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About Turkey. Conscience or all inclusive? Evil Ivan №31 with Ivan Victory

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Hello to all ours and not to ours! I am Ivan Victory and I am angry again today.

Expert: Tour operators are frightened by the mass refusal of Russians from the Crimea and Greece in favor of Turkey

Similar news tumbled out of many liberal and, unfortunately, even illiberal media.
From all sides, we started to blow our ears, that there was an unprecedented, wild demand for Turkey, that it exceeds supply by a factor of 10. What the Russians massively forgot all the insults and began to buy vouchers to Turkish hotels, as the last time.

And many even refused to have already paid trips to Greece, to Cyprus, to Sochi and to the Crimea. And all this for the sake of Turkey. And through all this news a clear hint slips. What are these Russian miserable and insignificant. No memory, no conscience.
In short, shame and shame!
Soc. demotivators filled the nets and blobs about the fact that the Russians exchanged the memory of the dead pilot for Turkish tomatoes. And the collective choir of liberals, nazis and patriots has tightened the duty song about putinslil. And about the fact that I am ashamed to be Russian, well, and so on ...

Let's try to figure it out.
Reconciliation with Turkey happened unexpectedly and swiftly. Rarely it happens in geopolitics. I do not know all the information, but I can guess that a lot of pressing and urgent problems have arisen between Russia and Turkey. Which in the face of tough confrontation simply could not be solved.

Therefore, Turkey quickly uttered a crumpled apology. And Russia quickly accepted them. It is clear that all this was agreed in advance. Technical details on the final reconciliation are still being clarified. I have no doubt that Turkey will pay Russia material compensation in one form or another. In response, Russia lifts a ban on tourists visiting Turkey. The food embargo will also be gradually lifted.
Yeah, those are the tomatoes.

According to the latest data, Turkey refuses to support ISIS and begins to harry terrorists who have previously felt comfortable and carefree in Turkish territory. How serious this is, time will tell.
In the meantime, Russia, of course, will welcome such initiatives.
But we must remember that reputation in geopolitics has been gained for decades. And you can merge it in one day. So, Turkey ruined its reputation. And thoroughly. And in the leadership of Russia, no one else will treat Turkey with the same confidence. And she will no longer be forgiven for the mistakes that Russia had previously turned a blind eye to.

That is, relations between countries will become emphatically polite and businesslike.
There will be no more ardent friendship and causeless generosity. Everything is strictly according to the price list.
I remind you that all this time we were talking about geopolitics. There is no friendship between countries. But there are interests between them. Therefore, reconciliation is beneficial to both Turkey and Russia.

But it's time to return to our ... tourists.
All statements about the wild rage against Turkey made by the Association of Tour Operators of Russia. Which founded the largest Russian travel agencies. And they are selfishly interested in outbound tourism. After all, there is more margin and bonuses. That is, in fact, nothing personal, just business.

No numbers or exact stats. data is not given. Everything is tied to emotions and hints. Like, faster, faster, and throw everything in Turkey, but you do not have time. And tour operators do not care that they are satisfied with the constant terrorist attacks, they do not care for the safety of tourists. For the sake of the dough, they will lie and lure everyone into the insecure Turkey.

Interestingly, and those who want to rest there realize that they can be taken hostage and set up the whole country, or, even worse, die in the next terrorist act? But the probability of such events only increases.

And what do we get by the facts? The number of aircraft to Turkey has not increased. The tourist flow to Turkey physically could not grow in such a short time. Charter flights are just about to launch. And really planning to rest in Turkey did not become more or less. And all these headlines, sensations about the unprecedented demand and rush ... the usual information stuffing and lying.

Real statistics on the autumn will provide us with the Border Service. And only then it will be possible to draw conclusions about how many Russians flocked to the resorts of Turkey, forgetting about their conscience.

And yes, believe in your people and your country. I believe that Russians, of all nationalities, are able to make informed decisions on their own, without instructions from the authorities. I know that the majority of Russians will not go to raise the economy of a hostile state with their money. And Turkey was and remains our enemy.
Therefore, real Russians will not go there to rest. For them, the concept of Honor and Conscience is above the full belly.
See you soon!
And let's come back to Turkey and analyze one stuffing. Tired of the screams of some hmm .. people who misunderstand the situation.

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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 10 July 2016 06: 19
    +29
    For other idiots, conscience and honor do not exist. It seems that they were not allowed to fly to Turkey, but there was bread.
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 10 July 2016 07: 40
      +12
      Truly a wild shriek of joy: "allowed to Turkey !! Returned happiness"
      1. Khariton
        Khariton 10 July 2016 08: 33
        +13
        Those who go to Turkey to relax are a spit on the grave of our deceased pilot! So that they whiskey choked with shawarma there ... am
        1. Haettenschweiler
          Haettenschweiler 10 July 2016 09: 25
          -85%
          Quote: Chariton
          Those who go to Turkey to relax are a spit on the grave of our deceased pilot!


          That is, to m ... a duck who sent this pilot to a foreign country in general, there are no questions?
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 10 July 2016 11: 29
            +19
            Are you talking about your curator Obamka Ibrahimovic?
            1. Haettenschweiler
              Haettenschweiler 10 July 2016 14: 24
              -36%
              Quote: 30 vis
              Are you talking about your curator Obamka Ibrahimovic?


              Silent Obama, already and the Russian Aerospace Forces decides - decides who and where to send. Or is it that you so clumsy tried to cheat on me, not really thinking about the meaning of your words?
              1. the monastery
                the monastery 12 July 2016 21: 24
                0
                you are the LAWKER
            2. PHANTOM-AS
              PHANTOM-AS 11 July 2016 01: 30
              +6
              They puffed their cheeks, scared the Erdogashka from the high stands with "acts" and "actions", the talking heads from the zombie box trolled the Turks, the plebs are happy - now he does not give us a new enemy to live with, even from the kaklov they lagged behind for a while, then they blew, blew III kaaaaaaaaaak farted.
              Like, "we would be the enemy on the horns, only ...."
              Well done was Korney Ivanovich!
          2. vadsonen
            vadsonen 10 July 2016 15: 03
            +6
            That is, to m ... a duck who sent this pilot to a foreign country in general, there are no questions?

            There are a lot of questions to him, but they are not connected with Syria.
          3. larand
            larand 12 July 2016 10: 13
            +1
            Quote: Haettenschweiler

            That is, to m ... a duck who sent this pilot to a foreign country in general, there are no questions?

            What, however, is a desperate internet guy. Only the name is pointed. Scary baby?
          4. ledi-irina
            ledi-irina 12 July 2016 13: 09
            0
            fuck me you are Haryatosha!
        2. Hon
          Hon 10 July 2016 11: 26
          +14
          The bad ones, of course, are those who are traveling, and the fact that the state, headlong began to lift restrictions and sanctions is normal.
          Article
          Quote: Chariton
          I have no doubt that Turkey will pay Russia material compensation in one form or another. In response, Russia lifts the ban on tourists visiting Turkey. The food embargo will also be lifted gradually.
          Yeah, those are the tomatoes.

          Turkey emphasized that there would be no compensation, and ours had already lifted the ban on tourists and those same tomatoes. Yesterday Medvedev ordered charter flights to Turkey no later than the end of next week. The head of government himself is dealing with this issue. Unprincipledness comes primarily from the state
          1. Sirocco
            Sirocco 10 July 2016 11: 47
            +5
            Quote: Hon
            that the state, headlong started to lift restrictions and sanctions,

            Quote: Hon
            Turkey stressed that there will be no compensation,

            Quote: Hon
            and ours have already lifted the ban on tourists and those same tomatoes.

            Quote: Hon
            Yesterday Medvedev ordered charter flights to Turkey no later than the end of next week.

            Where did you get this information? you probably sat on the right hand of Putin? once possess such information.
            Politics (according to Suvorov) This is a rotten egg.
            And what happens there, and what decisions are made really, nobody knows.
            There is a big chess game.
            And it’s good to scream, everything was gone, like Strelkov-Girkin’s.
            Well, in our case.
            Money is expensive, human life is even more expensive and time is the most precious.
            1. Hon
              Hon 10 July 2016 13: 29
              +2
              Again, chess games, multi-paths and Putin outplayed everyone
              http://webground.su/topic/2016/07/08/t6
              1. nadezhiva
                nadezhiva 10 July 2016 18: 59
                +2
                Maybe outplayed. Let's see, time will tell. I saw the first unprotected performance of GDP on the lifting of the ban on Turkish flights / tomato.
                The President found it difficult to choose the words that, in principle, were not typical for him, especially since these were not sudden interview questions. And it was very clearly visible. That bothered me the most.
                And the phrase about "despite the terrorist attacks" .... it is generally beyond reason.
                1. Hon
                  Hon 11 July 2016 08: 19
                  +3
                  So he needed to tell a joke about the difference between a grandmother and grandfather. When he speaks about the economy, he does so, he would also be a bummer with Turkey
                2. Road runer
                  Road runer 11 July 2016 12: 13
                  +4
                  In general, one gets the impression that our government, headed by the GDP, has simply forgotten how to work over the past 5-7 years. They have become numb, ossified and lost their effectiveness. If at first they "stirred", now there is a feeling that they are all dull and just go with the flow. The real opposition, which in other countries helps the government "to be in good shape", is absent in our country in principle. Education is bent, industry is limping on both legs, agriculture is even more or less but far from ideal, sports are generally not at any gate (pun intended))), corruption of incredible proportions, theft and carelessness, arbitrariness and impunity of officials and their golden children, ambiguous foreign policy ... You can still go on. The bottom line is that in any democratic country, even in the United States, the government changes at least once every 4-8 years, during this time it does not have time to overgrow with corruption schemes and acts as a whole for its people. And here everything is the other way around - the people and the herd will be patient, not in the first. All this is sad and sad ...
          2. Old
            Old 10 July 2016 16: 56
            +2
            Well, you don’t have to wait for something smart from Dimon. There are persistent rumors that they should have removed it in February, but postponed it to the fall. And it is possible to organize charter flights in two weeks, in principle, but the rest? ... I have doubts that they can be filled right away. More like a show.
          3. reservist
            reservist 11 July 2016 10: 23
            +3
            Quote: Hon
            Yesterday Medvedev ordered charter flights to Turkey no later than the end of next week. The head of government himself is dealing with this issue. Unprincipledness comes primarily from the state

            Well, let Medvedev fly there himself ...
        3. Zord3375
          Zord3375 11 July 2016 08: 22
          +1
          totally agree, everyone has his own gulllllllova
        4. reservist
          reservist 11 July 2016 10: 21
          +3
          Quote: Chariton
          So they choked on whiskey ...

          Rakia, whiskey is not included in all inclusive ...
          1. 97110
            97110 11 July 2016 15: 19
            +1
            Quote: reservist
            whiskey is not included in all inclusive ...

            And which is on methanol?
      2. mad
        mad 10 July 2016 08: 58
        +5
        Quote: Monarchist

        Truly a wild shriek of joy: "allowed to Turkey !! Returned happiness"

        Quote: Ivan Victory
        ... and those who want to rest there realize that they can be taken hostage and set up the whole country, or even worse, die in another terrorist attack.

        But why open? As an option, before the first attack, and then close like Egypt ?!
        Hopefully on that plane, as in the famous joke "I bl ... I collected you here for half a year!" our beloved deputies, travel agency management, the ahedzhaktnuyu "elite" and other liberals will gather!
        1. Haettenschweiler
          Haettenschweiler 10 July 2016 09: 24
          0
          "Turkey was and remains our enemy" ?!

          Let me remind you a little of the chronology of events in the free retelling:

          The day before yesterday:
          Turkey is our beloved and good friend! We will build the "Turkish Stream", we will overtake Europe, we like the products of the Turks and their hotels!

          Вчера:
          Turkey is evil in the flesh. They shot down our plane, their products are poisoned by an evil bacillus, their resorts are full of terrorists!

          Today:
          Turkey are great guys! They apologized for the downed plane, their products are healthier than healthy, the resorts have peace and quiet, their builders are professionals again ...

          Maybe Ivan would be better instructed by the government to be patriots, and not as shame ... as they are today? The people themselves will figure out who and what to believe in - additional pumping is not needed.
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 10 July 2016 10: 02
            +1
            Quote: Haettenschweiler
            Maybe Ivan will be better taught by the government to be patriots

            Maybe not shut up and will not teach what to do? fool
            1. Haettenschweiler
              Haettenschweiler 10 July 2016 10: 05
              -21%
              Quote: Vladimirets
              Maybe not shut up and will not teach what to do?


              When you learn to do at least something, then we'll talk.
              1. Vladimirets
                Vladimirets 10 July 2016 10: 17
                +12
                Quote: Haettenschweiler
                When you learn to do at least something

                Have you learned?
                1. Haettenschweiler
                  Haettenschweiler 10 July 2016 11: 12
                  -11%
                  Quote: Vladimirets
                  Have you learned?


                  And I do not command others what to do - I do not have such complexes.
                  1. Sirocco
                    Sirocco 10 July 2016 11: 36
                    +13
                    Quote: Haettenschweiler
                    And I do not command others what to do - I do not have such complexes.

                    You at least incite, and try to lead the topic in a different direction.
                    Now, about you, if you are from Germany, then you have problems there themselves, you have a log in your eye sticking out in the face of "refugees - migrants" who are "joking" your ladies at full speed, and you silently shake your nasal discharge on your fist cavity.
                    Well, at least you didn’t climb into the skirts, like your neighbors on the march against rape laughing
                    So the day is not far off when the native Europeans will be in the servants of the refugees from the east.
                    1. Haettenschweiler
                      Haettenschweiler 10 July 2016 14: 21
                      -5
                      Quote: Sirocco
                      You at least incite, and try to lead the topic in a different direction.


                      I do not incite anyone - this is comrade "Vladimir" started swinging his saber, I did not do anything bad to him and did not say anything. I think that I keep the topic in the "right" direction - after all, we seem to be discussing the topic of Turkey and the events associated with it. Correct if wrong.
                      And - no, I am not German, Russian, I have been to Germany, but did not plan to move. Again comrade "Vladimir" hastened to conclusions.
              2. gamer
                gamer 10 July 2016 16: 50
                +5
                Hey. Hatshenver! And you, just going, just know how to spoil!
            2. Hon
              Hon 10 July 2016 11: 28
              -11%
              Quote: Vladimirets
              Maybe not shut up and will not teach what to do?

              True eyes hurts?
            3. kit-kat
              kit-kat 11 July 2016 09: 43
              +8
              Unfortunately he is right. First, we kiss on the gums (remember the story with the south stream?), Despite the actions of Turkey in the 90s, then enemies, and now friends again. It turns out somehow spineless. Once an enemy, it means an enemy, at best a "partner".
          2. Cat man null
            Cat man null 10 July 2016 14: 46
            0
            Quote: Haettenschweiler
            The day before yesterday:
            Turkey is our beloved and good friend! We will build the "Turkish Stream", we will overtake Europe, we like the products of the Turks and their hotels!

            Вчера:
            Turkey is evil in the flesh. They shot down our plane, their products are poisoned by an evil bacillus, their resorts are full of terrorists!

            Today:
            Turkey - Great Guys! They apologized for the downed plane, their products are healthier than healthy, the resorts have peace and quiet, their builders are professionals again ...

            - Give references to the statements of the leadership of the Russian Federation, of which you are so ... um ... made charming conclusions
            - or admit that everything you wrote just seems to you yes
            1. Haettenschweiler
              Haettenschweiler 10 July 2016 15: 02
              -7
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              refer to the statements of the leadership of the Russian Federation, of which you are so ... um ... charming conclusions made
              - or admit that everything you wrote just seems to you


              References ... um ... You can search for yourself. I do not have the slightest desire to fight another Kremlin boat - and I apologize to you, I cannot perceive it differently with all desire.
              Sincerely.

              PS - if you wish, you can write it yourself in victory, because in the future I will not even answer you.
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 10 July 2016 15: 18
                +10
                Quote: Haettenschweiler
                if you wish, you can write it to your victory, because in the future I will not even answer you

                - well, here ... such a toy escaped ... Himmeldonnerwetter ... request

                Quote: Haettenschweiler
                I have no desire to fight another Kremlin boat

                - and you do not fight, do not yes

                Quote: Haettenschweiler
                Links ... um ... you can search for yourself

                - that is, we are not responsible for the bazaar and drive the blizzard. This is what I suspected ...
          3. Kite
            Kite 10 July 2016 18: 39
            +2
            Quote: Haettenschweiler
            chronology of events in free retelling:

            The "chronology" in the free retelling of the Euro-bloods and Obamokameruns - we have long been tired of listening. Nauseous. In vain do you master their methods.
          4. esaul1950
            esaul1950 10 July 2016 20: 20
            0
            And where did such an Arschlochschweiler come from? He knows everything, with Putin on a short leg ...
          5. 97110
            97110 11 July 2016 15: 30
            0
            Quote: Haettenschweiler
            Maybe Ivan would be better taught by the government to be patriots,

            You can't please you. We nailed a board just now in St. Petersburg. An ordinary Russian general was shot with a simple information board with simple dowels. How the electorate got drunk ... And not an ordinary general, but a lieutenant general. And not Russian but ... The "patriots" tore the board back from the wall. They are now afraid to be known as someone, they calmed down ...
        2. Altona
          Altona 10 July 2016 10: 17
          +7
          Quote: mad
          But why open? As an option, before the first attack, and then close like Egypt ?!

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          Anyway, fans of Marmaris and Kemer flew through Minsk. What's the point if the brains are from popcorn? Immediately, citizens need to think that they are not forcibly given vouchers with the wish "you have a good rest in Antalya." Yesterday we were already singing songs on TV saying that "All inclusive in Turkey", we do not have this, in Sochi there is a rude service, in Crimea there is bad infrastructure and all that. Well, how can you treat such "experts" who hayat their tourism? You can also put things in order in the tourism sector, if you want. In general, it all depends on people, they choose their vacation.
          1. Cleric
            Cleric 11 July 2016 00: 59
            +5
            Isn’t that so? Indeed: in Crimea there are serious problems with the service and it is better if those who are going there know about it. Indeed, the tourism industry in Turkey is much better developed, and this needs to be improved. Inform space Master those who need it. And many need to reconsider their views on information competition.
            1. Altona
              Altona 11 July 2016 13: 00
              +2
              Quote: Cleric
              Isn’t that so? Indeed: in Crimea there are serious problems with the service and it is better if those who are going there know about it. Indeed, the tourism industry in Turkey is much better developed, and this needs to be improved.

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              In Turkey, there is a complete order with terrorism, here you will finance it with charter tickets and trips to the hotel. Doesn’t it reach you? Or for you economics and politics are multidirectional things. I don’t eat or pull Latvian sprats. And Turkey does not pull me. And if you don’t buy your own, then how to pull out the economy? The producer will receive less money, the goods will be worse. As for the poor quality and other shortcomings, then there are flaws in the state.
              1. Maksus
                Maksus 11 July 2016 15: 19
                +3
                Quote: Altona
                ... And if you do not buy your own, then how to pull out the economy? The producer will receive less money, the goods will be worse. As for the poor quality and other shortcomings, then there are flaws in the state.


                That's right, we will buy shit, reveling in patriotism, in the hope that our money will go to work. Only the situation with AvtoVAZ and our players clearly shows that money goes wherever, but not to the good.
                1. Altona
                  Altona 11 July 2016 16: 22
                  0
                  Quote: Maksus
                  That's right, we will buy shit, reveling in patriotism, in the hope that our money will go to work.

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                  I actually talked about Turkey. You have expanded the topic here. Although the point? But you can see Turkey and Latvia are very necessary.
                  1. Maksus
                    Maksus 11 July 2016 16: 30
                    -1
                    Quote: Altona
                    Quote: Maksus
                    That's right, we will buy shit, reveling in patriotism, in the hope that our money will go to work.

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                    I actually talked about Turkey. You have expanded the topic here. Although the point? But you can see Turkey and Latvia are very necessary.


                    Where did you get this from my message, please specify. In order not to pass for stargazer.
              2. 97110
                97110 11 July 2016 15: 47
                -1
                Quote: Altona
                As for the poor quality and other shortcomings, then there are flaws in the state.

                Zhenya, quality and other disadvantages of the owners of the resort business. How many sovereign enterprises are there? The state could help at the alignment level. But, knowing ours, they can only adjust with an ax. Here's a ban to come to the sea from 20-00 to 08-00 - that's just come on (About the legislative act of the Sochi Council of the Flock this morning, "Vesti" is not silent. Even about the petition to sign the cancellation in Tyrnet reported). You are absolutely correct in your remarks about our money brought to Turkey. The state of the Olympic village in Adler began to play. The center of attraction was organized, then - a private trader, forward!
        3. Hon
          Hon 10 July 2016 11: 42
          +3
          Opened the day after the attack with dozens of victims
        4. 97110
          97110 11 July 2016 15: 23
          0
          Quote: mad
          Hopefully on that plane, as in the famous joke "I bl ... I collected you here for half a year!" our beloved deputies, travel agency management, the ahedzhaktnuyu "elite" and other liberals will gather!

          There are no such aircraft. This aframaks must be loaded with tamper. And still there will still be ashore.
    2. Ivan Slavyanin
      Ivan Slavyanin 10 July 2016 10: 14
      +3
      We need to show that we are "RUSSO-TOURISTO - VISION OF MORALE" and not go to Turkey to their beaches!
      Turks respect only the power and strength of the Spirit.
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      6. Hon
        Hon 10 July 2016 11: 41
        -5
        Late RUSSO-TOURISTO have already shown themselves.
        Quote: Ivan Slav
        We need to show that we are "RUSSO-TOURISTO - VISION OF MORALE" and not go to Turkey to their beaches!
        Turks respect only the power and strength of the Spirit.
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    3. dark_flame
      dark_flame 10 July 2016 11: 10
      +9
      Quote: Vladimirets
      For other idiots, conscience and honor do not exist. It seems that they were not allowed to fly to Turkey, but there was bread.

      You please do not confuse patriotism with dibi_lizm. With exactly the same success, we can say that all owners of foreign cars do not have concepts of conscience and honor, why you bought this used car: Ford, BMW, Lexus, Tayota, Subaru, etc. (underline), I would rather take a new news right from the passenger compartment.
      With Turkey, in the same way, the Turks offer adequate service for the right money, whether you like it or not, but it is. Our service is worse, but the prices are clearly not consistent with the service.
      1. Altona
        Altona 10 July 2016 21: 35
        -1
        Quote: dark_flame
        You please do not confuse patriotism with dibi_lizm. With exactly the same success, we can say that all owners of foreign cars do not have concepts of conscience and honor, why you bought this used car: Ford, BMW, Lexus, Tayota, Subaru, etc. (underline), I would rather take a new news right from the passenger compartment.
        With Turkey, in the same way, the Turks offer adequate service for the right money, whether you like it or not, but it is. Our service is worse, but the prices are clearly not consistent with the service.

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        There are people like that, Hindus. When they did not have their own car industry and good inexpensive Tata, their cool drove all the old stuff left over from the British. To the question, why don't you buy the 500th or 600th Mercedes, dear, does the money allow you? They proudly answered that when we have our own kind, we will buy ours. So is China. Of course, if the desire for comfort prevails and you want a "good product for adequate money", then you are probably right. You are a "qualified" consumer and all that. After reading a bunch of reviews and asking friends, you buy "your optimal choice" with rattling copper coins. Therefore, why you are reading comments on the forum, and not just another advertising catalog, is unclear.
        1. dark_flame
          dark_flame 11 July 2016 08: 51
          0
          True, the Chinese and Indians have their own executive cars, but ours? Not those made by Kulibins, but those that are officially produced in factories, the answer is obvious. If we had a worthy domestic car, I would have bought it without hesitation (not that you can buy 24, and assemble a good car from it with an investment of no more than 800 thousand, this is a separate conversation, and now I am more inclined to this option) . And what our officers offer is some kind of g .... for 720 thousand, and why, but because it is g .... anyway, someone will buy it. In our country, this principle: buy cheaper sell more expensive, and it can be seen in everything. Maybe that's why people go to rest abroad, buy foreign cars, etc., because when you are eaten .. your own people are very offended.
          1. Altona
            Altona 11 July 2016 11: 55
            -1
            Quote: dark_flame
            In our country, this principle: buy cheaper sell more expensive, and it can be seen in everything. Maybe that's why people go to rest abroad, buy foreign cars, etc., because when you are eaten .. your own people are very offended.

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            Clear. So you yourself have answered your own question. Looking for honesty on the side and screaming about patriotism. By the way, do not think that "honest" bourgeoisies do not know you ... And even in their "honest" cars, they honestly put you parts with a reduced resource, for example, they will honestly put plastic gears in the turbo unit. For example, I say ...
            PS In general, it was not about consumption, but about patriotism, and precisely in relation to Turkey. But for those who don't care about killing our pilots, they agreed with you, by the number of minuses I see how many patriots we have and how many "qualified consumers" like you.
            1. dark_flame
              dark_flame 11 July 2016 13: 17
              0
              Quote: Altona

              Clear. So you yourself have answered your own question. Looking for honesty on the side and screaming about patriotism. By the way, do not think that the "honest" bourgeoisie do not find you ...

              So in a foreign country, this is expected, although not what is expected, it is already clear that they will try to cheat you. And this is not offensive since morally a person is already ready for this. And when they do their own it is insulting. And then these people start shouting something about patriotism, and how can one go on vacation somewhere but not to us.
              Quote: Altona

              PS In general, it was not about consumption, but about patriotism, and precisely in relation to Turkey. But for those who don't care about killing our pilots, they agreed with you, by the number of minuses I see how many patriots we have and how many "qualified consumers" like you.

              According to this logic, we shouldn't travel to many places and shouldn't trade with many people. For some reason, then I always thought that a patriot of his country is one who treats his fellow citizens as people and not as a city ..., and no matter where he goes to rest, what car he drives around the city, whose phone he uses ... And there it turns out that a patriot is one who rests only on the territory of his country, rides a domestic car and wears a T-shirt with the words "Russia forward", but how he treats others is absolutely not important.
              1. Altona
                Altona 11 July 2016 16: 21
                +1
                Quote: dark_flame
                And there it turns out that a patriot is one who rests only on the territory of his country, rides a domestic car and wears a T-shirt with the words "Russia forward", but how he treats others is absolutely not important.

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                If you drive a car made in your own country, then you gave the money to your workers. So you treated them well. Is not it? According to this logic, I only buy goods from loyal countries. Yes, in principle, there is no need to look for them, China and India. I don't look at the brand, because the brand fee is an added charge for air from advertising to bourgeois. These are the factors that guide me. And many products are manufactured in our territory. It is not necessary to look for a "Russia Forward" T-shirt, because it will still be China and Bangladesh, sometimes ours from their fabric. We can and should trade, but personally I will not use the results of trade with some countries. That's all.
                1. Maksus
                  Maksus 11 July 2016 16: 29
                  0
                  Quote: Altona
                  .... By this logic, I buy goods only from loyal countries. Yes, in principle, there is no need to look for them, China and India. I don't look at the brand, because the brand fee is an added charge for air from advertising to bourgeois. These are the factors that guide me. And many products are manufactured in our territory. It is not necessary to look for a "Russia Forward" T-shirt, because it will still be China and Bangladesh, sometimes ours from their fabric. We can and should trade, but personally I will not use the results of trade with some countries. That's all.

                  But does it not bother you that China is only a factory, and the owners of all this Chinese goods live in the states and the EU?
                  1. Altona
                    Altona 11 July 2016 16: 39
                    0
                    Quote: Maksus
                    But does it not bother you that China is only a factory, and the owners of all this Chinese goods live in the states and the EU?

                    -------------------
                    It doesn’t bother. China bought up some of the brands, it also has its own brands - ZTE, Haier, in the factories of which it does the rest. China also has luxury sports brands. Yes, rummage and find replacements for everything.
                    1. Maksus
                      Maksus 11 July 2016 19: 48
                      -1
                      The fact of the matter is that they bought up what the Europeans (including us, he feed) and the Americans did for them, and did not create it themselves, do you feel the difference? And now all the Chinese news (not copies, namely the news) is also made by white people, it’s just that they are paid not by John or Hans, but by Li Wei or Jimmy Wong. And I’ll take Kettler all for myself, even though it’s made in China, and not HongSunShan. And my car is also not Chinese.
                2. dark_flame
                  dark_flame 11 July 2016 17: 00
                  0
                  Following your logic, we get the following.
                  Quote: Altona
                  By this logic, I buy goods only in loyal countries. Yes, in principle, they do not need to be sought-China and India.

                  Soviet-Chinese border conflict on Damansky Island.
                  58 of our soldiers were killed.
                  Quote: Altona
                  But for those who don't care about killing our pilots, they agreed with you, by the number of minuses I see how many patriots we have and how many "qualified consumers" like you.

                  Some contradiction on your part does not seem to you.
        2. Maksus
          Maksus 11 July 2016 10: 39
          0
          Do you need advertising to understand that our auto industry is a dull g ???
      2. 97110
        97110 11 July 2016 15: 52
        0
        Quote: dark_flame
        no concepts of conscience and honor

        And who is this "vet", a respected interpreter of the term "patriotism"?
      3. pafegosoff
        pafegosoff 12 July 2016 19: 43
        0
        Absolutely right! Turkey is mainly for average income (I have lower than the bottom, but looking at friends and relatives you see: the owner of four or five stores (not a network), which will travel to Turkey for one year and bend from MAGNETS, fives, Auchans, coins for another year and others; the director of an insurance company (branch) rode, went bankrupt, unemployed, a senior citizen, a former general director of a very famous but destroyed by the state association, a shop manager, a foreman or a head of a cho-cho at JSC Russian Railways (the management in the Office receives an order of magnitude more and despises Turkey. They, like true patriots and members of United Russia (a prerequisite for getting a salary of a million or more), relax in the Spanish or French shores or in the Mediterranean Sea and the Atlantic Ocean, as well as in harbors and other Pacific islands (God forbid, Thailand! Shame !
        This alignment of patriotism regarding the Turkish coast. And conversations: do not buy foreign for a ruble, support our patriotic industrialist, buy for a thousand! - a grandmother who gets eight thousand for everything about everything or some meteorologist, or some first-class aircraft technician, forced to cut grass because the airfield destroyed by patriots - these people will send all patriots to a single hair dryer ...
    4. My doctor
      My doctor 10 July 2016 13: 38
      +3
      (Neutral, since it is not for me to give an emotional assessment to either the citizens or the state)
      Not all people supported the moratorium on visiting resorts in Turkey. Some of them reached the beaches through the airports of Minsk, Vilnius and Kiev before resolution. I don’t know how in other cities, but because of this, tickets to the Minsk airport sharply went up in price in that direction, before that they were already worth it, so it was more profitable to go to Minsk from Minsk and fly out of the white stone. So permission is more of an economic decision than a political one, only air carriers and tour operators of neighboring countries benefitted from the ban. The state where it was profitable for him in the person of state corporations did not stop cooperation. So the warming of relations is connected not with apologies and Turkey, but with economic realities. This is a huge amount of money invested in joint projects, passage through the strait, in addition to the desire of some citizens of the Russian Federation to understand that Honor and Conscience are higher than a full belly.
    5. Drozd-den
      Drozd-den 10 July 2016 18: 32
      +2
      A tour of cyborgs is, it’s an ass.
    6. lel
      lel 11 July 2016 10: 57
      0
      eh .... to sell them a one-way ticket ..... it would become cleaner on Russian land ...
    7. Maksus
      Maksus 11 July 2016 12: 53
      +3
      I honestly admit that I have not been to Turkey or Egypt. But I have been to our "resorts" ... Expensive, dirty and no service. Therefore, I perfectly understand people looking for a cheap vacation. But, for me, Greece and Cyprus are still preferable, we nevertheless grew up on their myths and legends.
  2. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 10 July 2016 06: 33
    +15
    Interstate relations are not relations between Petit and Vasya. Nakosyachil-went away. There are completely different rules. The interests of the state as a whole are above all. And these are already millions of people. Therefore, there must always be conditions for rapprochement. The conditions were set, their implementation is the business of two leaders. All countries of the region are interested in this. This is not only Turkey-Russia. The fight against terror in Syria is also a derivative of our common efforts with Turkey. It's not as simple as some emotional commentators draw.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 10 July 2016 06: 41
      +28
      Quote: dchegrinec
      Not so simple as some emotional commentators draw.

      You correctly noted this, only every citizen can and should express his position. And if, after lifting the ban, a citizen of my country calmly travels to the country that killed his own soldier, then I can only wish him a successful terrorist attack, at least blame me.
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 10 July 2016 07: 50
        -6
        Quote: Vladimirets
        And if, after lifting the ban, a citizen of my country calmly travels to the country that killed his own soldier, then I can only wish him a successful terrorist attack, at least blame me.

        If you count all the countries where our soldier died, then it turns out you need to fence yourself off from the whole world and not show your nose? Life goes on, but the wishes of the citizens of their country for a "successful terrorist attack" looks at least strange.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 10 July 2016 08: 02
          +14
          Quote: Bayonet
          If you count all the countries where our soldier died, it turns out that you need to fence off the whole world and not show your nose?

          Do not exaggerate, our pilot died as a result of direct and unambiguous actions of the OFFICIAL authorities of a certain state. Moreover, the situation is still incomprehensible.
          Quote: Bayonet
          wishing the citizens of their country a "successful terrorist attack" looks at least strange.

          I. an idiot traveling to a country where three terrorist attacks occurred at the MAIN airport on the eve cannot cause sympathy. Can you feel sorry for a person who puts his foot in a circular saw of his own free will? Me not.
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 10 July 2016 08: 10
            -1
            Quote: Vladimirets
            I.diot traveling to the country where three terrorist attacks occurred at the MAIN airport on the eve,

            We also had terrorist attacks - to lock ourselves at home? And no one is 100% safe from the fact that the brick does not fall on your head or the car with the idiot behind the wheel will not move.
            Minus return hi
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 10 July 2016 08: 17
              0
              Quote: Bayonet
              We also had terrorist attacks - to lock ourselves at home? And no one is 100% safe from the fact that the brick does not fall on your head or the car with the idiot behind the wheel will not move.

              You understand what I was talking about, why is this grotesque?
              Quote: Bayonet
              Minus return

              Yes, for God's sake, I don’t worry. hi
            2. Al1977
              Al1977 11 July 2016 11: 05
              +2
              Quote: Bayonet
              We also had terrorist attacks - to lock ourselves at home? And no one is 100% safe from the fact that the brick does not fall on your head or the car with the idiot behind the wheel will not move.

              Found where to argue) There are seasoned Urya-patriots. They have a principle - all enemies are around, we are alone awesome boys. Only they love their homeland, and all around are stupid traitors))) Their 10-15% of the population, do not waste your nerves on these .... patriots)
          2. Evgeniy667b
            Evgeniy667b 10 July 2016 19: 03
            -1
            Vladimirets "I. a diot traveling to a country where three terrorist attacks took place at the MAIN airport the day before, cannot evoke sympathy. Can you feel sorry for a person who sticks his leg into a circular saw of his own free will?

            Otherwise, you will not name people who value their skin above all else and conscience in the first place. oh and a lot of such crap in Russia Mother! The USSR was exchanged for jeans and chewing gum, industrial enterprises finished for used foreign cars, cheap Chinese and Turkish consumer goods ... And are they really people ??? Worse than cattle!
          3. Al1977
            Al1977 11 July 2016 11: 04
            0
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Do not exaggerate, our pilot died as a result of direct and unambiguous actions of the OFFICIAL authorities of a certain state. Moreover, the situation is still incomprehensible.

            So direct and unambiguous or the situation is not clear?)))))
            Contradict yourself.
        2. Idiot
          Idiot 10 July 2016 08: 28
          +1
          Not killed, but killed. If the Turkish attacked our fighter, and not the bomber, would have shot him down in an air battle, then everything would have been different. It’s the same as judging a soldier or Moroder.
          1. Al1977
            Al1977 11 July 2016 11: 09
            -2
            Quote: pft, fkb
            Not killed, but killed. If the Turkish attacked our fighter, and not the bomber, would have shot him down in an air battle, then everything would have been different. It’s the same as judging a soldier or Moroder.

            If ours were shot down by the Turks, the whole site would rejoice to user.
            If we them - this is pride, and they are us - murder, betrayal, etc.))
            Go to Jubka or Anchor Gap, rest, calm your nerves) The main thing on the beach is to clear the bulls from "vysykopatrioticheskikh" tourists and not to face shit in the sea from "spiritually bonded" Russians.
  3. Hope1960
    Hope1960 10 July 2016 06: 42
    +22
    In all honesty: people are pleased when they are welcomed, when it is beautiful, clean, warm, well-groomed beaches, etc. I would like to return to the former rich, good times. BUT ... The former will not be ... The Russians, like no one else know about terror! And that "East is a tricky business." That "I swear by my mother" means "I turned you around the Russians ...", that the ISIS members have disappeared throughout Turkey and no security will save you from a stoned suicide bomber. That it is easier to get medical care in a Russian resort than in a foreign hostile country without knowledge of the language and a bank account. And our women do not wear a burqa, but quite the opposite, which is fraught in a Muslim country (Germans were even forgiven topless sunbathing, because they paid in currency). In short, WE ARE WAITING FOR THE BRIDGE!
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 10 July 2016 08: 28
      +8
      Quote: Hope1960
      igilovtsy disappeared throughout Turkey and no protection will save from a stoned suicide bomber.

      Why, then, did our president allow charters to Turkey? On the contrary, to Egypt, where the situation is much calmer and the official authorities, unlike Turkey, are fighting, and not supporting terrorists, the charters did not allow it!
      1. 73bor
        73bor 10 July 2016 09: 36
        0
        What for ? This is how they will blow it up or take it hostage and ban it, I personally don’t understand the desire of our people to go to Turkey without fail, to come to any international match with the participation of the Turks and you can see how they relate to you! You can see Turkish tomatoes are more important than honor for many, yesterday they showed on the news the first flight from Russia to Turkey, watch SHOCKLY.
        1. Al1977
          Al1977 11 July 2016 11: 14
          +1
          Quote: 73bor
          What for ? This is how they will blow it up or take it hostage and ban it, I personally don’t understand the desire of our people to go to Turkey without fail, to come to any international match with the participation of the Turks and you can see how they relate to you!

          And what did our tourists and fans do in France?
          In a country where there have been several terrorist attacks in recent times. The country that threw with the Mistrals? Where are the bans on flying to Europe? Why are they better than the Turks ????
      2. Al1977
        Al1977 11 July 2016 11: 13
        -3
        Quote: Stas157
        Why, then, did our president allow charters to Turkey? On the contrary, to Egypt, where the situation is much calmer and the official authorities, unlike Turkey, are fighting, and not supporting terrorists, the charters did not allow it!

        He is just ours, like Sechin, the youngest hero of Russia.
        He does what he wants, that's all. And do not think what he thinks about you. You are a herd and there’s no way to call you .. for him
        1. 11 black
          11 black 11 July 2016 18: 25
          +1
          Quote: Al1977
          He is just ours, like Sechin, the youngest hero of Russia.
          He does what he wants, that's all. And do not think what he thinks about you. You are a herd and there’s no way to call you .. for him

          Great comment - robust, full of facts, arguments and evidence.
          And if for garlic - the GDP over the past decade has done much more for the Russian Federation than they could have imagined in the west.
          We were again imposed by sanctions, we are again the "Empire of Evil", NATO bases are returning to Europe ... Russia returned Crimea, built a cosmodrome in 5 years and tested a new heavy-class launch vehicle, built the world's largest laser test bench, is building a powerful collider on its own , renovates nuclear power plants, builds nuclear icebreakers.
          Science cities are being built in the country again, industry has begun to develop, the average salary ratio has almost equaled that of the USSR.
          Of course - there are many shortcomings. Education reform, for example, and much more ... but this is not a reason to write such a heresy, this must be remembered and criticized, but criticized in essence and conclusively.
          If everything were as you "write" - then we, Russia, would simply not exist long ago, and we are here, although no one believed that Russia would survive the nineties, but we did it. But if your words were true at least per cent, they would never have done it!
          1. Al1977
            Al1977 12 July 2016 11: 14
            -1
            Quote: 11 black
            And if for garlic - the GDP over the past decade has done much more for the Russian Federation than they could have imagined in the west.

            I agree, in the West, they could not imagine that in such a country, on a territory and resources, people live on 200 bucks. And the GDP was trying very hard to make it happen. You just need to be a genius to arrange life in a rich country at the level of third world countries.
            Or kill me with the facts that our pensioner will give odds to the Germans and French.
          2. Al1977
            Al1977 12 July 2016 11: 16
            -1
            Quote: 11 black
            Science cities are being built in the country again, industry has begun to develop, the average salary ratio has almost equaled that of the USSR.

            Can I bring the level of this very s / n here? It is desirable in world currency to compare with other countries.
            Can you also indicate the greatest achievements of Skolkovo?
    2. Simon
      Simon 10 July 2016 08: 57
      0
      I also want to add that for the entire time of the coexistence of Turkey and Russia, we have never had peace with Turkey and it seems that friendship will never be with them. The Turks always attacked us, and then they arranged a provocation. Where is the guarantee that the Ishilians at camp sites and beaches will not arrange terrorist attacks. request
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 11 July 2016 20: 36
        0
        [b] According to recent reports, Turkey refuses to support ISIS and begins to nabble terrorists [/

        And as if the Erdogan family will now live, they will also sell oil for 10 bucks, and where will they get the tanker fleet?
    3. Al1977
      Al1977 11 July 2016 11: 11
      0
      Quote: Hope1960
      The Russians, like no one else know about terror!

      Really? How many terrorist attacks have been in Russia over the past 10 years ?? !!!
      1. 11 black
        11 black 11 July 2016 20: 01
        0
        Quote: Al1977
        Really? How many terrorist attacks have been in Russia over the past 10 years ?? !!!

        And how much terror has been in Russia / the USSR over the past 100 years?
        1. Al1977
          Al1977 12 July 2016 11: 17
          0
          Quote: 11 black
          Quote: Al1977
          Really? How many terrorist attacks have been in Russia over the past 10 years ?? !!!

          And how much terror has been in Russia / the USSR over the past 100 years?

          In comparison with the Middle East - a meager. Or let's get the numbers in the studio, I bet.
    4. 97110
      97110 11 July 2016 16: 00
      0
      Quote: Hope1960
      The Germans even said goodbye topless sunbathing, because

      they are worse than world war.
  4. VladimS
    VladimS 10 July 2016 06: 50
    +14
    And if, God forbid, misfortune happens there with them .. Russia help, take out, rescue!
    The question arises: did you not know - did not know ?? Have you been warned? YES!
    Now yourself, as you can.
    It's a pity! When for "all inclusive", conscience is turned off and elementary prudence.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 10 July 2016 08: 38
      +2
      Quote: VladimS
      The question arises: did you not know - did not know ?? Have you been warned?

      Yes, warned! Putin warned that his friend Erdogan guarantees Russians safety! Do you really need any guarantees?
      I still can’t get rid of the unpleasant feeling, after such a hasty reconciliation of our president with the one who stabbed in the back! Well and still, I hoped that Erdogan, really, could not get off with tomatoes!
  5. qwert111
    qwert111 10 July 2016 06: 52
    +11
    You can have a good rest in Russia too, if there was a desire. But unfortunately we have such people for whom a trip abroad is some kind of incomprehensible confirmation of their status, an object of some kind of pride. I have a neighbor every weekend wound to Finland, asking, well, what did you do there. A man cannot answer, that was and was simply. Well, I understand that if at work, I would have to talk for a whole week, but last weekend I would wind up in Finnish. Gentlemen, this is not cool, this is stupid !!!
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 10 July 2016 12: 08
      +8
      Quote: qwert111
      You can have a good rest in Russia too, if there was a desire.

      You can rest, only for what amount, will this rest be offered to you?
      Yes, you can relax and expensive and cheap.
      Just recently, acquaintances rested on Lake Baikal, and so a day of rest (with food) cost them 3750 rubles per person, service, and so on, can not be compared to abroad.
      In short, if the case, then in our tourism industry inside Russia, as always, the price is lame quality.
      And stop screaming about abroad, to the majority of Russian citizens in modern conditions, to be alive. With such salaries it is not up to foreign countries. Naturally, this does not apply to the liberal party-goers from our large cities of millionaires.
      Which for a warm beach, and all inclusive and donate homeland.
      All this reminded me of films about the Second World War, where the Germans offer our surrounded fighters to surrender.
      RUSSIAN! GIVE UP, YOU ARE WAITING FOR HOT TEA, DRY CLOTHES AND OUR HOSPITALS
      And there were those who sacrifice their homeland. There is no that former patriotism. No.
    2. Maksus
      Maksus 11 July 2016 12: 08
      +3
      Quote: qwert111
      You can have a good rest in Russia too, if there was a desire. But unfortunately we have such people for whom a trip abroad is some kind of incomprehensible confirmation of their status, an object of some kind of pride. I have a neighbor every weekend wound to Finland, asking, well, what did you do there. A man cannot answer, that was and was simply. Well, I understand that if at work, I would have to talk for a whole week, but last weekend I would wind up in Finnish. Gentlemen, this is not cool, this is stupid !!!

      It is cheaper to relax in Fink than in Karelia. That’s the whole catch. Plus cleanliness and order around. Especially touches as all jeeps with Moscow and St. Petersburg numbers go to Fink 60 km / h, and on our side of the border there’s a sneaker on the floor and Hurray !!!
  6. Koronik
    Koronik 10 July 2016 06: 59
    -32%
    I do not understand the position of the author, to interfere with everything in a heap, politics and recreation, talk about patriotism (I wonder where the author spends his vacation? The wrong thing is not in Russia, moreover, having his own house on the seashore but not in Sochi) .And all this cry was raised as a PR before the elections, or try to play on the holy feelings of the Russians - love for the Motherland (which they proved more than once, if necessary). And the cry is raised by those people who do not consider Russia as their Motherland, and will sell it for a penny. And their money these people do not keep on deposits in Russian banks and their amounts are calculated not in thousands, but in millions of $. What is bad about the fact that the rest in Turkey is an order of magnitude superior to the domestic one and the majority of the population of Russia has been able to afford it in terms of money costs. I have been there more than once in the last 10 years , and neither Greece nor Egypt nor Spain can offer the best quality of service. So why can't I take my family on vacation, where I like it, where we really rest and where we are welcome! And we do not need to scare us, we are already frightened more than once, but such statements are respected - "And through all this news a clear hint slips. What these Russians are pathetic and insignificant. No memory, no conscience" shove it up your ass, our conscientious ones.
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      1. Monarchist
        Monarchist 10 July 2016 08: 26
        0
        Field Marshal, let me note that you have also put it delicately, in the Russian language there are more vivid definitions for this. He himself said where he should be shoved: "shove ... in the b * tsu"!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 July 2016 07: 18
      +3
      Quote: Koronik
      ... No memory, no conscience "stick it up your ass, our conscientious ones.

      You stood there for Stalin’s mountain; here is all your rotten communist nature.
      1. Fox
        Fox 10 July 2016 07: 27
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        You stood there for Stalin’s mountain; here is all your rotten communist nature.

        in once centuries I will support Alexander: either remove the cross, or put on your underpants!
      2. Orang
        Orang 10 July 2016 07: 48
        +12
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        rotten communist nature

        Any line for you, Alexander. What does the communist, ordinary modern philistine nature. Communist nature suggests patriotism.
        And on the topic everything is clear, the masses will again go tagil to Turkey. Do not care, eat, thump, roast in the sun, what a shot down plane.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 10 July 2016 07: 54
          -5
          Quote: Orang
          What does the communist, ordinary modern philistine nature. Communist nature suggests patriotism.

          Despite the fact that he is a Stalinist!
          1. Idiot
            Idiot 10 July 2016 08: 35
            +12
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Despite the fact that he is a Stalinist!


            I am also a Stalinist. The main thing is not to be a bugger.
            1. Bayonet
              Bayonet 10 July 2016 14: 12
              -9
              Quote: pft, fkb
              I am also a Stalinist. The main thing is not to be a bugger.

              Who cares ? smile
      3. Stas157
        Stas157 10 July 2016 08: 51
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        all your rotten communist nature.

        Who about what, and lousy about the bath! In Romanov, the Communists seem to be everywhere! Alexander, prick, how have the Communists offended you so much? We look forward to a tearful story!)))
        1. guzik007
          guzik007 10 July 2016 09: 42
          +6
          Who about what, and lousy about the bath! In Romanov, the Communists seem to be everywhere! Alexander, prick, how have the Communists offended you so much? We look forward to a tearful story!)))
          ----------------------------------------------
          I can’t read Romanov’s comments (I’m in his emergency situation - offended, sick: =)) But according to
          when quoted sometimes I see.
          So, Romanov. do not confuse horseradish with a finger, but Stalin with the Communist Party. Read the materials of the post-war plenum of the CPSU, in which Stalin made an attempt to push the party out of leadership positions, replacing it with techies. In essence, he wanted these talkers to take power, for which he very likely lost their lives.
    3. AleksUkr
      AleksUkr 10 July 2016 07: 44
      +21
      Quote: Koronik
      What is bad is that vacation in Turkey is an order of magnitude superior to the domestic one and has been built up by the majority of the Russian population in terms of money. I have been there more than once over the past 10 years, and neither Egypt nor Spain can offer the best quality of service. So why can’t I take my family to rest,


      Take your family to Turkey to rest. Help the locals with their overworked money. But only then do not ask Russia, the Foreign Ministry to save you. But this is not even the main thing. The main CONSCIENCE. You have never been, and you will not become a patriot of Russia. You are the one who does not like anything native. The main thing for you - I was abroad, in Turkey or another place. For you, the imported one is tastier than your own. You and your children are adjusting to this. They will all the more not be patriots ... And the fewer there will be in Russia, the stronger the country will be ... Good luck on vacation ...
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 10 July 2016 07: 56
        +16
        Quote: AleksUkr
        But only then do not ask Russia, the Foreign Ministry to save you.

        If there is a mess there, there will be the first case from me when I write that it’s not necessary to take my own — ours are not there.
        1. Idiot
          Idiot 10 July 2016 08: 36
          -10%
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          If there is a mess there, there will be the first case from me when I write that it’s not necessary to take my own — ours are not there.


          Ours in the ravine eat up the last horse.
          1. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 10 July 2016 11: 31
            +5
            Quote: pft, fkb
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            If there is a mess there, there will be the first case from me when I write that it’s not necessary to take my own — ours are not there.


            Ours in the ravine eat up the last horse.

            Your believe, the horse is eaten up. Our horses don’t eat, we don’t eat more.
      2. Stas157
        Stas157 10 July 2016 09: 06
        +2
        Quote: AleksUkr
        But only then do not ask Russia, the Foreign Ministry to save you.

        Why? The official ban on charters is lifted!

        Quote: AleksUkr
        The main CONSCIENCE. You have never been, nor will you become a patriot of Russia.

        You tell Putin about this!

        I marvel at our patriots, at the same time support Putin in reconciliation with the Turk, and our tourists are blamed for the same!
        Here for sure, you either remove the cross or put on your underpants!
        I’m here, my actions are more consistent. I will not go to Turkey with my family either, and I do not support Putin’s decision.
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 10 July 2016 11: 57
          -4
          Quote: Stas157
          Quote: AleksUkr
          But only then do not ask Russia, the Foreign Ministry to save you.

          Why? The official ban on charters is lifted!

          Quote: AleksUkr
          The main CONSCIENCE. You have never been, nor will you become a patriot of Russia.

          You tell Putin about this!

          I marvel at our patriots, at the same time support Putin in reconciliation with the Turk, and our tourists are blamed for the same!
          Here for sure, you either remove the cross or put on your underpants!
          I’m here, my actions are more consistent. I will not go to Turkey with my family either, and I do not support Putin’s decision.

          1. There are many exclamation marks, the adrenaline is off scale. "I says how I saw this citizen, so such dislike became." Do not remember our name in your whistle, he will punish. And he will do the right thing.
          2. And you seem to have gone too far and threw off the cowards and the cross. Maybe that's right. Sit down, calm down and think what is more important now.
          3. Politically, we reconciled with Turkey. Perhaps one of the conditions was the lifting of the flight ban. But ... Terrorism in Turkey has not been canceled. And if a person sticks his head and his family’s head into the jaws of a crocadile (maybe he won’t bite off), then what does Putin have to do with it? He gave you guarantees that everything will be fine and not hurt? Or should I speak, I peeed here, but I do not recommend it. This will not happen for political reasons, and rightly so.
          4. It is correct that they refrained from traveling to Turkey. She will not sail away, there will still be time.
          5. Stalinist, patriot, support Putin in reconciliation with the Turk.
          What a mess in your head. Who offers tourists to "try on" the Turks. The ban on visits has been lifted, and where there are no guarantees.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 10 July 2016 13: 44
            -3
            Quote: Mavrikiy
            1. That is how many exclamation points, adrenaline rolls over.

            I'm fine! And, here it seems from you reading these signs off scale!))

            Quote: Mavrikiy
            And you seem to have gone too far and threw off the cowards and the cross. Maybe that's right. Sit down, calm down and think what is more important now.

            That's how many such grief advisers divorced! Think better about yourself, where you should sit, and what to think! Ah, I’ll figure it out without snotty!))) Truncated?

            Quote: Mavrikiy
            Politically, we reconciled with Turkey.

            I don’t like this! Therefore, I express my opinion on the forum! If you think otherwise, then explain, but without your good advice, what should I do and how!

            Quote: Mavrikiy
            Terrorism in Turkey has not been canceled.

            So why should people send charters there ?? Someone will not go, but many will go! Someone is conscious, and there is a head on his shoulders, but who does not? Let them go, or what? And, why were we forbidden to travel to friendly Egypt, since citizens, according to your words, are themselves responsible? Yes, enough to justify Putin forever! Allegedly, he has nothing to do with it! I noticed that no matter what happens, they’re located, such here ... In everything, after all, he will be acquitted!

            Quote: Mavrikiy
            What porridge you have in your head.

            You with your assessments about my head, be more modest so that you are not evaluated later! Volomon?


            Quote: Mavrikiy
            Who offers tourists to "try on" the Turks.

            Where did you get this from? So it’s more like a mess in your head! I pointed out that it is not logical to justify the president’s actions to reconcile with Erdogan and lift the ban on travel to Turkey, on the one hand, and on the other, to blame our citizens for using this permission! This is two-faced.
      3. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 10 July 2016 09: 24
        +2
        Quote: AleksUkr
        But only then do not ask Russia, the Foreign Ministry to save you.

        Quote: VladimS
        And if, God forbid, misfortune happens there with them .. Russia help, take out, rescue!
        The question arises: did you not know - did not know ?? Have you been warned? YES!
        Now yourself, as you can.

        AleksUkr - do you speak for all of Russia? and on behalf of the Foreign Ministry?
        VladimS
        "And if, God forbid, trouble happens to them there" - we will worry, we will pull out and we will save the whole country - because these are citizens of Russia.
        we can "spit", "swear" (why, why are you going there ...) - but we will save the whole country - because these are citizens of Russia. yes
    4. user1212
      user1212 10 July 2016 08: 02
      +12
      Quote: Koronik
      And these people keep their money on deposits not in Russian banks and their amounts are calculated not in thousands, but in millions of dollars

      Quote: Koronik
      I have been there more than once over the past 10 years, and neither Greece nor Egypt nor Spain can offer the best quality of service. So why can not I take my family to rest, where I like, where we really relax and where we are happy!

      You can take a different look at your trips to Turkey. Tourists annually export millions of dollars to Turkish banks, thus YOU sponsor the genocide of the Kurdish population, arm the terrorists from among the pro-Turkish population of Syria and provide the Turkish Air Force with new fighters. But why think about it if the sun is not killing you all around? So are you selling your homeland for cheap booze and Turkish grub? How are you different from the late Poteev (is there a way for him)? Accusing the thieves in power, of which there are certainly a lot, of withdrawing money from the country, why are you doing the same thing without any remorse?
      Such a view, of course, is too radical, and so you can go far. But posting patriotic photos, messages, whimpering about the collapse of the army in the Russian Federation and the strengthening of the army of opponents is much easier than supporting your country and army with a blood ruble, right?
      1. grandfather Mih
        grandfather Mih 10 July 2016 09: 08
        +1
        Quote: user1212

        Such a view, of course, is too radical, and so you can go far. But posting patriotic photos, messages, whimpering about the collapse of the army in the Russian Federation and the strengthening of the army of opponents is much easier than supporting your country and army with a blood ruble, right?
        Why too radical. Normal and true (for me). Improving my vocabulary. So I think it is an appropriate addition to "and s.c-tourism" in case of licentiousness and degradation of morality
        1. user1212
          user1212 10 July 2016 10: 41
          +4
          Quote: Grandfather Micah
          Why too radical.

          Every time you buy a car, phone, food or drugs in a pharmacy, you sponsor someone else's economy. Unfortunately, Russia does not produce the entire list of goods, and it is hardly possible. In the same way, a German or a Pole, every night turning on the light, sponsors the rearmament of our army and navy
      2. Stas157
        Stas157 10 July 2016 09: 24
        -1
        Quote: user1212
        YOU sponsor the genocide of the Kurdish population, arm the terrorists from among the pro-Turkish population of Syria and provide the Turkish Air Force with new fighters. But why think about it if the sun is not killing you all around? So are you selling your homeland for cheap booze and Turkish grub? How are you different from the late Poteev

        And what are you extreme people doing? For starters, you will turn to our president with your accusations, the one who is in fact the direct culprit in lifting the ban on charters to Turkey, as well as those who lure our citizens to rest in Turkey, receiving profits from this! And then go on to the tourists.
        1. user1212
          user1212 10 July 2016 10: 37
          +4
          Quote: Stas157
          For starters, you will turn to our president with your accusations, the one who is in fact the direct culprit in lifting the ban on charters to Turkey, as well as those who lure our citizens to rest in Turkey, receiving profits from this!

          That is, it is GDP that is to blame for the fact that some of our fellow citizens are deprived of brains and conscience? Why should Putin decide everything for you? People are not sheep who need a shepherd and a fenced area with dogs in the corners "go here, don't go there." If I am not going to Turkey, then this is my choice, you have the right to yours. There is no need to make a labor colony with guards out of Russia.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 10 July 2016 12: 03
            +1
            Quote: user1212
            That is, is this GDP to blame for the fact that some of our fellow citizens are deprived of brains and conscience?

            That is, do you think Putin has nothing to do with it ?? And, then, as a result of his decision, streams of Russians, if not conscious ones, will rush to Turkey, and Putin has nothing to do with it?
            What then is the President responsible for? If we are so free, let's allow drugs! If anyone dies themselves to blame! And the drug trade, too, like the trade in permits to Turkey. And for all those who buy and use drugs will be to blame, and not those who allow and sell! So after your logic it turns out?

            Quote: user1212
            Why should Putin decide everything for you?

            The president just makes decisions for the whole country, doesn't he?

            Quote: user1212
            There is no need to make a labor colony with security from Russia.

            What are you about?! Everyone who really wanted to leave for Turkey flew off with regular Aeroflot flights or via Belarus! Nobody in our country forcibly holds anyone! But why should people send charters to this hotbed of terrorism by charters? Unclear! And at the same time call for some kind of consciousness!
      3. Haettenschweiler
        Haettenschweiler 10 July 2016 09: 30
        -7
        Quote: user1212
        But posting patriotic photos, messages, whimpering about the collapse of the army in the Russian Federation and the strengthening of the army of opponents is much easier than supporting your country and army with a blood ruble, right?


        Especially in such conditions, when the country now and then tries to shit on your head. And you still love - Vova, Dima, their adherents - this is the "homeland" today.
      4. Winnie76
        Winnie76 10 July 2016 12: 56
        +1
        Quote: user1212
        Tourists annually export millions of dollars to Turkish banks, thus YOU sponsor the genocide of the Kurdish population, arm the terrorists from among the pro-Turkish population of Syria and provide the Turkish Air Force with new fighters. But why think about it if the sun is not killing you all around?

        Ok, the logic is clear. Volkswagen bought a little bu - you sponsor the Reich, bought, God forbid, Jeep - you sponsor mattresses, bought Toyota - you sponsor Nato. Moreover, the budget profit for these things is an order of magnitude more than a week in Kemer.

        User1212, you are our patriotic, and what car do you use? Not otherwise Priora. Which company do you use a refrigerator, a washing machine (one hundred pounds Atlant, Vyatka-machine) What is the name of the TV you watch (probably Rubin or Vityaz)))) Or the tablet on which you write (???)?
    5. midivan
      midivan 10 July 2016 08: 10
      +10
      Quote: Koronik
      So why can not I take my family to rest, where I like, where we really relax and where we are happy!

      where are you welcome? there you are happy with your money and do not flatter yourself into a personal account smile and when you read a scribble like yours, Lermontov’s lines are immediately recalled smile - Yes, there were people in our time,
      Not that the present tribe:
      Bogatyri - not you! wink
      1. Maksus
        Maksus 11 July 2016 12: 36
        0
        Quote: midivan
        Quote: Koronik
        So why can not I take my family to rest, where I like, where we really relax and where we are happy!

        where are you welcome? there you are happy with your money and do not flatter yourself into a personal account smile and when you read a scribble like yours, Lermontov’s lines are immediately recalled smile - Yes, there were people in our time,
        Not that the present tribe:
        Bogatyri - not you! wink

        Only in the time of Lermontov was it not shameful to go to Nice or to Baden-Baden, otherwise yes - the patriot is a man who has never been anywhere but already condemns. Throw bull-calves and bottles on the lawn, in my yard every morning I see traces of patriots)))
    6. Monarchist
      Monarchist 10 July 2016 08: 19
      0
      The diagnosis is clear: a turkophile and ... a stupid person. "... where we really rest and where we are welcome" there they are glad to have money, but they put on you! You claim that "the cry was raised as a PR, before the elections (I wonder who are" edriks "or" commies "?), Or try to play on the holy feelings of the Russians ... Now tell me, what is interesting in patriotism in the self-seeker? He gets paid for it, but who is this rich Buratino?
    7. Simon
      Simon 10 July 2016 09: 06
      0
      Oh! My friend! In this world, now politics, sports and recreation have long been mixed. Take the Americans, as they ranked meldonium for doping and now they are doing everything so that our athletes do not participate in the summer Olympic games. fool
    8. 73bor
      73bor 10 July 2016 09: 44
      0
      And I wasn’t, and I have to pile a large pile on the level of service, I do not need! Are you sure that you are welcome there? So when they put a grenade in one place, then we'll see where it’s more comfortable to relax, on my own sofa!
  7. bald
    bald 10 July 2016 07: 07
    +10
    In no case, do not send for them, in case of emergency, additional flights and the Ministry of Emergencies. Tourists must be notified about this. They know where they are going. Tailwind.
    1. Idiot
      Idiot 10 July 2016 08: 40
      0
      Quote: bald
      In no case, do not send for them, in case of emergency, additional flights and the Ministry of Emergencies. Tourists must be notified about this. They know where they are going. Tailwind.


      You can’t do that. The state is obliged to protect the interests of its citizens - all, without exception, holders of a passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation. Otherwise, such a state is worthless. And questions of morality and common sense should be discussed later, at home ...
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 10 July 2016 12: 06
        +2
        Quote: pft, fkb
        Quote: bald
        In no case, do not send for them, in case of emergency, additional flights and the Ministry of Emergencies. Tourists must be notified about this. They know where they are going. Tailwind.


        You can’t do that. The state is obliged to protect the interests of its citizens - all, without exception, holders of a passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation. Otherwise, such a state is worthless. And questions of morality and common sense should be discussed later, at home ...

        Well, why put off until tomorrow, what can be done today.
        In the kitchen, the whole family with a seagull, Discuss all the risks and delights. Then the head of the family: I made a decision, if that I answer. And here is the country?
        Ours are fighting in Syria, they need to be pulled out of trouble, and the brainless carcasses of greasy tourists can be left to the bodies of terrorists. Genetic diversion may result. After 50 years in Europe, the same brainless individuals will appear.
  8. MuadDib
    MuadDib 10 July 2016 07: 17
    +4
    Sometimes, it seems to me that Evil Ivan has a place on the culinary show. He gets cool salads from the information.
    But in one, Vanya is right. Conclusions about the number of tourists from Russia who traveled to Turkey can only be made in the fall. And even by the end of the year.
    1. Idiot
      Idiot 10 July 2016 08: 43
      +2
      What difference does it make how many Russians will go to Turkey, Spain, Thailand ... Some kind of unhealthy interest in you. The main thing is where you personally go. Or me. Whoever wants to, and fingering. And the interests of travel companies do not interest me at all.
  9. thinker
    thinker 10 July 2016 07: 21
    +11
    Quote: Koronik
    I do not understand the position of the author ...
    When it comes, it will be too late!
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 10 July 2016 07: 28
    +19
    This is called "Freedom of Choice". Nobody forbids anything anymore. If you want to go, go. You can already. Support the aggressor with a full dollar. Himself often went to this very Turetchina. Yes, the service is good. And the local people smile at you (for your "grandmother", mostly). They live mainly from this very tourism. Because a lot of money has been invested in all this. All along the coast. I liked the service there, and the well-trained staff, and the all-inclusive. But I DO NOT WANT MORE! And my girls - DO NOT WANT. Dad, they say, how can you, they killed our pilot! This is how, without dividing, the Turks from Erdogan. So - we will NOT go to Turkey. Neither with discounts nor without. Something like this. I have the honor.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 10 July 2016 07: 35
      +6
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      But DO NOT WANT MORE! And my girls - DO NOT WANT. Dad, they say how you can, they killed our pilot! So, without separating, the Turks from Erdogan.

      Well, nothing, many of them do not pay attention to such trifles.
      Quote: Koronik
      What these Russians are pathetic and insignificant. No memory, no conscience "stick it up your ass, our conscientious ones.

      Where the ass is warm, there’s no shit at home.
      1. Chisayna
        Chisayna 10 July 2016 07: 43
        +4
        Your last item is suitable for one nationality, who are the most "honest", "smart", who roam the world, and who have two or three passports: Canada, Australia, etc.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 10 July 2016 07: 43
        +5
        Quote: Vladimirets

        Where the ass is warm, there’s no shit at home.

        Eugene, yes, he bought a ticket to Turkey yesterday, and then there’s such an article on the site. Here he jumps out of his pants.
        Koronik, you are there, deliver the body to your homeland in the insurance box, otherwise it will not be good for you to return it from the budget.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 10 July 2016 07: 51
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          So he jumps out of his pants.

          Sasha, I don’t understand, from a word at all, of such people. request Service, conditions, cool, is it really impossible to relax somewhere besides Turkey? Does it have to be something in my head? Sometimes you regret that it’s not war and that it’s impossible under the laws of wartime ... My left the day before yesterday in Sochi. yes
          Sasha, thank you for deleting the comment, for which I felt sorry. recourse
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 10 July 2016 07: 55
            0
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Sasha, thank you for deleting the comment, for which I felt sorry.

            I'm afraid a dozen more will have to be removed, although he deserves it like no one else!
          2. Idiot
            Idiot 10 July 2016 08: 56
            +1
            Quote: Vladimirets
            My day before yesterday left for Sochi.


            They did it right. I don’t remember such a hot summer. By the way, the only resort in the world where the cops figure out what to do with themselves, due to the lack of crime. And they are really afraid, for this reason, of reduction. I wouldn’t jinx it ... And I’m going to the Crimea, working and resting. I know the purchase.
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 10 July 2016 09: 20
              0
              Quote: pft, fkb
              I'm going to the Crimea,

              My sister and my family will go to Crimea now, so that no one would be offended. smile
              1. guzik007
                guzik007 10 July 2016 09: 50
                +2
                My sister and my family will go to Crimea now, so that no one would be offended. smile
                -------------------------------
                Mine returned from Tauris yesterday. Another that soviet boarding house, diet food, very unobtrusive service, but for everything about everything together with the plane 30 tyrov for 8 days. Satisfied were, in general. Yes, and right, we have nothing to compare. In Turkey, have never been seen, and probably never will be.: =)
    2. Idiot
      Idiot 10 July 2016 08: 46
      -2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      for your "money", mostly


      Not for your grandmother, basically, but exclusively for your grandmother and nothing else. If you are not "Natasha", but that's another story.
    3. Stas157
      Stas157 10 July 2016 09: 35
      -1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And my girls - DO NOT WANT. Dad, they say how you can, they killed our pilot! So, without separating, the Turks from Erdogan. So - WE WILL NOT GO TO TURKEY.

      Same! We have been to Turkey many times, but now both the wife and the son categorically do not want to go to the Turks! As soon as my son found out about the fact that Putin had allowed Turkey, he immediately said: "Well, that Putin is a goat!" Ah, my wife said: "He's not normal! There has just been a terrorist attack there! Well, how is that possible ?!"
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 10 July 2016 09: 41
        +4
        Quote: Stas157
        We've just had a terrorist attack! Well, how can that be ?! "

        Do you distinguish between "allowed" and "forced"? request
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 10 July 2016 12: 16
          0
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Do you distinguish between "allowed" and "forced"?

          President, can people really get anything done? He can only allow and restrict. I do not like that Putin, in one case, in Egypt, he restricted travel, and in another, exactly the same, in Turkey, he allowed!
          And then, if, if resolved, the Russians will undermine ISIS, do you think Putin’s decision will have nothing to do with it anyway?
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 10 July 2016 12: 17
        -3
        Quote: Stas157
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        And my girls - DO NOT WANT. Dad, they say how you can, they killed our pilot! So, without separating, the Turks from Erdogan. So - WE WILL NOT GO TO TURKEY.

        Same! We have been to Turkey many times, but now both the wife and the son categorically do not want to go to the Turks! As soon as my son found out about the fact that Putin had allowed Turkey, he immediately said: "Well, that Putin is a goat!" Ah, my wife said: "He's not normal! There has just been a terrorist attack there! Well, how is that possible ?!"

        ! And you explain to them: flies from cutlets should be separated, although here and there calories. State policy is one thing and its decisions are not directly related to your family. Already a son and wife were dragged. Yes you are my friend Khodarkovets. (and again alone !!!! valerian would be for you)
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 10 July 2016 12: 56
          +3
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          ! And you explain to them

          Thank you for your advice, but I myself will figure out what and to whom to explain! The opinion of my family members I respect and share.

          Quote: Mavrikiy
          State policy is one thing and its decisions are not directly related to your family.

          Mine concern. I don’t know yours.

          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Already a son and wife were dragged.

          I didn’t drag you into anything! Do not like it, express your opinion! Explain what you disagree with. But, do not make me edification. This is a low tone.


          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Yes you are my friend Khodarkovets. (and again alone !!!! valerian would be for you)

          Rave Call me whatever you want!))) You saliva then, at the mouth, wipe!
      3. Winnie76
        Winnie76 10 July 2016 13: 24
        -2
        Quote: Stas157
        As soon as my son found out about the fact that Putin had allowed Turkey, he immediately said: "Well, that Putin is a goat!" Ah, my wife said: "He's not normal! There has just been a terrorist attack there! Well, how is that possible ?!"

        Oh God. The terrorist attack thundered. Our tourists - just go .. you. They will be blown up there for their own money. Resorts of the Chechen Republic are a completely different matter. This is where a true patriot should go to rest. Or in Sochi, where they’ll rip him off like sticky, swear - in our opinion, in Brazil
  11. Chisayna
    Chisayna 10 July 2016 07: 34
    +9
    It is necessary at the airport, before departure, to take receipts from tourists that he is warned about the consequences. And that he himself is responsible for his safety and the safety of his family. And he won’t cry on the reporter’s camera: send the Ministry of Emergency Situations plane.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 July 2016 07: 44
      0
      Quote: Chisain
      It is necessary at the airport, before departure, to take receipts from tourists that he was warned about the consequences.

      No, it’s better at the customs insurance policy from the state, to everyone’s hands -Delivery of the body to the homeland good
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 10 July 2016 15: 06
      +1
      Quote: Chisain
      It is necessary at the airport, before departure, to take receipts from tourists that he is warned about the consequences. And that he himself is responsible for his safety and the safety of his family. And he won’t cry on the reporter’s camera: send the Ministry of Emergency Situations plane.

      It's not gonna go. Erdogan will not understand!
  12. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 10 July 2016 07: 38
    +7
    And what, the Turks have stopped shredding refugees for spare parts for the militants, or do they just need a fresh salad - the idiots from our country who have gone for adventures to their boss? Does the all-inclusive package include a coffin, or is it for a fee?
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  14. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 10 July 2016 08: 06
    +8
    My personal opinion is that I have never traveled to any Turkey-Greece-Czech Republic-Canary-Egypt, and I’m not going to travel negative It is good where we are not, and the sun alone shines the same. You just need to be able to use it at your latitudes. The sand that Turkey, that in Pripyat warms up and warms the same and is equally crushed out of swimming trunks. And it is necessary to be some kind of a ram in order to give your tenge to some incomprehensibly what the aborigines are talking about in order to get something that you can have for free. lol Customs, flights, lying smiles, services with bedbugs, and the constant desire of local Aborigines to breed you and put on shoes for the loot ...
    Gentlemen, you have become an ordinary herd, sheep, from which grandmothers cut their hair and to which they sell glass. The budgets of entire countries are built on you, on the thoughts driven into your head that it’s better to relax there than at home. request Donkeys, they are donkeys in Africa ...
    I repeat - this is my personal opinion hi
    1. Idiot
      Idiot 10 July 2016 09: 05
      +2
      Quote: Rurikovich
      It is good where we are not, and the sun alone shines the same. You just need to be able to use it at your latitudes.


      You're right. The most interesting thing is that the Russian Federation is the only country on the planet where there is EVERYTHING. More than in Greece and each creature in pairs.
    2. lockout
      lockout 10 July 2016 15: 26
      +1
      Is that sarcasm, hope?
    3. Maksus
      Maksus 11 July 2016 14: 54
      0
      What, problems with filling out a foreign sports questionnaire? Sorry....
  15. AlexSK
    AlexSK 10 July 2016 08: 22
    +6
    Never traveled and not going to. I’m not bad at home. South edge.
  16. isker
    isker 10 July 2016 08: 26
    +4
    Personally, I, unlike Putin, did not reconcile with Turkey ... Perhaps I would have accepted his "point of view" if he openly admitted and announced what exactly he was able to bargain with Turkey for its meanness and, if the reward turns out acceptable, then - the bar with "hatred" could have dropped to the level of "indifference", but for now ...
    As for the sufferers who work all year under the scorching sun and have no other joy, as soon as they relax in Turkey, I can say one thing: Russia is a large country and there are more and more non-people in it ... you are the one who treats that no matter what you say!
  17. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 10 July 2016 08: 32
    +7
    Once again I write ... I am against rapprochement with the Turks. They are enemies to us. And to me personally they are enemies. And those who carry money to feed enemies are also enemies.
    In case of terrorist attacks do not take out. Let yourself go on mattresses.
    For me, these people are not shaking hands.
    But I didn’t hear anything intelligible from the Turks. Ivan really says that something was slurred, and our people skipped ... Personally, I don’t understand this hasty reticence of our authorities ... Is it a tricky plan again? Or is it someone else’s business?
    I have no answer.
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 10 July 2016 08: 36
      +1
      Quote: Barkhan
      Once again I write ... I am against rapprochement with the Turks. They are enemies to us. And to me personally they are enemies. And those who carry money to feed enemies are also enemies.

      I absolutely agree and disgusting at heart ...
  18. _umka_
    _umka_ 10 July 2016 08: 48
    -4
    Personally, I did not spoil my biography by Turkey, but let others not hide the stamp in your passport - this is a stigma for life.
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 10 July 2016 08: 53
      +1
      Quote: _umka_
      Personally, I did not spoil my biography by Turkey, but let others not hide the stamp in your passport - this is a stigma for life.

      The stigma of the fifth column ....
  19. grandfather Mih
    grandfather Mih 10 July 2016 08: 48
    0
    Quote: user1212
    Such a view, of course, is too radical, and so you can go far. But posting patriotic photos, messages, whimpering about the collapse of the army in the Russian Federation and the strengthening of the army of opponents is much easier than supporting your country and army with a blood ruble, right?
    Why too radical. Normal and true (for me). Improving my vocabulary. So I think it is appropriate to supplement "and s.c-tourism" in the presence of licentiousness and moral degradation.
  20. KRIG55
    KRIG55 10 July 2016 08: 52
    -2
    America has done its job .... What is the conscience when it is cheap and "All inclusive"? One can only envy the patriotism that was in the forties. Alas, this is already history.
  21. SNIF
    SNIF 10 July 2016 09: 24
    -2
    "Medvedev gave a week to develop proposals for charters to Turkey." Oh, how, Dmitry Anatolyich is in a hurry. And what about the people? - for the most part, it is no different from the power that chatters like a Markitanian boat, without a rudder and turned. Therefore, the dissatisfaction of the patriots with the irresponsibility of some citizens is incomprehensible. Have you chosen those who cannot instill in society "what is good - what is bad"? So get crowds of tourists to the enemy and ridicule of the liberal public. Deserved
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 10 July 2016 11: 05
      +2
      Quote: SNIF
      from the power that chatters like a Markitan boat, without a helm and turned

      - what is a "supply boat"?
      - and why is she "without a rudder and sails"?

      Mercatante is a merchant (Italian), respectively, a marketer is a merchant, in the modern sense, it is the merchant following the army
      1. SNIF
        SNIF 10 July 2016 13: 40
        0
        What? It fully reflects the essence of the power of the Russian Federation. Traders. Something I have not heard that the party and the government by a strong-willed decision during the confrontation with Turkey blocked the "Blue Stream". So, only little things were cut for the people - tomatoes, resorts. What great fellows. And shakes them in the same way, no strategy - it's not clear where else they will moor. They quickly quarrel - quickly reconcile. For me, they would not go into Syria like that - there was no conflict with Turkey. And they ran into it in a stupid way - first the Turks shot down an unknown drone, then Erdogan warned - do not fly in the border areas. Putin did not heed. He joked with something like: "we are visiting you." Have reached
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 10 July 2016 13: 48
          0
          Quote: SNIF
          Something I have not heard that the party and the government by a strong-willed decision during the confrontation with Turkey blocked the "Blue Stream"

          - "to spite my grandmother, I will frostbite my ears"? You are not from Ukraine, by any chance?

          Quote: SNIF
          trifles were cut for the people - tomatoes, resorts

          - these "little things" were enough, nevertheless
          - resorts for the Turks, by the way, are not "trifles". This is just for information wink

          Quote: SNIF
          For me they didn’t climb into Syria - the conflict did not happen with Turkey

          - for sure. And in general, if you don’t go outside, you will never be crushed ... by a tram, for example fool

          About the "supply boat" better specify .. everything else that you write here is somehow ... uninteresting. Somewhere I have already read and heard all this many times.

          But the "supply boat" is fresh and new good
          1. SNIF
            SNIF 10 July 2016 14: 13
            -1
            No case, not from Ukraine. "Blue Stream" is "to spite my grandmother's ears, I'll get frostbitten" and tomatoes and resorts are not to spite grandma? How do you distinguish? How did Vladimir Vladimirovich decide? - and you there too?)
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 10 July 2016 14: 29
              0
              Quote: SNIF
              No case, not from Ukraine. "Blue Stream" is "to spite my grandmother's ears, I'll get frostbitten" and tomatoes and resorts are not to spite grandma? How do you distinguish?

              - by the ratio (Losses for the Turkish economy) / (Losses for the Russian economy)
              - the greater the ratio, the better

              Obviously not? wink
              1. SNIF
                SNIF 10 July 2016 15: 15
                -5
                Obviously, traders will consider economic losses. Instead of squeezing Turkey to a normal apology. It is consistent with the behavior of the Markitan boat)
                1. Cat man null
                  Cat man null 10 July 2016 16: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: V.I. Lenin PSS vol. 42 p. 217
                  ... politics is the most concentrated expression of the economy

                  That is:

                  - the economy is primary
                  - politics is determined by the economy, and not vice versa

                  So?

                  Quote: SNIF
                  Obviously, traders will consider economic losses. Instead of squeezing Turkey to a normal apology

                  - exactly yes
                  - Will you write Lenin into the "traders" too? Nu-nu ...

                  Markitan, damn it, boat laughing
                  1. SNIF
                    SNIF 10 July 2016 16: 33
                    -1
                    Just tell me, how much, according to your estimates, we will not buy a tomato from the USA if, for example, they sink one of our ships? How many tons will these discussions become relevant, appropriate and lead to a warming of relations between our countries?)
                    1. Cat man null
                      Cat man null 10 July 2016 16: 46
                      -1
                      Quote: SNIF
                      blah blah blah...

                      - no, you go on, go on yes
                  2. SNIF
                    SNIF 10 July 2016 19: 49
                    -2
                    Vladimir Ilyich head! I would say exactly how much "Admiral Kuznetsov" is worth in tomatoes. For some reason you do not undertake to calculate) How, by the way, in Russia with the economy, which is primary? If we allow ourselves an adventure like the Crimean or Syrian, it must be good. No "there is no money, but you stand by!") According to the statement of Lenin, cited by you, to politically aggravate relations with the economies of the NATO bloc countries is nonsense. Or not? Of course, I understand - don't feed you with bread - you won't hold back at home, let me get under the tram) But Lenin is against)
          2. SNIF
            SNIF 10 July 2016 14: 20
            0
            These "little things" were enough for what? - to accept Erdogan's letter as an apology? Throwing yourself under the tram is your method. As I understand you, it's better than not going outside)
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 10 July 2016 14: 30
              0
              Quote: SNIF
              Your method. As I understand you ...

              - go the right way, continue ...
      2. lelikas
        lelikas 10 July 2016 16: 24
        +3
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        - what is a "supply boat"?

        This quote :)))
        - Tell me, ham, for a long time we will wag like a maritime boat? I swear by thunder, I’m tired of the captain to death! Enough to command me! I want to live in the captain’s cabin, I need their pickles and wines. (C) R. Stevenson "Treasure Island".
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 10 July 2016 16: 40
          +3
          Quote: lelikas
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          - what is a "supply boat"?

          This quote :)))
          - Tell me, ham, for a long time we will wag like a maritime boat? I swear by thunder, I’m tired of the captain to death! Enough to command me! I want to live in the captain’s cabin, I need their pickles and wines. (C) R. Stevenson "Treasure Island".

          Cool! good

          Did not know thanks yes

          There is still a continuation, well, right for the comrade SNIF... I can not deny myself the pleasure, here it is:

          Quote: Treasure Island by R. Stevenson
          - Israel, - said Silver, - your head is very inexpensive because it never had brains...
  22. Darth Revan
    Darth Revan 10 July 2016 09: 32
    +2
    Turkey is an enemy for me. And the point. But consumers and deboids do not understand this. The main thing for them is what? Swell, lean on the sand and warm your belly fool For me it’s not fellow citizens, for me it is rubbish under my feet. You can accuse me of anything you want, but that’s my position. And yet - I am a Stalinist, homophobe, nationalist, netolerast and Lord of the Sith! laughing
    1. terrama
      terrama 10 July 2016 10: 58
      -6
      From the very beginning, the conflict with Turkey is a political event. Our pilot was set up by our own leadership. What did you have to wait until they knocked down? Only then did they deploy air defense and cover the sky. Only then the fighters relocated. And before that, it was clear that the Turks would react when their gas tankers destroy them? That is, according to the senses, the pilot was a bargaining chip in the political game. And then Russia backtracked without completing the case. Then the President opened Turkey. So the question is not in citizens and not even patriotism is a question in the political game.
      If We betrayed our homeland by destroying the USSR, then what are we waiting for? We betrayed our ideals and now everything is for money and for the sake of money. And if everything is for the sake of money and internal politics instills such an attitude in us, then a trip to Turkey does not stand out from the general logic. And that gentlemen, patriots, you do not ask the question "Why are low-cost airlines not flying to Crimea?" After all, it is necessary to support our manufacturer, so that denyuzhka does not leave the country.
      I decided for myself that I won’t go to Turkey, for sure this year. But it’s also not worth condemning anyone.
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 10 July 2016 11: 40
        +1
        Quote: terrama
        Our pilot was set up by our own leadership ...

        - not "our leadership", but our own bosses

        Quote: terrama
        then Russia backtracked without completing the case

        - How do you know - "having finished", "not having finished"?

        Quote: terrama
        We betrayed our homeland by destroying the USSR ... We betrayed ideals ...

        - for yourself, aphid, speak ... I just betrayed no one ...

        Quote: terrama
        Why don't you patriots ask yourself the question "Why don't low-cost airlines fly to Crimea?"

        - in Crimea, people (hotel and others) froze slightly. Take an interest in prices, and everything will become clear for you yes

        Quote: terrama
        it is necessary to support our manufacturer, it is necessary that the denyuzhka did not leave the country

        - but not when, conditionally, they feed them with straw, and they take money, as for ... hamon, YYYYYYY laughing laughing laughing

        In short, minus negative
        1. terrama
          terrama 10 July 2016 16: 51
          -3
          We then need to know that the helicopter pilots also burned down. The offensive has stopped. And now it’s not clear who is the militant and who is moderate. Let me remind you, a new Russian history has already shown us a similar approach, for example, during the fighting in the Republic of Chechnya.
          And dear, you are immediately offended, which is not very cultural. USSR is not a fact. And for myself I can say that due to age I could not participate in political life.
          Oh, how the people froze. I was interested in prices and even personally rested there. And the people have nothing to do with it.
          You didn’t even understand what I said, but I said the following there are no low-cost airlines since the state cannot create conditions for domestic tourism. There are no low-cost airlines since the planes are rented and as soon as they fly there there will be no low-cost airline. These are the conditions we have for a long time. The funny thing is that the banks never came. Sberbank even through the Internet bank is afraid to serve its customers. This is what is called for money and a hail of money.
      2. Parsec
        Parsec 10 July 2016 11: 50
        +2
        Quote: terrama
        What did you have to wait until they knocked down? Only then did they deploy air defense and cover the sky. Only then the fighters relocated.


        There was an agreement with the Turks. Several months flew exactly along this route, no problem. Air defense and fighter planes at Khmeimim were deployed with the start of the operation.

        A blow in the back destroys our bomber precisely for violation of the agreement.

        And no matter how you boil with saliva, you still talk about a trip to Turkey, even against the backdrop of all partioic rhetoric.
        1. terrama
          terrama 10 July 2016 16: 36
          -2
          A plane was shot down on November 24th. http://www.interfax.ru/world/481166
          November 25, the decision to transfer https://www.bfm.ru/news/309019
          Arrangements were. And it’s not clear when the military operation is going on. The Russian general trusts the agreements with the country that finances the enemy.
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  23. South
    South 10 July 2016 11: 21
    +2
    He said everything correctly, there is no more confidence in Turkey! I won’t be surprised if they throw something like that with a plane! Judah ...
  24. alfa19638
    alfa19638 10 July 2016 11: 48
    -1
    Our liberals will make peace with anyone, if only profit in their own pocket about pride, integrity and honor is not even discussed.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 10 July 2016 12: 05
      +3
      Quote: alfa19638
      Our liberals will make peace with anyone, if only profit in their own pocket about pride, integrity and honor is not even discussed.

      - Have you read the article, in general?

      The reconciliation with Turkey happened unexpectedly and swiftly. This rarely happens in geopolitics. I do not know all the information, but I can guess that between Russia and Turkey a lot of urgent and urgent problems have arisen. Which in conditions of severe confrontation simply could not be solved.

      Therefore, Turkey quickly made a crumpled apology. And Russia quickly accepted them. It is clear that all this was agreed in advance. The final technical details are still being clarified. I have no doubt that Turkey will pay Russia material compensation in one form or another. In response, Russia lifts the ban on tourists visiting Turkey. The food embargo will also be lifted gradually.
      Yeah, those are the tomatoes.

      Пabout the latest data, Turkey refuses to support ISIS and begins to infringe on terroristswho before that felt comfortable and carefree in Turkish territory. How serious is all this, time will tell.

      - Or do you disagree with what the respected author of the article writes? fool
  25. -СтрР° РЅРЅРёРє-
    0
    J. Kedmi: "If Putin gets Turkey to stop supporting the enemies of Assad, he will drive the last nail into the coffin of the Syrian opposition." http://www.iton.tv/art/6043/Ya-Kedmi-Putin-zabet-poslednij-gvozd-v-grob-sirijsko

    j-oppoziczii /

    "Russia's foreign policy does not depend on emotions or grievances. It is built only on strict calculation" http://www.iton.tv/art/6079/Ya-Kedmi-Vneshnyaya-politika-Rossii-stroitsya-na-str

    ogom-rasschete /

    It is interesting to listen to a man who is well-versed in backroom games.
    And the Emergencies Ministry will have to save these (I don't even know what to call it) for only one reason - there is always at least one, but there will be a child! And perhaps a real patriot will later grow out of him - "Russia does not abandon her own!" hi
  26. sgapich
    sgapich 10 July 2016 12: 31
    +3
    But I would take a walk around Constantinople, only not one travel company provides the opportunity for such trips. I do not understand beach tours. But in a week we’re going to rafting along the Zhom-Bolok - Oka (Sayanskaya) route.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 10 July 2016 16: 48
      0
      Quote: sgapich
      But I would take a walk around Constantinople

      Who was praised, a very interesting city. They thought to go, but the time is such that it is better to wait.
      Quote: sgapich
      I do not understand beach tours.

      I myself am so! Lying around under the sun is a waste of time, and looking at an unfamiliar country is a completely different matter hi
  27. ramzes1776
    ramzes1776 10 July 2016 14: 27
    -5
    Quote: Simon
    I also want to add that for the entire time of the coexistence of Turkey and Russia, we have never had peace with Turkey and it seems that friendship will never be with them. The Turks always attacked us, and then they arranged a provocation. Where is the guarantee that the Ishilians at camp sites and beaches will not arrange terrorist attacks. request

    If there are terrorist attacks against Russian tourists (and they most likely will be, mattresses and Co. will not be tempted to take advantage of this), then Putin’s rating will fly swiftly down, since these deaths will be 90% on his conscience.
  28. ramzes1776
    ramzes1776 10 July 2016 15: 03
    0
    Quote: Simon
    I also want to add that for the entire time of the coexistence of Turkey and Russia, we have never had peace with Turkey and it seems that friendship will never be with them. The Turks always attacked us, and then they arranged a provocation. Where is the guarantee that the Ishilians at camp sites and beaches will not arrange terrorist attacks. request

    If there are terrorist attacks against Russian tourists (and they most likely will be, mattresses and Co. will not be tempted to take advantage of this), then Putin’s rating will fly swiftly down, since these deaths will be 90% on his conscience.
    Quote: guzik007
    My sister and my family will go to Crimea now, so that no one would be offended. smile
    -------------------------------
    Mine returned from Tauris yesterday. Another that soviet boarding house, diet food, very unobtrusive service, but for everything about everything together with the plane 30 tyrov for 8 days. Satisfied were, in general. Yes, and right, we have nothing to compare. In Turkey, have never been seen, and probably never will be.: =)

    A week ago we arrived from a military sanatorium in Feodosia. We paid only 21 tyrov for two for 3 days with 28 meals a day. For the plane, too, 28 round-trip, followed by compensation from the Ministry of Defense. Well, 50 went for entertainment and excursions. In short for these I had a rest for 21 days so that I don’t want to go to the sea at the end) Now every year I will drive to military sanatoriums. All Greece and Cyprus are not needed in FIG. As for holidays in Turkey, there is no such country for me.
    1. terrama
      terrama 10 July 2016 16: 52
      0
      Can share a link to the sanatorium?
  29. Old
    Old 10 July 2016 17: 05
    +1
    For all readers of this site the issue of vacation in Turkey is closed for a long time. But in the country there are a lot of apolitical people, they will go. But the past flow will be gone.
  30. vonWolfenstein
    vonWolfenstein 10 July 2016 18: 55
    -2
    And after such hasty "forgiveness" and such forgivingness, people are still surprised - Why don't they respect us? 13 years ago, when France did not support the United States in the war against Saddam Hussein, ordinary Americans themselves massively boycotted French restaurants and eateries that they were completely empty. And then there are charters, olincclusive, Antalya. It's called spitting on graves.
  31. Mentat
    Mentat 10 July 2016 19: 04
    0
    Quote: Haettenschweiler
    Quote: Chariton
    Those who go to Turkey to relax are a spit on the grave of our deceased pilot!


    That is, to m ... a duck who sent this pilot to a foreign country in general, there are no questions?

    You stuck a hero with medals on your avatar, and you probably have “questions” for the Soviet soldiers who hoisted the flag over the Reichstag. Why did these Stalin send them to another country?
    Your nutrace is visible in all its glory.
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  33. ramzes1776
    ramzes1776 10 July 2016 19: 46
    0
    Quote: terrama
    Can share a link to the sanatorium?

    www.feo-rest.wmsite.ru
  34. Mentat
    Mentat 10 July 2016 19: 59
    -1
    Quote: Winnie76
    Quote: user1212
    Tourists annually export millions of dollars to Turkish banks, thus YOU sponsor the genocide of the Kurdish population, arm the terrorists from among the pro-Turkish population of Syria and provide the Turkish Air Force with new fighters. But why think about it if the sun is not killing you all around?

    Ok, the logic is clear.

    The logic is understandable, and you are engaged in demagogy to justify your warming up the belly in Turkey and your unscrupulousness.

    Volkswagen bought a little bu - sponsor the Reich

    What other Reich, are you all right? Germany does not bring down our planes.

    bought, God forbid, Jeep - sponsor mattresses

    Many do not really buy American cars.

    bought a Toyota - sponsor Nato.

    Japan does not drown our ships.
    Your demagoguery is sewn with white thread.

    Or the tablet on which you write (???)?

    Sony, for example.

    Everything that you write is called in one word: "self-justification." But why, go to a new level, just go to Turkey, the warmed belly is primary, but finally win the green card in the lottery.
  35. Enoch
    Enoch 10 July 2016 20: 21
    +1
    It's bad that children are taken with them. For they themselves do not like Russia, and their belly is their pitiful choice, it is a pity that children can "suffer" from the lack of "intelligence and conscience" of their parents, or later they will do the same.
  36. Cat man null
    Cat man null 10 July 2016 20: 24
    0
    Quote: user1212
    You can look at your trips to Turkey in another way.

    - try to try. Only not mine - I have never been to Turkey, and I will not be

    Quote: user1212
    Tourists annually export millions of dollars to Turkish banks, thus YOU sponsor the genocide of the Kurdish population, arm the terrorists from among the pro-Turkish population of Syria and provide the Turkish Air Force with new fighters

    Whoa.

    - tourists take out money and pay for the hotel, food and other entertainment. Not "to the banks"
    - that is, "weapons of terrorists in Syria" and "new fighters" - past the box office
    - "genocide of the Kurdish population" - the Kurds are for the Turks, this is about the same as Chechnya (was) and Dagestan (is now) for the Russian Federation. There are no angels with white wings among the Kurds, I assure you. As, however, and among the Turks. Such a normal get-together, protracted, really request

    Quote: user1212
    are you selling your homeland for cheap booze and turkish grub? How are you different from the late Poteev?

    - definitely not me (I have already said that I have not been to Turkey, and I will not go). But those who go there - they certainly do not sell their homeland
    - They differ from Poteev in that Poteev was convicted by the court for treason. Tourists are not condemned. And they will not, "due to the absence of corpus delicti in their actions"

    Quote: user1212
    Accusing the thieves in power, which there are certainly a lot of, of withdrawing money from the country, why are you doing the same thing without any remorse?

    Whoa.

    - "thieves in power" are not involved in "withdrawing money from the country"
    - completely different people do this
    - by the way, I have the impression that you do not really understand what "money withdrawal" is. I would like to be wrong, of course ...
    - tourists are not engaged in "withdrawing money". Exactly.

    Quote: user1212
    Such a view, of course, is excessively radical and so you can go far...

    - yes wrong word
    - glad you understand that yes

    Something like that.
  37. Mentat
    Mentat 10 July 2016 21: 39
    -1
    Quote: Mentat
    Quote: Haettenschweiler
    Quote: Chariton
    Those who go to Turkey to relax are a spit on the grave of our deceased pilot!


    That is, to m ... a duck who sent this pilot to a foreign country in general, there are no questions?

    You stuck a hero with medals on your avatar, and you probably have “questions” for the Soviet soldiers who hoisted the flag over the Reichstag. Why did these Stalin send them to another country?
    Your nutrace is visible in all its glory.

    And so, minus? Is it true that pricking little eyes? Your president is m ... duck, but who are you and what? What are you like? A lost sheep in the best case, and in the worst - a corrupt bitch who is well aware of what the “liberals” will bring to power (Navalny, quote: “Russia needs a revolution like Cairo’s”), but ready for its pennies sell everyone and everything.
  38. Mentat
    Mentat 10 July 2016 21: 46
    +1
    Quote: Mentat
    Everything that you write is called in one word: "self-justification." But why, go to a new level, just go to Turkey, the warmed belly is primary, but finally win the green card in the lottery.

    What, and this minus? And I'm not going to breed polites. This government is forced to clothe its messages in streamlined maxims: citizens have the right to choose - this is true, and this is the highest principle. However, nothing prevents me, personally me, from calling by my own names those who made this choice.
  39. Starik72
    Starik72 10 July 2016 22: 53
    0
    Du% ak - counts, yeah cheap, the service is excellent, I'll go relax and have fun, not thinking about the consequences. Smart - he will think, weigh everything, estimate all the pros and cons, and decide not to go, life is more expensive. I don’t feel sorry for fools, it’s a shame that every year there are more and more of them, and not only the state suffers from them, but and ordinary people. This is my opinion, please do not judge strictly. Regards.
  40. vik669
    vik669 11 July 2016 09: 08
    0
    PCT about Erdogan's apology: "We all squealed with joy" - for complete happiness, it remains only to grunt!
  41. sinys
    sinys 11 July 2016 11: 42
    +2
    Never been abroad and especially not torn. Resting in my seas. I agree with the author, tour operators immediately began selling vouchers. And the fact that even planes do not even care for them ... And our people are not so stupid I hope.
    1. Maksus
      Maksus 11 July 2016 15: 18
      0
      Why, a problem with the Russian language when filling out the questionnaire?
  42. VladimS
    VladimS 11 July 2016 15: 07
    +3
    Quote: ramzes1776
    If there are terrorist attacks against Russian tourists (and they most likely will be, mattresses and Co. will not be tempted to take advantage of this), then Putin’s rating will fly swiftly down, since these deaths will be 90% on his conscience.

    Only partly true!
    Who with his head in frets and worries about their loved ones ..- they will not go.
    And the best confirmation would be empty charters to Turkey!
    They would have stopped flying. Empty flights didn't benefit them
    And the government is not at work ... just the people do not want !!!
    1. lukewarm
      lukewarm 12 July 2016 09: 13
      0
      I agree with you, but fantastic ... Alas. The people have not yet become the people. The majority are contingent, electorate, taxpayers. Anyone, but not the people yet. They become people after experiencing trials, having a common idea, pride, mutual assistance, patriotism again. In the meantime, in the first place "I plowed, I was supposed to", "olinclusive" and so on ... Alas. There will be no empty charters.
  43. 97110
    97110 11 July 2016 15: 14
    +2
    And in the leadership of Russia no one will relate to Turkey with the same confidence.
    And who pinned the board, too?
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  45. t118an
    t118an 11 July 2016 19: 01
    +1
    What ??? Beckoned the People .. As it does not grow together .. we attract to our resorts .. and then the Enemies .. opened .. Well, fly ... There in the sky, Hero of Russia Oleg Peshkov will not be visible to you ... ..To the top ... I’m in .. you’re there yourself, then on the top, move it or not ... "patriots" ...... Somehow here I have, I personally have the journalists killed and the pilots .. the dead ..associated ... No, that you .. fly .. relax .... a lot of tomatoes .. soon they will return to Russia ..
    1. pafegosoff
      pafegosoff 12 July 2016 07: 12
      -1
      That's when patriots rip you off like sticky, that's good.
      Here the golden youth of innocent children with grandmothers knocks down cars.
      It's good! This is patriotic! They kill their own. They can even be fined for it. Or assign one year conditionally for each killed.
      A military man was killed in a war, this is a crime!
      And a Russian citizen was killed near the house - this is an accident ...
      Let’s appreciate all the people, because one is a hero, and the other is dead, a Russian citizen is just a corpse and no more.
      1. lukewarm
        lukewarm 12 July 2016 09: 07
        0
        Here is your next post, plus, and then .... I just suffered a swamp. What do you confuse warm with soft, dear? By thoughtlessness or by a training manual or is your head really arranged like that? Why juggle? By your logic, if a person killed in the staircase is a corpse, is it that he who died in battle is not a hero? And the golden youth was dragged. Is it an equal sign to patriotism? Are they the patriots? Here on VO there is a good article on this topic, very fresh, like your pickles with horseflies from the next post. And take care of your hands. From shovels of corn, you know. It’s necessary to fill the cellar, hamster ... Good luck. At the cottage.
        1. pafegosoff
          pafegosoff 12 July 2016 22: 57
          0
          I wanted to explain the cynicism that had developed over the years, but ... There were enough incidents of accidents, a participant or witness of which I would have been enough for a two-volume. And they were terrible, tragic, comic, funny ... There were fair assessments and undeserved accusations or glorifications. But more often people died due to some gouging.
          Well? Where is the one who did not provide cover for the Su-24? What was awarded to him? Remember Mayakovsky: "Glory, glory, glory to the heroes! However, enough tribute has been given to them. Let's talk about rubbish" ...
          It was then that I remembered the silences in car accidents. Those. the heroes were publicly named, but those who sent "tanks to the minefield" were absolutely quieted down. Somehow all this ... And what about the calluses. I cut down two houses and somehow manage without mittens. As for the hamster, we have a family of eleven people. The youngest is one and a half, the oldest is 93. And we don't abandon anyone. We feed from seven acres. And I think that still 30% of our population would have died without vegetable gardens.
          We are surviving. And we wish you that.
  46. t118an
    t118an 11 July 2016 19: 19
    0
    Admin .. and why cut a piece .. let the minus ... They support .. Enemies ..
  47. Erg
    Erg 12 July 2016 00: 04
    0
    Yes, the flag in hand, and the wind in the well ... Let them have a rest because they have worked so hard, they deserve it. Just think, some pilot was shot down there ... Well, let him put his life down for you. For your children. And what do they understand? Yes, no more than you ... Go, have fun, because for you the Alland exclusive is more than what your grandfathers laid down their heads for. Only I, personally, am against that, if anything, the Ministry of Emergency Situations was sent in order to save the mindless and unprincipled mold, instead of not collecting a miserable million for the "first" for the treatment of "Vanya" or "Oli", which are least of all thinking about vacation in Turkey ...
  48. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 12 July 2016 06: 33
    +2
    Firstly, I have not been to Turkey and I will not.
    Secondly, those who cannot live without the sea: oil workers, officials of state enterprises and state ministries, judges, prosecutors (medium), small businessmen, pensioners from the "former", - they preferred to relax in Turkey or Egypt or the Emirates, - inexpensive and everything else , there is also Bulgaria and Greece with Cyprus, but the closer to the center of Europe, the more expensive.
    Thirdly: our Russian resorts are famous for infernal prices, illegal fees, worst service, boorish attitude, the wild price of tickets for Russia.
    Therefore, with the resumption of tourism to Turkey, tours to other places have suddenly become cheaper. Those. Russian "businessmen" can only be spurred on by the threat of bankruptcy.
    In our south of Western Siberia, a ticket to a local holiday home is one and a half times more expensive than flying back and forth in Turkey.
    Such is the "patriotism".
    And then the berries went, just have time to collect, but fight off horseflies. Roasting, it is necessary to water. Cucumbers, radish from the garden. Numerous grandchildren require vitamins and carbohydrates with proteins for normal growth. The cellar has been packed to capacity since the fall, and now it is already aired: everyone ate it all themselves. And buy all this: carrots, beets, cabbage, apples - half a ton; cherries, strawberries, currants, raspberries - in the center. Potatoes - tons and a half. Yes, and when, if not in the summer to repair, build, dig?
    So Turkey is for patriots, but for ordinary people, not for patriotism ...
  49. AllXVahhaB
    AllXVahhaB 12 July 2016 07: 50
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    Let's put aside emotions and look from the point of view of a hard worker who has been plowing all year and wants to have a good rest. Crimea - over the year it has only gotten worse, the number of tourists has increased many times, the infrastructure is not coping, the beaches are littered and no one is cleaning them, the prices are almost like in Moscow, while the quality of service is none !!! Sochi - to relax in a decent hotel is more expensive than on the Mediterranean Sea, the budget sector is represented by three-storey hotels standing on private plots, in which even the sewage system is not designed for such a volume - you wash in the shower ankle-deep in water and the prices are also not encouraging. Cyprus and Greece are not a large sector and the service is also inferior to the Turkish ... And remember Turkey - 5-star hotels are an inexpensive norm, if you want - a quiet family hotel and also not expensive, constant animators, excursions, jeep safaris, etc. Everything is included - they watered and fed so that I got better by a few kilograms, all this for the same little money ... And most importantly - the servants of the tourists, really licked them, blown away the dust particles! Can't we create anything like this? "Religion" does not allow? So the average consumer will choose what is better and cheaper for him! For a long time on patriotism, in this area, you will not leave! If a normal service and infrastructure is not created in Crimea, the tourist will choose another direction!
    1. Erg
      Erg 13 July 2016 22: 52
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      Quote: AllXVahhaB
      Long on patriotism, in this area, you will not leave! If in the Crimea will not be created

      As I understand it, whoever throws money - I’m serving him, where it’s cheaper - the Motherland is there wassat Do not forget to tell children and grandchildren that memory is measured in money and profit. Take care of yourself.
      1. AllXVahhaB
        AllXVahhaB 15 July 2016 15: 25
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        Quote: Erg
        As I understand it, who will throw money - I serve him where it is cheaper - there is also the Homeland. Do not forget to tell children and grandchildren that memory is measured by money and profit. Take care of yourself.

        Well, if you do not understand, I’ll explain, for those not particularly gifted: I earn money myself and here, in the North, it is difficult, but without "throwing"! But to spend your hard earned, let me where I decide for myself !!! Or rather - where I will be offered the best, in terms of price / quality ratio! Do not obsess, but we live in capitalism and if you haven't noticed, then our government is the First Liberal Capitalist !!! Therefore, if the "deer" in the Crimea are not able to create an appropriate service, then no matter how much they shout hurray-patriotic slogans, I will go to rest in another place!
        And I serve, as always to Russia, just give me "cutlets separately, bah flies separately" (c) ...)))
      2. AllXVahhaB
        AllXVahhaB 15 July 2016 15: 43
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        Quote: Erg
        As I understand it, whoever throws money - I’m serving him, where it’s cheaper - the Motherland is there

        If you do not understand, explain completely simply: I serve the Motherland, and not the owners of hotels, which even cannot establish basic services! They are then related to the homeland ???
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  50. lukewarm
    lukewarm 12 July 2016 08: 59
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    Yes, I agree. Patriotism is not a rag that can and should be used to plug holes in the sewers. The sewer needs to be repaired. Patriotic. But with this we have big problems. About a hard worker who plowed for a year. Yes, alas. It is a pity that a huge number of people behind "plowing" prefer not to see further than their trough. Communicated with such, their SEA ... What is an enemy country to them, what is a pilot for them ... More than a quarter of a century they made people out of people, instilling simple "truths" of instincts: grasping, shoving, chewing (look with the eye of the malakhovs, house -2) and so on. Now they seem to have taken up the ideology. Maybe someone will be able to reason with it (if not too late) But the generation is lost - that's for sure. Only "democratic bombing" can clear our brains. And even then ... "Katz will offer to surrender." They will say that they themselves deserved it, like they were doing it, they had to go to bed right away and push everything that moves apart. Moreover, the authorities, by their strange inconsistency, are destroying their own propaganda. It remains to follow the advice of Ivan Pobeda:
    And yes, believe in your people and your country. I believe that Russians, of all nationalities, are able to make informed decisions on their own, without instructions from the authorities. I know that the majority of Russians will not go to raise the economy of a hostile state with their money. And Turkey was and remains our enemy.
    Therefore, real Russians will not go there to rest. For them, the concept of Honor and Conscience is above the full belly.

    It remains only to believe ....
    1. Erg
      Erg 13 July 2016 22: 58
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      Hands and feet "FOR"! And to many "tired", well, like, in need of rest, I want to remind you that not everything is measured in money ...
      1. AllXVahhaB
        AllXVahhaB 15 July 2016 15: 31
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        Quote: Erg
        I want to remind you - not everything is measured in money ...

        Hedgehogs thought when they pricked, cried, but continued to eat a cactus wink
        If the Crimean officials are not able to simply organize the cleaning of the beaches, what do you suggest? To lie in shit with a patriotic feeling and think that "not everything is measured by money" ???
        You, by the way, are not from Ukraine, with your assaults and overwork ???