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Media: in the event of a conflict with the Russian Federation, NATO troops will be in a death trap

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On a large-scale exercise, which NATO conducted in Poland, the command did not take into account one circumstance - in real combat conditions, alliance forces would be destroyed in a short time, writes the online edition of The Huffington Post.




“In early June, Anakonda-16 exercises were launched in Poland, during which several hundred American, British and Polish military personnel landed in the central part of the country to work out actions in case of war with Russia. However, in a real conflict, NATO troops would be in a deadly trap, ”the article cites. RIA News.

“The landing zone is located just 180 miles from the military base in Kaliningrad, that is, within the reach of Russian missiles intended to shoot down planes like the clumsy C-17 that have to slow down to drop the landing forces. On the ground, lightly armed soldiers will become targets for Russian UAVs and long-range artillery, ”the author writes.

In addition, the alliance troops at the training provided the land corridor for the American Stryker BTR to Lithuania. In reality, this would not be a corridor, but a “bag of fire”, since “the equipment would be squeezed between the base in Kaliningrad and Belarus, an ally of Russia”.

“NATO troops could not even retreat and would be destroyed on the spot,” the article says.

The publication also notes another difficulty for the troops of the alliance - this is “the language barrier and cultural differences between soldiers from different countries, which impede the coordination of actions”.
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  1. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 8 July 2016 09: 47
    +14
    "On the ground, lightly armed soldiers will become targets for Russian drones and long-range artillery," the author writes.

    It would be nice .. But do we have shock drones?
    1. Dimontius
      Dimontius 8 July 2016 09: 52
      +60
      mind you, they even without a shadow of a doubt, just like that, by chance .... lead a discussion about the attack. And they are even upset that they will be smashed to pieces. The world has gone mad, and the major media magnates are its vehicles in this madness.
      1. Alexey-74
        Alexey-74 8 July 2016 11: 09
        +2
        it feels like life is like comics to them ...
    2. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 8 July 2016 09: 58
      +11
      why drums, they are like real-time targeting and then artillery and a hurricane with a tornado + point y.
    3. DMB_95
      DMB_95 8 July 2016 10: 01
      +8
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      "On the ground, lightly armed soldiers will become targets for Russian drones and long-range artillery," the author writes.

      It would be nice .. But do we have shock drones?

      In my opinion, without drones will be the same result. Will be destroyed.
      1. vadimtt
        vadimtt 8 July 2016 10: 19
        +2
        Drones greatly reduce the consumption of ammunition, so it’s better with them, otherwise suddenly there’s not enough for other partners soldier
        1. TUNISIA
          TUNISIA 8 July 2016 10: 30
          +5
          We have ammunition for three world wars in stock.
          1. vadimtt
            vadimtt 8 July 2016 10: 32
            -1
            Still need to be brought from the warehouse, especially to Kaliningrad hi
            1. Inok10
              Inok10 8 July 2016 10: 40
              +11
              Quote: vadimtt
              Still need to be brought from the warehouse, especially to Kaliningrad

              ... don’t worry so much ... in the Kaliningrad province there is enough ammunition to reach Berlin ... since the time of the Kaliningrad special defensive district and the 11th Guards Army ... well, on the topic ... how then like that ... laughing
              1. Tanya
                Tanya 8 July 2016 10: 57
                +3
                Quote: Inok10
                Quote: vadimtt
                Still need to be brought from the warehouse, especially to Kaliningrad

                ... don’t worry so much ... in the Kaliningrad province there is enough ammunition to reach Berlin ... since the time of the Kaliningrad special defensive district and the 11th Guards Army ... well, on the topic ... how then like that ... laughing


                There only in the museum 11 Guards A. there is enough ammunition for a whole rifle division. good
        2. goblin xnumx
          goblin xnumx 10 July 2016 20: 50
          0
          we say - "drones" - but we think - "SPN" ...
    4. Nick
      Nick 8 July 2016 11: 29
      0
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      "On the ground, lightly armed soldiers will become targets for Russian drones and long-range artillery," the author writes.

      It would be nice .. But do we have shock drones?

      Pass the test.
      In general, Iskander will cope with these issues best of all. It was created, among other things, to destroy the accumulation of manpower and military equipment.
    5. AQUARIUS 65
      AQUARIUS 65 8 July 2016 13: 47
      +2
      Mikhail Krapivin
      It would be nice .. But do we have shock drones?

      It seems that there is
      12.12.2015 ... Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said that the experience of performing combat missions in Syria showed that UAVs are indispensable in the course of hostilities - "If in 2011 there were only 180 systems in the Armed Forces, now we have 1720 modern UAVs ", - he noted.
      Now the drone is undergoing tests, which can perform both reconnaissance and strike functions. Its speed will be up to 800 km / h. The tests are nearing completion.
    6. free
      free 10 July 2016 20: 47
      0
      but long-range artillery is there!
  2. K-50
    K-50 8 July 2016 09: 48
    +3
    in the event of a conflict with Russia, NATO troops will be in a death trap

    Not trapped, but they will be buried in the ground. yes laughing
  3. Vladimir71
    Vladimir71 8 July 2016 09: 49
    +23
    Military analysts and NATO generals are well aware that Russia will simply crush them and leave them no chance of victory. And all those exercises that NATO and their allies conduct are aimed at scaring the Russian bear and making him believe in the military power of the non-existent NATO army. All subsequent years, NATO simply rang with its weapons creating armed conflicts on planet Earth. In reality, NATO did not win more than one military conflict, wherever imaginary soldiers of fortune poked their noses; they broke it. Take Vietnam, the shameful defeat of America. And here on the map is the Nuclear Power Russia, with colossal combat experience in warfare and the best weapons in the world. Fighting with Russia is like braking a freight train running at full speed with your bare hands, complete madness.
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 8 July 2016 14: 17
      +4
      Nuclear Power Russia, with colossal combat experience in warfare and the best weapons in the world
      You forgot to say that not only the best weapons, but also the best soldiers in the world. Whoever disagrees, let him teach history.
    2. Olena
      Olena 10 July 2016 09: 44
      0
      - Yes, of course Russia will "crush" them all ... - How "crushed" Turkey ... with its tourists ... - But who are Russian tourists ..? -This is after all millions of healthy men liable for military service ... -And these millions of relaxed shawarma, alcohol and Turchin's nasty deceitful hospitality ... suddenly found themselves on "enemy territory", and suddenly everyone would be "captured" .., and even with their own wives and children ... - Yes, they will simply carry out unquestioningly everything that the enemies order them ... - even if they dig "trenches" for these enemies, and maybe "bring shells" ...
      - Once upon a time Hitler also "unexpectedly" attacked, and now the same "surprise" may also take place ... at the very height of the "beach season" ... - We have very many enemies. insidious and all of them fiercely hate Russia ... - probably no one doubts this ... - That's it ...
      -Of course ...- all this looks like "crazy delirium" .., but who knows ...- how everything can turn out ... -millions of our women, children, other citizens will be taken hostage by the enemies and ... And then what will Russia do ..? -Only to fulfill the requirements of NATO ... -And the fact that the Turks are capable of any meanness and can do anything ... -so it's easy ... -And the "humane international community" then, of course - all this " will condemn "and the United States will also" condemn "all this and will" disown "everything, they say, we even" did not know "... and they will blame everything on the Turks ... - they say," what can you take from them "...
      - I don’t know that all of them are so "happy" ... - After all, all NATO events "speak" for themselves ... - and it all looks far from being "childish" ...
      1. uncle forest
        uncle forest 10 July 2016 17: 41
        +1
        I somehow doubt that our men, knowing that with them their wives and children, will bring shells and dig trenches, are likely to gather in a handful and organize such a small partisan detachment behind enemy lines. I would have done it myself, because there is an understanding that they will not spare anyone, it makes sense to behave differently.
        1. Olena
          Olena 10 July 2016 18: 29
          -2
          -No ... -Men will quickly be "separated" from women and children .... -and all these "puzans", in shorts and barefoot, will be driven to some wild beach .. where there is no drinking water or shelter from the scorching sun, but only around one Turkish guard with machine guns ... -And Russian women and children will quickly be taken to NATO military facilities ... -military airfields, NATO missile installations, various military depots where ours will have to shoot .. .-where our Russian missiles, our Iskanders, our military aviation, our Calibers can strike ... -Well, where will ours "strike" after that ..? - Yes, ours will not be able to hit even other NATO military European targets (not only those in Turkey) ... - So they "use" our tourists ... who are always "thirsty" for Turkish shawarma ...
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 10 July 2016 18: 38
            +2
            Quote: olena
            Russian women and children will be quickly transported to NATO military facilities ... - military airfields, NATO missile launchers, various military depots, where ours will have to shoot

            “Have you been to a psychiatrist for a long time?”
            - the "foil hat" is too late, here the help of a specialist is needed, and urgently yes
            1. Olena
              Olena 10 July 2016 18: 48
              -1
              -Yes, it is you ... yourself on a Turkish beach, you overheated or ate something Turkish ... -You obviously do not benefit from Turkish cuisine ... -What state are you from at all ..? -Where are there a lot of wild monkeys ..? - Then it's easier ... - eat bananas and don't eat anything Turkish ... - But by the way, eat, drink, have fun ... and learn something funny from Sharikov's "repertoire" ... - Professor Preobrazhensky won't leave you ... and will help ...
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 10 July 2016 18: 50
                +2
                Quote: olena
                -Yes, it is you ... yourself on a Turkish beach, you overheated or ate something Turkish ... -You obviously do not benefit from Turkish cuisine ... -What state are you from at all ..? -Where are there a lot of wild monkeys ..? - Then it's easier ... - eat bananas and don't eat anything Turkish ... - But by the way, eat, drink, have fun ... and learn something funny from Sharikov's "repertoire" ... - Professor Preobrazhensky won't leave you ... and will help ...

                - and I, it seems, was still right ... the "hat" will definitely not help sad
      2. Corsair
        Corsair 11 July 2016 10: 02
        0
        Quote: olena
        -How "crushed" Turkey ... with its tourists ... -Who are Russian tourists ..? -It's millions of healthy men liable for military service ... -And these millions relaxed with shawarma, alcohol and Turchin's nasty deceitful hospitality ... suddenly found themselves on "enemy territory", and suddenly everyone would be "captured" .., and even with their own wives and children ... - Yes, they will simply carry out unquestioningly everything that the enemies order them ... - even if they dig "trenches" for these enemies, and maybe "bring shells" ...

        "When you speak, you seem to be delusional" (c)
        1. For the entire beach-bathing season there are only a couple of million of our tourists going, do not at the same time notice.
        2. Who told you that all our citizens are so soft-bodied and will give up right away - hundreds of thousands of tourists are not only hostages, but also potential enemies in the rear, and any normal man is able to take away weapons from onlookers and make Molotov cocktails.
        3. They also captured in WWII - no one escaped surrender and did not fulfill the requirements.
        1. Olena
          Olena 11 July 2016 14: 03
          0
          -That's for sure ... -bad bullshit ...
          -It's a pity that only you and the same "like you" are now looking into this topic ... -I just didn't have time to come here earlier, 08.07.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX ... -and now only headless people like you come here ... with "Molotov cocktail" ...
          -No, well, it's just an anecdote ... -Overexpressed shawarma drunk tourist with a cry "Tagi-i-il ...", and even with a "Molotov cocktail" ... -Yes, it's just ... "laughing chickens" ... -You yourself, in an hour ... -not a Turk ..?
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 11 July 2016 14: 23
            0
            Quote: olena
            -No, well, it's just an anecdote ... - a drunk tourist who overeats shawarma with the cry "Tagi-i-il ...", and even with a "Molotov cocktail" ... -Yes, it's just ... ... -You yourself, in an hour ... -not a Turk ..?

            - Yes, Turks, Turks ... and I am also a Turk ... patient, don’t you worry only laughing
            - in the madhouse, a strike by staff
            - and the horse-tingent broke through the Internet belay
          2. Cat man null
            Cat man null 11 July 2016 23: 02
            -1
            How many times have people told me cleverly (quietly ... the truth is clever .. I’ll answer, if only) people:

            Baba, lna duoa .. and not because a fool, but because a woman laughing

            And the truth is, after all .. those who wish - dispute your minuses to me .. well, you will be waist-high (s)
  4. HAM
    HAM 8 July 2016 09: 51
    +10
    "... cultural differences between soldiers from different countries ..." ---- In this they are right, the Yankees prefer to fight with other people's soldiers, but simply "throw" when it is scary.
  5. scrap123
    scrap123 8 July 2016 09: 54
    +6
    there will be all general copulation, proceeding from the fact that gay men are legalized in their units, and God forbid they are captured)))
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 8 July 2016 10: 00
    +1
    I think it is worth issuing an order - "Do not take prisoners who do not speak Russian!" Let them learn the language, children of the dog. wassat
  7. cap
    cap 8 July 2016 10: 01
    +1
    The publication also notes another difficulty for the troops of the alliance - this is “the language barrier and cultural differences between soldiers from different countries, which impede the coordination of actions”.

    NATO is the new Babylon, and it will be destroyed. am
  8. viktor.
    viktor. 8 July 2016 10: 03
    +1
    Quote: K-50
    in the event of a conflict with Russia, NATO troops will be in a death trap

    Not trapped, but they will be buried in the ground. yes laughing

    It is better that their dust be blown up by a fiery tornado wassat
  9. knn54
    knn54 8 July 2016 10: 06
    0
    In the local plan, yes. BUT unpredictable Turkey is also a member of NATO. And how will the samurai behave with whom the peace treaty has not been signed so?
    1. Coconut
      Coconut 8 July 2016 10: 10
      +3
      Samurai will not climb because China will immediately get in. Despite the fact that both states conducted periodic military operations since 1931, a full-scale war unfolded in 1937 and ended with the surrender of Japan in 1945. China remembers this
  10. Observer2014
    Observer2014 8 July 2016 10: 07
    +11
    Media: in the event of a conflict with the Russian Federation, NATO troops will be in a death trap
    And who said that Russia is going to use simple weapons against NATO? repeat
    1. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 8 July 2016 10: 19
      +8
      Quote: Observer2014
      And who said that Russia is going to use simple weapons against NATO?


      It seems to me that if something happens, ours will postpone the "big bad-boom" with the use of nuclear weapons until the stop. And if they do, it will be against their overseas colleagues. Why is Russia burnt out by nuclear weapons Europe with all the ensuing (and falling from the sky in the form of precipitation and other and other) consequences. No. Europe will be dealt with with conventional weapons and only if planes with nuclear weapons rise from Germany or the same "axes" fly - then - yes. With all proletarian love.
      1. berezin1987
        berezin1987 8 July 2016 11: 57
        +2
        If the Europeans climb it is necessary to bring them down exclusively with the help of nuclear weapons. Imagine, Poland or Germany climbed into Kaliningrad, and we immediately attacked their advanced units and largest bases with Iskander missiles and aviation. Bottom line: several tens / hundreds of thousands of dead military personnel, several thousand dead civilians, completely broken military infrastructure, radioactive contamination of some territories. But we will save the lives of our people. Imagine a war with virtually no loss on our part. The Americans will not intervene for them, otherwise the number of corpses will go to tens of millions, and they will no longer be able to force someone to rush at us.
        1. Orionvit
          Orionvit 8 July 2016 14: 26
          +1
          Generally speaking, it is unpleasant to read such "forecasts" and variants of warfare. But apart from conventional nuclear weapons, there are tactical nuclear weapons of lesser but sufficient power to cool the ardor of a potential aggressor. And NATO and Turkey, but it will be necessary, and Japan, although I think. that they won't climb. The spirit of the samurai ended, the victors (the Americans) exterminated it, as well as the spirit of Schiller among the Germans. They are not fighters anymore, not fighters.
    2. gg.na
      gg.na 8 July 2016 10: 52
      0
      Quote: Observer2014
      And who said that Russia is going to use simple weapons against NATO?

      I also think the same way unless, if something suddenly, RUSSIA will be tearing Nat with a simple weapon ?! I think that if we start, we will beat gently angry but very much am and not a simple weapon !!! And while who does not hide here, RUSSIA is not to blame bully !!!
  11. raid14
    raid14 8 July 2016 10: 10
    0
    Pathetic attempts to present themselves in the role of a future victim of the "bloodthirsty" Russians, NATO members simply have no desire to die "in the name of democracy" and "they have the wrong system of grenades."
  12. sl22277
    sl22277 8 July 2016 10: 13
    +4
    Thoughts aloud .... Somehow, a few years ago, the RF Armed Forces, the same "authoritative and specialized" publications were considered miserable, ridiculous .... And today we are a threat. And we are acting "recklessly and unprofessionally" and kindling the fire of war ...
  13. Million
    Million 8 July 2016 10: 13
    +1
    Russia is a continuous trap for NATO.
  14. Vladimir71
    Vladimir71 8 July 2016 10: 14
    +17
    “Russians! I now appeal to all Russians; the inhabitants of Ukraine and Belarus in the Balkans are also considered Russians. Look at us and remember - they will do the same to you when you disconnect and give slack. West - a rabid chain dog clings to your throat.
    Brothers, remember the fate of Yugoslavia! Don't let me do the same to you! ” from the last interview with Slobodan Milosevic.
  15. BOB044
    BOB044 8 July 2016 10: 16
    +1

    The publication also notes another difficulty for the troops of the alliance - this is “the language barrier and cultural differences between soldiers from different countries, which impede the coordination of actions”.
    I think that in that and in other armies it is full of Gomeks. So the culture is similar. And at the expense of the language barrier, I think they will have time to pronounce the word KAPUT.
  16. Vadim237
    Vadim237 8 July 2016 10: 17
    +4
    A nuclear boiler will be provided with them - everything will burn.
  17. Gardamir
    Gardamir 8 July 2016 10: 17
    +8
    For some reason, the site is chasing article after article, where in the west they tell how "mentally retarded" they are, how we defeat them with our little finger with one left. And when the next uryakalka begin to defeat the West sitting on the couch it becomes sad. At least the Kaliningrad region can be protected? And who will protect the little boys in Gelenvagens?
    These information stuffing are criminal because they are beneficial to the West. We are all relaxed, because they themselves admit that they do not know how to fight. Under these calls, they allocate more funds for the war with us.
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 8 July 2016 10: 57
      +2
      I don’t think that we are all relaxed ... well, the boys on geliks are a minority in us, such have never fought. Read Vysotsky's "About Seryozha Fomin" and everything will become clear.
    2. gg.na
      gg.na 8 July 2016 11: 03
      +2
      Quote: Gardamir
      We are all relaxed, because they themselves admit that they do not know how to fight.

      Yes, no one thought to catch a relaxon after such articles (personally, I do not feel relaxation), on the contrary, such articles are annoying and even very! And what people write here ..., so each expressed his point of view no more than that! But this does not mean that everyone relaxed! And how can one speak for one person ?? Can you be responsible for all people at the same time !? With regards to me, for example, for example, even for my close relative I will not be able to answer with certainty what is in his head, (thoughts, desires, etc.)
    3. berezin1987
      berezin1987 8 July 2016 12: 01
      -4
      Why worry, militarily they are powerless. The danger is only the fifth column. They should take Kaliningrad only in case of turmoil in Russia. In any other situation, the aggressor will be destroyed by nuclear weapons.
    4. 72jora72
      72jora72 10 July 2016 20: 50
      0
      And who will protect the cuddly boys on gelenvagenami?
      Will protect hundreds of thousands of ordinary men who have passed Afghanistan, Chechnya, Donbass .....
  18. Vladimir71
    Vladimir71 8 July 2016 10: 23
    +13
    It's time to end this headquarters)
    1. Vladimir71
      Vladimir71 8 July 2016 10: 52
      0
      Like that)
  19. viktor.
    viktor. 8 July 2016 10: 23
    +2
    Quote: knn54
    In the local plan, yes. BUT unpredictable Turkey is also a member of NATO. And how will the samurai behave with whom the peace treaty has not been signed so?

    Samurai is a question! they’d rather think, although who knows, but they understand what they’ll go to, in the 21st century not at the beginning of the 20th century, you can stay in history, with the prefix WAS the country of the rising sun request
  20. Jook
    Jook 8 July 2016 10: 29
    +1
    I wonder how many technicians in these exercises they landed without parachutes ...
  21. mitya24
    mitya24 8 July 2016 10: 32
    +2
    In the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, there is incomparably more information about these reptiles than we have - ordinary people, and the creation of new divisions in the western direction is not for nothing. It is unacceptable many times in the history of our armed forces that hats have led to tragedies, it’s time, I think, to learn. And let the tales about how weak they are in the face of the "Russian threat" to their intimidated taxpayers. This should not relax us.
  22. t118an
    t118an 8 July 2016 10: 33
    0
    Soft NATO soldiers "Americans, Germans, etc.", pampered, do not fight without coffee. Lieutenant General Sukhrob Kasymov ..... article from Krasnaya Zvezda
  23. weksha50
    weksha50 8 July 2016 10: 51
    +2
    "" NATO troops could not even retreat and would have been destroyed on the spot "" ...

    Well, here there is no doubt about how it was done ... They demonstrated their "power" parade, forgetting that they had driven themselves into a sack of fire ...

    However, do not forget that the Kaliningrad region itself is also in a very uncomfortable position, practically in the same fire bag ... And the fact that the US-NATO are accustomed to fighting not with those 4 battalions, but - first of all, with their own The Air Force, well, and when it impacts on the territory of Russia, naturally, with missile weapons ...

    Honestly, I always treated with great respect not only the military men serving in this enclave, but also civilians: in fact, they are constantly at the forefront and are the outpost of Russia's defense in the west ...

    Even when the Iskanders deployed there, in KO, I was against it in my kitchen ... After all, they were also practically put under the first blow ...

    So in the Kaliningrad region - "the clouds are gloomy over the border" - and it is necessary for all types of troops to be practically on high alert ...
    1. berezin1987
      berezin1987 8 July 2016 12: 05
      -1
      We will also fight NATO with missile weapons, not slingshots. A full salvo of the SSBN project 667BDRM and half of the geyrops will look like the landscape of Hiroshima. If they are absolute morons, then let them get ready to become a testing ground. I'm not sorry for them at all.
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 8 July 2016 12: 16
        +2
        Quote: berezin1987
        A full salvo of the project 667BDRM SSBN and half of the geyrops will resemble the landscape of Hiroshima

        - and the fact that he arrives in response, we (you) do not think, naturally ...
        - go to the tanks to play .. Napoleon sofa negative
        1. berezin1987
          berezin1987 8 July 2016 12: 46
          -1
          In the event of an attack on us, we don’t give a damn about the victims. Watering the enemy from all guns. I would also use organophosphate BOV on the enemy. Retribution must be total.
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 8 July 2016 13: 02
            0
            Quote: berezin1987
            In the event of an attack on us, we don’t give a damn about the victims. Watering the enemy from all guns. I would also use organophosphate BOV on the enemy. Retribution must be total

            - I don’t understand in any way ... in the madhouse, the orderlies went on strike, or what?
            - my dear ... I’m ready to argue: if you shoot at least from a gun next to you, you’ll get crap .. and in the same place - “total retribution” negative

            Quote: berezin1987
            In the event of an attack on us, spit on the victims

            - sacrifice yourself, show an example
            - and I will spit on you with pleasure wassat
            1. berezin1987
              berezin1987 8 July 2016 13: 27
              +1
              I see you want a repetition of the 41 year with all that it implies. I told you directly that in the event of an attack on US, we should wet it completely. I do not propose to attack first. If the geyropa repeats the mistakes of the past, then they will have to be destroyed at the root. Do you want to become compost - a flag in your hands.
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 8 July 2016 13: 43
                -3
                Quote: berezin1987
                I see you want a repetition of the 41st year with all that it implies

                - no. I just want all kinds of vegetables to stop talking nonsense

                Quote: berezin1987
                I told you directly that in the event of an attack on US it is necessary to wet completely

                - what is needed and what is not necessary - is written in the Military Doctrine of the Russian Federation
                - what are you talking about, there is fierce nonsense

                Go take a sedative. And stop already "poking", I'll bite yes
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            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 8 July 2016 15: 51
              0
              War for a day - the faster you run into the basement of your shack, the higher the likelihood that you will survive, and the victims - if they spit on them all over the world now - then in such conditions it is even more so.
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 8 July 2016 15: 56
                0
                Quote: Vadim237
                War for a day - the faster you run into the basement of your shack, the higher the likelihood that you will survive, and the victims - if they spit on them all over the world now - then in such conditions it is even more so.

                - exactly. And in Moscow, on Kutuzovsky, everything will remain as it was. "Only glass increases." So, Vadim? laughing
                - and you can run into the "shack basement" right now, in advance. Which will further increase the likelihood of survival good
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 8 July 2016 16: 58
                  0
                  With an explosion of 500 kilotons in the city center, to my hut 8600 meters from the center, even the shock wave will reach so weakened that the glasses will not fly out - the pressure is only 10 bar, and in the Garden Ring it will be bad for everyone - it will not completely destroy the house, but it will hurt much, Now it makes no sense to run into the cellars - Don’t worry, you will have a handicap of 10 - 20 minutes - they will warn you.
                  1. Cat man null
                    Cat man null 8 July 2016 17: 39
                    0
                    Quote: Vadim237
                    The explosion of 500 kilotons in the city center

                    - to all of Moscow? And just 500 ct? Vadim, you are an incorrigible optimist laughing

                    Quote: Vadim237
                    you will have a handicap 10 - 20 minutes - you will be warned

                    - class .. just warm the tea and smoke in the end is enough good
                    1. Vadim237
                      Vadim237 8 July 2016 22: 15
                      0
                      And the United States has no more powerful warheads than 475 kilotons - the rest are from 100 to 340 kilotons. They will fly only to the city center and the military facilities of the region are circular - deviation of only 90 to 120 meters.
                    2. Vadim237
                      Vadim237 8 July 2016 22: 34
                      0
                      The first notes to this situation will be the exit from OSV 2, the INF Treaty, and the red line will be the exit from START 3 - then it will be possible to breed a panic. In the meantime, this is not what you can, you can sleep soundly, relax, and think about the future pension, what it will be like - this is relevant for you.
    2. thorns
      thorns 10 July 2016 20: 57
      0
      I live in Baltiysk for the 7th year. To Poland in a straight line - 30km. I don’t feel myself a hostage. Although the ZKP is 200 meters from me, I still won’t have time to run away. As for the outpost, then the prosecutor’s office already understands it. According to some stories, theft simply whips over the edge. Yes, and he came across. But there are drones.
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  24. Pitot
    Pitot 8 July 2016 10: 52
    +1
    It resembles a joke - the hedgehog was crying, but the cactus ate anyway.
    1. Riv
      Riv 8 July 2016 11: 00
      0
      This is still nonsense. But when the winter and the cactus are frozen ...
  25. -СтрР° РЅРЅРёРє-
    +2
    I read some comments and tears of affection are welling up - people, now they are not 41. (How I miss Joseph Vissarionovich!) Just yesterday there was an article: "Will the" golden boys "go to defend the Motherland?" About the "hereditary elite of" new Russia " ... Recommend! Or compare the number of only one traffic police and the Armed Forces of Russia! Or where did our most powerful KGB look when it admitted the marked one to power? Although for admission to work in the "mailbox" for 3 months they checked each one until I do not know which knee! And then the management of such a Country! And so on, to almost infinity. You can minus, only with an explanation of your point of view, because I perceive "-" and "+" only as "agree" or not "agree" hi
    1. Bramb
      Bramb 8 July 2016 11: 35
      +5
      That article was so-so, superficial. Recommending her is bad form.
      Someone will, but someone will not. For example, Shuvalov forced his son to go to serve, the son of our local mayor also served many more.
      Do you think that the golden boys decide something? Well, someone decides, and someone does not. Some of the boys will go, some will not, etc.
      And your look is one-sided. I don’t put a minus because I didn’t even deserve it.
    2. Cat man null
      Cat man null 8 July 2016 12: 22
      0
      Quote: -Wanderer-
      Will the "golden boys" go to defend their homeland?

      - "golden boys" of the total - not even one percent. In any case, they will not make the weather

      Quote: -Wanderer-
      Or compare the strength of the GAI and the Armed Forces of Russia alone

      - why, let me ask you something?

      Quote: -Wanderer-
      where did our most powerful KGB look when it allowed the labeled into power?

      - Gorbachev was a member of the Central Committee. The Central Committee in the Union was "over the top". Including "over the KGB". Untouchables, on the contrary, damn it ...

      Quote: -Wanderer-
      for admission to work in the "mailbox" 3 months checked each

      - two months, with your permission ...

      Quote: -Wanderer-
      You can minus

      - and what to minus, you really did not say anything request
  26. Samoyed
    Samoyed 8 July 2016 11: 17
    0
    In the view of the amateur, the Russian retaliatory strike will be delivered not only against military targets, but also against state institutions. Due to the stationarity of these targets, the accuracy will be high. I will be happy to look at the collective graves of the Euro-racist bastards. It will pour out for Yugoslavia, Serbia, Iraq, Libya, Donbass ...
    1. berezin1987
      berezin1987 8 July 2016 12: 07
      +1
      I fully support. We ought to avenge all the nasty things that they have arranged for us in the last century.
    2. Cat man null
      Cat man null 8 July 2016 14: 45
      0
      Quote: Samoyed
      I will be happy to look at the collective graves of the Euro-racist bastards

      - if you live
      - pray to God that nothing like this happens - this is not a movie or a doctrine, and everyone will be equally bad
  27. masiya
    masiya 8 July 2016 12: 22
    0
    What they achieved and will receive, we did not call them there !!!
  28. aleks26
    aleks26 8 July 2016 12: 29
    +1
    In addition, the alliance troops at the training provided the land corridor for the American Stryker BTR to Lithuania. In reality, this would not be a corridor, but a “bag of fire”, since “the equipment would be squeezed between the base in Kaliningrad and Belarus, an ally of Russia”.
    This is if Belarus fits into the conflict. I fully admit that the "dad" will pretend to be a hose, like - I'm not me and the cow is not mine. EVERYWHERE where Russia was tense, he slowly shit. We remember 2008. And where was the entire CSTO, including Belarus? Correctly! In the same place with the letter "z". As soon as the tension started with the Ukrainians, where did the dad lather? That's right, hugs with Poroshenko. It's the same with Turkey. Almost on day 2, after our plane was shot down, he was already hugging Erdogan. So another question is whether Russia will be allowed to "work" from the territory of Belarus or not.
    1. vasek5533
      vasek5533 8 July 2016 13: 08
      +5
      A typical comment by a "patriot" that he does not see beyond his nose ... but no one supports you anymore and will not support you, name at least one other leader ... China? Nazarbayev? yes there is no one ... everything is known in comparison. In case of NATO, there are plans for what to do, this has been worked out in the exercises, all this will begin to be implemented immediately, no one will wait for the command and watch the NATO columns go to Lithuania.
      1. aleks26
        aleks26 8 July 2016 14: 01
        +2
        Optimist. Blessed is he who believes. There is no talk about China, Nazarbayev and others. 10 years ago, also no one would have believed that Ukrainians would become irreconcilable enemies of Russia. The same will be with Belarus. Russia has no friends. And it never was. While Russia is milking, they will support, but only in words. Does history teach anything?
    2. Cat man null
      Cat man null 8 July 2016 13: 16
      +1
      Quote: aleks26
      Recall the year 2008. And where was the entire CSTO, including Belarus?

      About the CSTO:

      COLLECTIVE SECURITY TREATY of May 15, 1992] Article 4

      If one of the participating states is subjected to aggression (an armed attack that threatens security, stability, territorial integrity and sovereignty), then it will be considered by the member states as aggression (an armed attack threatening security, stability, territorial integrity and sovereignty) against all the states parties to this Treaty.

      In the event of aggression (an armed attack threatening security, stability, territorial integrity and sovereignty) against any of the participating States all other participating states, at the request of that participating state, will immediately provide him with the necessary assistance, including military assistance, and will also support the means at their disposal in order to exercise the right to collective defense in accordance with Article 51 of the UN Charter

      - The Russian Federation was subjected to aggression 08.08.08? Yes, no, I don’t know?
      - and in 2014 - the Russian Federation was subjected to aggression?

      fool
      1. aleks26
        aleks26 8 July 2016 13: 48
        +2
        Well yes. The shooting of the peacekeeping contingent in 2008 is so, a shallow provocation.
        1. weksha50
          weksha50 8 July 2016 19: 58
          0
          Quote: aleks26
          Well, yes. The shooting of the peacekeeping contingent in 2008 it is, a small provocation.


          Specifically - in the territory of South Ossetia ...

          If the USSR-Russia started a war involving the Warsaw Pact bloc, or now the CSTO, in every case when our units that were present were shot in the territory of a country, the whole world would have already burned down in the fire of the third world ...
      2. aleks26
        aleks26 8 July 2016 13: 52
        +1
        2008 in the case of Georgia, 2014 in the case of Ukraine, 2016 in the case of Turkey, a lot, more precisely, did you hear any words of support (moral) from the Old Man?
    3. weksha50
      weksha50 8 July 2016 19: 52
      0
      Quote: aleks26
      Recall the year 2008. And where was the entire CSTO, including Belarus?



      Hmm ... And what, then - specifically - attacked Russia ???
      And in the case of Ukraine or a plane shot down by Turkey-also attacked Russia ???
      That is, there was aggression specifically and specifically against Russia ???

      Read the Charter-Treaty on the CSTO ... And do not blame the members of this bloc-union senselessly ...
  29. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 8 July 2016 13: 17
    +1
    These troops are consumables for the United States to bomb someone, they themselves will bomb them with pleasure.
  30. unsinkable
    unsinkable 8 July 2016 13: 43
    0
    They get into the habit of fighting the Papuans, and when they don’t have copies. Where are your brains, Americans?
  31. unsinkable
    unsinkable 8 July 2016 13: 49
    0
    Quote: aleks26
    So another question is whether Russia will be allowed to "work" from the territory of Belarus or not.

    Quote: vasek5533
    Yes, no one supports you dad

    Colleagues, both of you are right. * Old Man * Zhuchar is still the same and in order to help him, Russia needs to be strong.
  32. vasek5533
    vasek5533 8 July 2016 14: 28
    0
    Quote: aleks26
    Optimist. Blessed is he who believes. There is no talk about China, Nazarbayev and others. 10 years ago, also no one would have believed that Ukrainians would become irreconcilable enemies of Russia. The same will be with Belarus. Russia has no friends. And it never was. While Russia is milking, they will support, but only in words. Does history teach anything?


    The 1st Maidan was in 2004, so just 10 years ago it became clear that Ukraine was lost, and in 2008 it armed Georgia, etc. The situation is completely different in Ukraine and Belarus ... in short, history teaches that history should be taught.
  33. Werterex
    Werterex 8 July 2016 16: 03
    +1
    He suggested that they conduct joint exercises)))) These clowns are against ZVO)))) And there is no need for war .... Everything will be clear laughing
  34. OlegYOla
    OlegYOla 8 July 2016 19: 08
    0
    Vile gathering: type of militant hat-to-for-ki-da-teli negative
  35. gammipapa
    gammipapa 8 July 2016 21: 42
    0
    So the Americans themselves are not going to fight. They need to stupidly push Europe to the slaughter. And they know the story very well and are aware that Europe will lose. They are quite happy with this. England therefore jumps off, everything has been invented for a long time and is played out as if by notes.
  36. Olegater
    Olegater 8 July 2016 23: 52
    +1
    So they need the precedents that they create. This battalion is like a future victim. Well, for example, during the exercises, these from the NATO battalion climb into our territory. Or launch some sort of rocket (purely hypothetically with victims in the border region) and what? Our authorities will wipe off again (remember how the HHLPMAAHPP broke into our territory in 2014 and was stopped only by accident)? Or will they respond adequately? By such symmetric measures as the elimination of AGGRESSORS invading our territory? So then this NATO pack will try to climb on us and then we will express deep concern? Or maybe enough snot to start up?
    THERE IS NO MORE INTERNATIONAL LAW ONLY FORCE AND ITS INTERESTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  37. Art777
    Art777 8 July 2016 23: 59
    +1
    I’m afraid that NATO troops will be advanced to the borders of Russia, much later than nuclear strikes against us.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 July 2016 19: 20
      0
      Nuclear strikes will be delivered simultaneously at them - whoever shoots first will die second.
  38. Dr. Bermental
    Dr. Bermental 10 July 2016 18: 37
    0
    the world forgot about the suffering and pain of war ... they played too much .. sadly .. go rams to the Euros slaughter
  39. nord62
    nord62 10 July 2016 21: 22
    +1
    It is very good that they remembered about Belarus, and even better - they would have read the memoirs of Hitler’s warriors, which are from the rear, i.e. Belarus, asked anywhere - at least to the front, but only to get out of here ... angry Not only will the NATO soldiers simply disappear, there will also be ambushes, and we’ll steal half of the equipment (it’s useful after the war on the farm), and we’ll put the warrior on moonshine hi This is our story - it cannot be otherwise!
  40. red joni
    red joni 11 July 2016 06: 10
    0
    NATO will not be easy in a death trap if Russia fires a missile with a hydrogen bomb with a full solar charge on them, nothing will help them destroy Europe from the face of the earth, kill a billion people with one blow, that’s all ... Russia will end this.