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The Verkhovna Rada adopted a law on the genetic identification of "surgical waste"

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In Ukraine, the DNA base of servicemen will soon begin to form. Deputies of the Verkhovna Rada (253 votes with 226 required) voted for this decision today. Article 11-1 “Guarantees of the identification of the soldier’s identity” appears in the law “On the social and legal protection of servicemen and their families”. It is reported by the news agency UNIAN.

At the moment, it is said that the biomaterials with DNA samples from the servicemen will be taken by agreement of the servicemen themselves. As noted, this will allow the identification of a soldier using the method of searching for genetic compliance.

The Verkhovna Rada adopted a law on the genetic identification of "surgical waste"


The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine declares that the use of the method of genetic identification will be carried out with the following cases: receiving injuries that do not allow to recognize the identity of the soldier; death of a soldier with the inability to identify a soldier by "ordinary" methods.

Obviously, this bill appeared in Ukraine for a reason. The law is clearly related to the fact that in official reports of Ukrainian military leaders there are often reports of "no losses" with the simultaneous appearance of new graves with "surgical waste" in cemeteries.

At the same time, in Kiev, they are not talking about how much the genetic identification of even those soldiers whose remains still lie in dozens of Ukrainian morgues across the country — from Dnepropetrovsk to Lviv — can wait for Ukraine and wait for the day of their burial.
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  1. tiredwithall
    tiredwithall 12 July 2016 16: 00
    +1
    The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine declares that the use of the method of genetic identification will be carried out with the following cases: receiving injuries that do not allow to recognize the identity of the soldier; death of a soldier with the inability to identify a soldier by "ordinary" methods.


    Well, maybe they’ll figure it out with the deceased, if they don’t steal here too.
    1. Chertkov Oleg
      Chertkov Oleg 12 July 2016 16: 03
      +3
      Well, maybe even deal with the dead
      Bye, but not in zhist. He drives away the mess in the mess and the mess. It is not profitable for the "pig" to resurrect these "waste"
      1. cniza
        cniza 12 July 2016 16: 12
        +6
        At the same time, in Kiev, they are not talking about how much the genetic identification of even those soldiers whose remains still lie in dozens of Ukrainian morgues across the country — from Dnepropetrovsk to Lviv — can wait for Ukraine and wait for the day of their burial.



        They will say no money and bury as surgical waste.
        1. umah
          umah 12 July 2016 16: 28
          +6
          Another reason forgotten. When donating blood, it will be convenient to conduct an analysis before being allowed to go to organs.

          I have already read articles several times about the fact that people are being taken apart for organs in the ATO zone. Maybe this is how these "surgical waste" appear?
          1. iliitchitch
            iliitchitch 12 July 2016 21: 41
            0
            Quote: umah
            Another reason forgotten. When donating blood, it will be convenient to conduct an analysis before being allowed to go to organs.

            I have already read articles several times about the fact that people are being taken apart for organs in the ATO zone. Maybe this is how these "surgical waste" appear?


            But this is well noticed. As in Yugoslavia - muddy water, muddy "Aesculapians", complete lack of control in the medical battalion, and "spare parts" are in the price, this is not some "Toyota" for you. And no responsibility for what you have done. What is the solution?
            Yes, NO at the moment. Do not interfere, no matter how cruel. As long as these Ukrainians themselves do not come off the heaps of rubble, let everything go as it goes. No Khaz, no loans and no deferrals. We are there by the ears just being pulled to the war, no need to climb. Let them get drunk with their stupidity, nezalezhnosti do not indulge in the most, then we'll talk with freeloaders. Not with the brothers anymore (unfortunately, we were mistaken for many years).
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      3. vovanpain
        vovanpain 12 July 2016 17: 26
        +8
        Quote: Oleg Chertkov
        A mess in a mess and a mess drives away

        There is already a schiz request “Crimean Tatar activists developed and published a code of conduct for Crimean Tatars living in occupied Crimea during the temporary occupation of the Ukrainian peninsula by Russian troops,” Ukrainian media wrote. “I’m talking quietly with myself” - these are not only words from a popular song, but also signs of mental distress. "When a person is talking to himself, not expecting an answer, then this may be an early symptom of schizophrenia." If this is indeed the case, then the “Crimean Tatar inmates” Dzhemilev, Chubarov and especially Islyamov have a direct road to a psychiatrist. “... Asker (soldiers) from Chongar sent a“ Code of Crimean Crimean Tatars Code of Conduct ”in balloons to the annexed Crimea on Friday.” fool I understand that we are talking about the soldiers who are part of the Crimean Tatar battalion. Only in conditions of social isolation and idleness, documents that are absolutely inadequate to reality can appear. Therefore, I will simply quote a few points from the document. "1. Do not hold any posts in the so-called "state authorities" of the Russian Federation in the territory of Crimea.
        2. Not to join any organizations authorized by the occupying "authorities", including the organization of collaborators from among the Crimean Tatars.
        3. Not to participate in any events organized and authorized by the occupation authorities, including the so-called “holidays”, organized for the Russian propaganda to demonstrate the “loyalty” of the Crimean Tatars to the invaders.
        4. Not to accept from the hands of the occupiers the illegally awarded “ranks” and “awards”.
        8. Not to participate in the performance of hymns, in ceremonies of “veneration” of other symbols of the occupation “authority”.
        9. Not to supply the army and militarized structures of the occupiers with any products (goods).
        14. Wherever possible, speak the native language, use the native language to communicate with each other, teach children the Crimean Tatar language.
        15. To promote the education of children in secondary and higher institutions in the territory of continental Ukraine.
        16. By all means avoiding the "conscription" of Crimean Tatars into the army of the invaders, helping to transport young people of conscription age to the territory of mainland Ukraine in order to serve them in the Ukrainian army, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and the Crimean Tatar volunteer battalion created in the Kherson region. "
        It seems that the authors of the "code" were brought from the Crimean Tatar Mars. If Ukrainians created Canada, then why not declare Mars Crimean Tatar. It is in the style of Dzhemilev and Chubarov. "Code" in its essence is one continuous provocation and setup. Good or bad laws of Russia, but these are the laws of Russia. Crimean Tatars, like someone or not, are Russian citizens. And substituting with their "code" for the criminal prosecution of the Crimean Tatars is the height of meanness and Pharisaism. With this attitude towards their compatriots, it’s more likely that “apple trees will bloom on Mars” than Crimea will ever cease to be Russian
    2. hirurg
      hirurg 12 July 2016 16: 14
      +5
      That's just steal.
      Genetic material should be taken ONLY from single individuals with no relatives.
      When in doubt about the identification, material is being collected from relatives, 99% coincidence (this does not hurt)
      And so - it’s all over, just like a cut.
      Because, research is very expensive.
      And to take fingerprints, at worst, is not fate?
      At least we used to give our fingers away.
      1. mad
        mad 12 July 2016 16: 49
        0
        Quote: hirurg

        And so - it’s all over, just like a cut.
        ...
        And to take fingerprints, at worst, is not fate?

        It really is cut, but different. You can’t trace the chronic and genetic diseases on the fingers, and in the wholesale trade of organs this is important!
        1. hirurg
          hirurg 12 July 2016 16: 56
          +1
          You, I think, are going too far.
          Or according to analysis, but on order ??? Yes, from the battlefield, from the mud, without a container with .... UNREAL.
          The game will not cost the game.
          Now, if in fact, so here also genetic compatibility is a plus, and not cheap!
          1. Khariton
            Khariton 12 July 2016 17: 12
            -3
            They will sell the land, then they will take up the organs ... Clever, are they preparing the soil? Slavic blood has always been valued in the west and in Asia ... Ah Ukraine ..!
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 12 July 2016 20: 43
        0
        Quote: hirurg
        That's just steal.

        The most complete and accurate DNA examination now costs about $ 150. Now, according to some sources, about 280 thousand are served in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
        It’s easy to calculate what kind of money some businessmen will scroll, I won’t be surprised if all the servicemen go through one laboratory and belong to Groisman or Waltzman
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 12 July 2016 21: 07
      -1
      This whole idea smacks of another dough cut. There is a mountain of corpses and human body fragments. The task is to establish their belonging to a specific person with the help of genetic examination. There are two main options. The first, if the deceased has a tattoo with his genetic code, which has not yet been applied anywhere. And the second is a comparison of his GC with the GC of his close relatives. But the trouble is, how to connect one to the other? Is it stupid to carry out thousands of examinations and create something like a "genoteca" and wait for statements from relatives about the missing? And were they all or are they? Wives and girlfriends do not count (they have different genes). Then the relatives-applicants of the disappeared will be many times more dead. Who will pay for expensive examinations? And it is not a fact that they will coincide with someone from those lying in the morgue. BUT in positive cases, Ukraine must pay the family a certain allowance. Does she need it? Wouldn't it be easier to start carrying out an elementary identification of the victims by relatives? Then the whole Outskirts can find out the real combat losses, which, again, Kuev does not need.
  2. carabiner sks
    carabiner sks 12 July 2016 16: 02
    +2
    Actually, a good idea for the Armed Forces. Interestingly, do we have such a system? Maybe someone knows?
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 12 July 2016 16: 08
      0
      We do not have it, but you can sew new chevrons for dill - "surgical waste", since their "dill" went off with a bang.
    2. Batia
      Batia 12 July 2016 16: 51
      0
      We handed over fingers. It looks like another cut preparation. Pretty expensive event. Take into account the mobile reserve, it goes to very large volumes.
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 12 July 2016 21: 13
      -1
      Make a tattoo with the number and series of your passport in a few meta, but better try to stay alive. laughing Everything has been invented for a long time.
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 12 July 2016 23: 35
        0
        Fingers, tests, and a simple token on the neck has already been forgotten. It is clear that in war there are times when it is impossible to identify a body, but there are not so many of them, and a metal token is not weak human flesh. I would understand that when ventures with DNA begin, for example, in the USA, they will print money, but in Ukraine, where there are none at all and is not expected, insanity. Of course, they can still beg from the West for such a "good deed", then just cut. And the West already perfectly understands the whole essence of the ukropatriots. Of course they will give them to the war, but they will not finance such "projects". From their point of view, why identify any savages, this is just meat in the war with Russia.
  3. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 12 July 2016 16: 05
    +2
    One hundred pounds for all Ukrainian warriors will be one common genotype! wassat they’ll kill a hundred, and according to the results of DNA analysis, they will establish that Two bald mycols died, yes Nikolai Lysykh !!! wassat
    1. gg.na
      gg.na 12 July 2016 16: 36
      0
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      they’ll kill a hundred, and according to the results of DNA analysis, they will establish that Two bald mycols died, yes Nikolai Lysykh !!!

      In!!! You wrote it right good !!! So it will be damn yes !!!
  4. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 12 July 2016 16: 07
    -1
    And in the cemetery, the genetic remnants are urgently renamed kinetic sediments! fool
  5. izya top
    izya top 12 July 2016 16: 12
    +2
    and analyzes are necessary, analyzes ... all of a sudden a draftee doesn’t need an atom, but to Europe ... in parts ... for a rich burgher
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 12 July 2016 16: 22
      -1
      As an option. The base will be ready for compatibility testing.
  6. black
    black 12 July 2016 16: 23
    +1
    What a care. Well, I even burst into tears of emotion.
  7. Oleg Lavrov
    Oleg Lavrov 12 July 2016 16: 26
    +1
    For a long time they will have to rake it out of the APU, buried under such a "nickname" !!
  8. gg.na
    gg.na 12 July 2016 16: 34
    +1
    Well, what's the point is that they adopted a kind of law! Well, they’ll take a part or whatever and ultimately the examination will show how it will be necessary for someone from the top. Either positive or negative (and to hide, let's say the same battle losses, there will be mostly a negative result by 80% -85%! That's all there is to it!
  9. Altona
    Altona 12 July 2016 16: 41
    0
    Probably they will take money for the procedure for taking the analysis. It seems like an expensive DNA identification.
  10. Naval
    Naval 12 July 2016 16: 43
    -1
    Are they creating a spare parts catalog? And what? It’s convenient how transplantation lines have advanced in Europe. Ukraine tse Europe, in kind! wassat
  11. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 12 July 2016 16: 46
    +1
    I can not understand the logic of the ukrovenny. Examination cost about 200 $. A medallion or bracelet plus fingerprints of 2-3 bucks in total - conclusion: grandmothers for cutting.
  12. 2s1122
    2s1122 12 July 2016 16: 54
    0
    And for me, the LIARS so in this way want to clarify whether the object is suitable for organs or not. Although this procedure is very expensive, well, the organs cost a lot.
  13. Bramb
    Bramb 12 July 2016 17: 10
    +1
    Genetic identification is quite expensive. Hundreds of dollars. With a normal economy, this is possible, but here, most likely, it will be like this: an analysis for thousands of dollars will be "done" on paper, no coincidences will be found, waste will be written into the losses of separatists, and money will go into the pocket. Peremoga!
  14. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 12 July 2016 17: 22
    0
    Nu-nu ... if you take into account how much dna testing costs (on average somewhere around 25 tr ... this is on average - I saw a price of 68 tr) - then the largest army in Europe will go bankrupt ... tongue
    1. AID.S
      AID.S 12 July 2016 18: 57
      0
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      Nu-nu ... if you take into account how much dna testing costs (on average somewhere around 25 tr ... this is on average - I saw a price of 68 tr) - then the largest army in Europe will go bankrupt ...

      So relatives will pay ..
  15. Observer2014
    Observer2014 12 July 2016 17: 24
    +3
    At the moment, it is said that the biomaterials with DNA samples from the servicemen will be taken by agreement of the servicemen themselves. As noted, this will allow the identification of a soldier using the method of searching for genetic compliance.
    And they will also select a "donor". Biomaterials are awaiting in the best clinics in Israel and Western Europe. Whoever wants to emigrate for spare parts bullyDo not waste good repeat
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 12 July 2016 17: 31
      0
      Yes, some kind of nonsense ... half an army of drunks and nariks. Who will spend such money on them? Well, they’ll do 100 tests to show off the pieces and that’s all ... in the end it’s like in a rhyme -

      "Hello mom, I'm not all back,
      Here is my leg, you hang it on the door "
      1. kotvov
        kotvov 12 July 2016 18: 19
        -1
        .pol- army of drunks and nariks. Who will spend such money on them? ,,
        and for this, expertise will be separated, so to speak, washed from unwashed.
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  16. Mykl
    Mykl 12 July 2016 19: 16
    0
    Yes, they collect the DNA base. to then scientifically prove Svidomo.
  17. Shilochnik
    Shilochnik 12 July 2016 20: 44
    +1
    Quote: tiredwithall
    The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine declares that the use of the method of genetic identification will be carried out with the following cases: receiving injuries that do not allow to recognize the identity of the soldier; death of a soldier with the inability to identify a soldier by "ordinary" methods.


    Well, maybe they’ll figure it out with the deceased, if they don’t steal here too.


    People need to be identified and buried in a human way. And give information to relatives. Sealed unmarked zinc is much worse.
  18. sgr291158
    sgr291158 13 July 2016 05: 34
    0
    Let them form the base, they will soon need it when they begin to crumble.