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Media: Syrian Mi-24 shot down in the area of ​​Palmyra

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Not far from Palmyra, IG fighters shot down a Syrian Air Force Mi-24 helicopter, the fate of the crew is unknown, reports Interfax.


Russian attack helicopters Mi-24 at Khmeimim airfield

“The Mi-24 helicopter of the Syrian Armed Forces is lost in the Palmyra region. He was shot down by terrorists from the ground, ”a military source told the agency.

“The fate of the crew is not yet known,” he added.

Yesterday, terrorists, through their agency Amaq, stated that they managed to shoot down a Russian helicopter in the countryside east of Palmyra. However, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation denied this information.

“All Russian helicopter gunships in the Syrian Arab Republic returned to the airfields after completing the planned missions. There are no losses of Russian aircraft, ”the department said.

The Russian military at the same time reported that in 40 kilometers north-west of Palmyra, the IG units made several unsuccessful attempts to dislodge government troops from their positions.

“During the day, ISIS militants, with fire support of mortars and pickups with anti-aircraft guns ZU-23, repeatedly attacked the positions of the Syrian Arab Republic armed forces units in the Shair gas field in 40 kilometers north-west of Palmyra (Homs province). All the attacks were repelled, the militants suffered significant losses, ”said the Russian reconciliation center in the UAR.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 9 July 2016 08: 26
    +3
    On the western infe - shot down our helicopter. Well, it’s like a knurled person who would doubt it.
    1. theadenter
      theadenter 9 July 2016 08: 30
      +4
      Is the "human rights monitoring center" putting a hand again? I don't even bother if I see that the news refers to them.
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 9 July 2016 08: 40
      +7
      In continuation of yesterday's cards. Expanding the corridor north of Aleppo, another village east of Damascus was liberated and finally returned three roadblocks east of Palmyra.


      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 9 July 2016 08: 52
        +5
        US Air Force mistakenly struck SDF units in Manbidzh

        On Thursday, local sources and news sources close to the “Islamic State” (an organization banned in the Russian Federation) reported that US Air Force aircraft taking part in the military campaign of the international coalition against this terrorist group struck the positions of the “Syrian Democratic Forces” ( SDF) on the outskirts of Manbij. The attack was made in the north-west of the city, where ISIS terrorists are desperately trying to break through the encirclement ring and thereby unlock Manbidge. As a result of friendly fire, two positions of the SDF units were struck. Such incidents do not occur during the campaign against IS. Almost a month ago, American aircraft mistakenly hit the militants of the armed opposition, defending the city of Marey from the advancing jihadist units of the so-called. "Caliphate", managed even for some time to block the city.

        Well, where are the human rights activists who pour out crocodile tears for the innocent victims? Where is the human rights observatory in London? request
        And they hit the Kurds, when they began to push the IG.
        SDF troops continue to attack the bastion of the IG in the province of Aleppo
        Why did the Americans bombard their own people? And here is the answer ...

        Following the recent successful offensive of the Tiger division of the Syrian Arab Army off the Castello Highway, the route linking the eastern quarters of Aleppo to Idlib province and Turkey was cut, the SDF (Syrian Democratic Forces) launched an unexpected attack in the area of ​​the complex student residences. If this operation will bear fruit and the Kurds manage to occupy this area, they will unite with the “Tigers” on the other side of the key highway, thus closing the militants circle in the eastern part of the city of Aleppo. Opposition fighters and all their jihadists are now in a desperate situation. Their forces are stretched, there are not enough people, plus tensions between various commanders and militant groups accusing each other of treason are growing.

        What would the Syrian forces have not teamed up with the Kurds.

        The forces of the SAA captured a hill above the Castello Highway. Aleppo in 400 meters from the full environment
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 9 July 2016 08: 55
          +3
          Today, the command of the Syrian Arab Army reported that government troops fully captured the stronghold of militants in the Eastern Guta area of ​​Damascus province after two weeks of fighting. Three days ago, Republican Guard units entered the village of Mayda, leading street battles with the pro-Saud group Jaysh al-Islam. The Islamists, trapped in the western part of the village, launched a desperate counterattack yesterday, forcing government troops to abandon several buildings. However, as a result of the lightning-fast operation conducted this morning with active air support, the guardsmen completely captured the village, destroying all the tunnels and trenches used by jihadists. In order to consolidate their success, the troops advanced a few more kilometers to the west, virtually eliminating the possibility for a successful counterattack of the militants.



          The first successes of the Syrian army in the attack in Latakia
          Less than a day after the start of the long-awaited offensive in the province of Lattakia, units of the Desert Hawks Brigade, the Marines of the Syrian Navy and Special Forces achieved major success in the area of ​​the Kinsibba village. CSKA captured the height of Shillaf and Tubal fortress to the south of Kinsibba, thus securing for themselves positions in the dominant heights in relation to the entrenched jihadists. Jihadist forces in this area are represented mainly by the “Islamic Party of Turkestan” (Uygur Islamists from the PRC), associated with Al-Qaeda by terrorists and the so-called “1-th Coastal Division of the Free Syrian Army”. It is noteworthy that so far there are no losses in the ranks of the government forces. It is expected that the clashes will become even more fierce, as the army team will move to the positions of jihadists near the border with Turkey.

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    3. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 9 July 2016 10: 59
      +1
      And what, the Syrians have Mi-24?
  2. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 9 July 2016 08: 31
    +4
    Das from bad - if the crew survives and is captured by the shaitans, then the peasants will not see easy death.
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 9 July 2016 08: 33
    +8
    And the "Western" media have already announced the death of OUR helicopter. How they WANT it.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 9 July 2016 08: 37
      +4
      Western media are guided by AMAK - the Caliphate agency, where it was just announced that the Russian helicopter was shot down. Then (after a few hours) AMAC added that it was not possible to establish the affiliation.
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    3. Monarchist
      Monarchist 9 July 2016 11: 01
      +2
      They sleep and see how our planes and helicopters are shot down!
      1. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 9 July 2016 20: 01
        +1
        Quote: Monarchist
        They sleep and see how our planes and helicopters are shot down!

        On board the Russian Mi-8 helicopter shot down by terrorists on July 35 were a pilot — Colonel Ryafagat Khabibullin — and a pilot-operator Lieutenant Dolgin (name not specified). According to a source of “Lenta.ru”, the bodies of the dead were evacuated from the crash site of the vehicle and delivered to the location of the Russian military unit.
        Our Ministry of Defense, as always, rests on the last
  4. Hyperboreas
    Hyperboreas 9 July 2016 09: 08
    +12
    The helicopter may be Syrian, but the crew is quite possibly Russian. The fact that our comrades are dying in Syria is a fact and the death toll has long gone beyond the official statistics, this is not surprising, there is a war going on. As military people, we swore to defend the homeland and its interests. And if now the interests of the motherland demand protection in Syria, then it means we will be there. It's a shame another thing that they inform about heroes only if it is no longer possible to hide it.
    1. just exp
      just exp 9 July 2016 10: 19
      0
      tell me, what cannot be hidden?
      Tell me, if the General Staff orders to be silent about the crashed Mi-28, and the media under control will be silent.
      will it be possible to hide this loss?
      and if you succeed, then why not hide it?
      1. Professor
        Professor 9 July 2016 13: 26
        +6
        Quote: just EXPL
        tell me, what cannot be hidden?
        Tell me, if the General Staff orders to be silent about the crashed Mi-28, and the media under control will be silent.
        will it be possible to hide this loss?
        and if you succeed, then why not hide it?

        Today it’s impossible to hide. Everything is in sight.
        1. just exp
          just exp 9 July 2016 17: 01
          0
          1 this is not a video how the Mi-28 crashed
          2 videos could remove. hide it.
    2. lelikas
      lelikas 9 July 2016 11: 09
      +1
      Quote: Hyperborea
      The helicopter may be Syrian, but the crew is quite possibly Russian.

      What's the point? Fly old Syrian cars, putting yourself at extra risk when you have your own?
    3. SSR
      SSR 9 July 2016 22: 04
      0
      Quote: Hyperborea
      The helicopter may be Syrian, but the crew is quite possibly Russian. The fact that our comrades are dying in Syria is a fact and the death toll has long gone beyond the official statistics, this is not surprising, there is a war going on. As military people, we swore to defend the homeland and its interests. And if now the interests of the motherland demand protection in Syria, then it means we will be there. It's a shame another thing that they inform about heroes only if it is no longer possible to hide it.

      What and about whom specifically did not inform you? MO voices almost everything, but after checking all the info, they took the fashion ahead of the engine, Syrian people ... Ours easier?
      Damn fans of "fried" news like the Romanovs.
      1. Hyperboreas
        Hyperboreas 9 July 2016 23: 30
        0
        I'm not specifically talking about this helicopter. And specifically about those who have already been buried.
  5. Todessichel
    Todessichel 9 July 2016 09: 17
    -12%
    It’s insulting to us that they are here and how.
    But what do the guys there feel?
    What does it matter to know that in the event of your death, you, figuratively degenerating, will be pushed to the side with your leg, hastily blocking your right to be remembered and not forgotten with a fat sleek general's torso.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 9 July 2016 11: 25
      0
      Quote: Todessichel
      Us, what are here

      ...being...
      Quote: Todessichel
      you, degenerate figuratively, pushed with his leg to the side, hastily shielding your fat, sleek general's torso

      Who gave birth, sick? Or did he mean it putting it
      ... with your torso / HERE A COMMAND SHOULD STAND! / your ...
      Three sentences have three errors. They badly teach Russian in your header, disgusting!
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    avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 9 July 2016 09: 21
    +2
    Quote: Hyperborea
    The fact that our comrades die in Syria is a fact and death toll has long gone beyond official statistics this is not surprising, there is a war going on.
    Where do you get this information ??? Making such statements, it is necessary to lay out the links without fail. There is no link - stupidity, delirium, lies and misinformation ...
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  1. Hyperboreas
    Hyperboreas 9 July 2016 09: 28
    -1
    Take it for granted and take your word for it. Believe me, I know. A couple of weeks ago, I would not have written.
    1. just exp
      just exp 9 July 2016 10: 17
      +3
      Tymchuk said that there are no losses, take a word. believe me, he knows. a couple of years ago he wouldn’t write such a thing.
      on what basis do you believe?
      Are you an authoritative source? Are you a high official at the General Staff?
      Where is the guarantee that you are not talking nonsense that you "secretly" told some kind of freak who only has information from Echo of Moscow?
      or are you going to talk about PMCs with our guys?
    2. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 9 July 2016 12: 21
      +2
      Quote: Hyperborea
      Take it for granted and take your word for it. Believe me, I know. A couple of weeks ago, I would not have written.

      Nah, in a word, I don’t believe anyone. And remember, they published the info about the suicide from our counterpart? This did not prevent anything from hiding, but they did publish it.
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    Muvka
    Muvka 9 July 2016 09: 49
    0
    Quote: avg-mgn
    Quote: Hyperborea
    The fact that our comrades die in Syria is a fact and death toll has long gone beyond official statistics this is not surprising, there is a war going on.
    Where do you get this information ??? Making such statements, it is necessary to lay out the links without fail. There is no link - stupidity, delirium, lies and misinformation ...

    This is god, take his word for it!
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  1. Todessichel
    Todessichel 9 July 2016 09: 59
    -1
    Here, comrades in high Internet ranks still have something to write about.
    For some reason, they often do not require any evidence from them.
    It can be seen from the height of their stellar authority is seen better than mere mortals.
    What is, mister good, proof in and out of the net?
    Staty?
    What can be cited as evidence that it cannot be immediately ridiculed or sandwiched rejected by the nihilistic down of the star opposition?
    Do not grind nonsense - demanding evidence in this case and generally in such a sphere of the informational and disputing field is pointless.
  2. Hyperboreas
    Hyperboreas 9 July 2016 10: 06
    +3
    You apparently did not serve in the army. And if they served, they didn’t understand that in fact this is a big club of acquaintances where everyone knows each other, and if they don’t know each other personally, at least there will always be common acquaintances, here’s your information for consideration.
    1. just exp
      just exp 9 July 2016 10: 22
      +10
      tell me about the thickness of the frontal armor of Almaty. The army is a great dating club and you have probably been told all the secret information.
      and only women serve in the Army. because only women will secretly tell materials in the dating club under the heading.
      1. Monarchist
        Monarchist 9 July 2016 11: 24
        +2
        Comrade commander of rank 1, officers (equally teachers or doctors) can usually always find common acquaintances or people who have heard about them. Officers know what is a secret and what is better to be silent and not ask. By the way, women also have an idea of ​​corporate ethics, and you didn't know that?
        1. just exp
          just exp 9 July 2016 14: 37
          +3
          men also communicate with each other and can always find common acquaintances. but I think that if a man comes up and says that your wife is shorking with three blacks at the same time, and his argument is "well, I'm a man, take my word for it," I think that you will send him away.
          I mean that everything can be. but the argument "take my word for it" is accepted only from people with a GUARANTEED knowledge of the topic.
          and so any State Department employee can put on an ava with a red flag, say that he is a special forces major and that he knows that 783 PAK FAs and 12 Tu-160s were shot down in Syria.
          and can you believe this? but a man with a red flag on the ave and ah the special forces fitzer "will not lie."
      2. Cthulhu
        Cthulhu 9 July 2016 11: 25
        +2
        Quote: Hyperborea
        You apparently did not serve in the army.


        For those who did not serve in the army, much is excusable. And you, it seems, have forgotten why you have a sum of 4 rubles in the pay slip of the monthly content. Remind me? Or guess yourself?
    2. Monarchist
      Monarchist 9 July 2016 11: 12
      -1
      The officer corps is one big village and there is an explanation for this: graduates of military schools communicate with each other, with their colleagues, etc.
    3. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 9 July 2016 12: 29
      +3
      Quote: Hyperborea
      You apparently did not serve in the army. And if they served, they didn’t understand that in fact this is a big club of acquaintances where everyone knows each other, and if they don’t know each other personally, at least there will always be common acquaintances, here’s your information for consideration.

      Yes, we served in this club, served ... And we know how tales are composed and distributed. Therefore, if you were told, people who are familiar with the ensign who drank with a major who was on a business trip in Kubinka - 2, and there someone told him something ... There is no need to carry this further. I heard so much for the service, and fairy tales and nonsense, enough for five volumes. yes
  • APASUS
    APASUS 9 July 2016 10: 05
    0
    I wanted to understand, since the Syrian Air Force possess helicopters and airplanes, then where are their MSS? I think the remnants of the pilots are expensive for Syria itself. Who is preparing them now.
  • Avis24
    Avis24 9 July 2016 11: 03
    +2
    Oh guys! Stop asserting yourself. War is not fair, the result is important. Much, well, you just can’t say it to everyone, you can’t do it. When you sit at the table in the evening, do not forget to raise the third one.
  • Sergei64
    Sergei64 9 July 2016 12: 23
    -3
    Shot down with the help of staff instructors, it seems that they were captured with a convoy, the State Department was silent about it. The CIA did its best. And there will be more.
    This is war and there are secrets, morale above all.
  • Lightpower
    Lightpower 9 July 2016 13: 43
    -1
    Quote: Hyperborea
    The helicopter may be Syrian, but the crew is quite possibly Russian. The fact that our comrades are dying in Syria is a fact and the death toll has long gone beyond the official statistics, this is not surprising, there is a war going on. As military people, we swore to defend the homeland and its interests. And if now the interests of the motherland demand protection in Syria, then it means we will be there. It's a shame another thing that they inform about heroes only if it is no longer possible to hide it.


    The helicopter, unfortunately, can also be Russian. He applied the insignia of the Syrian Air Force, and the helicopter became Syrian. But as for the pilots, everything is more complicated. If a "Syrian" helicopter is shot down and the pilots are taken dead or alive, then they see that the pilots are not Syrians at all, because Russians do not look much like Syrians at all. This will naturally be made public by Western "partners", there is no doubt about that. But, everything can be, of course.

    Quote: just EXPL
    tell me, what cannot be hidden?
    Tell me, if the General Staff orders to be silent about the crashed Mi-28, and the media under control will be silent.
    will it be possible to hide this loss?
    and if you succeed, then why not hide it?


    Losses should be in any case, no one will believe that they are not. Another thing is that real losses can be quite successfully hidden and this is most likely done. And this is not because Putin is bad, but because everyone does it. Moreover, if the loss of helicopters / aircraft is quite difficult to hide, because at our airbase in Syria, a whole crowd of journalists from different countries hang out who will definitely have questions and reasons for news stories if some plane / helicopter does not return. But as for the personnel, here, unfortunately, we will never know the truth.
    1. ML-334
      ML-334 9 July 2016 15: 44
      -1
      We’ll find out the truth, just wipe it, it’s easier.
    2. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 9 July 2016 20: 05
      +1
      Quote: LightPower
      Signed the Syrian Air Force, and the helicopter became Syrian. But as for the pilots, then everything is more complicated.

      Why such difficulties if officially announced about the participation of the aerospace forces in hostilities. As a result, you still have to admit
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    avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 9 July 2016 19: 08
    +2
    Quote: avg-mgn
    Quote: Hyperborea
    The fact that our comrades die in Syria is a fact and death toll has long gone beyond official statistics this is not surprising, there is a war going on.
    Where do you get this information ??? Making such statements, it is necessary to lay out the links without fail. There is no link - stupidity, delirium, lies and misinformation ...

    Not when, before anyone !!! In Syria) !!!!!! Enough to vilify the Russian Armed Forces !!! Go out! Serve, on the front line or in the military guard of two days - ten without water and sleep ....
    Shut your mouth, all I can say ... I'm old, but, RIGHT. !!! Not when, under any power, the trepachki and informers were not held in high esteem !!! Fucked!
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  • Lex.
    Lex. 9 July 2016 19: 40
    +3
    Now they wrote that the Russian mi-35 pilots were shot down
    1. orphan 63
      orphan 63 9 July 2016 20: 30
      +3
      Yes, we have trouble again ...

      The deaths of two Russian pilots of the downed helicopter have just been confirmed live in the news on "360". They even gave their first and last names.

      Eternal memory to our soldiers hi soldier
      1. just exp
        just exp 9 July 2016 21: 16
        0
        On the tape in the news about it is written
        The Ministry of Defense has so far denied this information.
  • gg.na
    gg.na 9 July 2016 20: 03
    +2
    Geeks rejoice early! Soon!!! The latest Katran helicopters will go to Syria to train on action movies am !!! http://mpsh.ru/12747-noveyshie-vertolety-katran-otpravyatsya-v-siriyu-trenirovat
    sya-na-boevikah.html Here you can read all the information! Here they drive the degenerate igilovites here the bathhouse will be rotten! am
  • razved
    razved 9 July 2016 20: 24
    +3
    The Russian Defense Ministry acknowledged the death of two of our pilots. Eternal memory to soldiers !!!!
    1. just exp
      just exp 9 July 2016 21: 17
      0
      Can I link to a normal resource? and the fact that IO recognized the death I read only on little-known resources, and the fact that IO refutes the news I read on the Tape.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 9 July 2016 20: 25
    0
    Sadly, they shot down the Mi-35 ... during a U-turn, after one of the attacks.
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 9 July 2016 20: 47
      -1
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Sadly, they shot down the Mi-35 ... during a U-turn, after one of the attacks.

      What brought down there are details? If MANPADS, the question is why the helicopters involved in the operation are not equipped with countermeasures? And why work on targets from low altitudes, and not from high altitudes ATGMs?
      And the question is, if Russia has a lot of Ka-52s why not use them in full in Syria? In the Ka-52, at least some chance of escape after the kill is in the crew thanks to the bailout system.
  • KnightRider
    KnightRider 9 July 2016 20: 39
    +3
    "Moscow. July 9. INTERFAX.RU - Two Russian military pilot-instructors were killed on July 8 in the Palmyra region after Syrian Mi-25 helicopter under their control, ISIS terrorists (a terrorist group banned in the Russian Federation) was hit by terrorists, the Russian Defense Ministry told Interfax on Saturday.

    "On July 8, Russian military instructor pilots Ryafagat Khabibulin and Yevgeny Dolgin flew over a Syrian Mi-25 helicopter (export version of the Mi-24 helicopter) with ammunition in the province of Homs (Syria)," the Russian military department said.

    The Russian Defense Ministry said the helicopter was shot down after it foiled a terrorist attack.

    During this period, a large detachment of ISIS militants attacked the positions of the Syrian troops and, breaking through the defenses, quickly moved inland, creating a threat of seizing the dominant heights.

    According to the Russian military department, "there were no reserve units of the Syrian troops for the transfer and containment of the terrorist offensive in this direction."

    "The crew received a request from the Syrian command of the group to fire the attacking militants. The commander of the crew, Ryafagat Khabibulin, decided to attack the terrorists. The terrorists' offensive was thwarted by the competent actions of the Russian crew," the Russian Defense Ministry said.

    "Having spent the ammunition, when turning to the opposite course, the helicopter was hit by terrorists from the ground and fell in an area controlled by the Syrian government army. The helicopter crew died," the Russian Defense Ministry said.

    Russian pilots have been nominated for state awards posthumously. "
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 9 July 2016 20: 59
      +4
      That is, at the beginning there was a Syrian helicopter, and then, as the Syrian comrades were outraged by this fact, our MO quickly came up with such a detailed and heroic version of the downing of a turntable. Although before they simply said that the loss in the performance of a combat mission. And so, yes, in the area of ​​the BD they decided to fly around the Syrian turntable, and someone accidentally loaded it with ammunition, and, as luck would have it, the Ishilovites went to the breakthrough and there was nobody to help. In general, everyone was killed, but the last bearded man probably before his death shmalnul from Ptur and caught our helicopter, the enemy is defeated dead heroes are presented for awards. Straight script from a Hollywood movie cheap. Most fools hold people. It's a shame !!!
      1. just exp
        just exp 9 July 2016 21: 24
        0
        and if all the same the media are lying?
        more than once they wrote about a downed Russian plane that turned out to be Syrian.
        and only interfax writes about pilots. MO the downing of our helicopter denies. but says nothing about the pilots, it may be so. but it can also be a duck.
      2. Comrade Artem
        Comrade Artem 9 July 2016 22: 50
        -1
        would you think before opening the mitt?
        1. just exp
          just exp 9 July 2016 23: 32
          0
          thought so what?
          there was already a lot of ducks about the downing of our aircraft, and the sources were pretty solid, RIA Novosti. but it turned out to be a duck anyway. the planes were Syrian, and the old ones.
          here, too, the MO site is silent, and everyone refers to interfax.
          I believe Tass, Tass also said that ours died. but I read it recently. after writing here.
  • Lookark
    Lookark 9 July 2016 20: 43
    0
    The guys did their duty - Men.
    A very important question from what shot down, gun memory or MANPADS? So far, as far as I understand, there is no such information in open sources.
    1. Ducksar
      Ducksar 9 July 2016 21: 29
      +1
      In the past few months, the number of aircraft losses over Syria has become more frequent, apparently our "partners" planted gifts
  • Victor1
    Victor1 9 July 2016 21: 05
    0
    They shot down the Syrian mi25 (export version of mi24) with our pilots.
    The pilots fulfilled their duty, in the last battle they repelled the enemy’s attack, but unfortunately they died. Eternal memory to them.

    It is not clear why ours control the old Syrian equipment, if Syria doesn’t have enough pilots anyway, and ours needs to be fought, so let ours fight on our equipment. Work efficiency and chances of survival, in which case, will be higher. It is necessary to protect the lives of our military.
    Yes, and it's time to tie up with this "truce", and beat the enemy thoroughly despite the squeals of the West, they still only stick sticks in the wheels.
    All these half measures are not brought to good, it was necessary to finish off the enemy and close the border ..
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 9 July 2016 21: 11
    +2
    Today, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported the death of two helicopter pilots, the awards are posthumous, but this doesn’t make anyone any easier ... The tactics of using forces is a weak spot !!!!!!
    1. just exp
      just exp 9 July 2016 21: 21
      0
      let's hope this is a duck. since the Moscow Region writes that the Russian helicopter was definitely not shot down. and about Russian pilots writes interfax and everyone refers to it. and interfax more than once ruined.
      I really hope that they once again lied.
    2. Ducksar
      Ducksar 9 July 2016 21: 24
      0
      ... someone from the local Israeli members of the forum said - "bitten" from there we will not leave, unfortunately.
      Whatever it was, they fulfilled their duty - that means our heroes!
      Regarding the fact that it was Mi-25, one of two, there were few of its pilots left in Syria, the second was our Mi-24, they decided to sweeten the pill.
      And about the fact that the tactics are bad, that’s the lack of ATGMs.
    3. just exp
      just exp 9 July 2016 21: 28
      0
      the news says that our instructors flew over the Mi-25, but did they fly around with weapons?
      1. clidon
        clidon 10 July 2016 00: 21
        -1
        And for some reason, this "25" chassis is not removed ...
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 9 July 2016 21: 46
    +1
    Quote: just EXPL
    let's hope this is a duck. since the Moscow Region writes that the Russian helicopter was definitely not shot down. and about Russian pilots writes interfax and everyone refers to it. and interfax more than once ruined.
    I really hope that they once again lied.

    I’m not ready to approve or refute (I do not have rights) the information of the media, but ,,, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation (to Russia 24) confirmed the loss of the turntable and crew .... ETERNAL MEMORY OF GUYS ... we grieve ...
    1. just exp
      just exp 9 July 2016 23: 33
      0
      did not see this news. so is the pinwheel still ours?
      1. clidon
        clidon 10 July 2016 00: 16
        0
        Officially, the Syrians Mi-25, really Mi-35M.
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    1. clidon
      clidon 9 July 2016 23: 52
      0
      In Afghanistan, they shot down from grenade launchers. ATGM for a helicopter is a "natural" enemy, albeit not the most dangerous. And no helicopter, alas, is insured. Including the Mi-35.
      1. Skubudu
        Skubudu 9 July 2016 23: 57
        +1
        Is there at least one case of the loss of western combat helicopters from ATGMs and RPGs?
        1. clidon
          clidon 10 July 2016 00: 15
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          The American military, in whose interests AirTronic and Chemring Ordnance will manufacture this product in the territory of this country, have known RPG-7 since the Vietnam War. GSKB-47 (now - "Basalt") developed this grenade launcher, primarily to combat tanks and light armored vehicles. But it turned out that it works well for low-flying air targets. The troops of North Vietnam, for example, from 1968 to 1975 shot down nearly 130 American helicopters from it.


          PS Here they also hooked into the tail rotor, while the 35th worked as a NURSEY.
        2. Professor
          Professor 10 July 2016 08: 12
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          Quote: Skubudu
          Is there at least one case of the loss of western combat helicopters from ATGMs and RPGs?

          The year 2006, southern Lebanon, an Israeli transport helicopter Yasur shot down an ATGM after landing.
    2. ans
      ans 10 July 2016 00: 18
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      In addition, surprisingly, they write that the Syrian ground vehicles equipped with "birdhouses" (a means of countering the TOW ATGM) have never been knocked out of this weapon ...
      And then, like a thunderbolt, a whole helicopter made of weapons designed to destroy ground equipment. One may be surprised that our military industry offers means of defense against missiles for helicopters, the "Military Acceptance" program broadcasts to us on the ZVEZDA channel and ... so what !? What's happening!? Our military does not have enough money !? Who is smart here, who will explain what is going on? And don't tell me like "anything happens in war." No, it doesn't happen! If the one who should be responsible for the shortage of our weapons or delays its acquisition for the army is responsible for this ... according to the laws of wartime. What!? do not like!? You will minus, right? We know such patriots ...
      1. clidon
        clidon 10 July 2016 00: 23
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        For a helicopter, ATGM, although natural, is still far from the main enemy. It is far from always possible to apply it, and the main thing is to get there. And in this case, hooked "edge" - in the tail boom.
        1. Skubudu
          Skubudu 10 July 2016 00: 48
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          Quote: clidon
          For a helicopter, ATGM, although natural, is still far from the main enemy. It is far from always possible to apply it, and the main thing is to get there. And in this case, hooked "edge" - in the tail boom.


          ATGM - An anti-tank guided missile is the enemy of tanks and not helicopters.
          MANPADS - Man-portable air defense systems - a natural enemy of helicopters.
          There is enough video from Syria how MI-24/28 fly somewhere to shoot and the barmalei shoot them from below and shoot at them from a different shooter, this indicates a poor situational awareness of the pilots due to the low-quality sighting system, the pilots simply do not see what is happening around on the battlefield, you have to come close to the enemy, such machines can not be sent into battle.
          1. clidon
            clidon 10 July 2016 10: 17
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            ATGM is a guided weapon and, although the helicopter is a "side" goal for it, it is not a miracle to shoot and hit.
            MANPADS are more dangerous, but there is protection against them.
            A helicopter in a guerrilla warfare is an apparatus that acts in direct fire contact with the enemy. The sighting system for assault attacks is not a panacea.
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    Mengad 11 July 2016 08: 24
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    The fact that our comrades die in Syria is a fact and death toll has long gone beyond official statistics this is not surprising, there is a war going on.
    Where do you get this information ??? Making such statements, it is necessary to lay out the links without fail. There is no link - stupidity, delirium, lies and misinformation ...

    strong logic wink no paper you poop? laughing Is it too weak to turn your head on and assume on the basis of state policy? Or are you so naive that those in power will tell you everything like that? laughing
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    Olegovi4 11 July 2016 22: 12
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    colleagues, it is strange to me that on this resource, where the vast majority of service people are, there are so many lamentations about the alleged loss. so ept war! not shooting in the beer chair.