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Beijing is not going to follow the decision of the Hague Court

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After considering a complaint by the Philippines about China's misconduct in the South China Sea (SCS), the Court of Arbitration (PCA) in The Hague ruled that Beijing has no historical rights to uninhabited atolls and islets. In response, the Chinese said that the decision of The Hague was not a decree for them, writes Expert Online.



“Although the rulings of the Permanent Court of Arbitration do not have an enforcement mechanism, the Filipinos did a great job. They accused the People's Republic of China of non-compliance with the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, which the Chinese, by the way, ratified, and created a precedent that all participants in territorial disputes in the SCM can now use, the article says.

The publication reminds that China "claims more than 80% of the SCM water area, while the states of the region: Vietnam, Taiwan, the Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei that have interests in the SCM do not agree with these requests."

Probably, they could succeed in challenging the territories, if they acted together, but there can be no talk of a coalition, since they all have claims to each other.

“The complaint says that the Chinese seized Scarborough’s reefs in 2012, which Manila also claims to be. Beijing refused to provide documents to the Hague court confirming its rights to the islands, but in December 2014 of the year stated that the dispute with the Philippines is a dispute between the two states and does not fall within the jurisdiction of the Hague Court. The PCA, however, rejected this argument, ”the newspaper writes.

After three years of litigation, the judge finally ruled in favor of the plaintiff, saying: “There is no evidence that China in the past had exclusive control over the sea and its resources. The Chamber came to the conclusion that China has no legal basis for presenting historical rights to resources that are within the nine-point demarcation line, which was held in Beijing. ”

“As for China, the court decision does not oblige us to anything. The Chinese government has repeatedly made it clear that it does not recognize him and will not fulfill that our representatives will not be present at the trial, ”said Chinese Admiral Sun Jianqu.

Judging by the statements of high-ranking Chinese politicians, Beijing is determined to be decisive, and does not intend to yield to anyone.

The RSA decision is unlikely to ease tensions in the region. “On the contrary, it will only strengthen it. Despite the fact that all parties declare their commitment to peaceful methods of resolving conflicts and disputes, the possibility of military conflict continues unabated, ”the paper concludes.
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  1. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 13 July 2016 11: 52
    +7
    Well done Chinese, they know their job. What is beneficial for them is noticed and welcomed, what is not beneficial for them - they do not want to know and do not want to see. And they’re not going to execute.
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 13 July 2016 11: 55
      +20
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Well done Chinese, they know their job. What is beneficial for them is noticed and welcomed, what is not beneficial for them - they do not want to know and do not want to see. And they’re not going to execute.

      Just like the Americans. In your USA, well done too?
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 13 July 2016 12: 00
        +25
        Beijing is not going to follow the decision of the Hague Court

        Geese, Geese! - The Hague! Do you want to? - Yes Yes Yes! Well fly high (and far) ...! smile
        In short: put China on the Hague court with the device.
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 13 July 2016 12: 05
          +4
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Hague! Do you want to? - Yes Yes Yes! Well, fly high (and far).

          ++++++++ Thank you, I had a good laugh! good
        2. cniza
          cniza 13 July 2016 12: 07
          +11
          The court works selectively, and therefore, China will not comply with its decision.
          1. My doctor
            My doctor 13 July 2016 13: 46
            +8
            Quote: cniza
            The court works selectively, and therefore, China will not comply with its decision

            What exactly is selectivity here? The fact that China lays claim to the whole sea leaving others only thin strips near the coast. What is the logic of China, "I am strong as the USA, so bear with it." The Chinese version should be a kilometer from the joint sea border with Malaysia to the Malaysian coast, and several hundred kilometers to the Chinese land?
            I certainly exaggerate but a tourist in Vietnam or the Philippines to take a Chinese visa from the beach to enter the sea?
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 13 July 2016 15: 28
              +13
              My Doctor, good day! Here you need to know the history of the issue. It’s like with the Crimea.
              In my opinion, the essence of the conflict is as follows.

              Everything was fine until recently. There were sluggish conversations over controversial Taiwan; along the Malacca Strait, China transported up to 80% of all its exports (read along the South-Kit. Sea). But as soon as the United States declared China to be its adversary, pirates appeared and the systematic exercises of the NATO Navy and allies in the region began. As a result, systematic overlapping of the strait and sea lanes in the southwest began sea. Is it like shutting off gas transit through Ukraine to Russia, remember gas wars? Then, China (like the Russian Federation on gas) began to search:
              1. An alternative to sea routes in the south. This is where the Chinese remembered the proposal of the National Academy of Sciences on the Silk Road (at that time we already had a part of the infrastructure ready - reloading capacities on our track (change of railway steam wheels)). That's when they began to actively promote it. Now they themselves have taken the initiative in their hands. Russia supports: proposed BAM and the Northern Sea Route. We are all profitable, because we get money for transit and become important transport arteries on the continent and to the world. trade; China and Southeast Asia guaranteed, reliable transportation. But the Chinese went further by proposing the Silk Economic Belt and creating the AIIB. I think you know that this particular Bank is going to finance the autobahn around the Black Sea - as an example of AIIB's intentions.
              By analogy of the Russian Federation. Built Nord Stream-1, offers South, Turkish and Nord Stream-2.
              2. Military response to the militarization of the South-K Sea. So these loose islands with runways began to appear. And in order to show who is the boss in the house, they declare all the South-K sea their own - the USA and NATO are actually far from this region. In my opinion, this is the first case of such a "tough" response for the PRC. If earlier the Chinese were reluctant to take part in the UN, peacekeeping. operations; now they themselves are being initiated in Africa (one whale peacemaker was recently killed there). The PRC shows that it is not going to be a peace-loving sheep that will endure everything - they began to butt for their interests, and not swallow them, as they did before.
              By analogy, the actions of the Russian Federation in Ukraine.
              From the point of view of politicians. We do not need straining in Asia (and I do not think that China wants it, because it will give an occasion to attack the whole world and give a bunch of suspicions to neighbors - they do not need it, they need now, amid tension with NATO, strong allies - RF (CSTO)); but Beijing’s actions draw on the resources and capabilities of NATO and the United States, which is naturally beneficial for us (EAEU).
              Against the background of all this, Comrade Comrade’s speech is noteworthy. Xi July 1, where he said that he was convinced of the need for a military alliance with Russia.
              In my opinion, the PRC specifically declares the South Sea to be its own: not in order to swear with its neighbors, but in spite of US policy in the region. Because for them, overlapping the marine area of ​​that Indonesia or only the southern part of the sea would be fatal for export (see map). hi
              And here is the interesting thing. If the PRC and the Russian Federation (CSTO) create a military alliance, then where will the neighbors run to resolve contentious issues? I think that those Filipinos and Vietnamese will run to the north, to the Kremlin, and not to the West. Because it will become clear that NATO will not solve the issue by force, but Moscow, as an ally of the PRC, will be able to convey its aspirations to the Dragon and find consensus. The role of the Kremlin will grow many times in Asia. hi
              1. My doctor
                My doctor 14 July 2016 11: 38
                +1
                Quote: Kasym
                In my opinion, the essence of the conflict is as follows.

                A huge plus for you, for a detailed explanation of the motives of the PRC, but not for the last paragraph.
                Quote: Kasym
                And here is the interesting thing. If the PRC and the Russian Federation (CSTO) create a military alliance, then where will the neighbors run to resolve contentious issues? I think that those Filipinos and Vietnamese will run to the north, to the Kremlin, and not to the West. Because it will become clear that NATO will not solve the issue by force, but Moscow, as an ally of China, will be able to convey its aspirations to the Dragon and find consensus. The role of the Kremlin will grow many times in Asia

                It so happened that for every action we are looking for resistance in exactly the sphere in which it occurs, it is this way that seems to us to be the most natural for people. If China presses them with a demonstration of military power, the first thing that comes to mind is to respond symmetrically, and only the United States can do this. And even more so to agree on infringement of the interests of China is easier with his rival than with an ally. But for China itself, the weight of America is incomparably higher than the weight of Russia due to the joint trade.
          2. Shuttle
            Shuttle 13 July 2016 16: 35
            +3
            Quote: cniza
            The court works selectively, and therefore, China will not comply with its decision.

            Court? Which court? The Hague? - no, have not heard.

            Why are there no Bushes? At least the younger? Why isn’t Colin Powell there? Why is there no Obama?
            Just asked.
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      2. bulvas
        bulvas 13 July 2016 12: 02
        +19
        Quote: Muvka
        Just like the Americans. In your USA, well done too?


        To begin with, let The Hague deal with the actions of the United States, Britain and make a fair decision.
        For example, for the invasion of Iraq.

        Then see how they will implement this decision.

        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 13 July 2016 12: 43
          +5
          Quote: bulvas
          Then see how they will implement this decision

          US does not recognize this court
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      4. V.ic
        V.ic 13 July 2016 12: 04
        0
        Quote: Muvka
        In your USA, well done too?

        What do you think?
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 13 July 2016 12: 32
          +4
          Quote: V.ic
          Quote: Muvka
          In your USA, well done too?

          What do you think?

          In my opinion this is an unscrupulous tumor.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 13 July 2016 12: 44
            0
            Quote: Muvka
            In my opinion this is an unscrupulous tumor.

            That is, both the Chinese and we, having put on Gaga, have lost their conscience?
        2. Monarchist
          Monarchist 13 July 2016 15: 31
          0
          In my opinion they are gibberish to put it mildly!
      5. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 13 July 2016 12: 42
        +2
        Quote: Muvka

        Just like Americans

        We also began to put on the Gaga, but for some reason you give the United States as an example.
        1. Monarchist
          Monarchist 13 July 2016 15: 36
          +1
          Field Marshal, when did the Russian Federation send to the Gaga court? In my opinion, the issue of Crimea is not considered there
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 13 July 2016 19: 50
            +1
            Quote: Monarchist
            Field Marshal, when did the Russian Federation send to the Gaga court? In my opinion, the issue of Crimea is not considered there

            But the question of Serbia and Milosevic was considered ...
            Even Carla Del Ponte (chairman of the tribunal) stated after the trial that he was biased and fully politicized in deciding on the court and sentencing.
            WHAT COURT ????
            SO - Sharashkina office, whose activities are fully controlled by the United States!
      6. passing
        passing 13 July 2016 17: 05
        +1
        And the United States, of course, well done, how much is said first of all for the country's interests, and if it is possible to apply the existing international laws perfectly, it is not possible, then we must say that the laws are not correct.
      7. volot-voin
        volot-voin 13 July 2016 17: 21
        0
        Quote: Muvka
        Just like the Americans. In your USA, well done too?

        Yes, because they respect their independence, and put their opinions above some kind of Hague courts there.
        Russia, too, has long been time to put on The Hague, the European Union and the United States combined, ugh you are the UK there ...
        Recognize China’s rights to the South China Sea in exchange for recognition of Crimea, for example ...
      8. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 13 July 2016 19: 06
        0
        Quote: Muvka
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        Well done Chinese, they know their job.

        Just like the Americans. In your USA, well done too?


        In my opinion you are engaged in sophistry and nonsense, just like the Americans. So you're an American?
    2. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 13 July 2016 11: 57
      +6
      A worthy example of an answer to "partners" against their will. Russia should also use this action more often - they will respect more! Briefly and clearly NSD (translated from diplomatic to generally understandable - Not your Dog's Business!) negative
    3. Aleksander
      Aleksander 13 July 2016 11: 58
      +12
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Well done chinese


      But the insolents, judging by the map, to the neighbors whose shores this sea washes, generally did not leave ANYTHING ....
    4. hirurg
      hirurg 13 July 2016 12: 02
      +2
      Someone in The Hague decided and half-country hrenak cut off - I exaggerate.
      They ate too much.
      For China, this is strategically important.
      Therefore, he will put on all these decisions and not only courts.
    5. stoker
      stoker 13 July 2016 12: 19
      +1
      China is making mistakes. And it pleases.
      1. stas
        stas 13 July 2016 12: 32
        +13
        China is doing right, where is China and who is The Hague.

        The Hague itself lowered itself by political court decisions.
        Omitted the very place near the bucket in the EU.
        1. stoker
          stoker 13 July 2016 13: 18
          +2
          Quote: stas
          China is doing right, where is China and who is The Hague.

          The Hague itself lowered itself by political court decisions.
          Omitted the very place near the bucket in the EU.


          "... The International Court of Justice (officially, according to the UN Charter - the International Court of Justice [1], English International Court of Justice, French Cour internationale de Justice) is one of the six main organs of the United Nations, established by the UN Charter to achieve one of the main objectives of the UN "to carry out by peaceful means, in accordance with the principles of justice and international law, the settlement or resolution of international disputes or situations that may lead to the violation of peace" ... "

          Any objections?

          Here some emotional visitors confuse it with the Hague Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia. Must disappoint. There is nothing in common between them except the word "Hague".
          1. stas
            stas 13 July 2016 16: 04
            +1
            In recent years, has the UN stopped at least one military conflict? Not.
            US lawlessness condemned? Not.
            Thanks to the United States, the UN has long become a formality.

            So the stoker burn the stove further.
            1. stoker
              stoker 13 July 2016 19: 35
              +1
              Quote: stas
              In recent years, has the UN stopped at least one military conflict? Not.
              US lawlessness condemned? Not.
              Thanks to the United States, the UN has long become a formality.

              So the stoker burn the stove further.


              So I "drown" with such wood as you.
              As for the UN, it was through UN decisions that conflicts in Transnistria, Abkhazia, Sudan, and Uganda stopped.
              But where all sorts of NATO, the Big Eights, the Little Sixes, the Norman Fours operated around the UN, nothing worked.
              I want to remind you that the UN is an international organization. And its officials cannot stop or prevent anything. Only participating countries can prevent it with their solutions.
              I would like to remind you that the UN Charter has not changed. One country, one vote. Nobody took away the right of "veto" from Russia. We have the right to put any question to a vote in the Security Council. Including sanctions against the United States. No one can interfere with us. Whom did the United States crush? How?
              But we lost authority after 1991. Countries prefer to focus on the United States, the European Union, China, on their own interests, rather than on us. And its influence will have to be restored for many, many years. If it still works out ...
        2. stoker
          stoker 13 July 2016 13: 45
          +1
          By the way, this is the very Court that in 2011 rejected the claim of Georgia against the Russian Federation in connection with the events of 2008. Yes, yes, when they ripped off crazy Georgia.
    6. Vend
      Vend 13 July 2016 12: 36
      +3
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Well done Chinese, they know their job. What is beneficial for them is noticed and welcomed, what is not beneficial for them - they do not want to know and do not want to see. And they’re not going to execute.

      Another plop shows that the Hague court has outlived itself.
    7. Sashka
      Sashka 13 July 2016 12: 43
      +6
      This is a little different ... Russia "squeezed" Crimea back. In the eyes of the community, the world is barbarism, for us, and to be honest, historical justice. China turns a blind eye to this, since it itself began to step up efforts in the disputed territories. I would not be surprised if China later recognizes Crimea, and we China's right to the disputed territories. Probably the GDP and the SDP agreed on this in advance. Russia has set a precedent for such things (before, only the exceptional could divide territories after the 2nd MV). Wow, a "regional" country has decided to challenge the monopoly. In general, China supported such an undertaking, because it is beneficial for it, it has the same problems. We look forward to continuing.
      Good day!
      1. vector96
        vector96 13 July 2016 15: 04
        +1
        Well, now America and its slave Europe should begin to hysteria and encumber China with all possible sanctions. Waiting for.
      2. Siberian
        Siberian 13 July 2016 20: 24
        +2
        Yes, China has long pursued a policy of reasonable egoism. It was China that responded to the human rights cries of Pinadostan with advice to tackle its own problems, and not to meddle in the internal life of China. This is about the Chinese laws on demography and reproduction (or rather, its prevention) of "sunny" Chinese (oligophrenics, downs, imbitsils). Yes, these laws are somewhat repressive. BUT they are Chinese, they are not imposed on the world, and they do not require US approval. So this is not China's first Phi.
      3. Air defense SSH
        Air defense SSH 13 July 2016 23: 39
        +1
        China is a difficult friend, you should always be on your guard with it. In Chinese schools, children are told about Siberia as temporarily lost territories ....
        It is good that the United States and China are straining, but we do not need to relax.
    8. Kent0001
      Kent0001 13 July 2016 12: 54
      +1
      Only a strong power can afford it. China has confirmed its status.
    9. GradusHuK
      GradusHuK 13 July 2016 12: 59
      0
      That's right! And who are the judges?
    10. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 13 July 2016 17: 58
      +1
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Well done Chinese, they know their job. What is beneficial for them is noticed and welcomed, what is not beneficial for them - they do not want to know and do not want to see. And they’re not going to execute.

      Right, China is doing everything. But...
      There is no benefit to China here. That we are in the Crimea, that China has seized the reefs with a death grip, one naked security, read the viability of the state. They have all the energy and cargo passing through this corridor, and then the US fleet loomed. Not immediately, but the block riveted, conducts maneuvers, and now they have arrived.
      Therefore, to stand and stand your ground, there is no other way.
      And the United States screwed up again. Thought they could violate international law. If their fleet were there, in the ports of Vietnam, the Philippines, Indonesia, and only a little China jerked, the fleet would be at a point. China would not dare to lure, but now .... Hello Obama before retirement.
      1. madjik
        madjik 13 July 2016 18: 38
        0
        I think all their kunya is associated with this ...
  2. Abbra
    Abbra 13 July 2016 11: 53
    +8
    This is ours, in Chinese! Big power with parting lays on the Hague! Right. Let two states argue. I think they will come to a normal decision. I still have Milosevic at the trial in my eyes ...
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 13 July 2016 12: 04
      +8
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Well done Chinese, they know their job. What is beneficial for them is noticed and welcomed, what is not beneficial for them - they do not want to know and do not want to see. And they’re not going to execute.

      Quote: Abbra
      This is ours, in Chinese! Big power with parting lays on the Hague! Right. Let two states argue. I think they will come to a normal solution.

      Ay me a question? No more? What will you say if exactly the same way the PRC puts a part or instrument on all our agreements? You know better. This will put a case-law on the non-fulfillment of international treaties.

      “As for China, the court decision does not oblige us to anything. The Chinese government has repeatedly made it clear that it does not recognize him and will not fulfill that our representatives will not be present at the trial, ”said Chinese Admiral Sun Jianqu.
      And chop off a piece of the Far East, according to the Treaty of Nerchinsk in 1689.
      1. water
        water 13 July 2016 12: 21
        +10
        In order for our Far East to always be ours, the Russian state should have only two strong allies - the Army and the Navy! Not foreign states, not domesticated oligarchs, not liberals, not entrepreneurs. Army and Navy!
        1. stoker
          stoker 13 July 2016 15: 02
          +5
          Quote: watermark
          In order for our Far East to always be ours, the Russian state should have only two strong allies - the Army and the Navy! Not foreign states, not domesticated oligarchs, not liberals, not entrepreneurs. Army and Navy!


          Yeah. Recall 1905 year. Or 1917 year. Well, and in fairness, 1991 year.
          The state has only one ally - the people. And only one real pillar is economics.
          And the one who said about the army and navy, indeed, had no other allies. He doesn’t care about the Russian people, but he never heard about the economy. Therefore, he and his descendants brought Russia in 1917 year.
          1. Monarchist
            Monarchist 13 July 2016 16: 13
            -1
            Captain, for your information, Tsar Alexander Peacemakers thought more than you about the interests of the state, but forgot to inform you. Then the economy and others were not used, but they thought to preserve the state treasury. “The state has only one ally, the people.” Let them minify me, but I will say: Nonsense! In order to preserve our sovereignty and feed the people, we need an Army and a Navy! In 1905, taking advantage of the weakness (more precisely, stupidity) of the Emperor, there was an attempt to collapse the country, but failed, and in 1917 it was possible. 1991 and many current troubles, they are all from 1917!
            1. stas
              stas 13 July 2016 16: 56
              +1
              The monarchist, the army and the navy are the people who serve there, these are the people who build their faces in sweat, make weapons. These are people who pay tax on which weapons are created.

              So go with your king to ....!

              An army and a fleet without a people is an empty phrase.

              The main ally of Russia is the Russian people, and then everything else.
              The power of the state is created by the people, and the kings come and go, and the people remain to live and build.

              Honestly, your comment is only rude Russian mat.
              These kings are asking .... the country, and most importantly, that the new king in a new round of history would not repeat this. But the economic policy of our KING leads to this.

              Maybe he will change his mind and understand that it is impossible to dump all the problems of the state on the not-not-rich people, with the obese elite.
            2. stoker
              stoker 13 July 2016 21: 19
              0
              Quote: Monarchist
              Captain, for your information, Sovereign Alexander Mirotoretsev thought more of you about the interests of the state, but forgot to inform you.


              I can't say anything about "Alexander Mirotvortsev". I just do not know. Maybe he really forgot to tell me about his labors for the good of the Fatherland. And I only told you.
              But I heard something about Alexander II. Although this is not "my topic".
              On the thread - "Chinese theme" so I will be brief.
              It was he who, with his stupid, cowardly, ill-conceived reform of serfdom, split the entire Russian society so much that it could not recover. It was he who awakened the monster of "revolutionary terror" in Russia. He is the creator of the Russian tragedy of the late XNUMXth - early XNUMXth centuries.
              It is a pity that the "monarchists" do not remember this.
            3. Vitaly72
              Vitaly72 14 July 2016 02: 59
              0
              1991 and many current troubles, they are all from March 1953!
        2. stas
          stas 13 July 2016 17: 06
          +1
          Watery, and where are the people in your paradigm of ideas.
          There are no people, but an army. The kings did not count people for people.
          First the people, and only then the army and navy.

          Stop throwing slogans, otherwise you’ll receive money from the people.
          1. water
            water 13 July 2016 20: 26
            +3
            My friends! Separating the Army and Navy from the people and its economy is utter stupidity! All the rulers who tried to do this ended badly. After all, the economy is the economic activity of the people, and the Army and Navy, along with health care, education, etc. - the fruits of this economic activity.
            Quote: stoker


            Yeah. Recall 1905 year. Or 1917 year. Well, and in fairness, 1991 year.
            The state has only one ally - the people. And only one real pillar is economics.
            And the one who said about the army and navy, indeed, had no other allies. He doesn’t care about the Russian people, but he never heard about the economy. Therefore, he and his descendants brought Russia in 1917 year.

            Indeed, both in 1905, and in February, 1917, and in 1991, the Army and Fleet of Russia (USSR) were the first to be brought into a non-operational state. And only then the idea preached by foreign and domestic capitalists and paid by various intelligentsia and employees covered the masses of the people, and, it began ... It’s hard not to notice !?

            Consequently, if the Army and Navy are strong - the people are strong, the state is strongly established by it. And the Chinese in the Far East only as tourists and on business visas.
      2. User
        User 13 July 2016 12: 24
        +11
        Your reasons are clear and I completely agree with you that this is not very good. But there is one big BUT.

        Quote: Amurets
        This will put a case law on non-enforcement of international treaties.

        Tell this to the US government, they will laugh heartily.

        There are two points:
        1. All "international" organizations are to some extent controlled by the United States.
        2. It is impossible to fulfill the terms of the contract if no one else does it. Here is the Russian Federation, to my mind, conducts honest activities in the international arena, which is great, but NATO countries do not do that. This ties the hands of the Russian government quite strongly.

        PS It’s good to live by the law, if everyone abides by it. And to live with wolves - howl like a wolf.
      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 13 July 2016 12: 45
        -1
        Quote: Amurets
        then you will say if, in exactly the same way, the PRC will put a part or instrument on all our contracts with parting?

        Chinas are not fools, therefore this will not happen.
        Quote: Amurets
        And chop off a piece of the Far East, according to the Treaty of Nerchinsk in 1689.

        wassat
      4. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 13 July 2016 20: 04
        0
        Quote: Amurets
        What will you say if, in the same way, the PRC puts a part or instrument in the middle of all our agreements?


        Ek you are carried away by devices. If China puts on our treaties, we will think about what to put to us. So far, China has relied on a court decision that is clearly politicized and in the interests of the United States and, moreover, of rather recommendatory value.
    2. Monarchist
      Monarchist 13 July 2016 15: 48
      0
      Field Marshal, I have a small rank to scold you, and therefore I simply refer to the message of SW.Istopnik, look above or read the UN Charter
  3. avva2012
    avva2012 13 July 2016 11: 55
    +2
    With a cry of yaa, a kick of the legs, the Hague ... and drained into boots.
  4. Magic archer
    Magic archer 13 July 2016 11: 55
    +10
    Who is stronger and right! Beijing once again shows who dominates in this region and does not care about all these pro-American corrupt Hague! Resentment and anger gnaws for the Serb brothers, whom this deceitful Hague "tried" to do! still free !!!
    1. Aviagr
      Aviagr 13 July 2016 12: 53
      +3
      China has not yet managed to organize a worthy defense of these islands - they are too far from the mainland, and the Yankees will not wait for the Chinese to gain strength - now they are nothing more than a paper dragon at sea (on land - yes, they are strong): to sink 30 ships and 20 submarines do not need a lot of people (in Ohio in the next news, how many Tomahawks? And they say - Filipinos threw logs ..).
      And we don’t have anything to help them in the Far East, and ours won’t harness — China behaved before like a monkey sitting on a tree - so he wanted to get down and collect a couple of acorns - he’ll immediately get piz-lei (in rhyme!) - and back on the tree ...
  5. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 13 July 2016 12: 04
    +4
    To the greats, then it is possible to capture foreign islands (Malvinas), and the rest should look into the mouth of the Hague court and blindly obey?
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 13 July 2016 16: 21
      +1
      As I recall, the Falkland or Malvinas Islands were part of the British Empire (as they entered, another question), and Argentina tried to snatch and got into a rhyme.
  6. aszzz888
    aszzz888 13 July 2016 12: 06
    +2
    In response, the Chinese said the Hague’s decision was not a decree for them,

    And they did it right! The Hague - these are the same mericatos and Co.!
  7. Machete
    Machete 13 July 2016 12: 12
    +1
    It would be foolish to think that the Chinese would agree with such a decision.
  8. V.ic
    V.ic 13 July 2016 12: 15
    0
    Indonesia was once a Dutch colony, so it began to swirl in the anus near The Hague. And what about the decision of the Hague court, the Indonesians will first increase the population FOUR times, then start barking.
  9. avva2012
    avva2012 13 July 2016 12: 15
    +5
    At the same time, China quite definitely interprets the UN Convention on Shipping: in his opinion, the free movement of foreign navies in the 200 mile zone is impossible. However, Beijing is not alone in this regard, because Brazil and a number of countries adhere to the same interpretation. But the USA fiercely denies it, because such an approach closes the possibility for their fleet to move freely between the Indian and Pacific Ocean in a straight line, forcing to "make a detour" already through Australia.
    Given the U.S. stakes on its total maritime dominance around the world, it is not surprising that they react extremely painfully to China’s attempt to crush their favorite corn and put a legal barrier to the unhindered movement of American fleets around the world, as Washington wants. The main thing is that such an outcome of this dispute will fundamentally weaken US pressure on China, which, in conscience, can soon be called a naval blockade. It is not surprising that the Celestial Empire is taking such adventurous and uncharacteristic steps for it: desperate times require desperate measures.
    China’s future intentions are easily predictable: it is planned to build an airfield or naval base there, which will allow for effective control of a wide area where before the United States sailed unhindered, projecting its strength and creating tension points in the right corners of the planet, in accordance with the requirements of the pressure policy on China.
    View in full: http://politrussia.com/world/kitay-ne-dayet-231/
    1. Aviagr
      Aviagr 13 July 2016 12: 41
      -1
      Horseradish there, not airfields: with such a distance from the mainland and its air defense, the stretched convoys of ships and aircraft are easy prey for AWACS, Tomahawks, submarines and other vultures. China is living out its last months in prosperity: the islands will be taken away from it, while destroying the fleet and part of the aircraft, then the coastal and disputed (with Japan) islands will be taken away - to the administration of Taiwan and Japan, i.e. China will block access to the sea at all. And unsatisfied ambitions will be sent .. to the North — the land army of China is large, no one is going to fight with it, but here it is ... The Chinese rulers will need to smooth out the defeatist mood for the people (at the same time decreasing it in a mess). Well, our economy kirdykso do not rush to rejoice ...
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 13 July 2016 14: 14
        +1
        Quote: Aviagr
        Well, our economy kirdyk,

        Shaw, is oil running out or gas running out? Kirdyk will be the oligarchs, if they are not unfastened for "helping children".
        1. Aviagr
          Aviagr 13 July 2016 14: 54
          0
          The oligarchs and those who joined them - all the money is already abroad (both children and real estate), and Gaddafi and Saddam also had oil and gas - where are they now? Moreover, after the "fall" of China, its largest consumer, oil will cost 5d / b.
          And the oligarchs, and now it’s not painful, unfasten the children .. if not their own ...
      2. avva2012
        avva2012 13 July 2016 16: 30
        0
        Avaks, tomahawks, kidding me? Clinton, though frostbitten, will not do this. China is not Iraq. In addition, to us, after strangling China, kirdyk. This and the iPhone understands, I think.
      3. Monarchist
        Monarchist 13 July 2016 16: 34
        0
        Junior Sergeant, do you think they don't think anything in Beijing at all? BB "the roof has gone" and in general everything is critical, and Aviagr alone knows everything. You are severely reprimanded so that they do not grind nonsense
        1. Aviagr
          Aviagr 13 July 2016 18: 34
          +3
          Quote: avva2012
          Avaks, tomahawks, kidding me?

          AWACS gives only target designation, Tomahawks, Onyxes, Klaba, torpedoes ... - can be anyone's: like "Voentorg" sent, ie in a deserted ocean to prove who exactly fired a particular weapon - impossible! As soon as the Chinese (fleet and aircraft) depart from the coast at 200-300km - they are targets and drowned. Nobody will look for them at the bottom, like the Malaysian Boeing.
          Quote: Monarchist
          don't they think anything at all in Beijing?

          And Napoleon thought, and Hitler made a good plan - not always everything goes according to you the planned plan, and even the pin-syes are able to profit from any shit: that with Afghanistan, that with Syria and Iraq, that with others. They are just the courts and the UNs - not a decree.
          And the Chinese - yes, stupid, the Japanese and they conquered them, but here in general there won’t be any war (land) - only indicative flogging with the destruction of the fleet and part of the aircraft. Below I have already described the consequences of these events - alas, for us they are even more sad.
          1. Mikhail Krapivin
            Mikhail Krapivin 13 July 2016 19: 01
            0
            Quote: Aviagr
            And the Chinese - yes, stupid.


            Hmmm ... The measure of a state’s success is its economy. The Chinese economy has officially become the first economy in the world. Can the people who created the first economy of the world be called dumb? Hmmm ...
            1. Aviagr
              Aviagr 14 July 2016 07: 06
              +1
              I think smart people who are not only earnedbut saved. Neither Iraq, nor Libya, nor Syria can boast of this. Let's see what will happen to China - I'm not very sure that he will keep the islands, although I wish him that ...
            2. Dulat
              Dulat 15 July 2016 02: 10
              0
              The measure of success in my opinion is the well-being of the citizens of this country
  10. Engineer
    Engineer 13 July 2016 12: 20
    +1
    The Chinese are certainly well done, as many here write, just what do you say if they claim rights to part of our territory, say Primorsky Krai, which was part of the Jin Empire?
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 13 July 2016 14: 09
      0
      Quote: Engineer
      will you just say if they claim rights to part of our territory, say Primorsky Krai, which was part of the Jin Empire?

      Primorsky Krai:
      Russian = 2016-1858 = 158 years;
      Qin = 1858-1644 = 214 years.
      Figures of the same order, comparable in historical terms. Therefore, I would say to narrow-eyed and yellow-faced comrades: Harya crack! So you can them and pass on!
    2. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 13 July 2016 19: 04
      +1
      Quote: Engineer
      The Chinese are certainly well done, as many here write, just what do you say if they claim rights to part of our territory, say Primorsky Krai?


      That's how they say, and we will worry. Why worry until you have announced? Many countries in Russia can make territorial claims, very many, well, because of them all worry?
  11. Delink
    Delink 13 July 2016 12: 21
    +3
    If now the Chinese take their toll, then the Americans will fall in the face of the whole world, including the partners of the EU, Canada, Australia.
  12. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 13 July 2016 12: 25
    +1
    Judging by the map, no one is particularly shy about their requirements, but of course China is absolutely in the lead. Audacity second happiness.)
  13. Aviagr
    Aviagr 13 July 2016 12: 31
    +4
    Taking into account the latest decisions of the Hague pseudo-court, the pins have a "legal" reason to "squeeze" the Spratly / Nansha Islands by the hands of the Philippines / Vietnam / Papua New_Guinea (and we are for it ?!).
    How many times he wrote that the sunk Chinese ships and submarines, downed planes will never know who actually destroyed them (well, like the American LiSiTsin), but China will not have an official justification for an attack on the United States, just as we did not have the Kursk during the sinking "and other points. They will also have to fight virtual barmaley in the form of Vietnamese-Filipino fishermen and Brunei submarine cavalry. Yes, and they have nothing special to shoot in America, knowing that in response they will fly in a thousand more times - they can forget about China forever.
    Therefore, the deployment of interceptor missiles in South Korea is not against the North, namely according to the above plan (suddenly someone will press a button in the Middle Kingdom ...). Plus, as already mentioned, the United States will have a reason to "forgive" its debt by writing it off to China (this will further strengthen the green candy wrapper), and the destruction of a large consumer of hydrocarbons will drop oil and gas prices to zero - again we and Iran are on our knees ( well, Latin America with the Middle East and North Africa in a trailer).
    Poor Middle Asia and Kazakhstan will simply be sprinkled with weapons ("Kalash" - after all, they opened factories there for what ?!) from the B-52 - and all this horde will rush to more prosperous regions ... no, they have to go to Europe several others country...
    Controlled chaos, destruction of rivals by obscurant neighbors, sucking resources from both by supplying weapons and "consultants" —that is the whole current policy of imperialism.
    And what about ours? - It has already been said: We are in Courchevel with your money, and you stay there!
    And after all, again, like EVERY hundred years - again we will hold on, perish, restrain the hordes from further advancing to the West or to the East ... And so for three thousand years from United Russia from England to Japan, they bite off pieces, create enmity, revel in our blood ... the treacherous rulers imposed on us by themselves - that very "golden" billion ...
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 13 July 2016 18: 48
      +1
      It's like that. So let's see how China will cope with this challenge, and maybe learn something.
  14. pavelty
    pavelty 13 July 2016 12: 38
    +3
    Everything is normal, but China, if necessary, can break it. The admiral said "does not care", so it is)
    1. Aviagr
      Aviagr 13 July 2016 12: 45
      0
      Quote: pavlentiy
      China, if necessary, can break it

      To whom and by what? Only Vietnam and even 50 / 50 ...
      Once again, FOR THE BLUNDS: the States themselves, as if they would not participate in the conflict - as in Syria - these are "barmaley", we just dropped our weapons in the wrong place ...
    2. grau
      grau 13 July 2016 20: 02
      0
      And the United States will economically strangle China and that’s all.
  15. Xmyp
    Xmyp 13 July 2016 13: 02
    +2
    Quote: watermark
    In order for our Far East to always be ours, the Russian state should have only two strong allies - the Army and the Navy! Not foreign states, not domesticated oligarchs, not liberals, not entrepreneurs. Army and Navy!

    The main thing here should be
  16. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 13 July 2016 13: 04
    +7
    I think in China, too, there is .. MYTISCHINSKY COURT.
  17. Prager
    Prager 13 July 2016 13: 32
    +1
    Well done Chinese, respect. that's who you need to take an example from and who learn to live and defend national interests.
  18. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 13 July 2016 13: 57
    +2
    The current situation shows the design flaw: USA - nobody.

    The construction was more viable: USA - USSR. The USSR could not be friends with China, however, it could well support him in spite of the evil Ameros.

    Now only designs are viable: USA - Russia - China - ... (someone else). Or: NATO - the SCO (when giving it military functions) - ... (another military alliance).

    While this is not the case, all international conventions are completely rotten; drawbar, which they turn wherever they want, the Americans.
  19. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 13 July 2016 14: 23
    +1
    What China put on the fucking Hague - did the right thing. But if you look at the map, Vietnam and Indonesia are much closer to the islands than China. Politics and geography contradict each other.
  20. den3080
    den3080 13 July 2016 14: 32
    +2
    Listen up. Yes, everyone has long been put on the Hague and the UN. Those who have the strength and capabilities, he declares this directly and calmly (USA, China, Russia, Britain, France - all members of the UN Security Council). And who does not - sabotage quietly.
  21. Doppelgänger
    Doppelgänger 13 July 2016 18: 31
    -1
    We would like to learn from China, and not listen to the screams of all kinds of "liberals" (what has to do with our own country)
  22. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 13 July 2016 18: 45
    0
    Quote: Aleksander
    Well done chinese

    But the insolents, judging by the map, to the neighbors whose shores this sea washes, generally did not leave ANYTHING ....


    And this is the homespun truth. Russia thinks too much about others and nothing good came of it. And the United States does not think about others at all, only about itself, loved ones, and they are in full chocolate. So China did not come up with anything new, as usual, it uses the most effective methods of others.
  23. grau
    grau 13 July 2016 19: 55
    0
    Quote: avva2012
    Avaks, tomahawks, kidding me? Clinton, though frostbitten, will not do this. China is not Iraq. In addition, to us, after strangling China, kirdyk. This and the iPhone understands, I think.


    And do not invade and the anti-Chinese coalition to collect and act as they acted with the USSR
  24. Garris199
    Garris199 13 July 2016 21: 05
    0
    Thus, the convention does not recognize the exceptional ones in general, and neighboring states organize periodically joint exercises with the US Navy. It is clear that China does not like this, and since negotiations with its neighbors did not have the desired effect, China decided to take control of the water area. If the neighbors come out from under the boot of the Americans, then normally everything will be divided among themselves.
  25. Yves762
    Yves762 13 July 2016 21: 17
    0
    This is all good ...
    But.
    I am confused by the feeling that the bright, in theory, idea of ​​the MP’s leadership in resolving contentious issues descends, once again, into the toilet.
    And not far from the war. Slightly hotter than cold. Then at least some authorities in the form of superpowers existed. Everyone will be right there for himself. Civil war on a planetary scale.