "There is no money, you hold on here, good luck to you!"
            25 years of persistent concern for the state and the result is "no money". Great, great.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 14: 00
              -4
              Quote: Alex_59
              Yeah, they are rich, not like the poor from EDRA:

              Nevertheless, it is in the Communist Party that the largest number of millionaires. Just as a fact.
              1. Alex_59
                Alex_59 15 July 2016 14: 24
                +4
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Nevertheless, it is in the Communist Party that the largest number of millionaires. Just as a fact.

                And what do I need this fact? Communist Party-who are they? They are nobody. Balabol. Is there a little balabol?

                And Dima-iPhone with Chubais, Shuvalovs, Kudrins - they are actually members of the government. They are 25 years old (well, some are not 25 but 15) they rule the country. Where are the results? How are you, in Vladik, skating over the Russian bridge? The bridge is yes! It is not kindergartens for every child to provide ...
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 14: 40
                  -3
                  Quote: Alex_59
                  Communist Party-who are they? They are nobody.

                  I like your train of thought lol good
                  Quote: Alex_59
                  Balabol.

                  Yes Yes Yes good
                  Quote: Alex_59
                  And Dima-iPhone with Chubais,

                  But does Medvedev not work? Sanctions, falling oil prices, but the country survived.
                  But who is Chubais and where is he now?
                  Quote: Alex_59
                  They are 25 years old (well, some are not 25 but 15) they rule the country. Where are the results?

                  That is, since 2000, nothing has changed in the country? If you really think so, then I'm sorry, but further dialogue will lose its meaning.
                  Quote: Alex_59
                  ride a bridge in Russian? The bridge is yes!

                  Well, first of all, almost everyone in the west of the country thinks that this bridge is not needed, while in Vladik itself they think differently.
                  Quote: Alex_59
                  It is not kindergartens for every child to provide ...

                  So if you provide, then you will find what to dig wink
                2. Altona
                  Altona 15 July 2016 15: 00
                  +6
                  Quote: Alex_59
                  And what do I need this fact? Communist Party-who are they? They are nobody. Balabol. Is there a little balabol?

                  -------------------
                  Without money and administrative leverage, we are also balabol. By the way, we have a very responsible comrade, Mr. Putin, who also behaves like an outright balabol, with enormous resources and support from the population. I will not speak about Medvedev.
                3. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 15 July 2016 21: 17
                  -2
                  They are 25 years old (well, some are not 25 but 15) they rule the country. Where are the results? - And there are a lot of results - most of them are positive.
        2. g1v2
          g1v2 15 July 2016 12: 13
          -5
          In principle, the EP monopoly suits me, although of course it would be better if the two parties of Putin - EP and SR balanced each other. If Putin does not have control over the parliament, then for every action and law he will have to pay the deputies - the same Communist Party. The budget is not rubber and I think that gentlemen deputies will manage without his money. They said to vote - click on the buttons and do not show off. am
          Well, about the parties. A party is always - LEADERS. The program of the party is watched only by those who like to listen to the delusion of the wide open ears. The program of any party says one thing - we are for all the good versus all the bad. Therefore, ALWAYS vote for specific people. There alone Zhirik on his charisma how many years the party in the Duma holds. But who is significant except Zyuganov in the Communist Party? Does she have bright leaders? Moreover, Zyuganov himself is far from Zhirik with his charisma and energy. That is why the left-bourgeois party of Zyuganov can only speculate on the memory of the deceased union, sticking to the accomplishments of those who had nothing to do with them. hi
          1. Altona
            Altona 15 July 2016 13: 02
            +5
            Quote: g1v2
            In principle, the EP monopoly suits me, although of course it would be better if the two parties of Putin - EP and SR balanced each other.

            ---------------------
            "ER" is a party between parties. She has only consumer interests and appetites. This is the party of the capitalist monopolists. Now we have something like this.
            Friends-capitalists come to Medvedev: "Well, what about the budget?"
            Dima Medvedev: "Posony, I need budget holders to throw 700 lards into medicine, 500 into education, a trillion for warriors and a trillion for pensions. The rest of Mona is to cut on her own-offshore-mofshores, I have a new behu-macbook-hasselblad-mirror dacha. Oh, yes, dad needs 300 lard to go to Syria, you know. The rest is ours, pawns, love, dad knows. "
            If you are satisfied with this "planning" of our country? I'm not there.
            1. g1v2
              g1v2 15 July 2016 13: 12
              -6
              Well, did you dream about this picture, did you see it yourself or did the good uncles tell you? Such planning as you came up with, of course, does not suit me, but the real one is quite. But if you have info and proof, then the prosecutor’s office will listen to you. If not, then this is just a throw on the fan. hi So far, apart from piss, I have not seen any real docs.
              1. Altona
                Altona 15 July 2016 14: 06
                +3
                Quote: g1v2
                Well, did you dream about this picture, did you see it yourself or did the good uncles tell you?

                ---------------------
                SK? The prosecutor’s office? Well, you are really a naive person. Looks like you live in illusions. How old are you? This is a real picture of any capitalist power. Live in your illusions if you want. I told you as simple as it really is. The interests of Miller, Sechin, Kerimov, Kostin, Deripaska, Alekperov (hereinafter a list of another 200 names) are more important for you to see, and their people in power are in the form of Dvorkovich, Shuvalov, Nabiullina, Ulyukaev (hereinafter another list of 30-40 names, with Kudrin led by the HSE administration).
              2. Altona
                Altona 15 July 2016 14: 28
                +3
                Quote: g1v2
                So far, apart from piss, I have not seen any real docs.

                ------------------
                Well, then you live somewhere in a cell, on an island. I watch TV, news, Dmitry Medvedev's trip to Crimea and his wish to pensioners "NO MONEY! But hang on here, all the best to you!" What other docks do you need? This is the quintessence of government policy in its purest form. Don't you understand this or what? hi
                PS By the way, do not abuse the fan. Meningitis, pneumonia, and tonsillitis are much easier to get in the summer.
                1. g1v2
                  g1v2 15 July 2016 17: 17
                  0
                  To get started, find the full version of the words of the Bear cub on the network and compare it with what you posted on all sites. And then ask yourself - why and who made such an installation. Well, then think about why you are ready to buy any nonsense and why it is so easy to manipulate you. wink
                  And you did not provide evidence. And by the way, about the prosecutor’s office and SK - just type in a search engine a long request through a line like that - they put / arrested / imprisoned / convicted ... and then the official / governor / mayor / rector / police / prosecutor ... and a ghost of 37 years will arise. And all of them, too, thought like you — that nothing would happen to them, but it turned out to be there. hi
                  1. Altona
                    Altona 15 July 2016 19: 38
                    +1
                    Quote: g1v2
                    Well, then think about why you are ready to buy any nonsense and why it is so easy to manipulate you.

                    --------------------
                    I know Dmitry Medvedev well without these words. All he says is pure amateurish nonsense. On the network, he is credited with a lot. Hasselblad camera (Sweden) with long-focus lenses Carl Zeiss (Germany). Handmade home acoustics Dome (Great Britain), these are speakers of black oak and beech. Jimmy Choo shoes, MacBook laptop. Let's say these are his little toys. Google the prices, you will be pleasantly surprised. "You hang on there, good luck, happiness." hi
                    1. g1v2
                      g1v2 15 July 2016 20: 22
                      0
                      Kamrad, I don’t like a teddy bear, I think that this is such a child who lives in his painted world, but the conversation is about something else - that the installation and information attack was made on the basis of this stuffing.
                      As for the price of his toys, this is generally nonsense. I’ll tell you a secret - people go to power first to get settled in life, and then to realize themselves. The higher you climb the career pyramid - the steeper nishtyaki. This is the law of life. request So it was with the primitive system, so it was with the king and the USSR. Nishtyaks and their sizes only change, but the meaning remains. If you want to impress me with the fact that the teddy bear doesn’t drink but brandy cognac, then it’s not worth it - for me it’s an axiom and I don’t have to show gold loaves - I understand that they are. As well as the fact that I walk or ride a minibus, and the director of my factory is in Porsche. And I had a friend - a petty boss, and he went on growing and now he’s also cutting through a Porsche. So nothing new is that several thousand top officials, ruling 148 million people, live much better than the bulk of the population, you will not tell me. I don’t want to spit in my soul, but Zyuganov and Zhirik are also among these people and far from collecting bottles in the gateways. Ce la vie. crying
                      1. Altona
                        Altona 15 July 2016 22: 23
                        +1
                        Quote: g1v2
                        Kamrad, I don’t like a teddy bear, I think that this is such a child who lives in his painted world, but the conversation is about something else - that the installation and information attack was made on the basis of this stuffing.

                        -------------------
                        I'll give you a plus for your loyalty to the party. About the nonsense about the prices of his toys. Jimmy Chu-56 shoes - 75 THOUSAND RUBLES, Hasselblad camera - THREE MILLION RUBLES (how this brand pisses me off), Karl Zeiss and Leica lenses (focus from 100 mm) from 150 thousand rubles, British acoustics from 4 million rubles, BMW IKS6 from 3 million rubles. And it's not that he should live badly. Although as a shitty associate professor in Roman law, who receives 16 thousand rubles in Russia, you probably need to live more modestly. You can see exactly the blind that you stand up for such a stupid one. I wrote on his video blog for a couple of years. He tried to translate some of my thoughts into reality, in his own way. I looked at what moderators he has on the site and his personal trolls. You see, you decided to enroll in his volunteer assistants. Good luck to you. If you lose your job, open a meat market or learn how to roll felt boots. Such advice is given on his website.
                      2. g1v2
                        g1v2 15 July 2016 23: 38
                        0
                        I have a good education and profession - I can live without felt boots, but thanks for the care. hi As for toys - something poor. The prime minister in shoes for just a piece of bucks is some kind of rogue and dishonors the country. By the way, I wonder why he needs a fotik more expensive than a car. I honestly didn’t even hear about such - you will need to read what kind of brand belay . But you didn’t amaze me with anything - I saw businessmen cooler and not from the Forbes list. I’m not going to stand up for him - I didn’t vote for him, unlike Vovan Vovanych. Not because the teddy bear is bad there or a villain, but simply by all his statements (real, not mounted) I see that he does not know real life. He’s a good person, not stupid, not evil, not a thief, but in my opinion he is not good friends with reality. He is an enthusiastic boy with shiny toys.
                        Unlike GDP. That realist and pragmatist - knows what and how in life, doesn’t even blow his nose without planning, knows what he wants and how to achieve it. In my opinion, this is one of the five best rulers of Russia in history. This is my opinion and I am not going to impose it. But I can argue on a box of beer - there will be no better ruler in our lifetime. Worse - easy, but hardly better. Moreover, he is not a saint and not perfect, if you are going to look for some of his statements or shoals - do not bother. As a citizen of my country, he is quite happy with me in its place with all its pluses and minuses. hi
  3. weksha50
    weksha50 15 July 2016 10: 54
    0
    Quote: Abbra
    We are waiting for articles from "Spra. Russia", "United Russia" and the Liberal Democratic Party ...


    By the way, for a long time of all the parties of the LDPR with Eirik I consider it more honest ...

    At least due to the fact that their role has long been determined: like a whistle, they give an outlet for angry steam, but at the same time supporting the existing power ... That is, the steam came out and the boat did not swing ...
    And, by the way, he doesn’t get into power as such ... At least for the reason that Zhirik is good at such auxiliary roles for the government, but not independent, such as the president or prime minister ... Otherwise, he would with his ax the lumberjack would do many things ...

    And EP and Fair Russia - there is no question about them ... And only about Yabloki and Parnassos - those only to Kolyma, in full force ...
    1. Altona
      Altona 15 July 2016 11: 44
      +4
      Quote: weksha50
      By the way, for a long time of all the parties of the LDPR with Eirik I consider it more honest ...

      ----------------------
      Zhirik is honest, he tells a lot about how it is up there. But it is spoken in favor of monarchical or dictatorial rule. "Here is the tsar, here under the tsar, in Europe, the cannons were silent while the Russian tsar dined." Well, stuff like that. The ideas of monarchism are also pushed by "United Russia", therefore the Liberal Democratic Party, despite all the assurances, is actually the right wing of "United Russia" - it is the siloviki and all sorts of sovereigns.
  • svp67
    svp67 15 July 2016 10: 02
    +4
    What to do? And what is necessary. Go to the polls and vote for the future of the country. For the future of children, grandchildren. I will vote for the Communist Party. I do not like Zyuganov. But the communist idea, the idea of ​​true justice, will remain after his departure.

    Read the programs of the main parties. The most "about nothing" - in the "ER", the most Russian - from the Communist Party.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 15 July 2016 21: 20
      -3
      But this road turned out to be steep and bumpy, with a sharp descent into a concrete wall.
  • Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 15 July 2016 10: 03
    +24
    Alexander, after all, I also wrote in my comments that the country is heading into the Stone Age. I know that they will begin to blame me and you for all mortal sins, but I will survive it. Only here, according to Stalin, we have disagreements with you — he simply knew and understood that it was impossible to govern the country differently, and he was not a dictator in theory, but out of necessity. Otherwise, I completely agree with you !!!! +
    1. Bramb
      Bramb 15 July 2016 10: 08
      -9
      Yes, the country does not roll in any stone age !!! If you wrote stupidity, then what, then after that it became true? He wrote ...)))))
      What are the shortcuts? What brains are not enough to assess the situation sensibly? Therefore, shortcuts? For some, everything is fine, for others, everything is bad. It doesn’t happen!
      There is bad and there is good - it is necessary to isolate and work, correcting the bad, and improving the good, creating the missing. And sticking labels like you will not create anything!
      1. Banishing liberoids
        Banishing liberoids 15 July 2016 10: 20
        +9
        Bramb-flush pink glasses and take a closer look at our reality? Are you happy with everything ?? Or are you yourself one of those who are used to leading, and there, even though the grass does not grow ???
    2. Leto
      Leto 15 July 2016 10: 22
      .
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      Only here, according to Stalin, we have disagreements with you — he simply knew and understood that it was impossible to govern the country differently

      Exactly, I didn’t know, he obviously lacked education. The fact that it is possible to develop a state without bloodletting, for some reason many do not know.
      1. Alex_59
        Alex_59 15 July 2016 10: 33
        +7
        Quote: Leto
        Exactly, I didn’t know, he obviously lacked education. The fact that it is possible to develop a state without bloodletting, for some reason many do not know.

        You would be in his place. You would have stroked all with a pink little rukovichku on the head and they would have run the Dneproges to build joyfully. Dr. Aibolit, you are our ...
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 10: 40
          -6
          Quote: Alex_59
          You would have stroked all with a pink little rukovichku on the head and they would have run the Dneproges to build joyfully. Dr. Aibolit, you are our ...

          There are a bridge to the Crimea and sticks do not drive anyone. You probably still cannot understand how this became possible.
          1. dauria
            dauria 15 July 2016 10: 50
            +16
            There are a bridge to the Crimea and sticks do not drive anyone. You probably still cannot understand how this became possible.



            Hmm, maybe because this money would have built a couple of bridges under Stalin and would have poured a new Crimea? wink I just happened to see some estimates signed by the head of the OKS state. offices ... Interestingly, it seems that the US senators did the brickwork, and they were taken to work by plane every day.

            To build a barn for the price of a Chrysler skyscraper, a bunch of people who want to come running without any sticks ....
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 11: 07
              -6
              Quote: dauria
              Hmm, maybe because this money would have built a couple of bridges under Stalin and would have poured a new Crimea?

              Of course, because the labor of prisoners does not cost anything. And now people get paid.
              Quote: dauria
              ... Interestingly, it feels like US senators did the brickwork, and they were taken to work every day by plane.

              And how much does a bricklayer get today?
              1. alicante11
                alicante11 15 July 2016 13: 07
                +1
                Of course, because the labor of prisoners does not cost anything. And now people get paid.


                The labor of prisoners is free only for them (although they also received salaries), but there is also security, the apparatus and staff of the camp, and the camps themselves and the surrounding villages need to be built and maintained, not the fact that it's all cheaper.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 14: 01
                  -2
                  Quote: alicante11
                  not the fact that it's all cheaper.

                  Oh damn, where do you come from such economists.
          2. Alex_59
            Alex_59 15 July 2016 10: 51
            +9
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            There are a bridge to the Crimea and sticks do not drive anyone. You probably still cannot understand how this became possible.

            I think a little wider. There were other norms at that time. No need to directly compare our time with the time of 85 years ago. Then the situation was completely different, and I think that if you were not in Stalin’s place, you would hardly have acted better. And I, by the way, too. For some reason, everyone believes that the administrative methods of Stalin should be applied today. I never offered such nonsense, but I think that in that era, in those conditions, Stalin's actions were quite logical and reasonable.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 11: 05
              .
              Quote: Alex_59
              I think a little wider.

              I didn’t notice.
              Quote: Alex_59
              There were other norms at that time.

              Soot and shoot.
              Quote: Alex_59
              No need to directly compare our time with the time 85 years ago.

              That’s why, you communists do it all the time. You mean it’s possible, and when it’s not profitable, then it’s impossible for others.
              Quote: Alex_59
              Then there was a completely different situation,

              I immediately remembered Obama's words about Kosovo and the referendum in Crimea. - Quote There was a completely different situation.
              Quote: Alex_59
              For some reason, everyone believes that Stalin's managerial methods should be applied today

              I do not think so! And all is who?
              Quote: Alex_59
              in those conditions, the actions of Stalin were quite logical and reasonable.

              But in other countries at the same time, they could without frowning at their people.
              1. Alex_59
                Alex_59 15 July 2016 11: 42
                +9
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                I didn’t notice.

                Yes, I see for the second time in a week that you don’t notice much. It happens.
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Soot and shoot.

                Yes. Now they’re just firing or planting. The White Governor in 35 would simply be put to the wall. Now they are judging, then, sho. In its era - its own rules.
                And under Ivan the Terrible they planted a stake. So it goes.
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                That’s why, you Communists do it all the time.

                Did I say somewhere that I am a communist (with two M spelled)? God save me ... I'm non-partisan.
            2. BecmepH
              BecmepH 15 July 2016 11: 47
              +3
              in that era, in those conditions, the actions of Stalin were quite logical and justified.
              That's right. Then time determined the leader. And the last name of this person is not important. The situation of that time did not give a choice of action. That was the only way to raise the country.
          3. BecmepH
            BecmepH 15 July 2016 11: 35
            +2
            Alexander Romanov
            A bridge to the Crimea stands and sticks do not drive anyone
            And who builds that? And I answer with a smirk: "Guest workers !!!"
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 11: 43
              -2
              Quote: BecmepH
              And who builds that? And I answer with a smirk: "Guest workers !!!"

              And gastrobaiters too. And so what?
          4. alicante11
            alicante11 15 July 2016 13: 03
            +1
            There are a bridge to the Crimea and sticks do not drive anyone. You probably still cannot understand how this became possible.


            I wonder how many Dneproges and STZ will fit in this bridge?
        2. Leto
          Leto 15 July 2016 10: 52
          -1
          Quote: Alex_59
          You would be in his place.

          Is he the first person in the world who got a country in a state of devastation?
          In Japan, in Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore, it somehow happened. Not to mention post-war Europe.
          Quote: Alex_59
          You would have stroked all with a pink little rukovichku on the head and they would have run the Dneproges to build joyfully.

          In the Russian Empire, they somehow managed to build the Trans-Siberian Railway, wouldn’t they have mastered the Dnieper?
          1. Alex_59
            Alex_59 15 July 2016 10: 59
            +9
            Quote: Leto
            Is he the first person in the world who got a country in a state of devastation?

            He is the first person in the world who got into a country in a state of devastation and who was promised openly to wipe it off in the near future (1925 year), and began preparations for this (1933).
            If you did not notice, the first two five-year plans passed without any mass repressions. There was of course a struggle with the counter, but this is the specificity of the Bolshevik government, which I admit do not approve. So what is next? Well, what to do next without repression, if the war is obviously getting closer, and a bunch of all sorts of Kurchevsky and Tukhachevsky essentially sabotage industrialization? Well, then it started, we do not have excesses. They began the fight against the enemies of the people, and the innocent suffered. Of course there is nothing to rejoice about.
            Quote: Leto
            In the Russian Empire, they somehow managed to build the Trans-Siberian Railway, wouldn’t they have mastered the Dnieper?

            Overpowered. It is only a matter of time and money. Only in the 30 years there was neither time nor money.
            1. Leto
              Leto 15 July 2016 11: 56
              -3
              Quote: Alex_59
              He is the first person in the world who got into a country in a state of devastation and who was promised openly to wipe it off in the near future (1925)

              Who promised? Rather, who could?
              Quote: Alex_59
              and began preparations for this (1933).

              If you're talking about the madman of adik, then in 1933. he didn’t even think of such a thing, he hadn’t before.
              Quote: Alex_59
              If you did not notice, the first two five-year plans passed without any mass repressions.

              You do not notice them. Remind me when the first "sharashki" were formed? Do you know anything about collectivization? So that "Virgin Land Upturned" was studied by everyone in school ... in the USSR at least.
              Quote: Alex_59
              There was of course a struggle with the counter, but this is the specificity of the Bolshevik government

              And what is the difference between combating pest control and pest control? For example, Polikarpov was declared a counter-example and put in a sharashka, and Tupolev was declared a pest and put there, the difference is only in years.
              Quote: Alex_59
              Overpowered. It is only a matter of time and money.

              Compare. The Dnieper Hydroelectric Power Station was built for five years, the Trans-Siberian Railway was built for ten years. And compare the amount of work.
              1. Alex_59
                Alex_59 15 July 2016 12: 35
                +4
                Quote: Leto
                Who promised? Rather, who could?

                Subsequent events showed who promised and who could. Did they teach history?
                Quote: Leto
                You don’t notice them.

                Without MASS repression. Not "no repressions at all," but no "mass" ones. Repression by the Bolsheviks was carried out almost continuously after coming to power. And I openly wrote that there is nothing to be happy about.
                Quote: Leto
                For example, Polikarpov was declared a counter and put in a sharashka.
                Sharashka - not hard labor. They were stuffed there so that young ladies and booze would not distract from work. Tin, of course. He was arrested in 29, and already released in 31.
                I don’t argue - it was a tough time. But we could learn something useful from that time for ourselves? 25 years of the rule of our liberals - the result of "No money, you stay here. Good luck to you." 25 years of Stalin's rule - a nuclear power on the verge of going into space. Yes, at the cost of many lives. Can not be so. But today they could at least not store oil revenues in the stabilization fund, but buy technology, as Stalin did by buying Ford, Vickers, Ansaldo.
          2. Volzhanin
            Volzhanin 15 July 2016 11: 22
            +1
            Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore stuffed mattresses SO with money that there simply couldn’t be any other option. And Greece too ...
            The Trans-Siberian convicts built in huge numbers, however.
            "To fart is like fart into a puddle" - an expression that accurately characterizes your stupid message. Immediately evident - a hardened liberast.
            1. Leto
              Leto 15 July 2016 12: 06
              -2
              Quote: Volzhanin
              Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore stuffed mattresses SO with money that there simply couldn’t be any other option. And Greece too ...

              Do you naively believe the USSR did not stuff money?
              Stalin I.V.
              Conversation with a newspaper correspondent
              The New York Times Durante
              25th of December 1933
              Duranti. What is the total amount of Soviet loan obligations abroad?
              Stalin. A little over 450 million rubles. In recent years, we paid large sums - two years ago our loan obligations amounted to 1.400 million. We paid all this and will pay it on time by the end of 1934 or at the beginning of 1935, at regular intervals.
              Duranti. Suppose there is no more doubt about the Soviet willingness to pay, but what about the Soviet solvency?
              Stalin. We have no difference between the first and second, because we do not undertake obligations that we cannot pay.

              Quote: Volzhanin
              The Trans-Siberian convicts built in huge numbers, however.

              This is in what is HUGE? The history of Russian Railways says something else:
              All the ministries, whose participation in the construction was caused by necessity, all the provinces gave hands. So it was called: workers of the first hand, the most experienced, skilled, workers of the second hand, the third. In some years, when sections of the first stage launched work (1895-1896), up to 90 thousand people went to the track at the same time.

              Quote: Volzhanin
              "To fart is like fart into a puddle" - an expression that accurately characterizes your stupid message. Immediately evident - a hardened liberast.

              Blah blah blah ... Apply a compress, otherwise the brain will boil.
      2. V.ic
        V.ic 15 July 2016 10: 48
        +13
        Quote: Leto
        Exactly, I didn’t know

        Complete nonsense! Who led the USSR from January 1928 to March 1953? Stalin created the world's first socialist state, the fruits of which we all still enjoy, although the USSR in 1991 "rested in a bose."
        Quote: Leto
        he obviously lacked education.

        That you have already thrown out from a clearly big mind that does not fit in your skull. Soso, of course, did not have a diploma from the end of the seminary. But there was a wonderful analytical mind and (at least!) An excellent knowledge of the Great Russian language, which half does not speak here.
        Quote: Leto
        why you can develop a state without bloodletting, many for some reason do not know.

        Without bloodletting Trotsky and his accomplices of the USSR, as a state would never have happened! Google when the American godfathers began to prepare the Second World War, exactly after the expulsion of Leiba Davydovich Bronstein from the USSR.
        Point the pointing finger at the politician who carried out the development of his state without bloodletting. You can take the minus / plus range of 2000 years from R.H. Not shed a drop of blood and not a tear in a child. Dare!
        1. Leto
          Leto 15 July 2016 11: 10
          .
          Quote: V.ic
          Stalin created the world's first socialist state, the fruits of which we all still enjoy, although the USSR in 1991 "rested in a bose."

          Ie its creation was not viable?
          Quote: V.ic
          Soso, of course, did not have a diploma from the end of the seminary. But there was a wonderful analytical mind and (at least!) An excellent knowledge of the Great Russian language, which half does not speak here.

          What does an analytical mind and education have to do with it? How is this interconnected?
          Quote: V.ic
          Without bloodletting Trotsky and his accomplices of the USSR, as a state would never have happened!

          And what difference would the USSR fall apart not in 1991 but, for example, in 1950? The result would be the same.
          Quote: V.ic
          Google when the American godfathers began to prepare the Second World War, exactly after the expulsion of Leiba Davydovich Bronstein from the USSR.

          C'mon, this is outdated data, it has already been proven that this is all a reptilian plan.

          Quote: V.ic
          Point the pointing finger at the politician who carried out the development of his state without bloodletting. You can take the minus / plus range of 2000 years from R.H. Not shed a drop of blood and not a tear in a child. Dare!

          Itiro Hatayama, Prime Minister of Japan
          1. V.ic
            V.ic 15 July 2016 18: 39
            0
            Quote: Leto
            Itiro Hatаpit, prime minister of Japan

            Laps ... You, you, and who else? Ichiro hatoyama. Your "hut" is of course on the edge and "I don't know anything", starting with the spelling ... So what if he created the Japanese "LDPr"? How long did he lead? Complete bullshit ...
            Quote: Leto
            Ie its creation was not viable?
            What does an analytical mind and education have to do with it? How is this interconnected?
            And what difference would the USSR fall apart not in 1991 but, for example, in 1950? The result would be the same.
            C'mon, this is outdated data, it has already been proven that this is all a reptilian plan.

            I do not conduct dialogues with trolls, sectarians and Fomenkonosovites. DIXI!
      3. Igor V
        Igor V 15 July 2016 11: 14
        -1
        Quote: Leto
        Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
        Only here, according to Stalin, we have disagreements with you — he simply knew and understood that it was impossible to govern the country differently

        Exactly, I didn’t know, he obviously lacked education. The fact that it is possible to develop a state without bloodletting, for some reason many do not know.

        Also did not guess the leaders of other countries - B. Britain, the USA, France, etc.
      4. alicante11
        alicante11 15 July 2016 12: 40
        +7
        Exactly, I didn’t know, he obviously lacked education. The fact that it is possible to develop a state without bloodletting, for some reason many do not know.


        Well, here we also "develop". For 25 years, the bloody Stalinists carried out the GOELRO plan, industrialization, and created an industry that withstood such a blow as the Second World War. And what did our most democratic RF "doneunas" do? And this is given the incomparable starting conditions and foreign policy situation. The USSR at the beginning of the 20s, it is almost completely destroyed by two major wars, the Empire, and the Russian Federation in the 91st, although a sick, but a powerful industrial organism. The USSR spent a significant part of its time in an economic blockade, and the Russian Federation was almost all the time the "darling" of the West.
        As the saying goes, "feel the difference" between "we are 37th year" and "we are not 37th year"
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 15 July 2016 21: 30
          -1
          And the Russian Federation in the 91st, albeit a sick, but a powerful industrial organism only - This powerful industrial organism turned out to be redundant in a market economy that rushed into our country like a tsunami and our products could not withstand competition, according to new criteria, our products became yesterday in the afternoon, plus the lack of funding from the state, this whole powerful industrial organism finished off, so now large new industrial enterprises are being built in units - too risky business, mainly now they are creating small and medium-sized plants and factories with increased automation.
    3. weksha50
      weksha50 15 July 2016 10: 57
      +6
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      Only here, according to Stalin, we have disagreements with you — he simply knew and understood that it was impossible to govern the country differently, and he was not a dictator in theory, but out of necessity.


      !!! hi

      And at one time, the "faithful Leninists" - = Carbonarii began to shoot and plant for the same reason: "true" revolutionaries could only destroy, not create ...
      That is, in the matter of building a new Russia (USSR) they would only get in the way, like a cart - the fifth wheel ... across ...
      1. ver_
        ver_ 17 July 2016 16: 22
        0
        ..to you, the priest, God elects the chosen people to annoy ..., but he himself has such an opinion ..
  • excomandante
    excomandante 15 July 2016 10: 03
    +1
    No rating. In general, it is true, but I did not read anything new. It has been written and rewritten about GDP that ours is very underestimated, since in the EU and the Yankees most of the GDP is services, and here we have, nevertheless, the old fashioned production, which is clearly seen at the same purchasing power parity.
    1. Abbra
      Abbra 15 July 2016 10: 08
      +6
      Maybe I'm wrong, but when assessing GDP, international standards are taken into account? If you evaluate by services, then ... In our city, in each quarter, a pair of real estate agencies, travel agencies and dentists ...
      1. Alex_59
        Alex_59 15 July 2016 10: 30
        0
        Quote: Abbra
        In our city, in each quarter, a pair of real estate agencies, travel agencies and dentists ...

        The first two - they do not produce any really useful tangible product. Especially the first ones are just parasites. Travel agencies at least carry out an educational function, tell, prompt. The bottom line is only doctors ...
      2. CONTROL
        CONTROL 15 July 2016 11: 01
        +2
        Quote: Abbra
        Maybe I'm wrong, but when assessing GDP, international standards are taken into account?

        ... and ratings from "rating agencies?
        "International?" Between - what are the peoples? and who in these "between" is blowing the main solo tune? ...
        -------------
        How much has been said about this - about ratings, and about rating ratings ... and about the third form of lies (that is, statistics) ...
        ... Ivan is five points higher than Peter, and Peter is ten points wider than Ivan; and more weight in Peter than in Ivan for a pood ... So which one of them will we choose ... not, not in the suitors - in the State Duma ?!
      3. weksha50
        weksha50 15 July 2016 11: 12
        0
        Quote: Abbra
        Maybe I'm wrong, but when assessing GDP, international standards are taken into account? If you evaluate by services, then ... In our city, in each quarter, a pair of real estate agencies, travel agencies and dentists ...



        Well, then in the table proposed to us, a mismatch arises ...
        But there is nothing surprising in this double standard ...
        This happened in the days of the USSR - we took into account one standard, they - according to another ...

        So it is necessary to approach SUCH data with some skepticism ...
      4. excomandante
        excomandante 15 July 2016 14: 11
        +1
        A concrete example (especially taking into account the current rate) - a good corporate lawyer with a Yankee with his fee through a decent business passed through a bank will completely surpass the annual revenue of an average Russian plant (partially gray). Does this mean that the real benefit to the economy is more from an American lawyer?
    2. CONTROL
      CONTROL 15 July 2016 10: 57
      0
      Quote: excomandante
      No rating. In general, it is true, but I did not read anything new. It has been written and rewritten about GDP that ours is very underestimated, since in the EU and the Yankees most of the GDP is services, and here we have, nevertheless, the old fashioned production, which is clearly seen at the same purchasing power parity.

      "Rumors about my death are greatly exaggerated" (C) (Mark Twain)
    3. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 15 July 2016 11: 05
      +1
      Russia, data from the wiki
      GDP by sector of agriculture: 3,9%
      industry: 37,5%
      service industry: 58,6%

      Mining is a part of industry.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 11: 31
        -3
        Quote: BlackMokona
        Russia, data from the wiki

        Vika pomika! Share 6.3% for 2016.
        Agricultural production in Russia in 2015 prices. Russian agriculture in 2015, compared to 2014, at prices of 2015 shows an increase in indicators in value terms by 3,3%, while in the industrial sector the increase in the value of manufactured products amounted to 7,0%, a slight decrease is observed in households - by 2,1%. Over 5 years, the total value of agricultural products in 2015 prices increased by 28,6%, over 10 years - by 47,4%. At the same time, in agricultural organizations and peasant farms for 5 years the growth amounted to 53,3%, for 10 years - 79,2%. http://ab-centre.ru/page/selskoe-hozyaystvo-rossii
  • Enoch
    Enoch 15 July 2016 10: 06
    +3
    Choose not choose, but things are still there. Workers at the machines are standing, and those who are quick to the state feeder are in a hurry. Praise God that He does not forget about anyone and helps. The system cares about self-preservation, not about the people.
    1. Bath
      Bath 15 July 2016 10: 22
      +3
      He is you probably about God?
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 10: 07
    +7
    , the most Russian-the Communist Party.
    Oh, yes, who is it, and the Communist Party knows how to tell beautiful tales. What is it with Luzhkov that he was accepted into the party?
    By the way, the author does not mind that the Communist Party has the largest number of dollar millionaires. EP and everyone else nervously smoking on the sidelines wassat We are for the people damn, we are for Lenin lol
    And as for the indestructibility of power, this is probably about the USSR, when the General Secretaries changed each other-friends, by means of taking the predecessor forward with their feet wassat Uncle Sue decided too, while he grunted.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 15 July 2016 10: 19
      +6
      when the General Secretary changed friend-friend
      Putin-Putin-Medvedev-Putin ... laughing
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 10: 25
        -1
        Quote: Gardamir
        Putin-Putin-Medvedev-Putin ...

        And de Suga? -And no laughing
        1. BecmepH
          BecmepH 15 July 2016 12: 01
          +3
          Alexander Romanov
          And about the indestructibility of power, this is probably about the USSR,
          Why is this your skepticism, dear? Here is a worthy answer from Gardamir
          Putin-Putin-Medvedev-Putin ..
    2. twviewer
      twviewer 15 July 2016 13: 31
      +2
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      in the Communist Party the largest number of dollar millionaires

      and let's count? justice for. Wives take into account ??
      PS By the way, if you take the deputy’s salary and multiply it by the number of months spent in the Duma, then (with the old course) in general, all deputies will turn out to be millionaires in dollars, and many of them, for example Valuev, also have other income (advertising, cinema, working on TV) from the merits of the amendment allowing preserving the already acquired real estate abroad for state officials and deputies. And there seems to be nothing surprising - the country is capitalist, unprincipled, and everyone only cares about their own wallet, and how it all ends long ago is clear.
      1. twviewer
        twviewer 15 July 2016 15: 09
        +1
        no desire to count? it is understandable:

        "The top three State Duma deputies with the highest incomes in 2015 were headed by Leonid Simanovsky ("United Russia") with an income of 907,6 million rubles, Interfax reports.
        The second place was taken by Nikolai Bortsov ("United Russia"), he earned 799,14 million rubles. Third place at Alexander Kretov ("United Russia"), his income for 2015 amounted to 415,39 million rubles. "
  • Flinky
    Flinky 15 July 2016 10: 08
    +1
    What kind of campaigning is this?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 10: 12
      -1
      Quote: Flinky
      What kind of campaigning is this?

      Yeah, vote for the Communist Party and they want to get power. But they won’t get nichrome. Putin's reiteration and Zyuganov's reiteration are reality and dreams laughing
      1. razmik72
        razmik72 15 July 2016 10: 34
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Flinky
        What kind of campaigning is this?

        Yeah, vote for the Communist Party and they want to get power. But they won’t get nichrome. Putin's reiteration and Zyuganov's reiteration are reality and dreams laughing

        They can change their leader if they find such strength within themselves and nominate a charismatic leader. But for him to be able to take the presidency, it is necessary for the new leader of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation to work as secretary general for at least 10 years, for people to recognize him It’s possible and faster, but it requires a lot of money, and the Communists are not so good with it. I am not a fan of communist ideas, I just evaluate the chances of a particular party to win.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 10: 44
          -1
          Quote: razmik72
          They can change their leader.

          They cannot, the leader does not want laughing
          Quote: razmik72
          if they find in themselves such forces

          No strength, all the strength goes to counting money.
          Quote: razmik72
          it is necessary that the new leader of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation worked as Secretary General for at least 10 years

          Better immediately for life and wherever you are on Magadan.
          Quote: razmik72
          but it takes a lot of money, and the Communists are not so good with it.

          Ahahahaa, the Communists have a lot of money, there are some dollar millionaires sitting there. You are very far behind life.
          Quote: razmik72
          th, I am primarily an Armenian nationalist, I

          Is Yerevan ours?
          1. razmik72
            razmik72 15 July 2016 11: 05
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: razmik72
            They can change their leader.

            They cannot, the leader does not want laughing
            Quote: razmik72
            if they find in themselves such forces

            No strength, all the strength goes to counting money.
            Quote: razmik72
            it is necessary that the new leader of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation worked as Secretary General for at least 10 years

            Better immediately for life and wherever you are on Magadan.
            Quote: razmik72
            but it takes a lot of money, and the Communists are not so good with it.

            Ahahahaa, the Communists have a lot of money, there are some dollar millionaires sitting there. You are very far behind life.
            Quote: razmik72
            th, I am primarily an Armenian nationalist, I

            Is Yerevan ours?

            Alexander, I deleted my post about Armenian nationalism, since I know that most members of the forum consider nationalists fascists and call them Natsiks. But I think that my nationalism is a desire to protect Armenia from becoming too dependent on other countries and peoples, independent the development of the country and the nations living in it, regardless of nationality. Excessive dependence of the country makes it vulnerable to external threats and weakens the state. Now I get a pretty decent amount of minuses from different sides, but I didn’t get that much either, the same thing hit me yesterday an impressive amount, but if you notice my deleted offer, then I do not refuse it.
            1. razmik72
              razmik72 15 July 2016 11: 32
              +3
              Well, what I was afraid of, it happens that the first minuses have already gone to my previous comment, Alexander. The people from the word nationalist "go wild" and put cons. Once again I explain my position - I am for the independent independent development of my state not at the expense of other peoples living in Armenia or outside of it, I am for the fact that Armenia would not fall into excessive dependence on any country or bloc. Maybe I incorrectly name my belonging to any political trend, I can’t better my views to formulate, Russian is not my native language, my views are close to centrist parties and ideas, but I do not know what they are called in Russian, it is not customary to call them a centrist, so it comes to mind to be called a nationalist. fascists, they make me sick.
            2. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 11: 34
              +1
              Quote: razmik72
              I believe that my nationalism is the desire to protect Armenia from excessive falling into dependence on other countries and peoples, the independent development of the country and the nations living in it, regardless of nationality

              For Armenia, this is geographically impossible, for obvious reasons. By the way, they wanted to do something similar in Ukraine, do you want the same thing?
              Quote: razmik72
              Now I get a pretty decent amount of minuses from different sides,

              Maybe yes, maybe not. You’ve put the minus to me, but you didn’t agree with what, and you didn’t write it.
              1. razmik72
                razmik72 15 July 2016 11: 44
                0
                I wonder how you knew, Alexander, that I put a minus? You’re not God to see everything, but I must admit that I put a minus, there is such a thing, I just thought that right away they put a minus on my comment and you were “involved” in this fellow .You excuse me, according to your answer, I realized that I was wrong and will not do this again hi .
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 14: 06
                  -3
                  Quote: razmik72
                  Well, not God, God, that everything sees

                  I see, I just do not understand what I do not agree with. I didn’t set you, others set there, from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. Their mourning lol
  • guzik007
    guzik007 15 July 2016 10: 10
    +9
    Well, after such an article on VO, the editorial rating in my eyes went up a couple of points.
    Only with the words of the general from "Beg" I want to comment on the author: "Bad soldier. Good start, bad end." This is in the words of "the most just party of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation." In fact, she has sold herself to the conveniences of parliamentary life and other earthly blessings, so there is no need to rely on it either now or later.
  • RomanS
    RomanS 15 July 2016 10: 10
    -1
    And you are my friend, an author-provocateur. Whipping up an emotion of indignation with very dubious data. Children of "elites" have always, even in the USSR, had more opportunities than their peers without their father's positions. It was the same under the tsar, and it is the same with the bourgeois today. Even in North Korea! And the conclusion from the article suggests only one - we must go to overthrow the government! And who will be good from this, we already know. Bold minus article!
    1. Alex_59
      Alex_59 15 July 2016 10: 20
      +16
      Quote: RomanS
      Children of "elites" have always, even in the USSR, had more opportunities than their peers without their father's positions.

      Have had. For example, the children of one party leader of the USSR, under patronage, entered military schools. They did not refuse them, they were afraid. This is the kind of corruption. And then, one of them became a pilot, though he was a little flimsy, but he honestly flew and fought. And the second died. Like thousands of other citizens. These are the "advanced features".

      You can hang a lot of things on Stalin, but he did not hide his children under the hem in London. There was an honest man.
      1. Army soldier2
        Army soldier2 15 July 2016 12: 58
        +2
        As a comment.
        I have a friend - the son of a general (though he himself didn’t reach the general). The first Chechen company went to KP to say hello to his father. And there the journalist processes the general: the children of the workers and peasants are driven by Chechens under bullets, and they hid theirs in London (just like in us in the VO).
        The general gave the command to his son within three hours to collect, whom he can, the children of the generals. Three hours later, 27 people introduced the journalist.

        Aggression is good in revolutions and civil wars. You have to be more thoughtful and calmer, I think so.
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    3. CONTROL
      CONTROL 15 July 2016 11: 08
      +3
      Quote: RomanS
      Bold minus article!

      do not forget to wash and wipe your hands ... from fat in the red!
  • Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 15 July 2016 10: 14
    +4
    A dangerous vacuum has formed in the country, both for the government and those who lead factions and parties — these people either live yesterday not wanting to do anything for the country, or simply incompetent as officials, and are not eager to leave politics, or to find an adequate replacement for yourself, or change your views and attitude to what is happening in Russia. Mostly these are weathervanes, not action people.
  • interceptor58
    interceptor58 15 July 2016 10: 20
    +1
    You cannot beat the whip with the scourge until the rot rot.
  • yegor_k
    yegor_k 15 July 2016 10: 20
    +3
    The answer to the question in the title: Yes. Did you not know?
  • Kostya Andreev
    Kostya Andreev 15 July 2016 10: 20
    -9
    Author hysterical. did not refute because the article is nothing. In this vein, one can describe about any state and about any family, and about any society that was in history. there are no ideal societies, for all my nostalgia for the USSR, he did not belong to them. Put a minus.
  • Muvka
    Muvka 15 July 2016 10: 22
    +1
    By no means do I protect our rulers, but in fairness, which of them receives a billion a year? Tens of millions - I heard, but for a billion ...
    1. aleks700
      aleks700 15 July 2016 11: 28
      -1
      It's about the leaders of unnatural monopolies
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 15 July 2016 11: 34
        +1
        Quote: aleks700
        It's about the leaders of unnatural monopolies

        In the sense? Here is a quote from the text: at the annual income of state managers for a billion (!!!) per year ...
        What does the leaders of the monopolies have to do with it?
        1. aleks700
          aleks700 16 July 2016 06: 16
          0
          Because state monopolies.
  • mpzss
    mpzss 15 July 2016 10: 24
    +2
    I put a "+" on the article, although I do not agree with the author with everything, I do not agree in terms of succession, appointment of relatives, etc., but I do not agree that it was so, is and will ALWAYS be!
    anecdote to the topic:
    Dad Colonel talking with his son:
    dad - go son in a military school, then you will become a colonel!
    son is dad, and I want to be a general!
    dad - no son! you will not be a general, generals have their own sons!
    I know this joke from the middle of the 80's, that is, from Soviet times!
  • isker
    isker 15 July 2016 10: 25
    +8
    look at the State Duma - no need to go to the zoo!
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 15 July 2016 10: 52
      +4
      Quote: isker
      look at The State Duma - no need to go to the zoo!

      For this, it was createdso that people can admire live cattle without leaving the screen.
  • Basil50
    Basil50 15 July 2016 10: 29
    -1
    The author is right, it’s just not correct to compare with Europe. In RUSSIA it is possible to discuss everything that causes displeasure. So many critics divorced and some without any fear question the right to the existence of the RUSSIAN people and the state of RUSSIA. In Finland, the elite is simply not * seen * for any violation of the law, and it will NEVER be discussed, as in any other European country. In some countries, CRIMINAL liability has been introduced for criticizing government agencies or for what appears to be such, and those who try to criticize determine the violation of the law. Only representatives of the elite have the right to criticize each other, and this right is literally * sacred * for Western * democracies *.
  • sw6513
    sw6513 15 July 2016 10: 31
    +1
    I agree with the author, the only negative is that he writes for whom he will vote.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 15 July 2016 10: 32
    -2
    and this is also the agitation of the communists?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 10: 45
      +1
      Quote: Gardamir
      and this is also the agitation of the communists?

      This is from your friends liberals who for money with even greater pleasure will begin to spoil the Communist Party.
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    3. Erg
      Erg 15 July 2016 11: 00
      +3
      Masha Kerimova loves "shiny things". What surname I otrohal. But I think Maria Washington would do better for her. Don’t you?
    4. Moore
      Moore 15 July 2016 11: 17
      0
      Quote: Gardamir
      and this is also the agitation of the communists?

      No, not communists. This is our beloved to tears, Maria London (Chashchina), the ex-wife of one of our Novosibirsk entrepreneurs, Yakov Ruvimovich of London, the former owner of NTN, funded by Berezovsky.
      Therefore, judge for yourself how hard you need to listen to the girl-analogue of the journalists of "Rain", cutting the truth about our real (I emphasize - real!) problems.
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  • mark_rod
    mark_rod 15 July 2016 10: 33
    +2
    Quote: RomanS
    And you are my friend, an author-provocateur. Whipping up an emotion of indignation with very dubious data. Children of "elites" have always, even in the USSR, had more opportunities than their peers without their father's positions. It was the same under the tsar, and it is the same with the bourgeois today. Even in North Korea! And the conclusion from the article suggests only one - we must go to overthrow the government! And who will be good from this, we already know. Bold minus article!

    The conclusion among smart people is really one that begs - you have to go VOTE! And if you only thought of the overthrow, you yourself will receive a minus!
  • Mobik
    Mobik 15 July 2016 10: 37
    +4
    And then they survived! Labor productivity in China's industry is many times greater than ours (!).

    Wow. We take the GDP of China per individual Chinese and compare with the GDP per individual Russian. We ask ourselves why the produced GDP for an individual Russian is more than for an individual Chinese. If they are so productive, then the inverse relation would be more logical.
    1. Alex_59
      Alex_59 15 July 2016 10: 42
      0
      Quote: Mobik
      Wow. We take the GDP of China per individual Chinese and compare with the GDP per individual Russian. We ask ourselves why the produced GDP for an individual Russian is more than for an individual Chinese. If they are so productive, then the inverse relation would be more logical.

      Labor productivity is the number of products released by one employee. Let’s say Vania from Zamkadovsk collects for 8-hour shift 10 radios. And Chan Me Lei from Suifinhe collects 8 radios for his 30 hour shift. Conclusion: labor productivity in China is 3 times higher.

      And what you write is a completely different indicator. It reflects the conditional wealth of the average citizen.
      1. Mobik
        Mobik 15 July 2016 11: 05
        -2
        Ha ... that is, Vanya from Zamkadia at a conditional price of 100 rubles for a radio receiver produces GDP for 1000 rubles, and comrade Chan from friendly China produces GDP for 3000 rubles. I'm right? And about the fact that this is not the indicator ... ha ... I can divide the gross GDP by the number of people in the country and still get the indicator of GDP in Russia higher than in China. If the Chinese are so productive, then why is their GDP so small?

        PS And what you call conditional wealth is GDP at purchasing power parity. School ...
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 10: 46
      0
      Quote: Mobik

      Wow. We take the GDP of China per individual Chinese and compare it with the GDP per individual Russian. We ask ourselves why the produced GDP for an individual Russian is more than for an individual Chinese.

      Tssssssssssssss, don’t scare them away, they’re starting to suspect something in comments.
  • creak
    creak 15 July 2016 10: 40
    +2
    Quote: isker
    look at the State Duma - no need to go to the zoo!


    In the subject, there is information that the State Duma deputy boxer Valuev will broadcast "Good night kids ...
    Interestingly, after such a transfer, children will be able to sleep peacefully? ... what
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 15 July 2016 11: 09
      +1
      Quote: ranger
      Quote: isker
      look at the State Duma - no need to go to the zoo!


      In the subject, there is information that the State Duma deputy boxer Valuev will broadcast "Good night kids ...
      Interestingly, after such a transfer, children will be able to sleep peacefully? ... what

      Why not? Is he going to scream there? Or bully? His face is specific, but for a fabulous show it is for the better.
  • 0255
    0255 15 July 2016 10: 40
    +6
    What to do? And what is necessary. Go to the polls and vote for the future of the country. For the future of children, grandchildren. I will vote for the Communist Party. I do not like Zyuganov. But the communist idea, the idea of ​​true justice, will remain after his departure.

    Author, do you think that if a politician calls himself a communist, then he is necessarily honest, decent, white and fluffy? Remember - EBN, Gorbachev, Chubais, Gaidar, Shushkevich, Kravchuk, former acting President of Ukraine Turchinov and many other politicians-thieves of the CIS countries were also communists in Soviet times, were brought up on the slogans "World Labor May" and "Party Lenin", and then they renounced this very communism and destroyed the country. Did communist ideology help a lot in 1991?
  • trophy
    trophy 15 July 2016 10: 41
    +13
    Agitation, not agitation, but about SMS for the treatment of children is rightly said. It's a shame. By this fact alone, one can judge the attitude of the state towards its citizens. But the gang of marauders led by the LADY has everything charming, medicines have fallen in price (it’s curious only where and for whom), high school graduates are excellent students (only 20 mistakes per page) and everyone rushed to technical universities (they will engineer us in 10 years). And further down the list, who are interested in the news, look. One stadium in St. Petersburg is worth something. It is enough to translate the video into English, German, French and the language of the aborigines of New Zealand and show it over the hill. No more propaganda is needed. And for GDP they are an effective team, but efficiency is an interesting concept, entirely dependent on the task assigned to the team, but I'm afraid we don't know the task. I don’t campaign for anyone, but personally I’m not going to vote for an abomination called "EdRo" in my life. For me, they do not differ much from any Parnassus.
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 15 July 2016 11: 10
      -2
      So personally, I only agree with the topic of SMS. But at the same time, the author is lying about billions a year. At least, in my comment above, no one wrote a single surname.
      1. My address
        15 July 2016 12: 11
        0
        Type in the internet "How much do they pay Miller, Kostin, Sechin ...". I thought that Sechin has about 600 million a year, but the reality turned out to be even more interesting.
        "The author is lying".
        Fu
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 15 July 2016 12: 24
          -1
          Quote: My address
          Type in the internet "How much do they pay Miller, Kostin, Sechin ...". I thought that Sechin has about 600 million a year, but the reality turned out to be even more interesting.
          "The author is lying".
          Fu

          All I found is DO DUM KI. No more. There is no evidence. And even if he receives 200-500 million, it is still far from billions. Very far. Checked only Sechin. I did not find reliable information. I do not argue that it is very difficult to get it, but I’m not going to take a word of the calculations of journalists either. I’m such a person.
  • DimYang
    DimYang 15 July 2016 10: 42
    +5
    The power should express the national interests of the majority, so that what nationality should the power be? I think then the state building will become a secondary issue.
  • Berkut24
    Berkut24 15 July 2016 10: 44
    +8
    Oh yes, the Communist Party is our everything! Only I recall something from my past life ... But weren't these fighters for developed socialism and communism banged the country in 1991? Didn’t they put the country on an oil needle in the 80s?
    And yes. At one time Zyuganov defended his thesis on something like "building socialism in a single city."

    Well, and if we distance ourselves from specific parties and look at the situation from the outside, I must say that in fact there is almost no difference between the parties. Not only here, but around the world. For their thirst for power, and not ideology (by the way, in the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, there are very rich people, and the money of the oligarchs are also found there), but disconnects the list of sponsors whose interests they are in the State Duma.
    By the way, I worked for 2 years in the State Duma as an assistant to a deputy and my opinion now is that the current electoral system and the system of citizens' representation as a way of electing power and making decisions has long been degraded and outlived. You can watch it in the same Europe and the USA. For a long time there has been capital and not a voter behind the parties. The system is built in such a way that it would seem to the voter that he is deciding something. But in reality it is the one who selects and filters candidates and party lists that decides. With this approach, the voter chooses someone who is convenient to other "fixers". And in this regard, there is no difference between the Communist Party or the United Russia Party, Clinton or Trump.
    Therefore, I personally do not go to the polls. But the trouble is not this, but that I do not yet understand what can be thought up in exchange for the existing system of power formation.
  • cost 75
    cost 75 15 July 2016 10: 44
    -6
    Quote: Leto
    Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
    Only here, according to Stalin, we have disagreements with you — he simply knew and understood that it was impossible to govern the country differently

    Exactly, I didn’t know, he obviously lacked education. The fact that it is possible to develop a state without bloodletting, for some reason many do not know.

    With bloodletting much faster more effective
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 11: 13
      +1
      Quote: kos 75

      With bloodletting much faster more effective

      Well, go kill the neighbor who has a different outlook on life. Only capable of killing his own.
    2. 0255
      0255 15 July 2016 11: 38
      -2
      Quote: kos 75
      Quote: Leto
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      Only here, according to Stalin, we have disagreements with you — he simply knew and understood that it was impossible to govern the country differently

      Exactly, I didn’t know, he obviously lacked education. The fact that it is possible to develop a state without bloodletting, for some reason many do not know.

      With bloodletting much faster more effective

      Then if (God forbid, of course) there will be a new year 1937, about which you and others like you so dream, I wish you the first to fall under the "bloodletting" am
      1. 0255
        0255 15 July 2016 17: 57
        -1
        Judging by the minuses, the 1937 fans themselves do not want to be repressed? laughing
    3. ver_
      ver_ 16 July 2016 15: 13
      -2
      So diligently studied management at burry ..
  • Million
    Million 15 July 2016 10: 46
    +5
    I would vote for the Communist Party, but so far there is at the helm of Zyuganov, who could have been at the helm of Russia, but lay under Yeltsin, there will be no sense.
    But Putin will not give up power until he dies.) After that, maybe something will change if a DECIDENT person comes to power.
    All IMHO
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 July 2016 11: 14
      0
      Quote: Million
      After that, maybe something will change if a DECENT man comes to power.

      I am a decent person, but I do not want to be president.
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 15 July 2016 10: 47
    +2
    And without excesses will not do. Our society really hurts. Here only a global shake can put the brains in the place of some part of society.
    Quote: razmik72
    Another thing is if the Communist Party finds the strength in itself and changes its leader and comes to power, it will begin radical transformations, but without the excesses of Comrade Stalin.
  • KAA_57
    KAA_57 15 July 2016 10: 47
    +3
    What is the alarm about?
    In principle, after the slave system the feudal system is considered more progressive.
  • prior
    prior 15 July 2016 10: 49
    +10
    In fact, in the country there is no party defending the rights of the working class and peasants.
    Officials and other intellectual strata are incapable of creating anything material.
    Without real production, the country has no future. Who will be to the machine - the siloviki? lawyers? economists?
    Can models and choristers grow potatoes?
    Oil and coal, in order to sell, someone must also get.
    So, whatever one may say, feudal dependence for workers is the absence of a future for the state and it’s good
    fertilized soil for terrorism.
    And the fact that elections are coming soon, fundamentally does not change anything.
    1. BecmepH
      BecmepH 15 July 2016 12: 16
      -3
      Who will be to the machine - siloviki
      At least leave these (siloviki) alone ...
  • Verdun
    Verdun 15 July 2016 10: 55
    +2
    I do not agree with Zyuganov in everything and I do not really like the Communist Party in its current form. But the fact is that, against the background of other parties, the Communist Party is the only one that offers real action to develop the country and the economy. This is the only, from my point of view, force today that can change the situation. The fact that there are millionaires in the ranks of the Communist Party is a fact. But the same obvious fact is that in politics it is impossible to do without money. And the party that made the revolution in 1917 received money for it in many ways. Including from the millionaire industrialist Savva Morozov. If you constantly repeat that nothing can be done, then nothing will change. If you want to have an ideal game that matches your look, go and create your own. And if there is no opportunity, then you have to go and vote for what is. And EP, I definitely won’t give my voice.
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 15 July 2016 11: 13
      +6
      Quote: Verdun
      I do not agree with Zyuganov in everything and I do not really like the Communist Party in its current form. But the fact is that, against the background of other parties, the Communist Party is the only one that offers real action to develop the country and the economy. This is the only, from my point of view, force today that can change the situation. The fact that there are millionaires in the ranks of the Communist Party is a fact. But the same obvious fact is that in politics it is impossible to do without money. And the party that made the revolution in 1917 received money for it in many ways. Including from the millionaire industrialist Savva Morozov. If you constantly repeat that nothing can be done, then nothing will change. If you want to have an ideal game that matches your look, go and create your own. And if there is no opportunity, then you have to go and vote for what is. And EP, I definitely won’t give my voice.

      Oh yeah. I listened to Zyuganov at Solovyov. His good advice, smelling of idle talk. When he will take money from all spheres from somewhere. Moreover, the numbers in trillions are scattered, but he never said where he would get them from. Many who can speak sweet words, but how exactly they are going to do this, no one speaks.
      1. Verdun
        Verdun 15 July 2016 11: 42
        0
        Quote: Muvka
        Many who can speak sweet words, but how exactly they are going to do this, no one speaks.

        Members of the Communist Party are many serious scientists and production specialists. Not adventurers like Chubais, and, for obvious reasons, not careerists who have exchanged political views on a successful career and financial well-being. I am absolutely convinced that it is precisely such people who should sit in the State Duma, and not famous athletes and not popular figures of show business. Sitting in the popular media program, visiting the same Solovyov, it is impossible to voice a serious economic program. If only because for the majority of listeners its calculations will be boring and incomprehensible. But, looking at how the Russian oligarchs live, it is clear that there is money for various social and economic programs in the country.
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 15 July 2016 11: 54
          +2
          Quote: Verdun
          Quote: Muvka
          Many who can speak sweet words, but how exactly they are going to do this, no one speaks.

          Members of the Communist Party are many serious scientists and production specialists. Not adventurers like Chubais, and, for obvious reasons, not careerists who have exchanged political views on a successful career and financial well-being. I am absolutely convinced that it is precisely such people who should sit in the State Duma, and not famous athletes and not popular figures of show business. Sitting in the popular media program, visiting the same Solovyov, it is impossible to voice a serious economic program. If only because for the majority of listeners its calculations will be boring and incomprehensible. But, looking at how the Russian oligarchs live, it is clear that there is money for various social and economic programs in the country.

          Yeah, I especially like it when Solovyov asks Kalashnikov a question about how many billionaires they have in the party. He just smiles. Yes Yes. They are white and fluffy. And as far as I know Chubais - not in EP. Correct if not so.
          1. Verdun
            Verdun 15 July 2016 12: 19
            -1
            Quote: Muvka
            And as far as I know Chubais - not in EP. Correct if not so.

            And I didn’t write that Chubais is in United Russia. And, I repeat again, today's Communist Party is not perfect. And once again I will say that you can only get the perfect party for your preferences and views, by creating such a party yourself.
            Yes Yes. They are white and fluffy.
            No, not white and not fluffy, because in politics these just do not happen.
            1. Muvka
              Muvka 15 July 2016 12: 26
              +1
              Quote: Verdun
              Quote: Muvka
              And as far as I know Chubais - not in EP. Correct if not so.

              And I didn’t write that Chubais is in United Russia. And, I repeat again, today's Communist Party is not perfect. And once again I will say that you can only get the perfect party for your preferences and views, by creating such a party yourself.
              Yes Yes. They are white and fluffy.
              No, not white and not fluffy, because in politics these just do not happen.

              And EP is not perfect. But at least it is changing for the better, although not as fast as we would like. And why, with an imperfect EP, should we vote for an imperfect Communist Party? Sewed on soap? Only there will be newcomers who begin to suck up the budget with a vengeance if they reach the authorities. Those that are now in power are at least relatively well-fed.
              1. Verdun
                Verdun 15 July 2016 12: 49
                +1
                Quote: Muvka
                Only there will be newcomers who begin to suck up the budget with a vengeance if they reach the authorities. Those that are now in power are at least relatively well-fed.

                Excuse me, but this is an absolutely compromising position. The position of the swamp, which should not be disturbed.
                And EP is not perfect. But at least it is changing for the better, although not as fast as we would like.
                And what are these changes? Is it that these gentlemen, finally realizing that the rest of the world is not going to be crazy about them, have begun to urgently strengthen the defense capabilities of a country whose economy is not prepared for such a turn of events in order to protect their interests? Or what is happening now on the streets of Moscow with the filing of the mayor and member of EP Mr. Sobyanin? You do not drive through the cottage villages, but through villages, dying cities, where already a few hundred kilometers from the capital you will not find any work or law before talking about improvements.
                1. Muvka
                  Muvka 15 July 2016 13: 27
                  -2
                  Quote: Verdun
                  Quote: Muvka
                  Only there will be newcomers who begin to suck up the budget with a vengeance if they reach the authorities. Those that are now in power are at least relatively well-fed.

                  Excuse me, but this is an absolutely compromising position. The position of the swamp, which should not be disturbed.
                  And EP is not perfect. But at least it is changing for the better, although not as fast as we would like.
                  And what are these changes? Is it that these gentlemen, finally realizing that the rest of the world is not going to be crazy about them, have begun to urgently strengthen the defense capabilities of a country whose economy is not prepared for such a turn of events in order to protect their interests? Or what is happening now on the streets of Moscow with the filing of the mayor and member of EP Mr. Sobyanin? You do not drive through the cottage villages, but through villages, dying cities, where already a few hundred kilometers from the capital you will not find any work or law before talking about improvements.

                  You understand that now, even if we disturb this swamp, there will be another swamp. Sense of changing the swamp to the swamp? In addition to ONF, no one is credible. But ONF is not a party, alas.
                  1. Verdun
                    Verdun 15 July 2016 13: 50
                    +1
                    Quote: Muvka
                    You understand that now, even if we disturb this swamp, there will be another swamp.

                    I see no reason for such a statement. Already the exam, then the Communists will definitely cancel.))
                    In addition to ONF, no one is credible. But ONF is not a party, alas.
                    The ONF is nothing more than a beautiful signboard for those who are fascinated by Putin's personality. I am not one of those, because I remember well the moment when Yeltsin brought Vladimir Vladimirovich by the hand and told the people - this is your new president. Such "democracy" is alien to me.
  • Moore
    Moore 15 July 2016 10: 57
    +3
    That is why feudalism keeps the country’s money (gold and currency) with the enemies and waits for a development money from there. Well, he does not know any other way of development.

    Under feudalism, the main thing is to find what you can sell there without special expenses, and leave part of the proceeds where you sold them (our gold and foreign exchange reserves are in the obligations of Western partners, which ordinary citizens consider enemies), and distribute part of them according to their own (for salaries of hundreds of millions and premiums to top managers), and toss the rest to the electorate.

    Dear author, do not erect feudalism on feudalism, do not mix flies with cutlets. Well, if you want to describe the current state of things with some derogatory short term - remember, the children of whose nomenclature (Venediktovs, Svanidzy, Hessen, Gaidara, E. Kiselyov) now spit shit at what is left of us from the USSR.
    And one more thing: I really would like to look at the expression on the face of the leader of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation if he is elected President. Those. when it will be necessary to make government decisions.
    1. Army soldier2
      Army soldier2 15 July 2016 13: 15
      +2
      Zyuganov never agree to become president. 1996 year clearly showed it. It is more profitable for him (Zyuganov) to broadcast in the Duma and not to answer for anything.
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  • Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 15 July 2016 11: 00
    +10
    Nobody calls to overthrow, but only think with your head when you go to the polls. That's right, the man wrote - there is nothing to complain about. And certainly to vote for a marginal anti-national EP is the height of madness! The fruits of their "activity" are too obvious - the country is in operation and a terrible systemic crisis. For 2,5 decades, everything was destroyed, but nothing was built. And the most important thing - purposefully education destroyed! The country, with the strong support of United Russia, was debilitated and stubbornly continued to be dumped. I don’t even want to talk about medicine, entrepreneurship and everything else.
    I’m also sitting and scoring - well, how will edros again rule the ball ?! This is the road to nowhere! And do not be Putin-scary to think what would happen! LDPR and SR are the same EP, only a side view. You need to have no brains at all in order to cast your vote for them. Fully puppet and impotent parties for the background. And the Communist Party, too, has not gone far and, essno, is strongly discredited by its not-so-distant leader - Zyuganov. In addition, deputies from all of these parties constantly run to one or the other, depending on market conditions, personal prospects and opportunities. With all this, the Communist Party is the lesser of evils and, probably, some steps towards the social state can occur, that's why the author stands for the Communist Party. Everything is logical. Personally, I am greatly impressed by the Great Fatherland Party, but I understand that they have few chances in these elections, so it is advisable not to delay the votes of the Communist Party.
    And yet - out of my many acquaintances of different castes and estates, only one deputy from EP will vote for EP, well, plus employees of his company who help him in the elections. AND EVERYTHING! So the EP can be defeated only in the case of the usual rigging of the results.
    And what do you think - is it normal - to topple the country to the fullest extent, and even urge you to vote for yourself ?! This is surrealism, but for the people - masochism! EP had enough time to show itself from a constructive position. That did not happen and of course never happens - not for this the people pulled in there, not to think about the country, but only about their beloved ones. It is enough to look at the party leaders and those edrosov who are being fooled in the State Duma.
    EP - REFUSE!
  • Romin
    Romin 15 July 2016 11: 01
    +6
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Alex_59
    You would have stroked all with a pink little rukovichku on the head and they would have run the Dneproges to build joyfully. Dr. Aibolit, you are our ...

    There are a bridge to the Crimea and sticks do not drive anyone. You probably still cannot understand how this became possible.

    ... hmm ... I can not help but ask; Do you know whose company is building, who is the owner and whose friend he is? And how did the estimate change from the initial 50 billion to more than 250 billion? All data is in open sources.
    And why other "groups" or companies do not build, I hope you do not need to explain how 44FZ works on the table and "under the table"!
    They have created a good system - "their own" for their own.
    Do you know about the St. Petersburg football stadium? How much has already been spent on it and how the estimate has changed;)
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 15 July 2016 11: 19
      0
      Quote: Romin
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Quote: Alex_59
      You would have stroked all with a pink little rukovichku on the head and they would have run the Dneproges to build joyfully. Dr. Aibolit, you are our ...

      There are a bridge to the Crimea and sticks do not drive anyone. You probably still cannot understand how this became possible.

      ... hmm ... I can not help but ask; Do you know whose company is building, who is the owner and whose friend he is? And how did the estimate change from the initial 50 billion to more than 250 billion? All data is in open sources.
      And why other "groups" or companies do not build, I hope you do not need to explain how 44FZ works on the table and "under the table"!
      They have created a good system - "their own" for their own.
      Do you know about the St. Petersburg football stadium? How much has already been spent on it and how the estimate has changed;)

      Well, first of all, about 50 billion I found only that the tunnel would cost so much, not the bridge. Secondly, you are lying about the number "more than 250 billion". Here is the latest news http://www.gudok.ru/infrastructure/?ID=1343107
      So the question is - why are you lying?
    2. Muvka
      Muvka 15 July 2016 11: 37
      +1
      And so for reference, and East is also building a friend of Putin? I'm just not up to date, really. Or maybe Putin’s friend, if he has a construction company, should build at least ANYTHING?
      1. Army soldier2
        Army soldier2 15 July 2016 13: 19
        0
        Muvka, are you tired of persuading those who cannot listen?
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 15 July 2016 13: 28
          +1
          Quote: Army 2
          Muvka, are you tired of persuading those who cannot listen?

          Not tired
  • NordUral
    NordUral 15 July 2016 11: 02
    +8
    All right! Unfortunately, we only have to admit that we have not just feudalism, but organized crime groups pretending to be the state. By the way, feudal relations are also organized criminal relations - the overlord - the thief in law and so on.
  • Terner38
    Terner38 15 July 2016 11: 09
    +5
    All of the problems mentioned in the article (elites, low productivity, how beautiful it is abroad, etc.) exist in the country throughout the entire period of its existence - read Tolstoy, Dostoevsky and others. But leaders like Alexander the third, Stolypin, Stalin, Prophetic Oleg, those who they almost alone dragged the leadership (for the good) of the country on average once every 75 years.
  • Mobik
    Mobik 15 July 2016 11: 24
    0
    It’s funny to me from the local kakbe commies, so if you undertook to call the existing order feudalism, then you are not komunyaki, but clowns are shallow. Because you need to read the classics of communism, and not show off on the forums with your kakbe wit. And among the classics it is clearly written that every formation is characterized by industrial relations. And how would you not want to be in your sandbox, but today's production relations do not stretch the term feudalism. And yes, remember !!! Sloppy use of terms gives rise to sloppy thinking. Taksta, ladies and gentlemen, you think sloppy.
    1. Army soldier2
      Army soldier2 15 July 2016 13: 21
      0
      And Florensky also wrote: "To find a scientific term is to half-make a scientific discovery."
  • Makarov
    Makarov 15 July 2016 11: 28
    +2
    This is called propaganda ... well, it’s interesting, given that the Communist Party does not look like a patriotic party ... it’s by analogy with the beginning of the XNUMXth century more likely Trotskyites than followers of Stalin ... I won’t be surprised if Zyuganov rests at the end of his luxurious career if not in Mexico, then in one of the Americas)
  • Wolka
    Wolka 15 July 2016 11: 33
    -4
    no, I'm for doctor Zhirinovsky ...
  • zheman
    zheman 15 July 2016 11: 35
    0
    Everything is correctly written in the article. The last chance to save the country before the Great War is to vote for the Communist Party in the upcoming elections.
  • Art777
    Art777 15 July 2016 11: 43
    +2
    I’ll definitely go to the polls, and I’ll vote for the Communist Party! Not because I consider these Communist Party businessmen to be Communists, but it’s just that evil is er .. For everything is tired. It is impossible to live like that anymore.
  • Alex66
    Alex66 15 July 2016 11: 48
    +7
    The EP in the chapter with DAM, under Putin’s roof has exhausted itself. Of course, Putin has a chance to move away from DAM with EP, but she has not lost her 37 years. Therefore, it’s right to vote for the Communist Party, for the idea not for modern communists (they are not communists), at least to show that this is closer to us than a new kind of feudalism.
  • v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 15 July 2016 11: 49
    +3
    What to do? And what is necessary. Go to the polls and vote for the future of the country. For the future of children, grandchildren. I will vote for the Communist Party. I do not like Zyuganov. But the communist idea, the idea of ​​true justice, will remain after his departure.

    I completely agree with the author. The new system came to power in the wake of the fight against
    privileges of the previous. How pathetic these privileges seem to be from the current
    times! And what a shameless "power with a human face" has turned!
  • Romin
    Romin 15 July 2016 11: 51
    +8
    The article, in my opinion, conceptually highlights our problem areas. And of course it is painted with "political paint", but as I see it, it is not custom-made, but expresses the author's opinion. And I respect the author for his open position! And minus, if the "language" is in place, write your own and reflect the situation as you see fit! He really wants to read the ideas of "United Russia" or "Parnassus"!
    I put these parties on one level. Since I consider them a manifestation of extremes, in my opinion, each of them, to one degree or another, is harmful to the development of Russia.
    About the "Communist Party",; had a meeting with Zyuganov and not a long conversation, according to the results, with all faithfulness I can say that he (as if softer) ... a businessman, I hope he will not ask for a mausoleum for himself (since apparently he intends lead the party until the body is removed). The party declares slogans that are correct in principle, but not vital, not feasible and populistic.
    "Liberal Democratic Party" is a separate story altogether ... The party of one person, and even the successor of his son, prepared a sign of feudalism and nepotism. The whole idea and program of the party is based on criticism and populism.
    "Fair Russia" .... I wrote a single or fair? ;))) I hope these are clear.
    "Apple" .... So apple or parnassus? ;)))) You will decide.
    And then there is a certain understanding that there is no that force that I would like to go ... to join its ranks ... Form its essence.
    There is no “Flexible” party or parties whose program and leaders could coincide with our views. All parties somehow trample in their "corridors-borders" and then begin to "rot" from the inside; do not develop, do not keep pace with the times, are not self-critical and populistic.
    In my opinion, this is one of the main problems of modern Russia, the lack of choice! Lack of independent choice.
    We vote the majority either so that it would not be worse or against someone. And to say with confidence that yes, this is a program and the actions of this party are close to me, most of us cannot! Agree, it's true!
    For those who do not agree, I write about the majority of the population of Russia and conscious choice, and not contrary to ...
    And I do not consider the support of the devoted small groups of the Communist Party, Parnassus, Yabloko, Fair and United Russia, which make up as a percentage up to 10% of Russia's population.
    A new force must appear
    1. Army soldier2
      Army soldier2 15 July 2016 13: 25
      +1
      Where does "conceptuality" come from in the article? How did you see it? Article - the emotions of an elderly honored veteran!
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  • Igor V
    Igor V 15 July 2016 12: 08
    +7
    When the sanctions happened, I thought and was delighted. Here is the turning point when we can change our economy towards the West. And no one in the Washington Regional Committee will ask - they themselves forced it. But time passes, and things are still there. Apparently, our government cannot refuse in any way from the leading and directing black (for now) "market hand". All this is starting to get boring.
  • kotuk_ha_oxote
    kotuk_ha_oxote 15 July 2016 12: 36
    0
    The author, please list those items in the Communist Party program that should improve the material and cultural situation of the bulk of the working people. Also indicate the resource support for these plans.

    The Communist Party’s program has nothing to do with communism or socialism. The usual bourgeois party with left symbols and rhetoric.
    1. Verdun
      Verdun 15 July 2016 15: 32
      +2
      Quote: kotuk_ha_oxote
      The Communist Party’s program has nothing to do with communism or socialism. The usual bourgeois party with left symbols and rhetoric.

      You probably just didn’t notice that the amendments to the law by the ruling party made open communist rhetoric, and even more so, actions impossible as falling under various articles of the Criminal Code, from insulting religious feelings to terrorism.
  • Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 15 July 2016 12: 37
    +3
    Article (+).
    Elections by elections, but the essence of the article cannot be refuted, it is a reality !!!
  • Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 15 July 2016 12: 43
    -1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    All communists are sitting on the forums, and on the street ask, for the Communist Party 0 whole, hell tenths. At local rallies of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, from the strength of three dozen prisenyvany dream of cloning Lenin laughing

    Quote: Alexander Romanov

    Well, here they offered to clone wassat

    It’s better to clone the Romanov dynasty! laughing