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Media: Polish MiGs will arm Ukrainian missiles

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Ukrainian state-owned enterprise SpetsTekhnoExport, a member of a consortium with the Polish company WB Electronics, received an order to supply the Polish Air Force 40 guided air-to-air missiles P-27Р1 for MiG-29 fighters, reports resource www.altair.com.pl.


MiG-29 Polish Air Force (onboard number "115", serial number 2960535115 / 4503) with suspended guided missiles of the Р-27 family (in this case Р-27Р), 2015.

It is noted that "SpetsTechnoExport" is "the only supplier of the P-27P1 missiles outside Russia".

Post a Polish resource commented blog bmpd: “The Polish Air Force announced a tender for the purchase of 40 R-27R1 missiles for MiG-29 fighters in November 2015. The tender from the very beginning was a formality, since the only real supplier of R-27R1 missiles of a new production for Poland could only be the Artem State Joint-Stock Holding Company (Ukraine), and thus the question was essentially reduced to the choice of an intermediary company for the supply of these missiles with Ukraine. In addition to the consortium WB Electronics and GVP SpetsTechnoExport, two Polish companies also submitted applications for participation in the tender - Megmar Logistics & Consulting (Kutno) and Cenzin (Warsaw).
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Mariusz Adamski / www.airliners.net
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  1. Alex_Rarog
    Alex_Rarog 1 July 2016 11: 20
    +3
    Why air-SALO rockets will be hit by pig farms or refuse to fly out without additional fat)
    1. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 1 July 2016 11: 24
      +5
      I imagined a dialogue between a Pshek flyer and a Khokhloraketa: “Coordinates of the target, dog red!” “Shaw?” laughing
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 1 July 2016 11: 39
        +13
        Quote: Roman1970
        Only 40 missiles? Probably, with the combat training the Poles are not very ...

        The Ukrainian-made R-27R1 missile has the name Boomerang. Therefore 40 pcs. quite enough. Enough planes in the Air Force laughing
        1. dauria
          dauria 1 July 2016 11: 56
          +16
          Rocket R-27R1 Ukrainian production


          And why such neglect? The technology is Soviet, the Arsenal enterprise is serious, it worked for the whole Union. Components were made in the Ukrainian SSR. Well, the staff is like a nursing home, so what? You should have seen ours from Almaz-Antey. Same. You cannot lure young people, half the workshop for conservation. You laugh in vain, it is stupid to underestimate Soviet vodka and Soviet missiles. By the way, any country would not disdain those brains that we left in Kiev.

          By the way, only in Kiev there were seven military schools (with Suvorovsky). Or do you think all the teachers moved to Moscow? And some faculties of the KPI are still preparing very high-level specialists, not by hearsay. Stop repeating nonsense for fools.
          1. Thrall
            Thrall 1 July 2016 12: 03
            +5
            Quote: dauria
            And why such neglect?

            Well, how would you answer ...
            Quote: dauria
            only in Kiev there were seven military schools (with Suvorovsky)

            I graduated from a military school in the Ukrainian SSR. Now there are dilapidated barracks and educational buildings.
          2. Simon
            Simon 1 July 2016 12: 09
            +8
            Man, do not forget! The technologies are Soviet, but Ukrainian production is completely different. If they can’t normally make tanks according to Soviet technologies, they can repair planes. Already, many countries have come up against this, for example, Pakistan. fool
            1. svp67
              svp67 1 July 2016 12: 15
              +3
              Quote: Simon
              The technologies are Soviet, but Ukrainian production is completely different
              And not the fact that these missiles will not be delivered from stocks.
              1. DrVintorez
                DrVintorez 1 July 2016 12: 57
                +5
                But most likely it is from stock then it is for sale.
              2. Dart2027
                Dart2027 1 July 2016 17: 24
                +1
                And how long do they have a shelf life? Stocks are not a panacea, and if a conventional cartridge can still be used after the warranty period has expired, then the rocket is no longer worth it.
            2. Forest
              Forest 1 July 2016 12: 22
              +5
              In fact, until recently, Russia purchased all of its air-to-air missiles in Ukraine, and now we are trying to somehow make our own production.
          3. GUS
            GUS 1 July 2016 12: 23
            +3
            Quote: dauria
            And why such neglect? The technology is Soviet, the Arsenal enterprise is serious, it worked for the whole Union.

            "Artyom" does not actually exist anymore.
          4. Volodin Dmitry
            Volodin Dmitry 1 July 2016 15: 14
            +4
            At the expense of "Almaz-Antey" - no need for dust. There are enough youth! In Yekaterinburg at ZiK
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 1 July 2016 21: 16
        0
        I read the title of the article, neighing heartily from the phrase "Ukrainian missiles" lol
    2. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 1 July 2016 11: 24
      +4
      How long will such planes fly? not specified? After the overhaul, some of the aircraft are already having problems.
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 1 July 2016 11: 31
        +5
        What are the Poles using "occupation" weapons? What is left of the Russians hated by them? (MiG-29)
      2. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 1 July 2016 11: 38
        +3
        Quote: oleg-gr
        After ukroremont part of the aircraft already with problems
        The Poles have a chance. smile In this particular case, the repair of Polish aircraft by the hands of Ukrainian craftsmen was not carried out - the Ukrainians only supplied missiles. Apparently, the Ukrainian Air Force does not need guided air-to-air missiles, since there are no more fighters left in them.
        1. svp67
          svp67 1 July 2016 12: 16
          +1
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Apparently, the Ukrainian Air Force does not need guided air-to-air missiles, since there are no more fighters left in them.

          No, they have to pay for the weapons that come from Poland, but the money is "dumb", so they are looking for how to "part with the sides"
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    3. Andrey K
      Andrey K 1 July 2016 11: 44
      +11
      We will wait lol
      They broke the contract - well done. Let's see how they do it.
      Iraq, virtually, on BTR-4 - has already defeated all terrorists.
      Kingdom of Thailand, Ukrainian MBT "Oplot", did not wait.
      Small but proud Croatia, having contacted Ukraine, was left without aviation at all. "Repaired" 12 MiG-21bis units, for some reason, do not fly.
      Poles decided to join the column going towards the forest wassat
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 1 July 2016 16: 42
        +1
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        Apparently, the Ukrainian Air Force does not need guided air-to-air missiles, since there are no more fighters left in them.
        They do not have the Air Force, but simply the Air Force (Repeat Strength))).
        However, they have both the Su-27 and the MiG-29. Naturally, it’s not new, but at the ARZ they not only know how to maintain the technical condition, but also carry out modernization. The receipt of the restored equipment is literally measured in pieces (this way http://korrespondent.net/ukraine/3659768-vvs-ukrayny-popolnylys-chetyrmia-myh-29

        , at the same time, it is not known how many combat vehicles are being written off for one reason or another. Therefore, the exact number of combat-ready aircraft is unknown, but there is no reason to expect a large-scale increase in numbers. This does not apply to personnel and their training.
        P.S. But apart from Long-Range Aviation, there were 4 Air Armies in the Ukrainian SSR! The second echelon was propped up by the steel fist of the ZGV. Soviet military power was ready for decisive fulfillment of the most difficult tasks, but it suddenly became an orphan ... but this does not apply to the subject of the current state of Ukrainian military aviation . Just nostalgic thoughts out loud.
        But what really makes you think is the restoration of the old Soviet airfields. For whom are these sites being prepared is another question.
  2. Magic archer
    Magic archer 1 July 2016 11: 24
    +5
    Interestingly, but Psheks are generally aware of what quality weapons are now in Ukraine?! You can ask Iraq and Malaysia)))) Although ... Buy!)))
    1. Andrea
      Andrea 1 July 2016 11: 37
      +3
      This sturgeon does not happen second freshness, and there are rockets.
      We’ll kill the date and go ahead, maybe the Poles will not self-explode. laughing
    2. Forest
      Forest 1 July 2016 12: 23
      +1
      They have excellent rocket quality.
  3. sever.56
    sever.56 1 July 2016 11: 24
    +4
    Well, that's all ... "Write letters", as they say.
    In the conditions of the collapse of the Ukrainian industry, when "miracle weapons", such as "Dung" and a drone, with an RPG shot attached to it, are riveted, one can imagine what the ukrooboronka will do.
    Let the "ambitious" psheks not be surprised later if the missiles will self-launch or aim at a civilian liner, for example, on the plane of the President of Poland.
  4. Roman1970
    Roman1970 1 July 2016 11: 24
    +2
    Only 40 missiles? Probably, with the combat training the Poles are not very ...
    1. Mikado
      Mikado 1 July 2016 11: 40
      +1
      Quote: Roman1970
      Only 40 missiles? Probably, with the combat training the Poles are not very ...

      it’s strange that they even have what it takes to mount missiles. It seemed to me that they only had a balloon left ..
  5. BARKAS
    BARKAS 1 July 2016 11: 30
    +4
    40 missiles are cool, the Poles gave rise to Ukraine to think that they are now the leaders in the global arms market laughing
  6. Shuttle
    Shuttle 1 July 2016 11: 31
    +7
    Incidentally, it is Ukrainian missiles that most often fall into civilian aircraft. I would have thought a few more times in place of the Poles. Maybe this is really such a trend?
  7. Egoza
    Egoza 1 July 2016 11: 33
    +2
    Ukro-rockets? Well, that’s it! Hide whoever can. Well, they’re svidomye with us and are torn to Europe and are torn. Fly in all directions, like shreds in the back streets laughing
    1. Andrea
      Andrea 1 July 2016 11: 55
      +3
      Psheks, like Ukrainians, are free-spirited. I think they all know and everyone understands. Someone will smear caviar on bread, and someone will pray when they will serve missiles.
    2. svp67
      svp67 1 July 2016 12: 18
      +2
      hi Madam
      Quote: Egoza
      Ukro-rockets? Well, that’s it!

      It’s funny. Here are just Soviet rockets. And Russia is now desperately setting up the production of such missiles on its territory, continuing to use another topic that was produced in Ukraine. The benefit of stocks is still enough.
      1. Andrea
        Andrea 1 July 2016 12: 45
        +2
        R-27 (According to NATO classification AA-10 Alamo) - a medium-range Soviet air-to-air guided missile, developed by the Vympel GosMKB enterprise named after I.I. Toropova (Moscow) .From Wikipedia.
  8. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 1 July 2016 11: 36
    +4
    Yes, great news. NATO will ensure its own losses - by definition, a circle of rocket-modellers cannot create an industrial design.
  9. Shooting
    Shooting 1 July 2016 11: 37
    +2
    I suspect that the Poles, instead of the R-27P1, will receive from the Ukrainians a tube from under the drawings with papier-mâché wings.
  10. novel66
    novel66 1 July 2016 11: 39
    +4
    maidan - missiles both jump and jump, the trajectory is unpredictable., they can hit their own way.
  11. Arkan
    Arkan 1 July 2016 11: 45
    +4
    Extremely scumbags, buy weapons from Ukrainians that may prove to be obsolete scrap metal released back in Soviet times.
  12. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 1 July 2016 11: 46
    +5
    After launch, the Ukrainian rocket always returns home. Oh!!!
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 1 July 2016 21: 37
      +1
      Quote: avg-mgn
      After launch, the Ukrainian rocket always returns home. Oh!!!

      Yeah, for the fat! lol
  13. Khariton
    Khariton 1 July 2016 11: 49
    +2
    They probably give me the documentation ...? And bow to the panam ...)))
  14. vv3
    vv3 1 July 2016 11: 50
    +2
    NATO Pole with Bender missiles on a Soviet fighter? !! Hard to believe, probably a madhouse?
  15. Wolka
    Wolka 1 July 2016 11: 51
    +1
    yeah, spit out the gentry seeds
  16. Pitot
    Pitot 1 July 2016 11: 56
    +2
    In nature, psheks are like whores - in fact they are friends with kaklami, but in words - "kaklyandiya kurva ...."
  17. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 July 2016 11: 56
    +3
    40 guided air-to-air missiles R-27R1

    The main thing here is that Ukraine will earn a little, intermediary sales companies will earn, and the Polish Air Force is likely to rake in problems. But this is their headache.
    1. DrVintorez
      DrVintorez 1 July 2016 13: 00
      +1
      I'm afraid that Ukraine will not earn anything. money will be "lost". and what kind of money is this for 40 missiles for the state? but for some pocket, a very good amount.
  18. Koresh
    Koresh 1 July 2016 12: 05
    +3
    Only we produce death rockets for air conditioners!
  19. vector96
    vector96 1 July 2016 12: 28
    +3
    now with these missiles planes will stop taking off
  20. viktor.
    viktor. 1 July 2016 12: 43
    +2
    most likely Ukrainians take an advance payment, and missiles sad request
  21. sgr291158
    sgr291158 1 July 2016 13: 14
    0
    The only question is how these missiles will fly and in which direction and whether they will fly at all.
  22. Enoch
    Enoch 1 July 2016 15: 10
    +1
    Psheks do not like Russia, but they fly on Russian planes - not consecutive and crafty.
  23. Titsen
    Titsen 1 July 2016 16: 36
    +1
    Dangerous mix...

    Ukro-Polish !!!!!!!!
  24. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 1 July 2016 20: 29
    +1
    Strange people, the Poles — they’ll either saw off their heads, or they’ll think of flying Ukrainian missiles ... Darwin Prize to all the people! fellow