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Presidents of Russia and Turkey have agreed to meet in person

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Russian President Vladimir Putin held a telephone conversation with Turkish President Erdogan. According to the press service, the conversation lasted about 40 minutes. The Turkish side rated the telephone talks of the leaders of Russia and Turkey as “productive and positive.” In this case, it is indicated that Putin and Erdogan agreed on a personal meeting.



Archival photo of the meeting of the presidents of the Russian Federation and Turkey


Turkish TV channel NTV reports that during the conversation, issues of normalizing bilateral relations were discussed, which in fact were frustrated as a result of the attack of Turkish fighters on the Russian Su-24 bomber.

According to RIA News, Vladimir Putin expressed condolences to Erdogan in connection with a major terrorist attack in Istanbul, which occurred on the night of June 29.

Sources from the presidential administration of Turkey, to which the news agency refers AnadoluIt is reported that during the conversation emphasis was placed on interaction in the face of political and economic crises in the region, as well as on joint efforts to overcome differences in bilateral relations.

As a result, the presidents of Russia and Turkey agreed on further contacts, the purpose of which, as announced, is to restore the former relationship between the two countries.

The Russian leader urged Erdogan to focus on conducting an objective investigation into the case of the death of the Russian pilot Oleg Peshkov. At the same time, the Kremlin’s press service notes that it has been instructed to begin the process of removing barriers to the travel of Russian tourists on holiday to Turkey.

It is surprising that the speed of development of events with which Moscow decided to improve relations with Ankara. As if nothing had happened. Erdogan’s slippery “half-blame” (which yesterday was the official authorities of the Russian Federation called an accomplice of international terrorism) and a telephone conversation - and all that matters ...
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  1. NordUral
    NordUral 29 June 2016 14: 05
    +2
    And what is all this about?
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 29 June 2016 14: 08
      +8
      Archival photo with a handshake? This is all in the past. And what will happen next is not very clear.
      1. EvgNik
        EvgNik 29 June 2016 14: 13
        +17
        Quote: Reserve officer
        And what will happen next is not very clear.

        New handshake.
        1. Temples
          Temples 29 June 2016 14: 14
          -6
          And then you need to live in peace.
          1. Thrall
            Thrall 29 June 2016 14: 23
            +42
            Maybe I look strange, but on the Turkish question, I trust the Russian President.
            And personally, anyone can himself express his attitude. Whether or not to buy Turkish products and consumer goods, whether to sunbathe on their beaches, getting there through Minsk ..
            1. Lukich
              Lukich 29 June 2016 15: 07
              0
              Quote: Thrall
              Maybe I look strange, but on the Turkish question, I trust the Russian President.

              ... who has repeatedly proved that he owns the situation and can beat any politician. I voted for GDP and I simply must trust him. so far in foreign policy he has not made a single mistake
              1. Rossiyanin
                Rossiyanin 29 June 2016 15: 26
                -6
                and will not allow it in the future.
                1. Mavrikiy
                  Mavrikiy 30 June 2016 06: 00
                  0
                  Quote: Rossiyanin
                  and will not allow it in the future.

                  Let's hope. But ..... Each person has his own head and he tries to use it. There, the question of information is also very important, from whom, how much, how presented, comments. They say there are still emotions that can "choke".
                  In order to understand what is happening with us, I suggest looking at the relations between Turkey and Israel. Broken diplomatic relations over the years. The Turks demanded compensation, the Israelis never. And suddenly Israel is 20 million. families of terrorists who attacked Israeli special forces. In the plot! Israel will be more principled than us and suddenly .... There are scandals in Israel because of this in the government.
                  It took Turkey and such a sharp movement. There are two ways: Turkey is forsaken (and Israel?) Or the Third Force bends all under Turkey.
              2. Oleg16661
                Oleg16661 29 June 2016 16: 07
                +32
                Quote: Lukich
                Quote: Thrall
                Maybe I look strange, but on the Turkish question, I trust the Russian President.

                ... who has repeatedly proved that he owns the situation and can beat any politician. I voted for GDP and I simply must trust him. so far in foreign policy he has not made a single mistake


                I also voted for him. And also trusted in the Turkish question.
                But he came home from work and heard on the news "about the beginning of the normalization of relations." To be honest, until now, some mats only come to mind.
                What did Erdogan promise Putin that the degree of tension was declining so quickly? More than sure, it could not have done without it.
                Let's see what will happen next. It may become clear where Erdogan made concessions and whether it was worth "normalizing relations." Up to this point, all actions of our leadership looked logical, corresponding to the current situation. If this does not happen, then I will be completely disappointed in them.
                It’s hard to believe that after the harsh rhetoric that ours adhered to (something like "there will be normal relations with Turkey, but not with this leadership"), Erdogan's letter, from which it does not follow who is to blame for what happened, and one phone conversation, everything will immediately become chocolate.
                I hope I clearly described my emotions. The first time I regret that you can not write obscenities on the forum, it would be shorter and more understandable.
                1. Lukich
                  Lukich 29 June 2016 16: 29
                  -4
                  Quote: Oleg16661
                  But he came home from work and heard on the news "about the beginning of the normalization of relations." To be honest, until now, some mats only come to mind.

                  we had to break off a relationship for life?
                  Quote: Oleg16661
                  What did Erdogan promise Putin that the degree of tension was declining so quickly? More than sure, it could not have done without it.

                  do you see? means something promised. GDP does not bite chaff
                  Quote: Oleg16661
                  Up to this point, all the actions of our leadership looked logical, appropriate to the current situation.

                  so let's believe further
                  Quote: Oleg16661
                  Erdogan’s scribe, from which there is no conclusion who is to blame for what happened, and one phone call will all become chocolate so immediately.

                  and who saw him? maybe there is some important attribute. who knew about the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact at one time?
                  Quote: Oleg16661
                  The first time I regret that you can not write obscenities on the forum, it would be shorter and more understandable

                  Do not need smile and without mat everything is clear smile
                  1. Oleg16661
                    Oleg16661 29 June 2016 18: 12
                    +13
                    Quote: Lukich
                    Quote: Oleg16661
                    But he came home from work and heard on the news "about the beginning of the normalization of relations." To be honest, until now, some mats only come to mind.

                    we had to break off a relationship for life?

                    For life, it is not necessary, but either normal relations should be built with another Turkish government, or with the current one, but after normal apologies, and not the circus that we saw.
                    By a normal apology, I mean something like: "I'm guilty, I'll fix it." This is exactly what, of course, we will never hear, but something similar in diplomatic language could be thought up.
                    1. Dryuya2
                      Dryuya2 29 June 2016 20: 28
                      +10
                      large retailers - they say they will restore the entire line of food from Turkey in a week - "excellent" help to the domestic producer sad
                      tour operators say in a month they will completely restore the tourist flow - in Crimeans they will say thanks sad
                      there was no explanation of the type in Antalya of ter.acts -
                      but if? (God forbid) but if, all of a sudden ...?
                      - that again there will be performances with the words OH kick in the back?
                      in Egypt, airplanes don't seem to explode anymore either, why not Egypt?
                      ======
                      Vladimir Vladimirovich - I don’t understand why I’ve come to such a halt so sharply and in all directions.
                      Well, this Turk told you, promised.
                      1. lis-ik
                        lis-ik 29 June 2016 20: 36
                        +13
                        Normal people (due to their safety) will not go to Turkey with terrorists for any reason, they are inadequate and fly there now, so the matter will not only be allowed or not allowed.
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                    2. Lukich
                      Lukich 29 June 2016 21: 20
                      +6
                      Quote: Oleg16661
                      . That is, of course, we will never hear, but something similar in diplomatic language could have been invented.

                      I repeat once again, NOBODY AND NEVER will say what was REALLY WRITTEN there. Well, it’s not in vain because the FIRST GDP offered to talk on the phone. and he just does nothing. it means there was something that he could not refuse
                      1. Dryuya2
                        Dryuya2 29 June 2016 22: 41
                        0
                        Quote: Lukich
                        Well, it’s not in vain because the FIRST GDP offered to talk on the phone.

                        why so dramatically? and in all directions? -
                        according to T.V. as if the GDP was waiting at a "low start" - and here it is a letter, a call - and away we go
                        Quote: Lukich
                        it means there was something that he could not refuse

                        Syria? "friendship" against someone? or .... (I don't know what else to think of)
                        I still can not understand request
                        reluctantly take the tomatoes somehow
                        but at the expense of tourists I do not understand - "for the life of me" - there is banging almost every week - or in the expectation that the population will have a self-preservation instinct what
                      2. Lukich
                        Lukich 29 June 2016 23: 08
                        +1
                        Quote: Dryuya2
                        Syria? "friendship" against someone? or .... (I don't know what else to think of)
                        I still can not understand

                        why come up with? time will tell. offhand, gas pipe, nuclear power plant, Syria ...
                        Quote: Dryuya2
                        but at the expense of tourists I do not understand - "for the life of me" - there is banging almost every week - or in the expectation that the population will have a self-preservation instinct

                        so we went. and now the Turks howled. crazy money lose
                  2. Seal
                    Seal 30 June 2016 00: 10
                    +2
                    Vladimir Vladimirovich has professional translators from Turkish and Turkologists. But the most important thing is not what verb Erdogan used. It is only fools who begin to dance shamanistic dances around the verb. The main thing is that we considered this his apology - namely, an apology.
                    And if we didn’t want to admit that Erdogan just apologized, then if he used in his address at least all Turkish verbs expressing the term “sorry” to one degree or another, we would not have taken all of them as an apology.
                    1. Dryuya2
                      Dryuya2 30 June 2016 00: 38
                      +1
                      Quote: Seal
                      But the most important thing is not what verb Erdogan used.

                      interesting video on this topic yes
                      a guest on the air at Satanovsky, today flew from Ankara -
                      looked, listened and generally got confused what
                      what for ? Vladimir Vladimirovich - why?
                      look from 1.25 (approximately winked ) Turkish theme.
                      Well, in general, Satanovsky is a lot today (interesting belay ) talked about restoration work.
              3. VICTOR-61
                VICTOR-61 29 June 2016 19: 23
                +9
                I completely agree Oleg 16661 with you how our caved in quickly threatened not only with tomatoes for the zbitie plane and the most important thing is that it seemed to apologize yes I think that it was our first caved in and Erdogan even officially apologized - I am disappointed that our politicians can only fool people like pensioners promise everything before the election — and then no money — Hold on — they don’t know how to live for pensioners and try to live on a meager pension of 8-15 thousand for at least 1 day — and after the elections they will come up with laws so that they give the last pennies to the United Russia so that it’s chic for them to live
              4. uralex
                uralex 29 June 2016 21: 43
                +6
                Quote: Oleg16661
                What did Erdogan promise Putin

                ... apparently to leave NATO and the whole world to merge the customers of the downed plane ... In general, such turns of the brain endure people ... It’s somehow softer with your people!
                Although, I think, for many Russians, confidence in Turkey will not return soon. The thick layer of sediment really remained and not with any Turkish beaches it could be washed away ...
              5. Seal
                Seal 30 June 2016 00: 07
                0
                What did Erdogan promise Putin that the degree of tension was declining so quickly?

                It is enough just to look around to understand who our Russian-Turkish rapprochement, which began somewhere in 2000 and was actively growing until November 25.11.2015, XNUMX, was to the greatest extent like a sickle in the balls? It is likely that Erdogan just said: "I just looked at the dossier of our pilot (killed in the explosion of a bus with pilots) who shot down your plane, so it turned out that this bastard has an Armenian grandmother."
          2. Makk
            Makk 29 June 2016 16: 29
            -3
            And personally, anyone can himself express his attitude.

            What attitude each must personally express will be announced later.
            getting there through Minsk ..

            But through Minsk or through Moscow, decide for yourself.
        2. navigator
          navigator 29 June 2016 15: 12
          +17
          Quote: Temples
          And then you need to live in peace.


          And the Turks will support this world as well as during 500 years and will love the Russians.
          1. Seal
            Seal 30 June 2016 00: 16
            -1
            And the Turks will support this world as well as during 500 years and will love the Russians.

            And what are your specific claims to the Turks? Only specifically, and not in general, that "everyone knows that the Turks are scoundrels"?

            Maybe the Turks at least once did with our prisoners what the Swedes did after the battle of Fraustadt?

            Or maybe the Turks missed in 1941 and 1942 at least one German or Italian warship in the Black Sea?

            By the way, this year marks exactly 555 years since the establishment of the Sultan Mohamed Fatih, the Armenian Patriarchate of Armenia, at the request of the Armenian workers.

            Let me remind you that the Greeks, having regained Constantinople in 1261, expelled all Armenians from it, as traitors and accomplices of the Latin crusaders. Under the Paleologues, the Armenians were forbidden not only to live in the City, but even to enter it. What are the Turks doing after taking the City? And the Turks, having taken the City, first of all cancel the ban on Armenians living in it. Moreover, they are not just canceled, but respectfully invited Armenians to reside in Constantinople. And to make the Armenians comfortable, the Turks donate several Greek Orthodox churches of the City to the Armenian Gregorian Church. And then the previously unthinkable happens. When the number of Armenians who again began to live in Constantinople reached a decent level, as the Armenians themselves write "at the numerous requests of the working Armenians" Sultan Mohammed Fatih in 1461, that is, just 7 years after the Turks took the City, allowed the Armenians to create their own Armenian Gregorian Constantinople Patriarchate. Which throughout the history of the City was not allowed by either the Greeks or even the Latins during the Latin period of the City from 12014 to 1261. That is, from the fact that the Ottoman Turks took the CITY, the Armenians received the greatest benefit. They were again allowed to live in the CITY and, moreover, for the first time in the history of the CITY, they were allowed to establish their own Armenian Patriarchate of Constantinople. Which neither the Greeks nor the Latins ever allowed, and the Greeks would not have allowed further, if they were able to defend the City in 1453. Moreover, the first Armenian Patriarch of Constantinople was the Armenian Metropolitan of Bursa, the former Turkish capital. That is, the Armenians became so closely intertwined with the Ottomans that in the former Ottoman capital Bursa it turns out that the Armenian Metropolis existed and flourished. By the way, this year 2016 marks the 555th anniversary of the establishment of the Armenian Patriarchate of Constantinople by the numerous requests of the Armenian workers of Constantinople by Sultan Mohamed Fatih. I wonder if there will be fireworks on this occasion?
      2. joopel
        joopel 29 June 2016 14: 25
        +12
        Handshake? Perhaps, everything is possible in diplomacy. Now it’s necessary to gently and steadily unfold this Turkish hut in front of you, to the penal doo. Erdogash will never become our ally, but this will not prevent him from spoiling the exceptional. This type lives with hatred, let this poison spill out onto Baran Obama.
        1. ICT
          ICT 29 June 2016 14: 28
          +13
          Quote: joopel
          Turkish hut to himself before


          that's just the point, so from memory:

          "it was not a knife and it was not a back"
          1. mitya24
            mitya24 29 June 2016 14: 53
            +33
            I agree with you. The economic benefit allows you to forget in 7 months both the knife and the back into which it is stuck. Literally now, they posted information that the Government was instructed to remove the admin bans on visiting Turkey by our tourists. It looks especially ridiculous against the background of ter. an act that occurred literally a few hours ago.
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 29 June 2016 15: 04
              +11
              And then the Turkish tomatoes will return.
              1. joopel
                joopel 29 June 2016 15: 20
                -15%
                Do you know the difference between the victory of diplomacy and the victory of the generals? To force the enemy to do what is beneficial to you is high diplomacy! You can stand in a proud pose and look stupid, but it’s important, but you can unobtrusively guide and push the languidly resisting villain in the direction we need. Achieve your goals without a drum battle r epochal battles with millions of dead. Or do you want to fight? To the front line? In the first trench? Or someone else? Are you a deep rear strategist? On the question of tomatoes, are they poisoned, or did Erdogan spit there? Azerbaijani is better?
                1. navigator
                  navigator 29 June 2016 15: 37
                  +21
                  Quote: joopel
                  Do you know the difference between the victory of diplomacy and the victory of the generals? To force the enemy to do what is beneficial to you is high diplomacy! You can stand in a proud pose and look stupid, but it’s important, but you can unobtrusively guide and push the languidly resisting villain in the direction we need.


                  You tell the relatives of the deceased pilot who were asked to ask the Turks for monetary compensation.

                  Quote: joopel
                  On the question of tomatoes, are they poisoned, or did Erdogan spit there?


                  No, they are environmentally friendly, Perdogan also washed them for you.
                  1. joopel
                    joopel 29 June 2016 18: 38
                    -7
                    There is no need to propogonnichat and relatives of the deceased pilot to remember in Sui. Everything flows and everything changes. Nobody is invited, do not distort. Cheap welcome. Are you a provocateur? Is your goal a deterioration in relations with Turkey? How long? Our diplomacy has achieved results without military casualties on the fronts. A result that others could not even dream of. Our diplomats are on top. But give you more blood, gliding cities, crowds of escaping non-combatants! You probably feel sorry for your blood, but you can water someone else’s beds. Nobody makes you eat those washed tomatoes. Do not be too lazy to ask the seller where they do not buy. And nobody forces to go to Antalya, moreover with family, with children. Do not go! This is your answer to Erdogan. But diplomacy has its own laws; it’s not customary to beat a tambourine instead of hello there. Why is that. Think about why! Populists, plus pickers are cheap. All as one genius, kitchen.
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                    7. kepmor
                      kepmor 29 June 2016 23: 57
                      +1
                      Judging by your remarks on the forum, outright rudeness, which you allow yourself, you probably finished your long life in the army with the rank of "ensign", at best, senior!
                      You yourself are not ashamed of such a "bazaar", dear ?!
                    8. joopel
                      joopel 30 June 2016 08: 13
                      -3
                      Why are you ensigns so reserved? Will you be the generals yourself? What did the ensigns not please you? Aren't you ashamed of such a bazaar yourself? And why on earth did you decide that you have the right to teach me the rules of good form? To get in a strange conversation, sweet man, dear.
                    9. kepmor
                      kepmor 30 June 2016 08: 28
                      +2
                      Warrant officers and warrant officers respect!
                      But there are no "ensigns" and "midshipmen"!
                      And if you really served, then you should know the difference between the first and second.
                      It’s too late to teach you the rules of good form, and this is an ungrateful task!
                      Stop being rude to everyone, and business ....
                    10. joopel
                      joopel 30 June 2016 08: 39
                      -1
                      I put a plus for you for dividing ensigns and warrant officers by grades, you are our chauvinist. Exceptional terminology taught? As it is very similar in words to juggle, glide sophisticatedly. And who has not yet pleased your aesthetic feelings, sir? Sergeants, foremen, corporal, or, scary to think, foremen? Do not you think that now you spit a lot of walking like? You are our polite.
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  3. the most important
    the most important 29 June 2016 21: 35
    +2
    Quote: joopel
    Is your goal a deterioration in relations with Turkey? How long?

    until its complete collapse!
  4. joopel
    joopel 29 June 2016 22: 59
    0
    Libya fell apart, Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan. Chaos in Turkey, is this our goal? And what will it give us? Excess hemorrhoids? Chaos near our borders is needed only exceptional.
  5. joopel
    joopel 30 June 2016 08: 23
    -1
    Judging by the deleted comments, sheer obscene language. Intelligence and rushing. Laughing out loud. Clowns. Swearing in arena, no mind needed. Tryndet, not grumbling bags. You can spit on me with shit. Sorry, leave me at least these two pegs. How am I without the sticks? I will probably die with longing. laughing
  • Pereira
    Pereira 29 June 2016 16: 04
    +24
    I was not told that Turkey will not get off with tomatoes.
    It was so? Remember how the CPI witnesses squealed in delight?
    And now what?
    Witnesses now have a new reason for joy. Tourists come back, tomatoes come back. New Tricky Plan? Where did the old one go?
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 29 June 2016 16: 12
      +11
      All tricky plans exist only in the brains of cremators. wink Everything is usually obvious and has not changed for half a century. There are state interests. Today they are like that, and tomorrow they are different, and propaganda prepares public opinion for the policies of the authorities. request Regarding the situation, only one word can be said - agreed. All . And already the details of the agreements will be visible further. Markers are known - Syria, Turkish stream, Kurds, nuclear power plants and so on. By further actions of the parties it will be clear on what issues have agreed and where not. But there will clearly be no war, which is already not bad. hi
    2. Lukich
      Lukich 29 June 2016 16: 35
      0
      Quote: Pereira
      New Tricky Plan? Where did the old one go?

      and the French burned Moscow and did not apologize. Do you know what was in the letter and what the GDP was talking about with the Turk ??? do you think that the President has "turned everyone in" again? but it seems to me for the entire time of his reign, he did not commit NOT ONE strategic mistake !!! so let's see what will happen next and who will play who will play in the oven
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 29 June 2016 19: 23
        +9
        Quote: Lukich
        and the French burned Moscow and did not apologize. do you know what was in the letter and what did the gross national product talk with turkish ???

        Those Frenchmen were killed in the fields immediately after Moscow, and their descendants recall it with horror!
        I don’t know what was in that letter, but I know for sure one thing, the GDP is not a fundamental person! At first, offended with tomatoes, he threatened for a blow in the back, and then it cost Erdogan something to promise and everything was immediately forgotten, and the killer of our pilot became a handshake!
        And what is there Erdogan wrote, said, suggested, what's the difference? The fact is that the loyalty of our president can be bought, and most likely not expensive! I’m sure that we all will soon find out what Erdogan promised there.
      2. Cat man null
        Cat man null 29 June 2016 19: 30
        +1
        Quote: Stas157
        I don’t know what was in that letter, but I know for sure one thing, the GDP is not a fundamental person!

        Quote: Stas157
        And what is there Erdogan wrote, said, suggested, what's the difference? The fact is that the loyalty of our president can be bought, and most likely not expensive! I’m sure that we all will soon find out that Erdogan promised there

        Anecdote recalled:

        ...
        - fish is a pike
        - pike are teeth
        - teeth are a dog
        - the dog is (censorship)
        - people !!! he called me (a woman of easy virtue)

        The logic is there, call me, one to one practical request
      3. Lukich
        Lukich 29 June 2016 21: 46
        +2
        Quote: Stas157
        I don’t know what was in that letter,

        when people do not know, they are silent. I'm talking about smart ones.
        Quote: Stas157
        but I know one thing for sure, GDP is not a fundamental person! At first, offended by tomatoes, he threatened for a stab in the back,

        and how did he threaten resentment? Do you know that the main economy of Turkey suffered not from tomatoes, but from tourism? Do you know that the Kurds have some of our weapons?
        Quote: Stas157
        and then it cost Erdogan something to promise and at once everything was forgotten, and the killer of our pilot became a handshake!

        do you know well what he promised? and if you resume the gas project, or stop helping ig, is it worth the dialogue? but did not think why the President FIRST called the Turk? just like that. and why were there no such cries when they let Savchenko go? also a killer of our citizens.
        Quote: Stas157
        And what is there Erdogan wrote, said, suggested, what's the difference?

        Yes, what is the difference ???? do you think you need to listen only to abam?
        and in what sense to buy? Turk personally offered him a bribe?

        Quote: Stas157
        I’m sure that we all will soon find out what Erdogan promised there.

        but then it will be necessary to raise a cry, if something is not promised. no one really knows anything, but again, "he leaked everyone, sold everyone"
      4. Seal
        Seal 30 June 2016 00: 21
        -1
        And what do they remember?

        http://rosgeroika.ru/geroi-nashego-vremeni/2013/july/lejtenant-shapovalov-oruzhi
        ya-ne-predal

        On July 10, 1992, in the center of Gyumri (Leninakan), a Russian paratroopers car was shot from an ambush
        Lieutenant Alexander Shapovalov, sergeants Yevgeny Poddubnyak, Oleg Yudintsev, privates Mikhail Karpov, Nikolai Maslennikov refused to hand over Russian military equipment to the Armenians

        "Open letter to the Deputy Minister of Defense of Armenia General N. Abrahamyan
        I had a son. There were expectations, joys, hopes ... It is unbearably painful to write about this in the past tense. You killed my son, general! He killed along with his soldiers - the whole calculation of ZU-23. Three months passed after that. I'm trying and I can’t understand your psychology. How did this vile murder become possible? And who is its organizer? Deputy Minister of Defense! But you, the general, yourself served in the Armed Forces of the USSR for 34 years ...
        Our son and his soldiers did not give you the weapons that their homeland entrusted to them. With all their behavior in the last hours of their life, they did not shame the glories of this weapon. And what glory did you get for Armenia? I am deeply convinced that if your bandits were in the place of our guys, they would drop their weapons and scatter. And I’m sure because only cowards with an overwhelming superiority in forces could do so meanly. You, the general, traded the army, the glory of which is known to the whole world, for a crowd of bandits, consisting of half of criminals. Using the cowardice, and perhaps the venality of our command in Leninakan, you became insolent that you decided to put the lives of young guys from the army of a friendly country on the sacrificial stone. You have a short memory! Weren't these guys three and a half years ago pulling out your compatriots from the ruins of Leninakan and Spitak after the earthquake? Was this army helping to rebuild the cities of Armenia? So, it turns out that you fully paid for the help.
        In the very first days after the funeral, I wanted to send curses to you, General, on behalf of all the mothers and fathers of the executed soldiers, but decided that it was better to do this in an open letter through the newspaper. Let everyone know about you, and first of all your children. And if after that you can calmly look into their eyes, then you are just not a human being.
        With deep contempt
        Ivan SHAPOVALOV - father of Lieutenant Alexander SHAPOVALOV. "
    3. Weyland
      Weyland 29 June 2016 22: 58
      +1
      Quote: Lukich
      and also the French burned Moscow and did not apologize


      In fact, Moscow was burnt by Rastopchin, so that the French had no place to winter. And, as Lukich rightly wrote,

      Quote: Stas157
      Those Frenchmen were killed in the fields immediately after Moscow, and their descendants recall it with horror!

      Of the 600th Great Army, 20 returned back ...
  • Lukich
    Lukich 29 June 2016 18: 12
    -3
    Quote: Pereira
    I was not told that Turkey will not get off with tomatoes.
    It was so? Remember how the CPI witnesses squealed in delight?
    And now what?

    and why do you constantly forget that VVP constantly said that the dialogue would take place after the Turk apologized ??? letter came. which of you "leaked all, sold all" knows what is in that letter ???? and why VVP, not a Turk, was the first to suggest talking on the phone ??? so simple ??? Has the president surrendered at least once, retreated? maybe we’ll keep quiet and wait, what will happen next
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 29 June 2016 19: 29
      +2
      Turk did not apologize.
      Apologies exist only in the perverted brains of the idiots.
    2. VICTOR-61
      VICTOR-61 29 June 2016 20: 42
      0
      Lukich, you don’t feel sorry for the dead pilot, you want to please Erdogan most of all, but I personally feel sorry for the pilot and the dead children in Donbass and there are so many of them and now they fire at them, they live on a powder keg, at any moment the bandera can fire
    3. Lukich
      Lukich 29 June 2016 21: 56
      +2
      Quote: VICTOR-61
      Lukich you do not feel sorry for the dead pilot, the main thing is to please Erdogan

      how do you know who I am sorry and who is not sorry ????? I don’t have to please the tour. he’s nobody to me !!!
      Quote: VICTOR-61
      and I personally feel sorry for the pilot

      and I still felt sorry for our journalists. but when Savchenko was released, I understood why this was necessary
      Quote: VICTOR-61
      and the dead children in Donbass and there are so many of them and now they are being fired, they live on a powder keg at any moment, Bandera can be fired

      Well, what does this have to do with Turk ????
  • the most important
    the most important 29 June 2016 21: 33
    +5
    Quote: joopel
    To force the enemy to do what is beneficial to you is high diplomacy!

    Any officer now understands that if he dies on the orders of the commander-in-chief, then it is enough for the next Erdogash to say "ah ... well, sorry ... it happened" and the conflict will be settled ... I don't know about you, but I disgust ...
  • weksha50
    weksha50 29 June 2016 16: 39
    +4
    Quote: Pereira
    And then the Turkish tomatoes will return.


    I don’t know how about a tomato, and pepper from Turkey, colloquially called Bulgarian, did not leave our stores ...
  • nadezhiva
    nadezhiva 29 June 2016 15: 10
    +17
    Quote: mitya24
    The government has been instructed to remove the admin bans on visiting Turkey by our tourists. It looks especially ridiculous against the background of ter. an act that occurred literally a few hours ago.
    This news killed on the spot. In Turkey, regular terrorist attacks, practically, ATO (read: civil war) in the pro-Kurdish territories and .... such ...
    What kind of psycho will fly there?
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 29 June 2016 16: 33
      +3
      There are. To spite us fly.
      1. ferdiperdozzz
        ferdiperdozzz 29 June 2016 16: 42
        +3
        Well, to themselves evil Pinocchio.
  • mult-65
    mult-65 29 June 2016 17: 34
    -4
    This is your patriotism, love of the motherland and other crap. Serious people have business.
  • Sotnik77s
    Sotnik77s 29 June 2016 15: 38
    -10%
    Why is everything clear, Vladimir Vladimirovich will meet with him in order to say goodbye to him, as President of his country, because he will not have long to be President, he will not suit anyone or the States, and moreover, it turned out that Erdogan pumps oil, sends it on tankers to the same States, and much more, in my opinion, everything is clear here
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  • Khariton
    Khariton 29 June 2016 14: 16
    +2
    They will bargain ... (I wonder who put so much pressure on the Ottomans ..) Here, someone wrote that Israel was going to join the SCO .. (Oh, God ..)))) If we surrender the Kurds, then Syria also started then across Russia ...
    1. chikenous59
      chikenous59 29 June 2016 14: 17
      +6
      Quote: Chariton
      If we surrender the Kurds, then later Syria also swept through Russia ...

      Strange assumptions you have, comrade.
      Who will now turn off the general line? There is nowhere to retreat, once they got into this hell.
      1. ICT
        ICT 29 June 2016 14: 21
        +5
        Quote: chikenous59
        Strange assumptions you have, comrade.

        Quote: Chariton
        If we surrender the Kurds,


        we don’t dance them and don’t give them to us
      2. Pereira
        Pereira 29 June 2016 15: 05
        0
        So our generals are curtailed. Not the first time.
    2. guzik007
      guzik007 29 June 2016 14: 23
      +7
      they will organize ... (I wonder who pressed the Ottomans so much ..)
      -----------------------------------------------------------
      Judging by the haste on our part about an immediate meeting, I would ask something completely different ...
  • 1536
    1536 29 June 2016 14: 21
    +4
    Why not understand? Ideally, it is necessary to isolate the United States, to prevent them from gaining a foothold on the Black Sea coasts for a long time, in no case to let them begin to revise the Montreux doctrine, to exclude the creation of a NATO flotilla on the Black Sea. To provide joint protection against American terrorism in Turkey, Syria and here.
    In the medium term, return relations to the pre-crisis level, and forever ensure the unhindered use of the Black Sea straits by Russia. Well, and "in little things", not to let the tourism business perish here and there, and to support commerce in other areas.
    1. mitya24
      mitya24 29 June 2016 15: 10
      +14
      It is clear with the economy, but what about the politics, or rather the political weight of the statements of our commander in chief. After all, what turns out, everyone can knock down our plane and in 7 months it will get away with it? A precedent, however. How could other Lideas think of something like this? Straits, olinclusions, tomatoes, builders ..... this is certainly good, but the honor is more expensive. So we were taught.
      1. 1536
        1536 29 June 2016 17: 05
        +4
        Politics is the art of the possible. And I won’t give my honor to anyone. And so, I hope, the vast majority will do it.
        Or do you, dear, think that our compatriots, who continue to fly on vacation to Turkey now, have already lost their honor? Rather, mind, not honor.
        Let our people vote by visiting or not visiting Turkish resorts. Bans, still nothing can be achieved.
        And you must immediately respond to the downing of planes by shooting down a couple of air bandits who have allowed themselves such a thing. Stupidity, when some leaders say that we should not answer them with the same weapons. But a recent example with our ship, which instead of giving tracers to drive away an insolent American, hoping for the umpteenth time international law, somehow does not inspire me.
  • lukke
    lukke 29 June 2016 15: 21
    +9
    And what will happen next is not very clear
    As always - to understand and forgive. Or Hitlers, Erdogans come and go, but nothing to do with the glorious Turkish people. Now we will propose to the Turks some mind-blowing joint project in the interests of the Russian oligarchy (otherwise he has recently begun to screw up something without European loans at ridiculous interest rates, and in the interests of the Russian state, of course, because no one has canceled taxes) and kick it up old lady Europe. We will invest, develop and implement, and all this will be exactly until another freak from the Turks occurs. After all, they are such reliable and loving partners! straight at the genetic level. Essentially, the USA and Europa will try to convert them to their faith, and the power of the magic green candy wrapper has not yet been canceled, and the Turks will start auctions "who is more?" and once again their self-esteem of the significance and influence in the region will be strengthened, etc. etc. negotiations, bargaining, games of diplomats and food for the media ... Politics is such a thing) We are already thinking about returning tourists there!
  • igor67
    igor67 29 June 2016 18: 08
    +5
    Quote: Stock Officer
    Archival photo with a handshake? This is all in the past. And what will happen next is not very clear.

    Farther? Tourism has already been allowed, fruits and vegetables will again be normal (concentration of harmful substances), and Rospotrebnadzor will allow selling
  • Hon
    Hon 29 June 2016 22: 10
    +2
    Restrictions on visiting tourists to Turkey are already being lifted. They closed Turkey, saying that it was unsafe there. Opened the day after the attack with dozens of corpses. Is it safe there now?
  • NordUral
    NordUral 29 June 2016 14: 34
    +12
    To minusvoschikam: for what we minus? For saying that I do not see the content in the article? Or because our country needs to act like a great country and not fuss. And where are the apologies of the Turkish president? Only a clumsy attempt to get out of a bad situation for him in a typical Erdogan style is visible.
    1. chikenous59
      chikenous59 29 June 2016 14: 37
      +5
      Quote: NordUral
      And where are the apologies of the Turkish president? Only a clumsy attempt to get out of a bad situation for him in a typical Erdogan style is visible.

      How do you know what they were actually talking about and what compromises Erdogan made? If you started to communicate and agreed on a personal meeting, then Erdogan really offered something worthwhile hi
      And who knows what he still has to do for the sake of normalizing relations with Russia. So you look and the IG refuses to support for a piece of the pie and the roof from the USA)
    2. Idiot
      Idiot 29 June 2016 14: 54
      +1
      Quote: NordUral
      And where are the apologies of the Turkish president? Only a clumsy attempt to get out of a bad situation for him in a typical Erdogan style is visible.


      Did you attend the conversation and hear it all? Drawing conclusions based on media commentary is like reading War and Peace in comics ...
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 29 June 2016 15: 34
        +1
        Quote: pft, fkb
        Did you attend the conversation and hear it all? Drawing conclusions based on media commentary is like reading War and Peace in comics ...

        I support you! All the squabble will be after the meeting. And while it is really not clear what Putin and Erdogan were talking about. Events in Europe and the silence of the USA? This is the intrigue of this summer. And why did Grandma Merkel behave like that? She took a step without a directive from Washington I couldn’t, but here it seems like she decided to create the fourth Reich. For now, everything is not clear.
    3. Lukich
      Lukich 29 June 2016 16: 39
      +1
      Quote: NordUral
      And where are the apologies of the Turkish president?

      did you see the letter yourself? have you heard of the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact? think why the GDP suggested, not the Turk, talk on the phone
    4. Stas157
      Stas157 29 June 2016 19: 43
      +4
      Quote: NordUral
      To minusvoschikam: for what we minus? For saying that I do not see the content in the article?

      I am with a disorder minusanul. And the photo was simply shocking! Satisfied Putin shakes hands with the one who ordered to bring down our pilot!
  • Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 29 June 2016 15: 50
    +11
    About the fact that the grandmothers outweigh everything, honor, conscience, shame, pride for their country. Yes, Erdogan had to be rotted to hell. But no, it turns out our man is in Havana. Hugs and kisses begin. Hey guys, who yelled here that we are breaking this Urkagan, so what, are they breaking? Whistle on.
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 29 June 2016 16: 11
      +12
      Let them not forget how they said on all channels that Turkey supports ISIS and buys oil from them, or have they all been corrected?
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 29 June 2016 17: 00
        -3
        Turkey is bursting at the seams and may fall apart - Erdogan sees this - who needs who more !? In order for the Russian Federation to take at least some counter steps, Erdogan needs to be appeased with "gifts" (this is the East). GDP removes administrative barriers for tourists - but what Erdogan did for this will become clear "tomorrow". And there are enough of them: from the Kurds to the support of ISIS. Moreover, we agreed on a meeting - I am sure that Erdogan has already promised something serious (and if he throws it off ... the GDP will no longer forgive).
        In Turkey, terrorist attacks, baiga with Kurds, economic downturn, and disagreements with the EU and the USA are already happening every month. And apparently (it seems to me like that), the West decided to stir up another revolution in Turkey - therefore, Erdogan is so bad and very afraid that he had to write to the Kremlin. And for him, the game turned into a struggle for survival: the EU does not need such a leader of the Turks (judging by the issue of refugees), the United States was between the Kurds and the Turks (the Yankees should decide who is more important to them). Here Erdogan was afraid that he was left alone (the neighbors just won’t help - he managed to spoil relations with everyone) with a bunch of problems that he himself couldn’t solve. Another reason to turn around 180 degrees. I do not see. Therefore, he is already forced to promise quite a bit so that the GDP will be decided at the meeting - Erdogan decided to turn his back on the West - otherwise I see no reason for such a change on the part of the Kremlin. The Turk will ask stopudovo in both the SCO and the Customs Union - do not go to a fortuneteller; after England, he realized what the mood of ordinary people in the EU. hi
        And for the plane and the pilot, how cute will pay; "Radish" will also come to the grave !!!
        And of course, Erdogan VVP most likely asked not to talk about the "gifts" - the US and the EU will immediately run over.
        I'm sure Erdogan understands that this is the "last chance" to stay at the top.
  • arlekin
    arlekin 29 June 2016 16: 48
    +11
    Everything as usual. it was and it will be so
  • Vend
    Vend 29 June 2016 14: 06
    +11
    Turkey is not Russia, you can block the Turks. We felt that there was a complete scribe, we decided to play everything back. However, win back is much more difficult. Destroy, by stupidity, is easy, but build.
    1. Idiot
      Idiot 29 June 2016 14: 56
      +2
      Quote: Wend
      We felt that there was a complete scribe, we decided to play everything back.


      England merges the EU. That is the whole reason.
  • soroKING
    soroKING 29 June 2016 14: 09
    0
    Putin escorted him, shook his hand all the way, and at the very door he suddenly weighed a cassock angry
    1. Idiot
      Idiot 29 June 2016 15: 01
      0
      Putin flew in without a plane, flew under the ceiling and cursed in Ukrainian-German ...
  • chikenous59
    chikenous59 29 June 2016 14: 10
    +10
    Politics are so insidious and lack morality. Yesterday we are friends, today we are enemies, and tomorrow again friends, because there is a benefit. It is not surprising that relations will begin to normalize, but the sediment will remain the next ..
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 29 June 2016 14: 25
      +4
      Quote: chikenous59
      Politics are so insidious, and there is no morality ...


      How is it? what Perhaps, from someone's personal point of view, there should be no morality in politics, but according to other canons, a "guilty" politician is simply obliged to leave politics and not to mask his sturdy traces yes
      What can be the sediment? The Russian president cannot have confidence in Erdogan because the Turkish leader was several months late with his apologies ... They say that the road is a spoon for dinner, and in our case request I just can’t imagine how to perceive, for example, a dog that has a tail that has recently torn a chain, grinning its teeth, but with a stick on the ridge ... what

      The best decision in our case is to wait ... but, excuse me, we (the government and business) are not used to waiting, it caught fire and burned ... we wouldn’t have to learn untaught lessons again and shed tears recourse
      1. chikenous59
        chikenous59 29 June 2016 14: 32
        0
        Quote: yuriy55
        I wouldn’t have to learn lessons that were not learned again and shed tears

        Time will tell .. Not the first time between two countries, relations cease and begin anew ..
  • Taygerus
    Taygerus 29 June 2016 14: 11
    +1
    I think Erdogan’s partners will be handed over in person, and after the preference, he’ll freeze
  • Aleksandr_K
    Aleksandr_K 29 June 2016 14: 11
    +12
    Sorry, I was afraid that this would happen. You can’t forgive a cockroach.
  • PValery53
    PValery53 29 June 2016 14: 11
    +4
    Political tulle muli trawled wali. Specifically, what about the bomber and those killed by our pilot and marines ?!
  • Xmyp
    Xmyp 29 June 2016 14: 11
    -4
    Soon they will write every step, where and how who farted.
  • RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 29 June 2016 14: 11
    -5
    Presidents of Russia and Turkey have agreed to meet in person
    So he will personally apologize for our pilots, right into the camera, articulately and several times, and Putin will scoff at this "cockroach", making him feel extremely uncomfortable, but what to do with Russia, either befriend or be FRIENDLY ...
    1. Salvodor
      Salvodor 29 June 2016 14: 17
      +15
      Yes, no one will apologize, it was immediately clear.
  • Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 29 June 2016 14: 11
    -6
    And why in the photo Erdogad tie does not chew ??? am
  • Xmyp
    Xmyp 29 June 2016 14: 13
    0
    Quote: RUSIVAN
    Presidents of Russia and Turkey have agreed to meet in person
    So he will personally apologize for our pilots, right into the camera, articulately and several times, and Putin will scoff at this "cockroach", making him feel extremely uncomfortable, but what to do with Russia, either befriend or be FRIENDLY ...

    Do not be naive. The interests of ordinary people are not important here, money is interesting there, etc.
    They will tell the people to slurp from the sewer, it will begin.
    1. RUSIVAN
      RUSIVAN 29 June 2016 14: 30
      +1
      I will answer this way, ordinary people chose the president (to agree whether or not this is your right) and if we trusted him, then we must make any decision whether we agree with this or not, and about the sewer system you have to go to extremes, what do you think these sewage?))
  • Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 29 June 2016 14: 13
    +10
    It sucks. I feel cheated and spat upon.
    1. chikenous59
      chikenous59 29 June 2016 14: 16
      -4
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      It sucks. I feel cheated and spat upon.

      And why didn’t you feel yourself like that before? How many fought with the Turks? How many people were killed? Relations are restored again .. And you just now feel cheated?))
    2. Idiot
      Idiot 29 June 2016 15: 03
      -3
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      It sucks. I feel cheated and spat upon.


      There is no place for emotions in politics. There is exclusively unconditional adherence to national interests.
    3. Seal
      Seal 30 June 2016 00: 25
      -1
      Have you not felt here?
      http://rosgeroika.ru/geroi-nashego-vremeni/2013/july/lejtenant-shapovalov-oruzhi
      ya-ne-predal
      Lieutenant Shapovalov did not betray weapons
      On July 10, 1992, in the center of Gyumri (Leninakan), a Russian paratroopers car was shot from an ambush
      Lieutenant Alexander Shapovalov, sergeants Yevgeny Poddubnyak, Oleg Yudintsev, privates Mikhail Karpov, Nikolai Maslennikov refused to hand over Russian military equipment to the Armenians.
  • dsm100
    dsm100 29 June 2016 14: 14
    +8
    Relations between countries will be restored is a fact. Not immediately, but will recover. We do not need an extra enemy. The Turks are compensating for everything, wherever they go. They need us more than we need them.
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  • Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 29 June 2016 14: 18
    +5
    Politics, guys, this is a dirty business. This lady’s opinion of the people never takes into account. It’s not with us.
    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 29 June 2016 15: 03
      +1
      Quote: Dimon19661
      Politics guys are dirty business.


      "If you have ever seen how sausage is made, you can imagine what politics is."
  • Vend
    Vend 29 June 2016 14: 20
    0
    Quote: Chariton
    I wonder who pressed the Ottomans so much ..

    Recognition of the Armenian Genocide. Even the Pope recognized. And this is fraught for Turkey not only with financial costs, but also with territorial losses.
    1. Seal
      Seal 30 June 2016 00: 29
      -1
      Nevertheless, 75% of the countries in which 80% of humanity lives do not recognize !! Including China, India, Japan ... only Asia itself recognized Armenia, Cyprus, Lebanon and Syria. Moreover, if in relation to Armenia it is clear that she has recognized everything, then this cannot be said about Cyprus. Northern Cyprus did not recognize anything. At least half of Lebanon also did not recognize anything? And who recognized in Syria is generally a mystery :)))
  • Khariton
    Khariton 29 June 2016 14: 20
    +3
    I feel that men will deceive us again ..
    Liberals are not really fun ... They always know! Laugh alright, bye ..
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 29 June 2016 14: 21
    +6
    Not from a good life we ​​win back everything in the ass. A pause could be sustained for longer. It seems that not everything is so good in our relations with partners in Europe and Asia.
  • Jamuqa
    Jamuqa 29 June 2016 14: 23
    +7
    Such is the president’s work ... we have to step over personal hostility for the sake of state interests. How do we know what Putin really likes?
    1. navigator
      navigator 29 June 2016 23: 53
      0
      Quote: Jamuha
      Such is the president’s work ... we have to step over personal hostility for the sake of state interests. How do we know what Putin really likes?


      What is in one’s soul is not necessary and not always possible. Judged on business.
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  • Dezinto
    Dezinto 29 June 2016 14: 24
    +14
    Tourism restrictions removed. Is Turkey a super friend again? As for me - well, nafig. Let's see how people react .....
  • guzik007
    guzik007 29 June 2016 14: 26
    +9
    Another fact that Vova holds her people for a loshar and he does not care about our opinion.
    1. Giants
      Giants 29 June 2016 19: 58
      -1
      Russia is not Putin, and Putin is not Russia. We are not his people. Question - is he OUR president?
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 29 June 2016 20: 03
        +1
        Quote: Giants
        We are not his people

        And who are you? belay

        PS: In a decent society, it is customary to speak for themselves. Personally. wink
        1. Giants
          Giants 29 June 2016 21: 25
          -1
          And for you, love of the motherland and adoration of Putin are synonyms? Are the interests of the country and the interests of the servant of the oligarchs synonymous?
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 29 June 2016 21: 32
            +2
            You ask the wrong questions. I simply noted that I was not familiar with you, and I absolutely did not need you to say something there on my behalf, including. I, if anything, myself, without an ensemble wink

            Quote: Giants
            And for you, love of the motherland and adoration of Putin are synonyms?

            - not. But Putin, after all, is the President of the Russian Federation. And at the same time a person who has done a lot of useful things for the country. I understand yet?

            Quote: Giants
            Are the interests of the country and the interests of the servant of the oligarchs synonymous?

            - Of course not. I just misunderstood - what exactly "servant aligarhaff" mean? request

            That's something like yes
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 29 June 2016 21: 16
        +1
        Excuse me, and then whose people are we? - If Putin is not your Russian president.
        1. Giants
          Giants 29 June 2016 21: 31
          -1
          According to your logic, the so-called The Russian president has the right to neglect the opinion of the people? Threat. WHOSE? Personally, I do not consider myself a serf of Putin.
          1. Seal
            Seal 30 June 2016 07: 42
            -2
            Quote: Giants
            According to your logic, the so-called The Russian president has the right to neglect the opinion of the people?

            Do you think that you are broadcasting on behalf of the whole people?
            But what, Mr. Broadcaster, on behalf of the whole nation, have been silent about this for almost 15 years now ??
            http://rosgeroika.ru/geroi-nashego-vremeni/2013/july/lejtenant-shapovalov-oruzhi
            ya-ne-predal
            Lieutenant Shapovalov did not betray weapons
            On July 10, 1992, in the center of Gyumri (Leninakan), a Russian paratroopers car was shot from an ambush
            Lieutenant Alexander Shapovalov, sergeants Yevgeny Poddubnyak, Oleg Yudintsev, privates Mikhail Karpov, Nikolai Maslennikov refused to hand over Russian military equipment to the Armenians.

            Unfortunately, our President also forgot about this and calls Armenia a friend.
            You, after him, also call Armenia a friend.
            So what kind of "not a slave" after that ??? Precisely what a slave is !!!
            1. Giants
              Giants 30 June 2016 18: 53
              0
              Quote: Seal
              You, after him, also call Armenia a friend.
              I didn’t understand your impact. Where and when did I personally call Armenia a friend? Follow the bazaar, general.
  • JonnyT
    JonnyT 29 June 2016 14: 27
    -1
    the trend of modern politics is hypocrisy! Behind benevolent smiles and handshakes hides fierce competition, a hybrid war. Turkey is being dealt with as required by political etiquette. Putin is vindictive, just will not forgive anything, the more leverage has been added, Vova will train him
  • Berkut24
    Berkut24 29 June 2016 14: 29
    0
    I feel that there should be a Turkish stream. But now there are no discounts or concessions. The Turks will have to play according to other rules.
  • ramzes1776
    ramzes1776 29 June 2016 14: 31
    +16
    Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
    It sucks. I feel cheated and spat upon.

    Once again we wiped ourselves off, well, this is not the first time for us. Here gas (like "the property of the people"), nuclear power plant (at our expense), tourists (instead of making our own Turkey from Crimea), and tomatoes (instead of growing our own) are in the first place. All for the good of the people))) And they will shoot down again, but garbage. Is it worth worrying about such trifles. Business rules !!!
  • engineering
    engineering 29 June 2016 14: 33
    -4
    Apparently, by his admission of guilt for the downed Su - 24, for the sake of restoring partnership with Russia, Erdogan put almost his entire "authority" on the line. Throwing to Europe did not give him anything, though they promised that in 300 years they will be accepted into their European paradise, mattress makers pursue their goals from hostilities with ISIS in Syria and Iraq, they have their own games in which Erdogash does not fit in there. Therefore, there is only one way out, to return to a strong Russia. Even in spite of the threats of frightening, prepared terrorist attacks.
  • umka_
    umka_ 29 June 2016 14: 33
    -2
    Better a bad world than a good war. Let them agree.
  • Koresh
    Koresh 29 June 2016 14: 34
    +6
    The terrorist attacks and the actions of the Kurdish militia are clearly undermining the Turkish economy. The sanctions of Russia, and the outflow of tourists from the country are doing their job. By the way, I would have met in Crimea, I’m just interested in the explosion of farts of patriots of Ukraine and other parts of the body from our politicians and the media.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 29 June 2016 14: 36
    0
    Well, what's not clear then? Well, they put the squeeze on the Turks, they are already apologizing, and everyone will pay, like cute little ones, and they will not do any big deals with them, but even compensation for Drying and a pilot with a Marine to get - you need to TALK. And the terrorist attack from Daesh "flew in" as something immediately - as a hint to Erdogan, so as not to take it into his head to curtail support ... Without the help of the Turks, Syria will immediately "fade". And it looks like South Stream will go to the Bulgarians. wassat
  • Alex_T
    Alex_T 29 June 2016 14: 39
    +1
    To paraphrase the saying: "Be friends with Erdogan, and keep a knife in your pocket."
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  • ramzes1776
    ramzes1776 29 June 2016 14: 43
    +4
    Quote: eugeniy.369
    Quote: Chariton
    Liberals are being extinct in earnest ...

    And what does this have to do with it?
    We have V.V. Putin did not move into liberals, you are more careful with such slogans laughing

    Of course he didn’t pass, only his environment was solid liberals and the economy, in his words, is liberal and will remain such. And so our brightest one is not liberal) He stands for the people, protects against the arbitrariness of officials and oligarchs)
  • Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 29 June 2016 14: 44
    +7
    The news has just arrived about the lifting of tourism restrictions in Turkey. With what I congratulate everyone ... I did not find the icon with a hanging smiley, but the general mood is just that ..
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 29 June 2016 15: 54
      +1
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      news came about the lifting of restrictions on tourism in Turkey.

      And what? You don’t forbid to hell in the socket, do not you pop it? So with Turkey. Maybe we should not drive the president, but take a closer look at those who go there? As an option for employers: Holidays in Turkey? Fired!
  • Dr. Sorge
    Dr. Sorge 29 June 2016 14: 45
    +8
    What will happen to the transit of oil and the supply of weapons to terrorists by the Turks?
  • Tamerlan I
    Tamerlan I 29 June 2016 14: 47
    +12
    Both the pilot and the marine were quickly forgotten, as well as menacing words (about "stab in the back") and frowning eyebrows, how the Turkish "partner" deigned and apologized.
    Apologists of the most "influential" politician are already coming up with an excuse for this ..? There is no doubt that they will come up with a "cunning plan" there, a "multi-move" ...
    1. chikenous59
      chikenous59 29 June 2016 14: 54
      +2
      Quote: Tamerlane I
      Both the pilot and the marine were quickly forgotten, as well as menacing words (about "stab in the back") and frowning eyebrows, how the Turkish "partner" deigned and apologized.
      Apologists of the most "influential" politician are already coming up with an excuse for this ..? There is no doubt that they will come up with a "cunning plan" there, a "multi-move" ...

      But how else, if we with all countries only broke off relations after similar and more serious incidents, with whom would we now cooperate?) With banana republics?
      We were rightly told above that in politics one sometimes has to grit one’s teeth and step over anger to one’s partner for a certain benefit.
      The only question remains, who will benefit from the resumption of cooperation and at what level it will be .. Will our workers in the Union of Artists have to disassemble the greenhouses, and the Crimeans should look at the empty beaches ...
      1. Tamerlan I
        Tamerlan I 29 June 2016 15: 00
        +4
        This, you, give me examples of justification?
    2. Seal
      Seal 30 June 2016 07: 46
      0
      Well, didn't they even apologize? So what ? Best friends anyway negative

      http://rosgeroika.ru/geroi-nashego-vremeni/2013/july/lejtenant-shapovalov-oruzhi

      ya-ne-predal
      Lieutenant Shapovalov did not betray weapons
      On July 10, 1992, in the center of Gyumri (Leninakan), a Russian paratroopers car was shot from an ambush
      Lieutenant Alexander Shapovalov, sergeants Yevgeny Poddubnyak, Oleg Yudintsev, privates Mikhail Karpov, Nikolai Maslennikov refused to hand over Russian military equipment to the Armenians.
  • Xmyp
    Xmyp 29 June 2016 14: 51
    +3
    Quote: Tamerlan I
    Both the pilot and the marine were quickly forgotten, as well as menacing words (about "stab in the back") and frowning eyebrows, how the Turkish "partner" deigned and apologized.
    Apologists of the most "influential" politician are already coming up with an excuse for this ..? There is no doubt that they will come up with a "cunning plan" there, a "multi-move" ...

    So this is for those who are foolish.
    This has always been done.
  • 1 Nikita
    1 Nikita 29 June 2016 14: 53
    +12
    Again wiped. Not long enough for us
    1. Seal
      Seal 30 June 2016 07: 46
      -1
      Well, didn't they even apologize? So what ? Best friends anyway negative

      http://rosgeroika.ru/geroi-nashego-vremeni/2013/july/lejtenant-shapovalov-oruzhi


      ya-ne-predal
      Lieutenant Shapovalov did not betray weapons
      On July 10, 1992, in the center of Gyumri (Leninakan), a Russian paratroopers car was shot from an ambush
      Lieutenant Alexander Shapovalov, sergeants Yevgeny Poddubnyak, Oleg Yudintsev, privates Mikhail Karpov, Nikolai Maslennikov refused to hand over Russian military equipment to the Armenians.
  • GUKTU
    GUKTU 29 June 2016 14: 54
    +8
    At Erdogan, the earth burns underfoot. It was necessary to finish it. Turks in full swing stolen oil, and again we went misconduct
  • SpecialSnab
    SpecialSnab 29 June 2016 14: 57
    +11
    Scha Tsar will say that the pilots themselves are to blame, and erdogashka chic pepper
  • KDV22
    KDV22 29 June 2016 14: 57
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: KDV22
    about! Restrictions on travel are removed, despite the intensification of terrorist attacks, Putin said

    Well, how do you give a link to read to everyone. And then you have your own source, do not be greedy, share it with everyone.

    No pity! TV to help!
  • Million
    Million 29 June 2016 14: 58
    +2
    Putin’s knight move.
  • guzik007
    guzik007 29 June 2016 15: 02
    +20
    Just a minute ago: Vova promised to return the tourists.
    I don’t understand. Who are you? the president of a great country, or a mole of pouting lips. At the first call he runs towards the paws, spreading out how ... I don’t know who. Well, at least stand a pause, or something, for solidity.
    Ugh! looking and listening is disgusting.
    1. 31R-US
      31R-US 29 June 2016 18: 04
      -2
      And you do not look. laughing
      1. 31R-US
        31R-US 29 June 2016 20: 43
        0
        If you suddenly get together in Turkey, I recommend Kemer
        1. Simpsonian
          Simpsonian 29 June 2016 21: 02
          0
          And what are the strategic objects?
  • koksalek
    koksalek 29 June 2016 15: 03
    -2
    IMHO let it be better Putin will be the first to turn Turkey towards him than mattress covers. And I don’t think that our president will forget the "knife in the back" from Erdogan, but as they say above, politics is without emotions and its (politics) is sometimes difficult to understand.
    1. ICT
      ICT 29 June 2016 15: 09
      +3
      Quote: koksalek
      Turn Turkey to itself than mattresses.


      Yes, not to the country, but to the person of pretension,
      maybe kiss this too
  • Brigadier
    Brigadier 29 June 2016 15: 03
    +1
    Let's wait and see ... If the Turks fulfill all the conditions for their forgiveness, previously voiced by Putin, then everything will be clear ... But if they do not, but Putin will forgive them all the same ... Then ALL of our people will ALL It will become understandable !!! am
  • Victor1
    Victor1 29 June 2016 15: 06
    +14
    Putin has sold, betraying and disgracing Russia ...
    as soon as the beach season began and the Turks felt a blow to their pocket, they immediately ran hypocritically to ask for forgiveness, but in fact, everything is clear.
    As a result, Putin removes restrictions on tourism, despite the fact that only a few days ago there were a couple of terrorist attacks.
    Those. the Russian people and the honor of Russia do not care?
    And this despite what happened? And the fact that our people openly say that Turkey supports terrorists does not bother anyone.
    What the hell is going on?
    How is it possible, after all that has happened, to establish relations with traitors and hypocrites in this way, after a not very clear letter and a telephone conversation ..
    The whole world will laugh at us now, shame ...

    I hope our people will continue to ignore Turkey and strike at it with their sanctions, without using its goods and resorts.

    //ria.ru/tourism/20160629/1454284149.html
    1. vadimtt
      vadimtt 29 June 2016 15: 19
      +6
      Yes, no one was sold. There was an article on VO about a coup d'etat, as a result of which the ball is now ruled by an ultra-liberal party. Everything goes to what happened in the 90s, with the surrender of everything and everything. Old liberal values ​​are returning, scraps in the trash ...

      PS: Is it sarcasm? Now I don’t know myself ...
    2. Seal
      Seal 30 June 2016 07: 58
      -1
      Well, didn't they even apologize? So what ? Best friends anyway negative

      http://rosgeroika.ru/geroi-nashego-vremeni/2013/july/lejtenant-shapovalov-oruzhi
      ya-ne-predal
      Lieutenant Shapovalov did not betray weapons
      On July 10, 1992, in the center of Gyumri (Leninakan), a Russian paratroopers car was shot from an ambush
      Lieutenant Alexander Shapovalov, sergeants Yevgeny Poddubnyak, Oleg Yudintsev, privates Mikhail Karpov, Nikolai Maslennikov refused to hand over Russian military equipment to the Armenians.


      And in the very center of Leninakan, on the central square of the city, where the Russian guys then continued to share bread and the last shirt with the Armenians who suffered from the earthquake, Lieutenant Alexander Shapovalov, sergeants Yevgeny Poddubnyak and Oleg Yudintsev, privates Mikhail Karpov and Nikolai Maslennikov were greeted with heavy fire automatic weapons and grenade launcher. As experts later calculated, there were 216 holes in the car body of Shapovalov. Bullets and fragments literally tore young bodies and pure bold hearts of children.
      The convoy left without a commander and without security was easily disarmed and returned to the headquarters of the Shirak detachment. There are witnesses who show that they heard a short and terrible phrase thrown by Abrahamyan and the answer to the report of one of his subordinates: “Finish!” Witnesses suggest that one of the five paratroopers was still alive at that time - maybe it was Lieutenant Shapovalov ...
  • fa2998
    fa2998 29 June 2016 15: 09
    +12
    Quote: guzik007
    Judging by the haste on our part about an immediate meeting, I would ask something completely different ...

    And indeed! "The terrorists' accomplices", and the Turkish "knife in the back" and "they will not get off with tomatoes" - and they sent a letter, talked over the phone - AND EVERYTHING IS WORKING ... State Putin himself as a private person can forgive someone, and on the phone to chat. But in state and international affairs, he represents the PEOPLE OF RUSSIA. All these backstage apologies do not like at all-WHERE PUBLIC apologies of TURKEY-President, Foreign Ministry to the Russian people. So the heat in the country has done, and now they "quietly" reconcile. negative fool hi
  • Million
    Million 29 June 2016 15: 18
    +11
    Something the story of the Kursk submarine was remembered ...
    1. Dr. Sorge
      Dr. Sorge 29 June 2016 16: 03
      +10
      I didn’t forget, she’s always nearby, as this happens. How the Donbass will respond. After all, the Turks howl there on the side of the Natsiks ...
  • amr
    amr 29 June 2016 15: 19
    0
    Quote: g1v2
    WELL IF CITIZENS ARE READY TO GO FOR RELAX TO THE MIDDLE EAST RISKING THEIR LIFE AND LIFE OF THE NEAREST - I can only offer them the Darwin Prize for the most stupid death to be nominated. All that happens to them is their own merit. Explosions at the airport in Turkey are evidence of this. fool
    Tomatoes are unlikely to meet the requirements, only the wording of the ban can change. In the end, no one canceled the food safety program, and the section on ground vegetables, too. No wonder that a lot of huge greenhouses have been built recently throughout Russia.
    But the power plant is likely to begin to build. Maybe the Turkish stream, too, if the EU and the Bulgarians did not come to their senses and decide to agree on a southern stream. Either the southern or Turkish stream - the choice for the EU.
    Well, the fact that the pumping was half a year relative to Turkey is so natural. There was a high probability of war with Turkey, and the population had to be prepared for this. MEET NOW - MEANS AGREED AND WAR WILL NOT BE. But a negative attitude towards the Turks will come in handy - it will be more difficult for their intelligence to act in the Russian Federation. request

    Well, according to statistics, death at the hands of terrorists is unlikely than death in a car!
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 29 June 2016 20: 10
      0
      It's hard to argue with that.
  • DON-100
    DON-100 29 June 2016 15: 20
    +13
    Nothing, now the zombie man will tell and explain everything about what a wonderful country Turkey is and what good tomatoes they have)) and all this mass who hated the Turks yesterday will begin to assent amicably yes)) Putin knows better, he’s the president, and we are small , ordinary people)) and crowds of Russians will fill the beaches of Antalya.
  • ramzes1776
    ramzes1776 29 June 2016 15: 21
    +16
    Quote: 1 Nikita
    Again wiped. Not long enough for us

    The same feelings as after Serdyuk were granted amnesty and Vasiliev was released. The opinion of the people of our government is deeply us .. !!!
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 29 June 2016 15: 25
    +2
    At the same time, the Kremlin’s press service notes that it was instructed to begin the process of removing barriers for Russian tourists to travel to Turkey.

    And what will actually be removed? Aeroflot both flew and flies, tourist visas are issued. Charter will resume, but travel agencies are activated. The question is whether there are many potential suicides in Russia who want to substitute for a bomb or a bullet.