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Fight without enthusiasm?

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According to some experts, Moscow does not share Syrian and Iranian enthusiasm about the situation on the antiterrorist front in Syria. Allegedly, Damascus and Tehran are ready to go into battle, and they believe that the truce will help regroup the militants, while Moscow, by contrast, is cautious and inclined to continue the truce.

The article by M.K. Bhadrakumar (MK Bhadrakumar), a former diplomat who worked for the 29 years in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of India, published in the newspaper Asia TimesA number of assumptions are being considered regarding the meeting of the ministers of defense of Iran, Russia and Syria in Tehran, held in June, and the further general strategy of Damascus, Tehran and Moscow to combat terrorists in Syria.

According to the expert, the last ministerial meeting "raises more questions than answers." Almost everything that is known about this event is borrowed from the comments of Iranian Defense Minister General Hossein Dehqan. His statements quoted Iranian media.

Fight without enthusiasm?


Mr. Dehkan stressed that the meeting in Tehran summed up the conflict in Syria from a strategic point of view. He highlighted a number of key points.

1. The main cause of the Syrian conflict was the "expansionist and aggressive" policy of the United States, Saudi Arabia, Israel and some other states in the region.

2. According to the military official, the United States and its regional allies were playing a dishonest game, portraying the fight against terrorism.

3. A “dangerous move” is being launched, aimed at destabilizing the region, inciting separatism and undermining the national sovereignty of Syria.

4. Agenda for Iran: consistent continuation of the "total struggle against terrorism."

5. In Iran, they discussed the need to adopt a strategy that would include “decisive, quick, inclusive and coordinated actions” against terrorist groups.

The meeting in Tehran, about which the minister spoke, took place against the background of rumors: that the Russian and Iranian approaches to the Syrian situation do not converge. Recently, some Iranian media have even criticized Russia's position: allegedly Moscow has no longer been conducting such active military operations in Syria as before.

What does Moscow say in response? It is also known very little. Regarding the meeting in Tehran, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced that the event discussed "priority measures to strengthen cooperation" in the fight against extremist groups and "security initiatives" aimed at preventing jihadist groups from conducting larger operations.

However, in the same June one “intriguing comment” from the Russian information agency Sputnik appeared. Its author analyzed the balance of power in Syria. The analysis indicates that the Syrian government forces are at the limit of their capabilities, and therefore it is not necessary to wait for the inevitable military victory in Rakka or Aleppo.

As MK Bhadrakumar notes, this commentary gives the following estimate of the attack on Rakka.

Racca is a large city with a population of 200.000 people. This alone poses great difficulties before any attempted attack. In addition, Daesh fighters have seriously strengthened their positions throughout the city. Finally, the third problem is the lack of both army and militia forces. Yes, now the most combat-ready army units and popular forces are deployed in the direction of Raqqa (including tank brigade and brigade of special operations forces), but their number, as well as their combat capabilities, is difficult to assess.

As for the effectiveness of Russian actions from the air, during the alleged attack of the city, it would be significantly reduced compared with the “active phase of the Russian campaign”. The fact is that airplanes are already working at the limit of the combat range.

And it is unlikely that the Syrian army will take full control of the local military airfield. But even so. If the airfield passes into the hands of the Syrian army, the militants of “Daesh” will be able to fire at it.

In residential areas to cause air strikes will be impossible.

In such a situation, when the Syrians also lacked personnel, the attack could take up to several months.

To some extent, similar estimates are given and the situation in the Aleppo area. The commentary notes that the best units of the Syrian troops have already been transferred to Raqqah, and the communication lines and supply system for Aleppo are excessively stretched.

The attack on Raqqa could be a good propaganda exercise, but it is fraught with heavy losses of both time and resources. In addition, on several other fronts, the situation "may worsen at any moment."

What conclusions does an expert make from this?

Against the background of the "fanatical speeches" of President Bashar al-Assad in Syria (for example, his recent statements in parliament in Damascus, where he called for a complete military victory), Russian analysts tend to take a sober and realistic assessment of the situation.

It goes without saying, the Asia Times writes, that the Kremlin does not share the enthusiasm and confidence of Tehran and Damascus about the situation. Simply put, Russia avoids risk, while Damascus and Tehran are eager to fight.

Moscow prefers a cease-fire, and this is understandable, MK Bhadrakumar believes. However, Iran and Syria are convinced that the ceasefire agreement only helps the opposition to regroup and even return some territories that were lost earlier.

In fact, the expert is sure that it was Russia's support that allowed the Syrian government to strengthen control over most of Damascus, Homs and Hama and gain control over the territories around Aleppo. The Assad regime is too tough to deal a decisive blow to the opposition, with the exception of the western regions of the country.

Accordingly, it was Russia, and not the Assad government, who would have to shoulder the heavy burden of control over the whole country. Moscow is showing a reluctance to bear such a burden, the analyst points out.

From the speech of Dehkan, it also becomes clear that Tehran is clearly afraid of Moscow’s aspirations to maintain working relations with the United States and Israel. Moscow is in favor of adhering to the ceasefire in Syria and is actively promoting communication through communication channels between the Assad government and opposition commanders for the de-escalation of the conflict at the local level.

In other words, Russia focuses on negotiations on the cessation of hostilities and the intra Syrian dialogue on the future of the Syrian state.

And what will happen next? Great question! Iran and Syria should be extremely careful: after all, the United States and its allies may have a backup plan. Russia can also be trapped in the American trap. It is already clear that the next political step with the participation of external players in Syria will be the transfer of powers of local authorities to the Syrian factions from both the government and the opposition. According to the publicist, there are already signs that the military and political situation is moving in this direction. The recent arrival of British and French special forces fully proves the “expectation” of such a decentralization process in Syria.

Of course, Tehran and Damascus see the de facto partition of Syria by external forces. And they "will not accept it". But Moscow seems to be pulling the cat by the tail. Why so? Yes, because, from the point of view of Russia, cooperation with the United States presents a tempting prospect of opening a broader dialogue with Washington. Moscow wants to relax tensions between the two countries.

Recent ones news they say, however, that it is not Russia that is making concessions to the United States, but vice versa. And the source of this opinion is the brain trust “Stratfor”.

As noted by RIA News", intelligence and analytical company Stratfor believes that the United States is forced to make a number of concessions to Russia.

On Thursday last week, it was reported that Barack Obama proposed Moscow to conclude a new agreement on military cooperation in the fight against terrorism in Syria. The US authorities promised to join forces with the Russian Aerospace Forces for better coordination in the fight against the Dzhebhat al-Nusra militants. What in return? The White House wants Russia to convince Assad to stop bombing the rebels, who are supported by the United States.

Stratfor analysts, who reviewed these initiatives, are convinced that the White House’s proposal is an American attempt to avoid further escalation in Syria. Experts also point out that such a proposal involves the assignment of the White House to the Kremlin in the form of active cooperation with the Russian military, up to the exchange of data on targets. Earlier, Moscow demanded such a concession from the Americans, wanting to put an end to isolation. Earlier, Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter even spoke against such a concession.

US administration officials, noted in the Washington Post, they now claim that they have no choice but to negotiate with Putin. Apparently, the editorial board of the influential newspaper regrets that Mr. Obama is “determined” not to learn from his tragic mistakes in Syria.

You can also assume, we add that the peacemaker Obama suddenly remembered his Nobel Peace Prize. And finally got sick to get involved in the war in Syria. By the end of the presidential career, you can even spit on the budgetary appetites of the military-industrial complex, isn't it? Obama managed to “end up” the war in Syria almost to the end of his term on the throne. In January 2017, he will leave the Oval Office. But the next president will have to disentangle the soup he has cooked with a full spoon. Or the next presidency.

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  1. Teberii
    Teberii 5 July 2016 05: 49
    +8
    The Syrian drag out the process only because if we leave everything will start all over again.
    1. obraztsov
      obraztsov 5 July 2016 07: 57
      +4
      If we leave, I think that Syria is being quickly suppressed with the support of the West and a number of Middle Eastern monarchies.
      I'm sorry that we brought a significant part of the group from there. After all, the initiative was completely on the side of Syria, the offensive was in full swing, and now the situation, in various directions, is either skidding or degrading.
      1. 34 region
        34 region 5 July 2016 09: 00
        +10
        Samples! 07.57. For a long war, resources are needed. Both demographic and economic. The population of Syria is not infinite. She decreases and does not breed like a rabbit. The economy is killed and not even the economy of the Financial International. Therefore, without the external support of Syria is a trumpet. Stop helping Syria? Easy! What will it give? Same as in Libya. Is that all over? Costly for Russia to help Syria? Okay! They threw Syria. Iran will begin. Won't start? And why was he under sanctions? Let him soak? What do we need? And why, in some surprising way, wars go on in countries with oil reserves? Coincidence? But we do not fight in Siberia !? But if countries embraced by chaos will sell oil at 10 cents per barrel, then we will sell at 100 bucks? Maybe then gasoline will become cheaper? Given the percentage of sales of foreign trade in hydrocarbons and the receipt of taxes from these sales, and then payments from these taxes to state employees, then ...!? What will be the consequences?
        1. razmik72
          razmik72 5 July 2016 09: 27
          0
          Quote: 34 region
          Samples! 07.57. For a long war, resources are needed. Both demographic and economic. The population of Syria is not infinite. She decreases and does not breed like a rabbit. The economy is killed and not even the economy of the Financial International. Therefore, without the external support of Syria is a trumpet. Stop helping Syria? Easy! What will it give? Same as in Libya. Is that all over? Costly for Russia to help Syria? Okay! They threw Syria. Iran will begin. Won't start? And why was he under sanctions? Let him soak? What do we need? And why, in some surprising way, wars go on in countries with oil reserves? Coincidence? But we do not fight in Siberia !? But if countries embraced by chaos will sell oil at 10 cents per barrel, then we will sell at 100 bucks? Maybe then gasoline will become cheaper? Given the percentage of sales of foreign trade in hydrocarbons and the receipt of taxes from these sales, and then payments from these taxes to state employees, then ...!? What will be the consequences?

          Syria does not have a lot of oil so that the world price of this raw material depended on it. Here, even sanctions were lifted from Iran and the price of oil, instead of going down, increased.
          1. 34 region
            34 region 5 July 2016 10: 09
            +7
            Razmik 72! 09.27. One twig in a broom does not solve anything. But the bunch, this is power. All countries oil producers are a broom, and each is a twig. Here on a stick these countries and knock down. But then they will be collected in a broom of ISIS. Or ISIS is not capturing territories? And who will collaborate with this broom? And those who are fighting with ISIS. ISIS just does all the dirty work for them. Sanctions were lifted from Iran, but with a number of conditions. Allowed to sell oil to them just like that? And the conditions with the mandatory purchase of Western aircraft is charity? Relieving tension? We already went through this in the 90s. Very well relieved tension! Afghanistan? There is no oil. Organized plantations. Accidentally? It is very convenient to protect and have non-governmental financing of various operations. Plus, undermining the economies of drug users. Guys! No need to fool around. Warrior wow! Your version. Can I find out? Yes, and the version of Razmik is interesting to know. So what are your versions of events? Does everything happen purely by accident?
            1. razmik72
              razmik72 5 July 2016 10: 23
              -4
              Quote: 34 region
              Razmik 72! 09.27. One twig in a broom does not solve anything. But the bunch, this is power. All countries oil producers are a broom, and each is a twig. Here on a stick these countries and knock down. But then they will be collected in a broom of ISIS. Or ISIS is not capturing territories? And who will collaborate with this broom? And those who are fighting with ISIS. ISIS just does all the dirty work for them. Sanctions were lifted from Iran, but with a number of conditions. Allowed to sell oil to them just like that? And the conditions with the mandatory purchase of Western aircraft is charity? Relieving tension? We already went through this in the 90s. Very well relieved tension! Afghanistan? There is no oil. Organized plantations. Accidentally? It is very convenient to protect and have non-governmental financing of various operations. Plus, undermining the economies of drug users. Guys! No need to fool around. Warrior wow! Your version. Can I find out? Yes, and the version of Razmik is interesting to know. So what are your versions of events? Does everything happen purely by accident?

              I don't put forward any conspiracy theories, it's just that the Syrians are tired of the Assads and want to get rid of their annoying rulers, in history this happens all the time. And Iran and Russia intervened in the civil war in order to preserve the power of the Assads. I try on the Syrian situation to my country and me. It will be great if the people of Armenia try to overthrow their "Assad" and some country intervenes in the civil conflict on the side of the government, justifying their actions by the need to stop international terrorism.
              1. nadezhiva
                nadezhiva 5 July 2016 14: 17
                +6
                Quote: razmik72
                I do not put forward any conspiracy theories, just the Syrians are tired of the Assads and want to get rid of their rulers

                This phrase raises more questions than answers. Those. You want to say that the latest election results were fabricated? Where does this information come from?
                There are also "Russians" in Russia who are tired of Putin. So what?
                About
                Quote: razmik72
                Syria does not have a lot of oil so that the world price of this raw material depends on it.

                This (in terms of reserves) is a very controversial issue and far from everything is in the public domain.
                Quote: 34 region
                Afghanistan? No oil. Organized plantations. Accidentally? It is very convenient to protect and have non-governmental financing of various operations.
                That is yes. Megaplantations. And most importantly, everything is under control.
                1. Come on
                  Come on 5 July 2016 21: 21
                  0
                  What elections in Syria or what? 80% of Sunnis in the country, who did not decide much.
                  1. spiolist pas harp
                    spiolist pas harp 5 July 2016 23: 33
                    0
                    belay And the OBS agency told me that there are "slightly less than 40%" of Alawites. Something my numbers do not agree with yours request So, will we * scribble * (strikethrough) sources to be measured? Where from yours will there be firewood? A link to the census (date of census, preferably age-related interest, etc.). Only Vika, please do not bring - do not tell honest people. hi
              2. Lyubopyatov
                Lyubopyatov 5 July 2016 17: 43
                +4
                Unfortunately, the respected razmik72 applies a small-scale template. As a result, an error in judgments accumulates.
        2. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 5 July 2016 09: 28
          +1
          "Why, in some amazing way, are wars going on in countries with oil reserves? Is it a coincidence?" ////

          There is no oil in Afghanistan. Oil reserves in Syria are negligible.
          1. 34 region
            34 region 5 July 2016 10: 14
            +5
            Warrior wow! 09.28. Israel also seems to have no oil. I don’t understand why you are constantly fighting with the Arabs? Can I find out the motives? Is war just like that? From idleness? What do you share with them? Sand?
            1. Revolver
              Revolver 5 July 2016 18: 24
              +4
              Quote: Region 34
              I don’t understand why you are constantly fighting with the Arabs? Can I find out the motives? Is war just like that? From idleness? What do you share with them? Sand?

              Everything is very simple. Israel wants to be, and, moreover, to be on the land of its ancestors. But the Arabs want Israel not to be, or be, but not on the lands that they consider to be theirs, but they consider theirs, in particular, everything between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.
              There is another aspect. According to the teachings of Mohammed, lands that have ever come under the rule of devout Muslims cannot go under the rule of infidels. Therefore, the very existence of Israel is a constant and indelible insult to Islam. Here are the Arabs and are fighting. Until the Arabs accept Israel's existence as an inevitable reality, there will be no peace. As the well-known fitter Mechnikov said, "consent is a product with complete non-resistance of the parties."
              1. bazalt16
                bazalt16 20 July 2016 00: 10
                0
                Mr. Nagan: All those who have been dragged into Israel from Russia and other countries with Lithuanian, Russian, Polish, and other roots in Israel in recent decades have nothing to do with the biblical people of Moses, and the size of the territory that housed the kingdoms of Jerusalem and Judah (the land of the ancestors as you call it) is much smaller than the area of ​​present-day Israel. According to this judgment, you and millions of freedom-loving US citizens need to leave it and leave the land to the indigenous people - the Indians, who were killed and driven into reserves. Jews and Arabs lived in Palestine for millennia, as long as Zionists appeared a little over a hundred years ago and did not begin to expel Palestinian Arabs and gather Jews from all over the world on Mount Zion for the coming of the Messiah. And do not give an example from your favorite Jewish authors. It is better for your American friends or Germans to give Jews land under state Because they are responsible for the Holocaust.
            2. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 20 July 2016 00: 25
              +2
              Yes you? They are fighting over water.
        3. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 5 July 2016 09: 28
          -1
          "Why, in some amazing way, are wars going on in countries with oil reserves? Is it a coincidence?" ////

          There is no oil in Afghanistan. Oil reserves in Syria are negligible.
          1. nadezhiva
            nadezhiva 5 July 2016 14: 29
            +5
            Quote: voyaka uh
            There is no oil in Afghanistan.

            Not the newest, but still
            Afghanistan has essentially turned into a drug state - 93% of all opiates in the world are produced in the country. Since the introduction of the military contingent in the country under the auspices of the United Nations, the volume of the opium crop has grown almost three times. According to the Federal Drug Control Service, only in 2010, the area of ​​planting of opium poppy amounted to 193 thousand hectares, 8,2 tons of raw opium were collected, from which 820 tons of heroin were respectively produced.

            Over the past 10 years, drug production in Afghanistan has grown 40 times. Afghanistan ranks first or second in the world for the production of hash.

            With the start of the US counterterrorism operation in Afghanistan, there was hope for a reduction in the threat of drug expansion from its territory. After the fall of the Taliban regime, opium poppy cultivation has reached an unprecedented level throughout Afghanistan. At the same time, there are practically no reports of liquidation or detection of drug depots and laboratories for their production during the anti-terrorist operation.

            The measures taken by the new Afghan administration and international organizations to reorient the Afghan peasants to grow alternative crops to opium poppy by paying them monetary compensation for each hectare of destroyed drug crops did not lead to the expected results. According to experts, the amount of this compensation is significantly less than the real proceeds from the sale of opium collected from this area. So, growing poppy is almost 30 times more profitable than wheat, and 40 times more than cotton.

            The command of the American troops in Afghanistan states that the fight against drugs in this country is not their task. Despite the fact that the opium fields are approaching close to the NATO bases and stretching for tens of kilometers. The policy of non-interference in the hands of the Americans - as long as NATO does not touch drug trafficking, people are tolerant of the alliance forces.
            Somehow crying
        4. bogdan4ik
          bogdan4ik 6 July 2016 08: 40
          +1
          If Russia abandons Syria, then Gazprom will fly out of Europe in a year. For preventing such a scenario
          Russia will fight to the end, whatever it may be.
      2. Butchcassidy
        Butchcassidy 5 July 2016 09: 14
        -1
        Don’t say it. The situation is very difficult: the economy is in ruin, everyone is tired of the war, Russia or Iran does not have the opportunity to pour colossal funds into the ruined economy of Syria, and Russia has no desire to start the land operation.

        Question - what to do next? very good question ...
      3. atakan
        atakan 6 July 2016 00: 47
        +1
        If we leave, I think that Syria is being quickly suppressed with the support of the West and a number of Middle Eastern monarchies.

        Should we leave? (which is unlikely), then Iran will explode in attempts to keep these lands under control. And the number of Iranian killed generals will tend to infinity (now there are four of them). We began to strain that Iran makes decisions in this war based only on its interests.
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 5 July 2016 06: 03
    +4
    Mr. Dehkan
    highlighted a number of key points

    Indeed it is. But the merikatos do not recognize ANYTHING, and all this is "like fish on ice."
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 5 July 2016 07: 49
      +6
      As for the effectiveness of Russian actions from the air, during the alleged attack of the city, it would be significantly reduced compared with the “active phase of the Russian campaign”. The fact is that airplanes are already working at the limit of the combat range.
      Fucking expert. And this expert, for such crap gets money.
      1. Monarchist
        Monarchist 5 July 2016 08: 03
        0
        Specialist of course Akhovy
  3. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 5 July 2016 06: 17
    +6
    Yes, and another president will come and tighter policies, because they need chaos.
  4. strelets
    strelets 5 July 2016 06: 21
    +3
    How was it written recently? That Russia has no equal in the wait-and-see tactics? Now this is the best tactic. There are not so many resources to spray them to the right and left.
    1. VICTOR-61
      VICTOR-61 5 July 2016 07: 05
      .
      The resources of the people are rightly small. But Shuvalov normally grabbed 10 apartments for 600 million. Plus to the UK and other European countries, has housing and money in the accounts. Navalny revealed it all. That's how our rulers live, in a big way
      1. Sarmat149
        Sarmat149 5 July 2016 07: 20
        +19
        An authoritative person in bulk for you? Why here about him? He is the same as Shuvalov, only from another feeding trough. I put a minus for you for spam.
        1. Riv
          Riv 5 July 2016 07: 41
          +5
          And the dude would have learned to write competently. "great britain" :)
          1. V.ic
            V.ic 5 July 2016 07: 59
            +4
            Quote: Riv
            And the dude would have learned to write competently. "greatиmelting "

            Replacing the letter "and" with the letter "a" we get "great circulation", just the country where all our financial "brothers" grease their heels.
        2. Monarchist
          Monarchist 5 July 2016 08: 09
          0
          Navalny will now be fed in every way, so that the water will muddy. If BB weren’t fish and meat, Bulk saddle would have eaten crackers, and now he’s sitting in a restaurant
        3. razmik72
          razmik72 5 July 2016 09: 38
          +3
          Quote: Sarmat149
          An authoritative person in bulk for you? Why here about him? He is the same as Shuvalov, only from another feeding trough. I put a minus for you for spam.

          For me, no one is an authority, but the data provided by the forum member Victor-61 are, if not completely true, then probably close to the truth. According to official figures, the wife of the venerable Mr. Shuvalov is a dollar billionaire, so if Shuvalov has one or two apartments are smaller than in reality, the general picture is that Mr. Shuvalov and especially his wife do not live in poverty. The site often recalls the acts of Comrade Stalin. He probably would not have kept such dirt next to him as your infallible GDP does.
          1. vlad66
            vlad66 5 July 2016 11: 46
            +10
            Quote: razmik72
            For me no one is authority

            You know, dear, for us, too, no one is an authority, we also know what kind of beetle Shuvalov, Dvorkovich and K 'are. But we also know who Navalny is, they feed only from different troughs, and the eggs are the same, only a side view, and dear let's in the end we will not breed srach on branches off topic, with all the sympathies it hesitated. hi
          2. Andrew67
            Andrew67 5 July 2016 23: 29
            +1
            We were on Lake Ritsa, at Stalin's dacha. After examining the chambers of Joseph Vissarionovich, I ask the guide: What changed in the interior? The guide replies that everything is preserved in its original form. I was stunned, here, probably, the reclusive monk lived, I say out loud. And someone from the group adds: to see the current masters of life and learn how the Tsar 1/6 of the Planet lived ascetic .Something like this
            1. PHANTOM-AS
              PHANTOM-AS 6 July 2016 00: 00
              +1
              Quote: Andrew67
              We were on Lake Ritsa, at Stalin's dacha

              Quote: Andrew67
              to the current masters of life, to see and learn how the Tsar 1/6 of the Planet lived ascetic

              The current ones eat three throats and have yachts the size of a dozen summer houses of Joseph Vissarionovich.
              And whatever you say, but the power in the Russian Federation is now anti-people.
              But the ideological Bolsheviks lived and died for the sake of popular power, for the prosperity of the Soviet Motherland, without special preferences and accounts in Alpine banks, their children did not study in London, but fought on the fronts of the Great Patriotic War.
              Then there were Atlanta people, and now there are rogue dwarfs
      2. vlad66
        vlad66 5 July 2016 07: 44
        +10
        Quote: VICTOR-61
        .Discovered all of this Bulk

        Anal friend of yours? Then why do you call his superiors:
        Quote: VICTOR-61
        mattresses

        Yourself, my dear contradict, and with such "friends" you got to the wrong site. But on the topic of the article, do you have something to say? Or are you throwing slogans here before the elections and throwing a flood? - for a flood.
      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 5 July 2016 07: 50
        +8
        Quote: VICTOR-61
        .Discovered all of this Bulk

        Leshka Anal, oh well done. Vote for him, a crystal soul man lol
        You write about yourself -
        He writes about himself: I don’t work, like a military review And rightly so, horses die from work. Yes, and it’s more interesting to count Shuvalov’s money.
        1. Monarchist
          Monarchist 5 July 2016 08: 12
          -2
          Field Marshal, fast, I do not agree with you: which crystal can be of which?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 5 July 2016 08: 21
            +5
            Quote: Monarchist
            : which crystal can be of which?

            I read this question three times. I understood that I could not answer it. lol
        2. razmik72
          razmik72 5 July 2016 09: 45
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: VICTOR-61
          .Discovered all of this Bulk

          Leshka Anal, oh well done. Vote for him, a crystal soul man lol
          You write about yourself -
          He writes about himself: I don’t work, like a military review And rightly so, horses die from work. Yes, and it’s more interesting to count Shuvalov’s money.

          Alexander, Mr. Shuvalov is not a businessman and it is not shameful to count his money, if anything. So was his wife Elena Baturina, who was a great businesswoman under Luzhkov, and where is his wife's business now? The bar should not rob the country under cover, and the "servants" do not even have the right to utter a word, what are you, how can you.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 5 July 2016 09: 54
            +3
            Quote: razmik72
            Alexander, Mr. Shuvalov is not a businessman and it is not shameful to consider his money, if that.

            I'm not interested in how much he earns.
            Quote: razmik72
            .An equally great business woman under Luzhkov was his wife Elena Baturina, and where is his wife’s business now?

            Ah Luzhkov, I remember, I remember. This is the same Mr. Luzhkov, the former mayor of Moscow, and now stands for the Communist Party. He is for the Communist Party now, now he is for the people
            1. razmik72
              razmik72 5 July 2016 10: 09
              -3
              If you are not interested in where his wife has billions from, then I’m sure that many Russians will be interested in curiosity, especially if his affairs are getting worse and worse.
              1. vlad66
                vlad66 5 July 2016 12: 08
                +11
                Quote: razmik72
                , then I’m sure that many Russians will be interested, a person is curious

                You know, dear in Russia, it is generally accepted not to poke your nose into someone else's wallet, they will misunderstand, I do not defend the Shuvalovs, Luzhkovs and other fraternity, but reading comments from such "curious" people is simply disgusting, watch your wallet better, the money will be more whole.
                1. razmik72
                  razmik72 5 July 2016 12: 27
                  -2
                  Quote: vlad66
                  Quote: razmik72
                  , then I’m sure that many Russians will be interested, a person is curious

                  You know, dear in Russia, it is generally accepted not to poke your nose into someone else's wallet, they will misunderstand, I do not defend the Shuvalovs, Luzhkovs and other fraternity, but reading comments from such "curious" people is simply disgusting, watch your wallet better, the money will be more whole.

                  And what do you do on the site if you don’t defend the interests of the large Russian kleptocracy, which always confuses its pocket with the state’s. I don’t count the money of pure businessmen, but I consider it a sin not to see the wild situation that has developed in almost the entire post-Soviet space, when the best one ” a businessman "is a wife or son-in-law, or son, or daughter, or brother, etc. some official.
                  1. vlad66
                    vlad66 5 July 2016 16: 36
                    +7
                    Quote: razmik72
                    And what do you do on the site, if you do not protect the interests of the Russian large kleptocracy,

                    Listen, dear razmik72, I protect the interests of first of all my family, my children and grandchildren, I do not care about the interests of my Homeland-Russia, but I absolutely do not care how much Shuvalov, Putin, Sargsyan or Obama get there and I do not need to say who then there’s so much and how much, I repeat for the uncomprehending, Shit. (I apologize to everyone) I only care about the money in our family pocket, dear, and I haven’t been accustomed to counting someone else’s money in someone else’s pocket since this. secondly. You call to the Maidan, so arrange them at home, and not in my house. am
                    1. Andrew67
                      Andrew67 5 July 2016 23: 47
                      +2
                      Vlad, the conversation is not about who earns how much, do not confuse, but about how much they steal from me from your family at all
                  2. Andrew67
                    Andrew67 5 July 2016 23: 44
                    +3
                    Completely "For" Never count who earned how much. Who with hands, who with brains, who else could do anything. This is a master's business, respect and respect. But when a thief from the state is our money, why not count it
                2. Come on
                  Come on 5 July 2016 21: 29
                  +3
                  Quote: vlad66
                  You know, the cutest in Russia, it’s generally customary not to poke your nose into someone else’s wallet


                  That’s why it’s interesting for adequate people, but from where does the OFFICER Shuvalov have billions and estates in the west? Is it because, because he stuffed his nose into someone's purses?
              2. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 5 July 2016 13: 41
                +1
                Quote: razmik72
                , then I’m sure that many Russians will be interested, a person is curious, especially if his affairs are going worse and worse.

                We feed many, including Armenia.
                1. razmik72
                  razmik72 5 July 2016 14: 02
                  0
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Quote: razmik72
                  , then I’m sure that many Russians will be interested, a person is curious, especially if his affairs are going worse and worse.

                  We feed many, including Armenia.

                  Well, of course, how did I forget that if a little something, if a discussion of a question or topic on the VO website goes beyond the intended scenario, then picks on the personality and nationality of the member of the forum immediately begin. With your answer about feeding Armenia, you seek a refutation from my side, which I will not do, I will just say that either the feed is not for the horse, or the feed is not the same, with good "feeding" no one leaves the country en masse.
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 5 July 2016 14: 05
                    -1
                    Quote: razmik72
                    By your answer about feeding Armenia you are trying to get a refutation on my part, which I will not do, I will just say that either the feed is not for the horse, or the feed is wrong, with good "feeding" no one leaves the country en masse.

                    Listen, sit your money count, tired already.
                    1. razmik72
                      razmik72 5 July 2016 14: 19
                      +4
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Quote: razmik72
                      By your answer about feeding Armenia you are trying to get a refutation on my part, which I will not do, I will just say that either the feed is not for the horse, or the feed is wrong, with good "feeding" no one leaves the country en masse.

                      Listen, sit your money count, tired already.

                      Essentially there is nothing to answer, so you have to insult and jerk a person. And if in modern Russia it is considered shameful and indecent to receive information about the state purse of government officials, then excuse me request, I should not have raised this topic.
    2. zaboyschik
      zaboyschik 5 July 2016 07: 31
      +1
      Yeah, in the Donbass it is quite obvious what this tactic led to (((
  5. romex1
    romex1 5 July 2016 06: 25
    +4
    Quote: Teberii
    The Syrian drag out the process only because if we leave everything will start all over again.


    we cannot leave, otherwise we will lose our bases. But it's worth thinking about what to do next. Let's stop (as now) - the division of Syria into zones of influence and the strengthening of the positions of the "moderates" (read the USA), then let's go - the babakhs will knock out the entire Syrian army along with the guards. there is no inflow of reserves to Syria on our side, and ISIS attracts mercenaries every day. Most of the men of combat-ready age from Syria, German women and Swedes are raped. Where do the reserves come from?
    1. razmik72
      razmik72 5 July 2016 09: 49
      +1
      Quote: romex1
      Quote: Teberii
      The Syrian drag out the process only because if we leave everything will start all over again.


      we cannot leave, otherwise we will lose our bases. But it's worth thinking about what to do next. Let's stop (as now) - the division of Syria into zones of influence and the strengthening of the positions of the "moderates" (read the USA), then let's go - the babakhs will knock out the entire Syrian army along with the guards. there is no inflow of reserves to Syria on our side, and ISIS attracts mercenaries every day. Most of the men of combat-ready age from Syria, German women and Swedes are raped. Where do the reserves come from?

      Well, these "courageous Arabs" do not get off the German and Swedish women.
  6. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 5 July 2016 06: 29
    +10
    It seems to me that the Syrians and Iranians expect that Moscow will do all the military work itself? All this has been going on since Soviet times, they think that an uncle with dough and military equipment will come and decide everything.
    1. zaboyschik
      zaboyschik 5 July 2016 07: 33
      -5
      You are sick, and in the Donbass they want the poor to make you fight, and now in Syria. And comments like tracing paper, I’ve read all this more than once. Are you real or just bots?
    2. 34 region
      34 region 5 July 2016 09: 23
      0
      06.29. And do their people breed like rabbits? Uncle Sam came to them with dough and military equipment and decided everything for them. Like it or not, but here the size matters. And the point here is not in combat work. The most successful war is the one that has not begun. If you joined the battle, you already lost. You can certainly argue on this topic, but it is.
  7. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 5 July 2016 06: 37
    +1
    Recently, some Iranian media even criticized Russia’s position: supposedly Moscow has recently not conducted such active military operations in Syria as before.

    Quite the guys were feeling sorry ..) Maybe a couple of airborne brigades can be sent there, cleaned up the whole country and say - Eat to your health ..)
    Apparently, the local population does not care who they should be under, if only they would not be touched.
    B. Assad is a forced ally who is far from an angel. The local population is so clogged that they can’t protect their houses with weapons in their hands, it’s easier for them to escape. Therefore, they can not finish the whole chantrap.
    Russia pursues its own interests and this is done correctly.
    It is difficult to say what the future will be for Syria.
    1. zaboyschik
      zaboyschik 5 July 2016 07: 35
      .
      And in the Donbass, the people with weapons in their hands do not let someone free their land (((Who could it be? You’ll climb in everywhere and don’t finish it everywhere, ugh on you (((
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 5 July 2016 07: 52
        +4
        Quote: zaboyschik
        And in the Donbass, the people with weapons in their hands do not let someone free their land (((

        Oh yes, it's taxi drivers and miners who drove the APU into two boilers.
        1. zaboyschik
          zaboyschik 5 July 2016 17: 49
          +1
          I have been there both times, and I am a fourth-generation miner, as well as 142 muzzles from my company.
      2. hrapon
        hrapon 5 July 2016 08: 06
        +5
        Quote: zaboyschik
        "...... You will fit in everywhere and you won't finish it everywhere, ugh on you ((("




        I cannot disagree. Not before. They did not finish off the Bandera fosterlings in the 50s. Therefore, there are so many "unfinished" things wandering around the ruin ...
      3. Monarchist
        Monarchist 5 July 2016 08: 16
        0
        Petty Officer, what interests are closer to you?
        1. zaboyschik
          zaboyschik 5 July 2016 17: 55
          -2
          If this is you, then I probably meant whose interests? Of course, the people of Donbass, them and only them. If in order to stop shelling the Donbass it is necessary that the Russians have eaten one millet for twenty years, I am only for !!! But you are all just in the words of patriots and are not ready to refuse anything. Write a maximum of a dozen comments)))
          1. Garris199
            Garris199 6 July 2016 02: 59
            0
            Quote: zaboyschik
            it is necessary that the Russians for twenty years ate one millet I only for !!!

            As everything is simple with you, millet was eaten and everything returned to normal. Here it will not cost one millet.
    2. 34 region
      34 region 5 July 2016 09: 35
      +5
      Reconnaissance in battle! 06.37. What does the Airborne Forces have to do with it? The local population does not care who to be under. The question of demography and the balance of power can be taken into account? Is it easier to run away? And if you look in the mirror? Why do we want to certainly join the Western economy? Maybe they should join Russia? Such a question did not arise? What is chantrap? If they protect her, then she’s a tool, and it’s not by chance that they are there. Russia is pursuing its own interests. And where should she go if oil has fallen in price? Scenario Iraq, Libya, Ukraine? Which one do you like? The fate of Syria is the fate of Russia. What happens to her will happen to Russia. We will not fight there, we will fight here. No other is given.
      1. razmik72
        razmik72 5 July 2016 10: 46
        +4
        Quote: 34 region
        Reconnaissance in battle! 06.37. What does the Airborne Forces have to do with it? The local population does not care who to be under. The question of demography and the balance of power can be taken into account? Is it easier to run away? And if you look in the mirror? Why do we want to certainly join the Western economy? Maybe they should join Russia? Such a question did not arise? What is chantrap? If they protect her, then she’s a tool, and it’s not by chance that they are there. Russia is pursuing its own interests. And where should she go if oil has fallen in price? Scenario Iraq, Libya, Ukraine? Which one do you like? The fate of Syria is the fate of Russia. What happens to her will happen to Russia. We will not fight there, we will fight here. No other is given.

        Pretty bold suggestion:
        "Why do we want to definitely join the Western economy? Maybe it is better for them to join Russia?"
        In order for Western countries to join Russia, Russia must be attractive economically, politically and socially. How can Russia attract other countries, besides military parades, shouts "we can repeat", "Obama is not a good person", "To Berlin," etc. .d.
      2. Razvedka_Boem
        Razvedka_Boem 5 July 2016 16: 38
        +1
        What are you talking about now? You re-read my comment first, without emotion, then write.
        I wrote about the airborne forces with irony, if you did not understand this.
        In the mirror I see myself. If we have something like this, I’m not going to run away, don’t worry.
        Why join Russia?
        Shantrapa is all these imperfections, which, as you put it, “cover”.
        Where to put oil? There are places.
        The fate of Syria, this is not the fate of Russia. The interests of Russia and the West clashed there. To yield there would be to lose the whole game.
        The future of Syria, I repeat once again, has not yet been determined. And it will be divided, it will not .. It will be as beneficial to Russia, not Syria.
  8. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 5 July 2016 06: 40
    +4
    In general, everything is true, everyone wants to go on someone else's hump, and there is no doubt that Syria is being torn, Assad is difficult and without us he is a political corpse.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 5 July 2016 10: 10
      +3
      Quote: avg-mgn
      Assad is difficult and without us he is a political corpse.

      Rather - biological, like Gaddafi, left alone against all. "... this scheme is simple" (c)
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 July 2016 06: 58
    +3
    believe that a ceasefire will help regroup militants,

    From a tactical point of view, they (the Syrians, Iranians) are certainly right. But what strategic tasks Russia sets apart from the fight against terrorism are not known to the average man.
    1. zaboyschik
      zaboyschik 5 July 2016 07: 36
      -6
      Well, yes, philistine children are invited to simply die in the Donbass for the sake of strategic objectives, and ugh (((
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 5 July 2016 07: 53
        0
        Quote: zaboyschik
        Well, yes, philistine children are invited to simply die in the Donbas for the sake of strategic objectives, and ugh (

        Putin leaked Donbass wink For fie like you
        1. Velizariy
          Velizariy 5 July 2016 11: 41
          +1
          For such putinsilov and tfukalok this is not an arugment! You’re lying here! miners with taxi drivers themselves defeated APU against Ilovaysk and Debaltseve in spite of Putin!
          They are just stupid ... and sometimes simple editors.
          1. zaboyschik
            zaboyschik 5 July 2016 18: 08
            +1
            I am a miner, a slayer of the sixth category and in the militia with the 3 of March 2014, ugh on you again)))
        2. zaboyschik
          zaboyschik 5 July 2016 18: 07
          +2
          Yeah, why didn’t the children of the Antratsitovsky district hear anything about this? But I saw with my own eyes how in Lugansk after we were forced to surrender our weapons and leave, your proteges fired into the air driving hungry women away from the humanitarian aid. We shot drug dealers, and then they began to kill us and the dealers became in power. Any local will tell you this, this is the purest uncomplicated truth. They removed the ideological and the right because they were naughty, but who did they attract? Who's come? Of course the criminals !!!
  10. parusnik
    parusnik 5 July 2016 07: 11
    +3
    Barack Obama invited Moscow to conclude a new agreement on military cooperation in the fight against terrorism in Syria.... The Americans ... all the agreements in words .. in which case, but we did not say this, we misunderstood ...
  11. voronbel53
    voronbel53 5 July 2016 07: 37
    +1
    If you took the tug, do not say that not a dozen. Ours should continue to help Assad - how much can this truce be extended? And so it is already known who the enemy, who is the opposition, will not settle down by itself. Delaying the war, giving the terrorists a respite, does not bode well for us nor, especially, Assad’s troops. We only need a victory and to share it, in my opinion, it is not worthwhile to think with the Americans (when and to whom did they somehow help?) - they are not our helpers and not allies, each has his own goals and we need to rely only on our own strength. Victory in Syria is a matter of honor and prestige of our country and the videoconferencing, in particular, it is impossible to lose or give the initiative to the Americans or some kind of opposition ...
  12. Wolka
    Wolka 5 July 2016 07: 45
    -1
    war is an expensive business and every shell, a racket of money is not small, diplomacy is also a weapon, but it costs a little cheaper, and the result can even be very stunning, when both levers are used, the effect is unambiguous, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation has proved this, therefore it is reckless and stupid to throw shells and missiles to please the mercantile interests of groups from the government and from the "opposition". Russia, too, is not infinite and is not endless in military resources and cannot be drawn into a long-playing war (they themselves barely got up from their knees), a truce is not a respite for daesh thugs, it is a tactical technique with a clearly defined strategic focus in general, and this must be understood .. ., otherwise, the Middle East will face another Iraq and not one more "desert storm" ...
  13. avva2012
    avva2012 5 July 2016 07: 59
    +6
    The main trends:
    1. The war in Syria does not promise a speedy achievement of peace, and the hostilities will certainly continue in 2017. Illusions that the year 2016 will bring peace to Syria have irrevocably vanished. The Vienna process in the form in which it was conceived last year apparently did not work.
    2. The war in Syria was finally internationalized without regard to international law and national sovereignty. Various groupings of countries are taking sides in the Syrian civil war and are not able to end the war diplomatically, trying against the backdrop of a political impasse, to improve their positions and the positions of their wards by military means, providing them with weapons, specialists, aviation and other resources aimed at increasing fighting capacity of warring parties.
    3. Due to the fact that large states or even entire military blocs are behind all forces (except for the Caliphate), there is a kind of strategic parity when, at the local level, the parties can achieve certain victories or suffer various failures, but the military-political insurance provided by large players (USA, Russia, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iran, NATO countries) make it difficult to defeat one of the parties.
    4. Due to the fact that the Russian and American coalitions indirectly fight among themselves (at the hands of the SAA, Hezbollah and terrorist organizations sponsored by the Americans), as well as continue to fight the Caliphate, the bizarre trilateral configuration of this war will continue. Due to unavoidable strategic contradictions between the USA and the Russian Federation, a truce between them can only be temporary-tactical in nature. They cannot give lasting peace.
    5. Despite optimistic statements by politicians and the military in the spring of 2016, the Caliphate turned out to be more stable militarily than relied on in bravura propaganda statements about the victory over the Caliphate and the soon capture of its capital. It can still be stated that there is a serious underestimation of the military capabilities of the Caliphate and the stability of its state structures in the controlled territories. This leads to the fact that even operations supported by the US and Russian armed forces do not always succeed. I believe that the unsuccessful attacks on Racca from the north and southwest will give the American and Russian military a lot of food for thought.
    6. Against the backdrop of the political impasse in Syria and the lack of decisive military victories in the Syrian war, the Kurdish factor, supported by the United States and NATO countries, continues to gain strength. The Kurds, albeit slowly and slowly, are moving towards the solution of the issue of control over the entire Syrian-Turkish border, which will allow them to intensify the processes of building national autonomy or even a sovereign state at the expense of the territories of Syria, Turkey and Iraq. On the one hand, this testifies to the complete defeat of the Turkish strategy of recent years in Northern Syria, and on the other hand creates long-term problems for Assad if the option with the federalization of Syria is not implemented, as this can lead either to the collapse of Syria within its current borders, or to the Syrian war with the Kurds, where the option of a situational alliance between Assad and Erdogan on the basis of rejection of the Kurdish state project at the expense of Syria and Turkey is not ruled out.
    More details on the fronts of Syria for the month of June: http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/
    The military situation in Syria on 03.07.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX
  14. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 5 July 2016 08: 47
    +3
    Again we came to a patchwork map called "dragon teeth" - two or even three Syria (sectors) - Alawite-Shiite and Christian Assad, Sunni (USA, KSA, Qatar, etc.) and Kurdish (USA, West, Israel...). I already wrote earlier that the States put two mares at once, the Russian Federation and Iran on a lame nag? Of course, you can shout at the top of your lungs that the Americans are “cheating at the races,” but that doesn't make it any easier, especially at the front! The eternal Russian question arises: "What to do"? For the "balance" 2: 1 clearly leans towards the American side and everyone understands this, but
    IF YOU SIT TO PLAY CARDS WITH SCHULER, then you yourself should be able to defame ?! Or, an even more experienced "master", practically a magician, should play with you against one sharper! Need to find this "magician"! I would suggest ... CHINA become this master, inviting the PLA to its "team" (coalition) "to join the fight against international terrorism, Uyghur separatism and other world challenges - let the Chinese pilots" practice "bombing ISIS, and the tankers on the Chinese tanks will fight (run in) in real BOs A good school of courage and combat experience will not interfere with the Chinese special forces and artillerymen! Good luck to all of us!
    1. 34 region
      34 region 5 July 2016 09: 53
      0
      KudrevKN! 08.47. The question is of course interesting. That's just not in the armed forces. The matter is deeper. The point is economic mechanisms. You have to beat them. This is where we need to train. And here we are wimps specifically. We are inferior to China in this regard. How do we bomb the West with our goods and investments? Why is our guide not training on cats? What economic offensive to the West was carried out by our economic marshals? But the calls to sell everything are full. Is it surrender or offensive? NATO exercises, is it surrender or a threat? How many proposals did we receive to join Russia?
    2. razmik72
      razmik72 5 July 2016 10: 02
      +2
      Quote: KudrevKN
      Again we came to a patchwork map called "dragon teeth" - two or even three Syria (sectors) - Alawite-Shiite and Christian Assad, Sunni (USA, KSA, Qatar, etc.) and Kurdish (USA, West, Israel...). I already wrote earlier that the States put two mares at once, the Russian Federation and Iran on a lame nag? Of course, you can shout at the top of your lungs that the Americans are “cheating at the races,” but that doesn't make it any easier, especially at the front! The eternal Russian question arises: "What to do"? For the "balance" 2: 1 clearly leans towards the American side and everyone understands this, but
      IF YOU SIT TO PLAY CARDS WITH SCHULER, then you yourself should be able to defame ?! Or, an even more experienced "master", practically a magician, should play with you against one sharper! Need to find this "magician"! I would suggest ... CHINA become this master, inviting the PLA to its "team" (coalition) "to join the fight against international terrorism, Uyghur separatism and other world challenges - let the Chinese pilots" practice "bombing ISIS, and the tankers on the Chinese tanks will fight (run in) in real BOs A good school of courage and combat experience will not interfere with the Chinese special forces and artillerymen! Good luck to all of us!

      The Chinese are not crazy to get into this mess called Syria. I was especially touched by your proposal about the profitability of the Chinese side's intervention in order to "train" their army wassat , bully .
      1. Kudrevkn
        Kudrevkn 5 July 2016 16: 27
        0
        I am very glad that you liked it! I believe that the Chinese will also appreciate my naval humor! Yes, and grandmother Wang something there "about the Chinese armies near Baghdad, winning hordes of barmaley" said? Or not?
  15. dojjdik
    dojjdik 5 July 2016 09: 33
    0
    Well, so the Koreans throw 50 thousandth corps into Syria once they spit and they will not notice the loss, but what kind of expert is this bhadrakumar? whether the conserved albertik or the straw of their telaviva is really not; Dehkan says correctly about the ceasefire-this current is in the hands of mercenaries
    1. cherina
      cherina 7 July 2016 00: 28
      -1
      Quote: dojjdik
      Well, so the Koreans throw 50 thousandth corps into Syria once they spit and they will not notice the loss, but what kind of expert is this bhadrakumar? whether the conserved albertik or the straw of their telaviva is really not; Dehkan says correctly about the ceasefire-this current is in the hands of mercenaries

      You reappeared a small Palestinian friend, a lover of big cigars, waging your unequal struggle against Zionism
  16. Lord blacwood
    Lord blacwood 5 July 2016 12: 10
    +1
    Iran is not a friend of the Russian Federation, and this is clear at first sight. The Iranians are pursuing their goals in this war, and will soon become our competitors. Well, at the expense of the ceasefire, the Iranians are right, as the mercenaries will rest and go on the offensive again.
  17. Tsoy
    Tsoy 5 July 2016 12: 26
    0
    MK Bhadrakumar ... in the world that experts and journalists nonindus not left? Madjmudrar or whatever it is, a military expert, now a lover of elephants has appeared in politics ...
  18. Des10
    Des10 5 July 2016 12: 48
    0
    What is the enthusiasm?
    70% of Sunnis, approximately 16 Alawites and + Christians, Kurds.
    Those. support for Hezbollah, Iran and the Russian Federation - those "bayonets" that Assad is holding on to.
    There is only one enthusiasm - they will slaughter all non-Sunnis and loyal Assad.
  19. nikon7717
    nikon7717 5 July 2016 13: 27
    -1
    Why so? Yes, because, from the point of view of Russia, cooperation with the United States offers a tempting prospect for opening a broader dialogue with Washington. Moscow wants to ease the tension between the two states.
    The latest news, however, suggests that it is not Russia that is making concessions to the United States, but vice versa. Moreover, the source of this opinion is the brain trust "Stratfor".

    Moscow’s goals are similar, but the message is different. She continues to accumulate strength and it is necessary to leave this hot spot for the next US)) A decisive and quick completion of the Russian Federation is not profitable. The Russian Federation has shown everyone how quickly it can decide, but let this ulcer distract US forces for now. And the Russian Federation selects friends. while all the old ones will depart from the USA)) This is not a task for one season.
  20. alicante11
    alicante11 5 July 2016 14: 29
    0
    The situation in Syria, IMHO, is as simple as a Siberian felt boot. Since Russia fit in for Assad, Syria still had to be de facto divided into 2 parts - government (under the auspices of Iran and the Russian Federation) and Kurdish (under the auspices of the United States and NATO). And now there is a process of establishing boundaries. All other players like the Turks and the Saudis were left with a nose, and some even without. If Iran wanted to fight in Syria, it would be the first to deploy its troops and air force there. And not limited to light infantry. Of course, no one asks Assad's views. God grant that his and other Syrians' interests were taken into account. The attack on Raqqa was an indicative threat to the Amers. And after the Americans backed down, the offensive was curtailed very quickly. If there was an attack, there would be a large number of destroyed equipment and human casualties. That the ISIS members would not fail to ruffle the whole world. But the Syrians did not suffer losses in "commercial quantities", and, therefore, did not suffer defeat.
  21. Mengad
    Mengad 5 July 2016 20: 30
    0
    Be kinder to each other smile Smile
  22. kotuk_ha_oxote
    kotuk_ha_oxote 5 July 2016 20: 50
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Moscow’s goals are similar, but the message is different. She continues to accumulate strength and it is necessary to leave this hot spot for the next US)) A decisive and quick completion of the Russian Federation is not profitable. The Russian Federation has shown everyone how quickly it can decide, but let this ulcer distract US forces for now. And the Russian Federation selects friends. while all the old ones will depart from the USA)) This is not a task for one season.

    Who and where did Russia pick up, can I clarify? Ahhhhhhhh! I guessed: we are now good friends with the Turks, and in Ukraine we have partners ... So we win!