Acting Commander of the Baltic Fleet appointed Vice Admiral Alexander Nosatov

It became known about the appointment of the interim commander of the Baltic fleet. Recall that on the eve of Sergei Shoigu announced the removal from office of representatives of the Baltic Fleet, including directly the commander of Vice Admiral Viktor Kravchuk. The official reason for the removal of Kravchuk was named the reason of the following nature: serious omissions in the organization of combat training, the daily activities of the troops, as well as distortions in the reports of the real state of affairs.

RIA News with reference to a source in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reports that Vice-Admiral Alexander Nosatov was appointed Acting Commander of the Baltic Fleet.

Vice-Admiral Nosatov headed the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet, after which he was appointed to the post of head of the Academy of the Russian Navy.

Alexander Nosatov was born 27 March 1963, in Sevastopol. In 1985, he graduated from the Black Sea VVMU named after PS Nakhimov. He began his service as a naval officer as a commander of the anti-aircraft missile battery of the destroyer “Resistant” (Pacific Fleet).

In 2000, he graduated from the Naval Academy named after NG Kuznetsov, and in 2009, the Military Academy of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces. In the same year, 2009 was appointed to the post of commander of the Baltic naval base of the Baltic Fleet of the Russian Federation. In this regard, it can be stated that Alexander Nosatov is not a stranger in the Baltic Fleet.

Comments

[St Petrov]

Following the command of Vice Admiral Kravchuk and Chief of Staff Sergei Popov, a total of 50 admirals and captains of the 1st rank of the Baltic Fleet were dismissed. On Thursday, June 30, reported the publication "Fontanka".

By order of the Minister of Defense Sergey Shoigu, most of the commanders of units and formations, their deputies and other senior officers were removed from their posts. According to the publication, the same fate awaits a number of other officers.

these are the pies. This is the first time in my memory

[Khariton]

Quote: c-Petrov

Following the command of Vice Admiral Kravchuk and Chief of Staff Sergei Popov, a total of 50 admirals and captains of the 1st rank of the Baltic Fleet were dismissed. On Thursday, June 30, reported the publication "Fontanka".

By order of the Minister of Defense Sergey Shoigu, most of the commanders of units and formations, their deputies and other senior officers were removed from their posts. According to the publication, the same fate awaits a number of other officers.

these are the pies.

I would shoot ....

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Chariton

I would shoot ....

Have you ever shot a man?

[Khariton]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Chariton

I would shoot ....

Have you ever shot a man?

Why do you need it, shot and looked in your eyes? Enough of the romances ... Go knock to the admin! Draftsman ... and a thief!

[Banishing liberoids]

Khariton-caught stealing, or was he standing on a dud? Give evidence !!! Or move the broom.

[Mikhail Matyugin]

Quote: Chariton

Why do you need it, shot and looked in your eyes? Enough of the romances ... Go knock to the admin! Draftsman ... and a thief!

Perhaps Alexander Romanov said so, because usually only those who have never shot a living person in their life, but they only held the gun conditionally say such things about shootings with ease.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Chariton

Go knock to the admin!

But why?

Quote: Chariton

Why do you need it, shot and looked in your eyes?

No, of course, it's just interesting how a person easily passes sentences.

Quote: Chariton

Draftsman ... and a thief!

Why did I steal it?

[RUSS]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Why did I steal it?

I was also very interested in this, we are waiting for someone Khariton to answer this.

[Monarchist]

Captain, do you have any facts that Romanov is a thief? Poarmic ethics, when an officer accuses the officer of stealing and without arguments dismissal from service. And according to the concepts of the boys for the bazaar must be answered ...

[RUSS]

Quote: Chariton

. Go knock to the admin! Draftsman ... and a thief!

Are you thumping?

[Banishing liberoids]

Alexander Romanov, he kills in computer games for the day in the division. That confused reality with the game.

[Khariton]

Quote: Expelling Liberoids

Alexander Romanov, he kills in computer games for the day in the division. That confused reality with the game.

No, he’s not like that, but sometimes he brings him ... He’s normal, he’s still a man (I watched for a long time ..) But you are very strange .. (judging by the nickname and comments)) Although I have seen many of them (in my short life. .)))

[Banishing liberoids]

Hariton, actually I wrote it about you sir !!!!!!!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Expelling Liberoids

Hariton, actually I wrote it about you sir !!!!!!!

What did you dig into it? Do not judge strictly a musician ...

[RUSS]

Quote: Chariton

But you are very strange ..

Paranoid or paranoid psychosis is a personality disorder accompanied by delusions of a different nature, more often actions and threats. Hallucinations are uncharacteristic. There is no obvious organic cause of the disease. It can be either an isolated syndrome, a manifestation of schizophrenia or the result of abuse.
The words of others are perceived as threats, hints. This applies not only to those whom the patient considers to be enemies, but also to all those around him. The patient sees hints even in completely harmless phrases, it seems that people look at him too closely, wink, agree on something behind him.
Ideas about betrayal by friends, colleagues. Having arisen once, these ideas constantly find confirmation for themselves. The patient sees slanting glances, whispers whisper, he suspects everyone around him in the conspiracy.
Inadequate response to criticism. Paranoid psychosis causes a sharp impatience to all kinds of criticism. The smallest remarks, attempts to correct something done by the patient are perceived sharply negatively. The patient sees in these gestures signs of a general conspiracy with the goal of harming him, hiding his evil from him. Even completely sincere concern is perceived as a disguise for a conspiracy.
Inability to forgive, resentment. All insults, including far-fetched ones, are remembered by the sick and serve as a source of constant reproaches to relatives. Even in cases where the patient is clearly wrong, he does not recognize this, and he perceives the situation as yet another confirmation of the general conspiracy.

Quote: Chariton

No, he’s not like that, but sometimes he brings him

Brings you !!!!
Paranoia (dr. Greek παράνοια, literally - “puzzling”) is a type of thinking disorder, a strangeness that occurs with a number of mental illnesses and brain damage. In the classical view, paranoia sufferers are characterized by an unhealthy suspicion, a tendency to see the machinations of enemies in random events, to build complex conspiracy theories against themselves, while preserving in another logical thinking. In paranoia, the content of pathological situations often includes many elements of reality, formally plausibly associated with the patient's painful representations, or based on them. Paranoia is a lifelong chronic condition with periods of exacerbation and subsidence of clinical symptoms. In many cases, individual signs of paranoia develop in old age with degenerative processes in the brain (for example, with atherosclerotic lesions of the blood vessels of the brain, Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, Huntington's disease, etc.). Transient paranoia can cause the intake of psychodysleptics - drugs, amphetamines, alcohol, many types of drugs

[The black]

Have you ever shot a man?

..When he played Indians ... Why would a guy ask such questions? He is still small. He has a vacation. No, so that as all the children go for a walk, there’s no sitting, watching. Patriot! Haritosh, if you were going to play with the kids. Why do you need adult uncles talking?

[Revolver]

Quote: Chariton

Quote: c-Petrov

Following the command of Vice Admiral Kravchuk and Chief of Staff Sergei Popov, a total of 50 admirals and captains of the 1st rank of the Baltic Fleet were dismissed. On Thursday, June 30, reported the publication "Fontanka".

By order of the Minister of Defense Sergey Shoigu, most of the commanders of units and formations, their deputies and other senior officers were removed from their posts. According to the publication, the same fate awaits a number of other officers.

these are the pies.

I would shoot ....

In the old days, they fired, because they valued honor. And now they have the honor ... in different positions.

[Dam]

Here, such a resignation in the imperial navy - a shot in the mouth from a gun with sea water in the trunk. But now it’s kind of not accepted, and they appreciate the cheaper cheaper.

[Monarchist]

I beg your pardon, but I was interested in the detail: "... with sea water in the barrel." I am a history lover and I esteem the monarchy (the nickname himself says about it), but I haven’t read anything. Maybe you missed it?

[Dam]

Pikul, "Three Ages of Okini - San".

[Parsec]

Fade sheet. Summer is passing.
Hoarfrost is silvering ...
Junker Schmidt from a pistol
He wants to shoot himself.

Junker or the midshipman is free to shoot, he did not fully answer for himself, not like a whole fleet.

In no case should the fleet commander shoot after retirement - wait for the conclusion of the investigation, trial, and clarification of circumstances. Then, if the torment of conscience or the pain of humiliation is intolerable, you can shoot.
Before that, you need to understand that you can hang anything on a deceased person, including treason, but it is no longer possible to justify oneself.

Water in Nagan - has anyone tried? Extremely wet and fussy process.
The storyteller was Pikul.

[Dam]

With a trunk in the mouth, instant. The fluid spreads pressure in all directions. The barrel will fly away with a bullet of water and powder gases, instant death

[aksakal]

Quote: Nagan

In the old days, they fired, because they valued honor. And now they have the honor ... in different positions.

- in Japan harakiri are still doing About five years ago, some Yapian minister, caught in theft, made this operation for himself, they discussed it here, dreamed that our rulers would take it as a rule, but came to the conclusion that with this approach we would generally remain without the Government
Fact is a fact, but I hope Kravchuk will revive and remember the good old maritime tradition

Quote: Damm

shot in the mouth of a gun with sea water in the trunk.

True, I don’t know what kind of sea water is in the trunk, how it can kill, and why doesn’t the breakdown fail? I think Kravchuk can do without such nuances, and a gun is not necessary, PM or whatever admirals are completely taken into account as a time sheet. Au, Kravchuk and Co., we are waiting for courageous deeds.

[dauria]

. Au, Kravchuk and Co., we are waiting for courageous deeds.

Rozhdestvensky, Nebogatov, Enquist ... There seemed to be enough reasons. So it looks like the followers of the tradition "naughty and in the bushes." And fairy tales in the Pikul style are useless. And without tales of decent people in the fleet were, are and will be. And the trash, well, where can I do without them ...

[Banishing liberoids]

Khariton - from which he shot - from a computer mouse?

[Koshak]

Quote: Chariton

I would shoot ....

Another shooter, damn it, with his calls to shoot everyone and throw Iskander, Poplar and Caliber on everyone. How did you get it with your stupid suggestions. You are definitely a relative of Yulia Timoshenko, who called for the destruction of Russia "from atomic weapons." How many such idiots have been divorced lately.

[RUSS]

Quote: Chariton

I would shoot ....

My neighbor would have told you, "what a x ... drew!"

[razmik72]

And what does the priest do with the icon along with the officer? I am not a believer and I don’t know anything about religious rites in the army.
And the fact that so many officers were fired is both a good sign and a very bad sign.

[Khariton]

Quote: razmik72

And what does the priest do with the icon along with the officer? I am not a believer and I don’t know anything about religious rites in the army.
And the fact that so many officers were fired is both a good sign and a very bad sign.

Our business is right ramzik ​​...))))

[lysyj bob]

Quote: razmik72

And what does the priest do with the icon along with the officer?

The RF Armed Forces have recently had an institute of military priests. Here is one of them and blesses "for deeds", so to speak.

[Verdun]

Quote: razmik72

And what does the priest do with the icon along with the officer?

Yes, when you look at the photo, you first try to understand which of the characters is the admiral ...

[Monarchist]

When the State Father was in place. Blank IK. Introduced their religion and their fathers. At first, party workers were needed, but then degenerated into "pomp" - idlers! When the "leading and directing" was canceled and immediately the roll in the other direction. And in Christianity and Islam (I was specially interested) there are many necessary and similar things, you need to observe the measure. What if the admiral is a Muslim or an idolater?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: s-t Petrov

these are the pies. This is the first time in my memory

Bloody regime began cleaning!

[Khariton]

Quote: Alexey RA

Quote: s-t Petrov

these are the pies. This is the first time in my memory

Bloody regime began cleaning!

Finally waited ....)))

You will succeed!

[RUSS]

Quote: Chariton

Finally waited ....)))

You will succeed!

Hard covers you!

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: Alexey RA

Bloody regime began cleaning!

They would take the bloody in quotation marks - I would agree.

[tiredwithall]

Quote: c-Petrov

these are the pies. This is the first time in my memory

Real cleaning is not the largest fleet. Allow me only one amateurish question: who was cleaned out - honest servants or career rogues?

[St Petrov]

most commanders of units and formations, their deputies and other senior officers

I think good people with such a composition are not pressed in such a difficult time

[Monarchist]

That's right, but the distant think differently

[Verdun]

Quote: tiredwithall

Real cleaning is not the largest fleet. Allow me only one amateurish question: who was cleaned out - honest servants or career rogues?

To suppose that everything is so bad in one fleet and normal in others, for example, I would not risk it. And if the matter is theft, then where are the charges, lawyers and human rights defenders? Just to dismiss - for thieves this is not a punishment. And if there is another fault, I would like to understand what it consists of. At least in order not to get involved in it yourself.

[Mengad]

There are lawyers and prosecutors .. only the military. Here you can see and the commander forgot that he is a military man and orders must be followed.

[Sailor]

Maybe it’s like in the 37th conspiracy. It’s just that they don’t fire such a number, even the skin of Makarov left with the star of the hero.

[Monarchist]

Do you also have sins? Urgently inform S.K.

[sgazeev]

Quote: Verdun

Quote: tiredwithall

Real cleaning is not the largest fleet. Allow me only one amateurish question: who was cleaned out - honest servants or career rogues?

To suppose that everything is so bad in one fleet and normal in others, for example, I would not risk it. And if the matter is theft, then where are the charges, lawyers and human rights defenders? Just to dismiss - for thieves this is not a punishment. And if there is another fault, I would like to understand what it consists of. At least in order not to get involved in it yourself.

What are the lawyers? The Military Prosecutor’s Office, military investigators are engaged in this. They also said that you should.

[weksha50]

Quote: tiredwithall

Allow me only one amateurish question: who was cleaned out - honest servants or career rogues?

According to information - about 50 admirals and captains of the first rank...

Among them, the second, as a rule, is more than honest servants ... And this is not only with us ...

[Vladimirets]

Quote: weksha50

And this is not only with us ...

And not only in our time.

[Monarchist]

Right said

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: s-t Petrov

Popov dismissed a total of 50 admirals and 1 captains of the Baltic Fleet rank.

All command flew at once.

[figwam]

Quote: c-Petrov

Following the command of Vice Admiral Kravchuk and Chief of Staff Sergei Popov, a total of 50 admirals and captains of the 1st rank of the Baltic Fleet were dismissed. On Thursday, June 30, reported the publication "Fontanka".

By order of the Minister of Defense Sergey Shoigu, most of the commanders of units and formations, their deputies and other senior officers were removed from their posts. According to the publication, the same fate awaits a number of other officers.

these are the pies. This is the first time in my memory

It seems there is something that we don’t even need to know.

[Revolver]

Quote: figvam

It seems there is something that we don’t even need to know.

This is how legends are born about the "innocent and massively repressed" ... well, or about the "entrenched gang of enemies of the people", depending on the degree of infection with liberalism.

[figwam]

Quote: Nagan

Quote: figvam

It seems there is something that we don’t even need to know.

This is how legends are born about the "innocent and massively repressed" ... well, or about the "entrenched gang of enemies of the people", depending on the degree of infection with liberalism.

Do you think that you will lay out the whole truth? Well, after 50 years, maybe yes.

[Revolver]

Quote: figvam

Well, after 50 years, maybe yes.

By then, it will be forgotten, unless the next type of Khrushch comes to power and decides to earn political points by branding repressions of the bloody Stalin Putin's regime.

[Koshak]

Quote: figvam

It seems there is something that we don’t even need to know.

Yeah. But I still trust Kozhugetovich. Apparently there is not a frail "gadyushnik" dug up. And what the hell? Enclave, around the border with the EU - NATO. Maybe something stuck to the playful little hands. It is not for nothing that all Western media are aware of how Russian forces in Kaliningrad are arming themselves, moving around, and in general, how a Russian soldier goes to the toilet.

[sgazeev]

Quote: Koshak

Quote: figvam

It seems there is something that we don’t even need to know.

Yeah. But I still trust Kozhugetovich. Apparently there is not a frail "gadyushnik" dug up. And what the hell? Enclave, around the border with the EU - NATO. Maybe something stuck to the playful little hands. It is not for nothing that all Western media are aware of how Russian forces in Kaliningrad are arming themselves, moving around, and in general, how a Russian soldier goes to the toilet.

I agree, they probably arranged a "quiet backwater". The region is not simple.

[Monos]

Quote: figvam

It seems there is something that we don’t even need to know.

Probably there is enough. But I think that in the first place they exchange peacetime generals and admirals for people who are able to make decisions in a combat situation.

[sgazeev]

Quote: Monos

Quote: figvam

It seems there is something that we don’t even need to know.

Probably there is enough. But I think that in the first place they exchange peacetime generals and admirals for people who are able to make decisions in a combat situation.

And where are the generals and admirals of peacetime? Zhukov and Rokossovsky received a general in peacetime before Hassan. So Kravchuk lacked an organizational vein, it happens, it grows up to big stars, and initiatives go to zero, only strictly according to instructions.

[79807420129]

Quote: s-t Petrov

Following the command of Vice Admiral Kravchuk and Chief of Staff Sergei Popov, a total of 50 admirals and captains of the 1st rank of the Baltic Fleet were dismissed.

It’s famously, the whole top, that we don’t know what we know above.

Quote: s-t Petrov

. This is the first time in my memory

Not only in your memory is this the first time.

[Ros 56]

Quote: s-t Petrov

these are the pies. This is the first time in my memory

Everything is fine, so in fact things started to move. I wish there were civilian officials who took it. It’s easier to hope for Dima to shoot himself.

[Pitot]

Such a suspicion that perhaps there was some kind of conspiracy among the officers. But this is the question. For me, there are two options - either a return to socialism or a banal betrayal for avoiding responsibility in connection with certain economic crimes.

[Monarchist]

Major General, you can immediately cut out the first (I heard from friends that they had been sent there long ago to the Soviet past and the last thing they want was his return. Consequently, the second remains

[Denis Obukhov]

And who started up a rumor about the Ukrainian admiral? Nosatov is a real Russian sailor, not a parquet admiral.
He and a mop in his hands, to bring order to the oldest fleet of Russia ...

[Denis Obukhov]

Finally, this swamp began to alarm, throughout the country would also.

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: s-t Petrov

these are the pies. This is the first time in my memory

On mine too. In my opinion, there aren’t so many ships on such a breakthrough of officers of this rank throughout the DCBF.

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: s-t Petrov

these are the pies. This is the first time in my memory

On mine too. In my opinion, there aren’t so many ships on such a breakthrough of officers of this rank throughout the DCBF.

[varov14]

Damn, I'm a civilian and I don't understand these games, this is the headless fleet, what did you think about before? This reminds me of the events before the war, about which a lot has been written, somehow everything was crap at first. Is this a reasonable personnel policy, at first we sleep, and then after scratching our turnips we make hasty decisions, it was possible for two years not to chew snot, but to find out in advance all the podnagotny of our subordinates. And if the Pacific, Northern, Black Sea fleets are digging deeper now, what then? "Lieutenants" are promoted to commanders of armies in a war (according to talent) and then in a civil war, in peacetime this does not happen.

[1vlad19]

Pacific Fleet, Northern Fleet, Black Sea Fleet, unlike the BF, participated in the "Syrian Express", and the Baltic Fleet, then a fire, then a breakdown, then the minesweepers fail the exercises.

[sgazeev]

Viktor Petrovich Kravchuk. He began his service as commander of a navigational combat unit of a patrol ship. From 1983 to 1987 he was commander of a missile boat in the Pacific Fleet. In 1987-1988 he studied at the Higher Special Officer Classes of the Navy. From 1988 to 1999 he served as chief of staff and commander of a crew of missile boats. In 1997 he graduated in absentia from the Naval Academy named after Admiral Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov. In 1999-2000, he served as head of the armament and weapons operation service - deputy commander.

From 2000 to 2002 he studied at the Military Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces. At the end of the academy, in 2002-2003, he was deputy commander, and from 2003 to 2005, he was chief of staff of the Caspian flotilla. In 2005 he was appointed commander of the Caspian Flotilla. He served in this post until 2009.

On December 26, 2009, by decree of the President of Russia, he was appointed deputy commander of the Baltic Fleet [2].

Since May 2012, he was acting commander of the Baltic Fleet, on September 14, 2012, he was appointed commander of the Baltic Fleet [3]. Surely, the Baltic Fleet was overgrown with shells. The Baltic Fleet was always on the edge against the sworn "partners", it is impossible to overgrow in any way.

[soroKING]

unearthed some nest

[St Petrov]

the oldest nation on earth already writes that this is a riot.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: s-t Petrov

the oldest nation on earth already writes that this is a riot.

Throw off the link, otherwise it's boring.

[sdc_alex]

They believe that we have a different Baltic Fleet commander.

[razmik72]

Quote: c-Petrov

the oldest nation on earth already writes that this is a riot.

I’m afraid to run into minuses, but I don’t know such dismissals in the Russian fleet since the collapse of the USSR, everything may be rebellion, not rebellion, but officers could make complaints and dismiss them like that.

[Monarchist]

Claims of what kind?

[sgazeev]

Quote: razmik72

Quote: c-Petrov

the oldest nation on earth already writes that this is a riot.

I’m afraid to run into minuses, but I don’t know such dismissals in the Russian fleet since the collapse of the USSR, everything may be rebellion, not rebellion, but officers could make complaints and dismiss them like that.

In August 1976 to the officers of the fleet brought top secret
order informing: “July 6–13, 1976 Military Collegium of the Supreme Court
The USSR considered a criminal case against the traitor of the Motherland Sablin V.M., unauthorized
November 9, 1975 from the port of Riga towards Sweden a large anti-submarine
the ship (BOD) "Watchdog", and its active accomplice Shein A.N. During the trial
The defendants fully pleaded guilty and gave detailed
knowledge of the crime ... The military college, taking into account the gravity of the crime
Sablin crime sentenced him to an exceptional sentence - mortal
executions (execution). Shein sentenced to 8 years in prison with the first two
years in prison. "

[mamont5]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: s-t Petrov

the oldest nation on earth already writes that this is a riot.

Throw off the link, otherwise it's boring.

So go on the censor sophisticated. There is the main mouthpiece of Svidomo.

[avg-mgn]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: s-t Petrov

Popov dismissed a total of 50 admirals and 1 captains of the Baltic Fleet rank.

All command flew at once. cool

Why are you surprised? NATO bases at a distance of a gun shot. Checks were held in almost all districts, presumably there were organizational conclusions, but the scale was different. Here (Leningraders and Petersburgers forgive me) it really looks like the admirals and generals lost their scent - they scored them in the service, in their homeland. Agree, just like that generals don't get fired from the army (thrown down in the worst case), and here with the dismissal. Perhaps we will also hear about criminal cases.

[Banishing liberoids]

And how could this be-they knew that the stigma in the gun but endured for the time being? And how will it all end? They will blame them like a stool and expel them to retirement, or ,,, ???

[pokermen]

Apparently someone took a bite out of rank)

[demotivator]

And rightly so. Only now I’m not very sure that simply dismissal with dismissal is an adequate measure for the collapse of the fleet.
Stalin brought to trial the commander of the USSR Air Force, General Rychagov, for the very collapse and window dress. "The leadership of the Air Force often hides from the government the facts of accidents and disasters, and when the government discovers these facts, the leadership of the Air Force tries to gloss over these facts, resorting in some cases to the help of the People's Commissar of Defense ..."
By the way: Rychagov, commanding military aviation, brought her condition to the point that about 600 aircraft were lost in accidents per year - almost a third of what was then produced in the country. He was shot for this.
Something tells me that the restoration of the 58th article in the Criminal Code in some cases would benefit the country and the people.
And dismissal with suspension is unjustified and inadmissible vegetarianism. Only a fool is unclear that the Kaliningrad exclave today is becoming the MAIN DIRECTION OF A POSSIBLE SHOCK IN RUSSIA and an exact analogue of pre-war Prussia.

[razmik72]

Quote: demotivator

And rightly so. Only now I’m not very sure that simply dismissal with dismissal is an adequate measure for the collapse of the fleet.
Stalin brought to trial the commander of the USSR Air Force, General Rychagov, for the very collapse and window dress. "The leadership of the Air Force often hides from the government the facts of accidents and disasters, and when the government discovers these facts, the leadership of the Air Force tries to gloss over these facts, resorting in some cases to the help of the People's Commissar of Defense ..."
By the way: Rychagov, commanding military aviation, brought her condition to the point that about 600 aircraft were lost in accidents per year - almost a third of what was then produced in the country. He was shot for this.
Something tells me that the restoration of the 58th article in the Criminal Code in some cases would benefit the country and the people.
And dismissal with suspension is unjustified and inadmissible vegetarianism. Only a fool is unclear that the Kaliningrad exclave today is becoming the MAIN DIRECTION OF A POSSIBLE SHOCK IN RUSSIA and an exact analogue of pre-war Prussia.

The Red Army Air Force Commander threw Stalin in the face:
"You make us fly in coffins." Stalin did not forgive him for this and shot him. What could Rychagov do if the industry produced aircraft of very poor quality.

[Monarchist]

Perhaps the 58th, not only we need someone, but also in neighboring countries. For example, maydaunas all ask 58yu. Razmik will probably remember the candidates

[Army soldier2]

Firstly, they have not yet been "cleaned out", but temporarily suspended from their duties. Secondly, the Fontanka publication is not the press service of the RF Ministry of Defense.
And if everything is really so bad, where is the responsibility of the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy and the General Staff?

[Hauptam]

Adapts and opportunists, the whole service passed from the moment of entering the school and so on, to the commander. The main question: not who are you, but whose are you? Whole "mahali" created, 50 people are an organized criminal group. Where is the Military Prosecutor's Office? again engaged in bullying. I am ashamed of such warriors, shame. Take off shoulder straps and sailors to the fleet, transfer your experience (for free).

[Kos_kalinki9]

Hauptam

Remove epaulettes and sailors in the fleet, transfer their experience (for free).

Chet finely.
To the galleys, rowers !!!!
For a piece of tortilla !!!! And molts, molts.

[avg-mgn]

Quote: Army 2

First, they have not yet been "cleaned out", but temporarily removed from their duties. Secondly, the Fontanka publication is still not the press service of the RF Ministry of Defense.
And if everything is really so bad, where is the responsibility of the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy and the General Staff?

Here at VO yesterday officially from the Russian Ministry of Defense

https://topwar.ru/97394-ministr-oborony-obyavil-ob-otstranenii-ot-dolzhnostey-pr
edstaviteley-komandovaniya-baltiyskim-flotom.html

[Hyperboreas]

Maybe it is so. It just doesn’t work out differently. Accustomed to window dressing and performance, but the fact that everything really rusts and decays is simply closing their eyes.

[bad]

Command of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation




Nosatov Alexander Mikhailovich

Vice Admiral, Chief of Staff - First Deputy Commander of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation

Born March 27, 1963 in Sevastopol.

In 1985 he graduated from the Black Sea Higher Naval School. P.S. Nakhimov.
He began his officer service in the Pacific Fleet as the commander of the anti-aircraft missile battery of the destroyer "Stoyky", then passed the positions of the commander of the missile and artillery warhead of the destroyer "Bezofaznenny", the flagship missile weapons specialist of the missile ship division, the senior assistant missile commander of the guards " and the commander of the Rapid destroyer of the Pacific Fleet.

In 2000 he graduated from the Naval Academy. N.G. Kuznetsova.


In 2009, after graduating from the Military Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, he was appointed commander of the Baltic Naval Base of the Baltic Fleet.

By decree of the President of the Russian Federation of January 27, 2012 he was appointed deputy commander of the Black Sea Fleet.

On May 05, 2014, by the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation, Alexander Mikhailovich Nosatov was awarded the title of Vice Admiral.

..about this new commander not much is known here is what is in the public domain.

[masiya]

These are all the echoes of Serdyukov's "girls" where everyone tore up and drove them to the root just to put them in their pockets, it's surprising that the Baltic Fleet (and the FLEET in general) under its nose so disgraced ... sad and insulting ...

[reston]

The commander of the ground forces was planted. The composition of the Baltic Fleet was removed.
Apparently, the patience of officers is coming to an end.
Mannerheim, Kudrina, etc.
The first conspiracy was exposed.
Apparently so. A few years of training - and here they are not ready.

[razmik72]

Quote: reeston

The commander of the ground forces was planted. The composition of the Baltic Fleet was removed.
Apparently, the patience of officers is coming to an end.
Mannerheim, Kudrina, etc.
The first conspiracy was exposed.
Apparently so. A few years of training - and here they are not ready.

Be quiet around the corners, Vladimir, you are already writing seditiousness, and most members of the forum do not like it, it is better to blame all officers for bribery and not to think that the officers could demand something from the Minister of Defense, and he simply indiscriminately accused them of all mortal sins .

[prior]

So as not to overgrow with manure, clean the stables, clean and clean.
And not only army, but also party, administrative and others.
Cleanliness is the guarantee of health.

[sad1940]

As far as I remember Kravchuk from 23.02.15g - Fleet Admiral, not Vice Admiral.

[Al shahini]

Yes, events unprecedented in our post-war history. The removal of senior management of the entire operational and strategic association.
Something reminiscent of the purge of the command staff on the eve of the Great Patriotic War.
Is everything really rotten there7 And this is under the nose of the Navy and the Sun ....

[Igor V]

Something I don't like it. All the commanders were kicked out, and then, as Levsha said: "God forbid war, it won't shoot."
It seems to me that everything is quite simple. Our Moscow Region military man is not a military man; he did not know what was happening in the army before receiving the position, in detail. In the wake of the Crimean events, he, like everyone else, believed that the army and navy were being strengthened in the Kaliningrad region. But in fact, here, as the army contracted, it continued to decline according to some accepted plan. Over the past two years, 3 units have disappeared before my eyes - the communications regiment (still the army) and two large units on the Artillery and Nevsky, according to rumors the Moscow-Minsk (already) brigade is also rapidly disappearing. And I was not specifically interested in this issue. Apparently, the big authorities, having announced the creation of the corps, introduced into it already non-existent units and formations. The reaction is obvious. If all this is so, then punishing the small bosses, the upper ones cover up their own inactivity.

[Mengad]

“Officials were punished for serious omissions in the organization of combat training, daily activities of the troops, failure to take all necessary measures to improve the conditions for the deployment of personnel, lack of concern for subordinates, as well as distortions in the reports of the real state of affairs,” the military press service said in a statement. departments. link http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/3415004

[gladysheff2010]

Quote: figvam

Do you think that you will lay out the whole truth? Well, after 50 years, maybe yes.

There is a whole bunch of problems: from collapsing dormitories of officers, to direct fraud during exercises (this is for the Supreme!) - people are truly greyhound, not seeing the coast! And this is not counting the cross-border incidents with NATO aircraft and another US destroyer near the main base Baltic Fleet!

[Prisoner]

No time for window dressing and fraud. The fleets and troops now need such as the Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov and Army General Margelov. Very not calm time.

[Monarchist]

Alas, such a little

[avg-mgn]

Quote: Igor V

Something I don't like it. All the commanders were kicked out, and then, as Levsha said: "God forbid war, it won't shoot."

So what do you offer them to distribute the Stars of Heroes? You can just threaten with your finger, or even sit embracing brandy and horseradish with a glass of wine with neither the fleet, nor the country ...
The dismissal of the admiral from the army is not a joke, the reason should be very, very significant.

[Igor V]

I don’t know yet, maybe I’ll sit with a glass. In any case, I don’t see why it is possible to decapitate a separate group. Conspiracy and treason fall away, not those times. I wrote about my assumptions above. I have nothing against withdrawing the komflot, anything can happen, but regarding the removal of a group of commanders at the same time is a mystery. Maybe due to the creation of the corps, the staff is changing and they all became acting, and the journalists fanned? Do you think that everyone should be shot?

[Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich]

Quote: s-t Petrov

these are the pies. This is the first time in my memory

I suspect that I will be a little older, but this was not in my memory either.
Although, no, there was something similar in air defense, after the passage of Rust.

[V.ic]

Black Sea = chi fleet, chi not fleet ...
Baltic = was a fleet ...
Northern = Navy ...
Pacific = also a fleet.
Probably an attempt to revive the fleet, which showed maximum resistance to the Second Reich in the Battle of Moonsund in 1917, while the Black Sea Fleet self-drowned on the orders of the Bolsheviks.

[razmik72]

Quote: V.ic

Black Sea = chi fleet, chi not fleet ...
Baltic = was a fleet ...
Northern = Navy ...
Pacific = also a fleet.
Probably an attempt to revive the fleet, which showed maximum resistance to the Second Reich in the Battle of Moonsund in 1917, while the Black Sea Fleet self-drowned on the orders of the Bolsheviks.

In 1917 there was no Second Reich. There was Kaiser Germany and its fleet.

[V.ic]

Quote: razmik72

In 1917 there was no Second Reich. There was Kaiser Germany and its fleet.

There was a Second Reich from 1871 to 1918. Learn the story, loser!

[Arkan]

The purges and the subsequent renewal of the commanding staff of the Baltic Fleet, according to the idea, should strengthen the country's defense capability. Tough and decisive.

[Winter cherry]

It seems to me that such tough measures have been taken for treason. The Baltic Fleet headquarters is in Kaliningrad, it seems. Perhaps they were all bought out in bulk and retail, and promised to be accepted into the EU together with Kaliningrad.

[Igor V]

Elena, what are you talking about. Which of the Kaliningraders wanted in the EU has been cleaning the toilet there for a long time. For us it’s not sweetie.

[Mengad]

Quote: razmik72

Quote: demotivator

And rightly so. Only now I’m not very sure that simply dismissal with dismissal is an adequate measure for the collapse of the fleet.
Stalin brought to trial the commander of the USSR Air Force, General Rychagov, for the very collapse and window dress. "The leadership of the Air Force often hides from the government the facts of accidents and disasters, and when the government discovers these facts, the leadership of the Air Force tries to gloss over these facts, resorting in some cases to the help of the People's Commissar of Defense ..."
By the way: Rychagov, commanding military aviation, brought her condition to the point that about 600 aircraft were lost in accidents per year - almost a third of what was then produced in the country. He was shot for this.
Something tells me that the restoration of the 58th article in the Criminal Code in some cases would benefit the country and the people.
And dismissal with suspension is unjustified and inadmissible vegetarianism. Only a fool is unclear that the Kaliningrad exclave today is becoming the MAIN DIRECTION OF A POSSIBLE SHOCK IN RUSSIA and an exact analogue of pre-war Prussia.

The Red Army Air Force Commander threw Stalin in the face:
"You make us fly in coffins." Stalin did not forgive him for this and shot him. What could Rychagov do if the industry produced aircraft of very poor quality.

Razmik72 Are you throwing disu again? these words are attributed to P.V. Rychagov. He served as Head of the Main Directorate of the Air Force of the Red Army. Which answered for release at aircraft factories! In your opinion, it turns out that under his leadership the planes left the assembly line and Stalin was to blame?

[MDS]

I suspect fraud on the coastal forces of the Baltic Fleet (the formation of new units) with all the difficulties of manning and deployment, but this concerns the leadership of the coastal forces and the command of the fleet. But to remove 50 senior officers, most of the commanders of the formations is nonsense, with all due respect to Kozhugetovich, it seems like drafts . I sympathize with Nosatov, a decent admiral, there were no assistants who knew the situation. I hope that most of the detached commanders will return to their posts after the trial.

[epsilon571]

varov14 (5) RU Today.
Damn, I’m civilian and I don’t understand these games, this is the same headless fleet, what have you thought about before? This reminds me of the events before the war, about which not a little has been written, somehow there everything was crap at first. This is really a reasonable personnel policy, first we sleep, and then after scratching our turnips we make hasty decisions ..

In this situation, I think a lot is said to us mortals. A similar situation was only in May 28, 1987 on the Day of the border guard. The sports plane of the American manufacturing company Cessna violated the airspace of the Soviet Union. He landed in the capital near Vasilyevsky Descent in the very vicinity of Red Square. Namely, he landed on the Bolshoi Moskvoretsky bridge and drove by coast to St. Basil's Cathedral. It is unlikely that Rust knew that around 15:00, when he would fly in the area of ​​the city of Pskov, there the local air regiment would undergo training flights. Some aircraft landed, others took off. At three o'clock, the code of the state recognition system was replaced, which implied the simultaneous change of code by all pilots. However, many inexperienced pilots did not perform this operation: a lack of experience or forgetfulness failed. Be that as it may, the system recognized them as "strangers." In this situation, one of the commanders could not figure it out and assigned all the aircraft the “I-mine” sign, including Rust's sports plane. He made the further flight with a local air registration. But there was secondary legalization near Torzhok, where rescue operations took place as a result of a collision of our aircraft - the slow-moving German "Cessna" was mistaken for a Soviet search helicopter. After this incredible incident, many people began to invent different jokes on this topic, it is obvious that something similar happened this summer in the Baltic. Then they lost their posts: Alexander Koldunov (head of the Air Defense Forces), Sergey Sokolov (Minister of Defense) and about three hundred officers more. Matthias Rust himself at the court said that his flight was a "call for peace." 04.09.1987/XNUMX/XNUMX, he was sentenced to four years in prison for violation of flight rules, illegal border crossing and malicious hooliganism.

Of course, this is only my version, we will never know the true truth, but we would really like to. But maybe I'm still right?

[Cat man null]

Quote: epsilon571

In this situation, I think mortals say a lot to us

- there is an opinion that Rust was "carried out" on purpose. Gorby got in the way ... but the same Sokolov, in particular
- I remember that day, personally, as I was on the shelf, I kicked the orderlies in their mouths so that they would take portraits in the rooms ...

[iouris]

The story of Rust negated the political influence of the leadership of the USSR Armed Forces. Four years after this operation, a counter-revolution took place in the USSR. These are just facts.