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The media sounded options for the operation of retaliation of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation against the Syrian militants who shot down a helicopter with a Russian crew

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Information leaked to the press that Russia is preparing a response to the actions of the militants in Syria, who recently shot down a Mi-35 helicopter (an export version of the Mi-24) with a Russian crew. According to the newspaper Kommersant an act of retaliation can be both an increase in the number of sorties of Russian aircraft from the air base in Latakia (Khmeimim), and the use of aircraft against terrorists based on the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier.

When it comes to the Russian aircraft carrier, deck aircraft may be used against militants aviation Su-33 and MiG-29 / KUB, as well as helicopters Ka-52K, Ka-27 and Ka-31. Recall that the aircraft carrier is capable of carrying 15 fighters and about a dozen helicopters of the above types on board.

It is noted that “Retribution” is not just a term for wit, but the real name of the operation in Syria, which is being prepared at the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. It is noted that in addition to the mentioned actions against the militants, Russia is ready to once again apply highly accurate weapon. First of all, we are talking about the Caliber cruise missiles, which have already shown their effectiveness in countering the ISIL (DAISH) and Dzhebhat al-Nusra militants.

Recall that last Friday in the area of ​​Palmyra, ISIS militants shot down a SAR air force helicopter with a Russian crew that disrupted the attack of terrorists on the positions of Syrian troops.



The crew of the Mi-35 (Colonel Ryafagat Khabibullin and Lieutenant Yevgeny Dolgin) died. Both pilots are presented to the state awards posthumously.
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  1. Yarik76
    Yarik76 11 July 2016 13: 10
    +61
    The positions of the barmalei in rubble! That will be their retribution for the very beard!
    1. Bath
      Bath 11 July 2016 13: 17
      +25
      That mi 25, then mi 35 now Syrian is already ours here zhurnalyugi
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 11 July 2016 13: 24
        +7
        Quote: Bath
        That mi 25, then mi 35 now Syrian is already ours here zhurnalyugi

        Everywhere Mi-25. And he is Syrian because in the Russian army, if I think correctly, there are no such helicopters. For it is an export modification of the Mi-24. What is the problem? And the Mi-35 is also an export modification of one of the modifications of the Mi-24.
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 11 July 2016 13: 33
          +104
          retaliation is nonsense.

          This is war. As before and after retaliation - ours will iron the barmalei, the barmalei will want to kill ours

          Or after retaliation, the barmalei should see our planes talking about their planes, no, well, it’s not the Russians who shoot them, but it will be retaliation.

          Brad is the same.

          It is necessary to kill them systematically and permanently, and not to make a demonstrative flogging of the shares.

          1. weksha50
            weksha50 11 July 2016 13: 51
            +8
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            We must kill them systematically and constantly, and not make a show of flogging stocks.



            And the more effective (i.e. more), the less there will be cases of death of our equipment and people ...
            1. Mahmut
              Mahmut 13 July 2016 19: 18
              0
              A very muddy story with this helicopter. At first they denied that our pilots died. Then they admitted, our pilots, but claimed that the Syrian Air Force helicopter. Then they admitted that our VKS is also a helicopter. They claimed that the helicopter was shot down when they fired and flew empty. But the video shows that the explosion occurred during a helicopter attack and shooting at a target. MANPADS missiles are not visible, and they usually do not fall into the beam, but into the nozzles of the engine. Previously, many times they showed how to shoot from an ATGM. Rocket flight is visible even on a bright sunny day. Here, the rocket was not visible, even against the backdrop of a dark mountain, although the shooting of the helicopter itself was more than excellent. Lied, in short, finally, what retribution? Judging by the video, a slave helicopter shot down him by mistake, or due to a technical malfunction.
          2. jovanni
            jovanni 11 July 2016 14: 04
            +20
            "retribution is nonsense.
            This is war. As before and after retaliation - ours will iron the barmaley, the barmaley will want to kill ours "

            Right And if retaliation, then it should comprehend all those involved in the appearance of modern weapons in the enemy. Including overseas. And so - yes, nonsense ...
            1. Vladimir Ball.
              Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 12: 27
              +3
              ISIS - this is the unofficial army of US punitive. fight with them
            2. severbob
              severbob 12 July 2016 17: 24
              -3
              helicopter shot down killed pilots who died rewards command will sit on its backside then when it will be necessary to report to the Chief about another death there is no current punishment to peck the ground
          3. Alekseev
            Alekseev 11 July 2016 14: 43
            +19
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            We must kill them systematically and constantly, and not arrange out of stocks

            Absolutely accurate definition! good
            And about the retribution, the stupid ones came up with, some Admiral Kuznetsov, they say, will do retribution. fool
            He’s undergoing manning and combat training in the Barents Sea, and here he’s ...
          4. siberalt
            siberalt 11 July 2016 15: 38
            +1
            Do more and talk less. What can be the retaliation for retaliation in real hostilities? Or have we agreed with the enemy that only we will shoot? request If our MI-24 flew back after the bombing, then it should have been shot down from the territory, which should already be processed. Or isn’t it? Good. We don’t know much. But it seems that the Mi-24 flew to bomb alone or without cover. Maybe someone from the comrades has other information?
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 11 July 2016 17: 34
              +11
              Quote: siberalt
              But it seems that the Mi-24 flew alone to bomb

              There were two helicopters in the video.
              1. Dryuya2
                Dryuya2 11 July 2016 21: 11
                +2
                Quote: Stas157
                There were two helicopters in the video.

                read that there is a more complete video and there are 5 turntables
                2-35, 2-24 / 25, and one mi-8 - the video itself did not see request
            2. Bayonet
              Bayonet 12 July 2016 05: 43
              +2
              Quote: siberalt
              If our MI-24 flew back after the bombing,

              They wrote that it was a test flight, saw the battle and decided to help. Believe these scribblers, do not respect yourself. request
              1. Vladimir Ball.
                Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 12: 35
                +4
                US militants easily shot down MI-24 in Afghanistan, even more so now. It is time to liberate the USSR from the Russian Federation and buy 1000 KA-52nds into the army! TO KILL THEM ALMOST UNreal!
                1. You Vlad
                  You Vlad 12 July 2016 13: 00
                  0
                  Smiled unreal!
            3. Vladimir Ball.
              Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 12: 32
              -4
              it is obvious that ours are saving, since the RSFSR does not have money because of the colonial Central Bank of the Russian Federation, so each pilot would be given a KA-52, which is almost impossible to shoot down, and it's easy to catapult from it. WHILE the USSR is occupied by the substance "RF" - we will lose soldiers in the most primitive conditions
              1. Orionvit
                Orionvit 12 July 2016 16: 10
                +4
                US militants easily shot down MI-24 in Afghanistan, now even more so
                Well, what was easily shot down, did you get hot, did you shoot, was that easy? MI-24 constructively has tremendous survivability, in combination with an experienced crew (and in the war experience is gaining quickly), our helicopters made difficult prey. Until the spirits had stingers, the losses of our pilots were relatively small.
                so they would give every pilot a KA-52, which is almost impossible to shoot down, and catapulting out of it is as easy as shelling pears.
                As it is inconsistent, it is not realistic to shoot down, but please eject. Why then a catapult, if KA-52 is "fabulously unkillable"?
          5. kotvov
            kotvov 11 July 2016 17: 25
            +4
            retaliation is nonsense. ,,
            I directly gathered a press conference and told reporters. I support a complete nonsense.
          6. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 11 July 2016 20: 34
            +5
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            Brad is the same.

            It is necessary to kill them systematically and permanently, and not to make a demonstrative flogging of the shares.

            That's exactly what you need. Expectation of death is worse than death. And in case of uncertainty, it also grows overgrown with terrible details. Plus, it is possible for the Western "partners" to lucidly justify why we are kneading everyone.
            And, yes ... It is Russian who cannot be killed under any circumstances, for the earth will burn underfoot. The East requires a subtle psychological approach. And that, no matter how terrifying for many years to come, will turn camels into smiling pacifists.
            Do you not think that all the Arabs there want an unscheduled trip to the gurus?
          7. Vadim237
            Vadim237 11 July 2016 21: 17
            +5
            It would be even more effective if our Aerospace Forces did not stop ironing them for a day - otherwise the withdrawal of the main forces, then the "blurred truce" - hence the fruits - the militants restored their combat effectiveness, and we again stepped on the "Chechen rake for 96-99 years"
            1. Skifotavr
              Skifotavr 11 July 2016 22: 10
              +2
              Quote: Vadim237
              It would be even more effective if our Aerospace Forces did not stop ironing them for a day - otherwise the withdrawal of the main forces, then the "blurred truce" - hence the fruits - the militants restored their combat effectiveness, and we again stepped on the "Chechen rake for 96-99 years"

              Honestly, it is unlikely that they will be completely defeated anyway, because they are fueled by the Sunnis because of the long-standing inter-confessional confrontation between the Sunites and Shiites, which the terrorist organizations controlled by not savages have adopted. It is no accident that these organizations grow like mushrooms, but they act as a whole and judging by the quality of their action, this is more like the level of a superpower with all the ensuing consequences.
              1. Vladimir Ball.
                Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 12: 40
                +1
                comrade from the Ukrainian SSR, you are mistaken, they are fed from the General Staff of NATA - OF THEIR DIRECT SUPREME, and the war in Syria and in the Donbass is Nothing But the War of the USSR EMPIRE AGAINST the USA
              2. Vladimir Ball.
                Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 12: 42
                +1
                UNDERSTAND ALREADY! NATA IS THE USA AND ISIS, ISIS IS THE NAT AND USA
                1. You Vlad
                  You Vlad 12 July 2016 13: 12
                  +2
                  Yes, you don’t worry, everyone is in the know!
              3. Vladimir Ball.
                Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 12: 44
                0
                UNDERSTAND ALREADY! NATA IS THE USA AND ISIS, ISIS IS THE NAT AND THE USA!

                HOW ONLY THE USSR SHALL OFF THE ATLANTIC OCEAN FOR THE USA, THEN NATA STOPS EXISTING IN EUROPE, AND ISIS DOES NOT HAVE ANY MORE MONEY OR FOOD OR Fighters, all the militants scatter! MIRACLE!
              4. Orionvit
                Orionvit 12 July 2016 16: 14
                0
                It is no coincidence that these organizations grow like mushrooms
                These organizations do not grow, they are carefully grown, you know who. It’s just that nothing happens in this world, if something happens, then someone needs it.
            2. Vladimir Ball.
              Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 12: 38
              -4
              no problems! free the homeland of the USSR from the gang of the rf Kazakhstan Kazakhstan, and get the richest country in the world with 43 percent of world resources and again you can buy into the army with the latest KA-52 helicopter per soldier
          8. Skifotavr
            Skifotavr 11 July 2016 21: 56
            +5
            Quote: c-Petrov
            retaliation is nonsense.

            This is war. As before and after retaliation - ours will iron the barmalei, the barmalei will want to kill ours

            Or after retaliation, the barmalei should see our planes talking about their planes, no, well, it’s not the Russians who shoot them, but it will be retaliation.

            Brad is the same.

            It is necessary to kill them systematically and permanently, and not to make a demonstrative flogging of the shares.

            War is war, but retaliation against terrorists is not nonsense, but an effective measure, including a propaganda one. So that their euphoria would decrease, but we would not be so offended, even though the dead pilots could not be returned. In general, I have long been wondering why Russia does not use napalm against pseudo-Islamic terrorists - the result would be super-effective - because by their faith it is possible and necessary to die, but it is impossible to burn.
            1. Vladimir Ball.
              Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 12: 48
              0
              Comrade from the Ukrainian SSR, I answer, there is no Russia now, now the USSR is occupied by bandit groups of the Russian Federation, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Belarus. ALL THESE GANGS EXIST ONLY IN VIOLATION OF THEIR ILLEGAL CONSTITUTIONS! read my investigation of the so-called "Collapse of the USSR" http://vk.com/wall-78975488_17441
              1. You Vlad
                You Vlad 12 July 2016 13: 17
                +3
                If you prove in court the illegality of the dissolution of the USSR! And before that, as before China, ra-m!
                1. atalef
                  atalef 12 July 2016 13: 24
                  +1
                  Quote: You Vlad
                  If you prove in court the illegality of the dissolution of the USSR! And before that, as before China, ra-m!

                  well let's say proved And?
                  1. You Vlad
                    You Vlad 12 July 2016 14: 43
                    +1
                    Then everything will turn out as the comrade said! That is, legally they will all turn out to be gang groups! And we will find ourselves in the legal field to restore the territorial integrity of the state!
            2. You Vlad
              You Vlad 12 July 2016 14: 10
              0
              And the choir of world media like we are forbidden, not humane weapons ironing civilians of Syria! What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull!
              1. Skifotavr
                Skifotavr 13 July 2016 00: 58
                0
                Quote: you Vlad
                And the choir of world media like we are forbidden, not humane weapons ironing civilians of Syria! What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull!

                The deceitful chorus of some "world" media is already there. Now what? Lie under this Jupiter?
                1. You Vlad
                  You Vlad 13 July 2016 21: 00
                  0
                  Solve problems in the country before playing against the whole world.
          9. aiden
            aiden 11 July 2016 22: 07
            +5
            at the sight of our airplanes and helicopters, they should burrow into the ground and creep under themselves
            1. Vladimir Ball.
              Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 12: 50
              +1
              they do so, given that the USSR videoconferencing system employs microscopic resources from their potential in Syria
          10. Shuttle
            Shuttle 12 July 2016 10: 29
            +2
            Quote: c-Petrov
            retaliation is nonsense.
            ...

            It is necessary to kill them systematically and permanently, and not to make a demonstrative flogging of the shares.

            No, not nonsense. Yes, we must fight systematically and constantly. However, and demonstrative flogging is very effective on barmaley. Because it is the East.
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        3. Lightpower
          Lightpower 11 July 2016 13: 33
          +2
          It is Syrian because it was marked with the identification marks of Syria. And the fool understands that the Syrians no longer have helicopters or experienced pilots for so many years of war. And then suddenly the pilots of the Russian Federation sat down for the "Syrian" mi-35 (and this is mi-35, and not some mi-25).
          1. Muvka
            Muvka 11 July 2016 13: 49
            -3
            Quote: LightPower
            It is Syrian because it was marked with the identification marks of Syria. And the fool understands that the Syrians no longer have helicopters or experienced pilots for so many years of war. And then suddenly the pilots of the Russian Federation sat down for the "Syrian" mi-35 (and this is mi-35, and not some mi-25).

            What are the differences between 25 and 35?
            1. tomket
              tomket 11 July 2016 14: 19
              +6
              Quote: Muvka
              What are the differences between 25 and 35?

              Fixed gear, short wing, x-shaped tail rotor, these are visual differences.
              1. Muvka
                Muvka 11 July 2016 15: 07
                -2
                Quote: tomket
                Quote: Muvka
                What are the differences between 25 and 35?

                Fixed gear, short wing, x-shaped tail rotor, these are visual differences.

                Mi-24VM - modernization of the Mi-24V / P / VP. Fixed gear, screws from Mi-28A (X-shaped tail rotor),
                Mi-35 is an export version of the Mi-24V.
                Mi-25 is an export version of Mi-24D.
                And which helicopter does not retract the landing gear? It’s just that it seems that these differences are with VMs. But the VM has no export modification.
                1. Ze Kot
                  Ze Kot 11 July 2016 15: 17
                  +3
                  Quote: Muvka
                  And which helicopter does not retract the landing gear?



                  At the 35th.
                  1. Muvka
                    Muvka 11 July 2016 15: 38
                    -2
                    Quote: The Cat
                    Quote: Muvka
                    And which helicopter does not retract the landing gear?



                    At the 35th.

                    Well, sort of like the Mi-35M. But not the Mi-35.
                    1. Ze Kot
                      Ze Kot 11 July 2016 16: 20
                      +2
                      Quote: Muvka
                      Quote: The Cat
                      Quote: Muvka
                      And which helicopter does not retract the landing gear?



                      At the 35th.

                      Well, sort of like the Mi-35M. But not the Mi-35.


                      In Russia, everything is "M".
                      1. Muvka
                        Muvka 11 July 2016 16: 46
                        -5
                        Quote: The Cat
                        Quote: Muvka
                        Quote: The Cat
                        Quote: Muvka
                        And which helicopter does not retract the landing gear?



                        At the 35th.

                        Well, sort of like the Mi-35M. But not the Mi-35.


                        In Russia, everything is "M".

                        In Russia there is no Mi-35. Neither with M nor without M.
                2. Skifotavr
                  Skifotavr 11 July 2016 22: 00
                  +3
                  Quote: Muvka
                  Quote: tomket
                  Quote: Muvka
                  What are the differences between 25 and 35?

                  Fixed gear, short wing, x-shaped tail rotor, these are visual differences.

                  Mi-24VM - modernization of the Mi-24V / P / VP. Fixed gear, screws from Mi-28A (X-shaped tail rotor),
                  Mi-35 is an export version of the Mi-24V.
                  Mi-25 is an export version of Mi-24D.
                  And which helicopter does not retract the landing gear? It’s just that it seems that these differences are with VMs. But the VM has no export modification.

                  This refers to the Mi-35M. This helicopter is no longer an export version, but going with the same name to the Russian army.
                  1. Vladimir Ball.
                    Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 12: 56
                    -1
                    there most likely was an old mi-24 which the Americans shot down in afghanistan
            2. Lightpower
              Lightpower 11 July 2016 14: 25
              +4
              There you can clearly see in the video how the X-shaped tail rotor flies off.
            3. Vladimir Ball.
              Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 12: 53
              +1
              he is lying. The 35th is an absolutely modern helicopter in electronics and electronic warfare. it couldn’t be shot down by such a US missile
          2. Vladimir Ball.
            Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 12: 51
            -1
            not like MI-35. On the 35th there is a ROCKET RETROL - EW SYSTEM. on this junk 24th nothing stood
        4. Scoun
          Scoun 11 July 2016 13: 34
          +5
          Quote: Muvka
          Everywhere Mi-25.

          Kommersant reports a helicopter crash in Syria Mi-35M VKS of Russia
          81 8 1 Read 114 726 times

          Mi-35M helicopter

          During the fighting east of Palmyra, fighters shot down a new Mi-35M helicopter of the Russian Aerospace Forces. According to Kommersant, it was he who was controlled by two Russian pilots who died on Saturday in Syria

          Read more at RBC:
          http://www.rbc.ru/politics/11/07/2016/5782e21f9a794782b1817b56


          We will remind, earlier it became known that the militants of the “Islamic State” (IG, banned in the Russian Federation) shot down in Syria helicopter Mi-35M aerospace forces (VKS) of the Russian Federation. The incident occurred in the Palmyra region (Homs province, Syria). Crew commander Colonel Ryafagat Khabibullin and lieutenant Evgeny Dolgin were killed.
          REGNUM
          11:05

          To crush the bangs, you can drop the bombs on the cluster, so that nothing remains of them and that others would know what awaits them.
          Once and disappeared ....
          1. Vladimir Ball.
            Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 12: 59
            +1
            I would not trust a merchant. I repeat MI-35m - the latest helicopter in electronics. IT CANNOT BE SIMPLY TO BEAT SO, it is protected by EW
        5. weksha50
          weksha50 11 July 2016 13: 49
          +9
          Quote: Muvka
          What's the problem?


          In the journalists ... Banniy correctly said that not only the helicopter model is covered in different news in different ways, but even from this morning the media already says that the helicopter (and not just the crew) belonged to a group of Russian airborne forces in Syria ...

          That is, illiteracy and the desire to increase excitement - stupidly unlimited ...
          As well as the headlines with the content of this "news" ...
        6. RUS96
          RUS96 11 July 2016 14: 29
          +1
          Mi-25 is an export version of Mi-24D. It features a slightly modified composition of the equipment.
          The 35-chassis are not removed. The video is hard to see, but it seems to be removed.
          1. Vladimir Ball.
            Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 13: 06
            +1
            I say that this is a junk mi-24. they were shot down in Afghanistan and electronic warfare is not there from amer missiles
        7. Ze Kot
          Ze Kot 11 July 2016 15: 16
          -1
          At the beginning of the article it says "Mi-25", at the end - "Mi-35".


          And since when did the "Kuznetsov" become an aircraft carrier?
          1. Vladimir Ball.
            Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 13: 08
            -5
            killer aircraft carrier cruiser. has so many weapons that it can put the Amer fleet alone
        8. Bronis
          Bronis 11 July 2016 15: 59
          +4
          Quote: Muvka
          Everywhere Mi-25. And he is Syrian because in the Russian army, if I think correctly, there are no such helicopters. For this is an export modification of the Mi-24.

          Right. If I am not mistaken, Mi-24 Д.

          Quote: Muvka
          Mi-35 is also an export modification of one of the modifications of Mi-24.

          It depends on what. Mi-35P, for example, yes. But the video is not him, tk. It also features a "long" wing and retractable landing gear struts. And the video shows the landing gear and the "shortened" wing. This Mi-35 is in the Russian Air Force.
          It is possible that the downed car on the help line was transferred to the Syrians. No wonder the pilot instructors were there. the names of the export options of the Mi-24 were many. whoever wants, let him seek. The military from the old memory called Mi-25, because export. Conspirologists began to search for super-deep meaning ... they are not doing it. the helicopter’s affiliation and type are not important, only people's lives are important. They can’t be returned, not the pieces of iron ... Pilots - eternal memory, feel sorry for families.
          1. Vladimir Ball.
            Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 13: 19
            +1
            knowing the model of the helicopter that it’s junk mi-24, you can return the lives of future pilots and avoid tragedies. there were no electronic warfare systems or President-C systems on the old days, so he was shot down. you cannot eject from 24
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        10. Stas157
          Stas157 11 July 2016 17: 32
          +2
          Quote: Muvka
          Everywhere Mi-25

          It looks like the Mi-35, its chassis is not removed. The video shows this clearly.
      2. guzik007
        guzik007 11 July 2016 13: 38
        +11
        That mi 25, then mi 35 now Syrian is already ours here zhurnalyugi

        Yes, not zhurnalyugi, but MO. At first they lied that they didn’t shoot at all, the day before yesterday they lied that they had shot down, but the Syrian, today they officially recognized that the Mi-35 and that belonged to the VKS. Here, on the forum, sound versions of specialists about self-undermining of their own NURSA have already been heard. To acknowledge this is to acknowledge the negligence and poor quality of ammunition.
        And the helicopter pilots are all equally divided. Let the earth rest in peace for them. Mourn
        1. weksha50
          weksha50 11 July 2016 13: 55
          +8
          Quote: guzik007
          Here, on the forum, sound versions of specialists about self-undermining of their own NURSA have already been heard.



          More than once, a video was suggested and shown on how this happened ... What kind of self-explosion of the NURSA with the tail beam flying off? Where is it suspended (block with NUR), and its power? And just the end of the tail unit flew off, the helicopter whirled around the whole and - that’s it ...
      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 11 July 2016 15: 33
        +3
        When it comes to the Russian aircraft carrier, aircraft of the Su-33 and MiG-29 / KUB aircraft, as well as Ka-52K, Ka-27 and Ka-31 helicopters can be involved against the militants. Recall that the aircraft carrier is able to carry on board 15 fighters and about a dozen helicopters of the types mentioned.

        Do we have an aircraft carrier ??? belay Did I miss something?
        Ahh, again the magazine whores mixed up the soft with the warm fool TAKR with Aircraft Carrier No.
        1. Ze Kot
          Ze Kot 11 July 2016 22: 03
          +2
          Have noticed, for doubt, that "Kuznetsov" aircraft carrier, mold cons wink

          Both to you and to me. I compensate you alone laughing
      4. Ride78
        Ride78 11 July 2016 22: 45
        +6
        the cassad’s kind of found out that it’s mi 35, ours. Both. There are two of them in the video. And it seems like an emergency situation, the third salvo of the Nurses, and the rocket flew off in the opposite direction, knocking the tail rotor.
    2. volot-voin
      volot-voin 11 July 2016 14: 06
      +1
      Quote: Yarik76
      The positions of the barmalei in rubble! That will be their retribution for the very beard!

      No one announced it loudly, but if they cook it, then I warmly support it. It’s time to bury the barmolei already so that they wouldn’t come to their senses and run to complain about infringement of their rights.
    3. meriem1
      meriem1 11 July 2016 14: 19
      +1
      Quote: Yarik76
      The positions of the barmalei in rubble! That will be their retribution for the very beard!

      WET !!!!!!!!!!!!!
      PS. There is a stinger along the way !!! And there’s nothing to listen to amers now, but it’s better to throw MANPADS to the Kurds and Syrians !!!!
      1. SPQR1977
        SPQR1977 11 July 2016 20: 43
        +2
        Does the enemy have aviation? why are they MANPADS ?? If only Turkish which over Syria sky ordered thanks to the S-400.
        1. Vladimir Ball.
          Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 13: 28
          -1
          USA ISIS IS AVIATION! OFFICIALLY STATING!
      2. Vladimir Ball.
        Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 13: 27
        -1
        like TOW - advanced Stinger
    4. Havoc
      Havoc 11 July 2016 14: 28
      +2
      Quote: Yarik76
      The positions of the barmalei in rubble! That will be their retribution for the very beard!


      Nah .., burn out everything so that the gravel will crumble.
      1. Vladimir Ball.
        Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 13: 30
        0
        I HAD LONG TIME DISTRIBUTED THE ARMENIANS OF SYRIA MANPADS TO BATTLE THE UNLAWFUL AIRLINES OF THE USA ISIS IN SYRIA!
    5. GSH-18
      GSH-18 11 July 2016 15: 37
      +1
      Quote: Yarik76
      The positions of the barmalei in rubble! That will be their retribution for the very beard!

      Useless. First you need to take TOU suppliers for eggs. Well, or defeat the supply infrastructure.
      1. Vladimir Ball.
        Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 13: 33
        -1
        no problem! UNDERSTAND NUCLEAR MINES AT THE WASHINGTON COAST AND EVERYTHING - ISIS IS NOT!
    6. Alexey-74
      Alexey-74 11 July 2016 16: 08
      +3
      our VKS needs to increase pressure on the militants, both in quantity and quality
    7. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 11 July 2016 19: 17
      +2
      Quote: Yarik76
      The positions of the barmalei in rubble! That will be their retribution for the very beard!

      Hello!! Not everything is simple. The multi-tiered rabble called Syria’s freedom fighters is being monitored. There is a delimitation of the barmalei. A very unpleasant thing is already being seen. The USA is very eager to hide them under its umbrella. Ceasefire successes are already noticeable. The Yankees are not in vain pulling with their lists and want and prick. The second is a lot of small-caliber weapons by the barmalei and machine guns too. It is necessary to thoroughly prepare for this operation. It is very difficult to free the provinces of Syria from the barmales. It needs artillery, mortar tanks and all the accompanying support for the ground forces. There is an accumulation of information. And how all this will result will soon find out.
      1. Vladimir Ball.
        Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 13: 39
        -1
        everything will be decided in Moscow in September. IF VL. PUTIN WINS ELECTIONS TO THE DUMA, THEN THE USSR GETS SOVEREIGNTY, FURTHER US CIVILIZATION IS THE END AND, consequently, THE END OF ITS ISIS IN SYRIA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiPm_A1_WEk
  2. alpamys
    alpamys 11 July 2016 13: 10
    +9
    Soaking the babaevs is the whole answer .. it’s a shame that the Russians are fighting for the Syrians and the majority fell into Europe and bliss while the babaevs are crumbling for them.
    1. Sunseich
      Sunseich 11 July 2016 13: 24
      0
      like less than 2 hundred of these ...
    2. Observer2014
      Observer2014 11 July 2016 13: 33
      +14
      Well, the fact that retaliation will be a fact is not disputed!
      I’m about to talk about something else hunting. I apologize in advance for distracting you from the topic of the article. But this is just good news! You can clearly see how some of our media outlets started promoting Turkish resorts from far away. But the Sochi authorities went further:
      Administration of Sochi - The operating mode of the beaches of Sochi must comply with the water code of the Russian Federation
      Hours are set - from 08.00 to 20.00. This is done to protect citizens from accidents. Often, people who come on vacation lose their vigilance and are very careless about their health and even life. Most of the tragedies are usually associated with the fact that guests go swimming in the sea.
      At first glance, there is a ban under a plausible excuse. And if you understand and understand the essence of what is happening?! We do not need enemies. Our authorities are worse than any enemy. This is to be learned in the middle of the season! Such nonsense could be accepted only by the sick or enemies. I understand Now the Sochi police will have extra income to protect the sea from people laughing
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 11 July 2016 13: 35
        +10
        at any resort like that.

        You will not be shot on the way to the beach - just in case of your death - you went yourself and at your own risk.

        And no one will be to blame except you.

        After 11, you can’t swim in the pool at the Karl Hotel, and even about open water - and even more so.

        Mostly blue characters bathe at night. And let them be responsible for their own lives. The law is only about that.

        In our suburbs on each lake there are signs - swimming is prohibited. Nobody catches anyone, just relieves responsibility for your life.

        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 11 July 2016 13: 58
          +5
          St Petrov hi God forbid that it would be so. As you printed. After 20:00 in Sochi, local swimmers (because after work) And vacationers. And the blue characters were there and will bathe at night laughing Well, let's take a look at the expense of the police. All in 10 minutes of walking from the sea I live. laughing
          1. AndreyS
            AndreyS 11 July 2016 15: 08
            0
            Quote: Observer2014
            Well, let's take a look at the expense of the police. All in 10 minutes of walking from the sea I live.

            If you live in a respected Sochi, then this crap would not have written! There was a ban on swimming after 20:00 since the days of the USSR, in the 80s border guards drove from the beaches (and if you lit a fire, you could also spend a couple of unpleasant hours with interrogation) and there was nothing to swim for yourself. They bathed and bathed after 20:00 and until 8:00. Moreover, the police have enough worries even without beaches.
            So do not make an elephant out of a fly.
            1. Vladimir Ball.
              Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 13: 47
              -1
              now, too, the times of the USSR, dear, check out Kashchenko, "TERMINATION OF THE USSR" - THERE IS NO SUCH FORMAT IN THE USSR CONSTITUTION! http://vk.com/wall-78975488_17441 read and get well
          2. AndreyS
            AndreyS 13 July 2016 07: 47
            0
            Quote: Observer2014
            St Petrov hi God forbid that it would be so. As you printed. After 20:00 in Sochi, local swimmers (because after work) And vacationers. And the blue characters were there and will bathe at night laughing Well, let's take a look at the expense of the police. All in 10 minutes of walking from the sea I live. laughing

            Well, in addition to you:
            "... A video shot on one of the beaches of the Khostinsky district was sent to the editorial office of Vesti Sochi. On the shore without movement lies the body of a man, covered with a blanket. Apparently, he drowned. Moreover, in recent days, the bodies of two more dead were found on the beaches of the resort. This became known on a meeting held today in the Sochi administration.
            The night before, a girl drowned on the beach of the Grenada boarding house in the Lazarevsky district of the resort. And on Sunday in Khost a drunken vacationer died in the same way. The mayor of Sochi took personal control of the consideration of these cases by the prosecutor's office, and demanded to immediately terminate the contracts with the tenants of these beaches.
            The resonant situation with the prohibition of visiting beaches from 8 pm to 8 am yesterday was the news of the day. The innovation lasted less than a day. Why on Sunday evening in the places of passage to the beaches appeared chains and boundary tapes? Anatoly Pakhomov addressed this question to tenants of coastal territories.
            “We demand one thing - security. They took and did everything so harshly and precisely with the locals to draw attention to themselves. Why do this? We are not opposed to having the local people plunge after work, ”said the mayor.
            According to the head of the city, tenants introduced a regime of visiting beaches in order to simplify their life: not to worry about maintaining order on the beach at night, when work with lifeguards and doctors ends. The fact is that, under rental terms, not only lifeguards, but also security guards should be on duty at the beaches, moreover, around the clock ...
            "http://vesti-sochi.tv/proisshestvija/43392-na-pljazhe-v-hoste-nashli-telo-muzhch

            ins
            As I said, do not make an elephant out of a fly. Sincerely.
        2. razmik72
          razmik72 11 July 2016 14: 22
          0
          Quote: c-Petrov
          at any resort like that.

          You will not be shot on the way to the beach - just in case of your death - you went yourself and at your own risk.

          And no one will be to blame except you.

          After 11, you can’t swim in the pool at the Karl Hotel, and even about open water - and even more so.

          Mostly blue characters bathe at night. And let them be responsible for their own lives. The law is only about that.

          In our suburbs on each lake there are signs - swimming is prohibited. Nobody catches anyone, just relieves responsibility for your life.

          Dear, I don’t swim in the heat, but I also like to swim at night, the water in the day becomes warm, and the sun does not bake my head.
      2. polbotinka33079
        polbotinka33079 11 July 2016 13: 39
        +1
        So it is not necessary in Sochi. Go to the Crimea. There are beaches around the clock. Tested on yourself.
        1. Vladimir Ball.
          Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 13: 49
          -1
          or better, we will release the Fatherland of the USSR in 2016 and we will rest throughout the USSR WHERE WE WANT!
      3. razmik72
        razmik72 11 July 2016 14: 18
        +2
        Quote: Observer2014
        Well, the fact that retaliation will be a fact is not disputed!
        I’m about to talk about something else hunting. I apologize in advance for distracting you from the topic of the article. But this is just good news! You can clearly see how some of our media outlets started promoting Turkish resorts from far away. But the Sochi authorities went further:
        Administration of Sochi - The operating mode of the beaches of Sochi must comply with the water code of the Russian Federation
        Hours are set - from 08.00 to 20.00. This is done to protect citizens from accidents. Often, people who come on vacation lose their vigilance and are very careless about their health and even life. Most of the tragedies are usually associated with the fact that guests go swimming in the sea.
        At first glance, there is a ban under a plausible excuse. And if you understand and understand the essence of what is happening?! We do not need enemies. Our authorities are worse than any enemy. This is to be learned in the middle of the season! Such nonsense could be accepted only by the sick or enemies. I understand Now the Sochi police will have extra income to protect the sea from people laughing

        My distant comrade from sunny Adler, I heard that your State Duma passed a law that practically forbids renting out apartments. This law is even worse than the tricks of your local authorities. This is because there is no feedback from the people, the boss wants it I repeatedly criticized our authorities on this site, but your dumbheads exceeded ours, and I naively thought our dumbasses were dumb champions in the universe laughing .
        1. Vladimir Ball.
          Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 13: 53
          -1
          Dear, you yourself are not far from these dumbheads. YOU BLAME ALL TIME OF POWER! what authorities do you blame? power of the USSR? these bodies deserted in 1991. instead of them came foreign organized crime groups of the Russian Federation, Ukraine, Kazakhstan. if you ask them to help you, then this is useless! RF FOUNDER - PEOPLE OF THE USA, ask the people of the USA why it worsens your life! http://vk.com/wall-78975488_17441
      4. SPQR1977
        SPQR1977 11 July 2016 20: 45
        +1
        A good topic for a mount show)))
      5. Vladimir Ball.
        Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 13: 43
        -1
        correctly understood, the authorities of the gang of the Russian Federation are against your country of the USSR, as well as the authorities of the gang of Ukraine Kazakhstan Moldova. all the gangs in the USSR against your country
    3. Vladimir Ball.
      Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 13: 41
      0
      Soviet citizens are fighting in Syria not for the Syrians, but for our empire of the USSR, just like the Americans in Syria are fighting for the US empire - NATU
  3. figwam
    figwam 11 July 2016 13: 10
    +4
    It is not clear what the MI-35 was shot down.
    1. alpamys
      alpamys 11 July 2016 13: 15
      +2
      Quote: figvam
      It is not clear what the MI-35 was shot down.

      It doesn’t look like a bird either.
      1. figwam
        figwam 11 July 2016 14: 13
        +1
        A series of flashes on the right side is visible on the video, this is either shells hit the starboard side, or an accidental detonation of the NAR from damage received in battle.
        1. I doubt it
          I doubt it 11 July 2016 14: 39
          +3
          "The video shows a series of flashes on the right side, this is either shells hitting the starboard side, or ..."

          No.
          This is the start of the NARs, you can see how they "leave". I counted three. The turntable attacked.
          And then a clear hit in the tail rotor. Not even to the beam. Like a screw (gearbox).
          No chance ...
          1. figwam
            figwam 11 July 2016 16: 11
            +1
            Quote: I doubt it


            No.
            This is the start of the NARs, you can see how they "leave". I counted three. The turntable attacked.
            And then a clear hit in the tail rotor. Not even to the beam. Like a screw (gearbox).
            No chance ...

            Well, I don’t know, if you believe the reports, they have already left the battle and were heading for the base, and NARs usually gulp up a thick smoke trail.
  4. hirurg
    hirurg 11 July 2016 13: 11
    +23
    Operation Retribution. What smacks of something American, not?
    Do you want to punish, do silently, clenching your teeth, to the end, to ashes !!!
    1. prorab_ak
      prorab_ak 11 July 2016 13: 15
      +2
      Here it is)) ... it's just the principle of media coverage has become completely American, we ourselves can’t even come up with our own ... and if we borrow it means good tactics wink
      1. Vladimir Ball.
        Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 14: 10
        -1
        Russia is an American company, therefore, the Russian media also copy their parents. http://vk.com/wall-78975488_17441
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 12 July 2016 15: 03
          0
          It’s softer, comrade, softer, why are you stepping on a sore spot! Not everyone loves can blame!
    2. Karasik
      Karasik 11 July 2016 13: 35
      +5
      Quote: hirurg
      Operation Retribution. What smacks of something American, not?

      Well, if you don't like "Retribution", you can call it "Karachun" so that no one would guess. The main thing is that the barmaleevs are mixed with the earth in a quality manner!
      1. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 11 July 2016 15: 01
        +4
        Quote: Karasik
        Well, if you don't like "Retribution", you can call it "Karachun" so that no one would guess. The main thing is that the barmaleevs are mixed with the earth in a quality manner!


        Better yet, call the operation "flying arctic fox".
        1. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 11 July 2016 19: 16
          +1
          Quote: Karasik
          Well, if you don't like "Retribution", you can call it "Karachun" so that no one would guess. The main thing is that the barmaleevs are mixed with the earth in a quality manner!


          Better yet, call the operation "flying arctic fox".


          somehow already cited an excerpt from the story of the satirist writer Bakhnov. not literally, but the essence
          "The ruler of Ogogondia asks the ministers what to do with the enemy?
          - I suggest: declare war and drop the atomic bomb!
          - Drop the atomic bomb, and then declare war!
          - No, it is better to drop an atomic bomb and not declare anything! "(C)

          Here it’s the same thing - can it be fucked up properly and not announce anything? request
          1. Vladimir Ball.
            Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 14: 15
            -1
            I would have shot down all US planes in Syria and haven’t ANNOUNCED ANYTHING!
        2. Vladimir Ball.
          Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 14: 13
          0
          OPERATION "ISIS KIRDIK US!"
      2. Vladimir Ball.
        Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 14: 12
        0
        smile this is ours! USSR VKS MIXES THEM WITH HUMNUM!
    3. Vladimir Ball.
      Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 14: 08
      -1
      The Russian Federation is an American Mr., here it is trying to copy its master.
  5. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 11 July 2016 13: 12
    +7
    Bury the scum three meters deep, mixed with local soil.
  6. avvg
    avvg 11 July 2016 13: 12
    +2
    Under their feet, the ground must burn.
  7. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 11 July 2016 13: 13
    +21
    Cool offended ours :) They themselves figurit the spirits from the helicopter, when the spirits of the helicopter managed to knock down, ours themselves were offended by the spirits and decided to arrange retaliation for them. Cool, but our logic is lame. Of course, I am only for such a laver, although it would be nice if at first our team sorted out the cause of the loss of MI and took appropriate measures. One downed helicopter is unpleasant, but not fatal, two downed helicopters are already a trend ...
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 11 July 2016 13: 21
      +1
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      One downed helicopter is unpleasant, but not fatal, two downed helicopters are already a trend ..

      In an armed conflict of this intensity, losses are inevitable. Remember the American invasion of Iraq, when a helicopter was shot down, shot down by some supposedly peasant from small arms.
  8. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 11 July 2016 13: 14
    +4
    Kuzya before autumn does not appear off the coast of Syria (if at all). Some strange way of retaliation, for so much time it is still unknown what situation will be
    1. tomket
      tomket 11 July 2016 13: 20
      +7
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      Kuzya before autumn does not appear off the coast of Syria (if at all). Some strange way of retaliation, for so much time it is still unknown what situation will be


      Until Kuzya arrives, half of the broad women will die the death of the righteous of Islam by that time, fighting with each other, this is apparently the insidious plan.
  9. friend of animals
    friend of animals 11 July 2016 13: 15
    +4
    The press likes beautiful words, don’t feed bread. There, so the war is going on, what a special retribution they are composing. Better not to substitute the next time.
    1. Berber
      Berber 11 July 2016 13: 23
      +2
      Some kind of answer should be unambiguous. Moreover, there is a reason not to pay attention to the shouts of "partners".
  10. bubalik
    bubalik 11 July 2016 13: 15
    +1
    that "retribution"
    ,,, then "Retribution-2" ,,
  11. tomket
    tomket 11 July 2016 13: 16
    +14
    Hmm. The MO drove itself into a corner. In the beginning, they came up with a beautiful heroic story, retroactively about the Syrian Mi-25, after the video was published, it became "confused in the testimony." Now they decided to "hit" the enemy, who himself got kicked out of the unexpected "victory". They did not get to the wreckage, the reason was not established (shelling or the NURS that did not work properly), but conclusions have already been drawn. In general, in this episode, an obvious failure of the information center, I hope they will draw a conclusion - how not to do it.
  12. sontinianin
    sontinianin 11 July 2016 13: 17
    0
    The main thing is not to get caught there!
    1. Vladimir Ball.
      Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 14: 18
      0
      IMPOSSIBLE SUCH! either the USSR WILL FREE Syria, or the USA will liquidate this country through ISIS and will continue to accept us
  13. Leto
    Leto 11 July 2016 13: 17
    +14
    and the use of aircraft against terrorists based on the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier.

    The stupidity of propaganda is simply off scale. Black terrorists from ISIS (damn letters) will have to wait a long time while Kuzya limps to Syria, and participation in the "retaliation" of the Ka-27 or Su-33 causes ironic laughter ...
    Judging by the fact that all journalists write this nonsense, the author is someone from a large office, in a fit of cocaine frenzy, who issued the text "Operation Retribution" ...
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat 11 July 2016 13: 55
      +1
      I agree, however ... and our military Kuznetsov will not be called a cruiser (aircraft carrier) aircraft carrier. The stuffing from some sort of Nubostat sofa, I heard something, and then to the press ... I would have pulled out my hands.
    2. mitrich
      mitrich 11 July 2016 14: 26
      +1
      Something in the style of French retaliation, when Charles almost a month after the attacks broke out of the port. And hit three of the planes a couple of times.
      And Kuzya, in general, in about five months.
      The next day, maximum, everything should have been burned out there, as with the SU-24.
      1. Vladimir Ball.
        Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 14: 21
        0
        nothing is impossible. Kuznetsov, if necessary, will come to the shores of Syria in a day
      2. Vladimir Ball.
        Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 14: 22
        0
        nothing is impossible. Kuznetsov, if necessary, will come to the shores of Syria in a few days
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  14. atamankko
    atamankko 11 July 2016 13: 29
    +2
    To avenge the dead, a holy cause, but everything must be thought out.
  15. I doubt it
    I doubt it 11 July 2016 13: 33
    +3
    Be that as it may, the video directly hits the tail rotor.
    They write about the S-60, Tou or MANPADS.
    But.
    So get out of the S-60 still have to try. It is very doubtful that in addition to the guns, spirits also have a PKK, and even a serviceable one, and they know how to work on it.
    And most importantly, the terrain is open. The position of any of these means after the opening of the fire would be immediately spotted by the follower. They would just not leave.
  16. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 11 July 2016 13: 33
    +2
    That would not have to be such big words and names of operations.
    They struck an accented blow, achieved significant results, such that the Western media went into a howl of horror. And only then calmly, with dignity, they explained: "This is for you, s ... ki, for our pilots. Forget how to shoot into the sky and other barmaley popularly explain all the erroneousness of fire on turntables."
  17. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 11 July 2016 13: 34
    +4
    It is necessary to wet them from all that is possible. A good terrorist is a dead terrorist.
  18. maxxdesign
    maxxdesign 11 July 2016 13: 35
    +4
    It is high time to send "calibers" with greetings! Enough to lisp ... and don't care what amerekoshki are yapping about about their moderate terrorists! ... if you happen to be next to daesh and anusra, then they dealt with them, it means they are the same as them! will come across someone from the Americans or the Turks there .. also cover everything with a copper basin! ... let at least they blather there!
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 11 July 2016 14: 18
      +2
      In the area where the plane was shot down, within a radius of 50 km, only the Black and Syrian army (which is government). No other broads are there.

      Black is now going into a counterattack while attacking blocks and positions at the heights around the city (several heights behind them, they shot down 11 blocks, plus the Elevator, which the government army recaptured the other day - after the blacks took him ten days ago).
    2. Vladimir Ball.
      Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 14: 24
      0
      Russia can not shoot in the USA. Russia - an American gang in the USSR!
  19. Belarus
    Belarus 11 July 2016 13: 35
    +1
    Information has leaked to the press that Russia is preparing a response to the actions of militants in Syria, who recently shot down a Mi-25 helicopter (export version of Mi-24) with a Russian crew.


    It would be strange if this did not happen. What kind of retaliation will we see soon, we won’t even have to say that it was just retribution, we will understand it ourselves !!!!!
  20. BOB044
    BOB044 11 July 2016 13: 40
    +2
    For a long time it was necessary to close the border with Turkey to the castle and the rubble of these militants. And to bomb the convoy across the border. And let's see what happens.
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    2. donavi49
      donavi49 11 July 2016 14: 28
      +3
      Geography does not agree. To block the border with Turkey, it is necessary to conduct a strategic offensive operation to a depth of 60-80 km. Moreover, in the area full of babahs to the top - the province of Idlib, where the capital is Nusra, the capital of Ahrara and another 100500 babahgroups.

      The immediate plan to go to Foix and Kefrai (Shiite villages that have been surrounded since the fall of Idlib) was closed in the winter, when the focus on Palmyra was shifted. And now, the initial position is lost both in Latakia and in Aleppo.
  21. ramzes1776
    ramzes1776 11 July 2016 13: 42
    0
    Oh, these zhurnalyugi. Such storytellers, no words.
  22. Yugra
    Yugra 11 July 2016 13: 46
    +4
    If the weapon of the mattress was used, strike at the so-called moderate al-Qaeda (which is under the roof of the mattress) .Without warnings and regrets ...
    1. Vladimir Ball.
      Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 14: 32
      -1
      Impossible, the Russian Federation - a mattress company in the USSR
  23. cap
    cap 11 July 2016 13: 56
    +1
    Slaughter them all that is, until they themselves die from horror.
    And then "moderate" some, "not moderate" children of one sow.
    To avenge so that Syria could not be found on the map, ever.
  24. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 11 July 2016 14: 02
    +2
    Such operations are very useful and necessary. You just need to prepare well for this. In order not to just raise the dust, the chickens are ridiculed. And turn everything upside down in Russian, so that everything down to cockroaches flies above the ground. And the bandits moaned everywhere in horror.
  25. Krsk
    Krsk 11 July 2016 14: 02
    +2
    caliber + day airstrikes on movement
  26. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 11 July 2016 14: 02
    +2
    Firstly, the method of carpet bombing should be used wherever possible on the Ishil and Nusra, and secondly, when I say "retribution", German Fau rockets come to my mind! "Revenge", "utilization" - in my opinion the name should be changed.
  27. erased
    erased 11 July 2016 14: 02
    +6
    Fortune telling on coffee grounds. The answer will be, but which one - we will find out after the answer itself.
    In the meantime, the asymmetric answer is tourists from Russia to Turkey. They are met with flowers, and attacked in the markets (there is a video on the network). Here you have ISIS sponsors in all its glory. To whom the war, to whom the resort. Prices bite, Turkey must take loot for terrorists from somewhere.
    And that, quite so modern, tolerant and shitty.
    1. aiden
      aiden 11 July 2016 22: 30
      +1
      let them go, the main thing for them is to warm their ass. such and go over to the side of the enemy. Normal people in the village or in the country rest, or where else in Russia. Let them bring down to Turkey, they have nothing sacred. That would not let them go back
      1. Vladimir Ball.
        Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 14: 36
        0
        this is called a contingent of "citizens of the USSR", whom I would deprive of the citizenship of our country, it is clear that Vladimir Vladimirovich is maneuvering - TRYING TO EXPLORE AMERICAN NATU FROM TURKEY - and the tourists immediately flooded the biomass stupid
  28. kot312
    kot312 11 July 2016 14: 13
    +2
    Then I read the version that maybe they shot down their own by accident
    https://citeam.org/hind-e-down/
    1. Dave36
      Dave36 11 July 2016 14: 36
      +1
      Very similar to the truth ... and the pinwheel is the most modern ((
  29. mlad
    mlad 11 July 2016 14: 27
    +3
    A tail boom with a tail rotor was struck and could get from anywhere, even from a gun, a matter of chance. If they flew on KA 52, the guys would be alive. All the time, the advantage of this coaxial scheme was emphasized and here is a good example.
    1. Vladimir Ball.
      Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 15: 02
      +1
      KA-52 CAN BE CATAPULED ONCE AGAIN 300. YES AND THE KA-52 HELICOPTER IS ARMORED, IT DOESN'T SPIT FOR THESE ROCKETS
  30. sergey2017
    sergey2017 11 July 2016 14: 29
    +3
    The main thing is not in a hurry! Revenge dish is cold! Coordinate intelligence with BP on the places where the militants are present and carry out "carpet" bombing! That not one bastard crawled away!
  31. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 11 July 2016 14: 38
    +2
    When it comes to the Russian aircraft carrier, carrier-based aircraft Su-33 and MiG-29 / KUB, as well as Ka-52K, Ka-27 and Ka-31 helicopters, can be used against militants.
    A good retaliation for the militants would be the combat stability of Assad's soldiers, so that our aviation would not have to fulfill the duties of a "fire brigade" falling into skillful ambushes or being exposed to active fire resistance from the ground.
    In this regard, the question is, how good are the Su and MiG shipboard options for working on the ground in comparison with the Su-34 or the experienced Su-24 super-specialist?
  32. Romin
    Romin 11 July 2016 14: 39
    +6
    Revenge is good! But why do these important things periodically. As for this helicopter crew, no one died?
    It is necessary to systematically work and destroy the enemy. And use modern military and technology protection elements! And strictly refers to the planning of operations, especially including actions due to unforeseen circumstances, otherwise we will lose people.
    And what kind of insurance is such 2,5 million rubles. In world practice, the cost of living in a plane crash or fault of the state in the region of 3-5 million in dollar terms. What kind of 2,5 million? Do we have people worse?
    Why salaries to bureaucrats in state-owned companies at 50-100 million a year? They are shot after a year of work?
    And after the bonus of 250-300 million quarter?
    State-owned company and the army for the budget so then in parallel! Where is the money zing? People gave their lives!
    Where are our drones? Where are the shock drones dropping bombs and rockets on the needle-men?
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 11 July 2016 18: 02
      +2
      Quote: Romin
      And what kind of insurance is such 2,5 million rubles. In world practice, the cost of living in a plane crash or fault of the state in the region of 3-5 million in dollar terms. What kind of 2,5 million? Do we have people worse?
      Why salaries to bureaucrats in state-owned companies at 50-100 million a year? They are shot after a year of work?
      And after the bonus of 250-300 million quarter?

      If we pay insurance for 3-5 million dollars, then officials will never have such salary and bonuses. Yes, nobody will agree to this! You what! Throw these thoughts! It will do for us, tolerate it!
    2. Muvka
      Muvka 11 July 2016 18: 12
      0
      Quote: Romin
      Revenge is good! But why do these important things periodically. As for this helicopter crew, no one died?
      It is necessary to systematically work and destroy the enemy. And use modern military and technology protection elements! And strictly refers to the planning of operations, especially including actions due to unforeseen circumstances, otherwise we will lose people.
      And what kind of insurance is such 2,5 million rubles. In world practice, the cost of living in a plane crash or fault of the state in the region of 3-5 million in dollar terms. What kind of 2,5 million? Do we have people worse?
      Why salaries to bureaucrats in state-owned companies at 50-100 million a year? They are shot after a year of work?
      And after the bonus of 250-300 million quarter?
      State-owned company and the army for the budget so then in parallel! Where is the money zing? People gave their lives!
      Where are our drones? Where are the shock drones dropping bombs and rockets on the needle-men?

      Do not carry nonsense. The US in Iraq lost 4 military, according to the wiki. In your opinion, that they spent $ 423 billion on payments?
      1. Vladimir Ball.
        Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 15: 06
        -1
        a lot more. USA easily print them through the payment of tribute from the USSR stupid gang of the Russian Federation
    3. Vladimir Ball.
      Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 15: 05
      -1
      Until your homeland of the USSR was occupied by a gang of the Russian Federation, you will be asking these questions every day
  33. DON-100
    DON-100 11 July 2016 14: 42
    +18
    They lied in Chechnya, they lied in the Donbass, now they lie in Syria too. The chassis racks are clearly visible on the video, so it’s Mi-35, it can’t be Syrian, as far as I know the Syrians do not have Mi-35. So why did you have to lie about the Syrian helicopter ?! They hold their own citizens for fools who can be fooled by any lie and they cheat, because they sacredly believe in television.
    1. Vladimir Ball.
      Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 15: 08
      0
      while you consider yourself rf, they will lie to you. Russia is not a state, but a company in the USSR
  34. An-mi
    An-mi 11 July 2016 15: 04
    0
    It is necessary to increase the pressure on the militants at least an hour by the teaspoon, but with tenacity, daily, weekly and not a bit of a racket.
  35. Berkut24
    Berkut24 11 July 2016 15: 05
    +2
    Damn, how much text you wrote down ... You just need to do it - silently and competently. And then the death of the pilots turns into some kind of show.
  36. Varyag15
    Varyag15 11 July 2016 15: 14
    +1
    and do everything silently, but in full. or in warehouses FAB-5000 over?
    1. DmitryK
      DmitryK 11 July 2016 19: 42
      0
      By the way ended ....
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 11 July 2016 21: 22
      0
      There are FAB 9000 and ODAB 7000.
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 11 July 2016 21: 25
      +1
      They also said that the Tu 160 bomber will soon receive a new planning bomb, a volumetric explosion, weighing 40 tons.
  37. tomket
    tomket 11 July 2016 15: 17
    +8
    Approximate development of the disaster (from the site of the military industrial complex): "The fact is that solid, composite fuel in a jet engine over time (1,5-2 times longer than the shelf life) begins to shrink and crack (like clay in the desert). Cracks begin progress, new dryings occur from new surfaces, etc. When the solid fuel is ignited, then combustion occurs along a figured combustion channel (along the length of the rocket engine), but now new combustion “corridors” (of which there are a lot) have been added to them and combustion occurs several times faster than the calculated one. From this, and the pressure inside the engine also increases several times, which contributes to an even higher combustion rate of the composite fuel. The rocket engine housing simply inflates and it explodes. In the outboard launcher RS, each rocket is placed in a steel launch tube (which, to some extent, plays the role of a recoilless shot - at the beginning of acceleration, and as the RS leaves it, it will continue acceleration from a jet engine even further) gatel). And so: - the body of the jet engine swells and would be glad to explode, but the launch tube does not give it, but at the same time the RS simply wedges in the launch tube and cannot explode (from pressure); somewhere, something must come off (where the structure is weaker) for the release of the destructive pressure - or a nozzle; or a warhead with explosives and a detonator. Bottom line: -RS stuck in the launch tube and vomited the nozzle with pressure, the bursting pressure disappeared-the spell too, and there was a "spit" of the head of the projectile (a few meters, and the fuse was moved / in time-deployment of the coil spring / in the combat position); the helicopter had the speed and the projectile too, the projectile (torn off from the jet engine) "spat out" a few meters ahead and it began to slow down with the oncoming air flow and the helicopter began to overtake it; the tail rotor flies onto the lagging projectile - the impact of the RV blade on the projectile and EXPLOSION; without RV, the helicopter is doomed - if only the engines are turned off and autorotated at a speed of 130-140 km / h, with a vertical speed of about 15 m / s, then turn up the nose by 20 degrees and cut the "Step-Gas" in front of the ground. But here one NO-HB (the main rotor - autorotating first from the descent, and then from braking, drives the units on the gearbox, and if at first the air speed flowed around the end beam (having a profile) and it acted like a weather vane, then before landing (the speed will greatly decrease - both translational and vertical) and the helicopter will begin to turn to the right (the Soviet standard for the direction of rotation of the HB). The helicopter has all the massive units located on the top and when it touches the ground sideways, it will start to somersault and the HB will start to "knead" everything and everyone. "
    If everything happened this way, then who were the "avengers" from authoritative unnamed sources going to take revenge on?
    1. vano
      vano 12 July 2016 23: 29
      0
      You may be right in everything, I’ll add a little, they shot at them and apparently fell from anti-aircraft guns and a rifle, where something flew there.
  38. Varyag15
    Varyag15 11 July 2016 15: 17
    0
    although it is possible to use FAB-9000. even more effective. Afghan spirits can tell how Poltava treated them
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  40. SNIF
    SNIF 11 July 2016 15: 31
    +6
    Sorry trade with ISIS no. So would impose economic sanctions and wait for an apology)
  41. silver_roman
    silver_roman 11 July 2016 15: 44
    +4
    When it comes to the Russian aircraft carrier, Su-33 carrier-based aircraft can be used against militants

    Can not. Deck drying is a pure fighter.
    Ta and Kuzya will get to Syria for a long time. It seems that as soon as the MiG-29K / KUB air wing exercises are being held.

    By the way, all this can be considered as revenge of the Yankees for the fact that our Su-34 their group of bearded smashed. Just recently there was a case.

    P.S. pilots have a bright memory, relatives and relatives - sincere condolences and sympathy. recourse
    1. tomket
      tomket 11 July 2016 15: 49
      0
      Quote: silver_roman
      By the way, all this can be considered as revenge of the Yankees for the fact that our Su-34 their group of bearded smashed. Just recently there was a case.

      Yankees bribed the ranks in the MO, which authorized the use of expired RS? She, for such multi-paths, they are not experts.
      1. silver_roman
        silver_roman 11 July 2016 16: 26
        0
        Quote: tomket
        She, for such multi-paths, they are not experts.

        it’s still not clear why they brought down the bear.
        What if it’s a stinger type PZRK? And this means that the Americans have already gone into the open for lawlessness.
        Then we urgently need to arm the Taliban in Afghanistan with cornets, play, etc.
        1. Vladimir Ball.
          Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 15: 20
          0
          it can be seen on the video that our MI-24 NURS launches along the militants, and the rocket hit it in the tail from a different direction - VISIBLE ON THE LINE! that is, MI-24 shot down from another direction where there were no militants
      2. Vladimir Ball.
        Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 15: 17
        0
        what to bribe them? rf - INITIALLY THE COMPANY CREATED YANKS, like the OAS Kazakhstan Ukraine Moldova and all the gangs in the USSR!
        1. silver_roman
          silver_roman 12 July 2016 17: 03
          0
          maybe this was part of their plans, but alas and AH!
          Of course, we cannot yet see sovereignty complete as our own ears, but still you go too far.
          I understand your despair.
          By US, I mean all the CIS, as part of a single!
      3. Vladimir Ball.
        Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 15: 18
        0
        what to bribe them? rf - the original company created the Yankees, as well as organized crime groups Kazakhstan Ukraine Moldova and all the gangs in the USSR!
    2. Vladimir Ball.
      Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 15: 15
      0
      comrade from the Ukrainian SSR, with the SU-33cm fighter still how can you beat all US planes in Syria!
      1. silver_roman
        silver_roman 12 July 2016 17: 00
        0
        Quote: Vladimir Bal.
        comrade from the USSR

        Я
        Quote: Vladimir Bal.
        from the SU-33cm fighter it’s still possible to beat all US planes in Syria!

        Does not exist in nature Su-33SM. There is just a Su-33. Deck version of the Su-27. This is a very old car, which in principle can bring down another plane.
        I wrote that he cannot work on the ground, i.e. that he is a pure fighter.
  42. Drzed
    Drzed 11 July 2016 16: 20
    0
    and why does the word "retribution" jar on many?
    1. I doubt it
      I doubt it 11 July 2016 18: 10
      +4
      "Why does the word" retribution "jar on many?"

      How many such words have been said ....
      The latest example is Turkey.

      PS. From a speech by Mikhail Zadornov.
      "Do you know what our president is called in Siberia? Liliputin.
      He speaks the right words, but the Lilliputian deeds ... "
      1. Vladimir Ball.
        Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 15: 22
        -1
        Amer does not seem to be the case of Vladimir Putin Lilliputian. If Vladimir Putin wins the Duma elections in September, he will SELL the RSFSR sovereignty that will automatically lead to the world restoration of the USSR and the death of US civilization! cockroach zadornov far to this
  43. Dr. Sorge
    Dr. Sorge 11 July 2016 16: 24
    +5
    It is tragic that the best go. Eternal memory to the pilots, may heaven accept them.

    And the question, how could it happen at all that the intelligence did not know about the presence of MANPADS of the enemy, is incomprehensible to me? They hit so many accurately with such missiles ... It hurts from this.
    1. aiden
      aiden 11 July 2016 22: 55
      0
      I don’t think that the MANPADS, the MANPADS would have tampered with the beam so that when the helicopter began to rotate, it would simply have been torn off, just as I don’t believe in tow, wouldn’t have put it on the helicopter at such a speed, at least some specialists there. Something else there
    2. Vladimir Ball.
      Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 15: 25
      +1
      The RSFSR SAVES BY HELICOPTERS, AS THE CB OF RUSSIA DESTROYS THE ECONOMY, WITHOUT THE Sovereignty of the USSR, OUR ARMY WILL NEVER FULL ORDER. WE HAVE THE RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WITH 43 PERCENT OF WORLD RESOURCES. WE CAN EASY BUILD 2000 KA-52
  44. Starik72
    Starik72 11 July 2016 16: 27
    +3
    Brothers! What is the difference which helicopter shot down, the main thing is not this, but the fact that our pilots were killed! But this is WAR, no matter how they call it from the outside. The thing is different, not in retaliation, but in the fact that this ISISIL scum must be destroyed mercilessly, wherever possible and impossible. No other is given here, otherwise OUR WARRIORS, PEACEFUL PEOPLE OF SYRIA and WARRIORS who are fighting for the liberation of SYRIA from the INFECTIOUS ISISIL MRAZ will die. I won’t write about journalists, since you know everything about them very well. With respect.
    1. Vladimir Ball.
      Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 15: 28
      0
      ISIS - UNOFFICIAL US ARMY NAT, NO USA - NO ISIS! WE FIGHT FOR THE EXEMPTION OF OUR COUNTRY OF THE USSR FROM THE OCCUPATION OF THE AMERICAN RUSSIAN FEDERATION by Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, etc.
  45. Shah71
    Shah71 11 July 2016 16: 30
    +3
    Friends, what difference does it make whether two Russian pilots are killed or not, but this is a war, I myself fought both Chechens, but nevertheless these are people, these are fathers, sons, Eternal memory to them.
    1. Vladimir Ball.
      Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 15: 29
      0
      on the chassis you can understand the brand of the helicopter and prevent further deaths
  46. Romin
    Romin 11 July 2016 16: 54
    +3
    I have a little question on MANPADS; But what does the Chinese FN-6 do in the hands of militants in a fairly small amount?
    Why is this question at the highest level not asked the Chinese. What permission to re-export was canceled?
    If the Cathars or the Saudis transferred the Chinese MANPADS without coordination with China, then this is a violation of the contract!
    If they transmitted and there are no questions from the Chinese, then they asked for permission to re-export and China approved.

    There were many topics about "love" with China or allied relations. I would talk about allied relations. But what happens: China is arming militants fighting against our army.
    Those. This is the same if, for example, India handed the MANPADS to Needle rebels fighting against the Chinese army, such as some Uighurs.
    In any case, an official request from Russia would be made from China and it would be broadcast through the media; what is the matter?

    I am interested in where our request is to China; how did the FN-6 MANPADS end up in the hands of bandits in Syria?
    1. SNIF
      SNIF 11 July 2016 17: 38
      +5
      What are you ?! How can you ask an "ally" such uncomfortable questions?) Vladimir Vladimirovich was recently in China, again he wrote a lot of things. So no one will ask the Chinese, be sure. Rather, they will pedal the topic about Stinger from the USA
      1. Vladimir Ball.
        Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 15: 33
        0
        and you proved that it is from China MANPADS? personally put Xi Ting Ping?
    2. Vladimir Ball.
      Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 15: 32
      +1
      ANSWER! REQUEST CHINA FROM WHO? FROM the gang of rf? but the Russian Federation-these are the bandits themselves in the USSR!
  47. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 11 July 2016 17: 29
    +3
    Guys, explain to me the fool-mi-24 flying tank that everyone praises so much. mi-28 super duper helicopter better than none. mi-35 waabsche class car equipport. so why do our turntables keep shooting down? or they hang noodles on our ears when they say that our super duper technique is the best? Well, just explain please, without unreasonable minuses.
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 11 July 2016 17: 43
      +5
      Carefully read the posts in this thread. It is popularly explained that it is possible to shoot down absolutely any helicopter, both ours, and American, and generally any. If there is an action, there will certainly be a reaction to it. The Jews made a good Merkava tank, saying that it cannot be knocked out in principle, the tank itself shoots down shells and missiles directed at it, puts up smoke protection, dodges, almost plays chess itself. In short, well, you can’t destroy this tank, and that’s it. And the poor Arabs buried on the road along which this Merkava rode a ton of cheap explosives. And it remained from Merkava, costing the budget of a small country, only a funnel. And a special Israeli service gathered pieces of tankers with their hands to bury them kosher. So you can destroy any equipment, it would be a desire.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 11 July 2016 18: 23
        +4
        "In short, you can't destroy this tank, and that's it" ////

        In Israel, never said such nonsense. Any technique can
        be protected better or worse relative to similar equipment with allies or opponents.
        Merkava costs about $ 4,5 million, not the most expensive modern tank.

        Combat helicopters can be protected from some threats (and not 100% of course), but not from all.
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    2. lukewarm
      lukewarm 12 July 2016 09: 31
      +2
      Judging by your avatar "TsUS-VVS" you should explain this to us. "Either put on your panties or take off the cross" © anecdote
    3. Vladimir Ball.
      Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 15: 35
      0
      shot down MI-24 - an old helicopter shot it down in Afghanistan. and this is an isolated case - not ISIS fighters shot down here, but on the other hand, judging by the photos and videos. NEW KA-52 NEVER US ISIS ISSUES
    4. ferrumio
      ferrumio 13 July 2016 07: 17
      0
      of course rub :) well, and you believe, the main thing is to believe :)
  48. COBA
    COBA 11 July 2016 17: 29
    +1
    What nah. "Retaliation" local do not want to fight very much. There are from trusted sources: "Our aviation processed the height, after which a dozen militants remained on it, and the Syrian army refused to go for an assault, explaining that this event was very dangerous to life and health. Babakhs, meanwhile, were shot and covered a whole bunch of Syrian Zolders from mortars This is a very common case.
  49. Khariton
    Khariton 11 July 2016 17: 53
    -2
    Russia knows how to take revenge ... The main thing in a hurry in this matter is impossible! soldier
  50. KnightRider
    KnightRider 11 July 2016 18: 01
    +2
    Ukrainian Internet experts believe that the Mi-35M (and this is it, that is, our airborne forces, if of course they were not attacked with airborne weapons from the SAR Air Force for the purpose of conspiracy) could have been shot down by friendly NAR fire behind the guided helicopter. But if this would be possible, then why didn’t hedge a half-helicopter?


    Read the details on UNIAN: http://www.unian.net/world/1410435-rossiyskiy-vertolet-v-sirii-mog-byit-sbit-dru
    jestvennyim-ognem-rassledovanie-cit-foto.html
    1. Vladimir Ball.
      Vladimir Ball. 12 July 2016 15: 39
      0
      the helicopter was shot down NOT FROM THE MILITANTS! I SEE! ON Tail FOR TAIL!