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The British and the Poles "will hold back" Russia

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The defense committee of the British parliament calls on the government not only to participate in the policy of expanding anti-Russian sanctions, but also to reconsider the system of military "deterrence". Polish Defense Minister Pan Matserevich spoke in a similar vein, saying that NATO would change its attitude toward Russia and move on to a policy of "containment."




As transmits RIA News", the defense committee of the British parliament called on the government to contribute to the expansion of sanctions against the Russian Federation, as well as to review the system of defense deterrence in the direction of greater efficiency.

A committee report on Russia's influence on the security of the UK was prepared for a long time: several months. According to the agency, the parliamentarians called Michael Fallon (Minister of Defense) and representatives of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs at the session. In addition, in the spring of 2016, the delegation of this committee flew to Moscow, where it met with State Duma colleagues.

The main recommendation of the deputies, stated in the report, concerns the “defense” role of the North Atlantic alliance. According to the speakers, Russia's actions in relation to the Crimea and Ukraine "destroyed the idea of ​​a stable Europe after the Cold War." According to the British deputies, NATO must "restore its defense system, review the deterrence system and re-start a dialogue with the Russian authorities."

But what kind of dialogue, on what basis to conduct it? As emphasized in the document, participants in the upcoming NATO summit in Warsaw should build a dialogue with the Russians “from a position of strength”.

A few words in the document were said about the unexpectedness of Russia's actions for the alliance. In his commentary, committee chairman Julian Lewis noted that the Kremlin’s actions "were a surprise to NATO and Britain."

According to the British document, Moscow “is increasingly increasing activity,” and not only using conventional weapons, but also “using unlawful methods.” These “methods” may lead to the application of Article 5 of the NATO Charter (on collective defense). As indicated by RIA "News", The British committee accused the Russian Federation of" cyber attacks across Europe, the seizure of territories in Ukraine and Georgia. " According to parliamentarians, Moscow seeks to "restore global influence."

Hence the recommendations of the deputies: they advise the British government to give the Russians a harsh answer: "... recognize the scale of the Russian remilitarization and toughly answer it." The report also substantiates the need for a review of the effectiveness of “the existing deterrent policy against military actions involving nuclear, conventional and weapons, as well as attacks from the air, sea and land.”

It got to the point that the committee members called on their own government to discuss in parliament the issue of modernizing the nuclear potential of Great Britain. According to them, to replace the four obsolete nuclear submarines need to build 4 new submarines.

In addition, the committee called on London to contribute to “updating EU sanctions against Russia and to consider expanding them at the expense of a wider group of people among the country's leadership.”

The document also considers the possibility of some cooperation with the Russians. Understandably, very limited.

Parliamentarians allowed the possibility of cooperation between Britain and Russia in those areas where the interests of the two states coincide. For example, cooperation is “very possible” in the fight against terrorist groups like IG or Al-Qaida (which are prohibited in the Russian Federation).

The report's authors sang an old song: recalling that relations with Russia are now at the “lowest level of all time,” members of the committee asked their home government to increase the staff specializing in Russia; in particular, "the staff of military attaches in Moscow must be properly staffed by the end of the year." “Britain needs better-trained specialists to counter the challenges that Russia poses,” says Mr. Lewis.

Download the full report of the Defense Committee (in English) on the British Parliament website.

Polish defense minister Pan Matserevich, who is famous for his special love for Moscow, spoke about the confrontation of Russia and deterrence. This time, he spoke for some reason on behalf of NATO. Probably because the Alliance Summit the other day will be held not just anywhere, but in Warsaw. According to him, NATO will change its attitude towards Russia and will move to a policy of "containment".

Sayings Matserevicha leads RIA News" with reference to the network portal "Onet".

As the Polish Defense Minister said, NATO will change its attitude towards the Kremlin and will move from a policy of “not teasing Russia” to a policy of deterrence. “All NATO countries supported this view. It was just that what we warned materialized ... It turned out that when we talked about Russian imperialism after the collapse of the USSR, we were right, ”explained Matserevich.

He said that during his time as minister he was waiting for an increase in the number of the Polish army to 150 thousand people. 35 thousands of military of this number should be part of the territorial defense forces.

As the Russian agency reminds, Matserevich more than once became the center of attention due to anti-Russian statements. For example, he proposed the North Atlantic Alliance to “scare Russia away from reckless aggressive steps”, declaring Moscow “the greatest threat to the world.”

And one more news related to the upcoming NATO summit.

On the eve of the summit, Secretary General of the Alliance Jens Stoltenberg held a press conference.

“The summit in Warsaw will be held at a time that is decisive for our security in the face of threats and challenges from various sides. In this regard, at our last meeting in Wales, we developed a plan for the largest strengthening of NATO’s collective defense since the Cold War. In Warsaw, I will inform you that NATO has fulfilled the promise. We made the North Atlantic alliance faster and stronger, ”the Secretary General quotes. TASS.

At the NATO summit, “it intends to announce the release of its missile defense system to the initial level of readiness,” Mr. Stoltenberg said. “Our goal is to be able to announce the achievement of operational potential at a meeting in Warsaw, and we are working on it now,” the agency quoted Stoltenberg as saying.

A separate part of the speech of the Secretary General was devoted to Russia. The Alliance is working with the Kremlin to conduct a meeting of the Russia-NATO Council (NRC) after the summit in Warsaw. “We are still open to dialogue with Russia,” Stoltenberg explained. - The NRC can play an important role in terms of dialogue and information sharing. Therefore, NATO is working with the Russian Federation to hold the Council soon after the meeting in Warsaw. ”

In parallel with the NATO summit, we add, on Friday this week, the EU-US mini-summit will be held. This was announced by the representative of the European Commission Alexander Winterstein, transmits "Sight".

The event will take place all in the same Warsaw. The summit will be held by the head of the European Council and the European Commission, Donald Tusk and Jean-Claude Juncker, and the President of the United States, Barack Obama.

According to Winterstein, the mini-summit will be held on the sidelines of the NATO summit. The event will discuss "a whole range of prospects for EU-US cooperation in the field of security."

Recall the summit of NATO member states will be held in Warsaw on July 8-9. Earlier, the North Atlantic Alliance agreed to expand its "defense" activities in Europe, including the deployment of four battalions on the "eastern flank" of NATO. On the very one that Russia is allegedly threatening.

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  1. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 6 July 2016 05: 56
    +12
    Kindergarten ... Stomp legs, wave handles. Less attention to Russophobes, more sense.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 6 July 2016 06: 14
      +19
      Quote: dmi.pris
      dmi.pris (4) RU Today, 05:56 AM New

      Kindergarten ... Stomp legs, wave handles. Less attention to Russophobes, more sense.

      I propose an effective way to combat these figures. In anticipation of the World Cup, impose sanctions on all Russophobic senior fans from NATO, the EU, about two days before the championship and cancel after the 2018 World Cup. And for one and high-ranking officials WADA.
      PSA for one thing to the leaders and officials of countries where Russophobia is being inflated. The British can impose sanctions on all fans, referring to the British Parliament. Let the officials be pouted
      1. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 6 July 2016 06: 34
        +4
        Great idea! Then our "football players" will be champions! Because there will be no one to play with ..
        Quote: Amurets
        Quote: dmi.pris
        dmi.pris (4) RU Today, 05:56 AM New

        Kindergarten ... Stomp legs, wave handles. Less attention to Russophobes, more sense.

        I propose an effective way to combat these figures. In anticipation of the World Cup, impose sanctions on all Russophobic senior fans from NATO, the EU, about two days before the championship and cancel after the 2018 World Cup. And for one and high-ranking officials WADA.
        PSA for one thing to the leaders and officials of countries where Russophobia is being inflated. The British can impose sanctions on all fans, referring to the British Parliament. Let the officials be pouted
        1. sgazeev
          sgazeev 6 July 2016 08: 48
          +2
          And where are our "football players"?
          1. Amurets
            Amurets 6 July 2016 11: 17
            +4
            Quote: sgazeev
            And where are our "football players"?

            Yes, no. Champagne is inflated!
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 6 July 2016 11: 58
              +2
              Matserevich is a classic Polish "Nazi" (such as the time before WWII) - a creature of the special services of Great Britain and the USA.

              The party “Law and Justice”, which won the Polish Sejm elections in 2015, introduced the composition of the new government. At the post of Minister of Defense became deputy. chairman Party 67-year-old Anthony Matserevich.
              A historian by training, he graduated from the Warsaw University in 1971. There Matserevich began his opposition. activity. He stood at the origins of the creation of committees for the protection of workers and public defense. After the introduction of the military. provisions were part of strikes. Committees at the Gdansk Shipyard. He was detained several times.
              After Poland gained independence, Matserevich held a number of responses. posts: was minister of ext. affairs (VD), deputy. Minister of Defense, led the military counterintelligence service. The activities of Matserevich on these answers. posts and became the reason for determining him as an ambiguous polit. figures.
              As the Minister of Internal Affairs in the government of Jan Olszewski from 1991 to 1992, he created the so-called. Matserevich’s list, cat. consisted of the names of politicians, cooperation. with the special services of the Polish HP and the USSR. Among them were members of the government, deputies, senators, and even Walesa and Khzhanovsky, who at that time held the posts of president and marshal of the Sejm. This led to watered. crisis and brought closer the resignation of the government of Jan Olszewski.
              Later, as a deputy. Minister of Defense in the office of Yaroslav Kaczynski, ruined military information. service and published the so-called "Matserevich's report" on military intelligence and counterintelligence, which contained the unreliability of certain facts and was recognized as threatening the interests of the nat. security because as part of the published information constituted state secrets. Matserevich deprived the Polish military in Afghanistan and Iraq of the protection of counterintelligence, divulged the composition, means and methods of work of the Polish secret services. After this report (betrayal), Minister of Defense R. Sikorsky - chief of Matserevich - insisted on his removal. But then Prime Minister Kaczynski refused, and Sikorsky himself was forced to resign.
              Matserevich was led by parliament. a team to find out the causes of the Smolensk disaster. In his opinion, "the disaster in Smolensk was planned by the Russian special services to restore influence on the former territory of the empire and agreed with Germany."
              To confirm this manipulative "hypothesis," Matserevich deliberately assembled a group of experts absolutely incompetent in aviation, who later was rejected by the prosecutor's office. Therefore, in Poland, the view is expressed that the catastrophe in Smolensk was the work of the MOST “Polish” special services.
              See details - //www.belvpo.com/en/60383.html
              Matserevich takes a purely anti-Russian position, and he can undoubtedly be considered a "pro-American hawks."
              The results of the NATO summit in Poland are easy to predict.
              1. Orionvit
                Orionvit 6 July 2016 22: 45
                +1
                deputy chairman Party 67-year-old Anthony Matserevich.
                A historian by training, he graduated from the Warsaw University in 1971
                Something bad this "historian" knows history. It is immediately obvious that he was a poor student, since he went into politics. How is it in politics? You don't know how to do anything from curvature, you didn't become an engineer out of stupidity, you didn't become a philosopher or a poet out of stupidity. Where to go? Of course, in politics. For units like Putin or Lavrov, there are thousands of such Matsarevichs who can only cowardly puff up under the wing of the owner. Interestingly, he will not pile in his pants if Putin just looks him in the eye. And Matsarevich, is that from the word matzo?
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      2. Andrey K
        Andrey K 6 July 2016 07: 34
        +13
        There is nothing new in the fact that the Naglo-Saxons and "Euro-bugs" are in the first ranks of the bullying ...
        It's just that the popular saying is once again confirmed - "There is no mind - consider it, a cripple" ...
        The British on the eve of WWII already supported the Poles. As a result, when Hitler swallowed these knights, the British did not even squeak. From the territory of their island, they did not stick their nose out. History teaches nothing ... request
        ... He said that during his time as minister he expects an increase in the size of the Polish army to 150 thousand people ...

        On this occasion, interesting mathematics is obtained:
        according to forecasts, by the end of 2016, the population of Poland will be 38. And do not tear yourself up - 630 559 military contain. They were moaning from a smaller number of aircraft ... what
        1. Alexey Lobanov
          Alexey Lobanov 6 July 2016 08: 13
          +4
          Quote: Andrey K
          according to forecasts, by the end of 2016, the population of Poland will be 38. And do not tear yourself up - 630 559 military contain.

          The great "apple" power can afford and not that! :)
      3. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 6 July 2016 07: 37
        +9
        Quote: Amurets
        . Englishmen can introduce sanctions for all fans, referring to the British Parliament.

        “Updating EU sanctions against Russia and consider expanding them at the expense of a wider group of people among the country's leadership”

        Sanctions on leadership? Bills, trips, etc? Well, let them introduce it, it’s neither hot nor cold, the official should be independent about the external situation. yes
      4. Amnestied
        Amnestied 6 July 2016 12: 14
        +2

        Something like this!
      5. Al1977
        Al1977 6 July 2016 16: 57
        +1
        Quote: Amurets
        I propose an effective way to combat these figures. In anticipation of the World Cup, impose sanctions on all Russophobic senior fans from NATO, the EU, about two days before the championship and cancel after the 2018 World Cup. And for one and high-ranking officials WADA.
        PSA for one thing to the leaders and officials of countries where Russophobia is being inflated. The British can impose sanctions on all fans, referring to the British Parliament. Let the officials be pouted

        These are half measures. Let them come .. and then, from the stadium, under escort to Siberia !!!
    2. Delink
      Delink 6 July 2016 06: 19
      0
      Flags in their hands with cookies and lollipop in one place, can be distracted from Russophobia.
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    4. siberalt
      siberalt 6 July 2016 07: 35
      +2
      NATO is pushing ahead. And as soon as they meet with resistance, they immediately start talking about negotiations with Russia. Yes, how many times "talked", but what's the point? Only concessions from Russia.
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 6 July 2016 23: 06
        0
        In his comment, committee chairman Julian Lewis noted that the Kremlin’s actions “came as a surprise to NATO and the UK.”
        Yes, wait, you still do not know all the surprises.
        the British committee accused the Russian Federation of "cyber attacks throughout Europe, the seizure of territories in Ukraine and Georgia"
        Well, Georgia is only 200 years old, but Ukraine is, by definition, the territory of Russia. Lviv and next to it, I do not think it is Poland. let them take and dissolve themselves what they created.
        It got to the point that the committee members called on their own government to discuss in parliament the issue of modernizing the nuclear potential of Great Britain. According to them, to replace the four obsolete nuclear submarines need to build 4 new submarines.
        Can they? Old specialists retire, but there are no new ones. There is no one to work at nuclear power plants in the UK. Reaping the benefits of liberal education. And stupid immigrants, blacks with Arabs, they are not there to help. Just wait, and in ten years, not like new submarines, but old ones you can’t get out to sea.
        As the Polish Defense Minister said, NATO will change its attitude towards the Kremlin and will move from a policy of “not teasing Russia” to a policy of deterrence. “All NATO countries supported this view. It was just that what we warned materialized ... It turned out that when we talked about Russian imperialism after the collapse of the USSR, we were right, ”explained Matserevich.
        How duplicate these are. In 1990, mom swore that NATO would not go to the countries of the former Warsaw Pact, and so what? How can they be trusted at all? So Russia, go ahead. And do not pay attention to anyone, just go about your business.
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  2. 1536
    1536 6 July 2016 06: 10
    +27
    We are all indignant, worried, trying to reach the common sense of the Poles (?!) and the British. What for? It is necessary to quietly, without imposing, make sure that both of them feel all the negativity from the "policy of containment". At one fine moment, they suddenly felt, but they could not do anything. Well, the first thing you can do is exclude Polish and English businesses from your business plans. All the same they will be deceived or let down. A Pole comes to work in Moscow (there are a lot of them sheathed here), and they tell him: "Sorry, Grzegosh, but we don't need you and your business. Come on, goodbye!" Also with the British. It is necessary to remove their subversive institutions under the guise of "English first", and send the "teachers" home.
    That's when the British and Poles feel some trouble in their ass from a grenade, looking at the ring in the hand of Russia, then you can talk to them. Themselves will come running.
    1. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 6 July 2016 06: 38
      +4
      This question is not for business, although there are questions for him in the light of patriotism. There is a question for political leadership-to prohibit working with Gaster of all stripes, especially from the West. After all, the Turks were temporarily shut off oxygen.
      Quote: 1536
      We are all indignant, worried, trying to reach the common sense of the Poles (?!) and the British. What for? It is necessary to quietly, without imposing, make sure that both of them feel all the negativity from the "policy of containment". At one fine moment, they suddenly felt, but they could not do anything. Well, the first thing you can do is exclude Polish and English businesses from your business plans. All the same they will be deceived or let down. A Pole comes to work in Moscow (there are a lot of them sheathed here), and they tell him: "Sorry, Grzegosh, but we don't need you and your business. Come on, goodbye!" Also with the British. It is necessary to remove their subversive institutions under the guise of "English first", and send the "teachers" home.
      That's when the British and Poles feel some trouble in their ass from a grenade, looking at the ring in the hand of Russia, then you can talk to them. Themselves will come running.
    2. moskowit
      moskowit 6 July 2016 06: 56
      +14
      It is possible, and even needs such a scenario. But he will achieve the goal only when our business becomes patriotic, which, in principle, is impossible. Only the adoption of a series of laws at the political level on the rejection of Russophobia and the ban on doing business with firms and organizations supporting the anti-Russian policy of the West. can straighten the position. And for this, it is first necessary to ban the massive export of capital and recommend to our pseudo-elite everything to return to their homeland, starting from their children and ending with the last cent that strengthens the economy of our enemies.
      Remember how Anikita Demidov, in the film of the same name, taught English traders when he sold them iron ... This is how our "merchants" need ...
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    4. siberalt
      siberalt 6 July 2016 07: 38
      +6
      Let's see what happens between Poland and Ukraine. As soon as the outskirts finally lies down, the Poles on the border will shoot crowds of Ukrainian refugees. It all goes to that.
      1. Alexey Lobanov
        Alexey Lobanov 6 July 2016 08: 19
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        Let's see what happens between Poland and Ukraine. As soon as the outskirts finally lies down, the Poles on the border will shoot crowds of Ukrainian refugees. It all goes to that.

        The main thing is that ours do not "fit" into this mess.
        1. jjj
          jjj 6 July 2016 09: 02
          +3
          Quote: Alexey Lobanov
          The main thing is that ours do not "fit" into this mess.

          Well, you can show it on TV
        2. Orionvit
          Orionvit 6 July 2016 23: 19
          +1
          The main thing is that ours do not "fit" into this mess.
          Why shoot? Just filter, Ukrainians back to Ukraine, they supported almost all the Maidan, and the rest, ask what he did during the Nazi occupation? What did you do? I think that the relevant services of the Russian Federation have the necessary information about each resident who is independent. Moreover, here, and among ethnic Russian freaks enough.
    5. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 6 July 2016 09: 22
      0
      "The same with the British. It is necessary to remove their subversive establishments under the guise of" English first ", and
      "teachers" to send home "/////

      Well? And who will you punish? - Themselves. Businessmen, scientists, engineers will not
      know English, which is the only international language. And they will not be able to communicate with anyone in the world, to sell their products.
      Russia will quickly go "into the technological Middle Ages"
      1. Ramzai
        Ramzai 6 July 2016 09: 56
        +9
        Do not make me laugh. At English First, they teach anything but English. I went there. At first WOW, everyone speaks English, like immersion in the environment. And then the same school-like approach with memorization. In general, just a stupid waste of money for those who want to learn English.
        I asked myself a question: "Why the devil are English-speaking" teachers - native speakers "going to the Russian outback to teach Russian English?"
      2. Amurets
        Amurets 6 July 2016 12: 52
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh

        Well? And who will you punish? - Themselves. Businessmen, scientists, engineers will not
        know English, which is the only international language. And they will not be able to communicate with anyone in the world, to sell their products.
        Russia will quickly go "into the technological Middle Ages"

        Still agree that technical English and spoken English are not the same thing? We spoke Russian, solved a technical problem. A nearby girl, a TB trainee, did not understand anything. Then I had to translate into Russian for two hours, which For businessmen and it may be suitable, but for scientists, engineers "English fest" gives only general concepts. I know, object that without the basics, you cannot master the depths. The technical slang of English is based on little English, rather it is Campilation of several languages.
    6. K-50
      K-50 6 July 2016 14: 38
      +1
      Quote: 1536
      We need to remove their subversive establishments under the guise of "English first"

      Let them learn Russian themselves, come in handy! laughing
    7. Al1977
      Al1977 6 July 2016 17: 01
      0
      Quote: 1536
      At one point, they suddenly felt, but could not do anything. Well, the first thing you can do is to exclude Polish and English business from your business plans.

      I don’t even know ... who will clean the streets and drive buses ...
      No .. without the British and the Pole in any way ...
  3. Wolka
    Wolka 6 July 2016 06: 13
    +2
    if not childish psychosis, then not otherwise another Russophobic epiprotex in Poland and England, some kind of epidemic ...
    1. nadezhiva
      nadezhiva 6 July 2016 19: 46
      0
      This is just the beginning of psychosis. As it were, the president disappeared here again, i.e. has not been shown to the media since July 1. Another 2-3 days and they will again begin to beat in convulsions. Apparently, the agenda of the summit will be broken to hell. NATO will discuss only one thing: "Where did they hide Putin?"
  4. Delink
    Delink 6 July 2016 06: 14
    +4
    “The Warsaw Summit will be held at a time that is decisive for our security amid threats and challenges from different angles. In this regard, at our last meeting in Wales, we developed a plan for the largest increase in NATO's collective defense since the Cold War. In Warsaw, I will inform that NATO has fulfilled its promise. We have made the North Atlantic Alliance faster and stronger, ”TASS Secretary General quotes.


    If they have become so strong, then I only welcome! And this is in peacetime))))
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 6 July 2016 07: 29
      0
      Quote: Delink

      If they have become so strong, then I only welcome! And this is in peacetime))))


      laughing Oh my bastard! Yes, it's just amazing, did they have anything to go after that? Maybe it’s true that NATO is a paper tiger?
    2. ViktorG
      ViktorG 6 July 2016 12: 13
      +1
      http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=98e_1435241192&comments=1

      http://latestnewsresource.com/ru/news/pod-ulan-ude-iz-za-neraskryvshegosja-paras

      hjuta-upala-boevaja-mashina-desanta

      hi
  5. Holsten
    Holsten 6 July 2016 06: 17
    +9
    What a disappointment for the Poles: Russia is turning east, south, north, and Poland remains on the shores of the Baltic Lake. It remains to try to shout louder so that they do not forget and write off. Now Poland takes on the role of the GREAT GEOPOLITICAL horror of the Kremlin - after Ukraine, the place has already been vacated.
    1. Alexey Lobanov
      Alexey Lobanov 6 July 2016 08: 21
      +3
      Quote: Holsten
      Now Poland takes on the role of the GREAT GEOPOLITICAL horror of the Kremlin - after Ukraine, the place has already been vacated.

      The ancient Poles dug the Baltic Sea, by analogy with the "great" and the Black ... :)
      1. jjj
        jjj 6 July 2016 09: 03
        +2
        Quote: Alexey Lobanov
        The ancient Poles dug the Baltic Sea, by analogy with the "great" and the Black ... :)

        And the earth was poured in the Sudetenland
  6. viktor.
    viktor. 6 July 2016 06: 20
    +8
    Quote: 1536
    We are all indignant, worried, trying to reach the common sense of the Poles (?!) and the British. What for? It is necessary to quietly, without imposing, make sure that both of them feel all the negativity from the "policy of containment". At one fine moment, they suddenly felt, but they could not do anything. Well, the first thing you can do is exclude Polish and English businesses from your business plans. All the same they will be deceived or let down. A Pole comes to work in Moscow (there are a lot of them sheathed here), and they tell him: "Sorry, Grzegosh, but we don't need you and your business. Come on, goodbye!" Also with the British. It is necessary to remove their subversive institutions under the guise of "English first", and send the "teachers" home.
    That's when the British and Poles feel some trouble in their ass from a grenade, looking at the ring in the hand of Russia, then you can talk to them. Themselves will come running.

    you are definitely right!
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 6 July 2016 07: 28
      +5
      Quote: anna1980
      Quote: 1536
      We are all indignant, worried, trying to reach the common sense of the Poles (?!) and the British. What for? It is necessary to quietly, without imposing, make sure that both of them feel all the negativity from the "policy of containment". At one fine moment, they suddenly felt, but they could not do anything. Well, the first thing you can do is exclude Polish and English businesses from your business plans. All the same they will be deceived or let down. A Pole comes to work in Moscow (there are a lot of them sheathed here), and they tell him: "Sorry, Grzegosh, but we don't need you and your business. Come on, goodbye!" Also with the British. It is necessary to remove their subversive institutions under the guise of "English first", and send the "teachers" home.
      That's when the British and Poles feel some trouble in their ass from a grenade, looking at the ring in the hand of Russia, then you can talk to them. Themselves will come running.

      you are definitely right!

      Exactly! So it is! I agree three times!
      Humpbacked --- the grave will fix. They want to remake our country for ourselves --- that's what. What would they --- like vampires, and our people --- like victims of these vampires. Otherwise, they cannot and will not want. Drive you up! !!!
  7. knn54
    knn54 6 July 2016 06: 27
    +11
    -English and Poles "keep" Russia.
    Well, the UK cannot do without "cannon fodder". In 1939. the British and French "helped" Poland ...
  8. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 6 July 2016 06: 28
    +1
    I am not at all surprised by the little white insects that itch in the groin. They and their plane banged if only it were to the evil of Russia and once again remind of themselves.
  9. Sars
    Sars 6 July 2016 06: 46
    +8
    These guys have already twice set Germany against Russia.
    1. sgazeev
      sgazeev 6 July 2016 09: 09
      +6
      Quote: SarS
      These guys have already twice set Germany against Russia.

      The British were also not in a hurry to help the "ally", although they promised Warsaw that if Hitler attacked Poland, they would help almost immediately with the help of their Air Force and Navy. By mid-October, two corps of British troops took up positions on the border of France with Belgium.

      3-4 October French troops pulled over their borders. 16-th their previous positions and took the German troops. The “performance” was completed, Poland was crushed, the road to the USSR was finally open, Paris and London were saved, the “ally” was helped as much as they could.

      18 October, the Germans declared their "losses" on the Western Front: 196 killed, 356 wounded, 144 missing.

      France and England abandoned their “ally” Poland, the Polish army led an unequal struggle for several weeks, abandoned by its command (the Polish elite almost immediately ran into a run) and the Western allies. 21 November 1939, the French government created an "entertainment service" in the army, which was required to organize the entertainment of soldiers at the front.

      This "performance" has one explanation - the British and French political elite tried their best to push Germany and the USSR together. For this, it was not a pity for “junior partners,” such as democratic states - Austria, Czechoslovakia, and Poland.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 6 July 2016 09: 53
        +1
        "France and England abandoned their" ally "" ////

        It's true. Therefore, now the Poles require constant
        bases, with a constant contingent of British and Americans
        on their territory. As a guarantee that they will not be thrown.
        1. guzik007
          guzik007 6 July 2016 12: 40
          +1
          It's true. Therefore, now the Poles require constant
          bases, with a constant contingent of British and Americans
          on their territory. As a guarantee that they will not be thrown.
          ---------------------------------------------------------
          Throw, be sure to throw. How was thrown in the 39th. The Poles have a short memory, and the history of them, the campaign, in the school "parallel" is taught.
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  10. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 6 July 2016 06: 47
    +1
    Everything is fine. The Poles, and even the Baltic states at the forefront, and all the rest in the rear - found fools (and they didn’t hide).
  11. avva2012
    avva2012 6 July 2016 06: 47
    0
    Let GB upgrade their nuclear weapons, how will this help them? If, what, just rinse off. It’s not worth talking about Poland.
  12. ProtectRusOrDie
    ProtectRusOrDie 6 July 2016 06: 54
    +4
    This is what I'm thinking about (personal opinion) - the project of the Transatlantic Partnership (TTIP), read the slavery of Europe - Germany is quietly draining, which the country of Peodosia is extremely unhappy with. In terms of increasing European purchases of Peodos weapons, the picture is also far from the desired one (Peodos). However, a certain amount of "controlled opposition" (read ISIS) is already ready to start a fire nightmare in European cities (I think no one has any doubts about it - and the previous terrorist attacks are more like a mixture of warning and a test of the pen).

    I’m thinking about this - but will the Europeans agree to a certain "exacerbation of relations" (with us estestiously) - in order to throw a bone to the Peodos and gain some time (right before the elections - it is clear who)?

    And what exactly will they decide to "aggravate"?
  13. Nix1986
    Nix1986 6 July 2016 06: 58
    +5
    How many times I learn about the machinations of England, how many times I regret the murder of Paul 1, how the wheel of history could spin if there weren’t an invasion of Napoleon, if we supported him in the blockade of England ... Yes, a lot of things would not be bad for us.
  14. parusnik
    parusnik 6 July 2016 07: 01
    +2
    pan Matserevich spoke in a similar vein, saying that NATO would change its attitude towards Russia and move on to a “containment” policy.... "Restraints" ... enough?
  15. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 6 July 2016 07: 03
    +8
    Well, just some sort of historical amnesia among Western politicians and guides.
    Well, nothing their history teaches, or, most likely, they do not want to learn from historical examples.
  16. Stinger
    Stinger 6 July 2016 07: 06
    +2
    Get drunk on whiskey at this "summit" and rashly say too much. The dog barks, the wind carries. The Poles are still striving to become target number 1. They think that you can bite Russia and hide behind NATO's back. Will not work. The first will be sent to these homebrew heroes with a grenade in their hands under the tank. NATO was created for this. I pulled the thread from across the ocean and wait for what happens.
    1. Forever so
      Forever so 6 July 2016 13: 19
      0
      Exactly)) Whiskey will get drunk and decide to fly to Smolensk, and this is the end of the fairy tale))
  17. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 July 2016 07: 13
    +1
    a dialogue should be built with the Russians “from a position of strength”.

    But at the same time, cooperation is beneficial where. The normal, in their opinion, Anglo-Saxon position, which they have been using since the time of colonization. Correctly wrote above that the time has come for us to respond more stringently to their threats and unceasing chatter.
  18. Viktor fm
    Viktor fm 6 July 2016 07: 29
    0
    The Polish mongrel is still in the kennel, and the English stray barks according to the old habit.
  19. rf xnumx
    rf xnumx 6 July 2016 07: 31
    +4
    Polish defense minister, pan Matserevich, spoke in a similar vein, saying that NATO would change its attitude towards Russia and move to a policy of “containment”.
    How tired already this pan
  20. Andrey160479
    Andrey160479 6 July 2016 07: 40
    0
    Damaging in one word. So I would like Greatness, but can not do it. That hysteria from powerlessness. The misters envy us.
  21. cheburator
    cheburator 6 July 2016 08: 00
    0
    It is necessary to answer adequately overseas, only then these bent lackeys shut up. And only then will their owners be forced to communicate with Russia at least "on equal terms." soldier
  22. qwert111
    qwert111 6 July 2016 08: 05
    +6
    Of course, all this is alarming, but I think as usual everything will end for Europe like this:

    "A Russian, a Frenchman and an Englishman got to an uninhabited island. They are starving - they have no strength. The Englishman cuts off his hand, they fry it and eat it all together."
    After some time, the Frenchman sacrifices his leg.
    It was the turn of the Russian.
    His comrades in misfortune look at him inquiringly with hungry eyes. Rusky takes out a member: - Well. men, for yogurt and sleep "
  23. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 6 July 2016 08: 15
    +1
    The human scum in the person of the Judean women and the little shaves cast their cowardly shrill voices? Why's that?
    And for a long time they didn’t get along the impudent lying face?
  24. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 6 July 2016 08: 21
    0
    Learn how to restrain diarrhea, well, just in case request
  25. 1536
    1536 6 July 2016 08: 21
    +1
    Quote: Nix1986
    How many times I learn about the machinations of England, how many times I regret the murder of Paul 1, how the wheel of history could spin if there weren’t an invasion of Napoleon, if we supported him in the blockade of England ... Yes, a lot of things would not be bad for us.


    You will remember Russian folk tales about animals. The wolf and the fox never make friends with the bear. And the French in commercialism, cowardice and inconstancy, the British can still surpass. But the Germans have united and now live in a single state only because they oppose Russia and our people.
  26. Riv
    Riv 6 July 2016 08: 21
    0
    "The haberdasher and the cardinal are power!"
  27. Antiprogressor
    Antiprogressor 6 July 2016 08: 22
    0
    If only the Poles would join an adult: at least to the Lithuanians, even to the Germans, even to the British. If only Muscovites threaten. True, Moscow is closer to Warsaw, and to London, than to me. We have a border with Canada and America ...
  28. cap
    cap 6 July 2016 08: 24
    +2
    Polish ambitions, they are unfulfilled dreams.
  29. azer
    azer 6 July 2016 08: 31
    +1
    You know what I can’t understand. There was a clear message that the first ... attack would be on the territory where NATO air defense is located. And in this row the Baltic states may because of this they shout loudly ???
  30. shultz21070
    shultz21070 6 July 2016 08: 36
    +1
    haberdashery and cardinal!
  31. grandfather Mih
    grandfather Mih 6 July 2016 08: 41
    0
    I read all the comments. For me a nice team. England constantly craps and dirty in every way precisely Russia. To organize a campaign of Europe to the east, well, for Germany, first Poland. Ukrainians as a nation were written off by the Nuland cookies (what did the Indians finish after the basket of cookies?), And the life of Europe-afterf.k.
  32. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 6 July 2016 08: 55
    +3
    Okay, but it’s already beginning to get boring to read the retelling of the statements of our enemies. Personally, they (the enemies) have already fully convinced me that danger is hanging over Russia. Therefore, I read articles about enemy intrigues obliquely. But, like many, I ask myself, what should we do? All experts and analysts, with the exception of traitors, answer in unison - to develop the economy. But our government, headed by VVP, propose to do this "with a slow step, timid zigzag", otherwise it is impossible, they say, the question arises, why not? They answer because inflation will come from rapid growth. But is inflation really some inevitable physical law of nature, like the law of gravitation? Inflation is a product of human hands, so why not give it a hand? The question arises, will we make it in time?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 6 July 2016 09: 49
      +4
      "They answer because fast growth will lead to inflation." ////

      From the rapid growth of the economy does not occur inflation.
      The Russian government has little money, so some just offer
      print rubles. This will cause inflation.

      And economic growth occurs when there are quality goods for sale.
      Think of what to produce for export, sell, there will be growth without inflation.
      1. mikh-korsakov
        mikh-korsakov 6 July 2016 11: 47
        +2
        If you continue to pretend to be white and fluffy and print money, then, yes, inflation will occur. But there are options. Firstly, you can print money and issue loans only for specific projects, they will plunder and send to offshores, you say, yes they will try, but, firstly, we have no kind of competition, and no kind of cobbled together according to the Western pattern, a press free from prejudices when writing compromising evidence, and secondly, we have an abundance of competent authorities to whom just shout "Fas!" Secondly, the liberal public tells us that with the sanctions, foreign investments flowed out of Russia. But if so, then why be ashamed. We are introducing currency control, that is, we issue currency in our hands only when traveling abroad, but little by little. Sets a firm dollar rate. We prohibit the uncontrolled entry of currency. Indicatively we give a hand to currency speculators. And now the dollar rate is 25 rubles apiece. Thirdly, the Russian market is quite capacious, and there is no need to wring your hands, that in the west the panties are more lacy, and TVs show better, this can be quickly adjusted, if the experts have not yet wondered. Yours faithfully!
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  33. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 6 July 2016 09: 24
    +1
    Sniffed again. laughing Poland, with special lust, has always spread under Britain. And those .. "Hyena of Eastern Europe". British Prime Minister Winston Churchill.
    And more.
    “Great powers always
    behaved like gangsters
    and the small ones are just like ... ducks. ”
    Stanley Kubrick, American filmmaker
  34. nrex
    nrex 6 July 2016 09: 50
    +1
    - You with vaseline or without?
    - With petroleum jelly .....
    - VAZELIN, dear, come in ...
  35. weksha50
    weksha50 6 July 2016 10: 08
    +1
    "We are still open for dialogue with Russia- explained Stoltenberg. - The NRC can play an important role in terms of dialogue and information sharing. therefore NATO works with Russia to host the Council shortly after meeting in Warsaw"...

    Yeah ... As far as I understand, after the adoption of some resolutions at the summit (naturally, veiledly anti-Russian), the dialogue with Russia will consist in talking with her from a position of strength ...

    Well, the fact that the NATO bloc from supposedly defensive becomes (and has already become) aggressive and offensive, it has long been clear ... And the main edge of its actions is directed precisely against Russia, because there are no more countries and forces that are capable and have political , military and spiritual strength to resist this block ...

    I don’t mention China, it’s not so simple there, although it allegedly conflicts with the USA ...
    1. Machete
      Machete 6 July 2016 10: 21
      0
      From what position of power can they talk to us?
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 6 July 2016 13: 04
      +1
      Quote: weksha50
      And the main edge of his actions is directed precisely against Russia, because there are no more countries and forces capable and having political, military and spiritual strength to withstand this bloc ...

      How not? And the Vatican? It has all three components. It was not for nothing that it organized the Crusades "For the Faith, against the heretics" when in 1204 the crusaders plundered Constantinople and the Crusades for the "Holy Sepulcher". That is against the Vatican and NATO was created.
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 6 July 2016 15: 12
        0
        Quote: Amurets
        It is against the Vatican that NATO was created.


        Nikolay! Amers and NATO do not understand Russian humor and irony ...
  36. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 6 July 2016 10: 15
    +1
    Quote: ProtectRusOrDie
    I’m thinking about this - but will the Europeans agree to a certain "exacerbation of relations" (with us estestiously) - in order to throw a bone to the Peodos and gain some time (right before the elections - it is clear who)?

    DO NOT GO !!! Bluff is valid only for poker, all cards are on the table. Even on an ace pair, it's silly to go to ALLIN ...
  37. Machete
    Machete 6 July 2016 10: 17
    +1
    The Poles are noble warriors.
    Naparu with the Saxons.
    That says it all.
    1. SlavaP
      SlavaP 7 July 2016 23: 41
      0
      Well, don't tell me - their Thunder special forces are all right with their brains and fighting spirit.
  38. aszzz888
    aszzz888 6 July 2016 10: 47
    +1
    "Destroyed the idea of ​​a stable Europe after the Cold War."

    AngosSaktsy completely brutalized! angry NATO pulled its troops to our borders, and we are to blame!
    Although there is nothing new in these snotty remarks. wassat
  39. Nix1986
    Nix1986 6 July 2016 11: 28
    0
    Quote: 1536
    Quote: Nix1986
    How many times I learn about the machinations of England, how many times I regret the murder of Paul 1, how the wheel of history could spin if there weren’t an invasion of Napoleon, if we supported him in the blockade of England ... Yes, a lot of things would not be bad for us.


    You will remember Russian folk tales about animals. The wolf and the fox never make friends with the bear. And the French in commercialism, cowardice and inconstancy, the British can still surpass. But the Germans have united and now live in a single state only because they oppose Russia and our people.

    In my opinion, you have paranoia about the threat of Russia, are there no Tesla soldiers outside the window, or are Kirov airships not bombing your summer cottage? I was also pleased that the main motive for the reunification of Germany was the threat to Russia. Are we dinosaurs too ?! Less Ren-TV watch. Just to hit budgets and stuff pockets, you need some kind of a terrible enemy, how can you not come up with hordes of wild Russian barbarians from the north.
  40. Tolik_74
    Tolik_74 6 July 2016 11: 52
    +2
    As emphasized in the document, participants in the upcoming NATO summit in Warsaw should build a dialogue with the Russians "from a position of strength."
    Psheks will have unsold grilled apples as arguments tongue
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  42. alpamys
    alpamys 6 July 2016 13: 02
    +1
    The British and the Poles "will hold back" Russia


    laughing history repeats itself, the Poles in the 39th, too, looking at Germany thought that the British and French would harness for them in case of war, and these "friends" threw them through hyu.
  43. Forever so
    Forever so 6 July 2016 13: 13
    0
    Yeah, just like a joke. Peredasty again gather at the Polish bucket to agree to stick together. Well, it doesn’t reach the freaks, Russia is not interested in homosexual relations. This is the prerogative of the Anglo-Saxon world. In general, the assholes are again bulling. Ugh !!! God forgive me for the sin of profanity, I could not restrain myself !!!
  44. Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 6 July 2016 14: 02
    +1
    Interesting ... The security of the NATO summit will be ensured by the Israeli HERMES-900, which arrived at the Minsk-Mazovetskiy airbase, near Warsaw, together with the IDF personnel, as reported by min. defense of Poland. That's it, every sneeze will be transmitted online to the servers of AMAN (military intelligence) good The Poles want to buy four pieces, choose between him and the American MQ-9 Reaper ...
  45. NordUral
    NordUral 6 July 2016 14: 14
    0
    Poles! Remember the 2nd World War. And how the Britons "supported" you.
  46. K-50
    K-50 6 July 2016 14: 32
    +1
    The Defense Committee of the British Parliament calls on the government not only to participate in the policy of expanding anti-Russian sanctions, but also to revise the system of military “containment”. Polish defense minister pan Matserevich spoke in a similar vein, saying that NATO will change its attitude towards Russia and move to a policy of “containment”

    Strange! what
    This is what then they were doing all the time if not sanctions? Is it more talkative? And is it all two and a half years, first of all, the events of Urkain? belay laughing
    Morons b ... (s) S. Lavrov.
    good laughing
  47. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 6 July 2016 14: 42
    +1
    All that Psheks and Angles can hold back is an involuntary release of feces.
    In your pants. And not all. Only those who have time to surrender in time.
  48. Lyubopyatov
    Lyubopyatov 6 July 2016 16: 34
    +2
    The Germans and Russians will keep the fucking Polish in check. The coming war will redraw not only the borders of the Middle East. Poland, too, is not well. Or maybe he’ll say hello - this is how to look: if you keep in mind the amputation of unfulfilled Polish illusions.
    The stability of Europe suffered from the lack of direct contact between Germany and Russia - territorially (so it seems to me, although many will argue with this). Since the Polish state has proved its ingratitude and Russophobia, the following ups and downs are likely to lead, at least, from cutting off the Vislina mouth from the Commonwealth. The right bank along the Bialystok-Shchitno-Malbork line should move to Russia, and from the left bank, from Tchev to Stettin, the entire territory will return to the status of the German "Danzig corridor". An independent German state (independent, unlike Hitler, from the Anglo-Saxon bankers) will be friendly to Russia, and the Polish swagger and spiteful critic will not only not get the shores of the "second sea" ("one can get to one"), but will also lose the Baltic coast.
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 7 July 2016 13: 33
      0
      Yes, they, the Poles, already had a period of Lesser Poland (after baptism). Krakow da Lodz with surroundings. Apparently, they want to go back to antiquity. They are less likely to play the Polish rake, but more powerful, and with such a solid frequency. Once every 100-150 years, but on the spot.
  49. wadulya
    wadulya 6 July 2016 16: 34
    +1
    the restraint after the 45th hurt ceased to see, well, well.
  50. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 6 July 2016 18: 12
    0
    The West is in crisis and in urgent need of its own resources. It needs it so desperately that “friends and partners” are quite ready to take the risk in order to prolong the existence of existing regimes.