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NATO minus one, or Berlin is between Lisbon and Vladivostok ...

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On the eve of the German parliamentarians came together in another battle over relations with Russia. The stumbling block this time was Germany’s membership in the North Atlantic military bloc and the nebula of its purpose there. Representatives of the Left Party of the Bundestag came up with a truly loud initiative to abandon NATO anti-Russian phobias imposed by the US administration and money bags from Wall Street and move on to building relations within a single Eurasian security system. Systems "from Lisbon to Vladivostok." It is worth recalling that exactly the same idea was voiced at the time by Vladimir Putin, proposing to abandon confrontation for the benefit of partnership relations both in the security sphere and in the economic sphere.

The leader of the German movement “Left” (or “Alternative for Germany”), Sarah Wagenknecht, gave an extensive interview to Russia Today TV channel, during which she expressed her thoughts about the fact that NATO had long ago lost its security guidelines and today exists only thanks to the anti-Russian force being forcibly imposed ideology. At the same time, Sarah Wagenknecht criticized the participation of German soldiers in NATO military exercises near the borders of Russia.

RT cites a statement by the leader of the German opposition movement, which over the past few years has gained a lot of popularity in Germany:

I believe that to conduct such maneuvers (near the borders of the Russian Federation - author's note) with the participation of Germany after 75 years after the war of extermination, which Germany began against the then USSR, is oblivion stories. Therefore, in our opinion, there is absolutely no excuse for these maneuvers, we consider these maneuvers to be an anachronism.

I will say this: US interests are fairly transparent. After all, their hegemony, their domination in Europe are based precisely on this frightening picture that we need to be protected from Russia - this finds the widest support. Why it now finds support in Eastern Europe and in certain parties to such an extent is not quite clear to me, because Eastern Europe itself will be among the victims if it comes to military escalation.


At the end of the interview, the leader of the Left Party added:
I believe that, judging by the way the alliance is now behaving, it is in fact the biggest pest. A few years ago, Helmut Schmidt clearly said: “Today, a great threat comes from the United States, rather than from Russia.” Unfortunately, this is true. When I now observe the course of the presidential elections in the United States (...) when the White House will be ruled by either a half-madman or a puppet of the arms lobby, this threat will not diminish compared with today. And that is why we need more independent European politics. We do not need a performer of the will of Washington.


Against this background, the next, forgive, bleating of German Chancellor Angela Merkel that NATO’s policy towards Russia is “defensive in nature” was ridiculed even in Germany. According to Merkel, “for example, Poland is extremely concerned about Russia's actions.” And therefore, - as Merkel stated, - Germany, as part of NATO, should “act in the format of deterrence and dialogue, pursuing a purely defensive policy”. These statements by the German Chancellor regarding the Russian Federation published a magazine Focus.

In the German segment of social networks, a considerable number of users were surprised by the fact that Germany was suddenly worried about Poland’s concerns given the fact that recently Berlin itself had repeatedly expressed concerns that Warsaw was taking steps that were contrary to EU standards (for example, attempts to control MASS MEDIA). Representatives of the German opposition at the same time stated that the same Poland would have no concerns regarding Russian policy if: a) independent politicians, not American puppets, worked in the leadership of Poland, as well as in the leadership of Germany, b) instead of the anachronism, which is NATO, a unified security system on the European continent began to be built, including the Russian Federation as well.

The idea of ​​the German opposition about contacts with the Russian Federation in terms of creating a unified security system was eventually formulated by representatives of the Bundestag Committee Alexander Noah. His words leads the news agency Sputnik:
The resolution’s idea is as follows: we don’t need NATO, instead we need a collective security system from Lisbon to Vladivostok. This week we will formalize it.


Alexander Noi noted that the initiative is being discussed before the NATO summit in Warsaw, and against the background of the summit itself, the German Left organized large-scale protests against Germany’s membership in the North Atlantic Alliance.

NATO minus one, or Berlin is between Lisbon and Vladivostok ...


It would be possible to stop there, stating that the German “Left” will not, by definition, allow an initiative for Germany’s withdrawal from NATO, and therefore the resolution will remain in paper form. However, after the famous case of Brexit (the exit of Britain from the European Union on the basis of a referendum), it can be said with confidence that the saying “never say“ never ”” works in the political sense as well. Moreover, taking into account the fact that the German “leftists”, along with representatives of the party Marine Le Pen in France and the League of the North of Italy in Europe, are suspected of “ties with the Kremlin”, the situation is quite capable of leading to a precedent regarding NATO. Well, it just so happens that in the West any tendencies that do not meet the interests of Washington are customarily suspected of personally having ties with the Kremlin and Vladimir Putin ...

What are the representatives of the German opposition focusing on? The fact that, firstly, the NATO ideology makes Germany one of the first targets for a retaliatory strike by Russia, and secondly, the fact that Germany still remains virtually occupied territory. If from the beginning of the 2000s the size of the American military contingent in Germany began to decline, now the US occupation contingent is returning to its usual format at a steady pace - up to 50 thousand troops at several German military bases, including land, naval and aviation. Given such American forces in Germany, it is simply foolish to consider the policy of the current German authorities independent. In addition, the fact that the average German taxpayer, in addition to millions of refugees from the Middle East and North Africa, is forced to “help” the United States in supporting the US military, who have settled “rooted” in the FRG from their own funds. So far, the average taxpayer, perhaps, with a “backward mind” understands that his taxes do not always go where he needs to, and that American “defenders” are still defenders ... And the goal of the German Left movement today is to that this “backward mind” of German taxpayers grew into real German logic and pragmatism.

Against this background, the words of the Ambassador of the Russian Federation in Germany, Vladimir Grinin, expressed in an interview with the newspaper "News". According to Grinin, it is simply impossible to build a world order system without Russia's participation. According to the Russian ambassador, even the representatives of the German federal authorities speak out about the actions of NATO at the borders of the Russian Federation as provocative. In particular, the head of the German Foreign Ministry, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, who can hardly be suspected of sympathizing with Russia, called the NATO maneuvers “Anaconda” “a provocation that is not beneficial to balanced relations.”

So is it possible that Germany in NATO (or outside NATO) will create a precedent for building a unified security system "from Lisbon to Vladivostok"? As one of the factors that may ultimately speak in favor of this, one can cite the following: after Britain’s withdrawal from the EU, Germany becomes an unequivocal European locomotive. At the same time, the burden on the repeatedly mentioned German taxpayers increases. In addition, the NATO format provides for 2% of expenditures from the German budget, including for servicing the American occupying contingent. With all the power of the German economy to pull such a burden, and even try to take into account the "concerns" of Poland and other Baltic states towards Russia, Berlin may not be able to do. But still, you want - you do not want, serve the American debt, fulfill the requirements of the American courts in relation to German companies (as an example, exaggerated scandal with the “exhaust” of Volkswagen), support anti-Russian sanctions, send your troops to the Baltic countries, Syria and Iraq .. In general, the "Alternative for Germany" has a lot of chances to bring to the German minds the fact that Germany is used as a pony horse, whipped up by the whip in the hands of the overseas owner. And that from such a prodding the horse can even "hover" with its hooves ... But if they bring it to the minds, then even Brexit will look like a child's toy for the West ...

Gypsy girl German girl with the exit ... from NATO. Why? But what if?..
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 8 July 2016 06: 30
    +12
    Gypsy is a German woman with an exit ... from NATO. And what? But what if?..

    It is unlikely that this can be hoped for. At least at this stage. Just the mericatos will not allow this. It was not for nothing that the Fuhrer was on their hook, and she didn’t want to hike it at all! bully
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 8 July 2016 06: 39
      +18
      Between Lisbon and Vladivostok "Uralvagonzavod", and not Berlin, if that. laughing
    3. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS 8 July 2016 07: 18
      +31
      Quote: aszzz888
      Just mericatos will not allow this.

      A month later, it will be revealed according to "data from social networks" that Sarah Wagenknecht takes meldonium, rapes black maids, takes bribes and fights in ISIS. And also rides on bears with Putin. (one should laugh sarcastically, but somehow not funny)
    4. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 8 July 2016 08: 28
      +1
      Quote: aszzz888
      It is unlikely that this can be hoped for. At least at this stage. Just the mericatos will not allow this. It was not for nothing that the Fuhrer was on their hook, and she didn’t want to hike it at all!

      How will they not allow it? How will this be realized against many people? One Fuhrer is easier to control and keep on a rope, and she herself will not always rule the country and how and who can stop the movement that has begun, 64 percent of the people, albeit selectively (from a neighboring topic)
      As the influential German newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine recently reported, 64 percent of 2054 respondents support the position of Minister Steinmeier, who does not want to escalate the situation.

      - this is not enough. First Brexit, then on and on, and no one can stop this. Well, perhaps by establishing a military-police dictatorship throughout Europe.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 8 July 2016 11: 48
        -2
        Security from Lisbon to Vladivostok? And the more eastern Russian lands seem to be unworthy? It would be more correct to write security from Cape Roca to Ratmanov Island.
  2. raf
    raf 8 July 2016 06: 34
    +3
    Gypsy is a German woman with an exit ... from NATO. And what? But what if?..
    "Fresh tradition, but hard to believe!" As much as we would like it will not happen. As Stanislavsky said: “I don’t believe!”.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 8 July 2016 07: 12
      +2
      Quote: raf
      "Fresh tradition, but hard to believe!" As much as we would like it will not happen. As Stanislavsky said: “I don’t believe!”.

      The economy is not a theater and here I believe, I don’t believe it doesn’t work. So we have to think about the fact that "Bolivar will not take out two." Or rather, a crowd of freeloaders. The German economy may simply collapse. But Merkel does not understand this. Yesterday it was the brink of ruin.
      << after Britain left the EU, Germany is turning into an unequivocal locomotive of the European Union. At the same time, the burden on the repeatedly mentioned German taxpayers increases. In addition, the NATO format provides for 2% of spending from the German budget, including for servicing the American occupying contingent. With all the power of the German economy, Berlin may not be able to pull such a burden, and even try to take into account the "concerns" of Poland and the rest of the Baltic states regarding Russia. And yet, if you like it or not, service the American debt, fulfill the requirements of the American courts against German companies (as an example, the inflated Volkswagen exhaust scandal), support anti-Russian sanctions, direct your continent to the Baltic countries, Syria and Iraq .. In general, the "Alternative for Germany" has many chances to bring to the German minds the fact that Germany is used as a draft horse, whipped in the hands of an overseas owner. And that from such a prodding a horse can "push" with its hooves ... But if it is brought to mind, then for the West even Brexit will look like a child's toy ... >>
    2. Lyubopyatov
      Lyubopyatov 8 July 2016 13: 50
      0
      "DON'T WANT - or" no matter how much you want "?
  3. major124
    major124 8 July 2016 06: 41
    +5
    I would like to believe that Sarah is sincere ... if so, then it would be nice to see her as chancellor ... At worst, from euronations, the Germans are closest to us .... not even Poles or Serbs .... C with the arrival of Peter we have all the Empresses of Germany ... wink
  4. knn54
    knn54 8 July 2016 06: 49
    +6
    Both World Wars were aimed at preventing the global unification of Germany and Russia, as well as their PRIMAL destruction.
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 8 July 2016 16: 53
      0
      Quote: knn54
      Both World Wars were aimed at preventing the global unification of Germany and Russia.

      Because of this, Germany attacked but the USSR? Interesting version ...
  5. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 8 July 2016 06: 49
    +1
    I can say one thing: today the Germans (not to be confused with the government) in Europe are the most adequate people, along with, perhaps, the French, and therefore, against the backdrop of recent events in the EU, some kind of NATO reconstruction can be expected (I do not insist on reform).
  6. Bayonet
    Bayonet 8 July 2016 06: 52
    +9
    The German left, this is how we have Zyuganov. They will talk and calm down, and it’s naive to hope for Germany’s withdrawal from NATO! hi
    1. Lyubopyatov
      Lyubopyatov 8 July 2016 13: 52
      0
      A careless bayonet, a comparison with Zyuganov should be a shame for the German left. Yes, you seem to have heard about them for the first time.
    2. Al1977
      Al1977 8 July 2016 16: 55
      0
      Quote: Bayonet
      The German left, this is how we have Zyuganov. They will talk and calm down, and it’s naive to hope for Germany’s withdrawal from NATO!

      I agree. They are not badly fed there, for what should they go?
  7. inkass_98
    inkass_98 8 July 2016 06: 56
    +4
    An American-occupied country cannot have an opinion on the occupier. So the Germans sit in NATO until the moment the last people leave and the Ruin enters.
  8. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 8 July 2016 07: 00
    +2
    As Nemchuru smelled in the 45th, and still do not get off the gansiks to this day .... and these miserables forbid us to poke a finger in our nose? Wonderful are your deeds, Lord, happening in this Nyukovskaya dead end. hi
  9. parusnik
    parusnik 8 July 2016 07: 11
    +2
    Gypsy is a German woman with an exit ... from NATO. And what? But what if?..... Not today ... and not tomorrow ... and not in a year ... As in the movie "The Most Charming and Attractive" ..:
    - My mother-in-law died at Petrov, we give 50 kopecks each ..
    - I also have a mother-in-law, but everything can be ..
  10. Knowing
    Knowing 8 July 2016 07: 15
    +7
    With all due respect to the Author, BUT, "... a German girl with an exit ... from NATO. But what? What if? .."
    - don’t go, and mustache here ... repeat The Andromeda nebula is closer to Russia than the understanding of the Anglo-Saxons and Normans ... recourse They are rude, bastards ... Khe.
  11. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 8 July 2016 07: 50
    +1
    Enough! Let everything remain as it is! But we will know that the Germans will not throw us at the next euro-schuher, because they have already thrown us like all other NATO members with promises that will not spread to our borders.
  12. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 8 July 2016 07: 51
    +9
    "A German gypsy girl with an exit ... from NATO. But what? What if? .."

    Yes, yes, yes ... Dear expensive - and what, what if! Adult people, and they write unknowingly that - the Germans will suddenly leave NATO. But who will let them come out with so many American bases on the territory and with a foreign exchange reserve of Germany in the US vaults ... If they paid the Americans resignedly 15 billion on demand, for a joint of Volkswagen invented by the Americans. Yes, and the Germans were not the same for a long time, I would look at the statistics as a percentage of how many Germans actually remained in Germany, against the backdrop of Turks, Jews, Moroccans and other refugees ..
    1. Lyton
      Lyton 8 July 2016 09: 24
      +2
      You know, there are rumors that there are no gold and foreign exchange reserves of Germany in the US vaults, they say they profiled, there is nothing to give. belay and the Germans are not the same, Israel is more competent in military affairs.
  13. Viktor fm
    Viktor fm 8 July 2016 07: 58
    +7
    Such articles in favor of the poor, another international. The Germans are still virgins and they will remain them, no matter what clothes they wear.
  14. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 8 July 2016 08: 05
    +3
    Come on! This can not be - after all, Germany is actually an occupied country. It has remained, for more than 70 years. This is how the Germans begin to wonder, to remove these troops from their territory, so they will quickly be told who is the boss in the house ...
  15. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 8 July 2016 08: 31
    +6
    At the same time, Sarah Wagenknecht criticized the participation of German troops in NATO military exercises near the borders of Russia.

    Kaby did not bang Sarah, like that senator in England ... gardener, damn it. In big politics, all methods are good, and even the arrogant Saxons do not disdain any methods at all. The only sound politician in Germany. It must be protected and protected. When will the next election be there? So until then, and to guard, and the closer the election, the more thoroughly.
    And about the half-crazy and the protege of the arms lobby in the White House - coolly said, respect hi
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 8 July 2016 10: 01
      +1
      Test picture :)
  16. Million
    Million 8 July 2016 10: 02
    +4
    Boltology. The Germans are just one of the alliance’s key links; no one will let them out.
  17. pigkiller
    pigkiller 8 July 2016 10: 12
    +2
    Germany is still occupied by countries - former allies of the anti-Hitler coalition. With the exception of Russia, the successor of the USSR in accordance with its international obligations.
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 8 July 2016 16: 56
      0
      Quote: pigkiller
      Germany is still occupied by countries

      Poor people, I really want to feel sorry for the Bavarians ... Maybe I can open them visa-free travel to us, let them live with us .. they live in freedom.
  18. DimYang
    DimYang 8 July 2016 12: 50
    +2
    Sarah well done. She is a German patriot and she voices what many have in mind, but they are afraid to say. The ice has broken, the Germans have a desire for independence and real sovereignty. The main thing is that they understood who their enemy was.
    1. japs
      japs 8 July 2016 20: 30
      +3
      Sarah well done. She is a German patriot and she voices what many have in mind, but they are afraid to say.

      Sarah is as much a native German as I am a Martian. In the German political elite, in percentage terms, there are much more Jews than the Germans themselves.
      Google.

      The Germans may think about the whole mess that is going on with them, but only at night, to themselves. Their laws are harsh.
  19. denchik1977
    denchik1977 8 July 2016 13: 49
    +1
    Germany is currently in a rather difficult situation: firstly, the current leadership, headed by Angela Merkel, is playing the role of the "tame dog" of the US administration, and secondly, the hospitality of "Aunt Merkel" towards migrants from the Middle East has so heated up the situation in the country that the birth and New Year rapes in Cologne and other cities of the country were replaced by sexual violence in swimming pools, spa-salons, saunas and schools, and thirdly, the sanctions against Russia dealt a significant economic blow to Germany. But the most important thing is that in Germany (not to mention the Baltic countries) the "vaccination against Nazism" is no longer valid after the Second World War. Well, after Great Britain actually made a step towards leaving the European Union, there was again talk in Germany about the creation of a "single superstate in Europe", which some have already dubbed the 4th "Reich". It seems that Germany has decided to tread on the same "historical rake" again.
    But now, instead of a single economic space from Lisbon to Vladivostok, Germany, like the rest of Europe, is ready "for a new crusade to the East." However, the population of Germany today, instead of beer and Bavarian sausages, can get another "weighty kick", which will force the next 100-200 years to sit "on the fifth point exactly" quieter than water and lower than grass, or in the worst scenario for Europe, Russia will have to once and for all " to discourage "Europe, and the whole West from hunting from periodic" trips to the East "simply by twisting his neck like a mad dog. Ps: and if the flow of adherents of radical Islam does not decrease in the near future, then Russia for Germany and the rest of Europe can become "the savior of the Christian religion and Christian values."
  20. egor-kz
    egor-kz 8 July 2016 14: 01
    0
    What Germany is doing in this bloc is really not very clear, but it is a fact that Kashchenko is crying for her (Germany's) leadership.
  21. potapych
    potapych 8 July 2016 18: 09
    0
    it would not be bad to ruin NATO soldier
  22. Stilet
    Stilet 8 July 2016 20: 28
    +1
    If Germany leaves NATO it will be a blow to the States between the big toes.
  23. iouris
    iouris 8 July 2016 21: 08
    0
    If only, if only. Do not forget about the demonstrations of the workers in France. The essence of the processes lies in Europe's gross unwillingness to join TTIP. The negotiations were conducted on behalf of the entire EU. Any change in size or staffing will nullify these negotiations. "Russia's entry into Europe" in whole or in parts means conspiracy in favor of raw material monopolies behind the back of the people.
  24. Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 8 July 2016 21: 24
    0
    Quote: Stilet
    If Germany leaves NATO it will be a blow to the States between the big toes.

    It will not work, this is the basis of NATO in Europe, Gorbi sold everything (re-read Yu.Semenov, he’s not science fiction) !!!
    (IMHO)
    Not about the internal situation, about the military, MANY sold, VERY MUCH !!!
    It's just that even the modern "elite" didn't UNDERSTAND the Hell !!!! How long can you ride the spiral of history ??? !!! Clever invented, the crowd cheered !!!
    What is a spiral of history, a wider rake, justified by the dead ??? !!!