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Shoigu instructed to prepare proposals for security measures when flying over the Baltic Sea

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The Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation instructed to prepare proposals for developing confidence-building measures that would increase the safety of flights over the Baltic Sea, reports RIA News message of the Russian military department.


Shoigu instructed to prepare proposals for security measures when flying over the Baltic Sea


“Fulfilling the instructions of the President of the Russian Federation, the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, Army General Sergei Shoigu instructed to prepare proposals for developing a system of confidence-building measures that increase flight safety aviation in the Baltic Sea region. In particular, a number of relevant organizational and technical measures are being developed, including the use of “transponders” by the Russian aerospace forces, ”
says release.

It is noted that “this will allow the air traffic control services of the Baltic region countries to identify Russian aircraft when they fly over the neutral waters of the Baltic Sea”.

“In the case of the response of the NATO countries to fly their aircraft with the included" transponders "near the Russian borders, experts of the Russian Defense Ministry can take part in a detailed discussion of this issue at the expert level," the press service said.

The use of "transponders" would undoubtedly increase flight safety, but NATO will not take such a step, since it is interested in maintaining military tensions, believes Konstantin Sivkov, president of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems.

“These“ transponders ”, and to be more precise, the“ friend-foe ”recognition system, will be quite an effective tool for ensuring flight safety. It will be immediately clear what type of aircraft it is. This is the right decision, but the partners from NATO will not go for it, it is unprofitable for them, they need tension at the borders of Russia, ”said Sivkov.

At the same time, he noted that “the“ transponders ”will not harm the military potential of Russia and NATO, since in the event of the outbreak of hostilities they can be easily removed from the aircraft, but the United States will not want to give up the possibility of leaving their aircraft unidentified near Russian borders.”

“The issues of accusing Russia of violating air borders will immediately disappear, this will increase safety and reduce military tensions in the air.” In addition, earlier we had to fly an airplane into the air to bring closer and identify a detected airborne target, and now we will know that this is an American reconnaissance aircraft. It is extremely unprofitable for the United States, ”Sivkov stressed.
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AP Photo / Mindaugas Kulbis
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  1. Andrey K
    Andrey K 3 July 2016 10: 06
    +12
    ... These "transponders", or to be more precise, the "friend or foe" recognition system, will be a fairly effective tool to ensure flight safety ...

    Probably I’ll say it is unpatriotic - but it brings something longing, this is our initiative. You get a one-goal game ...
    ... this will allow the air traffic control services of the countries of the Baltic region to identify Russian aircraft when they fly over the neutral waters of the Baltic Sea ...

    And somewhere it says that "the countries of the Baltic region" have pledged to fulfill this initiative.
    And besides the Baltic "diapers" there is also NATO aviation, "guarding" the Baltic sky. How to deal with her? NATO did not sign this paper ...
    ... however, the United States will not want to give up the opportunity to leave its aircraft unidentified near Russian borders ...

    Why bother with all this. If it is initially stated that the "exceptional democratizer" will not execute anything request
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 3 July 2016 10: 07
      +6
      Quote: Andrey K
      Probably I’ll say it is unpatriotic - but this initiative is something that yearns us. You get a one-goal game ..

      You are wrong: our business is to offer ... yes
      1. Andrey K
        Andrey K 3 July 2016 10: 20
        +6
        Quote: SRC P-15
        You are wrong: our business is to offer ... yes

        Quite possibly. I simply affirm that our initiative will be “The voice of one crying in the wilderness” ... And you also know about it.
        Not for that they hysterical and the borders were laid, in order to take "transponders" on our initiative, to hang airplanes carrying "democracy" request
      2. Khariton
        Khariton 3 July 2016 10: 21
        +3
        Russia has always offered and is proposing various programs of a "joint security system" in the world, but in response, as always, silence or general phrases ... Two-faced scum!
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        You are wrong: our business is to offer ..

        You are absolutely right in this, then let them not be offended or scream ...
    2. joopel
      joopel 3 July 2016 10: 58
      0
      There is a transponder, there is no transponder, everything is too early to be accompanied by any military aircraft near our borders a standby aircraft will be raised, or several. So is their side. What, without a transponder, does an airplane turn into an invisibility? No, on the screen of the locator in full view. In case of aggravation of relations about transponders, they will all be forgotten at once. Let the pin doo sang like idiots.
    3. Gray brother
      Gray brother 3 July 2016 11: 05
      +2
      Quote: Andrey K
      And somewhere it says that "the countries of the Baltic region" have pledged to fulfill this initiative.

      They have the right to refuse, then it will be where they poke their faces when they have their complaints, they will once again show.
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    5. siberalt
      siberalt 3 July 2016 11: 07
      +4
      Lech Walesa also suggested that the Americans shoot down our planes from the ships over the Baltic. But shoot at the wings so that the pilots stay alive. "Good Pole", damn it!
    6. rpek32
      rpek32 3 July 2016 12: 16
      +1
      Quote: Andrey K
      Probably I’ll say it is unpatriotic - but it brings something longing, this is our initiative. You get a one-goal game ...

      this is the media step in the first place:
      show through the media "we are so good, we are relieving tension." And if any problems begin, other planes will be sent to the same route, or, as it has been said, the transponders will be removed from the existing ones. in principle, they pinned the soulless with minimal investment
    7. rpek32
      rpek32 3 July 2016 12: 18
      0
      Quote: venzim
      Quote: SRC P-15
      Quote: Andrey K
      Probably I’ll say it is unpatriotic - but this initiative is something that yearns us. You get a one-goal game ..

      You are wrong: our business is to offer ... yes


      And then if we say something: "We did everything to reduce the degree of tension"


      Quote: Andrey K
      Why bother with all this. If it is initially stated that the "exceptional democratizer" will not execute anything

      discredit. show in the direction of the soulless: "ay yay yay, here we are, but you are not, we are striving for peace, but you are not. bad oldies, bad. Which of us is striving for war now, eh?"
    8. GSH-18
      GSH-18 4 July 2016 01: 00
      0
      Quote: Andrey K
      You get a one-goal game ...

      Nothing like this. With the transponders turned on, either all or no one will fly. Ours simply offered. We are waiting for an answer.
  2. maxim1987
    maxim1987 3 July 2016 10: 09
    +3
    the best method of trust is the appearance of the T-50 over the Baltic
    1. ARS56
      ARS56 3 July 2016 10: 55
      +1
      The mere appearance is absolutely not enough. Knowing the size and influence of the 5th column on decision-making, the enemy feels safe.
      The enemy is sure that there will be no serious response.
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 4 July 2016 01: 03
      0
      Quote: maximNNX
      the best method of trust is the appearance of the T-50 over the Baltic

      Early. Su-35S is for him, quite a serious machine yes
  3. venzim
    venzim 3 July 2016 10: 11
    +4
    Quote: SRC P-15
    Quote: Andrey K
    Probably I’ll say it is unpatriotic - but this initiative is something that yearns us. You get a one-goal game ..

    You are wrong: our business is to offer ... yes


    And then if we say something: "We did everything to reduce the degree of tension"
  4. figwam
    figwam 3 July 2016 10: 23
    0
    At the same time, he noted that "the" transponders "will not harm the military potential of Russia and NATO, since IN THE EVENT OF THE BEGINNING OF BATTLE ACTIONS "can be easily removed from the aircraft, but the United States will not want to give up the possibility of leaving its aircraft unidentified near Russian borders."

    A good perspective looms.
  5. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 3 July 2016 10: 25
    0
    Quote: Andrey K
    Why bother with all this. If it is initially stated that the "exceptional democratizer" will not execute anything

    The fact is that if you do not offer or insist, the situation will remain without movement. They now, if they refuse, will have less incentive to scream about our turned off "transponders".
  6. berezin1987
    berezin1987 3 July 2016 10: 29
    +1
    Why do we need it? Russia does not violate the airspace of other countries, we just fly over neutral waters. What kind of conflict are we talking about? Each side has the right to bring down the violator of the airspace, but no one has violated it yet. If they bring down our plane in neutral space, it will be an act of aggression and will be a formal reason for declaring war on the aggressor country.
  7. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 3 July 2016 10: 49
    +4
    Nothing will help, since we have been declared the threat to peace number 1, which means that all our proposals will either be ignored or they will be misinterpreted in the way that needs to be done by NATO and the United States.
  8. Pitot
    Pitot 3 July 2016 10: 52
    0
    Or maybe it's just the main thing to say it out loud? And there, as before, as it was?
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 July 2016 10: 55
    +2
    Whether or not transponders are turned on is just an ADDITIONAL means of identifying the aircraft. It does nothing to make the plane invisible. (or rather, visible). It's just that it's not always possible to understand what kind of plane it is from the target mark, and you have to "drive" the pair on duty in order to see who this greyhound is. This is annoying. So let's turn it on, it's not difficult for us. When necessary, turn it off.
  10. APASUS
    APASUS 3 July 2016 11: 05
    +2
    A little weird suggestion.
    All air traffic operators are well aware that this is a military aircraft, there is a system of air corridors for civilian aircraft.
    And this scream in the media fits perfectly into the information war, remember the Russian submarine you were looking for and could not find and miraculously the country immediately gathered in NATO after the incident.
    Can transponders submarine fleet equip ???? laughing
  11. Tusv
    Tusv 3 July 2016 11: 19
    +2
    These "transponders", or to be more precise, the recognition system "friend or foe"

    It seems to me that this is not the same thing. The transponder fights to itself constantly, its own system - a stranger winks when you ask.
  12. berezin1987
    berezin1987 3 July 2016 11: 34
    +3
    Already tired of these constant excuses and peaceful initiatives. It may be enough to make unilateral concessions. Just make a proposal that from a certain date both sides start flying with the included friend or foe recognition devices. If they approve of the idea - good, if not - just great. And it's time to stop making excuses about and without, just ignore the cries of the "partners".
  13. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 3 July 2016 11: 44
    +3
    Quote: siberalt
    Lech Walesa also suggested that the Americans shoot down our planes from the ships over the Baltic. But shoot at the wings so that the pilots stay alive. "Good Pole", damn it!

    So this "good pshek" only needs to cut off his ears and tongue, and leave his head, we are also "good" angry
    1. berezin1987
      berezin1987 3 July 2016 12: 08
      -1
      Last week, we walked weakly on the donkeys. First, the Germans raped them, and then we. Next time, I hope we will not make old mistakes and we will forever scum this. They have always been our enemies, like most of the Western Slavs. It is time to understand this already the Russian elite, and then everything will fall into place.
  14. atamankko
    atamankko 3 July 2016 12: 05
    +1
    We’ll discuss it with NATO, but the question doesn’t mean anything,
    all the time we flew in neutral waters and we will fly.
  15. Parsec
    Parsec 3 July 2016 14: 00
    +1
    “These“ transponders ”, and to be more precise, the“ friend-foe ”recognition system, will be quite an effective tool for ensuring flight safety. It will be immediately clear what type of aircraft it is. This is the right decision, but the partners from NATO will not go for it, it is unprofitable for them, they need tension at the borders of Russia, ”said Sivkov.

    Although the transponder and the recognition system work on the same principle, however, things are different.

    To issue a signal of guaranteed identification "I am mine" only to your own means is one thing, and data on the type, tail number, altitude, speed, and your transponder code is another.