Media: Ukrainian Navy refused to accept new armored boats "Gyurza-M" due to numerous shortcomings

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Two new armored boats “Gyurza-M”, which have been undergoing tests at the Odessa ship repair plant for about 8 months, were not accepted by the Ukrainian Navy due to numerous manufacturing flaws, the resource reports The Duma with reference to the source.



It was planned to transfer the boats to the military for the Day of the Naval Forces of Ukraine, which is celebrated on July 30.

“Unfortunately, during the tests and firing, numerous flaws were discovered in the design of the armored boats, so the fleet cannot accept them into operation in this form. Now the tests are suspended to eliminate the miscalculations, ”the source told the publication.

“The boats today (July 2) stood on the 19 berth of the naval station, but the signs with their names were closed with a piece of cloth. According to our data, the armored U-174 will be called "Berdyansk", and the U-175 - "Akkerman", “- writes a resource.

Although the acceptance of boats is postponed, however, the ceremony of naming them will take place, as it was supposed earlier, on the day the Navy of Ukraine with the participation of Poroshenko, is specified in the publication.

The publication reminds that in April, at the Leninskaya smithy, 4 armored boats of the same project (58155) were laid.
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  1. +25
    3 July 2016 12: 04
    Shaw, again, zrada ?! laughing
    1. +18
      3 July 2016 12: 12
      Zrada splendid .. Can anyone explain what and how can be tested for 8 months on shells with a displacement of 30 tons? It seems that the "testers" of women of easy virtue ride these conditionally armored boats for public money.
      Although, given that these dishes were built for three years, then everything is possible. Some Ukrainians are leisurely, well, purely Estonians smile
      1. +2
        3 July 2016 12: 21
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        what and how can be tested for 8 months on shells with a displacement of 30 tons?

        - And what else did they want to get from the dying economically and politically "nenki"? Just look, in a year the Indian pies will be glad!
        1. +26
          3 July 2016 12: 41
          Balloon Suppliers Summed Up laughing
          1. +7
            3 July 2016 15: 53
            Quote: Thrall
            Balloon Suppliers Summed Up laughing
          2. +1
            4 July 2016 09: 07
            Don't fire off the theme, the balls are part of the Stealth configuration for the Black Sea region. For Africa and the tropics, palm leaves are provided, for the Arctic - ice (disguised as an iceberg)
            1. +2
              4 July 2016 15: 16
              Not at all!
              Balls are needed to change the voice.
              On a pimple head - a balaclava, a couple of breaths from a ball and poachers in a matuguellnik: stop the move, get ready for inspection.
              Since there is nothing else, the poachers cannot be penetrated (otherwise they themselves will "fill" them with RPGs) - so they make them laugh like that, and then there is hysteria and coma ... What no, but "fight" ...
              Yet again. from the shore, the authorities know better through binoculars where the mattress is (blown away by the wind), and where is the "formidable combat unit."
      2. +3
        3 July 2016 12: 26
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        Zrada splendid .. Can anyone explain what and how can be tested for 8 months on shells with a displacement of 30 tons? It seems that the "testers" of women of easy virtue ride these conditionally armored boats for public money.
        Although, given that these dishes were built for three years, then everything is possible. Some Ukrainians are leisurely, well, purely Estonians smile

        By the way "Leninskaya Kuznitsa" belongs to parashkin.
        1. +1
          3 July 2016 15: 55
          Not order, but where is decommunization? belay
      3. +7
        3 July 2016 17: 19
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        what and how can be tested for 8 months on shells with a displacement of 30 tons?

        Navy - we will not sail on this coffin.
        "Forge" - you are crazy, we are from Poroshenko.
        Navy - yes even from the pope, dumb.
        "Forge" - we will complain about you, they will declare you zradniki and shut you down.
        And so already 8 months. smile
      4. 0
        4 July 2016 09: 04
        The sailors tried in vain to find modern equipment, weapons, and Caliber missiles on the boats.
    2. 0
      3 July 2016 12: 15
      not a zrada, they won’t need boats now, now besides the damned matskals they’ll have to fight with aliens.
      the collider "opened the portal".
      MOSCOW, July 3 - RIA News. The large hadron collider, located in the CERN (European Organization for Nuclear Research) laboratory of high-energy physics, again surprised and made scientists and ordinary people worry, writes The Sun.

      At the time when the next experiment was conducted, the sky above the scientific laboratory changed color, becoming crimson, a strong whirlwind rose from the clouds.
      Lovers of the supernatural suggested that a portal to another dimension opened in the sky over Switzerland.
      Scientists reassured the public, explaining that an unusual natural phenomenon was the result of an experiment in which an attempt was made to collect microparticles together.
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    3. 0
      3 July 2016 12: 17
      What picture is not inserted?
      [image=https://img.rt.com/files/2016.07/original/5777938dc361886a308b458f.jpg]
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    4. -1
      3 July 2016 12: 19
      damn horseradish tags make out
      [image]https://img.rt.com/files/2016.07/original/5777938dc361886a308b458f.jpg[/i
      mage]
    5. +2
      3 July 2016 12: 22
      I am certainly not a sailor, but the vessels seem to be of little use for the sea. Maybe they are of course under the sea and are not imprisoned, but why are they great ukram? Caspian, Amur, any river flotilla, their place of service. Of course, if "modified with a file." By the way, what are they armed with? It looks like a module with a 30mm cannon. Is there any air defense? Judging by the antennas, there is not a lot of air defense. Have the arrows for the crew. Well, a couple of grains I suppose. A little too weak for a 30 ton steamer.
      1. +5
        3 July 2016 12: 33
        Let them "weld to the pier .." and take pictures for the report!
      2. +1
        3 July 2016 12: 58
        So, in fact, I wanted to ask a question to specialists: why does the Navy include this armored boat (we don’t take border guards into account), because its value as a military unit of the Navy is practically zero?
        1. +3
          3 July 2016 14: 01
          Quote: lis-ik
          So, in fact, I wanted to ask a question to specialists: why does the Navy include this armored boat (we don’t take border guards into account), because its value as a military unit of the Navy is practically zero?

          And if in Azov? That's it.
        2. +1
          3 July 2016 22: 12
          Quote: lis-ik
          So, in fact, I wanted to ask a question to specialists: why does the Navy include this armored boat (we don’t take border guards into account), because its value as a military unit of the Navy is practically zero?

          You don’t have to be a specialist to understand that it’s not easy to solve problems in the near coastal zone with frigates and destroyers.
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      4. +5
        3 July 2016 13: 29
        Quote: Mitek
        Caspian Sea, Amur, any river flotilla is their place of service.

        The Sea of ​​Azov is ... Dniester again ...
      5. +2
        4 July 2016 15: 51
        I'm afraid I’m upset, but in the Caspian Sea and (especially) on the Amur, they have nothing to do, to storm them - nonsense, curl on the first wave ...
        With such "sweep", the maximum is floodplain, the river is small.
    6. +1
      3 July 2016 12: 56
      One hand cooked gyurzy and patches)))
    7. +3
      3 July 2016 13: 09
      Quote: aszzz888
      Shaw, again, zrada ?!

      ----------------------

      They follow the "democratic" path of the unfinished Zumwalt and F-35. All perfectly. good
      1. Alf
        +3
        3 July 2016 15: 00
        Quote: Altona
        They follow the "democratic" path of the unfinished Zumwalt and F-35. All perfectly

        Only the pipe is lower and the smoke is thinner.
    8. +1
      3 July 2016 13: 56
      Quote: aszzz888
      Shaw, again, zrada ?! laughing

      If. Also an ambush. They drank the loot, drank it, and now do the work for free.
    9. +1
      3 July 2016 14: 20
      The circus didn’t leave, the clowns are working, but something funny is not enough for the Ukrainian defense industry. Apparently at the time it was no longer a circus, but a graveyard on the ruins of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex.
    10. 0
      3 July 2016 14: 47
      Quote: aszzz888
      Shaw, again, zrada ?! laughing

      What the hell?
      "Lenin's Forge", the manufacturer of these armor ... belongs to Poroshenko, so this is Peremoga! True, so far only for Petya's pocket, but people will tighten their belts and 4 more boats were laid this year.
      They won’t let Petya eat from silver plates - only from gold !!!
    11. 0
      3 July 2016 15: 51
      “Ukraine was, is and will be a sea power! To be and be to the Ukrainian Navy - modern and efficient! We began a large-scale reform designed to revive the combat potential and strengthen the power of the domestic fleet. The priority remains the solution of urgent issues, in particular, the development of the Navy-based infrastructure, the solution of social issues of military personnel and members of their families, ”Poltorak wrote on Facebook.

      Source: http://politikus.ru/events/79880-poltorak-nazval-ukrainu-morskoy-derzhavoy.html
      Politikus.ru laughing belay“The fleet has already replenished two built small armored artillery boats, four more are laid on the stocks. And this is only the beginning, there is a lot of work ahead to restore and further build the fleet. I am sure that the Navy, consistently following the path of reform, mastering the standards of the fleets of the leading countries of the world, will increase the level of combat effectiveness and professional skills, ”said the Minister of Defense of Ukraine.

      Source: http://politikus.ru/events/79880-poltorak-nazval-ukrainu-morskoy-derzhavoy.html
      Politikus.ru
    12. 0
      3 July 2016 16: 54
      Shaw, shaw .shaw .. Yaka is such a zrada? Well, Putin is a little new! Os yak!
    13. 0
      3 July 2016 20: 16
      Yes, the main thing is that the money has already been laundered and spent .. And there at least the grass does not grow, even if it sank in the Odessa raid ..
    14. 0
      4 July 2016 11: 49
      Of course zrada. Lenin's forge - komunyaki.
  2. +5
    3 July 2016 12: 05
    Whatever their appearance would be, at least a little impressive, their Ukrainian press calls the ARMOR. The armor, the power, is the fear of the Black Sea Fleet of Russia angry
    1. -6
      3 July 2016 12: 15
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      What was their appearance was, at least a little impressive, their Ukrainian press calls the ARMOR. The armor, the power, is the fear of the Russian Black Sea Fleet angry

      This fact of not accepting ships into the fleet is both good and bad. Good in the sense that in Ukraine the army places high demands on the products of the domestic defense industry, and does not take everything that industry is slipping into it.
      1. +11
        3 July 2016 12: 23
        Quote: razmik72
        the army makes high demands on the products of the domestic defense industry, and does not take everything
        This is not an army, this fleet does not take. It is easier for the CSKA - abandoned the faulty equipment and sniffed on foot, but the naval ones can’t get anywhere, you’ll have to drown with them ...
        1. +4
          3 July 2016 12: 31
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          have to drown with them ...

          Or maybe there are lifebuoys on these B-boats?
          1. 0
            3 July 2016 17: 55
            Quote: olegyurjewitch
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            have to drown with them ...

            Or maybe there are lifebuoys on these B-boats?

            Judging by the pictures - only yellow-blakitnye inflatable balls.
      2. 0
        3 July 2016 15: 01
        Quote: razmik72
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        What is Russia angry

        This fact of not accepting ships into the fleet is both good and bad. Good in the sense that in Ukraine the army places high demands on the products of the domestic defense industry, and does not take everything that industry is slipping into it.

        Naturally. For six months they hinted, hinted, and the eyes goggled, goggled and ran into. And how will the boats behave in the event of a thermonuclear strike? But let's foresee the task of taking Murmansk at (-47), doesn’t it? Well then go take off the chamfers, and then in the latrine when rolling ... (Salvage where?) Well, are you really so greedy that you are even ready to set your own ..... to substitute? However, the influence of Lyashko does not pass without a trace.
      3. Alf
        +2
        3 July 2016 15: 03
        Quote: razmik72
        and doesn’t take everything that industry is slipping on her.

        They will "give" and take a lot, they just did not agree on the amount of rollback.
      4. 0
        3 July 2016 17: 04
        And the bad thing is that for three years they built, they built and eight months they tested
      5. +2
        3 July 2016 17: 20
        Quote: razmik72
        army makes high demands on domestic defense industry products

        Yeah, see the armored vehicles. Yes
      6. 0
        6 July 2016 02: 13
        in Ukraine, the army makes high demands on the products of the domestic defense industry, and does not take everything that industry is slipping into it.
        What are the increased requirements? They can’t achieve the usual quality standards on a penny boat, and they also gathered in space with the Americans. Planet Shelezyak, there is no more laughing.
    2. +5
      3 July 2016 13: 10
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Whatever their appearance would be, at least a little impressive, their Ukrainian press calls the ARMOR.

      -------------------
      You can draw a grinning mouth on your nose or some other similar airbrushing for "solidity". laughing
  3. +4
    3 July 2016 12: 06
    to the Day of the Naval Forces of Ukraine, which is celebrated on July 30.
    So they have decommunization and the like, why on the last Sunday of July they celebrate the "Moskal" holiday according to the "Moskal" traditions, and they have not had a fleet for a long time! laughing

    Although the acceptance of the boats is postponed, the naming ceremony will take place,
    Yeah, then they’ll go out to the sea with tablets, clowns!
    1. +2
      3 July 2016 12: 21
      Quote: kot28.ru
      So they have decommunization and the like, why on the last Sunday of July they celebrate the "Moskal" holiday according to the "Moskal" traditions, and they have not had a fleet for a long time!

      And why is it still "Lenin's Forge"?
      1. Alf
        -1
        3 July 2016 15: 07
        Quote: BARKAS
        And why is it still "Lenin's Forge"?

        21.04.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX People’s contest for a new name for enterprises
        home - news
        National contest for a new name for enterprises

        The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine adopted a law on the condemnation of communal and national-socialist (Nazi) totalitarian regimes in Ukraine and the fence of propaganda of the symbolism of Ukraine.
        I will look back at the city, with the old zagrebnyh fences of public shares of the public joint-stock company “Leninskaya Kuznya Plant”, as well as on July 19, 2016, it was decided to hold a national competition for the new name of the company.
        All applicants can send their propositions to the email address [email protected].
        Shorten the proposition, in order to take advantage of the offer, to pay attention to the listing of the public fences of the public joint-stock company “Leninsky Forge Plant”, in order to accept the legal regulation.
        1. Alf
          0
          3 July 2016 23: 00
          Quote: Alf
          Quote: BARKAS
          And why is it still "Lenin's Forge"?
          21.04.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX People’s contest for a new name for enterprises
          home - news
          National contest for a new name for enterprises

          The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine adopted a law on the condemnation of communal and national-socialist (Nazi) totalitarian regimes in Ukraine and the fence of propaganda of the symbolism of Ukraine.
          I will look back at the city, with the old zagrebnyh fences of public shares of the public joint-stock company “Leninskaya Kuznya Plant”, as well as on July 19, 2016, it was decided to hold a national competition for the new name of the company.
          All applicants can send their propositions to the email address [email protected].
          Shorten the proposition, in order to take advantage of the offer, to pay attention to the listing of the public fences of the public joint-stock company “Leninsky Forge Plant”, in order to accept the legal regulation.

          Who minus something? Or Svidomo erupted?
      2. -1
        3 July 2016 17: 07
        Urgently rename to "Meters to the blacksmith"!
  4. +3
    3 July 2016 12: 09
    Files were not finalized and here is the result sad ...
    1. +5
      3 July 2016 12: 26
      Quote: wicked partisan
      Files were not finalized and here is the result sad ...

      helmet hi
      do not spoil the holiday
      Ukraine is celebrating Navy Day today.
      Chief of the General Staff - AFU Commander-in-Chief Viktor Muzhenko, as well as Minister of Defense Stepan Poltorak congratulated the military on the Day of the Navy.
      "The hybrid Russian armed aggression has become a real test of loyalty and civil maturity for the personnel of the Navy of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Despite the powerful insidious blow, the Ukrainian fleet survived thanks to the courage and sacrifice of the best patriots, thereby creating conditions for revival and new development," wrote Muzhenko on his Facebook.
      1. +4
        3 July 2016 17: 57
        Quote: izya top
        do not spoil the holiday

        And not going to stop ! On the contrary - here I sit, look, admire Yes :
        Sholem, a fellow believer! hi
        1. +1
          3 July 2016 18: 01
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          On the contrary - here I sit, look, admire

          baby, look baby winked that's where the flight of "thought" fellow
          1. 0
            3 July 2016 18: 46
            Quote: izya top
            that's where the flight of "thought" fellow
            No.
            Even the range of your hands doesn’t correspond to the flight height of the baby thought ... You should hang on the crossbar for half a year Yes ... Well, or more often about fishing with men to talk ... feel
    2. +1
      3 July 2016 13: 43
      Files have not been finalized and here is the result,
      nothing like that, there wasn’t enough paint to smear the yellow-blakidny.
    3. 0
      3 July 2016 14: 06
      Quote: wicked partisan
      Files were not finalized and here is the result sad ...

      Now files will display defects for free (the loot has already been sawn).
  5. +2
    3 July 2016 12: 11
    The power of KhokhloFlot will increase at times, but it would only bring to mind.
  6. +7
    3 July 2016 12: 13
    In addition to the day the Navy needed no one today, it would be worth mentioning the day of the greatest victory of antiquity, in scale quite comparable to our Great Victory. Only here is not a single publication from year to year mentioning this. 3 Lipnya (July), 964, the squad of the Prince of Rus - Svyatoslav Igorevich (Khorobroy) of the Rurikovich clan
    won a crushing victory over the army of the Khazar Hagan.
    The capital of the Jewish Khazaria - Itil was taken by the army of Svyatoslav and was destroyed, then the key fortresses of Khazaria were taken and destroyed, which formed the basis of its parasitic power. And today is the 1052 anniversary of the Great Victory. Congratulate everyone !
  7. +2
    3 July 2016 12: 23
    Behind them, and now in the port an eye and an eye are needed, otherwise they will surrender it quietly to scrap metal ... From ukrov it will become ... wassat
    1. +2
      3 July 2016 12: 45
      Unfortunately, they will not hand over to the Chihara "on metalloom", but it is possible to sell them:
      "The test program for the lead artillery boat was successfully completed on October 26, 2004, and on October 29, the river vessel was loaded aboard the Ruslan heavy transport aircraft and delivered to the city of Termez, where, after assembly, it was launched and handed over to the customer. The second artillery boat" Sayhun "was commissioned at the beginning of December 2004 ....

      The fulfillment of the contract for the supply of the first two artillery boats for Uzbekistan opened up great opportunities for Ukrainian shipbuilders. Some countries of Southeast Asia, Africa and some CIS countries have shown interest in the high-speed military vessel. "
      "The lead artillery boat" Dzhaikhun "was laid down on the slipway of the shipyard" Leninskaya Kuznitsa "on February 19, 2004. The ship was launched on October 2, 2004. During the next three weeks, mooring and a full cycle of sea trials were carried out at the Kanevskoye reservoir. check of weapons by firing at coastal and surface targets. At the same time, Uzbek crews for both boats were trained in Kiev. "

      http://korabley.net/news/rechnye_bronirovannye_artillerijskie_katera_tipa_gjurza

      _proekta_58150/2010-02-13-481
      1. aba
        0
        3 July 2016 13: 13
        but it’s possible to sell and sell:

        Yes, I think that after the story of tanks and armored personnel carriers, few people will look at the crafts of Svidomo.
    2. -1
      3 July 2016 14: 09
      Quote: Abbra
      Behind them, and now in the port an eye and an eye are needed, otherwise they will surrender it quietly to scrap metal ... From ukrov it will become ... wassat

      30 tons, this is how much: 30 by 48, and even by 1,349, and then ... Perspective.
  8. 0
    3 July 2016 12: 32
    Why armored vehicles? About the armor there in the description - not a word. Maybe missed what? laughing
    1. +2
      3 July 2016 12: 51
      Mountain shooter
      "Why ARMOR? About armor there in the description - not a word. Maybe I missed something?"
      Yeah ..., maybe so ... Are you interested? "Pliz":
      "With a very small size and displacement, the boats of this project have quite powerful armament, located in typical towers from the BTR-70 armored personnel carrier and the BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicle. This solution allows you to quickly replenish ammunition from warehouses, as well as repair or replace weapons in field conditions by army specialists. The ammunition load of the nasal combat module includes 500 ready-to-fire 30-mm rounds and provides for the possibility of storing the same amount of ammunition on board. Thanks to the air conditioning system, the temperature in the ammunition compartment is kept within +25 degrees Celsius at outside air temperature above +50. This allows you to store ammunition for up to six months without rechecking. All vital components of the ship are protected by armored steel 4-6 mm thick. The boat is equipped with a smokescreen system, consisting of eight smoke grenade launchers, placed along the perimeter of the deckhouse roof " ...
      Well, TTD "to the heap":
      "Technical characteristics of the river armored artillery boat project 58150" Gyurza ":
      Length - 20,7 m;
      Width - 3,9 m;
      Draught - 0,7 m;
      Displacement - 38 tons;
      The power plant is two Caterpillar CAT 3406E diesel engines with a total capacity of 2000 liters. with.;
      Economical speed - 11 knots;
      Maximum travel speed - 27 nodes;
      Cruising range - 450 miles;
      Autonomy - 5 days;
      Crew - 5 man;
      Armament:
      Automatic gun 30 mm - 1;
      Machine gun 7,62 mm - 1;
      ATGM "Competition" - 4;
      Machine gun 14,5 mm - 1;
      Machine gun 7,62 mm - 1; "
      http://korabley.net/news/rechnye_bronirovannye_artillerijskie_katera_tipa_gjurza
      _proekta_58150/2010-02-13-481
      1. 0
        3 July 2016 17: 19
        So is it river boats or sea? If river then it is necessary to test in the reservoir! Perhaps the testers forgot that they were checking or I did not understand them
      2. +2
        3 July 2016 17: 28
        Quote: sub307
        Ammunition for the nose combat module includes 500 ready to shoot 30 mm rounds

        Impressive. what And in the remaining 30-mm installations, the shells are separate, the powder charges in the shells separately.
        Quote: sub307
        protected by armor steel 4-6 mm thick.

        Feels the power. 5mm armor can stand anything? The fall of a drunk boatswain?
      3. 0
        3 July 2016 19: 05
        "All vital components of the ship are protected by armor steel 4-6 mm thick." - I may be dull, but in my opinion - ALL ships (even self-propelled barges lol ) entirely at least from such steel they make and even thicker. Or not ???
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    3. +1
      3 July 2016 13: 45
      Why armored vehicles? About the armor there in the description - not a word. ,,
      broniki issued to sailors.
  9. +7
    3 July 2016 12: 34
    The new Gyurza-M armored boats are good boats, only they are afraid of water. laughing
  10. -2
    3 July 2016 12: 39
    The Iowa battleship was built in two years ...
    1. +2
      3 July 2016 12: 53
      So, too, the Americans built. And these are not growing out of the hands of the backside. Yes, and you need to steal yourself. As the USSR collapsed, so they rolled to the bottom.
  11. +2
    3 July 2016 12: 39
    Happy Navy Usrainy ... laughing laughing
    You are good welders on the pier .. !!!!
  12. +1
    3 July 2016 12: 49
    Rollback to the receivers did not satisfy the latter, taking into account the production costs ... laughing
    1. +2
      3 July 2016 15: 27
      And by the way, for fun, what is the price tag? request And how much more is needed to eliminate the deficiencies?
  13. 0
    3 July 2016 12: 51
    Enti dill-Marsoflotts are being scored out. What difference does it make for what galoshes to sink: on serviceable or with flaws.
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  15. +1
    3 July 2016 13: 02
    The whole series of these kayaks should be called "PFU-shame on the fleet ukroiny"! And the plant should be renamed into the plant named after Petra delusional!
  16. +1
    3 July 2016 13: 04
    Do they experience a river boat at sea and find faults? How unexpected.
  17. -2
    3 July 2016 13: 04
    Please announce the entire list of deficiencies, all 700 sheets! We will laugh !! wassat
  18. +1
    3 July 2016 13: 17
    What is there Hohlyatsky forelock dumb, and without him they don’t jump, they don’t run, don’t walk)))))
  19. +1
    3 July 2016 13: 25
    The Ukrainians fully adopt the achievements of the Americans. Those still cannot bring their F-35 to mind. Keep it up "maydauns" lol
  20. +2
    3 July 2016 13: 29
    If anyone remembers, then these boats were solemnly attached with mortgages upside down (there was an article on "VO" with a corresponding discussion), and this is the result.
    1. -2
      3 July 2016 13: 52
      Quote: Sergey-8848
      If anyone remembers, then these boats were solemnly attached with mortgages upside down (there was an article on "VO" with a corresponding discussion), and this is the result.

      The best thing for Ukrainians is tachanka! Well done .. But alas, the time is different already!))))
      1. +1
        3 July 2016 19: 53
        I think someone else will remember ...
  21. 0
    3 July 2016 13: 47
    "Unfortunately, during the tests and firing, numerous flaws in the design of the armored boats were revealed."

    Yes, alright! Here they leveled with a file, there they knocked with a hammer, here they covered a hole in the bulkhead with a card - and it's normal, like new!
    1. 0
      3 July 2016 14: 51
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      "Unfortunately, during the tests and firing, numerous flaws in the design of the armored boats were revealed."

      Yes, alright! Here they leveled with a file, there they knocked with a hammer, here they covered a hole in the bulkhead with a card - and it's normal, like new!

      And here are the crap. Files and welding do not get off. Salvage where?
  22. 0
    3 July 2016 14: 05
    There are no women! They don’t accept it. A paulka from overseas and a mummy from neighbors
    they even changed their minds about investing their sharers and eureka in this madhouse, oh, a mistake came out to Ukraine, that is, to Ukraine!
  23. +4
    3 July 2016 14: 28
    U-174
    Type: IX-C. Laid down on January 2, 1941, "Weser" AG, Bremen.
    Launched on November 26, 1941, 3 military campaigns. 5 sunk vessels (30 gross). Sunk on April 813, 27 south of Newfoundland
    U-175 - a large ocean-going German submarine type IX-C, from the Second World War. The boat made 3 military campaigns, in which sank 10 ships (40 619 gross). April 17, 1943 sunk southwest of Ireland


    History repeats itself with only one difference .. These will sink at the pier ..
  24. +3
    3 July 2016 14: 33
    U-174, U-175 - something reminds me of something what Ahhhhh ... this is the same designation for the Kriegsmarine submarine.
  25. +4
    3 July 2016 15: 14
    Today, on the day of the Naval Forces of Ukraine, the President of the country has appointed Igor Voronchenko to the post of commander. In addition, from the lordly shoulder, the newly-minted head of the Navy was promoted to vice admiral.

    This was stated by Poroshenko himself during the celebration of the Navy in Odessa.

    However, it is worthwhile to dwell on the personality of Igor Voronchenko himself.

    Voronchenko served as commander of the Navy since April 2016, so his official appointment was quite expected. The vice admiral himself had nothing to do with the fleet before his appointment: he graduated from the tank school in Tashkent, after which he continued his career in the ground forces. Poroshenko by his decree violated the tradition of the navy, when the post of commander should take "his man."

    However, Voronchenko was appointed head of the Navy not for his phenomenal successes, as one might think, but for his anti-Russian statements. It was he who, being the deputy head of the fleet on coastal defense during the Crimean Spring 2014, proposed to introduce tanks and to shoot the Verkhovna Rada of Crimea. Such statements were made from him by the close Alexander Turchinov and Petro Poroshenko, who liked such big words.

    In addition, Voronchenko proved himself in the "anti-terrorist operation" of the Lugansk region, where he commanded the Armed Forces, which fired on peaceful neighborhoods.

    Now, it turns out, you can climb the career ladder simply by killing several "separatists" who are actually citizens of the very Ukraine, for which Voronchenko allegedly takes care.
    1. 0
      3 July 2016 16: 24
      Quote: izya top
      The vice admiral himself had nothing to do with the fleet before his appointment: he he graduated from the tank school in Tashkent, after which he continued his career in the ground forces.


      Hmm ... the Marine Corps ... recourse

      What in life, especially, doesn’t happen in Ukraine?
    2. 0
      3 July 2016 17: 30
      Now the Russian Navy will not remain on the Black Sea: Vronchenko will be crushed by tanks, sorry to cut boats. Put the tank driver in comfort! Who studied in Tashkent, how many admirals are there?
  26. +1
    3 July 2016 15: 41
    Two new Gyurza-M armored boats, which have been tested at the Odessa shipyard for about 8 months, were not accepted by the Ukrainian Navy due to numerous manufacturing flaws

    Tried to commit suicide through drowning? I'll go to WoT, drown myself a couple of times too ...
  27. +3
    3 July 2016 15: 59
    It is also worth recalling that at the end of May the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine reported that Ukrainian enterprises plan to build 2020 warships and boats by 30. The official representative of the Investigative Committee of Russia, Vladimir Markin, ironized about these plans in Kiev. In mid-April, Ukrainian Minister of Defense Stepan Poltorak announced that his country had to abandon plans to create an underwater fleet. “Today we cannot count on submarines,” he said. The newspaper VZGLYAD analyzed in detail the recognition of the Ukrainian Minister. In addition, a working group created on behalf of the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko and the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine revealed numerous cases of desertion of personnel of the Ukrainian fleet and visits by naval officers of the “occupied” Crimea.

    Source: http://politikus.ru/events/79880-poltorak-nazval-ukrainu-morskoy-derzhavoy.html
    Politikus.ru
  28. +6
    3 July 2016 16: 19
    hee hee lol naval commander
    1. -2
      3 July 2016 18: 11
      Quote: iza top
      hee hee lol naval commander

      This stuffed stuffed with fecal matter diagnosis is written on the snout. smile
  29. +2
    3 July 2016 16: 20
    "The Ukrainian Navy refused to accept the new armored boats" Gyurza-M "due to numerous shortcomings" ...

    But today, Poltorak, in his speech on the next anniversary of the Navy, said that Ukraine was, is and will be a powerful naval power ... Mentioning the increment of the fleet precisely with these boats ...
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  34. 0
    3 July 2016 21: 09
    insanity in this "country404" has already filled everything and everyone so much that common sense has long emigrated ...
    Navy Day, and - the highlight of the program - flights of planes! A country of complete nonsense: they are shaking over the heroes of the ATO, they are building a house for them, but they have not had time to move in yet, as the roof leaked and the elevator broke!
    for everything that they do not get up to, only two words come to mind - m.raz and squalor ...
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    3 July 2016 21: 17
    According to unverified data, there is an idea to build a combat catamaran from these boats ... laughing
  36. 0
    3 July 2016 23: 22
    And let them drive to Sevastopol! We’ll push ourselves why they need a fleet, they’ll finish our supply, buy more and look at the cutters, the poachers will come in to drive!
  37. 0
    4 July 2016 11: 50
    A Ukrainian tanker has been appointed to command the Ukrainian Navy! The decision is right: it’s time to attach tank tracks to the remaining vessels and go into battle!