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Old Biden - Putin's Stirlitz?

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Maybe it was just Biden’s stupidity, senility in old age, pulled the old man to frankness, and finally vanity leaped out. On the other hand, such cards open when the game is played, and nothing can be done about it. So, here is the recognition of US Vice President Joe Biden (on the eve of the NATO summit in Warsaw!) To the American media: "The main interest for us was the Crimea, which was controlled by Kiev before 2014. This region could serve as an excellent military base for NATO and the US troops directly ". Notice: "was and could serve" in the past tense ...

Old Biden - Putin's Stirlitz?


So Biden gave a terrible secret, which Vladimir Putin immediately pointed out: after all, Nuland cookies (and 5 billion dollars in addition) and the entire “revolution” revolution — all this was for the deployment of the American base in the Crimea!

I’m guilty that Biden was, voluntarily or involuntarily, Putin’s agent, of course, Putin, who immorally, with the help of “polite people,” took advantage of Biden’s strategic plan, instead of not using it, ’scandalous statement source in the State Department, who wished to remain anonymous.

Maybe conscience spoke to Biden? No, it’s possible, on this spot since the days of the “lighthouse of the revolution” by Saakashvili in Georgia, a burdock has grown up with Biden. Rather, the recognition of Biden is still a recognition of the outgoing "lame duck", he doesn’t care ... And finally, he decided to make a last sensation, or someone in the White House of Washington to pinch his nose ... The Ukrainian Party is already lost, so you can open such cards!

Biden fully endorsed the competence of Lyndon LaRouche, an American Star Wars analyst who, immediately after the start of the coup in Kiev in 2014, said that the United States is organizing a "giant provocation in Ukraine to break Russia." Moreover, with the help of the coup, Washington brought Bandera neo-Nazis to power in Ukraine, why? Perhaps the State Department was preparing the fate of the “independent” Kosovo for the Crimea, then preparing to defend the “Crimean Republic” from the neo-Nazi threat from Kiev?

Why does Washington need a military base in Crimea? - the principled pacifists are still perplexed. To control the Black Sea, and not only: from the Crimean mountains, the United States could shoot rockets all over the south of Russia right up to Volgograd .... However, Russia "politely" sent the United States to the Crimea, and then responded with an ISIL blow to the Russian Aerospace Forces turned out to be ... "moderate opposition" of Washington.

The NATO Summit in Warsaw, after Biden’s confession, evokes a mixed feeling. It is obvious that the vice-president of the United States does not care about him, he doesn’t betray this summit. And I remember another summit, the European Union, also fateful, and in the neighborhood, in Vilnius ... At which Yanukovych sent the European Union with European association, and the European Union with NATO and the US, the three, then sent Yanukovych to Maidan ... Work unprofessionally, - noted it is Putin, and he put a polite mate in Ukraine to all "fighters for Bandera". Judging by the Warsaw Summit, they still don’t see it there ...

The Warsaw Summit is Obama's farewell party, which is also a "lame duck", and therefore the Warsaw Summit will inevitably be "lame." The summit can send curses to Russia, but nothing can be done. Neither Ukraine nor Syria, but Donald Trump came to the USA ...

No matter how the elections in the USA end, Trump, and, most importantly, his team, split her country and her elite. This split will make itself felt in any case, and in foreign policy, too. The time of Bidens, when they could, behind their backs, the puppet president, at their own discretion, arrange coups all over the world, and to appoint their “bitch sons” as vice presidents, passed. Biden admitted, probably because he understands this, so neither Obama nor his farewell tour in Warsaw is completely important.

Tomorrow, Obama will become a Chicago lawyer in the depths of American ores. Nothing and nothing. Generally American история says that every fourth president of the United States is being killed. Obama is the fourth ... The title of President in the US is for life, so Obama should remember this American tradition.

By the way, the assessment of the Warsaw summit will be put forward by Russia at the Russia-NATO meeting. Despite all the threats, NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg is somehow counting on a dialogue with Russia. Of course, from a position of strength, only all decisions of the summit are of a recommendatory nature. That is, the allies talked, but decided nothing essentially, and repeated the former Minsk spells. After all, Moscow refuses to resume talks in the Minsk format, which is why the Russia-NATO summit has become so important.

Moscow refuses to conduct gas negotiations, in the same European format, that is, it repeats its position: pay back money, and no problems. This, in fact, is called "polite refusal" with the simultaneous tightening of the nuts. What will he say - we will soon find out ...

In general, contracts for the supply of gas to Europe end in 2020, and, symbolically, gas pipelines to China should be built by the same time. They are being built now "without noise and dust" in the media. A pipeline to China is being built. "Power of Siberia" and others: you can't be forcibly nice, goodbye, Europe! Soon you will be completely independent of Russia!
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  1. Motherland Russia
    Motherland Russia 11 July 2016 05: 57
    +3
    As in a fairy tale - "Keep your mouth shut on someone else's spine."
    1. Lyton
      Lyton 11 July 2016 06: 40
      +41
      Biden opened his eyes to us anew, otherwise we didn’t know what they wanted, this is only great news for the hard-nosed people in Kiev.
      1. BYV
        BYV 11 July 2016 11: 18
        -4
        Interesting, and the link to the source is? Everywhere they post the same news. It smacks of fake.
        1. kotvov
          kotvov 11 July 2016 12: 16
          +12
          Interestingly, but is there a link to the source? Everywhere they post the same news. It smacks of fake. ,,
          and you ask why the Americans were repairing schools in Crimea. prepared lists of apartments for lodging. and all this before the Maidan.
          1. BYV
            BYV 11 July 2016 12: 24
            +2
            If you notice, I was interested in this specific statement by Biden. When, in which edition, link. I couldn’t google it myself. There is no source.
            1. BYV
              BYV 11 July 2016 14: 10
              -5
              Is critical thinking missing as a class? Easier to poke a minus than a link?
              1. potroshenko
                potroshenko 11 July 2016 17: 24
                -8
                Yes, the fake is icteric. Plebs are fed this rotten borsch, and they are glad.
              2. Ivan Zadunaisky
                Ivan Zadunaisky 11 July 2016 21: 04
                +4
                And you’re not turning on critical, but on logical thinking. Think about why the US has invested billions of dollars in the overthrow of legitimate (albeit thieving) power.
                1. BYV
                  BYV 12 July 2016 00: 32
                  +2
                  Respected! You guess all the letters, but cannot name the word. I asked which particular US news agency Biden made such a statement. If I write that in the Mongolian media they write that you have a green tail, you will demand a proof, will you?
                  And yes, thanks for opening my eyes to the situation in Ukraine.
        2. Asadullah
          Asadullah 11 July 2016 21: 48
          +10
          It smacks of fake.


          This "fake" is a hundred years old at lunchtime. The first signs appeared during the division of the Black Sea Fleet in the nineties. The Americans were then convinced of the possibility of a mutiny in the navy, so they decided to act more subtly, not demanding the immediate release of Sevastopol. The naval officers will confirm how the Ukrainians quietly seized the Crimea. 90% of combat-ready troops were stationed in the Crimea. The question is, why? And then, to throw out the RF Armed Forces by force at the X-hour, when, for some reason, at least one of the agreements is terminated. With the support of the Americans, of course. All their joint teachings, rehearsed this scenario. Russia then wiped it off and lazily began to build a base in Novorossiysk, there is no need to even explain what it is when NATO forces are deployed in Crimea. Crimea is the key, even more. This event has yet to be digested for thirty years. Even if suddenly, Putin stabs and eats Gozman, I will bow to Vladimir until my last breath. Well, to all Crimeans.

          That’s what I don’t understand, the author’s surprise. For twenty years, only the lazy did not speak about the Crimea as the upcoming deployment of the Americans.
          1. BYV
            BYV 12 July 2016 00: 38
            +1
            Thank you so much for your excursion into history! Now I felt enlightenment descend on me!
            But I asked about something else:
            If you notice, I was interested in this specific statement by Biden. When, in which edition, link.

            Can you read?
    2. Ivan Slavyanin
      Ivan Slavyanin 11 July 2016 07: 25
      +11
      No! It’s like in American films at the last minute, when it seems to the villain that he won, then he tells his plans and decisions, and then ..... bang ..... and everything turns against him.
      Yes, a funny revelation from Biden's grandfather! Only it was no secret, except for Ukrainians.
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 11 July 2016 13: 01
      +17
      Yanukovych signed an agreement with Russia on a fleet in Sevastopol for 40 billion dollars. And they received a 30% discount on gas dancing from us for transit to Europe. At the same time, they brazenly threw gas and refused to pay constantly. Even before the Maidan, Yanukovych Americans were putting enormous pressure on the denunciation of the agreement on Crimea. There were attempts to call American warships in Sevastopol, if anyone remembers. Everything went according to plan, but Putin broke their schedule. Now the money saved on the contract is enough for the construction of the bridge and so on.
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 11 July 2016 06: 02
    +49
    Offer: Monument to Biden, Nuland and others like them in Sevastopol. "To fighters for our freedom, from grateful Crimeans"
    1. Niko-zhukov
      Niko-zhukov 11 July 2016 06: 16
      +16
      Right! And invite them to the grand opening of the monument;)
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 11 July 2016 06: 44
        +15
        Before visiting Nuland, carefully check that she would not bring the livers. "Pastry chef" is still the same .....
        1. midivan
          midivan 11 July 2016 08: 11
          +2
          Quote: Kos_kalinki9
          Before visiting Nuland, carefully check that she would not bring the livers. "Pastry chef" is still the same .....

          I think the STC will prepare for such an event
    2. mad
      mad 11 July 2016 06: 21
      +36
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Offer: Monument to Biden, Nuland

      Is it not tall ... So that you can come up and spit in these nasty faces! I will definitely come)
      1. Delink
        Delink 11 July 2016 07: 39
        +8
        And next to put a monument to a large Manneken Pis on them.
        All this is located in a pool resembling a puddle of urine.
      2. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 11 July 2016 08: 42
        +5
        Is it not tall ... So that you can come up and spit in these nasty faces! I will definitely come)
        Suitable for your description ... URNA! But it is also possible in the style of modern European trends in "art" - a toilet.
      3. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 11 July 2016 10: 26
        +4
        Quote: mad
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Offer: Monument to Biden, Nuland

        Is it not tall ... So that you can come up and spit in these nasty faces! I will definitely come)

        I imagine a little differently. Statues in bronze, in the height of a man. You can also get a fig in his nose with his right hand. And in the photo. Nuland, of course with a basket, just empty. And grateful Crimeans will put cookies in it, which doves love, which even more grateful will return them to Nuland's head.
        Bronze, do not press so that passers-by will scour the most attractive places.
      4. 97110
        97110 11 July 2016 20: 34
        +1
        Quote: mad
        Is it not tall ...

        Just in the box they said that the next creation Tsereteli is looking for where to stick. Let’s keep silent about the monument for a while, otherwise we’ll make a mistake. There is a crucifix above the South American. And not from shameful concrete, but as expected - bronze!
    3. Ivan Slavyanin
      Ivan Slavyanin 11 July 2016 07: 31
      +40
      He can also be erected a monument - wooden only, so that the face cracked over time.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 11 July 2016 13: 02
        +4
        Quote: Ivan Slavyanin
        He can also be erected a monument - wooden only, so that the face cracked over time.

        From wet larch. And the fact that the Americans paid for the return of the Crimea to Russia indicates the mental development of Barack Obama. The Americans! Do not go into other people's affairs and do not incur losses.
      2. Colleague
        Colleague 11 July 2016 19: 36
        0
        Yes, they bang him like a pig. He is a black man and in a black man
      3. Colleague
        Colleague 11 July 2016 19: 38
        +3
        Resting in the Crimea, and hohlyattsky pancake flag slipped. But what about our Crimea?
    4. HAM
      HAM 11 July 2016 08: 26
      +6
      It’s better to put a monument on the cattle cemetery in Kiev ...
  3. strelets
    strelets 11 July 2016 06: 12
    +3
    Until November is still far. Maybe the lame capons will tell you something else.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 11 July 2016 10: 36
      +8
      Then VO remembered an anecdote about how Stalin did not approve Churchill and Roosevelt as "captains of the universe." So these rat pirates decided: the bobby is dead and you can drag it out of its bowl.
      On the other hand, we just stopped the blatant arrogance. It's time for us to deploy our base in Alaska. Canada can put its brains in place, it may understand that in Europe it has nothing to do. In the US missile defense, pick a clove, it can close ...
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 11 July 2016 14: 19
      +2
      Quote: strelets
      Until November is still far. Maybe the lame capons will tell you something else.

      Elections will only be held in November, and the new president will begin his duties on January 30 of the next year, 2017. So there is still six months ahead. They may not tell you that.
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 11 July 2016 15: 11
        +6
        Viktor Kamenev

        You manage to get good reviews.

        Without crying that the Russian Federation all offend very dishonestly. Somehow nice to read. Written with dignity.
  4. taseka
    taseka 11 July 2016 06: 19
    +6
    There is such a thing - he raised plywood in the woods and under it swept cockroaches and insects! And now they swept! And there’s nothing to say and they look like fools!
  5. Bureaucrat
    Bureaucrat 11 July 2016 06: 22
    +13
    Actually, lately there have been a lot of inconsistencies and disagreements in the camp of the enemies, Britain, the European Union, Poland, Ukraine, mutual watered Mr. ... candidates for the US throne, split by sanctions. It’s not easy for them to see there, a turning point in the brightest phase is coming.
  6. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 11 July 2016 06: 24
    +6
    Yes, we ourselves, without this old fart, realized what kind of pig Russia was in the United States, and they want to put it on it. So they played ahead of the curve.
  7. poma
    poma 11 July 2016 06: 36
    +5
    The article simplifies a lot, but in general everything is true.
  8. Max repp
    Max repp 11 July 2016 06: 44
    +3
    And why is he afraid of the old fart and mrasmatik, as well as they will talk about him and we can speak and invite in various universities and talk shows.
  9. Amurets
    Amurets 11 July 2016 07: 00
    +12
    This is a plus article! But it didn’t open anything for me personally. Because Yushchenko’s 2006 statement about Ukraine’s preparation for Ukraine’s NATO membership was already preparing Crimea for secret transfer of the number of US military bases and blocking of the Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol. I wrote about this more than once in the comments .Moreover, in 2013, in anticipation of the signing of an association agreement with the EU, the Yanukovych government began preparations for the transfer of part of the buildings for NATO troops. .
  10. inkass_98
    inkass_98 11 July 2016 07: 03
    +6
    With the arrival of 2020, nothing will change in Europa's gas supplies, otherwise why try to build the North and South Streams there? It's just that the number of parasites who stupidly receive grandmothers for passing someone else's pipe through their territory will sharply decrease. Hence, so many cries of the future deprived. A turn towards China means diversification of supplies, i.e. exactly the same that Europa is trying to pull off, looking for several different suppliers. Only now, instead of Russia, Germany will become the main villain and distributor of gas goods in the EU and its environs, which is good for us. It will be just as good in the case of the transfer of the gas delivery point to Europa from the western to the eastern border of the Ruins - all demand will be from the hero of the occasion, who stupidly exploited the pipe without investing a dime in its repair.
  11. AKsvlad047
    AKsvlad047 11 July 2016 07: 15
    +4
    This once again confirms their constant lies and our true foreign policy! In this matter, bravo to Putin and our military, who have clearly fulfilled their tasks to ensure the security of the south of our country !!!
  12. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 11 July 2016 07: 17
    +6
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Offer: Monument to Biden, Nuland and others like them in Sevastopol. "To fighters for our freedom, from grateful Crimeans"

    Well this is real. To bury on a belt and to pour bronze paint, it is cheap also to dogs where to raise a hind paw.
  13. 1536
    1536 11 July 2016 07: 28
    +2
    So the mountain gave birth to a mouse? And still anxious. NATO troops in the Baltic states. It is close to our borders. Therefore, the Baltic States will have to isolate. The Russians live there, what will it be like? So, what is next? UN ban on campaigns of our SSBNs in Oken? Or the closure of the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles? Inside the country, the fifth column is simply torn into power by both the regional and the Duma. They will surrender Crimea to the Biden without a single shot, Crimeans will go to the partisans for a long time. Earth will burn under the Americans. So in any case - a war with the United States and Europe?
    Here is the result of the last 25-years and walks in Moscow at the end of the 1980-x - the beginning of the 1990-x.
  14. ovod84
    ovod84 11 July 2016 07: 29
    0
    It is necessary to inflict advance strikes more often in order to stun the enemy and make him make mistakes
  15. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 11 July 2016 07: 38
    +7
    Not a second doubted that it was Crimea that was the target of the United States. This was noticeable by the confusion that the mattresses showed when the referendum took place, and then the decision of Russia ... And the reaction was convulsive and inconsistent. Well, when the Donbass began - the State Department was completely at a loss.
    The old team does not want to recognize the new reality. We threw our "dung" under the next door.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 11 July 2016 12: 17
      +7
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Not a second doubted that it was Crimea that was the target of the United States. This was noticeable by the confusion that the mattresses showed when the referendum took place, and then the decision of Russia ...

      You can’t see the mattresses of Crimea as your ears ... well, perhaps as tourists.
  16. Gurinov Nikolay
    Gurinov Nikolay 11 July 2016 07: 46
    +15
    What a high self-esteem for everyone! We are all Yes. If Uncle Vova hadn’t come to power in 2000, there wouldn’t be Us! Everyone would have been separately. Besides the Americans.
    1. AlexW
      AlexW 11 July 2016 12: 57
      +2
      Quote: Nikolay Gurinov
      What a high self-esteem for everyone! We are all Yes. If Uncle Vova had not come to power in 2000, there would have been Us!

      Uncle Vova was not the only one who made a quiet coup “I'm tired, I'm leaving.” This cannot be done alone. I hope that his entire team will match him. With the Crimea, they gracefully worked in anticipation. And Ukraine and the Ukrainians ... they obviously did not go to the 90s for the future ... they need to get sick and develop immunity from Svidomo and nationalism.
    2. SklochPensioner
      SklochPensioner 11 July 2016 13: 23
      -2
      Well, for whom is Uncle Vova) ...
      Do you regret not walking "under the Americans"?
      Strange you, Nikolay Gurinov.
    3. You Vlad
      You Vlad 12 July 2016 19: 34
      0
      Yes, Uncle Vova will have more than one monument, but hundreds! If we swim out and do not bend down! Tfu tfu
  17. evil partisan
    evil partisan 11 July 2016 08: 11
    0
    gas pipelines to China should be built by the same date. They are being built now "without noise and dust" in the media. Gas pipeline under construction to China "Power of Siberia" and others

    To be honest, I only know about one gas pipeline that is actually being built to China - Power of Siberia. I would like the Author or someone from the competent members of the forum to enlighten about the rest of the construction. For my part, I know that there is an agreement in principle with China on the "Western Route", i.e. turning part of the Yamburg and Urengoy gas to China. But there they did not even agree on a specific pipe route, let alone the timing of putting the pipe into operation ... I heard a conversation about the extension of the Parabel - Kuzbass r \ n to China, but there are only 1 threads of 2 mm each. and they won't make the weather, and the mountains along the way are not frail. So it is unlikely ... so what other gas pipelines are being built to China besides the Power of Siberia? Enlighten! Thanks in advance. hi
    1. alexej123
      alexej123 11 July 2016 09: 04
      +1
      That's all right. They considered (according to the media) the construction of the Altai gas pipeline to China, just one of those fields that "feed" Europe with gas. But somehow it was quiet.
  18. antivirus
    antivirus 11 July 2016 08: 52
    0
    chatting and tossing bags.
  19. Turkir
    Turkir 11 July 2016 08: 52
    +4
    The closer the end of a political career, the more languages ​​are unleashed among American politicians.
    Biden, of course, is conceited and therefore let slip.
    We remember with what pleasure this political idiot sat in the chair of the President of Ukraine, holding meetings in Kiev.
  20. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 11 July 2016 09: 13
    +6
    In order to talk with Russia from a position of strength ... you need at least this force in superior numbers ... to have people ready to sacrifice themselves in the name of ... (well, there are all sorts of European and American values ​​... capital, rights pi ... owls to trade their own ..., substitute their people for emigrants, and so on and so forth ...) Are they in NATO ??? ... are there common values ​​(except for dislike of Russians and Russia) for which they are ready to die ??? ... I think there is nothing there except the interest of money ... and no one is going to die there ... so there can be no talk "from a position of the type of force" ...
    ... I now think that POWER is in TRUTH ... and she is behind RUSSIA
  21. 3vs
    3vs 11 July 2016 09: 22
    +3
    Ilya Glazunov would have lost his picture - "The Return of Crimea"!
    And this riffraff (Biden, Nulonda with cookies, Yatsenyuk powders) somewhere
    in the corner to attach to forever!
  22. aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 July 2016 09: 56
    +1
    Rather, Biden's confession is still the confession of the outgoing "lame duck", he doesn't care ...

    And when he leaves, he will speak! However, like all their ex and ex! laughing
  23. aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 July 2016 09: 59
    0
    The time of the Biden, when they could behind the back of the puppet president, at their own discretion, arrange coups d'etat around the world, and appoint their "son of a bitch" zits presidents, has passed.

    Yes, catch up! Victor, I would not be so categorical in the conclusions about the "leaving" of these biden. In my opinion, it takes a very long time for this. hi
  24. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 11 July 2016 10: 12
    +1
    God grant, the author, God grant. But vague doubts with our "elite" are too tormented.
  25. kind
    kind 11 July 2016 10: 39
    +2
    Crimea Crimea, but this woodpecker, Biden, had his own interest in Ukraine, putting his son as the head of the shale fraud in the Donbass.
  26. rus-b4
    rus-b4 11 July 2016 10: 53
    +4
    It has long been noticed that they give out their confessions much later, when no one remembers how it all began, so the scandal fails and Russia, which was initially assigned to be responsible for it, remains. (as an example, Iraq was bombed in 2003, Blair was scolded, and Saddam remained as he was, the dead do not say)
  27. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 11 July 2016 11: 17
    0
    In vain Ukraine yells about the return of the Crimea.
    Biden’s words officially confirm that if Crimea had not become Russian, it would have been American, but in any case not Ukrainian.
    Panas are fighting, at lackeys forelocks are cracking. Ukrainians only have forelocks cracking, and it is unbeknownst to them that they themselves made slaves.
  28. Arkan
    Arkan 11 July 2016 11: 36
    +2
    It was immediately clear what the Americans wanted. Crimea is not a sunken aircraft carrier of the Black Sea, who controls the Crimea, that controls the sea. New Russia must be returned to the fold of Russia, but this is a long and costly process.
  29. Old warrior
    Old warrior 11 July 2016 12: 10
    0
    What is not clear here? The West wants to destroy Russia once and for all. It is possible that this is his last opportunity. In 1991, they managed to destroy the USSR, but then - who knows ...
  30. K-50
    K-50 11 July 2016 12: 23
    +4
    After all, Moscow refuses to resume negotiations in the Minsk format

    What's the point?
    If not a single decision of this Minsk format has been implemented by Kuev. Gather to talk? So our president and perhaps more importantly there are some things to do than talk more empty and empty. request
  31. cap
    cap 11 July 2016 12: 50
    0
    BYV (1) RU Today, 11:18 ↑ New

    Interesting, and the link to the source is? Everywhere they post the same news. It smacks of fake.


    US Vice President Joy Biden explained to the American media why the US does not recognize Crimea as Russian and insists on the return of the peninsula to Ukraine.

    “The United States is interested in further developing cooperation with Ukraine, just as Ukrainians want to cooperate with the United States.

    The key interest for us is the Crimea, which was controlled by Kiev until 2014. This region could serve as an excellent military base for NATO and the US troops themselves.

    It's no secret that Ukrainians want to join NATO and we are ready to go towards Ukraine in this matter.

    But now this process has been frozen due to the conflict with Russia.

    After the conflict is resolved and Kiev resumes control over all regions, we will begin a dialogue on further Western integration of Ukraine, ”Biden said.

    http://maxpark.com/community/7552/content/5328964
    1. potroshenko
      potroshenko 11 July 2016 17: 21
      +1
      Quote: cap
      maxpark.com/community/7552/content/5328964

      If this is the source, then you are a victim of the exam.
    2. Victor-M
      Victor-M 11 July 2016 19: 55
      -1
      Quote: cap
      BYV (1) RU Today, 11:18 ↑ New

      Interesting, and the link to the source is? Everywhere they post the same news. It smacks of fake.


      US Vice President Joy Biden explained to the American media why the US does not recognize Crimea as Russian and insists on the return of the peninsula to Ukraine.

      “The United States is interested in further developing cooperation with Ukraine, just as Ukrainians want to cooperate with the United States.

      The key interest for us is the Crimea, which was controlled by Kiev until 2014. This region could serve as an excellent military base for NATO and the US troops themselves.

      It's no secret that Ukrainians want to join NATO and we are ready to go towards Ukraine in this matter.

      But now this process has been frozen due to the conflict with Russia.

      After the conflict is resolved and Kiev resumes control over all regions, we will begin a dialogue on further Western integration of Ukraine, ”Biden said.

      http://maxpark.com/community/7552/content/5328964

      Dear Anatoly, in vain you are trying to prove something to them, such links are not in their interests, which means for them it’s just a duck, a fake, Putin’s propaganda.
      1. BYV
        BYV 12 July 2016 19: 25
        +1
        Quote: Victor-M
        such links are not in their interests, which means for them it’s just a duck, a fake, Putin’s propaganda.

        What are "such"? Have you bothered to follow this link? Did you see to which particular US news agency Biden made this statement? Do you even sometimes turn on your brain, or is there nothing but mottos, slogans and cliches? This, if I may say so, "news" is 100% fake. Can't you see how slowly but surely the members of the forum of the once deeply respected by me resource are turning into inhabitants of the censornet? Previously, it was much more interesting for me to read the comments, and not the article itself. What now?
  32. Samoyed
    Samoyed 11 July 2016 13: 05
    0
    But what beautiful words clothe their desires to devour at someone else's expense! You can say - cryptographers, DB!
  33. Romin
    Romin 11 July 2016 13: 58
    0
    ABOUT ! Biden's statement is such a discovery for us! Even no one expected that they want to squeeze out our base from the Crimea!
    And where did our leadership look when our base was squeezed out of Georgia! Forgot?
    And when they put pressure on Azerbaijan to create unacceptable conditions for Gabala! Forgot?
    It was necessary to work with the neighbors! Would it not be about ... then allies and the base!
    I don’t understand what Putin has been doing all these years for such unilateral concessions and fulfillment of the agreements that the staff members have scored!
    After all, it nevertheless became clear from the moment of violation of the agreement with NATO on immobilization to the east!
    And then we have finished it foreign policy to the point that we have profiled Ukraine! Crimea was kept on the verge of a foul. So further Putin continues to pursue a slurred policy in Ukraine. Mediocre! Time is running out, we are losing time! Natsiks grow and multiply, children are taught to hate us. What Putin thinks I do not understand.
    Reached the NATO summit, which adopted a new priority of active deterrence! Putin that he thought that at the summit they would decide to give us credentials. I look at all this and .... c! Guided! Mo-lo-ts!
    1. SklochPensioner
      SklochPensioner 11 July 2016 14: 13
      +1
      Quote: Romin
      What Putin thinks I do not understand.
      Reached the NATO summit, which adopted a new priority of active deterrence! Putin that he thought that at the summit they would decide to give us credentials. I look at all this and .... c! Guided! Mo-lo-ts!

      Romin, where have you been all this time? !!
      You were so lacking in Russia!
      I cry for missed opportunities ...
      Locksmith Polesov you are not a relative?)))
      1. Romin
        Romin 11 July 2016 14: 49
        +2
        But to objectively analyze, something is overshadowing you;)
        No thoughts, only comments work out?
        1. SklochPensioner
          SklochPensioner 12 July 2016 05: 42
          0
          Quote: Romin
          No thoughts, only comments work out?

          Your analytical material (the hand does not rise to label it as "commentary"))) contains two thoughts: 1) Everything is lost; 2) Putin leaked everyone!
          These great thoughts were not given to you easily, judging by some hysterical presentation)
          You did not answer my question, do not like our classics?)
          "Comments are successful" - thanks! I'm glad I liked it)))
  34. Forever so
    Forever so 11 July 2016 14: 58
    +2
    I think that for the same Biden, Crimea, this is secondary, the main thing is to twist your business under the muzzle. Is my son still looking for shale gas ??
  35. You Vlad
    You Vlad 11 July 2016 15: 52
    +2
    There is such a trend in the West! As soon as a politician loses power, he becomes overly adequate, and begins to cut the womb of the truth! What is this connected with? Voter game. The American people are also tired that they keep him for fools and are constantly deceived! When he is seen and again at the feeding trough, his insights leave belay And begins to work for those who pay. drinks
  36. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 11 July 2016 16: 13
    +2
    Yes, since the collapse of the USSR, it was clear to whom it was "on hand". And when presidents, ministers and advisers from the United States "flowed" to Ukraine and the Baltic states (as if people who had just climbed down from the trees live in these countries, and they just couldn't manage their country), and how they began to water the USSR "on the sly", Russia and Russians, it became clear that this would not lead to good. Partially the striped task was completed: all kinds of filth crawled out of all the cracks of the former Union republics, and in Russia itself, feeling the moral, and most importantly - MATERIAL support from "well-wishers-peacemakers", such as Brzezinski, Soros, Biden, etc.
  37. zenith
    zenith 11 July 2016 16: 32
    +2
    Quote: Romin
    Reached the NATO summit, which adopted a new priority of active deterrence! Putin that he thought that at the summit they would decide to give us credentials. I look at all this and .... c! Guided! Mo-lo-ts!

    You are not the only one with this question. The words Russian world, Russians do not abandon their own, unfortunately turned out to be words. What were they thinking asking? Yes, they thought that it would dissolve by itself and be forgotten - version 1, shyly (I almost said s-tno) - version 2, or it was intended that way - version 3. After all, until the striped head raised and started plan "B" growing and producing national scraps on an army scale, it was necessary to pull out the hydra in the bud and really not abandon our own. And now to what they have brought, a Nazi semblance of the country has been created before our eyes (but very tenacious). The striped ones have come to their senses and from any loss other nasty things will spawn, be calm. If you climb vabank, then cut it to the full. And then step forward 2 back - just collect all the nits on yourself. And so it turned out. And we celebrate all tactical victories. All of this could have been avoided with one decisive strategic step. Now Ukraine would be grateful for being rescued in time, instead of the "washed-out" ukrofashland. You either hit or run, you've already heard these cool words somewhere. In short, a big drum with such a "decisive" step is no longer far away. Who needs it, that's the question? I am waiting for explanations v patriots v. They won't let them through, of course, to the sacred and with a question!
    1. bk316
      bk316 11 July 2016 19: 00
      +2
      Quote: zenit
      One decisive strategic step could have avoided all of this.

      Write very pathetic and completely empty.
      "Decisive", "strategic", "all this", "fit to the full", "big drum" WHAT are you ABOUT?
      Graphomania, very reminiscent of trolling.
      For this, and minus.
  38. grandfather Mih
    grandfather Mih 11 July 2016 16: 51
    +2
    The key for these, behind the swamp, is impunity. First they will bring death, torture, poverty, and then: we wanted this, this, but it just so happened and we will have nothing for it. Reminds of a kind of "we have a lot of money, a lot of money" redhead from a corporate party.
  39. zenith
    zenith 11 July 2016 16: 52
    0
    Silent minus V patriots V, only honey. So the thought is true!
  40. Koshak
    Koshak 11 July 2016 17: 26
    0
    Old Biden spoke up - and he himself was skewed? tongue
  41. NikolaiN
    NikolaiN 11 July 2016 17: 44
    +1
    Quote: zenit
    One decisive strategic step could have avoided all of this. There would be grateful Ukraine now

    Everyone imagines himself a strategist, seeing the battle from the side ... If, yes, if only ... it’s easy now to expose.
  42. ksined
    ksined 11 July 2016 17: 47
    -1
    Hey, the author is Comrade Kamenev! What other "American media"? What "some data"? Etc. Is the author a pro on fakes?
    1. BYV
      BYV 11 July 2016 18: 02
      +1
      There is no need to express such seditious thoughts on VO. Zaminusuyut. Unfortunately, the contingent for the last 2 years has changed a lot. Now urapatriotism and similar comments in style are in fashion
      Old Biden spoke up - and he himself was skewed?
      1. You Vlad
        You Vlad 11 July 2016 23: 09
        0
        And what is wrong with patriotism if you have something to be proud of? People are tired of the past, humiliations and disappointments!
        1. BYV
          BYV 12 July 2016 17: 03
          +1
          There is a huge difference between patriotism and urapatriotism. And besides everything else, urapatriotism completely discourages critical thinking, leaving only slogans and hatred in the head. This is just the hypertrophied form of urapatriotism blooming on the remains of the former Ukraine. A sad sight, isn't it?
          1. You Vlad
            You Vlad 12 July 2016 19: 58
            0
            Critical thinking annoyed me, I don’t believe anyone, I doubt everything winked Urapatriotism and fascism are two different things! I am more loyal to the latter between the prowlers and urapatriatism, although they are easier to deceive and use in my own interests! But in general I agree with you. But I will not see anything wrong with ordinary popular patriotism.
  43. pudelartemon
    pudelartemon 11 July 2016 18: 10
    +3
    Remember, as comrade. Saakhov said in "Prisoner of the Caucasus"? The Caucasus, you know, is a smithy, a health resort, and a granary ...
    So it is with Crimea: a health resort, a military base, and an unsinkable aircraft carrier.
    And we all need this stronger than Amers. And most importantly - rightfully belongs.
  44. Viktorbalovnev
    Viktorbalovnev 11 July 2016 19: 32
    0
    Old age is not a joy!
  45. sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 11 July 2016 19: 35
    +2
    You will not be forcibly sweet, goodbye Europe! Soon you will be completely independent from Russia!
    It is high time to give Europe the long-awaited freedom from the supply of resources from Russia !!!
  46. japs
    japs 11 July 2016 22: 08
    +4
    So far, apparently, of all the bedlam that is happening around 404, only Yaytsenyukh turned out to be profitable. And he drove, and laid and safely faded "into the depths of mattress ores."
    I wonder what Biden’s brother, the unforgettable McCain, will say. Also will cut the truth uterus?
  47. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 11 July 2016 22: 38
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    How many evil old men and women have spawned this evil empire !!! Disgusting old men Biden and Brzezinski, disgusting old woman Albright ... Fu, what disgusting !!! As said in the film "The Dog of the Baskervilles" the hero performed by Brondukov.
  48. years
    years 12 July 2016 00: 28
    0
    With math, the author is really bad! In America, every tenth president is killed! ... and not the fourth ....
  49. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 12 July 2016 05: 53
    0
    “Moscow refuses to negotiate gas in the old euro format, that is, it repeats its position: pay money in advance, and no problem. This is actually called a“ polite refusal ”with the simultaneous tightening of the screws. "
    In general, Europeans should definitely fight for all the money in advance. For in financial terms, they are absolutely unreliable and for any reason (and no reason) can generally cover up payment systems. In addition, they put obstacles on Russian securities, on loans, on the work of our banks (in Crimea, Gref is afraid to work: Sberbank will immediately be outlawed all over the world, and that's it - the end of Sberbank and Gref! "
    However, will Russia be allowed to take an advance payment? And then, the State Bank (or Central Bank) of the Russian Federation belongs to the US Federal Reserve. And it does not obey the government, nor the president, nor the Federal Assembly and the Duma. So they allow him to work within the limits in which the United States is profitable: i.e. invest in the sale of raw materials and metals in US payment obligations. And they already owed so much that it would soon be profitable for them to go bankrupt, make a dollar equal to 0,1 kopecks and pay off everyone with the words: I forgive you my debts.
    As for Biden, he is stupid in words, but for financial gain he will cut his throat to almost anyone. So Crimea is Crimea, and nobody canceled business in Ukraine. And other. Clintonsha once said that America does not need Ukraine, but the territory that it occupies. In case of natural disasters such as the Yellowstone, the shift of the California plate into the ocean, and the stops of the Gulf Stream.
    And the American Crimea at that time was supposed to guarantee the military protection of the colonists and the systematic destruction of the descendants of the ancient ukrs, like the Indians in the United States. Of course, "African Americans" and Latinos are hoping to leave in the States ...
  50. Alnair
    Alnair 12 July 2016 07: 36
    -1
    Lord, what kind of garbage was laid out here in VO. In the article - not a single link to normal sources, all the facts are sucked from the toe of the left foot.
    And then they laugh at us, they say, propaganda washed our brains out. Not propaganda brainwashed us, but such would-be "authors" on VO.