Azerbaijan Air Force Fighter Aviation: Prospects and Development Trends

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Fighter aviation for any state in the modern world is a priority in terms of military power and dominance in the sky. Azerbaijan is one of the leaders in this direction in the Transcaucasian region. Azerbaijan's fighter aviation fleet consists of 16 units of the MiG-29S and MiG-29UB fighters, as well as 5-10 units of partially modernized Soviet-made MiG-25P and MiG-25PD fighter interceptors.


Fighter MiG-29 Air Force of Azerbaijan

It is impossible to call fighter aircraft of Azerbaijan meeting modern standards. The MiG-29 fighters, once purchased in Ukraine by Azerbaijan, have not yet been modernized to increase their combat capabilities. Thus, Azerbaijani MiG-29 fighters remain at the level of 4 generation fighters, while developed countries replenish the fleet with 4 + and 4 ++ generation fighters and only some countries (such as the USA, Russia, China, Israel, South Korea , India and Japan) are beginning to replenish their fleet of air force fighter jets 5-th generation.

For Azerbaijan, in choosing and purchasing new fighters, it is necessary to take into account many factors, one of which is that the potential enemy has a sufficiently strengthened air defense system. Another equally important factor is that not every country is ready to deliver fighter jets to Azerbaijan, citing the fact that we have an unresolved territorial military conflict. An example of such a refusal in the supply of fighters could be the fact that Azerbaijan in the 2013 year showed interest in the Swedish fighters Saab JAS 39 Gripen, but the negotiation process did not produce results due to the refusal of supplies due to the existing territorial conflict. Another similar example could also be Russia's refusal to supply Azerbaijan with MiG-35 fighters of the 4 ++ generation. Azerbaijan also wanted to buy them, but was rejected by Russia, the reason for which was either Moscow’s alliance with Yerevan, or the fear that Azerbaijan’s air force would be more powerful in the South Caucasus than the Russian air force stationed in Armenia.

However, Azerbaijan did not stop in searching for opportunities to purchase new fighters. The Sino-Pakistani fighter JF-17 Thunder became one of the interested Azerbaijani military. Talks and rumors about the plans for the purchase of these fighters by Azerbaijan have been going on for a long time.
Some sources and the media even called the number in 24 units, allegedly just as many of the JF-17 Thunder fighter jets ordered Azerbaijan. But so far, none of the official sources have confirmed the purchase of JF-17 Thunder fighter jets by Azerbaijan. Moreover, it is possible that Azerbaijan completely refused to purchase these fighters due to the fact that the JF-17 Thunder fighter jets in their tactical and technical parameters are not much different from the MiG-29 fighters of the Azerbaijani Air Force. Thus, the meaning of the purchase of these fighters completely disappears. Directly speaking, the JF-17 Thunder fighter is in fact an 4 generation fighter, no different from other fighters of the same generation, and so far completely raw, while Azerbaijan needs to strive to purchase 4 + or 4 ++ fighter jets .

If we talk about the fighter generation 4 + and 4 ++, they are presented in the following models: Russian MiG-35, European Eurofighter Typhoon, French Dassault Rafale Standart F2, American F-16IN NG and Chinese Chengdu J-39B. Among all these countries, the manufacturers of the 10 + and 4 ++ generation fighters, only one country can become a potential supplier of fighters to Azerbaijan - China. China has made tremendous efforts to build and produce military equipment, and the Chinese weapon It has long been competing with arms manufacturers from Russia, the United States and some EU countries. Separately, it should be noted that in terms of production of fighters, China has advanced far enough, and now half of the fleet of fighter aircraft of China are fighters of their own production.

However, in military-technical terms, Azerbaijan has little to do with China, and to be precise, it is not at all connected. Azerbaijan purchased a Turkish-made 21 long-range MRLS "T-300 Kasirga", which are the license equivalent of the Chinese WS-1B MRLS. And in order to fill this gap, the Azerbaijani military and officials of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan can think about establishing a military-technical connection with China. You can start just with the purchase of fighters, namely the fighter Chengdu J-10B.

Azerbaijan Air Force Fighter Aviation: Prospects and Development Trends

Multi-purpose all-weather fighter PLA Air Force Chengdu J-10B

The Chinese fighter Chengdu J-10B is an upgraded version of the base version of Chengdu J-10А. Chengdu J-10B fighters are equipped with Russian AL-31FN engines, which in the future can be replaced by Chinese WS-10A. The upgraded J-10B differs from the basic version of the J-10A radar with a phased antenna array, supersonic air intakes of a modified design, a new infrared search and tracking system, metallized spraying on the cockpit canopy to reduce radar visibility and a new electronic warfare system. Experts in the field of fighter aircraft refer Chengdu J-10B to the 4 ++ generation and note that the Chinese fighter Chengdu J-10B surpasses even some of its foreign competitors.

The purchase of Chengdu J-10B fighters by Azerbaijan will not only increase the military power of Azerbaijan in the sky, but will also give a tremendous impetus to the development of military-technical ties with China. In the future, Azerbaijan may purchase military equipment in China for other types of troops. And, if it adds even more effort to this process, Azerbaijani-Chinese relations will be developed, new opportunities will open, including obtaining a license to manufacture Chinese military equipment in Azerbaijan.
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  1. +1
    2 July 2016 15: 36
    Buy the same flu for yourself through the Turks.
    1. +10
      2 July 2016 15: 51
      Quote: Expelling Liberoids
      Buy the same flu for yourself through the Turks.

      The resale of military equipment in the world is associated with great restrictions. The Swedes will not give permission.
      1. +2
        2 July 2016 16: 14
        The Swedes will sell their fighters - to those who are willing to pay and buy (Brazil, India)
        Azerbaijan has everything.
        Sweden is not in NATO, all of them have practically all their technologies.
        Compared with the Americans, the French and the EADS, hryvnia is cheap and frankly better.

        For Ukraine was going to buy
        https://forum.pravda.com.ua/index.php?topic=793020.0
        1. +1
          2 July 2016 17: 17
          Quote: Just
          The Swedes will sell their fighters - to those who are willing to pay and buy (Brazil, India)
          Azerbaijan has everything.
          Sweden is not in NATO, all of them have practically all their technologies.
          Compared with the Americans, the French and the EADS, hryvnia is cheap and frankly better.

          For Ukraine was going to buy
          https://forum.pravda.com.ua/index.php?topic=793020.0

          The engine of the "Swede" is amerovsky, absolutely all Swedes do not manufacture their planes, the staff can suspend the sale of Swedish fighters at any time.
          1. +1
            2 July 2016 17: 47
            ? double-circuit turbojet engine Volvo Aero RM-12.? The fact that ge f404 is based on it does not mean anything.
            States do not have a "first night" right.
            Electronics edsu, brls Computers, housing and so on all their Swedish.
            States to them poboku.JAS 39X Only under the standard of NATO.
            And then CDL 39 buries Link 16 and JTIDS completely.
            Own weapons: from PCR to Mauser guns.
            South Africa, Thailand, India, Switzerland, Brazil.
            All is not NATO.
            in Ukraine on the way.
            How did Azerbaijan not come face out?
            1. 0
              2 July 2016 18: 25
              Neighbor, I am not opposed, even if Swedish fighter jets are buying, there is practically no aircraft in Armenia, they are buying it, I repeat, but I must say, either for the show-off, or for Iran, or for Russia.
              1. +3
                2 July 2016 21: 00
                The biggest problem is the suppression of Armenia’s air defense within borders and politics. Azerbaijan’s air forces can easily suppress all NKR air defense (portable MANPADS naturally do not count). Well, the Armenians are not stupid either .... not stupid at all. In case of serious air defense losses, they can to transfer the remains to the territory of Armenia proper, on which Azerbaijan cannot beat. Obstacle - CSTO. A direct blow to anything on the territory of Armenia will be the actual declaration of the CSTO (and the actual collapse of the CSTO, because Kazakhstan and Belarus will certainly refuse to declare war, contrary to the agreement) ... It was for those who were not in the subject wink
                1. +1
                  2 July 2016 21: 08
                  Quote: HERMES
                  The biggest problem is the suppression of Armenia’s air defense within borders and politics. Azerbaijan’s air forces can easily suppress all NKR air defense (portable MANPADS naturally do not count). Well, the Armenians are not stupid either .... not stupid at all. In case of serious air defense losses, they can to transfer the remains to the territory of Armenia proper, on which Azerbaijan cannot beat. Obstacle - CSTO. A direct blow to anything on the territory of Armenia will be the actual declaration of the CSTO (and the actual collapse of the CSTO, because Kazakhstan and Belarus will certainly refuse to declare war, contrary to the agreement) ... It was for those who were not in the subject wink

                  Hermes, I won’t write much, I’m tired, but I’ll say that the Collective Security Treaty Organization is a paper tiger and in the event of a strike against Armenia no one will fit into it.
                  1. 0
                    2 July 2016 21: 32
                    Quote: razmik72
                    Hermes, I won’t write much, I’m tired, but I’ll say that the Collective Security Treaty Organization is a paper tiger and in the event of a strike against Armenia no one will fit into it.


                    And yet, the factor of the CSTO (read Russia) and the 102nd base of the Russian Federation has the most powerful effect of braking the Azerbaijani Armed Forces according to the plans to strike against Armenia from "mainland Azerbaijan" and Nakhchivan. By agreement with Russia (the policy is two-faced), we can recapture the territories to Goychay (Sevan ) and the region of Kapan and Syunik. But we will be careful not to bring the 102 base from Gyumri outside Armenia to the territory east of Gyumri, Spitak, Vanadzor, Hrazdan, Yerevan.

                    By the way ... Razmik ... did my drug come to you? I have doubts that my drugs reach the addressee)
                  2. 0
                    2 July 2016 22: 14
                    And one more thing ... Razmik ... You probably know what kind of gimmick went with stopping the DB in April ... Serge is speaking that Aliyev almost crawled at the feet of Putin and Shoigu, just that Armenia would stop its "offensive" ... In Baku they say the opposite ... and to be honest ... from the point of view of sound logic (and not an Azeri), I think the second option is more plausible ... but what do you think ... what is the attitude in Armenia itself about this? you know more than me what is going on "on the other side of the barricades" in relation to me drinks
                  3. 0
                    3 July 2016 23: 05
                    Quote: razmik72
                    I’m tired, but I’ll say that the Collective Security Treaty Organization is a paper tiger and in the event of a strike against Armenia no one will fit into it.

                    Russian fighters will be based there in Armenia, and if Azerbaijan attacks Armenia, do you really think that our troops will remain on the sidelines?
                    Remember South Ossetia, the country is not a member of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, but Russia intervened (suppressed Georgian air defense, destroyed several ships during the naval battle, as well as almost all boats in the port of Poti, in addition, Tochka-U missiles launched at Georgian military facilities), here the more it intervenes.
              2. 0
                2 July 2016 21: 08
                As for the Azerbaijani Air Force ... I am categorically against (my opinion would have mattered lol ) purchases of Western aviation by our Air Force. Firstly, it is expensive, there is no real superiority of performance characteristics over Russian or Chinese (imagine) counterparts, a long-distance and very unreliable material base (it makes no sense to buy tons of "spare parts" due to their obsolescence for 7-10 years (mainly concerns electronics, radars, etc.)).

                I really want to see in the Azerbaijani Air Force: SU-35 (not a lot, 8 pieces). Su-30 in the SM version), bring the number of Su-25 to 24 units. (UB does not count) and the SM3 version, the fabulous Su-34 (if possible, in the new M-package wink ) Yak-130 ... and replace our already slightly older IL-76 with the variant IL-76MD-90A.

                As for the dragonfly park smile ...
                Ka-52 .. here without options:
                , Mi-17-B5 in style for India:

                Mi-24 Super Hind Mk.4 (Mk.5 South Africa for a couple with the Ukrainians mutilated) Mi-35M, and a couple of Mi-26T2.

                As they say, dreaming is not harmful wassat
                1. +3
                  2 July 2016 21: 19
                  But a more realistic option is Chinese counterparts with improvements to Israel close to us.
                  Shenyang J-11B:

                  J16:




            2. 0
              2 July 2016 22: 20
              Quote: Just
              ? double-circuit turbojet engine Volvo Aero RM-12.? The fact that ge f404 is based on it does not mean anything.
              States do not have a "first night" right.
              Electronics edsu, brls Computers, housing and so on all their Swedish.
              States to them poboku.JAS 39X Only under the standard of NATO.
              And then CDL 39 buries Link 16 and JTIDS completely.
              Own weapons: from PCR to Mauser guns.
              South Africa, Thailand, India, Switzerland, Brazil.
              All is not NATO.
              in Ukraine on the way.
              How did Azerbaijan not come face out?


              In general, Swedes are handsome ... they have a very good design idea in the field of aviation ... for a long time.

              The most respectable for its time and one of the most beautiful fighters: SAAB Draken 35:


      2. 0
        4 July 2016 09: 15
        They can be rented from the Turks. Although the Chinese will be more promising. he has more curb weight.
    2. +4
      2 July 2016 15: 54
      You can start with the purchase of fighters,

      - Armenia, in view of their not very steep economy (compared to Baku), can only ask Russia for the S-300. And in this case, not only China, but also the USA will not help Azerbaijan. Asymmetry, however ...
      1. +4
        2 July 2016 16: 55
        S-300s have been standing in Armenia for a long time, a couple of dozen aircraft for the Armenian air defense is not a problem!
    3. +3
      2 July 2016 18: 33
      Azerbaijan has long wanted to renew its air force. Yes, the economic crisis erupted inappropriately. But sellers still periodically declare themselves. Judging by interviews and publications, there were contacts with Pakistan (JF-17 Block 3 improved version) and Russia (Su-30). By and large, the choice is small. Western countries do not sell, and they have very expensive, the same Typhoons and Rafali, at the expense of the Swedes and Chinese have not been heard before. And by and large, modern aviation is not so important to us now. Karabakh is not so hot such a large territory. MLRS and long-range artillery with high-precision shells will take on most of the tasks. A pair of EW aircraft would not hurt to blind air defense radars.
    4. -4
      3 July 2016 08: 20
      Quote: Expelling Liberoids
      Buy the same flu for yourself through the Turks.

      If Azerbaijan behaved normally, it would be possible to amicably agree with the Armenians, Russia would help to find an acceptable result for both one and the other side, the main thing for Azerbaijan would not be problems not with airplanes with other weapons!
  2. +3
    2 July 2016 15: 36
    Apparently, due to international restrictions on the sale of military aircraft to Azerbaijan, buying from China is the only way out. In principle, the purchase of 40-60 cars immediately changes the balance of power in the region.
    1. -4
      2 July 2016 20: 02
      What do they "calve" in Baku? Field Marshal Zaavi has already approved to immediately change the balance of power in the region! Baku still has "graters" with Erivan, and so you look and the Russians will start!
    2. 0
      3 July 2016 23: 09
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      In principle, the purchase of 40-60 cars immediately changes the balance of power in the region.

      It is unlikely that we would be talking about such a quantity (40-60 units), most likely no more than 20-25, all the same, even Chinese fighters are quite expensive.
  3. 0
    2 July 2016 15: 38
    In Azerbaijan’s place, I would be interested in the latest version of the F-15 silent eagle with reduced radio visibility. Amazing car ...
    1. +3
      2 July 2016 15: 50
      Quote: carpag
      In Azerbaijan’s place, I would be interested in the latest version of the F-15 silent eagle with reduced radio visibility. Amazing car ...

      Neither the United States, nor Europe, nor Russia will sell combat vehicles to Azerbaijan. Either China or Pakistan remains. Perhaps India will bring its Tejes in the near future.
      1. +1
        2 July 2016 16: 10
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: carpag
        In Azerbaijan’s place, I would be interested in the latest version of the F-15 silent eagle with reduced radio visibility. Amazing car ...

        Neither the United States, nor Europe, nor Russia will sell combat vehicles to Azerbaijan. Either China or Pakistan remains. Perhaps India will bring its Tejes in the near future.

        And what about Israel, doesn’t it produce aircraft? So much technology has been sold to Azerbaijan, that this one cannot be sold?
        1. +3
          2 July 2016 18: 26
          Quote: razmik72

          And what about Israel, doesn’t it produce aircraft? So much technology has been sold to Azerbaijan, that this one cannot be sold?

          Since 1984, only upgrades. Friends and strangers.
          1. 0
            2 July 2016 20: 04
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            Quote: razmik72

            And what about Israel, doesn’t it produce aircraft? So much technology has been sold to Azerbaijan, that this one cannot be sold?

            Since 1984, only upgrades. Friends and strangers.

            So upgrade the available from Azerbaijan, if they want it.
        2. -1
          2 July 2016 20: 07
          The question is interesting, why? Field Marshal Zaavi cares so much about Baku
          1. -1
            2 July 2016 20: 24
            Quote: Monarchist
            The question is interesting, why? Field Marshal Zaavi cares so much about Baku

            "Field Marshal Zaavi" smile he admitted more than once or twice that he loves Azerbaijan and its people. As they say, there are no friends for the taste and color fellow .
            1. +11
              2 July 2016 20: 33
              Quote: razmik72

              "Field Marshal Zaavi" smile he admitted more than once or twice that he loves Azerbaijan and its people. As they say, there are no friends for the taste and color fellow .

              Well yes. There is such a letter. My relatives who got to Baku during the evacuation stayed there and I was twice a boy with them. I have not seen a kinder and more hospitable city in my life. And then, when confronted with immigrants from Azerbaijan in Israel, I heard from them only kind words about Azerbaijan and the complete absence of atisemitism. Why should I feel bad about this State?
              1. +4
                2 July 2016 20: 41
                Thanks, AARON ZAAVI! This is mutual!
              2. 0
                3 July 2016 23: 14
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                Well yes. There is such a letter. My relatives who got to Baku during the evacuation stayed there and I was twice a boy with them. I have not seen a kinder and more hospitable city in my life. And then, when confronted with immigrants from Azerbaijan in Israel, I heard from them only kind words about Azerbaijan and the complete absence of atisemitism. Why should I feel bad about this State?

                So, after all, Azerbaijan is an ally of Turkey, and Israel and Turkey have strained relations? Is not it?
      2. -2
        2 July 2016 16: 19
        Israel will sell, but it will sell ships.
        And why won't the US and Europe "sell"?
        Azerbaijan is not a member of the Collective Security Treaty Organization; it is the same in the CU.
        USSR NO.
        What are the problems to "sell"?
        A. Just do not buy: expensive
    2. -1
      2 July 2016 16: 17
      Then you can sell the last pants
      From $ 100 000 to 2009 (now + 20-30% likely).
      And spare parts, but what?
    3. -1
      2 July 2016 17: 30
      Americans will not sell for sure.
    4. -1
      2 July 2016 18: 23
      Quote: carpag
      On the site of Azerbaijan, I would be interested in the latest version of the F-15 silent eagle

      They are probably interested. They just won’t be able to buy - a heavy fighter with the latest avionics they obviously can not afford
    5. 0
      2 July 2016 18: 23
      Quote: carpag
      On the site of Azerbaijan, I would be interested in the latest version of the F-15 silent eagle

      They are probably interested. They just won’t be able to buy - a heavy fighter with the latest avionics they obviously can not afford
    6. +1
      3 July 2016 18: 07
      "F-15 silent eagle with low radio signature. Amazing machine ..." ///

      Only very expensive. For 120 million pieces. And the radio visibility, although lowered, but many, many times higher than that of the Raptor and Lightning.

      There will be a lot of used F-16s on the market soon. As they gradually, in different countries, begin to replace the F-35.
      F-16, however, require very careful maintenance.
      1. 0
        3 July 2016 23: 16
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Only very expensive. For 120 million pieces. And the radio visibility, although lowered, but many, many times higher than that of the Raptor and Lightning.

        So it turns out even more expensive than the F-35th by 20 million.
        Quote: voyaka uh
        F-16, however, require very careful maintenance.

        But almost any F-16 can be upgraded to the modern level (modification "Viper").
    7. 0
      3 July 2016 23: 13
      Quote: carpag
      In Azerbaijan’s place, I would be interested in the latest version of the F-15 silent eagle with reduced radio visibility. Amazing car ...

      No wonder, this F-15 silent eagle was made in one single copy and so far no country has decided to buy it, F-35 is suitable for rich countries, for them the F-15SE is already outdated morally and technically, and for the poor F-15SE countries are too expensive, they are more likely to buy the F-16V or the latest version of the Flu.
  4. 0
    2 July 2016 15: 46
    It all depends on financial capabilities. There is a demand and there will be an offer.
  5. +8
    2 July 2016 15: 51
    "Baku2 is afraid not of the aviation of Armenia or Russia (in connection with its base), but of the rise in the military power of Iran. Moreover, they border on the Caspian Sea. They still share the" bottom. "Since Azerbaijan is walking in the wake of Turkey (in terms of family relations ), then fighter aircraft is needed only as a counterbalance to Iran. ”For Karabakh, you need to buy" assault "aircraft.
    1. -3
      2 July 2016 16: 01
      Azerbaijan is in the wake of Turkey (by kinship), then fighter aircraft is needed only as a counterweight to Iran

      Yes, all the rules they have with Iran. In addition, they both profess Shiism ...
      1. +3
        2 July 2016 18: 41
        I will disappoint some. For the Türks, the tenth thing is what is the use of Islam to profess. We are not Arabs or Persians. Very many frankly do not even know which branch of Islam they belong to.
    2. 0
      3 July 2016 23: 18
      Quote: rruvim
      "Baku2 is afraid not of the aviation of Armenia or Russia (in connection with its base), but of the rise in the military power of Iran. Moreover, they border on the Caspian Sea. They still share the" bottom. "Since Azerbaijan is walking in the wake of Turkey (in terms of family relations ), then fighter aircraft is needed only as a counterbalance to Iran. ”For Karabakh, you need to buy" assault "aircraft.

      Iran was interested in buying Su-30SM from Russia, but the UN Security Council resolution prohibits the supply of offensive weapons to Iran, so for now we are supplying 5 S-300 divisions.
  6. +5
    2 July 2016 15: 53
    We need to sell the MiG-35 to Azerbaijan, anyway, we’ll either get it from someone, and you can control the situation in the service sector, modernization throughout the entire life cycle, on the other hand, in the sphere of the Russian Federation’s intention, to buy the MiG-35 in our Air Force, the more of them we’ll build, the cheaper it is for us in a series, it will cost, in the third the release of these machines has not yet been adjusted, so the arrival of these machines in the Azerbaijani Air Force will be quite slow and will not be able to dramatically change the situation in the region, in the fourth it will make Armenia cough up, or ask for a loan, to establish equilibrium, I think the Armenians should understand that if not us, then others will sell planes to Azerbaijan, thereby Moscow’s influence in the region will weaken, which will face more instability for Armenia than a couple dozen MiGs. Sincerely.
    1. +5
      2 July 2016 16: 34
      Quote: akribos
      We need to sell the MiG-35 to Azerbaijan, anyway, we’ll either get it from someone, and you can control the situation in the service sector, modernization throughout the entire life cycle, on the other hand, in the sphere of the Russian Federation’s intention, to buy the MiG-35 in our Air Force, the more of them we’ll build, the cheaper it is for us in a series, it will cost, in the third the release of these machines has not yet been adjusted, so the arrival of these machines in the Azerbaijani Air Force will be quite slow and will not be able to dramatically change the situation in the region, in the fourth it will make Armenia cough up, or ask for a loan, to establish equilibrium, I think the Armenians should understand that if not us, then others will sell planes to Azerbaijan, thereby Moscow’s influence in the region will weaken, which will face more instability for Armenia than a couple dozen MiGs. Sincerely.

      Recently, the authorities and the opposition in Armenia came to an agreement on the upcoming parliamentary elections, for their accurate holding 15-16 million dollars are needed, now they beg from everyone, stating that there is no such money in Armenia. And you say that the sale of several dozen MIL- 35 will force Armenia to fork out and buy something in order to neutralize Azerbaijani purchases, which I strongly doubt, because in order to fork out, the country needs to have this wallet. Armenia, to my regret, is a bankrupt country, which after so many years of outright robbery of the country from the side of the so-called Armenian "elites" it is not surprising. Now Armenia is in a deplorable state and in the place of the Azerbaijanis I would buy bomber aircraft with good smart guided bombs and missiles to sweep away the air defense of Armenia.
      1. +1
        3 July 2016 23: 21
        Quote: razmik72
        Now Armenia is in a deplorable state and on the site of Azerbaijanis I would buy bomber aircraft with good smart guided bombs and missiles to sweep away the air defense of Armenia.

        With the growing danger of conflict, Russia can transfer S-400 and Su-30SM / 34 / 35C there, and maybe Iskander. The CSTO is a matter of principle, if Russia cannot defend an ally, then this military bloc is worthless.
        1. +1
          4 July 2016 00: 09
          Quote: Lt. air force reserve
          if Russia cannot defend an ally, then this military bloc is worthless.

          Well, he’s been penniless for a long time. Think Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Belarus will go against Azerbaijan ??? April events showed the opposite situation. Therefore, there is no CSTO bloc. There is RUSSIA and EVERYTHING.
  7. +2
    2 July 2016 15: 59
    Quote: avvg
    If Azerbaijan has financial capabilities, they will find from whom to purchase these fighters. There is a demand and there will be an offer.

    Dear, you either did not read the article, or you read inattentively. the main countries of the producing country will not supply Azerbaijan with new generation equipment due to existing contractual restrictions, unlike China, which have not signed such agreements (it is so beneficial for it, or other countries have agreed with it, remains a secret).
    1. -1
      2 July 2016 16: 21
      And what kind of "contractual restrictions"?
      Azerbaijan under sanctions?
      Do you have UN resolutions?
      Here is Israel against Israel (Golan) and FSU.
      5 generations of the US supply and technology transfer
  8. 0
    2 July 2016 16: 09
    Quote: carpag
    In Azerbaijan’s place, I would be interested in the latest version of the F-15 silent eagle with reduced radio visibility. Amazing car ...

    In the desert promised lands, it may come in handy until it runs into an old meter range radar (D = 150-180km), such as P-12, -18. And there, in the tribes, for sure there is, they throw nothing away! lol
  9. 0
    2 July 2016 16: 23
    "Chengdu" is a swift dragon for China .. In the version for Azerbaijan - "Azerdu" - "Carrier of pizza, flowers and tomatoes" ..
  10. 0
    2 July 2016 17: 12
    More terrible than a cat there is no beast. In Armenia, Russia has a single air defense system. How many planes will it take to test this system for durability? I don’t even understand why Azerbaijan’s fighters? Who does he want to fight with?
    1. +4
      2 July 2016 17: 24
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      More terrible than a cat there is no beast. In Armenia, Russia has a single air defense system. How many planes will it take to test this system for durability? I don’t even understand why Azerbaijan’s fighters? Who does he want to fight with?

      Azerbaijan needs fighters either for Pontus, or against Russia or Iran; against Armenia, they were better off buying bombers with smart long-range air-to-ground missiles. And as for the air defense, first of all Azerbaijan will start fighting in Karabakh and the united air defense will not give Armenia anything in this regard, the Russians, as always, calmly point out that Karabakh is not part of Armenia and they will not defend it. hi .
      1. -1
        2 July 2016 17: 56
        Quote: razmik72
        Azerbaijan needs fighters or for Pontus, or against Russia or Iran


        Hmm ... So far has it gone ??? laughing
      2. +3
        2 July 2016 18: 03
        Quote: razmik72
        , the Russians, as always, will calmly point out that Karabakh is not part of Armenia and they will not protect it.

        That's right and we will do it.
        1. 0
          2 July 2016 18: 19
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Quote: razmik72
          , the Russians, as always, will calmly point out that Karabakh is not part of Armenia and they will not protect it.

          That's right and we will do it.

          And who says that you are not doing the right thing, exactly the same situation developed in April of this year, when Russia not only did not intervene in the conflict, but also added fuel to the fire. For example, Rogozin is not the last person in the leadership of Russia in the "hot" days of the April battles in Karabakh, in response to requests from the Armenian leadership to restrict the export of Russian weapons to Azerbaijan, he wrote on his Twitter very cynically:
          "We have sold and we will sell".
          I am not at all surprised by this approach of the Russian leadership to the leadership of Armenia - no one in the world does not stand on ceremony with the sixes. And after all this, the "authorities" of Armenia will ratify the agreement on common air defense with Russia in parliament, as if there were no recent battles in Karabakh and Russia did not show her attitude towards Armenia. This signed treaty on the unified air defense system is exactly the same fiction as the CSTO treaty.
          1. +2
            2 July 2016 18: 42
            Quote: razmik72
            when Russia not only did not intervene in the conflict, but also added fuel to the fire.

            Do you not think that only thanks to Russia did Azerbaijan not cleanse Karabakh?
            Quote: razmik72
            Russia has not shown its attitude towards Armenia.

            On key issues, Armenia often did not support Russia, to put it mildly.
            Quote: razmik72
            And after all this, the "authorities" of Armenia will ratify in the parliament an agreement on a common air defense with Russia

            Yes, because they understand that it is such an agreement, like membership in the CSTO, that protects Armenia, and not Russia.
            1. +4
              2 July 2016 19: 12
              Quote: Vladimirets
              Quote: razmik72
              when Russia not only did not intervene in the conflict, but also added fuel to the fire.

              Do you not think that only thanks to Russia did Azerbaijan not cleanse Karabakh?
              Quote: razmik72
              Russia has not shown its attitude towards Armenia.

              On key issues, Armenia often did not support Russia, to put it mildly.
              Quote: razmik72
              And after all this, the "authorities" of Armenia will ratify in the parliament an agreement on a common air defense with Russia

              Yes, because they understand that it is such an agreement, like membership in the CSTO, that protects Armenia, and not Russia.

              Of course, only Russia's efforts to "contain" bully Azerbaijan saves Karabakh from Azerbaijani sweeps, good efforts, nothing to say, even in the days of the April battles in Karabakh, Russia continued to supply weapons to Azerbaijan. After the battles ended, Azerbaijan had claims to Russia about the equipment it delivered to Azerbaijan, so the Russians urgently sent to Baku instructors for deeper education of Azerbaijanis.
              Well, of course, Armenia did not support Russia on key issues. These are just your unfounded accusations. And I will give a specific example - 2014, a UN vote on Crimea’s affiliation. Armenia supported Russia and was among the 11 countries that did this. - Where was your favorite ally of Lukashenko and Nazarbayev?
              And finally, the CSTO treaty - it does not protect Armenia and the Russian base in Gyumri stands to protect the "authorities" of Armenia who sold Armenia with giblets. This base does not play any protective function. Last year, on the border of Armenia with Azerbaijan, real battles broke out with the use of heavy technology, I emphasize, not in Karabakh, but on the border of Armenia with Azerbaijan, and I emphasize that there was not even a single condemnation of Azerbaijan's actions from the CSTO, let alone assistance.
              1. 0
                2 July 2016 19: 21
                Quote: razmik72
                where was your favorite ally Lukashenko

                Belarus also voted against the UN resolution on Crimea.
                Quote: razmik72
                And finally, the CSTO treaty - it does not protect Armenia and the Russian base in Gyumri is worth it to protect the "authorities" of Armenia who sold Armenia with giblets.

                They put her right for Sargsyan. Yes
                Quote: razmik72
                . Last year, real fights with the use of heavy equipment broke out on the border of Armenia with Azerbaijan, I emphasize, not in Karabakh, but on the border of Armenia with Azerbaijan

                Armenia declared war on Azerbaijan?
                1. +1
                  2 July 2016 20: 17
                  Quote: Vladimirets
                  Quote: razmik72
                  where was your favorite ally Lukashenko

                  Belarus also voted against the UN resolution on Crimea.
                  Quote: razmik72
                  And finally, the CSTO treaty - it does not protect Armenia and the Russian base in Gyumri is worth it to protect the "authorities" of Armenia who sold Armenia with giblets.

                  They put her right for Sargsyan. Yes
                  Quote: razmik72
                  . Last year, real fights with the use of heavy equipment broke out on the border of Armenia with Azerbaijan, I emphasize, not in Karabakh, but on the border of Armenia with Azerbaijan

                  Armenia declared war on Azerbaijan?

                  It turns out that you are aware that Belarus voted in support of Russia on the Crimea issue, you are better informed than I, so what the hell do you write that Armenia did not support Russia in a number of issues. In one of the most important issues, it supported Russia, but you still sing here, that in a number of questions, no.
                  As for the Russian base, I agree with you that it was not for the sake of Serge Sargsyan that you installed this base, but the circumstances were such that any next president of Armenia could raise the question of the advisability of staying 102 bases in Armenia before Russia.
                  1. 0
                    2 July 2016 20: 26
                    Quote: razmik72
                    any next president of Armenia can put before Russia the question of the advisability of staying 102 bases in Armenia.

                    I do not want to hinder your pride, but as long as there is Azerbaijan and Turkey, not a single Armenian president who is in his mind will drive out our base and leave the CSTO.
                    1. +1
                      2 July 2016 20: 50
                      Quote: Vladimirets
                      Quote: razmik72
                      any next president of Armenia can put before Russia the question of the advisability of staying 102 bases in Armenia.

                      I do not want to hinder your pride, but as long as there is Azerbaijan and Turkey, not a single Armenian president who is in his mind will drive out our base and leave the CSTO.

                      Our "sane" presidents led the country to a total confrontation with Azerbaijan, for example, to the loss of Armenia's sovereignty on many issues, and it is possible to come to an agreement with Turkey and Azerbaijan if Armenia is a subject of politics, not an object. Nobody agrees with vassals. and does not take them seriously.
                      1. +2
                        2 July 2016 21: 57
                        Quote: razmik72
                        Our "sane" presidents led the country to a total confrontation with Azerbaijan, for example, to the loss of Armenia's sovereignty on many issues, and it is possible to come to an agreement with Turkey and Azerbaijan if Armenia is a subject of politics, not an object. Nobody agrees with vassals. and does not take them seriously.


                        It is possible to come to an agreement with Turkey ... with Azerbaijan it is much more difficult. If it is to come to an agreement, it will start a “movement” when half of the NKR will be under the control of Azerbaijan, and such an “agreement” will only be possible if Russia withdraws the base from Armenia and abandons Armenia as vassal (as you say) ... Azerbaijan, having taken control of the second half of Garabakh, will not stand on the border with Armenia."The battery on the phone has run out ... I can't hear you well".... - in short, there will be no "negotiation" and the army will move further towards Ararat.

                        I always said ... Garabagh did not and will not bring the Armenians anything but trouble and death. Having captured Garabagh, you lost Armenia ...

                        Garabagh ... this is Caucasian Afghanistan ...
                  2. 0
                    2 July 2016 20: 41
                    Quote: razmik72
                    any next president of Armenia can put before Russia the question of the advisability of staying 102 bases in Armenia

                    - I wonder how much time after that he will be the President of Armenia. feel
                    1. +2
                      2 July 2016 20: 54
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      Quote: razmik72
                      any next president of Armenia can put before Russia the question of the advisability of staying 102 bases in Armenia

                      - I wonder how much time after that he will be the President of Armenia. feel

                      If he is not a puppet of Moscow and will enjoy the support of the people, then who knows how much?
                      1. 0
                        2 July 2016 21: 05
                        Quote: razmik72
                        If he is not a puppet of Moscow and will enjoy the support of the people, then who knows how much?

                        - Remind you about the "elektromaydan" last year? Or about where in Armenia weapons are taken (free of charge, by the way)
                        - your position strongly resembles one "small but proud birdies"

                        Nothing personal, by the way. Just try to think before you write something. Yes
                      2. 0
                        2 July 2016 21: 43
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Quote: razmik72
                        If he is not a puppet of Moscow and will enjoy the support of the people, then who knows how much?

                        - Remind you about the "elektromaydan" last year? Or about where in Armenia weapons are taken (free of charge, by the way)
                        - your position strongly resembles one "small but proud birdies"

                        Nothing personal, by the way. Just try to think before you write something. Yes

                        And then "elektromaydan" and my comment.
                        And as for the supply of weapons, so Russia for three years has not supplied Armenia a single cartridge.
                      3. +1
                        2 July 2016 22: 04
                        Quote: razmik72
                        And here "elektromaydan" and my comment

                        - mdya ... okay, let's go laughing

                        Quote: razmik72
                        For three years now, Russia has not delivered a single cartridge to Armenia

                        - but what about this?

                        Quote: http://rusvesna.su/news/1462288120
                        03.05.2016 The process of arms supplies to Armenia from the Russian Federation under a loan agreement is already underway, spokesman for the Minister of Defense of Armenia Artsrun Hovhannisyan stated on Tuesday
                      4. +1
                        2 July 2016 22: 09
                        Quote: razmik72
                        And as for the supply of weapons, so Russia for three years has not supplied Armenia a single cartridge.


                        A loan of 200 million Baku went to Serge’s pocket, but will the people pay?
                  3. 0
                    2 July 2016 20: 47
                    I do not pretend to be accurate. There is simply such a beast as geography and chronology. The base in Armenia was BEFORE the conflict. It stood and stands against Turkey. We are not talking about any involvement in the Karabakh conflict.

                    There was such a version. The base in Armenia stands just to control Serzhik. This is exaggerated. In general, it has a great influence on the generals and political leadership of Armenia. And if you slightly shift the emphasis? When establishing relations with Turkey, Russia may raise the question of the appropriateness of 102 bases in Armenia. Huh?
                    1. +1
                      2 July 2016 21: 27
                      Quote: Bakht
                      I do not pretend to be accurate. There is simply such a beast as geography and chronology. The base in Armenia was BEFORE the conflict. It stood and stands against Turkey. We are not talking about any involvement in the Karabakh conflict.

                      There was such a version. The base in Armenia stands just to control Serzhik. This is exaggerated. In general, it has a great influence on the generals and political leadership of Armenia. And if you slightly shift the emphasis? When establishing relations with Turkey, Russia may raise the question of the appropriateness of 102 bases in Armenia. Huh?

                      Bakht, 102 the base is in Armenia, so as not to support Armenia, I do not believe in supporting the base, everything speaks about this, and if the Armenians find a common language with you and the Turks, then let Russia raise the question of withdrawing its base, personally I will not particularly grieve about this.
                      1. +1
                        2 July 2016 21: 39
                        I'm not against. But how will the Armenians find a common language with the Turks and us?

                        Personally, the 102nd base does not bother me. And the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan too. April showed it. So the question of the 102nd base is not even worth discussing. Whether she is or not, nobody really cares.
                      2. 0
                        2 July 2016 21: 49
                        Personally, you and the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan, he will begin to "interfere" when our army stands at the borders of Armenia, leaving behind the blazing fire of the NKR. We must look a little further. The slightest chance of capturing Armenia without the threat of an attack by the Russian Federation ... Azerbaijan will not end the war until it comes to fields in front of Ararat.
                      3. +2
                        2 July 2016 22: 10
                        I'm not so bloodthirsty. If all this is the case, then I can sleep peacefully. The 102nd base of the RF Armed Forces in no way affects the Karabakh conflict. And it seems that Azerbaijan has no other conflicts.
                      4. -1
                        3 July 2016 00: 59
                        when our army will stand at the borders of Armenia, leaving behind the flaming NKR fire.

                        when OUR army will stand off the coast of the Mingachevir reservoir, leaving behind a blazing fire of Ganja.
                      5. 0
                        3 July 2016 16: 01
                        It does not bother you, but those who are involved in politics, rather than writing in tyrnets, are very bothersome.
                      6. -1
                        3 July 2016 15: 59
                        How do you find a common language? There is only one condition - the return of Karabakh to the full control of Baku without any autonomy, etc. Even if we assume that they will give autonomy, then in a few years it was also canceled by the de facto. Are you ready for such concessions?
                        After the bases in Syria, 102 in essence is not needed, since it can be deprived of supplies at any time.
                  4. +1
                    3 July 2016 15: 55
                    Quote: razmik72
                    any next president of Armenia can put before Russia the question of the advisability of staying 102 bases in Armenia.

                    If such a president exists, then the Russian leadership will reward him with a hero of the Russian Federation. Besides the headache, she does not give us anything.
                    I don’t understand where you get such arrogance from Armenians. What do you think the United States will take under your protection?
                2. +1
                  2 July 2016 21: 06
                  No Azerbaijanis occupied half of the Armenian territory, but the Russians helped. But seriously: try to leave Yerivan without any help, what will happen to them then? razmik the person is not stupid, but anger prevents him from breathing. Interestingly, all the Armenians believe that they are the last mongrels of the Russians and we "dunk" them
              2. +1
                3 July 2016 00: 45
                Well, there was help. Even on the part of GLONASS and AES intelligence. Plus diplomatic efforts, plus "personal" ultimatums, so the so-called "reconnaissance in force" did not work for Azerbaijan. Although, admit, the losses of armored vehicles in the early stages of the militia of Nagorno-Karabakh and the army of Armenia were large.
          2. -2
            2 July 2016 18: 49
            Quote: razmik72
            And after all this, the "authorities" of Armenia will ratify in parliament an agreement on a common air defense system with Russia, as if there were no recent battles in Karabakh and Russia did not show its attitude towards Armenia. This signed agreement on a joint air defense system is exactly the same fiction as the CSTO treaty.

            Did Azerbaijan have to be reset? Like and so understood
          3. 0
            2 July 2016 20: 52
            I have already told you that I heard from my Azeri acquaintances: "Russians interfere, etc." For example, yesterday at the market (you can laugh) I spoke with a Baku resident. Allegedly a major artelerist. He asserted that the Armenians as warriors are complete ... One Azerbaijani career soldier, etc. He said: "Every soldier knows that Karabakh has not yet been rolled out due to Moscow's interference. The Armenians have you as they want, and you protect them, etc."
            1. +5
              2 July 2016 21: 07
              This is ridiculous -) I also often hear such conversations. They are led mainly by those who do not want to fight. It’s more convenient to talk in the market.

              Some of the greats said "the amount of intelligence on the planet is a constant value. And the population is growing." Alas...
              1. 0
                3 July 2016 16: 11
                So the Armenians are too tough for you? Cool to hear it from Azer.
                1. +1
                  3 July 2016 22: 03
                  Any enemy is "tough". How did you come to this conclusion is unclear. War is "not our method." The question moved from the realm of hysteria into the mainstream of normal discussions. And here Azerbaijan has a clear advantage. We have an advantage in all resolutions, international law, logic and the general situation in the region. You just need to correctly implement it.

                  Why do we fight? I will give one example, and then let those who are capable of it think. About a month and a half ago I was corrected in the population. I agreed not to escalate the situation. Boring but have to think a little. Wikipedia and my opponents here assure me that the population of Nagorno-Karabakh is 150. I am sure that it is less than 000. I can explain. The population of Armenia over the past 100 years has decreased from 000 million to 25 million. Plus or minus a tram stop. That is 3,5%. During this same time, as I am convinced, the population of Nagorno-Karabakh increased from 3 to 15. That is, it increased by 120%. I will never believe that life in Nagorno-Karabakh is two times better than in Armenia. There is a lot of literature of Armenian demographers that the figures are fake. I can provide links, but it will take a lot of time. Google the Internet and everything will become clear.

                  Now tell me, why do we need 4th, 5th and nth generation fighters? They will die out. I repeated a hundred times: Armenia won the war and lost the world. This is the basis of geopolitics. You can’t live in conditions of war. They live in peace. And Armenia can get peace on quite certain conditions.

                  Answering your question. Answer from Azeri: we do not need to win the war against Armenia. We need to win peace for Azerbaijan. It's as simple as two fingers on the asphalt. You just need to think intelligently.
                  1. 0
                    4 July 2016 08: 44
                    Now tell me, why do we need 4th, 5th and nth generation fighters? They will die out.

                    And do not hope. Armenians have been living in their land for millennia. And they will live forever while this ball is spinning. And Armenia did not have such enemies. And instead of counting the population of Armenia and the NKR, it’s better to think about why in Moscow, where you don’t spit, you’ll definitely get into az-nza. With such petrodollars, you would live like in Kuwait, and you will run to Moscow.
          4. 0
            3 July 2016 00: 36
            I'm not sure that Rogozin is "blabbed". Can it be taken out of context? He is the deputy prime minister for the military-industrial complex, not the foreign minister like Lavrov. His task is to "sell" to whom it is not his task.
      3. +1
        2 July 2016 20: 30
        Size, please forgive such a question: Azerbaijan is already on its head, what for the Pontus to buy the latest aircraft, that there is nowhere to put money? Especially against Russia. It seems that there are no such conflicts, but to compare 40 with a maximum of 60 4 + and the Russian C300, and even more so the latest modifications and SU35. Sorry, but I'm not always friends with T9
      4. 0
        3 July 2016 23: 24
        Quote: razmik72
        And as for the air defense, so Azerbaijan will begin to fight in Karabakh first and the united air defense will not give Armenia anything in this regard, the Russians, as always, will calmly point out that Karabakh is not a part of Armenia and they will not defend it

        Long-range air defense systems can cover Nagorno-Karabakh with an "umbrella", and A-50U AWACS planes or the A-100 that appeared by that time will direct missiles at targets, South Ossetia is also an unrecognized republic, but Russia intervened.
  11. 0
    2 July 2016 18: 07
    By the way, an interesting moment with MiGs. It turns out again, as with Iran. Those countries for which flight range is not a determining factor are denied supplies for political reasons. Let me remind you that Yeltsin cut down on the supply of MiG-29s to Iran, so that the United States would like it once again. Well, then the arguments about the "progressiveness" of Su and the wretchedness of MiGs begin, because as if no one wants to buy MiGs.
  12. 0
    2 July 2016 19: 17
    What prospects and development trends for fighter aircraft can even exist if the country itself is not building anything?
    There is a question of material possibilities and offers, if any.
    All tendencies fit into the classic - "I have a desire to buy a house, but I have no opportunity. I have the opportunity to buy a goat, but I have no desire."
  13. +5
    2 July 2016 19: 23
    The article is just a retelling of Internet posts. Well, we read about various fighters. The article is called "the prospects of Azerbaijan's fighter aviation". As noted here, Armenia has practically no aviation. Who will the 4 ++ or even the 5th generation fighters fight with? Or is Azerbaijan's wallet bottomless?

    There are a couple of dozen fighters and that's enough. Almost every year, pilots participate in joint exercises with the Turkish Air Force. That is, they have a good practice.

    An interesting indicator such as cost-effectiveness matters. In this scenario, the cost will be huge, and the efficiency is minimal due to the absence of the enemy. Or, for the sake of interest, to check how the S-300 acts against 4 ++ or even 5 fighters?

    My opinion is that the state armed forces should be balanced and built in accordance with military doctrine. According to our military doctrine, Azerbaijan has no obvious opponents except Armenia. And against it, there are enough available fighters. But the state needs the Air Force. That is the whole reason why procurement negotiations are not very active. Due to the global crisis, show Azerbaijan initiative and there will be sellers. And forget about any restrictions. But so far there is no interest on the part of the buyer.

    I realized that the author is smart, well-versed, knows how to use the Internet. But there are no conclusions on the Internet, and therefore there are no conclusions in the article itself.
    1. 0
      2 July 2016 22: 40
      Very sound reasoning ... +

      We need the God of War - Artillery. Any ... mortars, howitzers, self-propelled guns, self-propelled guns, and many ... like the DPRK does ... that can be buried in the ground in just a few minutes, the entire unit of the South Korean armed forces located at the 38th parallel, and not only them. It’s not bad to start communication with the Chinese military-industrial complex with deliveries of PLZ-05 and PLZ-07 self-propelled guns. The self-propelled guns are cheap and good ... better than the D-30 ... it’s time for us to switch from towing to self-propelled artillery.










  14. +2
    2 July 2016 19: 25
    given the current rate of oil and unclear prospects for its growth, I doubt that Azerbaijan will buy anything in the next 5-7 years. As it was written in one of the articles, "along with the fall in oil, the Baku economic miracle ended."
    1. 0
      3 July 2016 00: 30
      Not only Baku. but also Kurdish, but also Tajik, but etc.
  15. 0
    2 July 2016 22: 08
    All these are purely Azerbaijani show-offs. And this article as well.
    Azerbaijani, this is LILIPUT, who is struggling to show everyone that he allegedly is something of himself.
    So it makes no sense to discuss what this midget wants to buy or not to buy.
    1. +2
      2 July 2016 22: 29
      Quote: Fhvty
      Azerbaijani, this is LILIPUT

      Whose cow would moan ... if "Azerbazhan" is a midget ... then what is Armenia?)
      For now, drive your new and only T-90 through the streets of Yerevan.

      By the way ... you haven't been seen for a long time. Without you, even a bazaar in the comments is not interesting to arrange (harvest tomatoes and watermelons with us this year is meager ... can you "help"?) All the time the feeling that someone is missing)
      And my eyes are still calloused by your gray epaulettes ... well, I don’t like this color) Let it be painted green with shades of yellow in the form of stripes wassat
      1. -2
        3 July 2016 00: 31
        Whose cow would moan ... if "Azerbazhan" is a midget ... then what is Armenia?)
        For now, drive your new and only T-90 through the streets of Yerevan.

        And what has Armenia to do with it. Armenia is also far from being a giant, but unlike you, it does not show off at all. And you just have to rename your wretched Air Force to the VKS. Then you will write with pride: "Fighter aviation of the Azerbazhan military SPACE FORCES.
        By the way ... you have not been seen for a long time. All the time, the feeling that someone is missing)

        Well, maybe because I'm a busy person than you. Cases, you see.
        And my eyes are still calloused by your gray epaulette ... Let it be painted green with shades of yellow in the form of stripes

        Well, open all my comments and give me the pros.))) Although to be honest, I’m kind of on the drum.
        1. +1
          3 July 2016 00: 38
          Quote: Fhvty
          Well, open all my comments and give me the pros.))) Although to be honest, I’m kind of on the drum.

          C'mon ... everyone loves these fint sticks)))
          Quote: Fhvty

          Well, maybe because I'm a busy person than you. Cases, you see.

          Well, I have a lot of free time at work ... I read books half of the time ... I hang out on the Internet half) I will tell you the hard work) Not everyone can do it)
  16. 0
    3 July 2016 00: 28
    This entire article is written about the fact that Azerbaijan is ready to cooperate with China in any framework. "Silk Road" or some other transit ... Moreover, Russian engines. If we are to spend money. to really not on the J-10, but as it was correctly noted here on the J-11B. Still multifunctional. Anyway, except with Armenia, who are they going to fight with?
  17. 0
    3 July 2016 09: 29
    here is stupidity, Jews vparivat Azerbaijan so that they endlessly fought with the Armenians, yes it is necessary to develop the economy and not Israel grandmother to throw them to the Caspian are torn and use both Armenians and Azerbaijanis as suckers
    1. +4
      3 July 2016 17: 52
      "they are torn to the Caspian Sea" ////

      Not only to the Caspian. We Zionists have sinister exit plans
      tank wedges to the Pacific ... wassat Just please do not chat about it bully. Why did you think in Merkava dry closet? -
      so that, without stopping the car at the wee tankers, to drive to the Pacific Ocean (across the Caspian).
      1. 0
        3 July 2016 22: 07
        Oh, and this nasty thing is a dry closet. Better for the bush. Does the chariot really have this muck?
  18. +1
    3 July 2016 15: 13
    Quote: Aspeed
    Quote: razmik72
    Well, of course, it was in Karabakh, but what if Russia would have defended it, but who would doubt it. Last year there were harsh clashes not in Karabakh, but on the border of Armenia itself, and where Russia was with CSTO?

    1) So I still didn’t hear - at least Armenia itself somehow intervened in the conflict in Karabakh? Armenia, as a state, and not the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, which a) is not even recognized as a smyma by Armenia b) besides Karabakh itself, has occupied a couple of Azerbaijani regions and, frankly, is it an occupier in these territories anyway?
    2) If even Armenia does not want to officially get down to the conflict in Karabakh - then why should Russia intervene? What a strange approach - let Russia fight for you, and you Armenia will look from the side, and after that it will look - will it agree to favorably be friends with Russia or will it even think?
    3) There were regular shelling on the border of Armenia and Azerbaijan, and again, frankly, from both sides. What official military actions did Armenia take that would allow Russia to intervene at the military level? Armenia worked through diplomatic channels, resolving the conflict - Russia did the same. Or, again, the same question - Russia must fight for you, but you yourself stand by aside?

    There’s no need to fight for us. Just don’t sell modern weapons to Azerbaijan because Armenians will be killed from it. It’s like your allies. That's all. There are no and no other complaints against Russia. And Azerbaijan can buy up all the weapons in the world - this will not help solve many years the conflict will only create the illusion of superiority and the temptation of a military solution. The Armenians will never live with the Azerbaijanis in one state. And they will not leave their land. Are the Azerbaijanis ready to conduct ethnic cleansing?
    1. +1
      3 July 2016 16: 23
      You then pay us the money for the weapons that we supply you. Azerbaijan will buy from others, and you from whom.
  19. +1
    3 July 2016 15: 55
    A minus justify weak?
  20. +2
    3 July 2016 16: 25
    Quotation: blooded man
    You then pay us the money for the weapons that we supply you. Azerbaijan will buy from others, and you from whom.

    And you all measure in money?
    1. -1
      3 July 2016 20: 14
      Of course. We also want people to eat.

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