On the plum Putin Russian patriotism in Turkish tomatoes
A rather strange feeling from reading some analytical materials and especially from the comments of the readers (or pretending to be reading) here.
Surprise another explosion, "Putinslil, betrayed us!", Perhaps, no longer surprised. You want, you do not want, and you will develop immunity from pseudo-patriotism, for the hangover from this drink is worse than from fake vodka. But one must not only eat into the head, it is also useful for her to think.
And with this, those who play from pseudo-patriotism are obviously quite complicated. This is also noticeable by how many people spoke with frank mockery about the lack of patriotism among the Russians, about Erdogan’s supposedly political victories, that we were once again betrayed. Changed to the beaches and tomatoes.
Yes, the situation unwound with a speed that nobody expected. As soon as Putin announced the lifting of sanctions in the tourist market, Turkey immediately became number one in popularity. Sorry, this is the FSB for the apartments went, forcing the Russians to buy vouchers? Or did they spit on something?
For the sake of justice, I note that back in June, crossing Belarus, on the M1 highway leading to Minsk, I observed a rather large number of Russian numbers on cars. No, it is clear that everyone during the holiday season urgently decided to visit their Belarusian relatives. But a couple of cars with surfboards on the roofs somehow made us doubt it.
In short, those who wanted to vote ruble for Antalya and other places, he voted. And he did not care about sanctions and other political jokes. This is his vacation, this is his choice.
Actually, why? Why to Turkey? And everything is simple. How many do not talk about the Crimean resorts, the service is still lame on both legs. Starting from a rather problematic and expensive journey and ending with prices that are clearly too high for such a resort. There is no need to write about the quality of rest.
For comparison, I took the example to rest for a resident of Novosibirsk. Flight Novosibirsk - Simferopol and a week later will cost back in 36 thousand rubles. The same operation, but with the destination Antalya - 40 thousands.
Not the most expensive holiday for two in Koktebel with two meals in economy class for a week - 36-37 thousand. The same is in Antalya (only they have a different concept of economy class) - from 60 thousands.
The difference seems to be hefty, 30%. But apparently there is something that outweighs these 30% and patriotism. "Prikormlennost" Russians certain places and level of service. And since it is necessary to go on vacation today, and the "future" resorts of Russia in the form of the Krasnodar Territory and the Crimea will reach the level of the Turkish exactly in the future, here's the result.
And then, when it was possible to stop the Russian bans? Planes do not fly, travel agencies do not work, ships do not float ... Nothing, they reached Berlin, and here Turkey is some kind ...
So these bans are more likely a challenge to the Russian mentality. Can't you? Yeah, right now ... Danger? Come on! Break through! And, characteristically, who wanted to - he broke through.
In general, these bans with Egypt and Turkey seem to be on hand to Russian tourist businessmen. However, this was written earlier, and we have a shorter season, and a lot of things, than with the Turks it is difficult to bear. But this is not a question for Putin, but for Medvedev. To make our vacation spots more attractive than the Turkish ones is the challenge. Which our government decided not to rush. What for? Easier to ban.
But the Turkish humble servant from the tourist industry is more attractive than a fellow countryman who helps to rest. Fact? Indisputable.
And it turns out in practice that a Russian who has rushed to Turkey is either a patriot or a patriot, but prefers to spend his money the way he likes. If in my opinion - not a patriot, of course. This is a true patriot who doesn’t care about what is happening, and he would not go to the Turks, and godfather Sereyuga would dissuade Kohl’s friend.
However, given the fact that our government frankly doesn’t care about many aspects of our existence, it’s not much that we want to blame the non-patriots. The question arises: why do the rulers here do not want to make it so that in the Crimea and the Krasnodar Territory it will be no worse, but cheaper to rest?
I emphasize boldly: not more expensive in Turkey, but cheaper in the Crimea.
To make rest in Turkey and Egypt more expensive - it’s not a lot of mind. But in Russia it is cheaper to make and not worse - yes, I’ll have to plow here. But having plowed, and bringing everything into conformity, so much so that the people could see and feel this, then it is possible to drag out patriotism.
Returning to our pseudo-patriots, we can offer a very simple way to solve the problem. Do not rest in Turkey, the benefit no one forces. Boycott Turkish goods. The best way to show your patriotism. As with the "Roshen" came out. Boycotted? Boycotted. And with us, in 100 km from the factory, the "Roshenovsky" candies in the afternoon with fire cannot be found in the city. Traders do not take them from warehouses, since they are not sold separately.
The same with Turkish goods and services.
And to smoke on websites and forums, tearing traffic that Putin leaked everyone and betrayed everyone ... Meaning? Show yourself cool or in the hope that Putin will reach? Strange approach.
Now let's go around and around Putin for a walk.
What was it screaming about? On the joint fight against terrorism and the use of Incirlik? And so what? In general, this base, we need it? Yes, the attacks were, they say, the Turks are reptiles such, first they promised a base, then they changed their minds. And then again decided to allow it to use.
And do we need this base at all? Is there any point in using it? VKS have proven that they are quite able to cope with the tasks and without the use of Turkish territory. From its base, on the territory of a friendly country. Incirlik also belongs to NATO. That is the United States. Albeit on Turkish soil. With all the ensuing consequences.
Verdict: not needed. Political move, nothing more.
But why all pseudo-and ultra-patriots see the situation only from one side? And from the same side they voice their precious opinion?
But everything is simple. Erdogan in the corner. Really knocked over. The Europeans strongly offended the Turkish president, if not ticker. The promises that have been made for many years are not fulfilled. And Turkey is unlikely to become Europe in the coming years, or even decades. Moreover, thanks in large part to Western partners, she lost her position in politics and in the economy. Well, and we helped, with what could, have such. Well, about the United States just to say nothing.
But you can say for Turkey in general and Erdogan in particular. The situation has changed a lot, and not for the better. There was, frankly, Syrian stolen oil. There was a tourist flow from both Europe and Europe. There were sanctions on Iran, Turkey’s closest rival. There were advances by the United States and Europe, caused precisely by "tourist traffic" to Europe. There were even certain guarantees and promises.
And suddenly, at one moment, somehow it was all over. For the point of reference, you can take the time of the launch of the rocket on our bomber.
And after some half a year the situation took on a completely different alignment. Already the above, plus more "excellent" relations with all the neighbors in the region. Plus Russia. Plus, a sudden series of recognition of the Armenian Genocide by the Turks.
And here there were two ways of development of events. Either continue to quietly bend Turkey economically, implementing the policy of various embargoes and prohibitions, or vice versa, to rely on a certain warming of relations.
In other words, to caress Erdogash, scratch behind the ear, then wipe the muzzle on the knee with the question: "What are you, someone's cat, doing? Not good!"
The trial ball was launched and fell into a pocket with the help of Israel. Let's remember how “suddenly” the Turks woke up the desire to improve relations with Israel. And how it was openly discussed in the conversation between Putin and Netanyahu. And as Putin said he does not see anything wrong with Israel and Turkey taking steps towards each other.
Of course, if Putin listened to our couch Internet host, then he should have started to threaten Israel with all imaginable and inconceivable punishments. As it is, they decided to negotiate with our enemies ... I’m not talking about the requirements of individual keyboard-calves for immediate strikes on Turkey with "Gauges" and other personal belongings from our arsenal.
But it turned out the way it did, and as a result we have what we have. And I would recommend to consider the development of events not from the “swallowed again” position, but from the position of the need to restore relations with Turkey.
Do not forget that the keys to the Black Sea in the hands of the Turks. It is a fact. Yes, of course, the catchers squeal in all ways that our Black Sea Fleet will solve this problem. But Turkey is a member of NATO. The second in quantitative and qualitative composition of the army. And the problem of the straits, as I would like the howling pseudo-patriots, cannot be solved.
Moreover, the purely Russian version is here: howling on the Internet is one thing, but to really go to war with Turkey over the straits is quite another. the first is preferable, for safer.
And the possibility of buying the security of our southern borders at the expense of Turkey, through political and economic means, is, if not a victory, then definitely not a defeat.
Let me remind, by the way, that before the NATO summit in Warsaw there is not much time left. And the decisions that will be made at this summit are mostly known. "Russia is the enemy and we must fight it." In short. And there is no special doubt that such an agenda will be adopted, for some reason.
Smart people today understand that stopping NATO today is not realistic. The scenario tested for the USSR works: to draw Russia into an arms race, with all the consequences that emanate from it. Putin, however, constantly says that we will not be drawn into the arms race. We simply have neither money, nor opportunities for this, nor, on the basis of the first two points, desire.
So, if there are no chances to win economically, you have to win politically. And that is exactly what Putin is doing now. Attracts to his side all who can. Interesting primarily economically.
There is no dispute, Erdogan proved to be a fair amount of trash. And playing with him in the political and economic games must be very careful. But we have to. Especially today, in the conditions of his finally spoiled relations with Europe and the USA. Because let's face it: Recep won't leave his throne. And it is difficult to dump him, because he has already strangled and transplanted all the opposition.
Of course, many of us now say that Erdogan needs that ... and another in his place. Not our style. Not ours. The Russian bear showed the Turkish Volcera that he could strangle him without using physical force. But while it is still possible to exist in a neighborly way. What will happen next - time will tell. Erdogan was given a straw to stretch, further depends on him personally.
In any case, as popular wisdom says, a bad world is better than a good quarrel.
One can only sympathize with those who demand clanging. weapons and wants complete isolation of Russia. These are really pseudo-patriots. Badly aware of what they say and write. Yes, more than a hundred years ago, one person said that Russia has only two allies, the army and the navy. That's when we have the fleet, then we'll talk on this topic.
And today’s isolation cannot live in isolation. And, by the way, Erdogan’s example here is indicative. Will eat
Therefore, it is not worth the second time to attack the Turkish rake. Applied to both situations. Let me explain: trust Erdogan as before - stupidity. But to follow the path of further confrontation is also not the smartest move. The truth is always somewhere in the middle, but I hope that Putin’s possession of the truth is alright.
Surprise another explosion, "Putinslil, betrayed us!", Perhaps, no longer surprised. You want, you do not want, and you will develop immunity from pseudo-patriotism, for the hangover from this drink is worse than from fake vodka. But one must not only eat into the head, it is also useful for her to think.
And with this, those who play from pseudo-patriotism are obviously quite complicated. This is also noticeable by how many people spoke with frank mockery about the lack of patriotism among the Russians, about Erdogan’s supposedly political victories, that we were once again betrayed. Changed to the beaches and tomatoes.
Yes, the situation unwound with a speed that nobody expected. As soon as Putin announced the lifting of sanctions in the tourist market, Turkey immediately became number one in popularity. Sorry, this is the FSB for the apartments went, forcing the Russians to buy vouchers? Or did they spit on something?
For the sake of justice, I note that back in June, crossing Belarus, on the M1 highway leading to Minsk, I observed a rather large number of Russian numbers on cars. No, it is clear that everyone during the holiday season urgently decided to visit their Belarusian relatives. But a couple of cars with surfboards on the roofs somehow made us doubt it.
In short, those who wanted to vote ruble for Antalya and other places, he voted. And he did not care about sanctions and other political jokes. This is his vacation, this is his choice.
Actually, why? Why to Turkey? And everything is simple. How many do not talk about the Crimean resorts, the service is still lame on both legs. Starting from a rather problematic and expensive journey and ending with prices that are clearly too high for such a resort. There is no need to write about the quality of rest.
For comparison, I took the example to rest for a resident of Novosibirsk. Flight Novosibirsk - Simferopol and a week later will cost back in 36 thousand rubles. The same operation, but with the destination Antalya - 40 thousands.
Not the most expensive holiday for two in Koktebel with two meals in economy class for a week - 36-37 thousand. The same is in Antalya (only they have a different concept of economy class) - from 60 thousands.
The difference seems to be hefty, 30%. But apparently there is something that outweighs these 30% and patriotism. "Prikormlennost" Russians certain places and level of service. And since it is necessary to go on vacation today, and the "future" resorts of Russia in the form of the Krasnodar Territory and the Crimea will reach the level of the Turkish exactly in the future, here's the result.
And then, when it was possible to stop the Russian bans? Planes do not fly, travel agencies do not work, ships do not float ... Nothing, they reached Berlin, and here Turkey is some kind ...
So these bans are more likely a challenge to the Russian mentality. Can't you? Yeah, right now ... Danger? Come on! Break through! And, characteristically, who wanted to - he broke through.
In general, these bans with Egypt and Turkey seem to be on hand to Russian tourist businessmen. However, this was written earlier, and we have a shorter season, and a lot of things, than with the Turks it is difficult to bear. But this is not a question for Putin, but for Medvedev. To make our vacation spots more attractive than the Turkish ones is the challenge. Which our government decided not to rush. What for? Easier to ban.
But the Turkish humble servant from the tourist industry is more attractive than a fellow countryman who helps to rest. Fact? Indisputable.
And it turns out in practice that a Russian who has rushed to Turkey is either a patriot or a patriot, but prefers to spend his money the way he likes. If in my opinion - not a patriot, of course. This is a true patriot who doesn’t care about what is happening, and he would not go to the Turks, and godfather Sereyuga would dissuade Kohl’s friend.
However, given the fact that our government frankly doesn’t care about many aspects of our existence, it’s not much that we want to blame the non-patriots. The question arises: why do the rulers here do not want to make it so that in the Crimea and the Krasnodar Territory it will be no worse, but cheaper to rest?
I emphasize boldly: not more expensive in Turkey, but cheaper in the Crimea.
To make rest in Turkey and Egypt more expensive - it’s not a lot of mind. But in Russia it is cheaper to make and not worse - yes, I’ll have to plow here. But having plowed, and bringing everything into conformity, so much so that the people could see and feel this, then it is possible to drag out patriotism.
Returning to our pseudo-patriots, we can offer a very simple way to solve the problem. Do not rest in Turkey, the benefit no one forces. Boycott Turkish goods. The best way to show your patriotism. As with the "Roshen" came out. Boycotted? Boycotted. And with us, in 100 km from the factory, the "Roshenovsky" candies in the afternoon with fire cannot be found in the city. Traders do not take them from warehouses, since they are not sold separately.
The same with Turkish goods and services.
And to smoke on websites and forums, tearing traffic that Putin leaked everyone and betrayed everyone ... Meaning? Show yourself cool or in the hope that Putin will reach? Strange approach.
Now let's go around and around Putin for a walk.
What was it screaming about? On the joint fight against terrorism and the use of Incirlik? And so what? In general, this base, we need it? Yes, the attacks were, they say, the Turks are reptiles such, first they promised a base, then they changed their minds. And then again decided to allow it to use.
And do we need this base at all? Is there any point in using it? VKS have proven that they are quite able to cope with the tasks and without the use of Turkish territory. From its base, on the territory of a friendly country. Incirlik also belongs to NATO. That is the United States. Albeit on Turkish soil. With all the ensuing consequences.
Verdict: not needed. Political move, nothing more.
But why all pseudo-and ultra-patriots see the situation only from one side? And from the same side they voice their precious opinion?
But everything is simple. Erdogan in the corner. Really knocked over. The Europeans strongly offended the Turkish president, if not ticker. The promises that have been made for many years are not fulfilled. And Turkey is unlikely to become Europe in the coming years, or even decades. Moreover, thanks in large part to Western partners, she lost her position in politics and in the economy. Well, and we helped, with what could, have such. Well, about the United States just to say nothing.
But you can say for Turkey in general and Erdogan in particular. The situation has changed a lot, and not for the better. There was, frankly, Syrian stolen oil. There was a tourist flow from both Europe and Europe. There were sanctions on Iran, Turkey’s closest rival. There were advances by the United States and Europe, caused precisely by "tourist traffic" to Europe. There were even certain guarantees and promises.
And suddenly, at one moment, somehow it was all over. For the point of reference, you can take the time of the launch of the rocket on our bomber.
And after some half a year the situation took on a completely different alignment. Already the above, plus more "excellent" relations with all the neighbors in the region. Plus Russia. Plus, a sudden series of recognition of the Armenian Genocide by the Turks.
And here there were two ways of development of events. Either continue to quietly bend Turkey economically, implementing the policy of various embargoes and prohibitions, or vice versa, to rely on a certain warming of relations.
In other words, to caress Erdogash, scratch behind the ear, then wipe the muzzle on the knee with the question: "What are you, someone's cat, doing? Not good!"
The trial ball was launched and fell into a pocket with the help of Israel. Let's remember how “suddenly” the Turks woke up the desire to improve relations with Israel. And how it was openly discussed in the conversation between Putin and Netanyahu. And as Putin said he does not see anything wrong with Israel and Turkey taking steps towards each other.
Of course, if Putin listened to our couch Internet host, then he should have started to threaten Israel with all imaginable and inconceivable punishments. As it is, they decided to negotiate with our enemies ... I’m not talking about the requirements of individual keyboard-calves for immediate strikes on Turkey with "Gauges" and other personal belongings from our arsenal.
But it turned out the way it did, and as a result we have what we have. And I would recommend to consider the development of events not from the “swallowed again” position, but from the position of the need to restore relations with Turkey.
Do not forget that the keys to the Black Sea in the hands of the Turks. It is a fact. Yes, of course, the catchers squeal in all ways that our Black Sea Fleet will solve this problem. But Turkey is a member of NATO. The second in quantitative and qualitative composition of the army. And the problem of the straits, as I would like the howling pseudo-patriots, cannot be solved.
Moreover, the purely Russian version is here: howling on the Internet is one thing, but to really go to war with Turkey over the straits is quite another. the first is preferable, for safer.
And the possibility of buying the security of our southern borders at the expense of Turkey, through political and economic means, is, if not a victory, then definitely not a defeat.
Let me remind, by the way, that before the NATO summit in Warsaw there is not much time left. And the decisions that will be made at this summit are mostly known. "Russia is the enemy and we must fight it." In short. And there is no special doubt that such an agenda will be adopted, for some reason.
Smart people today understand that stopping NATO today is not realistic. The scenario tested for the USSR works: to draw Russia into an arms race, with all the consequences that emanate from it. Putin, however, constantly says that we will not be drawn into the arms race. We simply have neither money, nor opportunities for this, nor, on the basis of the first two points, desire.
So, if there are no chances to win economically, you have to win politically. And that is exactly what Putin is doing now. Attracts to his side all who can. Interesting primarily economically.
There is no dispute, Erdogan proved to be a fair amount of trash. And playing with him in the political and economic games must be very careful. But we have to. Especially today, in the conditions of his finally spoiled relations with Europe and the USA. Because let's face it: Recep won't leave his throne. And it is difficult to dump him, because he has already strangled and transplanted all the opposition.
Of course, many of us now say that Erdogan needs that ... and another in his place. Not our style. Not ours. The Russian bear showed the Turkish Volcera that he could strangle him without using physical force. But while it is still possible to exist in a neighborly way. What will happen next - time will tell. Erdogan was given a straw to stretch, further depends on him personally.
In any case, as popular wisdom says, a bad world is better than a good quarrel.
One can only sympathize with those who demand clanging. weapons and wants complete isolation of Russia. These are really pseudo-patriots. Badly aware of what they say and write. Yes, more than a hundred years ago, one person said that Russia has only two allies, the army and the navy. That's when we have the fleet, then we'll talk on this topic.
And today’s isolation cannot live in isolation. And, by the way, Erdogan’s example here is indicative. Will eat
Therefore, it is not worth the second time to attack the Turkish rake. Applied to both situations. Let me explain: trust Erdogan as before - stupidity. But to follow the path of further confrontation is also not the smartest move. The truth is always somewhere in the middle, but I hope that Putin’s possession of the truth is alright.
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