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NATO’s inclination to negotiate with Moscow was recently reported to the world by the French foreign minister, Jean-Marc Eyreau, who talked with his colleague Sergei Lavrov in Paris. In addition, Monsieur Eyro expects that members of the North Atlantic Alliance at the upcoming summit in Warsaw will declare their desire to put an end to confrontation with Russia. Has NATO really started shooting?




Sergey Lavrov paid a working visit to Paris. On the Orsay Embankment, Russian Foreign Minister was received by colleague Jean-Marc Eyreau.

"We discussed with the Russian colleague the situation in Europe, the results of the referendum in the UK and agreed that it is necessary to adequately get out of this situation," - quotes Monsieur Eyro "Russian newspaper".

In addition, Eyro assured the guest that Paris "hopes to end the sanctions as soon as possible" and will also "work to ensure that the upcoming NATO summit in Warsaw does not lead to confrontation with Russia."

In response, Lavrov said that Moscow was considering the possibility of convening a Russia-NATO Council in Brussels at the level of permanent representatives. At the same time, the Kremlin does not close its eyes on the buildup of the military presence of the alliance near the borders of the Russian Federation.

As reported "News"Sergei Lavrov stressed that the maneuvers of the North Atlantic Alliance near the borders of Russia threaten national security.

The interlocutor responded to this as follows: he noted the "non-confrontational" nature of the alliance's actions.

The French side showed initiative: it formulated proposals that could be discussed at a meeting of the Russia-NATO Council. Moscow, the newspaper notes, would like to organize an event of the Council in early July, that is, after the summit of the alliance.

“Russia agreed to hold a meeting of the council, but expressed the wish that the meeting should take place after the Warsaw summit in order to be able to study the decisions that will be made there,” she said. "Lenta.ru" the head of the French foreign office.

He also stated: “We don’t want the summit in Warsaw to be confrontational.”

Recall that for the first time after a long break (about two years) the meeting of the Russia-NATO Council was held at the end of April 2016. The NATO Secretary General, Mr. Stoltenberg, reported on a “sincere and serious conversation”. At the same time, he stated that one should not wait for a return to the previous bilateral relations.

By the “old” relationship, Stoltenberg had in mind those that developed between Russia and NATO (or rather, between Russia and the West) from the nineties and “acted” until April 1 2014. It was on that day at a meeting of the foreign ministers of NATO member countries that a decision was made to suspend military and civil cooperation with the Russian Federation. The main reason for the suspension was the annexation of the Crimea to the territory of Russia. The second reason for the deterioration of relations was the tense situation in the Ukrainian south-east.

Recently, Mr. Stoltenberg gave an interview to the German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung, excerpts from which were published on the website nato.rf. From the statements of the Secretary General it follows that NATO is trying to present itself as a peace-loving organization, and to blame Russia for all its troubles.

Jens Stoltenberg accused Russia of violating the provisions of the Founding Act on Cooperation and Security of 1997, noting the following: “Russia does not adhere to the provisions of this document, one of the most important principles of which is respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of all states. Russia does not respect the territorial integrity of Georgia and Ukraine. Among other things, the Founding Act prescribes certain restrictions on the Russian military presence, but it is also significantly increased. ”

The Secretary General noted the build-up of armaments by Russians in Kaliningrad, in the Crimea, in the region of the Barents, Baltic and Black Seas, and finally in the Eastern Mediterranean. Stoltenberg said that the troops of the North Atlantic Alliance in Eastern European countries are planned to be deployed to prevent possible conflicts.

Against the background of such statements, it is not at all surprising that they are in no hurry to appoint an exact date for the meeting, which Monsieur Eyro told the world in Paris. For the time being, Moscow has stopped on “exploring the possibility”. Obviously, there will be no rush.

It is not surprising that Moscow would like to organize an event of the Council after the Alliance's Warsaw summit, and not before it. It must be assumed that the coming summit may just be the impetus for the intensification of the “confrontation”, which Monsieur Eyro doesn’t want. In the meantime, Paris will have to fulfill its promise and work to ensure that "the upcoming NATO summit in Warsaw does not lead to confrontation with Russia."

In NATO itself, over the past weeks they have done everything so that they could speak specifically about heightening tensions and strengthening the aforementioned “confrontation”.

NATO Secretary General announced the "critical solutions" at the end of May this year. New solutions will affect the presence of alliance forces in Eastern Europe. Summit will take into account Russia's actions and determine the order of adaptation to the new security situation: “We must strengthen the NATO presence in eastern Europe, it will be a multinational presence. Thus, we will give a clear signal that an attack on one country will be an attack on all of NATO. ”

And suddenly the Secretary General said that the cooperation of the alliance is of a “defensive nature” and is not directed against any state. This is after the mention of "actions of Russia"!

It seems that we are dealing with a remarkable case of crowding out propaganda of logic.

Of course, such “defensive” steps did not escape Moscow’s attention. That is why the Kremlin is in no hurry to hold the Russia-NATO Council.

Nevertheless, the initiative of France as a whole is positive: it means a change in the minds of European politicians. After the European Union made the first crack (a referendum in the UK), many major European politicians have attended to the issue of rapprochement with Russia. There is already a document on the proposed “global strategy” of the EU, in which notedthat, against the background of the coming split of Britain, Germany and France see an impetus to deepen cooperation in the field of common defense and security within the EU and at the same time consider it necessary to work out a common approach to the “strategic challenge” of Moscow, because “the EU and Russia are interdependent”. And here we are not talking about confrontation at all, as one might think, but about cooperation with Moscow: “Therefore, we will cooperate with Russia to discuss differences and cooperate in cases where our interests overlap.”

Thus, this fresh EU initiative (voiced, by the way, by Mogherini), and the statements by Monsieur Eyro, who spoke out against the “confrontation”, are the first signs of promise in the near future warming between Europe and Russia. Of course, other politicians from Poland and the Baltic states may not like these initiatives. However, even these politicians (with the exception of the Polish Minister of Defense) are well aware that the Russians are not going to attack either individual Latvia or the entire European Union. To yelp on the air is one thing, but to believe in an aggressor on the threshold is quite another. Where the latter happens, broad-shouldered orderlies with syringes should enter the game.

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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 1 July 2016 05: 49
    +31
    "there will soon be a warming between Europe and Russia."
    I do not believe.
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 1 July 2016 05: 52
      +11
      "... agreed that it is necessary to adequately get out of this situation," "hopes to end the sanctions as soon as possible." The words seem to be correct, but I would like Geyropa to do all this at the expense of the Russian Federation. They really need a second tagged one, which will bend under them.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 1 July 2016 07: 20
        +13
        I do not believe in improving NATO’s relations with Russia.
        In the Pentagon and NATO countries, military budgets are inflated and painted, military orders have been made and are being worked out. Try to stop this whole militaristic business! It is easier to stop where the military budget is less. And it is less in Moscow than in Washington.
        Most likely, the NATO leadership is again bluffing and is going to “improve” its relations with the Kremlin through concessions only from Russia!
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        2. siberalt
          siberalt 1 July 2016 08: 42
          +1
          It is common for interstate relations to move in any particular direction. If they get worse, then the limit is war. If the West does not plan a war with Russia, then a warming of relations will follow.
        3. Knizhnik
          Knizhnik 1 July 2016 10: 52
          0
          The fact of the matter is, military budgets have already been "cut", now it is necessary to urgently allocate funds "for disarmament and detente" and urgently "cut" them too. Sinusoid, in general smile
        4. APASUS
          APASUS 1 July 2016 18: 36
          0
          Quote: Tatiana
          Most likely, the NATO leadership is again bluffing and is going to “improve” its relations with the Kremlin through concessions only from Russia!

          And what is NATO, it is 90% financing from the USA. So it’s not up to NATO to decide, but to the Americans. There will be no news here. The guys are spinning all of Europe for money and there’s some kind of Frenchman with his ideas!
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          2. siberalt
            siberalt 1 July 2016 23: 47
            0
            The EU is cracking at the seams. NATO really needs to change at least anti-Russian rhetoric. Making Russia a world demon no longer rolls. Moreover, this exacerbates the tendency for the EU to split. There is a week left, let's see.
    2. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog 1 July 2016 06: 46
      +8
      And what for us these relations?
      There were not so many benefits as it turned out.
      1. SSR
        SSR 1 July 2016 07: 23
        +2
        Quote: Alex_Rarog
        And what for us these relations?
        There were not so many benefits as it turned out.

        Everyone ate glasnost and democracy to such an extent that there was already a petition about the closure of the Russophobic and at the same time sponsored by Gazprom echemata. On the other hand the desire to go to the "enlightened" Europe is where people live, frost pomle as you see a bunch of Arabs, Niger and knit streets .... in general, in the resorts of Egypt and the Turks in black and had seen the garbage themselves have become smaller and the they themselves began to discover that we have something to see, the main thing is to tighten up the service))))
      2. joopel
        joopel 1 July 2016 08: 03
        +6
        The whole history of "relations" with Europe has shown that fuck we do not need such a relationship. They were eternally slurped on our riches. From their filthy mouth, streams of lies eternally pour in our address. Let them eat their own sneakers, Alenka is nicer to me!
    3. Blondy
      Blondy 1 July 2016 07: 38
      +5
      Yes, what can I say, remember how Gorbachev and Yeltsin patted on the shoulder and did their job. Now, apparently, such "forms of cooperation" are no longer rolled out.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 1 July 2016 08: 31
        +2
        Quote: Blondy
        Yes, what can I say, remember how Gorbachev and Yeltsin patted on the shoulder and did their job. Now, apparently, such "forms of cooperation" are no longer rolled out.

        Whoever I would not believe so is Mogherini. << Thus, both this fresh initiative of the EU (voiced, by the way, by Mogherini), and the statements of Monsieur Ayrault, who spoke out against the "confrontation", are the first swallows promising in the near future a warming between Europe and Russia. Of course, other politicians from Poland and the Baltic states may not like these initiatives. >> The snake is subcold. Ten days ago the opposite sang. And strict sanctions, and complete isolation of Russia, and not recognition of the calls of their homeland, Italy, about the recognition of Crimea and the lifting of sanctions ...
        1. joopel
          joopel 1 July 2016 08: 39
          +4
          Mogherini is a cross-eyed witch. Such people in enlightened Europe were burned alive in squares at the confluence of a venerable, enlightened public.
  2. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 1 July 2016 05: 50
    +3
    Ammo run out
    The Americans will bring!
    1. Passer
      Passer 1 July 2016 06: 36
      +3
      Quote: Vladimir61
      Ammo run out
      The Americans will bring!

      Rather, they will sell it.
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      2. Apsit
        Apsit 1 July 2016 09: 46
        +2
        Quote: Passer
        Quote: Vladimir61
        Ammo run out
        The Americans will bring!

        Rather, they will sell it.

        Rather, forced to purchase.
    2. joopel
      joopel 1 July 2016 08: 06
      0
      Presenting to the owner is a purely European role. The Americans will condescendingly grunt and majestically gallop.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 1 July 2016 08: 20
        0
        Quote: joopel
        Presenting to the owner is a purely European role. The Americans will condescendingly grunt and majestically gallop.

        This is mainly a German tradition, described in many books.
        1. joopel
          joopel 1 July 2016 08: 41
          +1
          In recent years, something has changed in their shitty world. You have to be more careful.
    3. edge
      edge 2 July 2016 11: 46
      0
      Quote: Vladimir61
      Ammo run out

      participated in recent exercises, deployed a brigade, re-mothballed military equipment and carried out combat coordination of units within a week; does this mean that the brigade is ready to engage in battle after a week, and how many brigades will be from the 30 millionth mobile reserve? we just realized that we’ll demolish everyone in the shortest possible time time. soldier
  3. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 1 July 2016 06: 05
    +4
    Let the NATO officials at first give a damn about the summit in Warsaw, reveal their true plans and intentions (in the statements and documents of the alliance), and only then it makes sense to talk about something with them. Any sweet-spoken statements of individual politicians (moreover, obviously opportunistic and momentary) cannot be attached to business.
    1. Lyton
      Lyton 1 July 2016 06: 21
      +2
      Their true plans and intentions are their existence as an alliance, if there is no common enemy in the person of Russia, then why are they needed at all, the parasites are one word, and here they prove their necessity by such statements. hi
      1. edge
        edge 2 July 2016 11: 50
        0
        Quote: Lyton
        if there is no common enemy in the person of Russia, then why are they needed at all

        and if there is such an enemy at the time of pushing the rolls, it’s nice and scary to be terrifying. From the aspirations of Eurosadism sado-masochism developed.
    2. BARKAS
      BARKAS 1 July 2016 07: 49
      +1
      Quote: Sergey-8848
      as they will reveal their true plans and intentions (in statements and documents of the alliance),

      It will be like this, Poland and the Baltic states will prove that there are several hours left before the Russian attack and that urgent measures need to be taken. The United States will support them. The rest, impressed by such "evidence", will agree to hold several exercises near our borders in the near future.
    3. grandfather Mih
      grandfather Mih 1 July 2016 10: 17
      0
      I agree. Here, some of the military from the Baltic Fleet also wanted to talk (article "Out of the ranks"). The order "Prepare for battle and march" was drowned in chatter and show. Received much earlier than the start of the operation on September 30 last year. Order! Talking at the NATO summit has someone to deal with, even the military by order. I think so.
  4. Wolka
    Wolka 1 July 2016 06: 10
    +6
    no warming and do not expect it, NATO just needs time to regroup its forces and build up its military potential, but in Europe there is a "glove compartment", in Syria, it’s full of kapets, so they climb to kiss
  5. edos1979
    edos1979 1 July 2016 06: 36
    +6
    I think that the Nato summit in Poland will become unprecedented in its Russophobic statements. On what the author of the article is based, they just reluctantly fall prey to time.
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 1 July 2016 06: 59
      +2
      Judging by the deafening volleys of announcements of this summit - yes, there will be something enchanting. We need to show our need in this world, otherwise where to get financing from? Do not forget about the number of people of pre-retirement age that grazes in the headquarters of NATO, they also need to equip themselves. And bureaucrats who need to begin their careers must somehow live. There will be a good reserve for the future, hence all the screams about Russian submarines, ships and aircraft, which entangled poor Europe and simply do not give life to the general people.
      As they say, love comes and goes, you always want to eat. And in order to eat well, you need to cherish and cherish your work, and in order for the NATO people to work, you need to cherish and cherish the Russian threat.
  6. aszzz888
    aszzz888 1 July 2016 07: 01
    +1
    Alliance members at the upcoming Warsaw Summit will announce their desire to end the confrontation with Russia.

    Well, someone will believe you, inexpensive and not ours ?! laughing
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 July 2016 07: 02
    +1
    «hopes end the sanctions as soon as possible ”

    Hoping does not mean doing something in this direction. French ministers are very concerned about the decisive attitude of their farmers towards sanctions, plus young people are not happy with the adopted laws on education, etc. Therefore, much can be said for the press and for cameras. And who will do it?
  8. PValery53
    PValery53 1 July 2016 07: 03
    0
    NATy still has "cartridges". This fighting fervor faded away: they sensed the real approach of "distribution".
    1. edge
      edge 2 July 2016 11: 53
      0
      Quote: PValery53
      This fighting fervor faded away: they sensed the real approach of "distribution".

      otherwise, we compared the results of our and our teachings ..... and carried them into diapers
  9. Senior manager
    Senior manager 1 July 2016 07: 09
    +1
    A tanned puppeteer ordered a carrot to be waving harder in the face of Russia. Everything should be evaluated according to deeds, but in reality, behind peace-loving rhetoric, NATO is building up forces on the borders of Russia. Propaganda for foreign people.
  10. Ruzina Natalia
    Ruzina Natalia 1 July 2016 07: 15
    +2
    This is not a change in the consciousness of Europoliticians, it is pure diversion of the topic aside. Why French? It's just that there are serious strikes, European Championship, Brexit, refugees, etc. For them it is too much on their heads. And then NATO, money, whipping up passions, sanctions. Just in case, they are the first in line to negotiate with the Russians. The main thing is that our people are not in a hurry to believe the "sweet" speeches.
  11. Egoza
    Egoza 1 July 2016 07: 20
    +1
    With all the proud statements, the NATO exercises showed a lack of combat readiness for real battles, although they certainly will not speak about this openly, but they will certainly talk at the upcoming summit. Everyone will be ready to fight ... soldiers of the neighbors. Wangyu - NATO will collapse with the EU.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 1 July 2016 23: 53
      +1
      And what can be judged about our combat readiness of the "tsetrobalt" (Baltic Fleet), if Shoigu actually fired his entire leadership? It is strange that this topic was not included in the review of "VO".
  12. CONTROL
    CONTROL 1 July 2016 08: 20
    +1
    Imagine tomorrow - well, right tomorrow! - Found a way to cheaply produce almost free - very very cheap! - fuel, fuel for ... Well, while fuel and ICE are changing, they become very very simple and ... yes - cheap!
    ... And what will it be?
    That's right - a disaster!
    If the internal combustion engine leaves - the industry / engine production will suffer ... If gasoline / diesel fuel leaves - "... oils" and "Gazprom" will suffer ... Autochemistry ... And te de, and te pe! ...
    To admit this is unthinkable!
    -----------
    The most interesting thing is that such a method and such fuel have been found for a long time; everything lies on the surface!
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    ... As in the issue of confrontation between Russia and NATO ...
  13. praide
    praide 1 July 2016 09: 26
    0
    Quote: siberalt
    If the West does not plan a war with Russia, then a warming of relations will follow.

    This is not profitable for the Americans, they have grown fat not on iPhones, but in wars and on exacerbating tension with the enemy. And their main enemy today is Russia.
    Quote: Egoza
    With all the proud statements, NATO exercises showed a lack of combat readiness for real battles

    The fact of the matter is that NATO today is an economic project in honor of the development of the military part of the state economy.
  14. Apsit
    Apsit 1 July 2016 09: 58
    0
    Sergei Lavrov emphasized that maneuvers of the North Atlantic Alliance near Russia's borders threaten national security.

    The interlocutor responded to this as follows: he noted the "non-confrontational" nature of the alliance's actions.

    Well, yes, when you wave your fists in front of your nose and imitate striking, they call it the non-confrontational nature of the alliance’s actions.
  15. ARES623
    ARES623 1 July 2016 10: 04
    +2
    We should not be fooled by this twisted position of some NATO members. A warmer in relations between the EU and Russia will immediately hit the pocket of the US military-industrial complex. And if the United States has no interest in warming, then all this bum with the French is not worth the time spent. At one time, such a political "elephant" as Charles de Gaulle was liquidated (politically) by the United States for withdrawing from the NATO military organization, what can we say about dwarfs like Oland, Merkel, and even more so Mogherini? They are more flexible than the intestines of an earthworm. In one speech they contradict themselves several times. According to them, Moscow does not fulfill the "Minsk-2" !!! Haha !! They don't know who is sabotaging the agreements? At the same time, they have at their disposal not only the OSCE reports, but their own not weak intelligence agencies. They all know, it's just that the "senior" ordered to say just that, and not otherwise. Poroshenko frankly scored at them, hiding behind tanned ears, and they wiped themselves off.
    There will be no warming, as clear as day. All statements on this subject are nothing more than an attempt to breed us into a retreat in positions on Ukraine or Syria.
  16. Koresh
    Koresh 1 July 2016 10: 38
    +1
    Between NATO and the Russian Federation warming is impossible, since the bloc is clearly directed against Russia. Between the EU and the Russian Federation, I somehow believe more, Britain is leaving and people need money, we need a new market and this is Russia. Here the United States can spoil a little everything by squeezing sanctions against the Russians and increasing pressure on Kiev so that in turn it will conduct military operations in the east. The next 5 years for Europe may be a series of shocks and changes, or the new Reich, or the litter of the United States, or the collapse ... in an interesting time we live comrades.
  17. Berkut24
    Berkut24 1 July 2016 10: 57
    +1
    In turn, you sons of bitches! (from).
    Occupy after Erdogan!
  18. JonnyT
    JonnyT 1 July 2016 11: 20
    0
    the usual attempt at "chatting". NATO is just showing off. Promise in 3 boxes and then just throw.
    1. edge
      edge 2 July 2016 11: 57
      0
      we study well, and are now programmatic to the maximum, we’re unlikely to buy fake
  19. black
    black 1 July 2016 12: 32
    +1
    It was not possible to run into, intimidate, crush with sanctions. Now they will begin to persuade. Do not wash so skating.
  20. Arkan
    Arkan 1 July 2016 13: 03
    0
    The Europeans realized that they could not intimidate us with parades of military equipment and that there was no money for the war, so they turned on the back one. But you have to be on the alert, "partners" are still those "fruits"!
    1. edge
      edge 2 July 2016 11: 59
      0
      Quote: Arkan
      We cannot be intimidated with parades of military equipment and there is no money for the war, so they turn on the back. But you have to be on the alert, "partners" are still those "fruits"!

      try to bite on the other side or later ....
  21. D. Dan
    D. Dan 1 July 2016 17: 17
    0
    Believe me, colleagues! These Dalby don’t do anything in vain. The trend is clear even to them. The collapse of Joes, the elections in the mattress country, Yamal dozed off in the Euro, and now it becomes clear that Russian barbarians Asians will not come to SAVE but come to destroy, you still do not understand, guys, we are the only hope not only of the EU, but of the whole world .
    I can broadcast a lot on this subject, who have an interest write in a personal.
  22. Lyubopyatov
    Lyubopyatov 1 July 2016 21: 17
    0
    Not even two years passed from the warming of 1938 (Munich) to the beginning of World War II.
  23. saygon66
    saygon66 1 July 2016 22: 54
    0
    - "The military can show off in uniforms and shine with weapons as much as they want - let them ... Questions of peace and war are decided behind the modest offices of accountants and merchants ..." (C).
    - Profits are declining - and here they are fussing ....
  24. BAVMALEY
    BAVMALEY 2 July 2016 10: 34
    0
    These "partners" have never been friends to us and never will be. Their correct names range from "probable enemy" to "enemy"