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Deficiency of military pilots in the United States associated with the fall in oil prices

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Deficiency of military pilots in the United States associated with the fall in oil prices



The United States faced an acute shortage of pilots, both in military and civilian aviation. The reason was a number of market mechanisms, including a drop in oil prices, as well as tightening requirements for pilots, dictated by the causes of some plane crashes. There is only one way out - the development of automation.

On the eve it became known that the new artificial intelligence ALPHA (developed by Psibernetix Inc) was able to beat a professional expert in imitation of air combat - Colonel of the US Air Force retired Gene Lee. According to the impressions of the colonel, ALPHA seemed to foresee his intentions, which, coupled with an instant reaction, ensured the victory of the computer. Similarly, ALPHA contractions with other specialists ended, even in cases where the speed, accuracy of shots and other characteristics of the computer-controlled aircraft were reduced. In the future, this computer will be able to participate in real combat operations, driving UAVs, coordinating fighters and calculating the strategy of the enemy.

The bet on scientific and technical progress in this sense is extremely relevant for the Pentagon: robots are especially needed precisely where there are not enough people. Back in May, the American and world media circulated newswhich does not fit in with the image of the United States as a great aviation power and a country where, in 1903, the first airplane in the world took off. According to CNN, there is currently a shortage of more 700 pilots — 511 fighters and 200 unmanned aerial vehicle operators (UAVs) —in the United States military. However, taking into account the fact that drones are being used more and more actively in military and special operations (since the 2006 year, the frequency of UAV use has increased 5 times), the Air Force intends to additionally invite at least 300 drone operators to serve, which brings the lack of flight personnel in the armed forces power up to xnumx people. And this is despite the fact that the US Air Force trains more UAV pilots than ordinary pilots.
The fact that fighter pilots and UAV pilots are currently more in demand by the Pentagon is confirmed by General Herbert Carlisle. However, the replenishment of the number of these specialists is not going as fast as the American military would like it to. One of the reasons is the “attraction” of civil aviation. Reduced fuel prices and the associated increase in the intensity of air travel led to the fact that airlines began to actively poach military pilots into the cockpits of civil aircraft.

The same Carlisle acknowledges that the Air Force can not compete with salaries and freer way of life, offering the former military pilots of the airline. However, according to him, moral incentives for combat pilots is much more than their civilian counterparts. As for the drones operators, the situation is even more difficult. Contractors such as General Atomics UAV pilots Pentagon offer relatively high wages, but the specifics of the work does not always provide a sufficient flow of willing to take a place in a bunker for controls drone.

As General David Perkins notes, land forces UAV operators are more satisfied with their work than their Air Force counterparts because they are deployed in combat zones from which they are piloting their vehicles: trips, including staying in other countries, change of impressions give the dynamics of their rather monotonous activities. Air force drone operators have much more boring life - from home by bus to a bunker located at the Creech Air Force base in Nevada, and after work - home by the same route. Because of this lifestyle, they often see themselves not as pilots, but as technical support personnel for the base. In addition, the career growth of the UAV operators is not as fast as that of the “classic” pilots.
The paradox of the current situation is that civilian aircraft also suffer from a shortage of captains. At the beginning of this decade, several pilots from America worked with Aeroflot with Russian passports. Many of them came to the United States with their parents at a young age, graduated from aviation colleges or universities, but, as one of them told LOOK to the newspaper: “In America, no one can go to any bush, shake it, pilots will fall down”. So they came to work for Aeroflot to recruit flight hours on large liners, and then return to the States as captains.

But now in the US, the demand for pilots (at least for local airlines) is no less, and maybe more, than in Russia. Previously, there was no such problem, because the flight staffs of regional airlines were usually replenished according to the following scheme: a pilot came from the Air Force, became a co-pilot, and after that became the captain of the ship on local airlines. The work was very low-paid - the co-pilot received about 20 thousand dollars a year, and the captain - no more than 30 – 40 thousand, but at the helm of a regional aircraft like “Embraer” or “Bombardier” you could accumulate experience and flight hours needed for transition to the "big" aviation operating aircraft of the type "Boeing" and "Airbus". Accordingly, the salary increased.

For example, the captains of the Boeing 777 or Boeing 787, flying 900 hours per year (Federal Aviation Administration - the FAA allows linear pilots to fly up to 1000 hours a year, but few pilots want to work so much) get for this period of time 264 is thousands of dollars, not counting all sorts of bonuses in the form of corporate air tickets and additional allowance for international flights in the form of 2,8 dollars for each flying hour.

This system has worked well for several decades, providing a continuous influx of pilots into regional aviation, which was for them as an internship for a graduate medical institute. It was possible to get on the 250 clock of the minimum required flying time — and “grow” to the “big” aircraft - to the seat of the co-pilot of a small but modern ship. But disasters on local airlines, including the lack of professional training for pilots (such as the fall of Colgan Air's Dash-8-400 in Buffalo, New York), broke this system.

In 2013, the FAA significantly tightened the conditions for hiring pilots to US airlines engaged in passenger or cargo transportation. 250 total flight hours and the presence of a commercial pilot license were not enough - 1500 hours and a linear pilot license were now required. Thus, in order to grow to the captain, it was required to fly even more 1000 hours as a co-pilot. Most new commercial pilots have no more than 250 – 300 flying hours.

The next difficulty is that in the USA the minimum age for obtaining a linear pilot license is 23 of the year, and the minimum total flight time is 1500 hours (1000, if you have a higher aviation education). There are, however, exceptions. A former military pilot without a license with 750 flying hours (one of the mentioned incentives for Air Force pilots to transfer to civil aviation), an 21-year pilot with a 1500 watch, or a college graduate with 1250 flying hours, if he received any -or aviation specialty. The latter, of course, is only possible if the college has already graduated from a rather mature pilot; most graduates of aviation colleges who have entered there from school have no more than 300 flying hours.

Thus, young pilots need somewhere else to collect 1200 hours, which at an average cost of flying around a hundred dollars makes it a very difficult task, the total solution of which is estimated at 120 thousands of dollars (and this does not take into account that obtaining a commercial license in 15 – 20 thousand). The only way out is to get an instructor at some flying school (there are almost as many in America as driving schools) and fly there with students, earning 25 – 30 dollars per hour, or even less, but in a few years you can dial the necessary hours for The Sessnach and the twin-engine Beechcraft. However, many, having accumulated 400 – 500 hours and tired of living from hand to mouth, decide to do something else, and potential graduates of flight schools, as well as colleges and universities of flight profile, looking at them, prefer not to get involved in the pilot’s profession, which leads to reduce enrollment in US flight schools.
It turns out that the pilots of major airlines have sat down at the helm in the time of the Vietnam War, retiring, and they do not change.

However, the requirement “to the right-hand seat - with an 1500 flying time” expires this year, and in order for it to retain its strength, the FAA must make an appropriate decision. Regional US airlines intend to ensure that this requirement is not extended. On the other hand, relatives and relatives of those killed in the already mentioned Dash-8-400 Colgan Air catastrophe in 2009, which was caused by the blunder of the captain and co-pilot, advocate for its preservation (although formally they had everything in order with the flight hours : the captain - 3379, and the co-pilot - 2244).

All the above-mentioned processes in the US military and civil aviation underline its, albeit diminished, but still lingering dependence on the human factor, and in the most critical control unit of the aircraft, the cockpit. This circumstance will be an additional incentive for the further computerization of aircraft, on the one hand, to further reduce this dependence, on the other - to reduce the requirements for qualification, and, accordingly, the cost of training people who will participate in the control of winged machines.
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  1. The black
    The black 1 July 2016 18: 50
    +4
    Unfortunately, our problems are about the same, so recently the GDP has signed a law that allows foreign pilots to fly civilian aircraft in Russia.
    1. Bramb
      Bramb 1 July 2016 18: 59
      -7
      It can't be!
      Who in their right mind would trust a civilian passenger airliner?
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 1 July 2016 19: 19
        +8
        Quote: Bramb
        It can't be!
        Who in their right mind would trust a civilian passenger airliner?

        Pa "g" don, but aren't the pilots already piloting civilian passenger liners? Oh God...!
        1. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 1 July 2016 19: 27
          +8
          Quote: V.ic
          Pa "g" don, and unless civilian passenger liners pilots no longer piloting? Oh God...!
          I am ashamed not to know that only pilots are piloting, and pilots just fly! wassat
          1. Al shahini
            Al shahini 1 July 2016 20: 07
            +18
            only pilots pilot, and pilots just fly! (c)
            ==================================
            That's just the pilot only piloting. He is an air cabman. Took off. walked along a controlled highway and landed. At the same time, the safety of its piloting is ensured by the maximum ground and space means and forces.

            A pilot is not a cabman but a warrior. for which the flying appart is heavier than air - a means of completing a combat mission. It does not just fly. and performs a combat mission in harsh environments.
            The pilot himself is accustomed to make decisions in conditions of not only natural but artificial obstacles created by the enemy.

            Therefore, the pilot, like a driver / driver, is trained on driving safety.
            A pilot to complete the task.

            And you are right that before you entrust a civilian liner to a combat pilot. it needs to be "polished" in terms of safety. But it's easier than making a warrior out of a pilot-driver.
            1. not main
              not main 1 July 2016 23: 53
              +2
              Quote: Al Shahini
              Al-Shahini RU Today, 20:07 ↑ New

              only pilots pilot, and pilots just fly! (c)

              In principle, everything is correct! But in our time they said simpler: a pilot is piloting, and a pilot is piloting and shooting!
            2. Ami du peuple
              Ami du peuple 1 July 2016 23: 56
              +6
              Quote: Al Shahini
              Therefore, the pilot, like a driver / driver, is trained on driving safety. A pilot to complete the task.
              Tex .. And those who control the aircraft of military transport aviation or fire and rescue aircraft of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, who are they? Pilots or pilots?
              Honestly, I always believed that a pilot is the common name for all those related to flight-lifting personnel (pilots, navigators, side arrows, etc.). But the pilot is the one who directly pilots the aircraft.
              1. sgazeev
                sgazeev 2 July 2016 11: 53
                0
                Quote: Ami du peuple
                Quote: Al Shahini
                Therefore, the pilot, like a driver / driver, is trained on driving safety. A pilot to complete the task.
                Tex .. And those who control the aircraft of military transport aviation or fire and rescue aircraft of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, who are they? Pilots or pilots?
                Honestly, I always believed that a pilot is the common name for all those related to flight-lifting personnel (pilots, navigators, side arrows, etc.). But the pilot is the one who directly pilots the aircraft.

                A pilot and on a car makes a pretzel in speed, but not a pilot. That means the pilot controls the aircraft, but as another question, flying on autopilot, take-off and landing or performing a combat mission, where there is maximum tension of mind and will. A pilot needs to be born, this from God. A pilot is an invented poetic image, so to speak. In the evening, in the evening,
                When the pilots, frankly,
                Nothing to do.
            3. sgazeev
              sgazeev 2 July 2016 11: 43
              +4
              And you are right that before you entrust a civilian liner to a combat pilot. it needs to be "polished" in terms of safety. But it's easier than making a warrior out of a pilot-driver.
            4. Simpsonian
              Simpsonian 2 July 2016 14: 58
              0
              This is strong for a "combat pilot" - in the USSR it was almost impossible for the first pilot of a bomber or transport aircraft to get on a passenger flight. Even more so from fighters.
          2. V.ic
            V.ic 2 July 2016 06: 51
            0
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            I am ashamed not to know that only pilots are piloting, and pilots just fly!

            Gut, then name 10 differences between a driver and a driver / car / and you will be "happy"! bully
            1. sgazeev
              sgazeev 2 July 2016 11: 56
              0
              Quote: V.ic
              Quote: Ami du peuple
              I am ashamed not to know that only pilots are piloting, and pilots just fly!

              Gut, then name 10 differences between a driver and a driver / car / and you will be "happy"! bully

              The driver, or driver (fr. Chauffeur - "stoker"), is the person driving the vehicle (car, wagon, bus, etc.). In addition, the driver is a person who teaches driving while being directly in the vehicle [1]. Occasionally, the pilot of an airplane is also called a driver [2].

              According to Ushakov’s dictionary, a driver was previously called a person who is a leader, mentor, patron or leader [2]. Another name for the profession is a chauffeur, which came from the French word chauffeur, which literally means “stoker”, “stoker”, which is due to the fact that coal and firewood were used as the fuel in the first steam-powered vehicles. The Rules of the Road contain a detailed definition of the term “driver”.

              In Russia at the household level, in everyday speech, an unofficial separation of the concepts of “Driver” and “Chauffeur” has developed:

              "Chauffeur" as a person professionally engaged in driving vehicles;
              “Driver” is a more general definition that includes both professional drivers and owners of a personal (private) car.
              1. V.ic
                V.ic 2 July 2016 13: 34
                0
                Quote: sgazeev
                In Russia at the household level, in everyday speech, an unofficial separation of the concepts of “Driver” and “Chauffeur” has developed:

                We did not reach 10 positions, and this was not required. You just didn’t pay attention to the fact that I was "pinned" over the user "Bramb", "Friend of People" was pinned to me, I, in turn, "pinned" over him. You should not break your brains into pieces and braid convolutions, as in the song by V.S. Vysotsky about Kanatchikov's dacha. More positive! fellow
    2. weksha50
      weksha50 1 July 2016 19: 13
      +5
      Quote: Black
      Unfortunately, we have the same problems,


      But how to say ... The article notes that in the USA "shake the bush - and the pilots will crumble from it" ... And this is real, since even in the National Guard, bakers-shoemakers-farmers fly on fighters and attack aircraft (albeit outdated) ...

      They have a problem with payment and flight clearance, and not with the number of pilots ...

      And now we have the first and foremost problem, both in civilian and in the military aviation fleet, namely in the presence of personnel, both flight and technical personnel ...

      Therefore, the "legionnaires" were allowed to pilot our aircraft ...
      And a good, experienced pilot - he has a job in the USA ...
      So who is coming here to us? To put it mildly, those who did not find themselves and their place in the United States ...

      PS Passenger plane, which crashed not so long ago at the approach, it seems, was with foreign pilots ???
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 1 July 2016 20: 59
        -7
        PS The passenger plane, which not so long ago crashed during the landing approach, seemed to be with foreign pilots ??? - Was. And you take a closer look at the film: "Only old men go to battle." There, pilots who only know how to take off go into battle.
        1. weksha50
          weksha50 1 July 2016 21: 11
          +1
          Quote: dr.star75
          And you take a closer look at the film: "Only old men go to battle." There, pilots who only know how to take off go into battle.


          Um ... They were taught to fly for 3 months ... War, my friend ... And the device was different ...

          Yes, and they cooked it like cannon fodder, owing to these reasons ... And who was lucky, or who had the gift of God from flying, and survived in the first three fights - even if not aces, like Kozhedub and Pokryshkin, however - a thunderstorm for the enemy ...

          By God, I think that you gave an unsuccessful example ... But this is my purely personal opinion ... hi

          PS And I was talking about legionary pilots on a Russian civil aircraft ... Where is the connection between the Singing Squadron and the crushed foreign crew with Russian citizens-passengers these days?
          1. dr.star75
            dr.star75 1 July 2016 22: 02
            0
            Um ... They were taught to fly for 3 months ... War, my friend ... And the plane was different ... Yes, then there was a war. Are trained foreign pilots coming now?
          2. disgraced shooter
            disgraced shooter 2 July 2016 00: 18
            0
            Um ... They were taught to fly for 3 months ..
            Yes, not three but more, for three little can be taught.
          3. Amurets
            Amurets 2 July 2016 01: 07
            +1
            Quote: weksha50

            Um ... They were taught to fly for 3 months ... War, my friend ... And the device was different ...

            Quote: weksha50
            By God, I think that you gave an unsuccessful example ... But this is my purely personal opinion ...

            Quote: weksha50

            PS And I was talking about legionary pilots on a Russian civil aircraft ... Where is the connection between the Singing Squadron and the crushed foreign crew with Russian citizens-passengers these days?

            Pilots during the Second World War really prepared as shown in the film. This is not only in the cinema, the famous ASAs Pokryshkin, Skomorokhov wrote about this, at one of the meetings with the personnel of the Komsomol garrison, A.I. Koldunov told. But other times, another technique. I fully support you. Old shots are leaving, and nowhere to take new ones.
            Quote: dr.star75

            And now we have the first and foremost problem, both in civilian and in the military aviation fleet, namely in the presence of personnel, both flight and technical personnel ...
        2. sgazeev
          sgazeev 2 July 2016 11: 59
          0
          Quote: dr.star75
          PS The passenger plane, which not so long ago crashed during the landing approach, seemed to be with foreign pilots ??? - Was. And you take a closer look at the film: "Only old men go to battle." There, pilots who only know how to take off go into battle.

          Who's the kamikaze? They taught take-off, bombing and a little air combat, landing, as there was no discipline.
    3. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog 1 July 2016 19: 20
      +5
      But we will open a cadet school with initial flight training! And voila, boys aged 16-18 will have 200-300 flying hours by the end!
      1. jaroff
        jaroff 1 July 2016 22: 44
        0
        In Akhtubinsk, such a school (school) has been operating for a long time, since the late 90s.
    4. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 1 July 2016 21: 06
      -2
      The reason is the poor nutrition and disgusting education of Americans. They are obese and behind the rest of the world. Even Indian pilots beat them constantly.
      1. sgazeev
        sgazeev 2 July 2016 12: 18
        0
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        The reason is the poor nutrition and disgusting education of Americans. They are obese and behind the rest of the world. Even Indian pilots beat them constantly.

        Either the helmet is not the right one for them, then the catapult breaks the vertebra, then the weight is needed at the level of a sheep of 60 kg. Some problems, give me the money, the oil has fallen in price. lol When the "track" was rolled, it became boring, all points became dull, up to the fifth. In 1984, the pilot met his wife in the GSVG, served in the regiment for no more than three months, from the Union. I did not sleep at night, and on the eve of the morning-day flights, how missed the doctor (doctor) is unclear. While performing aerobatics, I lost consciousness and did not come ..... I corkscrew five meters deep into Mother Earth. Perhaps the human factor. These are the pies.
    5. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 1 July 2016 21: 08
      0
      Don't ISIS train pilots? As far as I remember, the simulator has already been purchased. Apparently, there will be a sequel to the scenario of September 11th.
  2. Magic archer
    Magic archer 1 July 2016 18: 54
    +6
    Our situation was about the same in 90 x and the beginning of 2000 x. Airplanes rarely flew, and when NATO needed to be blown out of our space. Now, as far as I know, air raid has grown many times! Airplanes fly around the clock. Yes, and there are enough young people in the city , you can immediately see that not long ago from schools
    1. hirurg
      hirurg 1 July 2016 19: 06
      +4
      Removed from the tongue))). And now we are fantasizing ... How do you like our 90s, but in the states?
      1. Alex_Rarog
        Alex_Rarog 1 July 2016 19: 21
        +2
        How ZBS is finally heated !!! Let them try))))
    2. Bramb
      Bramb 1 July 2016 19: 22
      -3
      The situation is completely different. And not even approximately, but completely different.
      The raid of what and whom exactly has grown at times? Due to what and where exactly?
      Here. the campaign, many believe that the Yeroplan and Tu-154 are one and the same.
      Plaque is the main thing! )))
  3. Monos
    Monos 1 July 2016 18: 56
    +9
    In the future, this computer will be able to participate in real hostilities, controlling drones, coordinating fighters and calculating the enemy’s strategy.


    Affiget! What prospects are opening up for our EW troops! UAVs have already been planted, they say.
    1. Magic archer
      Magic archer 1 July 2016 18: 59
      +3
      The Iranians managed to land an American drone. And now, at its base, they washed down their own)))
    2. Muvka
      Muvka 1 July 2016 20: 45
      +1
      Quote: Monos
      In the future, this computer will be able to participate in real hostilities, controlling drones, coordinating fighters and calculating the enemy’s strategy.


      Affiget! What prospects are opening up for our EW troops! UAVs have already been planted, they say.

      I wanted to write the same thing. In the future, we plan to have advantages in this regard)
  4. Bramb
    Bramb 1 July 2016 18: 58
    +1
    Are there pilots in military aviation?
    1. Bramb
      Bramb 1 July 2016 19: 16
      +1
      What is negative, infantry?
      Understand the terminology first, boobies! Then put the cons.
      And then one such little friend was indignant yesterday why Gazprom is reducing prices, understanding the economy and the contract about a billion times less than a hare in oranges.
      Justify! Well, if you can, of course. We will cry over you together. )))
    2. sgazeev
      sgazeev 2 July 2016 12: 22
      0
      Quote: Bramb
      Are there pilots in military aviation?

      Everything is in aviation, even flight canteens. laughing
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 1 July 2016 18: 59
    +3
    Early on, they hoped robots would replace the pilots. I think another thirty years will be required. In the meantime, you have to learn.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 1 July 2016 19: 40
      0
      According to statistics on aviation accidents - 80% of the human factor - the time will come and all pilots will be replaced with artificial intelligence with a duplicated control system.
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 1 July 2016 21: 16
        +2
        Quote: Vadim237
        the time will come and all pilots will be replaced by artificial intelligence with a duplicated control system.



        Hmm ... I am probably an old conservative ... In such a "eroplane", with artificial intelligence as a pilot, I certainly would not sit ...
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 2 July 2016 00: 27
          0
          We like the sixth generation of fighters will do that.
          1. Amurets
            Amurets 2 July 2016 01: 20
            +1
            Quote: Vadim237
            We like the sixth generation of fighters will do that.

            As far as I know, according to the memoirs of Artyom Ivanovich Mikoyan, the British proposed a similar system 70 years ago, but still there isn’t something in any airport in the world. There are a lot of reasons for automatic landing, but for some reason all planes land on the airfield pilots, in manual mode, not automatic machines. Even drones.
        2. sgazeev
          sgazeev 2 July 2016 12: 25
          0
          Quote: weksha50
          Quote: Vadim237
          the time will come and all pilots will be replaced by artificial intelligence with a duplicated control system.



          Hmm ... I am probably an old conservative ... In such a "eroplane", with artificial intelligence as a pilot, I certainly would not sit ...

          Managed by the autopilot system, the Tesla Model S had an accident that killed a person in the car.

          Tesla Motors announced this in its official blog.

          The accident occurred on a highway in northern Florida. The car was crushed by a tractor trailer, the owner of which did not notice a car riding nearby.

          It is reported that the National Traffic Safety Administration, which is now investigating the circumstances of the accident, was immediately notified of the incident.

          According to Tesla Motors, this is the first fatal incident for more than 130 million miles of cars with activated autopilot. 80% human factor and plus automation. Sooner or later it will fail.
      2. An60
        An60 2 July 2016 05: 49
        +1
        And there will be statistics of aviation accidents -80% program factor. One of them ran over on autopilot on a Tesla car.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 2 July 2016 11: 35
          0
          At Tesla it was only one accident in several years of operation of cars with autopilot.
  6. masiya
    masiya 1 July 2016 19: 09
    +2
    Whatever it may be, it will be a robot, only a machine for optimal control and maximum application effect, machine logic is not amenable to reason and what a person will do in certain circumstances and what machine intelligence will do, one god knows, at least from a settlement turn off in unusual situations, without the program will not ...
  7. wow
    wow 1 July 2016 19: 34
    +12
    A car, even the most perfect one, will never replace a pilot. She will help him, not to enter supercritical flight modes, for example, guides him along the route, stabilizes the car in space, "leads" to the horizon, etc. But she (the machine) will never be able to assess the acceptable degree of risk and make a decision in such a situation. In general, the dream of Americans to wage a "button" war touches. You sit under an air conditioner in Texas and kill half the world somewhere in Asia ....
    1. Karasik
      Karasik 1 July 2016 19: 50
      +5
      Quote: yo-mine
      Never a car, even the most advanced, can replace a pilot.

      I completely agree! A person in a critical situation can make a non-standard decision, which is not embedded in any instruction or computer program. Up to the point of sacrificing the machine itself for the sake of saving human lives (to burn engines to critical speed to hell, turn off all automatic protection so that they do not interfere with a critical maneuver, etc.). But who knows, what idea will God himself tell the pilot in a critical situation? Nobody will tell the robot anything. He will act strictly according to the established program, and he will not turn himself off.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 1 July 2016 19: 59
        +9
        Personally, I was interested in this flyer computer. I understand that they laid in him a typical American tactics / strategy of air combat, so it is not surprising that he won against the Americans. I would very much like to see the virtual battle of this monster with a Russian pilot ...
        1. quote
          quote 2 July 2016 11: 40
          0
          Quote: sabakina
          I would very much like to see the virtual battle of this monster with a Russian pilot ...

          This will break the pattern, but then there will be an excuse about the mysterious and unpredictable "Russian soul". (If the computer loses)
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 2 July 2016 13: 36
        +1
        "disable all automatic protections so that they do not interfere with the critical maneuver, etc." ////

        This has long been impossible. Starting from the 4th generation, with the F-16. The computer will not give a jerk or burn the motors.
        Moreover, turn off the automation.
        The pilot only "gives recommendations to the computer" how to fly the plane.
        From the 5th generation - the pilot turns into a weapon operator (arrow), and the computer leads the plane.
        And in the 6th computer will lead and shoot, and the pilot will turn into a UAV operator, only coordinating
        aircraft and command actions.
    2. Al shahini
      Al shahini 1 July 2016 20: 20
      +1
      ... In general, the dream of Americans to wage a "button" war touches. You sit under an air conditioner in Texas and kill half the world somewhere in Asia. (C)
      ================================================
      Exactly! cowboys. they guys are technically depraved for the most want.)))
  8. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 1 July 2016 19: 35
    +5
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Early on, they hoped robots would replace the pilots. I think another thirty years will be required. In the meantime, you have to learn.

    I remember we had a chess computer "Kaisa" - the world chess champion, tore everyone indiscriminately, but he never became a human being. So here, a simulator is one thing, but a real apparatus with the same mathematics will no longer be so good. Although in 5-10 years it is possible and will be able to compete in a training air battle.
  9. Karasik
    Karasik 1 July 2016 19: 36
    +4
    An "ingenious" solution - if there are no funds to interest potential specialists, you can replace them with robots! I already feel "out of place" in the air - I sat down, buckled up, and that's it ... nothing depends on you, and in the event of an accident the chances of survival are very close to zero. And then there's the robot pilot (or artificial intelligence, whatever you like)! Fly, passengers, your life depends on some kind of computer!
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 1 July 2016 20: 05
      +3
      Quote: Karasik
      And then there’s the pilot-robot (or artificial intelligence, anyone else)! Fly, passengers, your life depends on some kind of computer!


      No thanks, even if there is a blonde in the left seat, but "there is nothing from Intel under the control of Windows."
  10. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 1 July 2016 19: 42
    0
    Does the suppost feel artificial intelligence to replace pilots? We also need to at least keep up with the solution to this problem.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 1 July 2016 20: 30
      +1
      Quote: Expelling Liberoids
      Does the suppost feel artificial intelligence to replace pilots? We also need to at least keep up with the solution to this problem.

      is there a "problem"?
  11. Vadim237
    Vadim237 1 July 2016 19: 47
    +5
    A bit about ALPHA itself -
    The control system of combat drones defeated a living pilot in 100% simulations of air combat

    With the increasing use of military unmanned aerial vehicles and amphibious vehicles, robots, and analytical algorithms, the world's leading armies are increasingly using artificial intelligence (AI). One of these systems is created for the management of combat drones by developers of the US Air Force Laboratories. In an article published in the Journal of Defense Management, they report that their ALPHA first handled an experienced military pilot.

    “Just as drones presented revolutionary new opportunities for the Air Force in the mid-1990s,” authors of the publication, led by Nick Ernest of the University of Cincinnati, write, “so the coordinated autonomous operation of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles in air combat will mean a revolutionary leap in Air Force ”. Such optimism is incomprehensible to us: for pilots, there seems to be no place left on board. In any case, in a series of simulations of air battles, ALPHA routinely defeated retired Colonel Gene Lee. And “defeated” here is not an exaggeration - in eight out of eight fights, the pilot not only could not hit the computer, but he himself was shot down.

    According to Ernest and his colleagues, ALPHA effectively deals with pilots, even if they are given a head start by introducing various failures into the system on a computer-controlled airplane or by limiting the capabilities of weapons. “It feels like he read my intentions and instantly reacted to my slightest move in the air, trying to launch a rocket,” says Colonel Lee, “and immediately switched from defense to attack.”

    The most spectacular here is that the work of AI did not require large computational resources. ALPHA was implemented on the Raspberry Pi platform, which is much weaker than the one used in good modern smartphones. The system used in it uses elements of fuzzy logic, which - thanks to machine learning and millions of simulations of battles conducted against other AIs - allows you to filter the data stream based on which decisions are made with great speed.

    Of the hundreds of testimonies that come to the AI, he reacts only to those that are important at the moment, and manages to evaluate hundreds of options for action before the pilot-person has time to realize the information received. As a result, ALPHA reacts instantly and without doubts: even the authors of the development call it “the most aggressive, fast-reacting, dynamic and reliable AI at the moment”.
  12. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 1 July 2016 20: 03
    +5
    Quote: Black
    Unfortunately, our problems are about the same.


    The same problems - is the annual salary of the pilot only $ 264? Those who wanted to take flight schools by storm would be in this case, and the pilots would be much more necessary, as lawyers are now, for example.
  13. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 1 July 2016 20: 08
    +7
    Back in May, American and global media outlets spread news that does not fit with the image of the United States as a great aviation power and a country where in 1903 the world's first airplane took off.

    To begin with: Alexander Fedorovich Mozhaysky, a Russian naval officer, later Rear Admiral was engaged in aerodynamic research for many years, the result of which was built in 1882, "aeronautical shell." So it was written in a patent on it in 1881. By the way, the patent for the aircraft was also the first in the world! The Wright brothers patented their device only in 1905. Mozhaisky created a real plane with all the parts that are due to him: a fuselage, a wing, a power plant of two steam engines and three propellers, a landing gear, and tail assembly. It was much more like a modern airplane with a classic layout than the Wright brothers' airplane.
    Actually, it gives me joy to read the news about the problems in the USA, well, I can do nothing request lol
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 1 July 2016 21: 24
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      Quote: gladysheff2010
      To begin with: Alexander Fedorovich Mozhaysky, Russian naval officer ...


      It has long been known that Russia - more precisely, its inventors - never knew how to use the fruits of their own labor ... Even now, and maybe - and especially now ...

      So many inventions, which the Americans themselves personally consider to be their own and the first in the world, alas, were discovered and tested before their boast - without any boast (sorry for the tautology) ...

      So let's not break the spears ... Let them be the first ... on paper and in their own swagger ...
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 2 July 2016 01: 30
        +2
        Quote: weksha50

        So many inventions, which the Americans themselves personally consider to be their own and the first in the world, alas, were discovered and tested before their boast - without any boast (sorry for the tautology) ...

        And how many Russians worked in the USA, for Americans? Only in aviation are: Kartvelli, Seversky, Sikorsky. And in other industries? Zvorykin, Theremin. You can list a lot.
  14. atamankko
    atamankko 1 July 2016 21: 31
    0
    A robot will never replace a human
    that man also programs it.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 2 July 2016 00: 30
      0
      It comes to such that the robots themselves will create and program robots.
  15. t118an
    t118an 1 July 2016 21: 40
    -1
    And what is bad about pilot McCain. The Vietnamese captivated his brains in captivity, and the clock finds where to hide .. so put the fool at the helm. They whine ....
  16. Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 1 July 2016 22: 41
    +1
    Quote: Bramb
    It can't be!
    Who in their right mind would trust a civilian passenger airliner?

    Bramb RIGHTS, by and large !!!
    It's only in the movies, everything is so cool !!!! Blobbusters, Yoshkin cat! laughing

    Quote: atamankko
    A robot will never replace a human
    that man also programs it.

    Associative relations, a person does not always think, making the right decision !!!
  17. Evgeny59
    Evgeny59 1 July 2016 22: 47
    0
    Already Saturday, 0:43, I did not understand, where does the oil and the airlines? Why does the number of pilots depend on the price of oil, are there such us or are we the same?
  18. cccr51
    cccr51 2 July 2016 04: 15
    0
    And in Rostov, the Boeing fell because modern pilots (not all) don’t know how to fly a damn thing, went into manual mode and the arrows lost everything, got used to flying in a machine, met more difficult conditions and. And we began to meet with such glaciers in the 90s, when the Eltsin-humpback devastation affected, so don’t think that our training of pilots is better, there’s nobody to fly either (,, one is afraid - the other cannot ,, - who is flying and an old grandfather). And grandfathers will soon end, there is no money for schools - they (money) chubaysyat row (saw) for themselves on ,, nanotuhlologii ,, And so we survive.
  19. njvlin
    njvlin 2 July 2016 06: 50
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    But in RUSSIA the opposite is true - oil prices are falling, while gasoline is getting more expensive. PARADOX ?? - no. It’s just that MOKHEM and DVORKOVICH haven’t stolen yet and are thinking how to transfer Russia's gold reserves abroad. sent abroad, and then SAM in Argentina with ..
  20. andrewkor
    andrewkor 2 July 2016 12: 04
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    Thanks for the very informative article! From me +.