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Chinese Air Force officially adopted the heavy transport Y-20

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The PLA Air Force officially adopted the Y-20 transport aircraft, reports TASS the message of the representative of the Air Force of the country, Shen Jinke.




“The flight machine has a maximum take-off weight of 200 tons and is ideal for transporting cargo and personnel over long distances in different weather conditions,” said Jinka.

“The arrival of this aircraft into service means a decisive step for the Chinese Air Force in improving the capabilities of demonstrating strategic power,” he stressed.

According to him, the Chinese army "needs the best transport to fulfill its military duty - to protect national sovereignty, to conduct domestic and international search and rescue operations, auxiliary missions."

Jinke recalled that Chinese aviation “It was used for the transport of goods, including in emergency conditions, on the territory of Mongolia, Nepal, Pakistan, Thailand, and other countries where various emergencies have occurred in recent years.”

Y-20 was developed in China at the Sian airline, made its first flight at the beginning of 2013.
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  1. Primipilus
    Primipilus 7 July 2016 12: 23
    +3
    Well, congratulations. I wonder how they are doing with the engine?
    1. svp67
      svp67 7 July 2016 12: 28
      +6
      Quote: Primipilus
      Well, congratulations.

      Their YES, but we should think well, what and when will we replace the Ruslan with our own planes or buy from China, and how many do we need?
      1. Verdun
        Verdun 7 July 2016 12: 40
        +8
        Quote: svp67
        but we should think well about what and when we will replace Ruslan with our planes

        An-124 is our plane. It is another matter that as a result of the vague policy of Russia over the previous twenty years, we not only disassociated ourselves from Ukraine, but also lost the ability to produce Ruslan. That being said, I see no reason to buy the Y-20. Our Il-76MD-90a is a good aircraft that has already proven its qualities, and the Chinese is good so far only in the statements of its manufacturers. Another thing is that with the appearance of the Y-20 for this niche for the supply of aircraft to China will most likely be lost for Russia. But this is only an excuse to intensify work on the creation of new aircraft, not equal to competitors, but significantly superior to them. And China can only be congratulated. The guys move forward without slowing down.
        1. svp67
          svp67 7 July 2016 13: 04
          +3
          Quote: Verdun
          Another thing is that with the advent of the Y-20, this niche for delivering aircraft to China will most likely be lost for Russia.

          And is it only there? I know the Chinese skills "multiply" I think there will be a lot of them soon, too many so that we don't feel it when selling our planes
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 7 July 2016 13: 10
          +1
          We did not lose the opportunities for the production of Ruslans, but we lost the right to manufacture these aircraft — this remained in Ukraine.
          1. Odysseus
            Odysseus 7 July 2016 14: 07
            +1
            Quote: Vadim237
            and lost the right to manufacture these aircraft - it remained in Ukraine.

            This is just not a problem and it’s easy to do a purely Chinese maneuver, some locknut is pinned to the plane and voila we have a completely new plane.
        3. iouris
          iouris 7 July 2016 18: 55
          0
          Quote: Verdun
          according to the results of Russia's slurred politics

          I do not agree: the policy is very intelligible. The result is negative only for 95% of the population, the rest consider this policy to be the only true one.
          China, India and Brazil will no longer buy from a third world country: they are only interested in mastering the technology.
      2. Pavel1
        Pavel1 7 July 2016 13: 48
        0
        Quote: svp67
        Their YES, but we should think well, what and when will we replace the Ruslan with our own planes or buy from China, and how many do we need?


        How can I change the Ruslan with a carrying capacity of 150 tons to this u20-66t ??? Are you out of your mind there?
        1. svp67
          svp67 7 July 2016 15: 21
          0
          Quote: Paul1
          How can I change the Ruslan with a carrying capacity of 150 tons to this u20-66t ??? Are you out of your mind there?

          Thank you "master" opened my eyes, the meaning of my question is different. China has already made a competitor to our Il-76 and knowing their "fertility", the J-20 will soon be a lot, a lot. And if we don’t do anything now, then they will have an analogue of "Ruslan", and we will all dream of "Ermak"
      3. Muvka
        Muvka 7 July 2016 14: 05
        0
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: Primipilus
        Well, congratulations.

        Their YES, but we should think well, what and when will we replace the Ruslan with our own planes or buy from China, and how many do we need?

        An analogue of this is the IL-76. What does Ana have to do with it?
    2. razmik72
      razmik72 7 July 2016 12: 31
      +2
      Quote: Primipilus
      Well, congratulations.

      Dear Chinese people didn’t do anything bad to me and my country personally, but I don’t like them because they are too persistent. On the one hand, this is a plus for them, but on the other hand, it is a minus for those who will be targeted by these "ants" smile .
      1. jjj
        jjj 7 July 2016 12: 52
        0
        We’ll wait and see how it will work. Only then will everything become clear
    3. xetai9977
      xetai9977 7 July 2016 13: 04
      0
      The scale of the proposed purchases is astounding - SEVERAL HUNDREDS! Sites wrote about this yesterday. The scope is impressive, nothing to say!
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 7 July 2016 14: 10
        +1
        Quote: xetai9977
        The scale of the proposed purchases is astounding - SEVERAL HUNDREDS!

        Well: big army, big production, big ambitions.
    4. Juborg
      Juborg 7 July 2016 13: 46
      +2
      200 tons maximum take-off weight, this is understandable, but what except? What weight of the load can lift, what is the range, altitude, speed, is there a tightness of the cargo compartment, etc. Takeoff weight does not mean anything. Moreover, they say he flies on Russian engines, and the IL-76 of 1974 had a take-off mass of 217 tons. It’s just a statement of fact, I would like more information and more specific.
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 7 July 2016 14: 01
        0
        Quote: juborg
        What is the weight of the load able to lift

        The Chinese say 66 tons.
        Quote: juborg
        what is the range

        4400 km at full load.
        Quote: juborg
        Moreover, they say he flies on Russian engines

        His will be in a couple of years.
  2. GradusHuK
    GradusHuK 7 July 2016 12: 26
    0
    The pace of development is visible! Congratulations to China!
  3. berezin1987
    berezin1987 7 July 2016 12: 39
    +2
    Well done Chinese. It is immediately obvious that they are not idle. Even if they borrow something from foreign designs, they always try to do it themselves. And so the plane is not remarkable, an analogue of our il-76.
    1. FID
      FID 7 July 2016 12: 47
      +6
      Quote: berezin1987
      analog of our il-76

      Rather, an analogue of the American Globmaster (C-17) ....
      1. berezin1987
        berezin1987 7 July 2016 12: 53
        0
        There the design has borrowed from IL-76. In terms of carrying capacity, it is between ours and American. Engines are a copy of ours.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 7 July 2016 13: 31
          0
          EMNIP, there also Antonovtsy participated.
          So - a traditional Chinese chimera: take Ilyushin, Antonov and Boeing - and mix but do not shake. smile
        2. Muvka
          Muvka 7 July 2016 14: 09
          0
          Quote: berezin1987
          There the design has borrowed from IL-76. In terms of carrying capacity, it is between ours and American. Engines are a copy of ours.

          load capacity with silt is the same. Compare max take-off weight and empty weight.
  4. knn54
    knn54 7 July 2016 12: 45
    0
    Russian engines, Ukrainian wings (unrealized project of the An-170 heavy military transport aircraft) - Chinese aircraft.
    PS True, the transport compartment is similar in design to that installed on the S-17.
  5. ksv36
    ksv36 7 July 2016 12: 49
    0
    Quote: berezin1987
    And so the plane is not remarkable, an analogue of our IL-76.


    Well, if not a license, someone sold for 13 pieces of silver.
    1. berezin1987
      berezin1987 7 July 2016 12: 54
      0
      The Chinese is not a copy, he uses separate components and design solutions from other aircraft.
  6. kapitan92
    kapitan92 7 July 2016 12: 50
    +9
    (Pictured is a Y-20 next to a Boeing C-17 of the UAE Air Force). The new Y-20 military transport aircraft was built by the Xi'an Aircraft Company and, according to military experts, it has been in development since the 1990s, and received priority government funding in 2006. The project of a new "200-ton transport", which later received the Y-20 index, was approved three years later, at the same time work began on the creation of a flight prototype. It is noted that outwardly, the Y-20 is similar to the Il-76, has almost the same dimensions and wing arrangement, but it does not have a separate navigator's cabin, due to which the aircraft's crew is reduced to 3 people. In this case, the transport compartment, according to experts, is closer in design to that installed on the C-17 "Globemaster" III. According to unofficial data, the characteristics of the Y-20 are superior to the classic Il-76: the Chinese media, referring to the military, write that the maximum payload of the new aircraft is 66 tons versus 60 for the Il-76MF modification. The maximum range with the maximum load of the Y-20 is 4400 km. However, there is no official confirmation of these characteristics yet: Chinese television only mentions 60 tons of payload and a cruising speed of 630 km / h.
    The Chinese aircraft industry is still dependent on Russia. It is noted that the Y-20 prototype has four D-30 turbojet engines developed by the Solovyov Design Bureau of the 1960s. The PRC relies on WS-20 engines and hopes to install them on production samples of the Y-20, but at what stage development of the WS-20 is currently unknown.
    Largely due to outdated engines in terms of tactical and technical characteristics, the Chinese aircraft is most likely inferior to the newest Russian transport aircraft Il-76MD-90A, which first flew in October 2012. The maximum range of the new Russian aircraft is 5000 km at maximum load, and the new PS-90A-76 engines provide them with great savings and a speed of 850 km / h. The American media openly assert that the wing for the Chinese aircraft was developed in Ukraine by the Antonov aircraft manufacturer. The Voice of Russia has already reported that the Y-20 is based on an unrealized project of the An-170 heavy military transport aircraft. If the Y-20 project is successful, and the new aircraft show the declared characteristics, China may well swing at the construction of 300 aircraft of this type in order to form a strategic military transport fleet, not inferior in terms of the capabilities of the Russian and US Air Forces, experts say. However, it will be some time before the Chinese military can assess the Y-20's capabilities and launch the WS-20 engines into series production.
  7. Cat man null
    Cat man null 7 July 2016 12: 52
    +1
    Quote: ksv36
    Well, if not a license, someone sold for 13 pieces of silver

    - 13 Silver Pads good
  8. Arikkhab
    Arikkhab 7 July 2016 12: 54
    +3
    the Chinese got a "hellish mixture" - the fuselage is strangely similar to the An-70 (the same shapes and landing gear - the Ukrainians helped in no other way), the wing and engines from the Il-76, the tail section as the twin of the C-17 ...
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 July 2016 13: 02
    0
    So far, they have only "announced" new engines, and have not put them on airplanes. With engines of the AL-31 type for Sushki, the story still drags on. Copy - copied, but with the resource ... the trouble. Saturn continues to supply these engines to China. I think our D-30 will be relevant for these aircraft for a long time. And the plane is yes. Serious.
  10. vowa48
    vowa48 7 July 2016 13: 22
    0
    Judging by the profile, the Chinese will not be able to do what IL can do, THIS IS ONE FOR UNPREPARED TAKEOFF in the field !!! - it can ONLY IL and NO ONE MORE. Ukrainians sold all the documentation for manufactured and developed AN planes to China, the KB AN is closed, so it looks like the AN-170.
  11. PROXOR
    PROXOR 7 July 2016 13: 44
    +2
    A mixture of a bulldog with a rhino. I do not understand all this hype around the Chinese transporter. Takes only 50 tons. And then it is not clear what distance he is taking them, given what is done on the same engines as the IL-76.
    Our IL-76MD-90 takes 60 tons and carries 4000 km. So all these stories around the Chinese are empty.
  12. sinoptic
    sinoptic 7 July 2016 15: 40
    +1
    China stubbornly refuses to buy our equipment, relying on its own.
    On the one hand, it is commendable, on the other, it causes some suspicion that he is not going to fight us.
    1. KnightRider
      KnightRider 7 July 2016 17: 56
      +1
      Quote: sinoptic
      China stubbornly refuses to buy our equipment, relying on its own.
      On the one hand, it is commendable, on the other, it causes some suspicion that he is not going to fight us.

      Not only buys, but also repairs the same IL-76MD from us soldier By the way, Ilov likes their heavenly coloration much more than the monotonous gray tone of the Y-20 (like NATO) ... Why have they moved away from their own?
  13. Nik2013
    Nik2013 7 July 2016 20: 50
    0
    Well done Chinese