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Ankara can open the base "Incirlik" for Russian videoconferencing

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Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt авavusoglu did not rule out that Ankara would allow Russia to use the Incirlik air base for operations against the Islamic State, reports RIA News.


Ankara can open the base "Incirlik" for Russian videoconferencing


“We will cooperate with all who oppose the IS. We are engaged in this struggle from the very beginning, and we have opened the Incirlik base for those who want to actively participate in it. Why can't we cooperate in the same way with Russia? IG is an enemy for all of us, and we need to fight it. This is of utmost importance for the implementation of this mechanism and the prevention of any unwanted incidents. On this topic, we agreed with Sergey Lavrov ",
said Cavusoglu.

Commenting on the statement of the head of Turkish diplomacy, Konstantin Sivkov, Doctor of Military Sciences, President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, said: “This is a huge breakthrough in Russian-Turkish relations, this is a steep, phenomenal turn of Turkey towards Russia, because with this step they actually break off relations with the United States and cause serious a blow to the unity of NATO. Russian planes in Incirlik are a colossal geopolitical victory for Russia. ”

According to him, “Incirlik airbase is NATO, and if Russian planes are based there and act together with the Turks, this means that Turkey relies on Russia.”
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AFP 2016 / Tobias Schwarz
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  1. kebeskin
    kebeskin 4 July 2016 13: 27
    +26
    Yes, your base is not needed for nothing. So we know that one bad guy will betray (substitute) us at the first danger.
    1. Dimontius
      Dimontius 4 July 2016 13: 29
      +46
      If this fiction happens, then Senators Obama will be fried at the stake, hanging by the balls before being dismissed.
      1. Temples
        Temples 4 July 2016 13: 32
        +28
        This is a pirouette!
        NATO base for Russians!

        Turks continue to amaze

        Maybe her fuck this NAT, and the Turks?
        We recognize the Crimea and then to Russia.
        Anneal so completely!
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 4 July 2016 13: 49
          +34
          To place your equipment on the territory of a potential enemy is idiocy.
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 4 July 2016 13: 52
            +6
            Quote: Thrall
            To place your equipment on the territory of a potential enemy is idiocy.

            - yeah, exactly ... in Le Bourget, for example laughing
            1. Ami du peuple
              Ami du peuple 4 July 2016 14: 40
              +17
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              - yeah, exactly ... in Le Bourget, for example
              What does Le Bourget have to do with it ?! Incirlik - the base of NATO, respectively, security and logistics will also be NATO - ours simply will not be allowed to do so. Who will vouch for the safety of Russian aircraft and the safety of crews?
              And in fact, this base is not needed. Available in Syria is quite enough. And this is a Turkish offer of the same order as an offer to the family of our deceased pilot, a house in Kemer. They know, the Ottomans, that we will never accept this, but on the other hand they demonstrate goodwill without fear of anything ..
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 4 July 2016 14: 56
                +3
                Quote: Ami du peuple
                Incirlik - NATO Base

                - I know...

                Quote: Ami du peuple
                accordingly, security and logistics will also be NATO

                - will no longer be. Turks withdrew their "offer" request

                Quote: Ami du peuple
                What does Le Bourget have to do with it ?!

                - And you can’t fool around already, right? tongue
                1. Koshak
                  Koshak 4 July 2016 23: 52
                  -1
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  - And you can’t fool around already, right? tongue

                  Fools wallow on other sites
                  1. Cat man null
                    Cat man null 5 July 2016 00: 43
                    0
                    Quote: Koshak
                    Fools wallow on other site

                    - cornering easier, right?
              2. Alex777
                Alex777 4 July 2016 19: 15
                +2
                This "news" has already been denied.
              3. uruss
                uruss 4 July 2016 21: 06
                +2
                Undercover with 400, nothing bad will happen! the fly doesn’t slip as well as Kuznetsov on the way and there Peter the Great! shorter than NATO in deep opera!
              4. drunkram
                drunkram 5 July 2016 06: 35
                +1
                It would be better instead to open the airspace over Turkey for our transporters and strategists, if they really want to apologize so much)))
            2. Koshak
              Koshak 4 July 2016 23: 49
              -1
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              - yeah, exactly ... in Le Bourget, for example laughing

              Well, nifiga yourself, farted! What side is Le Bourget here?
          2. Monos
            Monos 4 July 2016 13: 57
            +19
            Quote: Thrall
            To place your equipment on the territory of a potential enemy is idiocy.


            No, well, that’s how it happened in Germany in 1945.
            1. alex-s
              alex-s 4 July 2016 14: 06
              +6
              Again the Turks turned on the back!
              http://izvestia.ru/news/620671
            2. Koshak
              Koshak 4 July 2016 23: 54
              +1
              Quote: Monos
              Quote: Thrall
              To place your equipment on the territory of a potential enemy is idiocy.


              No, well, that’s how it happened in Germany in 1945.

              Now, if we conquered Turkey as Germany in 1945, then it would be possible to compare.
          3. sgazeev
            sgazeev 4 July 2016 13: 58
            -2
            Quote: Thrall
            To place your equipment on the territory of a potential enemy is idiocy.

            The Turks are ready to surrender like street girls, if only they would pay grandmothers. Fedor Fedorovich Ushakov is probably turning over. belay
          4. aleks700
            aleks700 4 July 2016 14: 54
            +1
            The mustache is in order chef. The Turks have proved that we do not go about you. They do not provide us with a base on their territory.
          5. Verdun
            Verdun 4 July 2016 17: 56
            0
            Quote: Thrall
            To place your equipment on the territory of a potential enemy is idiocy.

            Not just a potential adversary, but already once stabbed in the back ... I don’t know how anyone, but personally I never liked when they first puffed out their cheeks, telling everyone about national pride, and then sell this pride for more than dubious profit. Here either cheeks do not have to pout, or you should not bargain ...
            1. Corporal Valera
              Corporal Valera 4 July 2016 19: 44
              +3
              Quote: Verdun
              Here either cheeks do not have to pout, or you should not bargain ...

              Come on. The policy is quite consistent with an all-inclusive society. The demand for tour packages to Turkey has already exceeded the supply by 30%. I just heard it on the news. Patriotic citizens are already packing Chumadans. And somehow, the dead servicemen are no longer remembered. Why then speak for the power?
              1. Verdun
                Verdun 4 July 2016 23: 28
                0
                Quote: Corporal Valera
                Patriotic citizens are already packing Chumadans. And somehow the dead servicemen are no longer remembered. Why then say something for power?

                Patriotic citizens are relatives of the deceased pilot who do not even want to discuss the issue of compensation from the Turks. And those who do not remember, it seems to me, the title of "citizens" is misunderstood.
          6. Persistent
            Persistent 4 July 2016 19: 31
            +3
            To place your equipment on the territory of a potential enemy is idiocy.

            Totally agree with you !! First, they will begin to write off the frequencies of the missile guidance systems under the regulations. And finally, insolently they will try to seize the latest aircraft for transfer to the study of mattress mats. There is a good saying "Once he lied, there is NO faith" And the Turks not only betrayed us, but also shot down our plane and, contrary to all international norms, shot the pilot under the dome !!! am Bastards have no mercy and forgiveness !! About trust. I do not advise our tourists to trust their life to the Turks. By the way, according to the results of the survey .. 95% of Russians do not trust Turkey to have their rest request
            1. Persistent
              Persistent 4 July 2016 20: 05
              0
              To the question about 95% of Russians who are afraid of vacationing in Turkey, I give the link http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201607041504-gr9t.htm
            2. garnik64
              garnik64 4 July 2016 21: 20
              +4
              Oleg Peshkov’s brother refused the handouts of the Turks, which is worthy of respect. And Putin’s entourage gladly accepted an apology. And which of them is a patriot. The Turks need rapprochement, wait for the mullahs and construction companies that sponsored separatism in Russia.
          7. garnik64
            garnik64 4 July 2016 21: 06
            0
            Turkey is not an enemy, he is an enemy. Sivkov is a provocateur, and who sold him the "doctor". The state that waged 13 wars suddenly became a friend. One must be a complete idiot or non-Russian.
            If Putin accepts the proposal of cunning, then Russia will have no future. Yes and goodbye Assad and all peoples who respect Russia. We will observe, but so far Turkey is doing its best.
        2. your1970
          your1970 4 July 2016 13: 50
          +10
          and you are "tomatoes" ....
          That's what the tomato business does with people ..
          Only in a nightmare could such a fortel have been dreamed by Erdogan just a year ago
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 4 July 2016 13: 57
            +15
            All of this is wagged on water.
            It looks like a fake.
            1. x.andvlad
              x.andvlad 4 July 2016 14: 38
              +9
              Completely in the hole ...
              Neither Brusik nor Vashik will allow the deployment of our VKS on a NATO base.
            2. your1970
              your1970 4 July 2016 14: 51
              +5
              Everything is as usual with the Turks: "- I spoke - I did not speak - this was another spoke - they spoke about me - they did not speak at all - you said that" fellow request fool recourse

              MOSCOW, July 4 - RIA Novosti. Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said that Ankara is ready to cooperate with Russia in the fight against the Islamic State terrorist group (IS, banned in Russia), but there is no talk of using the Incirlik base for this.
              Earlier, the TRT channel reported that Cavusoglu allowed the possibility of appearing on the basis of Russian aircraft.
              "I didn't mean it (permission for Russia to use the airbase). We are ready for any cooperation in the fight against IS, as an example I cited "Incirlik". We will cooperate with Russia, but the opening of "Incirlik" is impossible", - explained Cavusoglu to journalists after the meeting of the Turkish government.
              The Kremlin, commenting on the reports of Turkish journalists, noted that Moscow and Ankara did not discuss the use of the Incirlik airbase. Press Secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov noted that this initiative requires analysis "both politically and militarily."
              Experts noted that the appearance of Aerospace Forces aircraft at the Turkish airbase could become a "colossal geopolitical victory" for Russia and a breakthrough in relations between the countries.
              Incirlik Air Base, Turkey.
              The Kremlin learned about Ankara's idea of ​​\ uXNUMXb \ uXNUMXbthe Incirlik airbase from the media
              Incirlik airbase is located in the south of Turkey. Its activities are regulated by the Agreement on Military and Economic Cooperation signed by Ankara and Washington.
              At the same time, the Turkish authorities give permission to use the base. Now there are planes of several countries from the international coalition - the USA, Germany, Great Britain, Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
              1. weksha50
                weksha50 4 July 2016 16: 25
                0
                Quote: your1970
                Now there are planes of several countries from the international coalition - the USA, Germany, Great Britain, Qatar and Saudi Arabia.



                This already assumes, with common sense, the impossibility of accepting such a "proposal" by Russia ...
                What do they want, not by washing, so by riding to put the Russian VKS group under their control?
                So the matter is not only in the capabilities of Turkey ...
              2. voronbel53
                voronbel53 4 July 2016 22: 20
                +2
                Quote: your1970
                Press Secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov noted that this initiative requires analysis "both politically and militarily."
                Experts noted that the appearance of Aerospace Forces aircraft at the Turkish airbase could become a "colossal geopolitical victory" for Russia and a breakthrough in relations between the countries.

                As military experts and everyone else, I want to believe in Russia's victory over the Turks, even in spite of the newspaper duck. How can you combine the incompatible - our NATO-based aerospace forces together with the planes of the USA, Great Britain, Qatar? NATO itself is directed against Russia, no longer at anyone, and here we were warmed up close by, absurd, and someone believed in the possibility of such a situation, well, you can’t be so trusting. Chavushoglu so easternly announced his desire to cooperate with us, that everyone saw in his words even a desire to give the base for general use (if you really want to, you can convince yourself of anything). The Turks are now in such a position that they can promise anything in words, but not to the same extent that Chavoshuoglu later announced, explaining that he was misunderstood ...
            3. Rec
              Rec 4 July 2016 16: 50
              +2
              Quote: Pereira
              It looks like a fake.

              In the same place, the Americans keep their vigorous bonbons. It is unlikely that even the Turks are allowed everywhere.
        3. ammunition
          ammunition 4 July 2016 13: 56
          +2
          Quote: Temples
          This is a pirouette!
          NATO base for Russians!


          There is something to go nuts!
          ------------------
          I am sure that there is already a preliminary operational plan for the destruction of equipment and personnel of a group of Russian airborne forces located at the Ingerlik base.
          Otherwise, in the USA and Turkey there would be no army, but rabble.
          ---------------
          So lol until the mousetrap is made safe, ours will not climb there.
          1. Delink
            Delink 4 July 2016 15: 57
            0
            Let the open skies be better for our planes !!!
        4. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 4 July 2016 14: 00
          +14
          Quote: Temples
          NATO base for Russians!

          Turks continue to amaze

          And at the same time, ISIS training facilities in Turkey continue to exist. No one will be able to place airplanes there, that’s understandable. This is what the Turks understand, because this is a clue, so for noise, like we are good and will not be like that anymore.
          According to him, “Incirlik airbase is NATO, and if Russian planes are based there and act together with the Turks, this means that Turkey relies on Russia.”
          And this is written by Sivkov !!!! Well, who, who, and he must understand that this will not happen.
          1. Temples
            Temples 4 July 2016 14: 11
            -3
            Will-not-is to the globe.
            He communicates with the stars !!!
            (what does he smoke ???? or is there? maybe Turkish tomatoes? the stars tell him !!!)

            And then the very fact of such a statement from the Turks!
            You see that they will declare the return of the historical name of Constantinople with the subsequent transfer of the Bosphorus to the Russians.

            Fun! (and here are the tomatoes?)
            Please forgive, not right, not jolly - POLITICS! GEOPOLITICS!
        5. Peasant
          Peasant 4 July 2016 14: 01
          -1
          Temples (7) RU Today, 13: 32 ↑ New
          This is a pirouette!

          This pirouette pulls on all aerobatics. Famously bend the Turks, famously.
          Gooorrryachy greetings to the Fashkinton regional committee and to.
        6. RUSS
          RUSS 4 July 2016 14: 29
          +3
          Quote: Temples
          This is a pirouette! NATO base for Russians!


          Turkish Foreign Minister refutes his words about Russian Aerospace Forces based on Incirlik
          “I did not make such a statement. We said that we could cooperate with anyone in the fight against IS, ”the Turkish diplomat quoted the media as saying on national television.

          “We stated that we could cooperate with Russia during the fight against IS. “I did not make any statements regarding Russian aircraft at the Incirlik airbase,” Cavusoglu added.
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 4 July 2016 15: 14
            +3
            Quote: RUSS
            Turkish Foreign Minister refutes his words about Russian Aerospace Forces based on Incirlik
            “I did not make such a statement. We said that we could cooperate with anyone in the fight against IS, ”the Turkish diplomat quoted the media as saying on national television.

            “We stated that we could cooperate with Russia during the fight against IS. “I did not make any statements regarding Russian aircraft at the Incirlik airbase,” Cavusoglu added.

            Rasha Today has long had questions about this. Although already to the rest of our media offices. I'm afraid that Kisel will be whistling about this base anyway on the weekend, but he will either miss a refutation, or about “not everything is so simple”. as well as about Erdogan's "apology", which the GDP generously accepted and canceled all sanctions at the moment
        7. sub307
          sub307 4 July 2016 15: 54
          +1
          "This is a pirouette!
          NATO base for the Russians! "
          Come on ..., our military history and not such "pirouettes" made. Just before the beginning of the Second World War, that is, until June 22, they marched with the Germans after Poland in the parade, the bases in the north were ready to present, with raw materials, including strategic ones, supplies, pilots in Lipetsk were accepted, tankers in Kazan ... it just happened. "
          Look at the proposal of Turkey (if it is really possible to take place at the official level) you need to be extremely pragmatic and balanced, without emotions, so to speak. I think the current leadership of the Russian Defense Ministry (including the president, of course) can completely cope with this.
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        9. DHA
          DHA 4 July 2016 16: 44
          0
          There is already a rebuttal on the counter, journalists are running ahead of the cart just to publish the sensation https://cont.ws/post/311129
        10. WKS
          WKS 4 July 2016 19: 58
          0
          This is not for nothing of course. What are they asking for in return?
        11. uruss
          uruss 4 July 2016 21: 04
          0
          Yes, really a turn in the wrong direction! Nato already on the afig from such turns somewhere in the news read that Nuland already pisses with boiling water from the fact that Erdogan apologized to Putin and then yours !!
      2. razmik72
        razmik72 4 July 2016 13: 36
        +1
        Quote: Dimontius
        If this fiction happens, then Senators Obama will be fried at the stake, hanging by the balls before being dismissed.

        Bullshit is not even worth commenting.
      3. volot-voin
        volot-voin 4 July 2016 13: 36
        +6
        Quote: Dimontius
        If this fiction happens, Senators Obama will be fried at the stake before they are dismissed.

        With Obama, a separate conversation will be an honorary ex-ohm, like Bush. He was not the only one who made decisions.
        so we know that one bad guy will betray (substitute) us at the first danger.
        The uncle realized that he had put them on the wrong ones; he crawled away to apologize. Betray of course it can, you never know betrayed us. Hope should be solely on their own strength.
        1. your1970
          your1970 4 July 2016 13: 52
          +1
          volot-voin
          And this base is a force, an exemplary example, the United States is not in vain holding them around the world ...
        2. figwam
          figwam 4 July 2016 13: 58
          0
          How is it at the same airport with the Germans, Turks and Fshashiks? that help terrorists in Syria.
      4. Patriot 1
        Patriot 1 4 July 2016 13: 38
        +2
        One of the parents of ISIS decided to provide support for the destruction of their offspring?! .... Perhaps this child has become hopeless and already a great burden to the parent.
        1. ProkletyiPirat
          ProkletyiPirat 4 July 2016 13: 51
          +4
          I will upset you, but your own citizens can hang this uncle by the balls, along with all the property, here you like it or not, you will cry out "I gave birth to you, I will kill you."

          Another thing is that the uncle did not understand in time where he plunged, now he begins to fiercely and energetically work with his limbs, so we are waiting for even more slogans and "proposals".
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      6. Sid.74
        Sid.74 4 July 2016 13: 56
        +2
        Why do we have your Incirlik ...
        Deck aircraft from the Admiral Kuznetsov cruiser will participate in strikes against militants in Syria from the eastern Mediterranean in October 2016 - January 2017. This was reported on Saturday by TASS by a military-diplomatic source in Moscow.
        http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/3424393

        Moreover, Ankara allowed the use of the Incirlik base of the USAF, Germany, Great Britain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia air forces ... negative

        Prostitutes are just a word ...
      7. sever.56
        sever.56 4 July 2016 13: 57
        +4
        Ha ... A kind of "congratulations" from Erdogan to the Americans on the Day of Independence, ugh, on the Day of Independence! lol
        And with regards to this Turkish "trick with the ears" with the proposal of the base, I think that making such an offer Erdogan understood perfectly well that Russia does not need this base. The usual demonstration of the desire to restore relations with Russia, nothing more.
      8. Kite
        Kite 4 July 2016 14: 05
        +2
        Quote: Dimontius
        If this fiction happens, then Senators Obama .....

        something unbelievable already happened while giving a speech to Чavuşoлуlu! But, the use of that base by our VKS is absolutely excluded with the live Erdogan and NATO.
      9. Stranger03
        Stranger03 4 July 2016 14: 17
        +2
        Уже опровергли: http://www.rbc.ru/politics/04/07/2016/577a3e109a794741356eab2a
      10. EvilLion
        EvilLion 4 July 2016 14: 27
        +1
        And you can’t recall how the German allies purged the war of the USSR and switched to his side?
      11. Delink
        Delink 4 July 2016 15: 55
        +1
        The Turks have already denied this information))))
      12. INVESTOR
        INVESTOR 4 July 2016 17: 01
        +1
        The Turks when they brought down the dryer licked the Americans, now they licked the base with us ... what kind of people .. recourse
        1. uruss
          uruss 4 July 2016 22: 37
          0
          Tricky chocks!
      13. GSH-18
        GSH-18 4 July 2016 18: 47
        0
        Ankara can open the base "Incirlik" for Russian videoconferencing

        In those Nate horseradish in tomato!
        We will consider the Americans tails lol
        And you can still put the s-400 there))) It is interesting that the American friends of Erdogan will sing it? lol
    2. Pavel1
      Pavel1 4 July 2016 13: 32
      +3
      Well, do you need this country NATO first shot down our plane, and now they want us to deploy our aircraft on their territory? You need to be the last idiot to do this ...
      1. Stalker.1977
        Stalker.1977 4 July 2016 13: 38
        +6
        So far, these are just words and nothing more, Erdogan the master of his word ...... wanted to give, wanted to pick up, remember how many eulogies there were and talk about a U-turn towards Russia when they announced the South Stream, and then got a stab in the back .......... And again, on a new one, Turkey is Erdogan, whose memory is short, or everyone needs Turkish resorts, in short, I don’t believe the Turks, they can say anything until our planes start take off from Ingerlik, nefig sing laudatory praises, zadolbali.
    3. avg
      avg 4 July 2016 13: 34
      +4
      A counter proposal is to close this base for mattresses.
      1. Banishing liberoids
        Banishing liberoids 4 July 2016 13: 44
        +3
        Avg-it would be possible to better shut down Turkey itself.
    4. Sly
      Sly 4 July 2016 13: 46
      +3
      Quote: kebeskin
      Yes, your base is not needed for nothing.
      Do you even understand what this means?
    5. Altona
      Altona 4 July 2016 13: 59
      0
      Quote: kebeskin
      Yes, your base is not needed for nothing.

      ------------------
      Already can not, refuted. This is from the area of ​​carrots in front of the nose.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 4 July 2016 15: 16
        0
        Quote: Altona
        Already can not, refuted. This is from the area of ​​carrots in front of the nose.

        or trolling "dear partners", as we like to say, when our elite breaks off something like that
    6. sandrmur76
      sandrmur76 4 July 2016 14: 02
      +2
      Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said that Russia is not talking about using the Incirlik air base, but Ankara is ready to cooperate with Moscow in the fight against ISIS (the organization is banned in the Russian Federation).
    7. VP
      VP 4 July 2016 14: 19
      +1
      Relax, no one will let them in - this is a NATO base with the possible presence of nuclear weapons.
      In this way, the Turks are inflicting a price on themselves before the Americans.
      I think that everything will go off the whistle and the Turks will begin to unlock.
    8. vkl.47
      vkl.47 4 July 2016 14: 25
      +2
      Ankara has already denied this statement
      1. DIVAN SOLDIER
        DIVAN SOLDIER 4 July 2016 14: 45
        +3
        But the forum already thought that Turkey caved in))) no matter how broken off, Erdogash is a stubborn devil ...
    9. Platonich
      Platonich 4 July 2016 16: 11
      +1
      No one promised her! This is our chain media inflated! This was not even discussed by the Turks!
    10. ICT
      ICT 4 July 2016 18: 26
      0
      Quote: kebeskin
      one bad guy will betray (substitute)


      this one or something ??
    11. joopel
      joopel 4 July 2016 19: 33
      0
      This is obviously an unacceptable proposal, which is why it was voiced. Political declaration, slap on the Americans, with far-reaching consequences.
    12. Bird the Talker
      Bird the Talker 4 July 2016 20: 24
      0
      http://www.tvc.ru/news/show/id/95786
  2. Andrey K
    Andrey K 4 July 2016 13: 27
    +10
    ... Ankara will give permission to Russia to use the Incirlik air base ...
    Every day is more fun wassat
    If this is not a stuffing, then I very much doubt the adequacy of the Turkish "sworn" neighbors.
    Inadequate to offer it after what happened negative
    It is inadequate to invite to a base already used by "colleagues" from the USA and Germany request
    Inadequate, expect inadequacy from us wassat
    1. Wolverine
      Wolverine 4 July 2016 13: 31
      +1
      Yes, the mysterious ways of the Lord, this is a turn ...
    2. i80186
      i80186 4 July 2016 13: 40
      +3
      Quote: Andrey K
      Every day is more fun

      My situation is hopeless, but I can at least kick! (C)
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 July 2016 13: 54
      0
      Putin seems to be in a conversation - through a telephone receiver, Erdogan was grabbed well by the collar - this wild animal has already become tame.
  3. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 4 July 2016 13: 28
    -1
    Yeah. They twist us there not only mirrors ...
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 4 July 2016 13: 31
      0
      This is a lure! Specially to beat more of our aircraft. Ours will fly there, the Turks will knock them down and say that they did not invite anyone))) but seriously, it all looks like a duck, since tomorrow the Turks will say that they did not say anything like that.
      1. Shadowcat
        Shadowcat 4 July 2016 13: 58
        +3
        Seriously (this is for those three boobs and / or euros / workers), a downed plane is still half the trouble (I recommend reading to everyone who has ignited the turbine). But the opening of all systems is a big disaster. Maybe I, as a non-specialist, am not right (even if knowledgeable people correct me), but when taking off, and even more so when communicating with the tower, the plane is very fonit in different spectra for which some partners are ready not just to lay their hands - mother and kidney.
        After all, open partners to bring down this stuffing and it will be easier (and as a result more than 200x-300x, and even worse - prisoners).
  4. Coconut
    Coconut 4 July 2016 13: 29
    +2
    Turkey decided to bend? belay we have wonderful airfields in Syria (the Khmeimim base is the Shairat jump airdromes in the province of Homs and Tiyas in Palmyra) and with Inzherlik hemerai, the same logistics bully
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 4 July 2016 13: 47
      +1
      I don’t think that this base is so necessary for our VKS. But! Let's look at it from the other side: if the fact of the use of the Turkish military base by the Russian aircraft will harm Turkey's relations with the rest of NATO, then "we must take it!" Whatever one may say, but to achieve the exclusion of Turkey from the North Atlantic Alliance, we simply must! hi
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 4 July 2016 16: 31
        +1
        Quote: Wiruz
        To achieve the exclusion of Turkey from the North Atlantic Alliance, we simply must!


        laughing Blessed is he who believes ... wassat

        Seek ... hi
  5. nik-karata
    nik-karata 4 July 2016 13: 31
    +5
    nooooo! as in a cartoon: "we don’t get yours for nothing, and we don’t get money with money." Again, after all, he will substitute, you damn osmanophile. Who once betrayed ..... hi
    1. Evver
      Evver 4 July 2016 15: 00
      0
      "From the village Vanka and took a wife - a good girl"

      "Magic Ring"
      fellow
  6. BARKAS
    BARKAS 4 July 2016 13: 32
    +6
    Most likely, this is not the point; we simply agreed on a gas flow to Turkey.
  7. Yeraz
    Yeraz 4 July 2016 13: 33
    +6
    This is a colossal breakthrough in Russian-Turkish relations, this is a sharp, phenomenal turn of Turkey towards Russia, because with this step they actually sever relations with the United States and inflict a serious blow to NATO unity.
    Well word gap too loudly said, probably the doctor does not represent the level of relations of Turkey with the United States and with Western countries.
    But the fact that this is a colossal breakthrough is unambiguous, since access to flights from the territory of a NATO country, and I am more than sure without the consent of the United States, could not be such a principle, since membership in NATO is certain obligations and Turkey itself just like that, doesn’t can decide the admission of a foreign state to its airfields, especially if it is the state of Russia, which for NATO is an adversary or a source of threat.
    I think this is another bargain between the Russian Federation and the United States. Maybe this is an agreement on the zones in Syria they say you do not touch our opposition, we do not touch yours there.

    Although the admission of the videoconferencing to Incirlik is not yet available, when it will be clearer then.
    1. Patriot 1
      Patriot 1 4 July 2016 13: 53
      +2
      Quote: Yeraz

      ... But the fact that this is a colossal breakthrough is unambiguous, since access to flights from the territory of the NATO country and I am more than sure without the consent of the United States could not be such a principle, since membership in NATO is certain obligations and Turkey itself is simply Thus, it cannot decide the admission of a foreign state to its airfields, especially if it is the state of Russia, which is an adversary or source of threat to NATO.
      .......

      And how do you feel about the fact that our Navy has long been using the Spanish port of Ceuta almost as a base? By the way, Spain is a member of NATO. And how does the naval base, in this case, differ from the air force?

      I quote:
      The Times quotes military experts as saying that Ceuta has become the de facto base of the Russian navy in the western Mediterranean. “Spain has laid a red carpet for Russian ships. And this despite the fact that the occupation of Crimea continues, and sanctions apply to Russia, ”said Luc Coffey, an expert on security at the Heritage Foundation and a former adviser to the US Department of Defense.

      Criticism of Spain in the US Congress was voiced after the patrol ship “Ladny” called in Ceutu (a Spanish port on the coast of North Africa) in early May. In total, according to experts, 2011 warships have visited this port since 57.
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 4 July 2016 16: 35
        0
        Quote: Patriot 1
        And how does the naval base, in this case, differ from the air force?


        There part of the infrastructure is private property... And so the owner of it and leased it to our Navy ...

        That is, not the state of Spain, but the private owner ... If my memory serves me, he is still not a citizen of Spain, or has dual citizenship ...

        Stink, whine and disputes go, but the lease is concluded and is in effect ...
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  8. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 4 July 2016 13: 33
    +5
    This is such an unfortunate joke? Quickly, however, the Turks were recorded as friends !!! We slurp them with the awl of molasses.
  9. vadimtt
    vadimtt 4 July 2016 13: 33
    +3
    Maybe a place for our nuclear weapons in the warehouse will be allocated, next to the American one? Tricky Turks bully
    1. ProkletyiPirat
      ProkletyiPirat 4 July 2016 13: 44
      +1
      But is it there for us? bomb yourself?
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 4 July 2016 13: 36
    +1
    This radish will crack at the first nix - this is about Erdogan. But the offer is surprisingly "cool". To put it mildly, unexpected. But "deflection is counted." Let's take note.
  11. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 4 July 2016 13: 36
    +9
    It started - "colossal breakthrough", Turkish tomatoes are the reddest, the resorts are the most resort-like. Ugh. Babai, they are babai. I don’t believe in a penny, and I don’t bet a penny. Let them hang out their base in the stern area. We'll do it for ourselves.
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 4 July 2016 13: 39
      +15
      Well, our fools are tourists, again they fly to Turkey, like flies to the city ....
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 July 2016 13: 56
        +4
        Bored to see.
      2. sgazeev
        sgazeev 4 July 2016 14: 09
        +7
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        Well, our fools are tourists, again they fly to Turkey, like flies to the city ....

        But the possible resumption of the pilgrimage of Russian tourists to Turkey by Eugene Satanovsky did not cause enthusiasm, especially in the light of the latest terrorist attack.

        “You have to be a clinical idiot who doesn’t have a bone of self-preservation instinct in his head at all, and even pity for relatives and friends all the more so as to fly to the airport, which is bombed and fired upon. And in order to sell tours to a country with such a level of terrorism, one must also be a rare scoundrel, ”the FAN interlocutor noted.
  12. Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 4 July 2016 13: 38
    +5
    What did Peter the first say there?
    Don't trust the three: don't believe the woman do not trust TurkDo not believe the drinker.
    Something is not clean here ....
  13. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 4 July 2016 13: 41
    0
    It really hurts a cardinal reversal. Somewhat alarming. What about amerikosov? Kicked out? Or will our pilots be offered there to go to the same pubs at their leisure?
  14. Munchhausen
    Munchhausen 4 July 2016 13: 47
    +4
    I would be more worried about the safety of aircraft at this base. You never know what. And no one will be to blame - there are all kinds of terrorists around. As if it were a trap.
  15. Shuttle
    Shuttle 4 July 2016 13: 47
    +7
    "Incirlik airbase is NATO's, and if Russian planes are based there and act together with the Turks, it means that Turkey is betting on Russia."


    “Quidquid id est, timeo Danaos et dona ferentes!” / “Whatever it is, I’m afraid of Danes who bring gifts!”
    Well, or simply - "Fear the Danes who bring gifts."

    This Incirlik is not without reason. Look for a catch. If you don’t, it’s good. If you find it, it’s even better. You can’t drive our VKS into Turkey. At least not under Erdogan.
  16. HMR333
    HMR333 4 July 2016 13: 47
    +2
    pure rubbish is complete nonsense here and there is nothing to discuss!
  17. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 4 July 2016 13: 47
    +3
    Cannabis plantations burn under Ankara? belay
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 July 2016 13: 58
      +2
      Ankara has a reliable and trusted supplier of such all-changing products - Ukraine.
  18. rpuropuu
    rpuropuu 4 July 2016 13: 49
    +1
    Quote: Temples
    This is a pirouette!
    NATO base for Russians!

    Turks continue to amaze

    Maybe her fuck this NAT, and the Turks?
    We recognize the Crimea and then to Russia.
    Anneal so completely!

    The Turks were all amicably thrown ... If they were given "visa-free" or accepted into the EU, they would hardly have become compliant. You have to be doubly careful with them. stop.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 July 2016 13: 59
      0
      Turkish stream Turkey has already failed.
  19. Cat man null
    Cat man null 4 July 2016 13: 50
    +6
    We will cooperate with everyone who opposes IS. We have been waging this struggle from the very beginning, and we have opened the Incirlik base for those who want to take an active part in it. Why can't we just as well cooperate with Russia? IG is an enemy for all of us, and we need to fight it. This is extremely important for putting this mechanism into practice and preventing any unwanted incidents. We agreed on this topic with Sergei Lavrov, ”said Cavusoglu.

    - this is not even a "protocol of intent" yet
    - but the idea itself ... is funny, and a week ago about something like that and somehow ... it never occurred to me request
    - I look forward to continuing the show with interest yes
  20. Wedmak
    Wedmak 4 July 2016 13: 50
    +4
    Yes, yes ... so that our guys can find that pilot who knocked down our dryer and tore his eggs? Somewhere in a dark place ... and they will say that it was so.
  21. donavi49
    donavi49 4 July 2016 13: 51
    +2
    Already reject the opportunity. They have seven Fridays on Monday.

    Turkish Foreign Ministry ruled out the possibility of using Incirlik air base by Russia

    MOSCOW, July 4 - RIA News. Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said that Ankara is ready to cooperate with Russia in the fight against the terrorist group "Islamic State" (IS, banned in Russia), but there is no talk of using the "Incirlik" base for this.


    Earlier, the Turkish television channel TRT reported that Cavusoglu allowed the possibility of appearing on the basis of Russian aircraft.
    Incirlik airbase is located in the south of Turkey.
    Its activities are regulated by the Treaty on Military and Economic Cooperation, signed by Ankara and Washington.

    At the same time, the Turkish authorities give permission to use the base. Now there are planes of several countries from the international coalition - the USA, Germany, Great Britain, Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
    http://ria.ru/world/20160704/1458183964.html
  22. Lanista
    Lanista 4 July 2016 13: 51
    0
    The Turkish Autonomous Region or the Republic of Turkey - which name for the subject of the Russian Federation sounds better?
    1. aleks700
      aleks700 4 July 2016 15: 00
      0
      The Turkish Autonomous Region or the Republic of Turkey - which name for the subject of the Russian Federation sounds better?
      Istanbul region.
  23. Castor oil
    Castor oil 4 July 2016 13: 51
    +3
    Are they keeping us completely idiots? So that we can provide the amers on a silver platter with advanced aircraft and air defense systems (and one cannot be based on the other by definition) directly under their electronic nose? Like you, cut in all kinds of technical intelligence, draw radio frequency circuits, and so on ...
    "Morons b ... b" (c)
  24. Enoch
    Enoch 4 July 2016 13: 54
    +1
    Another Turk-Yankovsky gambit. We do not need a rake.
  25. dsm100
    dsm100 4 July 2016 13: 58
    +5
    Miracles and more. What is Erdogan ready to do to return tourists ...
    1. Castor oil
      Castor oil 4 July 2016 14: 45
      +1
      Yeah, and fuck the thousands of hostages ...
    2. Khariton
      Khariton 4 July 2016 17: 13
      0
      Quote: dsm100
      Miracles and more. What is Erdogan ready to do to return tourists ...

      That's the whole point ... He's rubbing his hands now! "Ours" rushed for a freebie, they could at least take a pause (Muscovites are office plankton ..))))
      The day after the moratorium on the sale of organized tours to Turkey was lifted, tour operators began selling packages to this country. This direction immediately became the most popular, it follows from the data of the service "Yandex.Travel".
      Representative of OnlineTour Igor Blinov says that already at the beginning of Friday, Turkey's share in the total sales structure was 6,7%, on Saturday - 38,8%, on Sunday - 35,6%.
      "Now the minimum cost is 40 thousand rubles per person, but this is still lower than, for example, in Crete, where the starting price is 65 thousand rubles," he explains.
      https://cont.ws/post/311071?_utl_t=vk

      Already disgusting .... am
      1. ICT
        ICT 4 July 2016 18: 30
        0
        Quote: Chariton
        Already disgusting ....

        . stop, but what the contrary, the authorities gave good, I am not ashamed of the people. be it plankton, be hardworking, but the mounds of buggers
        1. Khariton
          Khariton 4 July 2016 18: 40
          -1
          Quote: TIT
          Quote: Chariton
          Already disgusting ....

          . stop, but what the contrary, the authorities gave good, I am not ashamed of the people. be it plankton, be hardworking, but the mounds of buggers

          It is disgusting that the money was taken to the Turks .... Immediately! No patriotism and dignity, those who went there! They will undermine you there, you’ll scream that Russia didn’t protect you ... (ours go to Crimea, Altai, etc.) I can imagine what kind of smiles the Turks have got malicious ... damn it!
          1. ICT
            ICT 4 July 2016 19: 18
            -1
            Quote: Chariton
            I can imagine what kind of smiles the Turks have malicious ... damn it!

            the fish rots from the head ,

            though there is an opinion that this is an excuse for the tail request
            Quote: Chariton
            They'll blow you up there, yelling



            1. Khariton
              Khariton 4 July 2016 19: 27
              +1
              You exaggerate, mister .... You perfectly understood what I mean! hi You can’t blame Putin, even though all of Moscow will enter the swamp .. Then Russia will stand on its hind legs! Remember this .. hi
        2. Khariton
          Khariton 4 July 2016 20: 15
          +1
          Quote: TIT
          Quote: Chariton
          Already disgusting ....

          . stop, but what the contrary, the authorities gave good, I am not ashamed of the people. be it plankton, be hardworking, but the mounds of buggers

          Soon you will become a marshal ..))) bully Good for you! hi
          1. ICT
            ICT 4 July 2016 20: 42
            0
            how patriots like to cheer on personalities when there’s nothing to say in response
            Quote: Chariton
            Soon you will become a marshal ..)))

            I'll argue for a bet, you’re faster
            Quote: Chariton
            You can’t blame Putin

            me from a high hill (auto moderator pederast), we drank the gate of the mantis lol , and he himself will leave sooner or later,
            Quote: Chariton
            You perfectly understood what I mean!

            willows should have understood me
            so simple memo
  26. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 4 July 2016 14: 06
    +2
    You can see a hot frying pan under Erdogan's ass! It looks like it will fly off soon. The "masters of the world" will not forgive such actions. And you can't believe his word. Somersaults with "Turkish Stream" have not yet been forgotten.
  27. freejack
    freejack 4 July 2016 14: 08
    0
    Bullshit is not even worth commenting.

    Rather not delirium, but a nightmare for "not ours" ... But if it comes true, then crumble like dominoes ... Although I do not trust this "mustachioed uncle" ... He has not yet matured as a big political player, rather this is a message to the mattress ... little attention now to Turkey from a nigga ... experiencing ...
  28. Leo7777
    Leo7777 4 July 2016 14: 17
    +4
    already refuted http://www.rbc.ru/politics/04/07/2016/577a3e109a794741356eab2a not surprising
  29. Holsten
    Holsten 4 July 2016 14: 17
    0
    It's time to get used to the broad Turkish soul and not rush to comment: several hours have passed and "ONO" has already refuted its words about the base in Incirlik. However, from the very beginning, the statement about the provision of such an opportunity aroused bewilderment and distrust.
  30. Stinger
    Stinger 4 July 2016 14: 19
    0
    If so, it would be nice to insert an awl into T. Obama's ass. Fly in from there and bomb off the moderate, armed to the teeth, opposition that wasn’t cut by Washington’s beloved.
  31. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 4 July 2016 14: 22
    0
    I, what a damn thing, do not understand this balabol Sivkov. If Turkey has turned its "face" towards us, then wouldn't it be easier for her to close her border for the bearded with us, to knock them all out of its territory, if its forces are not enough, Iran will ask us and help. And to fence a garden with Injerlikrm is an imitation of violent activity.
  32. Vladislav 73
    Vladislav 73 4 July 2016 14: 27
    +1
    The Turks already otmazyvatsya, like they misunderstood:
    Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said that Ankara did not offer to open access to Incirlik airbase for Russia, reports Reuters.
    “I did not make such a statement. I said that we can cooperate with everyone in the fight against IS, ”Cavusoglu said in response to a question about whether he said that Russian planes could use the air base in Incirlik.
  33. Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 4 July 2016 14: 30
    0
    The airbase is certainly good! Straight - a momentous event. But now, where to put the bearded? How does Erdogan imagine the simultaneous support of two warring camps? You have to choose which side to take, if not cool. No, of course, for some time you can snuggle up. But a long walk on the blade is unlikely to succeed. This is a dangerous occupation.
    A lascivious woman, walking in the open with two men at the same time, as a rule, as a result "snatches" from both.
    The ball is getting more and more tangled. If this article is not an informational stuffing, of course.
  34. Engineer
    Engineer 4 July 2016 14: 32
    0
    After Yugoslavia, it was not so embarrassing for your country ...
    1. Lenon
      Lenon 4 July 2016 15: 29
      -2
      like a prostitute rushing around, I’ll give a Turk, I won’t give a Turk,
  35. Prince of Pensions
    Prince of Pensions 4 July 2016 14: 37
    0
    Stuffing. Already refused refuted.
  36. black
    black 4 July 2016 14: 43
    0
    To promise - not to marry. But the statement is significant. A gesture of goodwill towards Moscow and spitting at Washington.
  37. Rambylbafen
    Rambylbafen 4 July 2016 14: 52
    0
    Yes, we’ve gone backward, saying that they didn’t promise anyone anything hi
  38. Pitot
    Pitot 4 July 2016 15: 02
    0
    Damn, what kind of leadership do these countries have in the type of Western civilization (not Russian-Slavic in the sense) - like a louse on a scallop, like a flea in the ass of a donkey .....
  39. Lenon
    Lenon 4 July 2016 15: 08
    +2
    tourists, now also the base ...
    1. edos1979
      edos1979 4 July 2016 15: 27
      0
      Why are you not a comrade? Are you ill?
  40. Mengad
    Mengad 4 July 2016 15: 14
    0
    The first steps in the fight against Busurmans?
  41. edos1979
    edos1979 4 July 2016 15: 25
    0
    The Turks also offered their base as they apologized for the downed plane. Everyone sees what he wants to see. Even if it is only in his sore brain.
  42. Dave36
    Dave36 4 July 2016 15: 30
    0
    Yes, there will be no base .... stop retyping Yandex (
  43. LVMI1980
    LVMI1980 4 July 2016 15: 59
    +1
    as they say the company "Schaz" is at your service smile
  44. LVMI1980
    LVMI1980 4 July 2016 16: 01
    +1
    I would like to say about tourists with Lavrov's words "D ... ly"
  45. Mengad
    Mengad 4 July 2016 16: 46
    +1
    Quote: Dave36
    Yes, there will be no base .... stop retyping Yandex (

    Will there be a base or not? The last word is for Erdogan and not for you dear wink
  46. yuriy55
    yuriy55 4 July 2016 16: 52
    0
    Russian planes in "Incirlik"
    good

    Nothing more to add ...
  47. Khariton
    Khariton 4 July 2016 16: 53
    +1
    I do not believe the Ottomans ... They say one thing, think another, do the third! It’s better not to turn your back on them, they’ll immediately stab a knife into the back ..
    But the protracted confrontation is neither profitable nor necessary for the Turks, nor for us! It is necessary to decide something anyway ... Caution Vladimir Vladimirovich .. hi !
  48. atamankko
    atamankko 4 July 2016 17: 55
    +1
    You don’t have to believe the Turks, but Erdogan’s worth of some GDP was won,
    our president is not such a simpleton to immediately change course.
  49. saryarka
    saryarka 4 July 2016 18: 03
    0
    Yes, this base for Russian planes will not fly, there is all the logistics, communications and maintenance facilities of the NATO standard and standards. There are a lot of things to remodel and bring there. In addition, Turkey does not have the right to give the go-ahead to accommodate our planes without the consent of other NATO members , especially the United States, and they are unlikely to agree. Another thing is if something extreme happens and our plane needs to urgently land for salvation, then yes. And this is more of a political move on the part of the Turks.
  50. VOENOBOZ
    VOENOBOZ 4 July 2016 18: 45
    0
    Politics is a tricky thing, the Turks need to establish relations with us, and we don’t need an enemy neighbor, and the economic losses of the Turks hit the common people hard - people are not happy.