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Trolls in uniform of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine go on the warpath

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Empty Crimean beaches, eating hedgehogs and the Internet on coupons. Where do the most ridiculous memes and the deepest analytics come from? Where is the largest trolls lair in Europe? Who pays for this holiday idiocy? By luck, we have a chance to find out the answers to these questions.

Publication of sensational documents of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense on the website “Anonymous” opened the veil of secrecy and gave the ground for serious reflection.

No pants, but wearing a hat

In all the armies of the world, without exception, informational confrontation is a secondary task. Simply put, the existence of propaganda units is possible only if the army is well dressed, well fed, properly armed and technically equipped at the proper level.

Only Poroshenko’s regime is capable of creating a situation where half-drunk “avatars” feed on pasture and rob nearby stalls, while the lion’s share of the defense budget is spent on информа information support ’. There are no analogues to this lawlessness in any country of the world. Even in the poorest countries in Africa, with which it is customary today to compare post-Maid Ukraine, local kings understand: the power that holds on bayonets should feed these bayonets. Otherwise, the trouble.

Of course, one would assume that networked-in pieces of paper are needed by Ukrainian military officials in order to conceal numerous facts of corruption and abuse. However, the scale of the propaganda tsunami clearly hints at the inconsistency of this version.

According to the documents of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry, the priority areas for advocacy work are practically all of Europe. Ukraine, Russia, Belarus, Poland, Romania, Hungary, Germany, the Netherlands - this is the habitat of Svidomo trolls.



Thus, you should not exaggerate the scale of the cut. One must have the courage to admit the obvious: Ukrainian propaganda exists, there is a lot of it and it is well paid for it. And they pay exactly those against whom this propaganda is directed.

Shitting Europe for her own money

Without a doubt, the published documents are a great reason for the EU to never again issue loans to the “young Ukrainian democracy”.

To see this, just look at the topics on which Ukrainian propagandists work. Among them, Europeans may be surprised to find:

- strengthening pro-Ukrainian sentiment among the citizens of the Netherlands;
- discredit the activities of the Polish ruling party "Law and Justice";
- incitement of interethnic conflicts;
- stimulation of protest activity in the Republic of Moldova;
- the creation and promotion of a negative image of Romania;
- blackening of the political leadership of Hungary and much more;
- Compromise of the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Germany Frank-Walter Steinmeier.



Looking at the scope of the “informational activity”, it is not difficult to understand where European financial aid actually goes and why none of the planned reforms have been implemented in the country so far.

Between the upper and the nether millstone

The absurdity of the situation lies in the fact that perhaps the most powerful propaganda machine in Eastern Europe operates in a country that is barely able to make ends meet.

The state of the Ukrainian economy is not just deplorable - it is terrifying and plunges into shock. The once prosperous Soviet republic today is at the level of the poorest countries in Africa. It is therefore absolutely not surprising that the "African" standard of living gives rise to "African" problems.

The impoverished population, the embittered army, the fattening oligarchs, the gangs of the Nazis, the uncontrolled migration of the population to the countries of Europe - these are the realities that Ukrainian propaganda hides from prying eyes.

In any case, the sad end of the experiment "Ukraine" is inevitable. Being between the hammer and the anvil, the Kiev regime will sooner or later be overthrown: the anti-people power will either be swept away by the hungry rebellion of the “non-slaves” or gently strangled by the European partners with their well-cared hands.
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  2. Sakhalininsk
    Sakhalininsk 7 July 2016 06: 16
    +7


    The new anthem of Kaklostan.
    1. Karasik
      Karasik 7 July 2016 07: 08
      +2
      Quote: Sakhalininets
      The new anthem of Kaklostan.

      The clip is cool, and the music is catchy. It can become a hit!
      1. Yuri Y.
        Yuri Y. 19 July 2016 20: 44
        0
        I would not mix everything (hopak with the Nazis). But damn, they themselves mixed everything. Again speaks of art. From this mix, they will not soon remember who they really are.
  3. Cananecat
    Cananecat 7 July 2016 06: 37
    +6
    Kakly themselves do not think of such a thing, it is too smoothly written. A dictation from Fashington, not otherwise.
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 7 July 2016 06: 51
      +11
      Canecat (1)
      Kakly themselves do not think of such a thing, it is too smoothly written.


      You might think that it is a big secret that in the SBU building at the address: 35, Vladimirskaya St., Kiev, the whole floor is occupied by Yusov advisers.
      So there is nothing to be surprised.
      1. Ivan Slavyanin
        Ivan Slavyanin 7 July 2016 07: 51
        +4
        The true look of ukrotroll and its burrows.
      2. The point
        The point 7 July 2016 12: 34
        0
        What's wrong with that? It is seen that the daughter of an officer!
    2. gaura
      gaura 7 July 2016 06: 52
      +6
      It doesn’t matter whose dictation, they believe in the protoucre, the digger of the Black Sea. Propaganda is a terrible thing that will destroy states in decades. And then there’s a dream in general: to create an information field that makes them believe in their exclusivity and wretchedness with the hostility of everyone else. In 5-10 years of such propaganda, if they survive, there will be a new Reich. And already for sure it will come back through 50 years with some neo-Bandera movement. Fascism is hitting
  4. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 7 July 2016 06: 40
    +7
    Trolling (and in general it cannot be called trolling) on ​​the part of "Ukrainian colleagues" is primarily intended for the domestic Ukrainian man in the street. In the square they play the role of a kind of informal "ministry of truth" that knows everything about everyone and says everything about everything. And their influence on the mentality of citizens of other countries should not be underestimated, but perhaps it is not worth overestimating either ...
    For as very intelligent people once said - the dog barks, the caravan goes...
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 7 July 2016 07: 14
      +9
      It should be noted that the population of Ukraine comes out to protest solely for mercantile reasons: utilities, other tariffs, pensions, etc. An exception I would call Victory Day, but here, it so happened that for residents of the former USSR, this is a very personal holiday, i.e. everything comes from the meaning: it is mine, to me, for me. Thus, in addition to obstruction, the authorities also managed to work quite effectively in the propaganda plan. At the very least, on the territory of Ukraine, as communication of any of the Russians with Ukrainians through the same social networks, for example, can testify to. Words from there may be different, but rhetoric and meaning are the same.
      1. CONTROL
        CONTROL 7 July 2016 07: 48
        +1
        Quote: samoletil18
        Thus, in addition to obstruction, the authorities also managed to work quite effectively in the propaganda plan. At the very least, on the territory of Ukraine, as communication of any of the Russians with Ukrainians through the same social networks, for example, can testify to. Words from there may be different, but rhetoric and meaning are the same.

        An example is http://www.politforums.net/, the best friend of all Ukrainian, Russian, liberal, pro-Putin .... and all-all-all!
        Absolutely illegible forum! Where is the unfiltered beer ...
      2. Chicot 1
        Chicot 1 7 July 2016 09: 08
        +2
        Quote: samoletil18
        It should be noted that the population of Ukraine comes out to protest solely for mercantile reasons: utilities, other tariffs, pensions, etc.

        So, on other occasions (more serious and political) they simply will not be allowed to leave. Strangle and roll ...
        Quote: samoletil18
        Thus, in addition to obstruction, the authorities also managed to work quite effectively in the propaganda plan

        Quite right - as I said above, Tyrnetov's "Ministry of Truth" of the Nezalezhnaya is primarily designed for the Ukrainian philistine ...
        Quote: samoletil18
        communication of any of the Russians with Ukrainians through the same social networks, for example. Words from there may be different, but the rhetoric and meaning are the same.

        Not always. In Ukraine, there are quite sane and adequate people who quite objectively and reasonably assess the situation in their country and around it. Another thing is that they are practically invisible and invisible in the screaming mass of "ukropatriots" and workers of the "ministry of truth." But they are ...

        PS Damn it, an analogy with the famous gopher from Okhlobystinskiy "DMB" (which is not visible, but which is laughing ), but the fact remains ...
  5. inkass_98
    inkass_98 7 July 2016 07: 04
    0
    The army needs to be fed, and the trolls only need to be fed, because there are quite a lot of completely stoned pretzels, which will scream for nothing, just to annoy the damned mos.k. alam with something. Plus a lot of help from the West for the same purposes, after all, it hasn't gone anywhere, just a little more began to be poured into the trough of the Svidomo, cutting off rations for someone in conditional Bulgaria. The tendency will change - the feeders will also change, instead of ukrobloggers they will feed some Lithuanians or, for example, Tajiks.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 July 2016 07: 04
    0
    take a look at the topics that Ukrainian propagandists work on

    The themes are really impressive. The countries of Europe just need to familiarize themselves with these topics in order to increase their horizons and understanding of "real Ukrainian democracy", together with a hand that is always stretched out towards the EU.
  7. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 7 July 2016 07: 07
    +9
    And a little about eating hedgehogs.
    Yes, we are. But only canned. Weep with pity, but eat crying (just don’t say to Kaklam that this is a soft toy, they still won’t believe it)
    1. rf xnumx
      rf xnumx 7 July 2016 07: 43
      +9
      Quote: Kos_kalinki9
      And a little about eating hedgehogs. Yes, eat. But only canned.

      Not always able to get it, we survive as we can request
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 7 July 2016 07: 47
        +10
        tref 72019 (4) SU
        Not always able to get it, we survive as we can

        Cats? No, not creative.
        Walk like a walk. The Arctic is ours. drinks laughing
      2. Tusv
        Tusv 7 July 2016 09: 43
        +6
        Quote: treble 72019
        Not always able to get it, we survive as we can

        I am totally obsessed with Wazmushon!
        Cats bring mice in a hungry year. And you put it in a frying pan. Breadwinner crying
        1. Peasant
          Peasant 7 July 2016 16: 39
          +5
          Tusv (7)
          Cats bring mice in a hungry year. And you put it in a frying pan. Breadwinner


          So at you probably the cat is trained. And mine, bastard, eats alone. Catch and eat. I'm really bad am explained and for good love that you need to share with the owner. She doesn’t listen to Nykhren. She purrs only somehow cunningly, cunningly laughingWhy not purr then on a full stomach.
    2. oborzevatel
      oborzevatel 7 July 2016 08: 47
      +5
      Quote: Kos_kalinki9
      And a little about eating hedgehogs.
      Yes, we are. But only canned. Weep with pity, but eat crying (just don’t say to Kaklam that this is a soft toy, they still won’t believe it)

      And I finally got coupons yesterday. For sugar, internet and vodka.
      Hooray!
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 7 July 2016 12: 42
        +5
        Quote: oborzevatel
        And I finally got coupons yesterday. For sugar, internet and vodka.
        Hooray!

        1 gigabyte of internet? Yes, you Olginets Savushkinsky!
        Ordinary people are given 100 Mb per year per family for dial-up 56 kb / s. And only on the gov.ru. domain
        1. oborzevatel
          oborzevatel 7 July 2016 13: 03
          +2
          Quote: Alexey RA
          1 gigabyte of internet? Yes, you Olginets Savushkinsky!
          Ordinary people are given 100 Mb per year per family for dial-up 56 kb / s. And only on the gov.ru. domain

          They give us a bear for two.
          Plus a premium for a home nuclear reactor.
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 7 July 2016 16: 19
            +2
            Quote: oborzevatel
            They give us a bear for two.
            Plus a premium for a home nuclear reactor.

            Oh you ... but I forgot to enter my own on the coupon form. fool
            Now again sign up in line for coupons for coupons. And celebrated at night every hour.
      2. varov14
        varov14 7 July 2016 20: 42
        0
        And I, as a veteran, was given a voucher for a condom, and my grandmother no longer wants to, as it may, be in Poroshenko’s dill, but he who drinks too will not come in handy.
        1. oborzevatel
          oborzevatel 8 July 2016 08: 37
          0
          Quote: varov14
          And as a veteran, they gave me a voucher for a condom, and my grandmother no longer wants to, as it may be, maybe in Poroshenko’s dill

          Why send a condom to the gandon?
  8. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 7 July 2016 07: 18
    +2
    Nothing new, all according to the recommendations of the "bent-footed" Joseph Goebbels: the more monstrous the lie, the faster they will believe in it, and even more so if people have been fouled by their brains for more than 20 years, the result is "on the face"! And the main victim of this rampant "moronism" is the long-suffering Ukrainian people ...
    1. varov14
      varov14 7 July 2016 21: 13
      0
      And if the people are glad to be deceived, the veterans still live there who fought directly against fascism or younger, who rebuilt and cost cities and enterprises. Kohl allowed themselves to be fooled, which means they didn’t really resist. As the granary, the nurse of the union, decided to row for themselves, but ... she deprives her greed of reason, the more wise ones kicked at reluctance.
  9. kind
    kind 7 July 2016 07: 50
    +3
    The Europeans gave birth to kaklomonstra, and now he devours them. Well, well deserved.
  10. rvRomanoff
    rvRomanoff 7 July 2016 08: 13
    -1
    The next milestone in the information war, comparable, perhaps, with the "controversial daughters of Crimean officers", with all the obviousness, are Medvedev's bots.
    1. oborzevatel
      oborzevatel 7 July 2016 08: 49
      +6
      Quote: rvRomanoff
      The next milestone in the information war, comparable, perhaps, with the "controversial daughters of Crimean officers", with all the obviousness, are Medvedev's bots.

      Is not a fact! lol
      1. varov14
        varov14 7 July 2016 21: 49
        0
        I am writing from E that in the burg, as the son of hereditary Kerzhaks, is democracy in our time, an illegally born girl of commune and that of the period of disintegration. In liberal, "free" states it does not exist, and the communists allowed it for the sake of their personal enrichment, now we have victorious liberalism and, of course, the end of communist democracy, and you have sanctions.
  11. svp67
    svp67 7 July 2016 08: 21
    +2
    The document is somehow strange. Like an action program, but at the end there is an appeal "Sincerely". What is this, Memorandum or work report?
    And the fact that on the Ukrainian side "trolls work" were also felt by the regulars "VO", how many of them have already been here ... and how many have already been "banned"
  12. qwert111
    qwert111 7 July 2016 08: 36
    +1
    Once again I am amazed at the versatility of the ukrop ass, she pushes Europe and immediately lays out a bunch of shit on the European head. Just a high relationship. Only, as if after such relations, gentlemen from Ukraine, certain representatives of Europe did not say to you: "Nicht lard! You will eat salooma!"
  13. Tanya
    Tanya 7 July 2016 08: 42
    +3
    Reading Magazines of operations during the Great Patriotic War, I found such a record. (The answer of our ancestors to the info war)!
  14. SpecialSnab
    SpecialSnab 7 July 2016 09: 24
    +1

    Ukrainians again burn
  15. unsinkable
    unsinkable 7 July 2016 09: 40
    0
    The last paragraph is like a balm for the soul. By your lips, mister author, yes honey should be drunk. I am not against the state of Ukraine (preferably without Donbass). I am against Bandera Ukraine even without Donbass.
  16. Kenneth
    Kenneth 7 July 2016 09: 55
    +1
    Another article about the fact that Ukraine very soon. I would like to ask the author and when. Popcorn from past promises has long been eaten. But in fact all these promises are mostly lies. No one will blame me for the love of independence. But I see that Ukrainians abroad have not diminished, the salaries offered on their sites are quite correlated with ours, even their GDPs seem to grow up this year. As for their propaganda, then our RT campaign is doing the same. Only for our money.
  17. pigkiller
    pigkiller 7 July 2016 10: 20
    +1
    Quote: Kenneth
    But I see that Ukrainians abroad haven’t lessened,

    I noticed that too. For example, in Russia they successfully replace Central Asians, and in Central Europe - Poles and Romanians. Their GDP is growing due to a drop in exports to the EU by 30% and CIS countries by 75% for 2015-2016. (according to THEIR statistics))
  18. Machete
    Machete 7 July 2016 10: 24
    0
    Quote: Kenneth
    Another article about the fact that Ukraine very soon. I would like to ask the author and when. Popcorn from past promises has long been eaten. But in fact all these promises are mostly lies. No one will blame me for the love of independence. But I see that Ukrainians abroad have not diminished, the salaries offered on their sites are quite correlated with ours, even their GDPs seem to grow up this year. As for their propaganda, then our RT campaign is doing the same. Only for our money.

    Whatever they say there, but the Ukrainians are also Slavs, almost Russians, and they, like us, can endure. They suffer. That’s why the country is still holding on.
    Any Western country would have long ago either collapsed or threw off this power.
    And these suffer.
    However, like us at the time.
    The only question is how much longer they will last.
  19. Mestny
    Mestny 7 July 2016 10: 58
    +1
    Quote: Kenneth
    As for their propaganda, then our RT campaign is doing the same. Only for our money.

    A small detail - RT is engaged in propaganda for us, naturally for our own money. You do not want RT to engage in propaganda against us?
    Or maybe you think that only RT is engaged in propaganda, and the rest of the bright democratic elves tell everyone only the truth?
    Amazing.
    1. Kenneth
      Kenneth 7 July 2016 11: 41
      -3
      Especially for those who did not get it. Ukrainians are engaged in propaganda for Western money, if I correctly understood the meaning of the article. And we are for ours. It turns out they put the case smarter than us. As for propaganda, this is a good thing. Although IMHO it would be better if we bought some Western information agency or two and hired a couple of public relations campaigns.
      1. grandfather Mih
        grandfather Mih 7 July 2016 12: 38
        +1
        While they are buying news agencies from us and printing in VO (Economics column, the article on unemployment in Russia today is 7.00). Naglopropaganda in its purest form. I remember the unemployment of 2009, when he himself was unemployed. Then in June there were 15-17 people in the employment service at 9.30. Today at the same time (SZN rn Academic) there were 3 (three) people. Specially traveled. People aged, i.e. the first candidates for dismissal at this painful time. On a civilian were subordinate dismissed age commanders. Beautiful people. And in my opinion, too: any penny in the family budget is good. I haven’t heard anything bad from them.
        1. Kenneth
          Kenneth 7 July 2016 13: 09
          -3
          In the damned bourgeoisie, the role of the taxpayer is much greater than in our kingdom of good. People there can vote so that the leaders do not know what place to scratch. Therefore, it is directly beneficial for us to drip on the brain of their plebs in order to put pressure on their leaders. A drip on the brain is better with the help of purchased media. Good relations with the West provide not only a good night's sleep, but also economic activity in our country, that is, a reduction in unemployment.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 7 July 2016 12: 46
        +1
        Quote: Kenneth
        Especially for those who did not get it. Ukrainians are engaged in propaganda for Western money, if I correctly understood the meaning of the article. And we are for ours. It turns out they put the case smarter than us.

        Not at all. Because western money is loans. Which will have to be returned, with interest.
        1. Kenneth
          Kenneth 7 July 2016 13: 01
          -3
          Ha. To return. In the modern monetary economy, loans do not need to be repaid. We need to serve them as much as possible. Although you can do without it. Write off or extend it. They are trying to become their own. And we like suckers with wet booty return. For two years, one and a half hundred lard returned.
      3. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 7 July 2016 21: 46
        0
        Quote: Kenneth
        Especially for those who did not get it. Ukrainians are engaged in propaganda for Western money, if I correctly understood the meaning of the article. And we are for ours. It turns out they put the case smarter than us.

        Hehehehe ... but in addition to the relatively recently created state propaganda (RT) in Russia there is also a powerful anti-Western, anti-American and anti-liberal propaganda resource created and acting on the money of the West (all kinds of NDE and other semi-state Western funds there). His name is the Russian democratic opposition.
        Suffice it to recall the unforgettable Valeria Ilyinichna, who brilliantly discredited the ideas of decommunization, lustration and "repentance". And she did everything possible so that at the first words about liberal values, her image would pop up in their heads.
        But she was not alone. In difficult times, such titans of discredit always came to her aid: Borovoy, Bonner, Kovalev, Yavlinsky, Nemtsov, etc. It was Yavlinsky and Nemtsov who over and over again did the seemingly impossible - before each important election, they split a single opposition bloc so that its fragments no longer thought of an alliance and began to fiercely fight each other for a piece of the common electorate.
        And the aging veterans were replaced by new cadres: Kasparov, Misha 2%, Yashin, Shats, Katz and Albats, Shenderovich and others. It is they who now bear the heavy burden of discrediting Western values ​​and anti-propaganda of liberalism.

        ICH, unlike scorching on the use of Western money in state anti-Western propaganda of the hoax, it is very difficult to link our opp with the state. smile
        1. Kenneth
          Kenneth 7 July 2016 22: 55
          0
          And I thought that only I noticed it.
  20. Avada Kedavra
    Avada Kedavra 7 July 2016 11: 13
    -4
    It is necessary to send saboteurs so that they destroy the important places of the Koklostan. The end of all propaganda
  21. pigkiller
    pigkiller 7 July 2016 11: 31
    +1
    Quote: Avada Kedavra
    It is necessary to send saboteurs so that they destroy the important places of Koklostan

    And ischo must rob them corovan. Whom do you write in movi?
  22. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 7 July 2016 12: 09
    -1
    And in order to destroy their propaganda, block the Dnieper above Smolensk and redirect its waters to irrigate Central Asia and save the Aral Sea! But there is one catch in this case, you will have to hire the descendants of the great ukrov who dug the Black Sea, because nowhere else are there such specialists in hydraulic structures in the world, so "Salo for heroes" and "Ukraine sala"!
    1. Kenneth
      Kenneth 7 July 2016 12: 12
      -3
      Old Man onion will be offended. The Dnieper flows there too.
  23. xomaNN
    xomaNN 7 July 2016 13: 12
    +1
    In terms of inflating soap bubbles, there are experience with ukro-sofa fighters. The truth is often useless tongue An example of a "bastard helmet - tymchuk", which every day pleases the population with another duck and is interesting only for already completely embroidered dill. bully
  24. Prince of Pensions
    Prince of Pensions 7 July 2016 14: 58
    0
    Quote: Machete
    Quote: Kenneth
    Another article about the fact that Ukraine very soon. I would like to ask the author and when. Popcorn from past promises has long been eaten. But in fact all these promises are mostly lies. No one will blame me for the love of independence. But I see that Ukrainians abroad have not diminished, the salaries offered on their sites are quite correlated with ours, even their GDPs seem to grow up this year. As for their propaganda, then our RT campaign is doing the same. Only for our money.

    Whatever they say there, but the Ukrainians are also Slavs, almost Russians, and they, like us, can endure. They suffer. That’s why the country is still holding on.
    Any Western country would have long ago either collapsed or threw off this power.
    And these suffer.
    However, like us at the time.
    The only question is how much longer they will last.

    Long.
  25. japs
    japs 7 July 2016 20: 08
    +4
    Recently, "trolls" on VO are not so common. His comrades with swirls are enough.
  26. Skifotavr
    Skifotavr 7 July 2016 20: 39
    0
    Someone has already posted this picture here, but I will repeat it as it’s just in topic smile
    1. Skifotavr
      Skifotavr 7 July 2016 20: 48
      +1
      Well, and perhaps more
  27. Lyubopyatov
    Lyubopyatov 7 July 2016 21: 10
    0
    Being a Ukrainian is such a shame and disgrace that Ukrainian warriors cannot stand it: they get drunk, obsykatsya and shoot each other.
  28. Avada Kedavra
    Avada Kedavra 8 July 2016 10: 57
    0
    Quote: Lyubopyatov
    Being a Ukrainian is such a shame and disgrace that Ukrainian warriors cannot stand it: they get drunk, obsykatsya and shoot each other.

    I AGREE
  29. goncharov.62
    goncharov.62 8 July 2016 15: 34
    0
    I know Pi gift go met on virtual fields. And here,
    when the final debriefing will come - what to do with them? My opinion is that I can virtual abstract in natural and let them haw!