Bandera Avenue appeared in Kiev and Suvorov and Kutuzov streets disappeared

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The deputies of the Kyiv city council, not without pride, report on the next stage of the letter of the law on “de-communization”. Ukrainian TV channel “112. Ukraine" With reference to the Kyiv City Council deputy Yuriy Syrotyuk, reports that several streets and avenues have been renamed in the Ukrainian capital at once. In particular, the Moscow Avenue of Kiev will now bear the name of Stepan Bandera.

Syrotyuk:
Hooray! In Kiev, there is Stepan Bandera Avenue (instead of Moscow)! "For" - 87 of 97 present. Against - no one. Glory to Ukraine!


It is reported that the avenue, named after the legendary Soviet military leader Nikolai Vatutin, will soon be named Shukhevych Avenue.

The renaming affected the streets and lanes, named after the commanders of the Russian army. Without answering the question, what does the renaming of Kutuzov and Suvorov streets have to do with the law on “decommunization”, the Ukrainian deputies renamed them into the streets of General Almazov and Mikhail Omelianovich-Pavlenko, respectively.

A native of Tambov, Alexei Grishin (Almazov is a pseudonym) is one of the representatives of the white movement in Russia. Known for being the military governor of Odessa in the 1918 year. Almazov removed these powers from himself in less than a year, meekly following the directive of the representative of the occupation authorities of the city in the person of French General d'Espere. In 1919, he committed suicide.

Mikhail Omelyanovich-Pavlenko - until 1917, the officer of the Russian Imperial Army. In the fall of 1917, he became the military commissar of the “Central Rada”.

Bandera Avenue appeared in Kiev and Suvorov and Kutuzov streets disappeared


Famous Ukrainizer in the army. Member of the Polish campaign against Russia in 1920 year. The tasks of the Omelyanovich-Pavlenko detachments included attacks on the rear of both the Red and the White. In the 1942 year, at the age of 64, he called himself the hetman of the “Ukrainian free Cossacks” and began to form units of collaborators who entered the service of Nazi Germany from among collaborators. After the defeat of the fascist German units and formations on the territory of the USSR, Omelianovich-Pavlenko fled to Germany. In the 1944 year, when the Red Army continued to smash the Nazis in Europe, he moved to Paris, where he died in the 1952 year.

This is a word about comparing the scale of such individuals as Suvorov, Kutuzov, Vatutin with those military-political bugs, in whose honor Kiev streets and avenues are called today ...
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  1. +13
    7 July 2016 14: 22
    Rename, rename ... morons bl ...
    1. +26
      7 July 2016 14: 24
      A strange country is to abandon its past (very glorious) in favor of some shameful scum.
      1. +10
        7 July 2016 14: 26
        European. Not so well?

        Not some kind of "scoop", but a great peremozhnik. Soon they also promised to adjust the pea jacket with the NATO figure, then we would be envious of everything. And there will be Ukrainians panuvati and it will finally turn into zrada

        1. +6
          7 July 2016 14: 59
          What will the Jewish organizations say and represent Israel on our esteemed site?
          1. +1
            7 July 2016 22: 24
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            What will the Jewish organizations say and represent Israel on our esteemed site?

            And Bandera and Shukhevych and Turchinov-Kogan and Parashenka-Valtsman are all their half brothers, they just don’t want to admit
      2. +3
        7 July 2016 14: 32
        When the veil falls off the eyes and a heavy hangover begins, will they begin to rename it back?
        1. +8
          7 July 2016 14: 47
          Before. We should invite the Polish president to take a walk along Stepan Bandera Avenue. No, well, just wondering, will Andrzej Duda dare appear on the avenue under the media cameras? Sorry, I'm not friends with Polish. I would have mocked at pshekosaytah wink
          1. 0
            7 July 2016 19: 59
            but generally terrible! I can not believe it. that yesterday, our dear Ukrainians will heroize Bandera and Bandera. and also call the streets. My old people just spit. here truly mankurts - lost their memory - are zombied by the State Department propaganda. And in vain Stalin joined Galicia - greedy - it was necessary to somehow leave autonomy - it is clear who lived there

            but what to do. we are all weak so far, and the State Department is strong. and his propaganda brainwashed even half of the Russians and ours, too, unfortunately
            1. +1
              7 July 2016 20: 13
              Quote: Talgat
              And in vain Stalin joined Galicia - greedy - it was necessary to somehow leave autonomy

              Well, you are just like the enemies of the communists, who, starting with those of them who climbed into the CPSU in droves for the sake of profit, and instantly "saw the light", as soon as Gorbachev seized power in the USSR and launched false anti-Soviet propaganda, who blame everything that they created first with the USSR, then with the republics of the USSR and the peoples in them seized by them, blame the Soviet communists for a quarter of a century.
              It's just that with their vaunted "freedom", the enemies of the communists on the territory of the USSR proved that no freedom of speech and action should be categorically given to them, from them only harm and harm to their country and people.
        2. KAV
          +7
          7 July 2016 16: 17
          There will be no hangover. And the veil will not subside. In country 404, history is purposely erased and replaced by a substitute of the desired type. This is a long-term project of the West. They create anti-Russia there. And, sadly, most likely they will create it ..., but hardly already within the existing territorial borders.
          How much I want to strangle those ugly things that are doing such rotten and terrible things with whole countries and peoples ... How do you want them to do the same! To feel in your own skin all the charms of your own actions!
        3. +2
          7 July 2016 16: 27
          Quote: hirurg
          a severe hangover will begin, will begin to rename back

          What about the sausage? will it be renamed too?
          in the Ivano-Frankivsk region, the sausage shop renamed one of its brands. Now Moscow sausage will also be called Bandera.
          As far as I understand, that sausage falls short of the right to be called "Moscow". From the corpse of Bandera, what is needed is obtained. Both taste and smell are appropriate.
        4. 0
          7 July 2016 17: 25
          Quote: hirurg
          When the veil falls from my eyes and a heavy hangover begins,

          Such people no longer have a hangover, but a withdrawal, like from drugs. It would not have happened that from this buzz the road is one way ...
      3. +7
        7 July 2016 14: 34
        Quote: aleks_29296
        A strange country is to abandon its past (very glorious)

        Well, I don’t remember such a country - Ukraine. She didn’t physically exist!
        And it's not even worth talking about the "very glorious" past.
        The Russian Empire and the USSR had a glorious past, in which were MALOROSSIA and the Ukrainian SSR.
      4. +20
        7 July 2016 14: 36
        And why Ukraine is still not renamed? The same name from the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union. For example - to Bandera or Obama. Or right away - to Idiocy.
        1. +16
          7 July 2016 14: 46
          Bandera Avenue appeared in Kiev and Suvorov and Kutuzov streets disappeared

          It remains to introduce a new emblem of Ukraine:
        2. +9
          7 July 2016 15: 29
          Ukraine, Polish and Austro-Hungarian name. There has always been Little Russia and Galicia. Accordingly, there were Little Russians and Rusyns. And Ukraine with the Ukrainians is a purely Russophobic project of Western "partners", which fired 150 years later. We are all observing the results. Regarding the renaming and de-comunization, I said for a long time, let them blow up the Dnieper hydroelectric power station, demolish the Khrushchev buildings, factories, and the rest, because EVERYTHING that is in Ukraine is the legacy of the Soviet Union. They renamed them into the names of some freaks, programmed karma for themselves, and they'll end up like these "figures". As you name the yacht (country), so it will float.
        3. 0
          7 July 2016 16: 11
          Quote: Reserve officer
          And why Ukraine is still not renamed?

          Hands did not reach. At the beginning of the year, they introduced into the parliament a bill on renaming Ukraine to Russia, and the Russian Federation to Muscovy. So we are waiting for the continuation of the banquet.
          But that is not all.
          Following in the country in honor of the ideologist of Ukrainian nationalism was renamed "Moscow" sausage. Now it will also be called Bandera, said the head of the manufacturing company Petr Knishuk.
      5. +13
        7 July 2016 14: 42
        But what about Sukashvili Avenue, Nuland Boulevard, Biden Square, Ukropskaya Street, Savchenko’s impasse? laughing
      6. +5
        7 July 2016 15: 22
        I would like to ask some members of the forum, who all kicked at the fact that #Naukrainenetfazizma, #THIS SIMPLY. Well, so that there is no fascism and Russophobia? wassat

        P.S. The Mannerheim board in St. Petersburg was bombarded with paint the day after its installation (this is so, those who hasten to say that in our country the memory of the Nazi collaborators is also perpetuated) it will be interesting to see whether the names of Bandera, Shukhevych, etc. d. in Kiev? And after how much? It seems a rhetorical question because everyone knows the answer to it ...

        P.P.S. Special greetings to the Poles! I advise "Nebrotyam" to move the Polish Embassy to Bandera Avenue. wassat
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      8. +1
        7 July 2016 20: 44
        Quote: aleks_29296
        A strange country is to abandon its past (very glorious) in favor of some shameful scum.

        This is not a country, and it is not a people.

        Personally, I no longer perceive Ukrainians. like brothers. and as a state.
        What happened there resembles a primitive gang like a jackal.
        Pyzhatsya, bark, scare the smelly nasty look ...
        And all hopes are on the "lion" ...

        I hope these themselves will die out ... otherwise they will have to be "brought up" ...

        A normal person cannot tolerate the betrayal of the ancestral covenants.
        A normal person cannot destroy his own camp, his own factories, his own history ...
        fellow tribesmen.

        They are abnormal there, or sick, or the most terrible weapon in the world has been used to erase memory and shorten the logical apparatus of the brain ...

        Let Ukrainians be offended, I don’t care ...

        For me, normal Ukrainians are either in the troops of New Russia, or in the dungeons of the SBU, or in Russia with the whole family, even if it is poor, but human.
    2. +1
      7 July 2016 14: 27
      Oh well, and the Ukrainians found themselves heroes, it's just a jerk.
      1. 0
        7 July 2016 18: 31
        Oh well, and the Ukrainians found themselves heroes, it's just a jerk. ,,
        so others, real, they just forgot.
    3. +6
      7 July 2016 14: 30
      Quote: istealth
      Rename, rename ... morons bl ...

      The mania of decommunization in Ukraine did not stop there. So, in the Ivano-Frankivsk region, the sausage shop renamed one of its brands. Or rather, the Moscow sausage was renamed to Bandera.
      1. jjj
        0
        7 July 2016 15: 14
        If only sweets "Lvovskiye" continue to be produced
    4. +8
      7 July 2016 14: 30
      ... what does the renaming of Kutuzov and Suvorov streets have to do with the “decommunization” law ...

      And I am personally in favor am
      For the fact that the Omidan Svidomo, in their crap Kuyeva - did not have the streets of heroes to whom these Bandera-Shukhevych fosterlings have nothing to do am
      1. +1
        7 July 2016 15: 43
        Quote: Andrey K
        For the fact that the Omidan Svidomo, in their crap Kuyeva - did not have the streets of heroes to whom these Bandera-Shukhevych fosterlings have nothing to do


        So you don’t want them to have anything to do with Kiev themselves. Kiev is the mother of the cities of RUSSIAN and not Banderlog.
    5. +3
      7 July 2016 15: 10
      Lord, this is how they desecrate the ancient Russian city of Kiev, the bastards who have come to it.
  2. +3
    7 July 2016 14: 22
    God, what a shame ...
  3. +14
    7 July 2016 14: 22
    https://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/228/gjya472.png

    Yes, even if they rename the Nezalezhnisti Maidan to Obama's or Killer Clinton's, they will not add brains and money to them.
    And they will be replaced by people who, although returning normal life to the country and living in peace with Russia, will wash away all this husk of Nazi-Bandera names, just as summer rain washes away all the dirt from the earth.
    1. 0
      7 July 2016 20: 38
      Visa-free regime????????????
  4. +3
    7 July 2016 14: 23
    The land of not frightened degenerate idiots, what else can you say .... ugh, an abomination, and nothing more!
    1. 0
      8 July 2016 10: 43
      You consider Ukraine as such, and as such, "The Land of Not Frightened Degenerate Idiots," the whole world thinks. In the mirror, in the mirror, look more often.
  5. +7
    7 July 2016 14: 25
    Moscow Avenue in Kiev will now be named after Stepan Bandera

    the avenue, named after the legendary Soviet military commander Nikolai Fedorovich Vatutin, will soon receive the name of Shukhevych Avenue

    Nothing to add...
  6. +2
    7 July 2016 14: 27
    Let them prepare signs "Shoigu Avenue", "Zakharchenko Street", etc. It will come in handy.
  7. +15
    7 July 2016 14: 27
    This is normal .... when the ass is assigned to the head. It should be so.
  8. +6
    7 July 2016 14: 33
    This only speaks of what kind of dandruff seized power in the "mother of Russian cities." The demonic sabbath continues. When they finally “ramaidan” the country and dump it “over the hill” to the owners, they will have to clear the territory of this evil spirits left by them, pinching their noses ...
    1. +2
      7 July 2016 15: 04
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      "mothers of Russian cities"


      I do not agree only with this - Kiev is not the mother of Russian cities - In Russia there were cities older and more powerful ....
  9. +6
    7 July 2016 14: 36
    What a small and disgusting pantheon of Ukrainian "heroes".
    1. +1
      7 July 2016 14: 47
      Just as you call a ship, it will sail, in this case it will sail.
  10. +1
    7 July 2016 14: 40
    Well renamed, even a joyful hysteria about this and that life will improve ???
    1. 0
      7 July 2016 14: 48
      Quote: Donch4ak
      Well renamed, even a joyful hysteria about this and that life will improve ???

      Their Americans are preparing not for life, but for death in a war with the Russians, who will always be to blame for the fact that they live so poorly.
      1. 0
        8 July 2016 09: 11
        Yes, they are starting to slowly "see", heroes of their own begin to bludgeon .... yes, and hit the run, the majority moved to Russia - mother moved ... including the former ATO officers
  11. +7
    7 July 2016 14: 43
    Please note that they are renaming as part of the "decommunization" -Moskovsky prospect, st. Kutuzov, Suvorov street.
    It would seem what relation do Kutuzov and Suvorov have to communism?
    The point is that "decommunization" is only the upper layer. The basis of their worldview is hatred of Russia, as such, regardless of whether it is Soviet or not.
    1. +3
      7 July 2016 15: 21
      Quote: Odyssey
      It would seem what relation do Kutuzov and Suvorov have to communism?
      Well, these are the most famous first communists of the Russian Empire. repeatedly executed orders to destroy the democrats in Poland, Turkey, France and Germany. am
  12. +2
    7 July 2016 14: 49
    Well, in the meantime, trains from Banderreich daily bring workers to Kiev Station on Europe Square in the hero city of Moscow.
  13. 0
    7 July 2016 14: 53
    But someday this mess will end. And what will they say then? When the drunken stupor passes, and zae *** to jump.
  14. +5
    7 July 2016 14: 57
    For the sake of completeness, they need to rehabilitate Chikatilo, who was repressed by Muscovites, to appoint him the hero of Ukraine and name him something. Laughter, laughter but characters of the same order as it seems to me.
  15. +1
    7 July 2016 15: 00
    that's disgusting!
  16. +1
    7 July 2016 15: 01
    Soon there will be only two streets all over the ukroin - on the right side is Bandera Street, and on the left - Shukhevych Street. In honor of the loopers and other kheroev will be called dead ends. And in honor of dogs and cats alleys.
  17. +6
    7 July 2016 15: 04
    This is not decommunization, but banal fascization ....
  18. +3
    7 July 2016 15: 05
    Let's also:
    B. Obama Avenue
    H. Clinton Avenue
    K. Rise Lane
    and at the end of A. Hitler’s impasse
    And then happiness will come to you, and may you come cars of pennies, etc. and so on

    fool fool fool
  19. +7
    7 July 2016 15: 05
    Nothing. When "polite" people from Novorossia come to them,
  20. Tai
    +7
    7 July 2016 15: 06
    Which country, such and heroes ...
  21. +1
    7 July 2016 15: 15
    Does this surprise anyone else?
  22. +1
    7 July 2016 15: 21
    Nothing but Matyukov ...
  23. +1
    7 July 2016 15: 23
    forum users, it’s interesting both on Russian TV channels now called the city of Krasnodon?
    Krasnodon or Ukrainian-Sorokino?
    1. UVB
      +1
      7 July 2016 20: 09
      Quote: Gamer
      forum users, it’s interesting both on Russian TV channels now called the city of Krasnodon?
      Krasnodon or Ukrainian-Sorokino?

      I don’t know how I didn’t hear it on Russian channels, but Yandex quickly made changes on its maps. Now instead of Krasnodon, Stakhanov, Dnepropetrovsk-Sorokino, Kadievka, Dnipro, etc., in full accordance with the ruins. A SHAME! By the way, while Google is in no hurry to rename.
      1. +1
        7 July 2016 20: 51
        Quote: UVB
        Yandex on its cards promptly made changes. Now instead of Krasnodon, Stakhanov, Dnepropetrovsk-Sorokino, Kadievka, Dnipro, etc., in full accordance with the ruins. A SHAME! By the way, while Google is in no hurry to rename.

        The idiocy continues.
        Ours are good too.
        Also, after all, Gorky, Kuibyshev, Sverdlovsk ... renamed ...
        And with St. Petersburg, bad luck came out.
        The hero city remained Leningrad.

        So I say: I'm from the hero city of Leningrad.

        And let our stamped enemies rage!
    2. 0
      8 July 2016 21: 45
      He was Krasnodon, and he will remain Krasnodon .... But on Russian TV channels they don’t say anything about him (Krasnodon)
  24. +1
    7 July 2016 15: 28
    In 1991. We finished off our USSR, and the "Warsaw Pact" even earlier ...
  25. +3
    7 July 2016 15: 29
    A nightmare ..... Where is the TRUTH? Who and how did ..al such a country? Where is democratic Europe with its values ​​eyes and ears? The world has gone mad, and sobering will come again through great blood. Sorry for the brothers, but it's their choice. SAVE THE LORD RUSSIA !!!
  26. +4
    7 July 2016 15: 36
    Bandera Avenue appeared in Kiev and Suvorov and Kutuzov streets disappeared


    And that Suvorov and Kutuzov also kept a party card at the heart? Nobody in the know? laughing
  27. +3
    7 July 2016 15: 48
    Quote: nrex
    A nightmare ..... Where is the TRUTH? Who and how did ..al such a country? Where is democratic Europe with its values ​​eyes and ears? The world has gone mad, and sobering will come again through great blood. Sorry for the brothers, but it's their choice. SAVE THE LORD RUSSIA !!!

    What kind of brothers are you talking about? You look at what their children say on camera and how they behave at rallies. And when was a crest a brother? Even with a great union, half of all the jokes were about Ukrainians. THERE ARE NOT BROTHERS TO US !!!!
  28. +1
    7 July 2016 15: 59
    In every bad thing, there is something good. This Bendery decommunization will bring the decay of dill closer!
  29. +1
    7 July 2016 16: 04
    Quote: Gamer
    forum users, it’s interesting both on Russian TV channels now called the city of Krasnodon?
    Krasnodon or Ukrainian-Sorokino?


    I don’t know. I’m watching a little. if only a movie, but when they remembered the Young Guard, then they talked about Krasnodon.
    About Dnepropetrovsk. then acquaintances from there always called him Dnepr in a conversation, this is before the Maidan. it's like St. Petersburg, and Peter called him.

    I don’t want to offend you, but looking at your country, sometimes communicating over the network with patriots, I see some kind of surrealism, I begin to doubt my own adequacy.

    But it’s interesting how conscious Ukrainians explain the presence of Ishmael who took the Russian Suvorov to Ukraine. and where was Ukraine at that time. and whether they consider. that within the framework of getting rid of the occupying imperial past, return it and other cities. but somehow it doesn’t work out well. some kind of decommunization is not correct, half-hearted.

    And what among your friends they say about events and today's life
    1. +3
      7 July 2016 16: 39
      Konstantin, I'll start with your last question
      And what among your friends they say about events and today's life


      There are different acquaintances - those who know everything themselves, from the zombie box. There is a full set of cliches - Russia has attacked, "parquet generals", foreign countries will help us, Putin will soon die and everything will be over. There is smarter, knowing that I have relatives in Donbass, they first probe (my) political sympathies, then the conversation becomes frank. Mobilization, the summons came - went to serve, if he doesn't want to, he doesn't go until I take it by the gills. Two classmates came in 3-4 pieces each, answered like this - is there a martial law? no - go nah.r, come with the prosecutor.
      General sentiment - all do not care that the authorities say it will.
      I wish you success in trolling the ancient elites! )))

      P.S. I love Donetsk tweeters https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmjDl3rWcAAoNFx.jpg

      Donetsk news
  30. +2
    7 July 2016 16: 08
    On these vile streets they will go their pederast parade right there, in a terrible fetid place.
  31. +3
    7 July 2016 16: 17
    The new government needs to be engaged in the economy and not to distract people from any cheap garbage. And for such questions it is necessary to ask the opinion of people, especially from those who live on these streets.
    1. +3
      7 July 2016 16: 42
      Yes, the Maidan fascists will ask someone else's opinion, how.
    2. 0
      7 July 2016 17: 43
      Quote: Antimif
      The new government needs to be engaged in the economy and not to distract people from any cheap garbage. And for such questions it is necessary to ask the opinion of people, especially from those who live on these streets.

      The "new government" is far from new. For over two years now.
      And she does her own thing. The one for which it was created - a dribble of undistributed property. Well, a redistribution, of course.

      Nobody was going to ask the people. It is enough to collect 10.000 people from all over Zhovten-Blakitnaya and "ala-ulyu - chase the geese!"
      And if in "Nezalezhnaya Nenka" there is no people who would arrange a third Maidan for the "new authorities", then it is obvious that the first two were bearers of anyone's will, but not the local population.
      hi
    3. +1
      7 July 2016 18: 19
      To deal with the economy. You have to want to do something and think. And here they give money for yapping to Russia. Why work then. When we remove our ambassador. After all - this is just a shame for us. So mock the history of Russia.
  32. 0
    7 July 2016 16: 23
    And in general, it is useless to ask the enemies of the Communists why they are doing this, they have one dull, irrational anger and hatred, a desire to destroy and destroy.
  33. +2
    7 July 2016 17: 25
    Vatutin, Suvorov, Kutuzov, "Moskva" know these names and words all over the world, and the geeks Shukhevych, Bandera, only in Ukraine and the undead in Europe.
  34. +3
    7 July 2016 17: 59
    It hasn't started yet
  35. -9
    7 July 2016 18: 11
    Fascists in Russia?
    Nah ... I haven’t heard or seen ....
    1. 0
      7 July 2016 21: 05
      I had a chance (about 5 years ago) to read the forum "May 9", it was then run by a certain Sergius Russian. I found a topic full of joy - a skinhead escaped from custody, who killed a musician of Jewish nationality in the doorway. Jarred, of course. I hope that such scum in the Russian Federation sits below the baseboard.
  36. +6
    7 July 2016 18: 23
    There are scum in Russia. But this is not state policy or the opinion of the people. It is impossible because of several freaks - to put a sign. You wrote nonsense or stupidity. And rename the streets and demolish the monuments, idiocy. Well then, do not ruin Everything that the USSR built. Let's start with the Dnieper.
  37. -7
    7 July 2016 18: 26
    So from the beginning, remove the log from your eye, then scold the neighbor. Or is it your son of a bitch ??
    And about the renaming, I already said my opinion, people should decide but not power.
    Why immediately to Ukrainians. Fascism swings, from the beginning, destroy Russian fascism.
    All that I wrote is my personal opinion and I’m not a decoy who receives money for this. For you, maybe stupid, but for another person it’s the peak of philosophical wisdom.
    1. +3
      7 July 2016 20: 23
      That's what I said about it (about your writings and other Ukrainians. On sites) when I wrote that Ukraine is inadequate in Ukraine. You have shown a few fools who are marginalized and who do not pursue politics at the state level, and who can very easily get an article about ethnic hatred.
      So you wrote nonsense, you need to add more about the flag of the Russian Federation, which Vlasov had, and about the traitors of Vlasov. In Russia, the streets are not called by the names of the fascist sixes. The table in St. Petersburg caused outrage (mannerheim).
      In Russia, having a politician’s grandfather Vlasov has a career end.

      Here, there was a conversation about Krasnodon, I ask you a simple question: Why did the Young Guards die: for Ukraine, for the USSR? If for the Union then they must be forgotten, since the USSR occupied Ukraine, if for Ukraine it turns out that they and Bandera, OUN UPA fought for one thing? You see what non-docking it turns out.

      In Russia, everything is just Russia, the legal successor of the USSR, and therefore we do not spit on Brezhnev Stalin, Mikoyan, Trotsky, condemn, give estimates, yes.
      I am very glad that Ilyich is standing in my city, although I do not treat him very well.
  38. +2
    7 July 2016 19: 00
    Yes, do not care, already this circus is tired ... in the end they have sovereignty there ....
    For me, the following news deserves more: "The Ukrainians who fought for the DPR and LPR are being expelled from Russia."
    http://www.mk.ru/social/2016/07/06/ukraincev-voevavshikh-za-dnr-i-lnr-vydvoryayu
    t-iz-rossii.html
  39. +2
    7 July 2016 20: 15
    Quote: Antimif

    And about the renaming, I already said my opinion, people should decide but not power.
    Why immediately to Ukrainians. Fascism swings, from the beginning, destroy Russian fascism.

    You get a little confused, here are people separately and separately power, it does not happen, power somehow expresses the will of people at least some of their part, no matter how strange it may seem there is a hierarchy in any country there are centrifugal movements that unite and centripetal destroying the country life goes on in such a tangle, the life of the state as well. Regarding our fascists, you are absolutely right, but we are fighting with them, we do not name the streets by the name of Vlasov and Krasnov, recently a memorial plaque was hung here to Mannerheim, so they will be filming, so the trend is positive . OUN UPA were allies of the Nazis and "fought" only with civilians, with Ukrainians and name streets, not even name, but rename the top of cynicism. That's how it is seen from here.
  40. +1
    7 July 2016 20: 34
    Quote: Kostya Andreev
    In Russia, everything is just Russia, the legal successor of the USSR, and therefore we do not spit on Brezhnev Stalin, Mikoyan, Trotsky, condemn, give estimates, yes.
    I am very glad that Ilyich is standing in my city, although I do not treat him very well.

    Those who captured Russia in 1991, just like those who captured Ukraine in 1991, slander the Soviet Communists in order to justify their capture of the RSFSR and the Ukrainian SSR, and praise the enemies of the USSR, the Soviet people, from the end of the 80s they creep in front of Poles-Russophobes.
    And why are you "not very good" about Lenin? Are you in favor of the Soviet people having the fate of the people under the Romanovs, or is it better for you a post-Soviet thieves through and through worthless power?
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      7 July 2016 21: 02
      Quote: tatra
      And why are you "not very good" about Lenin? Are you in favor of the Soviet people having the fate of the people under the Romanovs, or is it better for you a post-Soviet thieves through and through worthless power?


      Dear, this is a provocative statement of the question, especially since I did not mention the Romanovs and other figures. However, I will answer, one of the causes of problems in modern life in Russia is that Grandfather Lenin made Ukraine by giving away Russian lands (not only Ukraine but also other countries of the post-Soviet space).
      I believe that it is not necessary to destroy much as Lenin did. and here is how Stalin did, turning the agrarian country into an advanced, industrial power, restoring the borders, this must be managed.
      (an answer like if Lenin lived a little longer would not be accepted, because history does not have a subjunctive mood)
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        7 July 2016 21: 33
        No, this is a normal statement of the question. For Lenin, almost 100 years after the October Revolution, those who are for socialism as a social system, the development of the country, a social state for the people.
        But those who are against Lenin are irrational people, they are not for the Romanovs, not for the Provisional Government, after 1991, "and now they are better than in the USSR," but they are categorically unable, as we, supporters of the Communists, to defend their power, their social system, their economy, each other.
        And do not slander Lenin. After the October Revolution, the internal enemies of the Bolsheviks, together with the interventionists, unleashed a Civil War with the aim of overthrowing the power of the Bolsheviks and dismembering the centuries-old Russia, and only Lenin and the Bolsheviks did not allow them to completely ruin our country, as they did, using lies, hypocrisy, having captured the USSR in 1985-1991.
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          7 July 2016 22: 26
          we are somewhat off topic. I will not enter into a discussion with you. and find out who is right and who is not. I have given indisputable facts. about Ukraine and the role of Lenin in the emergence of it and other post-Soviet states.
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    7 July 2016 20: 50
    Raguli are stupid ...
  42. 0
    7 July 2016 23: 11
    As there - "The valor of the dwarf to spit as high as possible." "Libraries" of true history do not burn.
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    8 July 2016 00: 55
    Bandera Avenue appeared in Kiev and Suvorov and Kutuzov streets disappeared
    I think that Suvorov and Kutuzov would not have taken offense at all having climbed from the streets of Kiev to find out what is happening in Kiev and who rules there ...