Persian corridor

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Persian corridor


The question of the role of the Lend-Lease Persian corridor in certain successes of the Red Army in the southern direction of the Soviet-German front during the Great Patriotic War is quite controversial. The study of this problem was not a priority in Soviet historiography: the reason for this was the ideological attitudes of the cold war period. Research interest in it manifested itself in the post-Soviet period.

After the signing of the Soviet-English agreement on granting a loan in the amount of 1941 million pounds sterling to the Soviet Union in July 10, the first deliveries of military cargo from Great Britain to the northern ports of the USSR began. Deliveries from the United States were made on the basis of the previously concluded Soviet-German agreement 1937. Initially, these deliveries were paid for the USSR.

At the Moscow 29 Conference of September - 2 of October, representatives of the USSR, the USA and England agreed on the supply of equipment to the Soviet Union, weapons, equipment and other tools for the period up to June 1942 of the year. 7 November 1941 of the United States extended the Lend-Lease Act to the USSR. By adopting a tripartite law, the parties determined the methods of supplying military-economic assistance to the territory of the Soviet Union.



There were five main Lend-Lease routes: the Pacific, Trans-Iranian, Arctic convoys, the Black Sea and the Soviet Arctic. To increase the volume of deliveries, it was necessary to improve the transportation hubs of Iran. These were mainly the Persian Gulf ports and the Trans-Iranian railway. In carrying out this task, the Soviet Union and Great Britain in August 1941 brought their troops into Iran. Since May 1942, cargo delivery amounted to 90 thousand tons per month. Cargo transported by the Caspian military flotilla, which was often subjected to enemy air attacks.



At the beginning of 1942, the German command planned an operation to seize the Caucasus and exit through the Transcaucasus to the Persian Gulf. To implement this plan, the enemy decided to break through the Soviet defenses on the Lower Don in the strip from the village of Tsimlyanskaya to Rostov-on-Don, after crossing the Don to continue the offensive along the Black and Caspian seas, and to the mountain rifle troops at the same time make a breakthrough through the passes of the Caucasus to Georgia.

Soon the 17th Wehrmacht army advancing from the Miussky line broke through the defense of the Southern Front and on June 24, 1942, together with the divisions of the 1st tank Rostov-on-Don occupied the army and moved south. By August 5, 1942 near Voroshilovsk (today - Stavropol), the 1st tank army of Kleist concentrated up to 200 tanks, and in all its divisions there were twice as many tanks as the Soviet troops. At that time, the Northern Group of Forces of the Transcaucasian Front had 133 tanks. In the August battles in the North Caucasus, the North Caucasian and Transcaucasian Fronts lost most of their tanks.

In mid-August, German troops occupied Voroshilovsk, Krasnodar, Armavir, Maikop and approached the north-western foothills of the Greater Caucasus Mountains. Despite the limited success in the Caucasus, Hitler continued to count on the implementation of big plans in this region. In a conversation with Keitel 18 September 1942, Hitler said: "The breakthrough on Tuapse and then the blocking of the Georgian Military Highway and the breakthrough to the Caspian Sea are decisive."

By the summer of 1942, the Soviet command had underestimated the importance of the Caucasus direction. The priority area of ​​defense was the Moscow direction, a little later - Stalingrad. It was there that sent the main reserves of the Red Army. The situation in the North Caucasus at the end of August became critical. The lack of armored vehicles in parts of the Northern Group of Forces of the Transcaucasian Front, necessary for deterring the enemy in the Maikop, Grozny and Baku areas, threatened to seize these oil production centers and their processing.

During this critical period, the Lend-Lease route from Iran turned out to be largely salvage for the Soviet group of forces operating in the Caucasus. The supply of tanks and aviation, since it was these types of military equipment that played a significant role with the battles of the Great Patriotic War. In total, about 12,7 thousand tanks from the USA, Great Britain and Canada were delivered to the Red Army under Lend-Lease during the war. Soviet tank units in the North Caucasus, which previously had mostly light tanks in service, greatly increased the combat power of their units at the expense of British and American tanks such as Valentine, Matilda and Stuart. Armored personnel carriers MK-1 Universal Carrier and M-3 Scout were delivered from England and the USA.



The Soviet and Red Army air forces received American and British aircraft through the Persian corridor. The delivery of combat aircraft began in March 1942, during this period in Tehran, Soviet pilots received a 72 bomber. By the end of the 1942 of the year, the United States supplied the Boston A-300 bomber and the Mitchell B-20 bomber.



A large number of English fighters came from Hurricane and Spitfire, the American P-39 Aero Cobra and P-63 Kingcobra, P-40 Tomahawk and Kittyhawk, and C-47 Douglas. Least of all was delivered American fighter P-47D "Thunderbolt". In total, the Iranian Lend-Lease corridor was delivered: 1942 in the year - 742, 1943 in the year - 2446, in 1944 - the 1678 aircraft (Matishov GG Afanasenko. War. South. Fracture (summer 1942-autumn 1943) Rostov-on-Don. 2012. C.64).



Various types of military vehicles arrived through the Persian Gulf. Some models of cars were shipped unassembled to the ports of Iran, after which they were assembled near the place of arrival.

A lot of difficulties were caused by the lend-lease transport system. A big problem was the timely training of drivers for automotive columns, which were transported from the ports of the Persian Gulf to the Caspian Sea. Sometimes we had to drive up to two thousand cars a month. This issue was resolved after the organization of short courses of drivers recruited from among the local population.

For all the time of the Persian corridor in the USSR, 483 thousands of cars were shipped.

Through the Persian Gulf in the Transcaucasus, such vehicles as Willis, Studebaker, Dodge, JBC, AES, Bedford, Albion, Austin were delivered , Scammell and others. Monthly during the 1942 of the year, two thousand military vehicles were delivered by the Persian corridor to the Red Army, and in the second half of the 1943, about five thousand vehicles.

The most famous was the light field vehicle “Willis”, as well as the “Studebaker” with the installed BM-13 jet system, called “Katyusha”.

As military practice has shown, the supply of armored vehicles was of great importance. In October, 1942 was part of the Soviet tank units in the Caucasus with an 302 tank, of which the 132 tank was made in the USA and England, which entered the front through lend-lease through Iran. The number of tanks supplied under the Lend-Lease to the Caucasus was almost half of the total number of combat units in the Soviet tank units in the Caucasus. For example, in the 5 Guards Tank Brigade there were 70 tanks, of which 55 were "Lend-Lease". In the 15 Tank Brigade and in the 75-th separate 99 Tank Battalion, the percent of tanks included in the lend-lease supply via the Iranian route (Kolomiets M., Moschansky I. Defense of the Caucasus. July-December 1942 of the Year. Front illustration. 2000 year. No. 2. C. 49-52).

In September, 1942, the 5-I Guards Tank Brigade in the battles of Malgobek caused great damage to German units, 38 tanks and assault guns were destroyed and burned; destroyed 24 howitzers and guns; six mortars and an 1800 man (Tank Lend-Lease). Considering these and other facts, one can say that the supply of armored vehicles through Lend-Lease through the Persian corridor was very significant for the Soviet troops in the Caucasus.

In the course of the Nalchik-Ordzhonikidze defensive operation 25 in October - 12 in November 1942, the enemy met stubborn resistance from the Red Army. As a result, the enemy could not pass through Ordzhonikidze and Grozny to the Caspian Sea. If the breakthrough of the German troops to the Caspian Sea was a success, then an important lend-lease route from Iran to the USSR would be in danger. At that moment, the railway from Kizlyar to Astrakhan was of strategic importance. It was built in the first half of 1942. From Astrakhan the cargo was sent to Stalingrad and further along the front.

By February, the North Caucasian Front was armed with 1943 foreign tanks: 186 Stewart, 123 Valentine, 38 M-15 Lee, 3 Sherman. As early as March 10, an 1943-armed Tank Brigade armed with Stewart light tanks destroyed 92 armored vehicles, 14 mortars, 4 light guns, and before 5 an enemy man, but the brigade lost almost twice as many tanks (Tank Lend, almost twice more tanks) .

An important role was played by lend-lease supplies for the troops of the Southern Front. American and British aircraft, tanks, armored vehicles, vehicles, tractors, anti-aircraft guns, as well as equipment and food played a positive role in providing the Red Army during the breakthrough of the Mius Front. In the storming of the Miuss frontier, the 8-I Air Army participated, in the air divisions of which there were also Lend-Lease aircraft. These were mainly Aerocobra P-39 fighters and Boston A-20 bomber.



The effectiveness of combat missions A.I. Pokryshkina on the Air Cobbler and his ability to fight shows that this type of aircraft was the most successful model among the aircraft supplied by the allies (Matishov GG Afanasenko. Mius-front in the Great Patriotic War. Rostov. 2001. С.151 -152).

Changes for the better followed the conference of Great Britain, the USSR and the USA in the autumn of 1943 of the year in Tehran. This conference had a positive impact on deliveries along the Persian corridor. In January, 1944 began the delivery of railway equipment to the USSR. In the battles at Stalingrad and on the Don the fascist German troops destroyed the railway communication. Locomotives, wagons, cargo platforms, as well as rolled metal and other equipment were delivered through the Persian corridor.

In the course of the Crimean offensive operation 1944 of the year, the Soviet tankers were able to distinguish themselves in battles: in the 79 and 101 tank brigades, in total, there were up to 60 "Valentine", delivered through Iran. The Soviet tank crews from the 101 Tank Brigade on these combat vehicles during a successful maneuver broke into Simferopol and made panic in the disposition of German troops. "Valentine" had a strong armor, radio and smoke grenade launchers.
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  1. +3
    12 July 2016 06: 51
    Quote: Polina Efimova
    Armored personnel carriers MK-1 Universal Carrier and M-3 Scout were delivered from England and the USA.

    the first was a machine gun wedge, the second was an armored car
    In WWII in the Soviet Armed Forces there was no armored personnel carrier

    Mostly, the products of Indian automobile plants went through Iran under their own power.
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    2. +2
      12 July 2016 15: 47
      During the Persian corridor 483 thousand cars were transferred to the USSR? belay Were they confused with zeros?
  2. 0
    12 July 2016 07: 50
    Polina, it’s not a woman’s business to write such articles .. Comments are now being showered .. Thank you ... for the article .. we tried ..
    1. +2
      12 July 2016 08: 42
      Everything seems to be right there. Kolomiyets wrote a good book, and there are many references to it. So what are the comments? For a selection of numbers?
      1. 0
        12 July 2016 11: 25
        Yes, in general, true ... And read the comments below ..
  3. +4
    12 July 2016 08: 00
    The supply of vehicles was mainly important.
    Aircraft and tanks against the background of Soviet production look very pale.
    But trucks at that time were needed as an edge, but it was not possible to produce tanks and trucks.
    Food also went under Lend-Lease - however, Mongolia, with 750 of thousands of the population, supplied the USSR with slightly less meat than Allied carcasses.
    1. 0
      12 July 2016 08: 43
      The meat is going out, the stew is gone!
      1. -2
        12 July 2016 08: 51
        and a lot of rotten?
        1. +1
          12 July 2016 10: 26
          There are official norms in% for perishable meat. But I do not know them. But they are, and it is obvious that some% of this meat was simply rotten, and some were written off as rotten.
          1. 0
            12 July 2016 10: 56
            for basturma, corned beef or livestock what?
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    2. +1
      12 July 2016 08: 44
      50% on the Mius front is not as pale as it seems. This is every second tank!
      Two minuses, I understand that 50% of their authors are few?
      1. -6
        12 July 2016 08: 53
        The English tanks were crappy, and if so, something was wrong then with him ...
        1. +9
          12 July 2016 10: 57
          What to compare with? With BT and T 26? In 1942, when the Caucasus was cut off from the European part of the USSR and Siberia, how could other machines appear there? Better with a bottle of KS than with a Stuart or Valentine, you say. The Germans did not have "Tigers" there either. The allies helped us a lot, no matter what they wrote there later. My grandfather in 1942 was the chief engineer of a stewed meat production plant. He was summoned from the active army as a food engineer and brought to the field near Tuapse with another officer. An armored train approached, Lavrenty Palych came out and said: “In a month, production should be started here, if not, then ... and left. A couple of hours later, trains with American equipment began to arrive, then American vehicles brought workers and prisoners. Even the stationery was American. Five weeks later, in the open air they began to produce canned meat for the army. My grandfather told me that we began to produce such equipment in the 60s. Lend-Lease is a great thing.
          1. +9
            12 July 2016 12: 01
            Many "experts", discussing the shortcomings of the equipment supplied within the framework of Lend-Lease, forget the old adage: "The road is a spoon to dinner ...." what is the situation in the Red Army with equipment and material and technical supplies in 1941-42? after the catastrophic losses of the beginning of the Second World War.
            Literally everything was missing, not only tanks and planes - therefore, any supplies were valuable to the front. And it should also be remembered that it was not equipment that was at war, but whose people had to be poorly fed and dressed poorly, equipped with everything necessary.
            In this case, I cannot but refer to my father, who began to fight in July 1941. So he and his colleagues, for example, were very pleased to receive green overcoats of English cloth and again sturdy English boots - with shoes and uniforms it was just seams. ...
            Since he went through almost the entire war, like my mother, the company’s medical instructor, I tend to believe them, and not the "experts" who know only the front side of the war and have not seen it, sometimes an unsightly underside ...
            After all, in a war, they not only shoot and attack, they still live an everyday front-line life with all its worries and hardships ... And the same stew was still valued at the forefront — it’s in everyday life and even a man remains a man with your needs and concerns ...
            I know this from my own experience, because at one time I also had to smell gunpowder, though at a different time and under other circumstances ...
            PS As for the performance characteristics of British and American tanks, I would like to recall that in 1941-42 (not from a good life), the T-60 and T-70 (and not the T-34 and KV) constituted a significant part of the Red Army tank fleet nothing superior to Lend-Lease cars ...
            Therefore, debunking some myths about the Second World War, you should not create others ...
          2. -3
            12 July 2016 16: 33
            With the appearance of most of them.
            Mius Front is not the Caucasus.
            It was expensive for the Germans to eat the Standard Oil motor oil, if it hadn’t been, everything would have ended there.
            1. +1
              14 July 2016 17: 30
              Quote: Simpsonian
              It was expensive to dinner the Germans Standard Oil engine oil


              The Germans seem to have used a time machine.
              And then Standard Oil disappeared in 1911
              1. 0
                14 July 2016 17: 35
                not disappeared, but fictitiously divided into parts, all of which were mostly owned by the same Rockefeller

                Standard Oil, New Jersey, became ESSO, now Exxon.
                Standard Oil, Ohio, became Sohio.
                Standard Oil, Indiana, became Amoco.
                Standard Oil, NY, became Mobil Gas.
                Standard Oil, California, became Chevron.
                Standard Oil, became ConocoPhillips.
                1. 0
                  17 August 2016 18: 37
                  and why is it fictitious?
                  they all had different sets of shareholders.
                  normally divided the company.
                  total - about Standard Oil - a lie.
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        3. +4
          12 July 2016 11: 06
          British tanks as well as American were quite on the level. The main thing is that they were distinguished by high quality production and excellent radio communications.
          1. -3
            12 July 2016 16: 34
            but like tanks they were crappy almost everyone ...
            1. +1
              12 July 2016 17: 11
              How tanks are that. Our tanks which had poor-quality tracks burst, the engine crashed after a couple of dozen hours, the towers died from bad fans, were disgusting or there were no optics and radio communications, the checkpoints that rattled for three km were on fire, they were good, like tanks. Only by the year 43 something began to turn out with quality.
              1. -1
                12 July 2016 17: 39
                Yes, the KV-1 was a bad tank, it just broke on the highway and a column of Germans crashed about it. lol T-34 is also worse than valentineyna.
                1. +2
                  12 July 2016 19: 07
                  One was lucky to break in the right place. And how many broke where they could not bring benefits.
                  1. -3
                    13 July 2016 02: 40
                    and some kind of rebuke you put a plus
            2. 0
              17 August 2016 18: 38
              Quote: Simpsonian
              but like tanks they were crappy almost everyone ...


              It’s then the guard units fought on our Shermans. Guardsmen have always been given a bit more rigorous
        4. +4
          12 July 2016 13: 19
          Quote: Simpsonian
          The English tanks were crappy, and if so, something was wrong then with him ...

          Matilda had powerful armor protection and with her 40-mm cannon could make holes in all tanks of the Wehrmacht of the beginning of the war, Churchill had 152 mm forehead for all the flaws - not every German cannon took it, it came in handy near Kursk, Valentine was loved for reliability and unpretentiousness.
          1. -3
            12 July 2016 16: 36
            you have forgotten to describe the advantages of the American "Lee-Grant"

            only valentine was worth something for intelligence
            1. +2
              13 July 2016 01: 02
              Quote: Simpsonian
              you have forgotten to describe the advantages of the American "Lee-Grant"

              only valentine was worth something for intelligence

              Lee Grant was a transitional machine, the Americans always said that. He was replaced by Sherman.
              Valentine had armor thicker than thirty-four. Its 57 mm cannon right up to Kursk was a formidable weapon.
              1. -1
                13 July 2016 02: 43
                with this "formidable weapon" on it in reconnaissance and went
          2. -1
            12 July 2016 17: 37
            Matilda could only fight in the south and in the summer. Since 1943, the British asked more than that ... ma not to send
            1. -1
              12 July 2016 19: 15
              Quote: Pissarro
              Since 1943, the British were asked

              And what is not from the 45th? And in 41-42 it means they asked? And then what instead of "Matilda" did they ask?
              1. -1
                12 July 2016 20: 21
                yeah, as many as 18 took part in the battle on the Kursk Bulge. laughing
                1. +2
                  12 July 2016 23: 10
                  There were more Cherchels.
                  1. -2
                    13 July 2016 02: 45
                    Behind the English Channel
            2. 0
              12 July 2016 23: 07
              Especially when you consider that in 1943 they were discontinued
              1. 0
                13 July 2016 02: 45
                but didn’t send for remelting
            3. +1
              13 July 2016 01: 04
              Quote: Pissarro
              Matilda could only fight in the south and in the summer. Since 1943, the British asked more than that ... ma not to send

              They sent us what we asked. And not vice versa.
              The British shared the weapons that they used themselves.
              1. -1
                13 July 2016 02: 47
                Which they especially needed ... and beyond the ditch.
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  4. +3
    12 July 2016 08: 03
    Pauline thanks for the article, but stuff is gathered, not for one article. And about auto and aircraft assembly plants and ways of delivering goods to the USSR. Fighting German agents in Iran, who tried to disrupt the supply of goods to the USSR. And how not only pilots- peregonschiki, and combat pilots drove airplanes to the airfields of the USSR. The same A.I., Pokryshkin with his fellow soldiers distilled airplanes from Iran, for his division.
  5. +1
    12 July 2016 08: 23
    Thanks. The topic is interesting.
  6. +2
    12 July 2016 08: 40
    Deliveries from the United States were made on the basis of a previously concluded SovietGerman 1937 year agreement. .


    SovietAmerican 1937 agreement.
    The question of the role of the Lend-Lease Persian corridor in certain successes of the Red Army in the southern direction of the Soviet-German front during the Great Patriotic War is quite debatable. Study of this problem was not a priority in Soviet historiography: the reason for this was the ideological principles of the Cold War period. Research interest in it manifested itself in the post-Soviet period.


    And in vain: the military is extremely interesting operation "CONSENT"(1941), as a result of which the Soviet, British and American troops occupied Iran. This made it possible to organize Iranian supplies to the USSR.
    And after all, no one in the West is shouting — as about Poland — that two aggressors have torn the country apart (it is clear to everyone that this was necessary).
    This would poke the "partners". Yes
    1. -3
      12 July 2016 14: 45
      Quote: Aleksander
      And after all, no one in the West is shouting — as about Poland — that two aggressors have torn the country apart (it is clear to everyone that this was necessary).

      Apparently, except for Dzhugashvili, who by the end of the war made attempts not to leave Iran, and even managed to create "puppet governments" of the "Minsk-Finnish" type there before the Soviet-Finnish war.
      1. +2
        12 July 2016 15: 10
        Quote: Mother CheeseEarth
        Dzhugashvili, who by the end of the war made an attempt to not leave Iran

        The USSR did come out, but the British remained and -bought, created, etc.: ALL states do so, if they have the strength and means.
        1. -1
          12 July 2016 15: 20
          Quote: Aleksander
          The USSR did come out, but the British remained and bought, created, etc.: ALL states do this if they have the strength and means.

          The USSR did not come out, he was "politely asked" and he understood everything.
          And the UK can be said there initially and was, because as you correctly write, "bought and created" like everyone else normal state, and not "dispossessed and repressed" as the Union of the Repressed.
  7. +3
    12 July 2016 08: 43
    Interesting article. The impression was made by the amount of equipment delivered.
  8. +3
    12 July 2016 12: 35
    In Iran, even the PCA was collected, though the trunks were received from the USSR.
  9. +4
    12 July 2016 15: 01
    Quote: Simpsonian
    Mostly, the products of Indian automobile plants went through Iran under their own power.

    You are wrong: car assembly plants were built on the Iranian coast, where engineers were Americans and British, and local workers. 3 / 4 of all delivered cars were delivered through Iran. My father participated in the distillation of these cars from the coast to the railway. (Was author platoon) The road was very difficult along mountain streamers.
    Some of them stood near Tabriz, and they, after the delivery of cars, reached the coast under their own power on the way.
    My father told me about life in Iran. And since the spring of 43 by 45 at the front, he reached Berlin.
  10. -8
    12 July 2016 15: 14
    On November 7, 1941, the USA extended the Lend-Lease Act to the USSR. Having adopted a trilateral law, the parties also determined the ways of delivering military-economic assistance to the territory of the Soviet Union.

    We have all read this phrase 1000 times, but how many have understood it correctly, being held captive by "Bolshevik dogmas and definitions"?
    But what does it really mean?
    But in fact, it is high time to admit that there was no Great Patriotic War (especially since all educated people know that the Great Patriotic War in Russia was originally called the First World War !!!) TWO Soviet-German War.
    The first Soviet-German Bolshevik leadership was blown with a bang almost in less than 3 months, having lost almost the entire army and vast territories with industry.
    The second Soviet-German began inseparably from the First Soviet-German after the USA and Great Britain entered the war on the side of the USSR, and the result of this entry was the organization of "active defense" along the borders of the 1SG in the first phase, and the breakthrough of this defense in the second phase, in parallel with the immediate US and UK participation in hostilities.
    1. +2
      12 July 2016 22: 19
      Quote: Mother CheeseEarth
      But in fact, it is high time to admit that there was no Great Patriotic War (especially since all educated people know that the Great Patriotic War in Russia was originally called the First World War !!!) but there were TWO Soviet-German Wars.

      What a fat inept trolling. Sit down, five, tomorrow at school with your parents! And take your finger out of your nose - you break it. laughing
    2. 0
      17 July 2016 23: 18
      You would have wrapped this pickled grass in paper from a book in which such nonsense had been read. The mixture will turn out just excellent.
    3. 0
      12 January 2017 20: 17
      Here I have not read this yet laughing laughing laughing
      Thesis has not written? And what - there will be a new word in history! Nosovsky and Fomenko will rest !!!
  11. +6
    12 July 2016 15: 45
    To get acquainted with the theme of the war on Lend-Lease tanks - I recommend a well-known book

    Loza Dmitry Fedorovich
    Tanker on a "foreign car"
    Publisher's abstract: Hero of the Soviet Union Dmitry Fyodorovich Loza as part of the 46th Guards Tank Brigade of the 9th Guards Tank Corps traveled thousands of kilometers along the roads of war. Starting to fight in the summer of 1943 near Smolensk on the Matilda tanks, in the fall he moved to the Sherman tank and reached Vienna. Four tanks on which he fought burned down, and two were seriously damaged, but he survived and participated with his corps in the war against Japan, where he passed through the sands of the Gobi, Mount Khingan and the plains of Manchuria. In this book, the reader will find talented descriptions of combat episodes, the life of tankers "foreign cars", the advantages and disadvantages of American tanks and much more.
    (M .: Yauza, Eksmo, 2005.)

    A very informative book http://militera.lib.ru/memo/russian/loza_df/index.html
    1. -2
      12 July 2016 16: 33
      to read laziness, an audiobook would
      1. 0
        12 July 2016 23: 18
        Quote: Gamer
        to read laziness, an audiobook would

        I'm not a fan of audio books, but somewhere in the online library came across
        Quote: DimerVladimer
        To get acquainted with the theme of the war on Lend-Lease tanks - I recommend a well-known book

        Yes! The book is interesting! There is another interesting book: M. Kolomiets. "On the Tigers" to Berlin.
        Trophy tanks in the Red Army.http: //alternathistory.livejournal.com/382525.html
      2. +1
        14 July 2016 21: 42
        Better comics laughing
    2. +4
      12 July 2016 16: 39
      A minus for what?
      For a link to the veteran's memories?
      A strange public on the site ...
      1. +2
        12 July 2016 16: 46
        on the site it’s in the order of things, many people don’t evaluate your information, but they liked it or not, don’t pay attention
      2. 0
        12 July 2016 19: 05
        Let the reaction of the idiots not bother you. It is good that there are not so many of them.
    3. +1
      12 July 2016 17: 18
      The book is super. Many myths about lendlysis and its technique are shifting.
  12. -4
    12 July 2016 15: 50
    There is no doubt - without Lendlis the USSR would have lost the war
    1. -1
      12 July 2016 16: 08
      ... if we compare the size of supplies of industrial goods by the Allies in the USSR to the size of industrial production at the socialist enterprises of the USSR for the same period, it turns out that the share of these supplies in relation to domestic production during the war economy will be only about 4%.

      - Voznesensky N. The military economy of the USSR during World War II - Moscow: Gospolitizdat, 1948


      Regarding weapons, I can say the following. According to Lend-Lease from the USA and England, we received about 18 thousand aircraft, more than 11 thousand tanks. Of the total number of weapons that the Soviet people equipped their army during the war years, Lend-Lease deliveries averaged 4 percent. Consequently, the decisive role of supply is not necessary. As for the tanks and planes that the British and American governments supplied us, frankly, they were not popular with our tankers and pilots

      G.K. Zhukov. Memoirs and reflections. Chapter 23: The Potsdam Conference. Control Board for German Management


      4 percent does not affect anything. In addition, all this "help" went AFTER the Barbarossa plan collapsed near Moscow, that is, there was no talk of defeat, it was about how soon we would win. So we admit, without this Lend Lease, the war would last 4 percent longer smile
      1. +5
        12 July 2016 16: 19
        Zhukov, of course, is a mega-authority, and after his words nothing needs to be investigated. But a couple of touches. Foreign military equipment began to appear already near Moscow. Four percent is the total cost of production taken from the ceiling. And it would be weak to fight without aluminum for tank engines, without walkie-talkies, without cable and field phones, without 10% of tanks and 15% of planes, without gasoline, by the way, which they did at US-supplied factories, without food that ours demanded to the detriment of equipment and without gunpowder by the way, which you can also read from Zhukov. And the fact that Zh Ukov wrote for the sake of agitprop during the Cold War is written for smart people who understand.
        1. +1
          12 July 2016 16: 23
          here you are distributing an agitprop of the opposite side of the Cold War, why should we trust you, and not Zhukov and other participants in this war?

          Clever just understand
          1. +2
            12 July 2016 17: 15
            There are enough signals for those smart in Zhukov’s text, but you obviously didn’t try to search. All that I have listed is set forth in many articles, just study. Fools, let it be love stuffing about 4%
            1. -2
              12 July 2016 17: 34
              all your articles from one manual of the State Department. I can tell you a commensurate number of articles about the real benefits of Lend Lease. What is the point? Your task is different
              1. +3
                12 July 2016 18: 58
                Of course. State Department, CIA, World backstage. Sleep further. Pleasant dreams. You cannot name anything. Your religion of knowledge does not imply. Grabs of faith
              2. -1
                14 July 2016 17: 39
                Quote: Pissarro
                all your articles from one manual of the State Department.


                fifth column (tm) burn them, traitors !!! (c) Bandera of any nationality
            2. +1
              12 July 2016 19: 25
              Quote: Kenneth
              There are enough signals for smart people in Zhukov’s text

              Yes, on every corner. For example, his legendary "victory" at Khalkin Gol, he is there and how many "sabers" the Japanese write, and how many losses they write (albeit selectively), and even reads letters from the Japanese, but about his losses, and even about the exact number of their troops "for some reason" does not write. Doesn’t he know his losses, or "something" hides?
              1. 0
                14 July 2016 17: 40
                Quote: Mother CheeseEarth
                even about the exact number of his troops "for some reason" does not write


                18000 their losses, but what?
                It’s clear that there are no brains - Google is banning. but where did you get the idea that you have to shout out loud about your lack of brains?
              2. Fat
                +1
                24 July 2016 03: 27
                Quote: Mother CheeseEarth
                Quote: Kenneth
                There are enough signals for smart people in Zhukov’s text

                Yes, on every corner. For example, his legendary "victory" at Khalkin Gol, he is there and how many "sabers" the Japanese write, and how many losses they write (albeit selectively), and even reads letters from the Japanese, but about his losses, and even about the exact number of their troops "for some reason" does not write. Doesn’t he know his losses, or "something" hides?

                No. It hints that the USSR NOT A SINGLE MILITARY CONFLICT WAS NOT DONE WITHOUT HEAVY HUMAN LOSSES. Zhukov is not a "commoner" but the concept of "Aesop's language" is definitely familiar to him. Total: the more "corners" the narrative has ... The more accurate the numbers, the higher the "degree of lie". Among other things, good advice to you. The words of the witness participating in the events do not always correspond to the secretary's transcript, the secretary's transcript does not correspond to the true audiogram (magnetic or other recording) of the conversation. Question. Who submitted Marshal Zhukov's "manuscript" for publication? When was the memoir published? And I have not seen ANY recordings where GKZh voices the letters of the Japanese aggressors in Japanese (nihongo or kokugo). Maybe someone did the translations?
        2. +3
          12 July 2016 16: 27
          and 23 machines to the heap
        3. +2
          12 July 2016 19: 19
          Quote: Kenneth
          And it would be weak to fight without aluminum for tank engines, without walkie-talkies, without cable and field phones, without 10% of tanks and 15% of planes, without gasoline, by the way, which they did at US-supplied factories, without food that ours demanded to the detriment of equipment and without gunpowder

          Really. If the average "amateur 4 percent" is locked in a room with a computer, but without electricity (the cost of which will not even make one percent of the cost of a computer), will he write many comments about the fact that "one percent is not important"?
      2. +1
        13 July 2016 01: 12
        18 aircraft and 000 tanks is not 11%.
    2. 0
      12 July 2016 18: 33
      Quote: Gamer
      There is no doubt - without Lendlis the USSR would have lost the war


      Confidence of the layman.
      1. 0
        12 July 2016 18: 52
        Confidence of the layman.


        even if you harness all the wise men like you into the wagons, you still can’t replace 427 thousand cars obtained by Lend-Lease.
        And if the same professionals put on the stew is unlikely to get 2077 million cans. hi
        1. -2
          13 July 2016 04: 45
          There were not so many drivers in the Red Army, and Mongolia sent more meat.

          The Germans had nothing to replace the American motor oil, empty cans from which Soviet soldiers in German positions came across as often as from under the "Tulip" stew, so no one had any illusions about what they were doing in the Second World War.
    3. +1
      12 July 2016 22: 29
      Quote: Gamer
      There is no doubt - without Lendlis the USSR would have lost the war

      When the Lend-Lease flywheel spun up and deliveries became truly significant (and this is the 1943 year), the USSR alone survived and turned the tide of the war. As of July 1943, only less than 1 / 3 of the total volume of aid under the lend-lease was delivered. The rest of 2 / 3 went in 1944-45 years, and part came after 9 on May 1945 years. Therefore, the USSR not only did not lose the war without Lend-Lease, but was also able to turn the tide of this war. Lend-lease means a lot to our victory, I am not inclined to underestimate the role of allies. But the role of Lend-Lease is primarily important in the early conclusion of the war. Without this help, the war would not end on May 9 of the 45 year, but later. And these are the lives of our soldiers, the lives of Germans, including civilians. Lend-Lease deliveries saved thousands of people, helping to quickly end this terrible war against stubborn fascists, who had to surrender their minds in the autumn of 1943. But they rested against the last, although everyone had obvious evidence of the senselessness of this resistance. And so, the USSR would have won without Lendlis necessarily, but it would have been given to us even more victims.
      1. 0
        12 July 2016 23: 19
        In fact, you are wrong in principle. In 41 42 years, the USSR fought on old stocks against the Germans who had no stocks at all and the economy was not transferred to military tracks. Then the Germans began to develop military production, with a higher quality than us and with a large machine park. Without Lend-Lease, especially materials and machines, we would not be able to maintain an advantage in the field of technology. And also gasoline, additives, walkie-talkies and trucks and much more necessary for the offensive. And of course the bombing that forced regular restoration of factories and production.
        1. -1
          13 July 2016 04: 52
          Factories did not bomb ... residential areas bombed. And besides motor oil in the Reich for a half price there was still a lot to sell without which he could not fight the USSR since 1942. In the USSR, on the contrary, the Brazilian varnish supplied to the Nazis did not supply duralumin at all. With Ulyuka, they refused for any money ... Because of this, the USSR did not have all-metal aircraft.
    4. -1
      14 July 2016 17: 38
      Quote: Gamer
      There is no doubt - without Lendlis the USSR would have lost the war


      would not lose - such a geography will not allow anyone to conquer the country.
      but would fall into a coma, such as Chinese - yes, it’s easy
    5. 0
      16 November 2016 13: 45
      Oh you ... wassat multiple, but CLEAR ...
      And, probably, if the Allies had not landed in Normandy - the Red Army and Berlin would not have taken ...
  13. +2
    12 July 2016 19: 45
    Grandfather drove students during the war years from Murmansk. It was hard work. The leather jacket that went with him in the 80s he was wearing. The whole grandfather was completely frostbitten. It was very cold to drive them. The frostbitten ear stuck out even at the age of 90. Therefore, honor and praise to our motorists. But it was easier to drive from Iran. Warmer is definitely.
    1. 0
      14 July 2016 17: 43
      Quote: Signaller
      Therefore, honor and praise to our motorists


      well ... then the British and American sailors who brought it all to Murman are more honored. did not die for themselves, for the sake of helping an ally
  14. +2
    12 July 2016 21: 42
    A lot of difficulties were caused by the lend-lease transport system. A big problem was the timely training of drivers for automotive columns, which were transported from the ports of the Persian Gulf to the Caspian Sea. Sometimes we had to drive up to two thousand cars a month. This issue was resolved after the organization of short courses of drivers recruited from among the local population.

    My grandfather in 1942. drove cars from Iran (then transferred to the front). He was the commander of a car platoon. By the way, he spoke very well about American technology. Although Americans hated abruptly than most of this site laughing
    So, he complained about the very poor training of ordinary drivers. Often coffin of foreign cars improper operation.
    1. 0
      12 July 2016 23: 40
      Quote: Normal ok
      So, he complained about the very poor training of ordinary drivers. Often coffin of foreign cars improper operation.

      I worked with a man who worked as a minder all his life. During the war, he had to repair engines from Lend-Lease cars. According to him, the absence or lack of imported fuel and lubricants often led to the failure of cars and it was not worth blaming drivers indiscriminately. drivers in those years were quite high-quality. When passing the right, at least 50% of the questions concerned the arrangement and repair of the car. I know this well, since in 1968, before graduating from school, we passed the right to the traffic police. The questions for us guys and for other drivers who came for a retake for different reasons were the same. The difference was that we could only get rights when we were 18 years old.
  15. -1
    12 July 2016 22: 54
    [quote = Pissarro] [quote] So, admit, without this land lease, the war would have lasted 4 percent longer smile[/ Quote]
    And 4% more Soviet people would die ... So?
    1. -4
      13 July 2016 01: 18
      [quote = dzvero] [quote = Pissarro] [quote] So we admit that without this land lease the war would have lasted 4 percent longer smile[/ Quote]
      And 4% more Soviet people would die ... So? [/ Quote]
      Well, there is not 4%, but 20 percent.
      You're right, 20 percent more people would have died. Not 27 'but 000 ... but we have our own Soviet pride.
      1. -1
        13 July 2016 15: 55
        If the United States didn’t supply strategic materials to the Reich, the Soviet victims would end in 1942, but we stubbornly do not want to notice this
      2. 0
        14 July 2016 17: 45
        Quote: Beefeater
        Not 27 but 000


        27 out of 16 million dead are civilians killed by Germans, starved to death, from diseases, etc. implies that the Germans would have killed more?
  16. Fat
    0
    24 July 2016 02: 54
    The article put a plus. BUT! The corridor is good. The main thing is HOW this corridor was organized. The troops of the USSR and Great Britain invaded the territory of the "sovereign shah", brought to power a prudent heir and ensured the "neutrality" of Shah Reza Pahlavi in ​​spite of the pro-German sentiments of the father. Comrade Tolbukhin knew his business very tightly and "a friendly corridor along Persia was provided. When you look at the smiling faces in the photographs of our soldiers and the" indestructible "T-26, BT-7, Red Army men proudly squeezing SVT on the streets of Tehran in September 1941. .. you never think .... WHAT year was it ... Everything was paid for in blood ... Not only our people, but also the "dastardly colonizers - the British" and of course the Iranians who tried to prove to the world that they have the right to live without the "high patronage "... Thank you, Polina, for the topic ... But ... How did you think of it? The Persian Corridor is a full-fledged military operation, and not the subsequent numbers on" Felix "... And there was also oil, an obedient heir ... that's probably why lemongrass stayed there for "over-limit" 20 years ...
    Topic unsolved! FAIL. For referring to the topic - "+"
  17. 0
    26 December 2016 12: 12
    an ambiguous little article --- the report of the 5GV commander is widely known. TB. Colonel Shurenkov who is able to knock a tear out of the stone "... the better and bolder we fight, the more stubbornly we are supplied with unusable English Valentines." Well, further complaints that the neighboring 52 TB receives exclusively domestic tanks, and it would not be at all bad to send brigade "... a dozen T-34, or T-70, at worst ... BT-7"
  18. 0
    12 August 2018 09: 32
    This text was entirely stolen by P. Efimova from another work by a historian, a bibliographic reference to the present author is Medvedev M.V. ON THE ROLE OF THE LAND-LIZ PERSIAN CORRIDOR IN OPERATIONS IN THE SOUTH OF THE USSR IN 1942–1944. // South of Russia and neighboring countries in wars and armed conflicts Materials of the All-Russian scientific conference with international participation. Federal Agency for Scientific Organizations, Russian Academy of Sciences, Southern Scientific Center, Institute for Social, Economic and Humanitarian Research (Rostov-on-Don, June 22-25, 2016). 2016.S. 288-293.

    The actions of P. Efimova - plagiarism of intellectual work, entails a violation of several parts of "Article 146. Violation of copyright and related rights" of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.