Mountain riflemen from Germany arrive in Estonia, and German self-propelled guns arrive in Lithuania.

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In early July, a company of the mountain infantry battalion of the Armed Forces of the Federal Republic of Germany will arrive in Estonia for duty; RIA News message of the Estonian military department.



“In total this year, two companies of the 231 th mountain rifle battalion of the 23 th mountain rifle brigade of the German Defense Forces will arrive in Estonia. The group of preliminary accommodation of mountain rangers is already in Estonia, and the main part of the company will arrive at the place of deployment next week. Until mid-August, the mountain huntsmen will serve in Estonia, then they will be replaced by another company from the same battalion, which will remain here until the end of September, ”the release says.

German huntsmen will be located in a military town located in the city of Tapa. The total number of troops in both companies is about 190 people.

In turn, the Lithuanian Ministry of Defense reported on the delivery to the country of the first two self-propelled howitzers PzH 2000, the batch of which was purchased from the Bundeswehr from the presence.



In total, according to the contract worth € 58 million, 21 self-propelled howitzer will be delivered to Lithuania.

According to the report, the PzH 2000 howitzers will be re-equipped by the artillery division named after General Romualdas Hydraitis 1 of the Iron Wolf Mechanized Brigade, currently equipped with 18 old American 105-mm M10.1 towed howitzers
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  1. +18
    29 June 2016 11: 36
    Are there mountains in Estonia?
    1. +8
      29 June 2016 11: 37
      Apparently there is. Now in the West it is fashionable to set negative rates on the yield of securities. Perhaps this trend has reached the German military. They will be underground mountain shooters in Estonia.
      1. +10
        29 June 2016 11: 40
        Nemchura again climbed to our borders ..... (USA is understandable ...)))) Well, damn it is no longer forgiven if that! We will tear our teeth this time! angry
        1. +6
          29 June 2016 11: 44
          Quote: Chariton
          Mountain shooters from Germany arrive in Estonia

          Strange ... the "Rostov Mountains" seem to be far away. smile
          Maybe it's arrow arrows? In Estonia, that’s it. feel
          1. +1
            29 June 2016 11: 51
            Quote: SRC P-15
            Quote: Chariton
            Mountain shooters from Germany arrive in Estonia

            Strange ... the "Rostov Mountains" seem to be far away. smile
            Maybe it's arrow arrows? In Estonia, that’s it. feel

            They’ll rush to the Caucasus again ...)))) Didn’t think about it, all the same ... hi
            1. +8
              29 June 2016 12: 19
              Quote: Chariton
              They’ll rush to the Caucasus again ...)))) Didn’t think about it, all the same


              it’s not necessary to call the Germans stupid .... at the backing they still jump, but when it comes to the third call with a full house they will quietly remain in the buffet ... Remember Libya .. (Rommel’s swing was not forgotten there and the Germans flatly refused to participate in this adventure states ...) besides, they probably guess that if the Russians enter Berlin for the third time, then it will be too late to apologize ... it's not 45 where even the norms of subsistence for the population of the Soviet occupation zone were approximately equal to the norms for their population .. .
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              2. 0
                29 June 2016 16: 00
                In terms of the preparation of the United States and the "collective West" of the 3rd MV against Russia, the appearance of purely German military units in the Baltic states - count on the Russian border - draws attention to the following message.

                On June 27 on June 2016, at a meeting in Prague, German Foreign Minister Steinmeier and his French counterpart Eiro presented to the Foreign Ministers of the Visegrad Four countries (Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia) an 9-page document in cat. we are talking about a plan to create a "European superstate". The Polish television channel described this document as an ultimatum. It is understood that the constituent parts of the projected superstate will lose their sovereign right to have their own armed forces, national currency and their own tax system. In addition, member states of the proposed supranational entity will lose control over their borders, as well as procedures for the reception and accommodation of refugees.
                Steinmeier-Ayro Memorandum, titled “A strong Europe in the world of uncertainties”, was prepared, as it turned out, even before the referendum on Britain's exit from the European Union. This information, of course, sheds additional light on the reasons that prompted the British government to organize this referendum. Anyway, Brexit facilitated and accelerated the promotion of the “European superstate” project, the idea of ​​which had matured and hatched for a long time.
                Polish Foreign Minister Vashchikovsky reacted negativelydiplomatically stating that "Europe and our voters do not want to give the Union into the hands of technocrats." Besides, the most important component of Warsaw’s European policy is the “containment” of neighbors: Germany in the West, Russia in the East - it rises to the degree of Germanophobia (!) and Russophobia (!). And no matter how much they say in Berlin that they don’t think about a “superstate”, they only think about how to create a “better Europe” after Britain’s “departure”, Poles understand that "Better Europe" in the view of the Germans is German Europe. In this part of the Old World, no other is given.

                The appearance of parts of the German Armed Forces in the Baltic states only prove this.

                See details - http://politobzor.net/show-97913-cherez-brexit-k-evropeyskomu-supergosudarstvu.h
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          2. +12
            29 June 2016 11: 54
            Silent nemchura again crept to our borders.

            Miiiiiiirirnye such Germans.

            They are not fascists at all, these past Germans were fascists, and these chances, kind and fluffy, came to our borders to protect our dream.
            1. +9
              29 June 2016 13: 49
              Quote: Temples
              Silent nemchura again crept to our borders.

              Miiiiiiirirnye such Germans.

              They are not fascists at all, these past Germans were fascists, and these chances, kind and fluffy, came to our borders to protect our dream.


              - Hans! Decline the Russian word "run".
              Hans:
              - I'm running, he is running, she is running, you are running, we are running ...
              Suddenly he fell silent and bowed his head.
              Teacher wanting to help:
              - Hans, and "they", "they" what are they doing?
              Hans sighs heavily, answers:
              - And they introduce tank corps into the breakthrough and successfully advance!
          3. +1
            29 June 2016 13: 25
            Quote: SRC P-15
            Mountain shooters from Germany arrive in Estonia


            During the war, German mountain shooters also fought on the territory of the adjacent Pskov region, oddly enough. There are only forests, swamps, rivers and lakes. There are a lot of hills. In 1943, mountain shooters and other German units first tried to recapture the Great Luke, then - not to miss the Soviet troops to the west .. In short, many of these mountain shooters remained to lie among the swamps.
            1. 0
              29 June 2016 13: 33
              In 1943, mountain shooters and other German units first tried to recapture the Great Luke, then - not to miss the Soviet troops to the west .. In short, many of these mountain shooters remained to lie among the swamps.
              Nostalgia?
              1. +1
                29 June 2016 13: 51
                Quote: lukke
                Nostalgia?

                Maybe. But, if anything, a swamp for their grave can also be arranged in Estonia.
        2. +3
          29 June 2016 11: 54
          Khariton RU Today, 11:40 ↑ New
          Nemchura again climbed to our borders ..... (USA is understandable ...)))) Well, damn it is no longer forgiven if that! We will tear our teeth this time! angry

          This time we’re not going to tear our colleague. We’ll just erase Germany as such and turn it into nuclear ash. The whole of Germany without a trace. The Germans should be wiped away like a race. All under the root. They do not understand what it means to live in peace. Every time they excuse themselves that not all German people are bad and there are good burghers will not pass. The Germans must clearly understand as soon as the foot of a German soldier cross the border of Russia. It does not matter with whom in the same company and under what pretext. Or we will understand that there will be an invasion. The first nuclear strike in Europe immediately on Germany am
          1. 0
            29 June 2016 12: 05
            Quote: Observer2014
            Khariton RU Today, 11:40 ↑ New
            Nemchura again climbed to our borders ..... (USA is understandable ...)))) Well, damn it is no longer forgiven if that! We will tear our teeth this time! angry

            This time we’re not going to tear our colleague. We’ll just erase Germany as such and turn it into nuclear ash. The whole of Germany without a trace. The Germans should be wiped away like a race. All under the root. They do not understand what it means to live in peace. Every time they excuse themselves that not all German people are bad and there are good burghers will not pass. The Germans must clearly understand as soon as the foot of a German soldier cross the border of Russia. It does not matter with whom in the same company and under what pretext. Or we will understand that there will be an invasion. The first nuclear strike in Europe immediately on Germany am

            I suggested that the Russians deliver a preemptive nuclear strike against Germany, but here you are in another article on the Bundeswehr rearmament program, but you did not support my idea, motivating this program to take a lot of time and during that time the Germans can change their minds, and they apparently did not change their mind.
            1. +6
              29 June 2016 12: 12
              razmik72-: here is my comment on that topic:
              Not. Rearmament is not done in a day. Therefore, the Germans have a chance to come to their senses. And such victims from the Germans as the Russian people suffered, Russia will no longer tolerate.
              1. -13
                29 June 2016 12: 20
                Quote: Observer2014
                razmik72-: here is my comment on that topic:
                Not. Rearmament is not done in a day. Therefore, the Germans have a chance to come to their senses. And such victims from the Germans as the Russian people suffered, Russia will no longer tolerate.

                Unfortunately, in the current realities, if a war starts, Russia will definitely not win it, because not only Germans will climb into Russia, as in 41, but the entire NATO bloc, and in addition, Japan will not stand aside and, possibly, will join at the end, China. Russia fought many of its wars with Germany and Turkey in a coalition. Alone Russia fought Japan in 1904-1905, the result was not "inspiring."
                1. +9
                  29 June 2016 12: 38
                  Quote: razmik72
                  , Russia will definitely not win it, because not only Germans will climb to Russia, as in 41, but the entire NATO bloc, and in addition Japan will not be left out


                  Razmik You would re-read the history of the Second World War ... who climbed to Russia at 41 ... this is a school course ... Europe plowed all over Germany, and sent its divisions as an ally to the eastern front ...
                  1. -11
                    29 June 2016 12: 58
                    Quote: vorobey
                    Quote: razmik72
                    , Russia will definitely not win it, because not only Germans will climb to Russia, as in 41, but the entire NATO bloc, and in addition Japan will not be left out


                    Razmik You would re-read the history of the Second World War ... who climbed to Russia at 41 ... this is a school course ... Europe plowed all over Germany, and sent its divisions as an ally to the eastern front ...

                    I know the history of WWII very well, Russia was helped by Great Britain with its colonies and the United States, Turkey as a state did not participate in the war, although it did not really sympathize with Russia. Japan did not participate in the war, this time the staff members would drag it into the war.
                    1. +8
                      29 June 2016 13: 53
                      Quote: razmik72
                      Great Britain helped Russia with its colonies and the USA


                      open the topic ... compare the potentials and volumes in numbers ... which corps and armies from the USA and Great Britain grind German divisions on the eastern front ... highlight the Lend Lease topic in a separate line to compare volumes with output in the USSR ... wink
                      1. -4
                        29 June 2016 14: 04
                        Quote: vorobey
                        Quote: razmik72
                        Great Britain helped Russia with its colonies and the USA


                        open the topic ... compare the potentials and volumes in numbers ... which corps and armies from the USA and Great Britain grind German divisions on the eastern front ... highlight the Lend Lease topic in a separate line to compare volumes with output in the USSR ... wink

                        I don’t want to touch on this hackneyed topic about whose contribution to WWII, but let's ignore the opposite - the Soviet Union would have won if Great Britain and the United States fought against it, and Japan had not stood aside along with Turkey . Keep in mind that today's Russia, as it is not pleasant to realize, is only a pale shadow in comparison with the most powerful Soviet Union of the 1941 model.
                      2. +4
                        29 June 2016 14: 21
                        Quote: razmik72
                        This hackneyed topic about the one whose contribution to WWII is greater, I do not want to touch


                        and so merge ... he himself touched and now to drain ...

                        Quote: razmik72
                        let's ignore the opposite - the Soviet Union would have won if Great Britain and the USA fought against it together with Germany, and Japan would not stand aside with Turkey.


                        I do not want to disengage myself ... I know who won and at what cost ...


                        Quote: razmik72
                        present-day Russia, as it is not pleasant to realize, is only a pale shadow in comparison with the most powerful Soviet Union of the 1941 model.


                        argue ... and it’s all more blah blah ... it seems ... but what kind of shadow is Armenia then ... and why is it holding on to Russia like that? Maybe also to the Turks in NATO?
                      3. -1
                        29 June 2016 14: 44
                        Quote: vorobey
                        Quote: razmik72
                        This hackneyed topic about the one whose contribution to WWII is greater, I do not want to touch


                        and so merge ... he himself touched and now to drain ...

                        Quote: razmik72
                        let's ignore the opposite - the Soviet Union would have won if Great Britain and the USA fought against it together with Germany, and Japan would not stand aside with Turkey.


                        I do not want to disengage myself ... I know who won and at what cost ...


                        Quote: razmik72
                        present-day Russia, as it is not pleasant to realize, is only a pale shadow in comparison with the most powerful Soviet Union of the 1941 model.


                        argue ... and it’s all more blah blah ... it seems ... but what kind of shadow is Armenia then ... and why is it holding on to Russia like that? Maybe also to the Turks in NATO?

                        Slightly what you poke in the nose of Armenia. Armenia does not claim to be a superpower and in the case of a real third or some kind of world war, to my great regret, it will not be able to help Russia. My comment on this, I’ve been trying to convey to you my thought that in the event of a large-scale war Russia will be alone and no one will help her, and this is a direct path to military defeat.
                2. -8
                  29 June 2016 12: 48
                  Well, cons, dear, if you do not agree with me, object. At the moment, Russia, in the event of a world war, will remain alone, this entire CSTO military bloc is just a fiction, in the case of a serious schukher Russia will remain alone, with all the will Armenia I can’t help Russia in any way, but I’ve already seen others — when in November 2015 Turkey shot down the Russian SU-24, the Armenian representative in the CSTO, who was the chairman of this organization at that moment, condemned the actions of the Turkish side. To my surprise, the Armenian side heard shouts from Astana and Minsk, as well as Bishkek, where the Armenian side was told that no one authorized official Yerevan to make such statements, that is, these countries practically refused to help Russia.
                  1. 0
                    29 June 2016 17: 47
                    Quote: razmik72
                    Well, cons, dear, if you do not agree with me, object.

                    You can object.
                    let's ignore the opposite - the Soviet Union would have won if Great Britain and the USA fought against it together with Germany, and Japan would not stand aside with Turkey.

                    The USSR fought essentially alone with all of Europe. All industry in Europe worked for Hitler. In all the captured countries, national armies were created, under the flag of the SS.
                    Substantial aid came from the "allies" only after the breakdown near Moscow; before that, more aid was recited.
                3. +3
                  29 June 2016 13: 21
                  What kind of fantasies - you still remember the Tatar-Mongol yoke, you understand that there will be a war of military technology. 1904 ... Well this is poison
                  1. -3
                    29 June 2016 13: 27
                    Quote: antifa
                    What kind of fantasies - you still remember the Tatar-Mongol yoke, you understand that there will be a war of military technology. 1904 ... Well this is poison

                    Tell me a few breakthrough military technologies developed in modern Russia, without a Soviet legacy, and introduced into the army and industry.
                    1. +2
                      29 June 2016 14: 00
                      Quote: razmik72
                      Tell me a few breakthrough military technologies developed in today's Russia, without a Soviet legacy, and introduced into the army and industry

                      What is this for? to scold modern Russia or essentially argue? Well, let's say hypersound is already in full swing during trials. Not a breakthrough technology? Not? In the end, what matters is breakthrough technology if no one has canceled nuclear weapons. But, in this case, no one will win, but we will not lose either. That's for sure.
                    2. +2
                      29 June 2016 14: 18
                      And why do you think that it is not necessary to take into account the "Soviet legacy" ??? Americans and Europeans do not hesitate to use this experience.
                      Or maybe you think that tanks, planes, ships, etc. it is necessary to start developing anew, in principle I do not use the Soviet experience. This is something like: "Let's reinvent the wheel !!!"
                4. +4
                  29 June 2016 13: 36
                  if the war starts, Russia will definitely not win it, because not only Germans will climb to Russia, as in 41, but the entire NATO bloc, but in addition Japan will not stand aside and, possibly, will join in the end, China
                  in this scenario, no one will win .... except for cockroaches and rats perhaps ..
                  1. -4
                    29 June 2016 13: 52
                    Quote: lukke
                    if the war starts, Russia will definitely not win it, because not only Germans will climb to Russia, as in 41, but the entire NATO bloc, but in addition Japan will not stand aside and, possibly, will join in the end, China
                    in this scenario, no one will win .... except for cockroaches and rats perhaps ..

                    Why no one wins, I noticed that Russia has a very dense urban development and there are several critical cities that can be hit with a nuclear strike, after which Russia as a single centralized state ceases to exist, which is not observed in the same States, you can read the classics of Soviet literature "One-story America". A nuclear strike on the United States will be heavy, but not critical. The United States as a state will not cease to exist, such a hyena as China or Iran, for example, does not grow and gain power around the States.
                    1. +3
                      29 June 2016 14: 07
                      Quote: razmik72
                      Why no one wins, I noticed that Russia has a very dense urban development and there are several critical cities that can be hit with a nuclear strike, after which Russia as a single centralized state ceases to exist, which is not observed in the same States, you can read the classics of Soviet literature "One-story America". A nuclear strike on the United States will be heavy, but not critical. The United States as a state will not cease to exist, such a hyena as China or Iran, for example, does not grow and gain power around the States.

                      The United States also has weaknesses. You talk so easily about the criticality of nuclear strikes that it is as if you yourself will make decisions for all parties when they should stop. Leave your fantasies to yourself. They are of little interest. The fact that little will not seem to anyone, and so everyone understands.
                      1. -1
                        29 June 2016 14: 20
                        My "fantasies" are not cooler than the fantasies of members of the forum, every day calling for a nuclear apocalypse, I am no different from them, I just, as a former military man, can distinguish between weaknesses. If not the daily spells of the forum member under the nickname Khariton and the forum member under the nickname Observer 2014, I would not write this comment.
                      2. 0
                        29 June 2016 14: 45
                        Quote: razmik72
                        If not the daily spells of a forum member under the nickname Khariton and a forum member under the nickname Observer 2014, I would not write this comment.

                        Damn it, pull yourself together. You try to go against it simply because you don’t like what these people say and you yourself, it turns out, contrast yourself with completely patriotic comrades. Keep silent better. Silence is gold, otherwise you are just drifting from the patriots to the opposite camp and are still annoyed that you are being mined.
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                      4. -2
                        29 June 2016 14: 59
                        Quote: DenZ
                        Quote: razmik72
                        If not the daily spells of a forum member under the nickname Khariton and a forum member under the nickname Observer 2014, I would not write this comment.

                        Damn it, pull yourself together. You try to go against it simply because you don’t like what these people say and you yourself, it turns out, contrast yourself with completely patriotic comrades. Keep silent better. Silence is gold, otherwise you simply drift from the patriots to the opposite camp.

                        I was not in a nuclear war, but in a conventional one, and I didn’t like it. When a friend under the nickname Khariton so easily calls for a nuclear apocalypse, figuratively speaking, my sweat appears on my forehead, since Armenia is in the Collective Security Treaty Organization in the event of a world war and we will get it. Here I am trying to cool the ardor of the forum users, pointing out the weaknesses of Russia. In my opinion, many of the forum users did not fight if they so easily called for a nuclear strike. Here and in his comment from below the forum users from Adler Observer 2014 again calls for a nuclear strike .
                      5. 0
                        29 June 2016 15: 32
                        Quote: razmik72
                        I wasn’t in a nuclear war, but in a normal one, and I didn’t like it. When a friend under the nickname Khariton so easily calls for a nuclear apocalypse, figuratively speaking, my sweat is on my forehead, since Armenia is in the Collective Security Treaty Organization in the event of a world war and we will get it. Here I am trying to cool the ardor of the forum users, pointing out the weaknesses of Russia. In my opinion, many of the forum users did not fight if they so easily called for a nuclear strike. Here and in his comment from below the forum users from Adler Observer 2014 again calls for a nuclear strike
                        Well, I agree with you, it’s just wrong to trumpet from all directions about a nuclear strike, but you need to clearly understand yourself (and not listen to such heralds) that in case of great danger (just big) Russia will use nuclear weapons without asking both you and the Observer 2014 . You are in Armenia and I In Yekaterinburg, we have the headquarters of the Central Military District here, if anything, there are enough military factories. Imagine how exciting all this should be to us. Observer 2014, by the way, is largely right (below about the trenches and Armenia), but I do not think that he sincerely wants an apocalypse.
                      6. +2
                        29 June 2016 15: 31
                        America has one weak point - geography. With the current development of nuclear weapons, it’s not at all difficult to wash away 80 percent of the population.
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                    3. +1
                      29 June 2016 16: 15
                      Quote: razmik72
                      which is not observed in the same States, you can read the classics of Soviet literature "One-Story America".

                      what nonsense ??????? yes there are solid skyscrapers !!! ё! ё! there are more people in one than in some of your cities. Do you even watch television with footage about America ??? well, at least in the news? Well, look at least any of their film disaster ...
                5. +4
                  29 June 2016 14: 45
                  razmik72
                  Unfortunately, in the current realities, if a war starts, Russia will definitely not win it, because not only Germans will climb into Russia, as in 41, but the entire NATO bloc, and in addition, Japan will not stand aside and, possibly, will join at the end, China. Russia fought many of its wars with Germany and Turkey in a coalition. Alone Russia fought Japan in 1904-1905, the result was not "inspiring."

                  Razmik The Russian army is not Armenian. We are not going to dig trenches against NATO. And we won’t play with them in the trench war. Russia has the largest number of nuclear charges. And we have a bit more ways than to deliver them to a lot. And not Germans, no one will be saved. Russia has the largest reserves of weapons-grade plutonium. The half-life is 24000 years. As a last resort, it’s a dirty mega bomb. And Adyus is all NATO, and the rest of the living will envy the dead. All the rest of the fashionable weapons are bullshit. Tuff that is rubbed on the ears weapons companies. Just one explosion of 10 megatons in the center of Europe and hello to the Stone Age. And if there are three dozen smaller explosions at once?
                  1. 0
                    29 June 2016 15: 06
                    Quote: Observer2014
                    razmik72
                    Unfortunately, in the current realities, if a war starts, Russia will definitely not win it, because not only Germans will climb into Russia, as in 41, but the entire NATO bloc, and in addition, Japan will not stand aside and, possibly, will join at the end, China. Russia fought many of its wars with Germany and Turkey in a coalition. Alone Russia fought Japan in 1904-1905, the result was not "inspiring."

                    Razmik The Russian army is not Armenian. We are not going to dig trenches against NATO. And we won’t play with them in the trench war. Russia has the largest number of nuclear charges. And we have a bit more ways than to deliver them to a lot. And not Germans, no one will be saved. Russia has the largest reserves of weapons-grade plutonium. The half-life is 24000 years. As a last resort, it’s a dirty mega bomb. And Adyus is all NATO, and the rest of the living will envy the dead. All the rest of the fashionable weapons are bullshit. Tuff that is rubbed on the ears weapons companies. Just one explosion of 10 megatons in the center of Europe and hello to the Stone Age. And if there are three dozen smaller explosions at once?

                    Calm, comrade from Adler, only calm wink I would advise you not to start a nuclear war, it won’t seem to anyone. For me, as a former participant in the hostilities, the prospect of a nuclear war is not very enthusiastic.
                    1. +2
                      29 June 2016 15: 50
                      razmik72quote
                      Calm, comrade from Adler, only calm wink
                      I don’t need to ascribe me to Adler. I like Khostinsky district more laughing
                6. 0
                  29 June 2016 16: 07
                  Quote: razmik72
                  Unfortunately, in the current realities, if the war starts, Russia will definitely not win it, because not only Germans will climb to Russia, as in 41, but the entire NATO bloc,

                  they will climb a country with nuclear weapons ???? are you out of your mind yes suicides have already transferred. we get, the legs from the geyropa will remain a radioactive ashes. Yes, if they were at least 50% sure of victory, we would have fought for a long time. and Sasha will not start a war, they understand that they will receive the first blow. it is not in vain that our nuclear triad is called the CONTENT Weapon. he brought eee then Brezhnev, the President of France, to Baikonur and showed him a salvo launch. this is when 10 missiles from the mines start one by one. after a while a report came, all goals were hit. The President inquired, but is it directed at France? Of course, they answered him. but there After all, the Louvre, etc., the world cultural capital ... and there still NATO headquarters answered him. The president has left. a week later, the headquarters moved to Brussels, and a month later France left NATO
          2. +3
            29 June 2016 14: 22
            Quote: Observer2014
            The first nuclear strike in Europe immediately on Germany am


            As a personal request - do not forget about England, please! Half a hundred missiles for World War II will not solve anything, but England will be enough for the eyes and will no longer be impudent to spoil Mother Russia ..
            1. -2
              29 June 2016 14: 36
              Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
              Quote: Observer2014
              The first nuclear strike in Europe immediately on Germany am


              As a personal request - do not forget about England, please! Half a hundred missiles for World War II will not solve anything, but England will be enough for the eyes and will no longer be impudent to spoil Mother Russia ..

              I have no connections with your General Staff, here is a military site, contact other forum users, they will help you in realizing your dream fellow .
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        3. +1
          29 June 2016 16: 04
          Quote: Chariton
          Well damn it is no longer forgiven if that! We will tear our teeth this time!


          You are so eager for battle ... in the event of a war with Germany ... you would be in the front row of the first strike group ... the ardor was reduced.
          The Germans were torn with teeth many times ... but sooner or later they regained their power. These people need to either be destroyed or taken under wing (as was the case with the GDR, which were the most combat-ready and reliable allies of Russia in the whole time of the existence of Russia)

          With a smile on my face, I look at how modern experts assess the army .... the number of fighters, equipment, aviation. Germany is almost at the end of the list because of its small number, which "experts assess as little combat-ready. At least I think that a surprise awaits anyone who thinks the same as these lousy experts.

          Underestimation always and again - always came out sideways. The USA underestimated "Papuan" Vietnam, and paid a great price for it. France and China also fell on the same rake.
          1. +3
            29 June 2016 17: 58
            Quote: HERMES
            .This people must either be destroyed or taken under the wing (as was the case with the GDR, which were the most combat-ready and reliable allies of Russia in the entire existence of Russia)


            You actually proceeded to Bismarck only in your own words ... it was he who said - why do we have to frustrate the 60 millionth Russian people who, at the first opportunity, will become an ally of any German enemy. it is better to enter into alliances with it for the benefit of Germany (the last sentence is not verbatim ... guilty, I do not remember)

            Quote: HERMES
            You are so eager for battle ... in the event of a war with Germany ... you would be in the front row of the first strike group ...


            and I'm ready ... better with a bullet in the head than with an enema in the ass (old age)


            Quote: HERMES
            The Germans were torn with teeth many times ... but sooner or later they regained their power


            but not the spirit ... If it weren’t for the Russian-speaking Germans who moved to Germany in the 90s .. we wouldn’t have known this people ... judging by how raped Germans in Cologne apologize to rapists ... I'm just crying .. I am Russian, crying with shame for the Germans ...
            1. +1
              29 June 2016 21: 30
              Quote: vorobey
              but not the spirit ... If it weren’t for the Russian-speaking Germans who moved to Germany in the 90s .. we wouldn’t have known this people ... judging by how raped Germans in Cologne apologize to rapists ... I'm just crying .. I am Russian, crying with shame for the Germans ...

              Yes ... the Germans degraded greatly ... more precisely, this was greatly facilitated from outside ... The German Democratic Republics were the last of those worthy of their name.

              Modern Germans are a ghost of past greatness .... but no matter how bad things were - they still have strength. The Japs don’t mind ... Psheks, Czechs, Romanians, Bulgarians too ... always were bullshit.
              But the Germans ... however paradoxical it may sound. There could be no better ally for Russia besides the army and navy than the Germans. A terrible dream for everyone else.
              Even theoretically, be the Third Reich an ally of the USSR .... having at your disposal the resources and a huge prospect of industrial power of the USSR, I’m sure that the German boot, even without the help of the Red Army, ended up marching on all continents for a victorious march.

              As for today ... it’s still too early to write them off.
        4. +1
          29 June 2016 17: 09
          Nemchura again climbed to our borders ....

          NATO exercises are reminiscent of the game "Zarnitsa" .. And a real meeting of well-groomed NATO members with the Russians may be the same as in 1944 with the Fritzes ...

          From the memoirs of a Pole:

          “Clean and tidy German soldiers jumped into their huge trucks, which roared out of the village with a roar. After some time, a column of Soviet foot soldiers appeared. Dirty, long unshaven, tired, they slowly entered the village.

          To the puzzled question of the little boy, why clean and full of strength German soldiers fled from these emaciated and barely standing on their feet, his father answered him:

          “And look into their eyes. They are nothing and no one will stop ... " soldier
        5. 0
          29 June 2016 17: 38
          Mountain riflemen from Germany arrive in Estonia, and German self-propelled guns arrive in Lithuania.

          The history of the Fritz does not teach history ...
      2. +2
        29 June 2016 11: 44
        Quote: oleg-gr
        They will be underground mountain shooters in Estonia.

        yes rather marshy arrows
      3. +6
        29 June 2016 12: 06
        There are mountains. Lying police officers were set up, so the mountains appeared laughing
    2. +12
      29 June 2016 11: 38
      Quote: alex74nur
      Are there mountains in Estonia?

      Well, Ukrainians will come to the rescue and dig up the sea and pour mountains. fellow
    3. 0
      29 June 2016 11: 59
      But I wonder who pays for these teachings? Estonia? Do they have extra money? It would be better if they were involved in the economy.
    4. +2
      29 June 2016 12: 06
      No, but they will soon have to re-qualify as marine divers-diggers, dig the Belarusian Sea off the coast of Belarus. :)
      For NATO is creeping too close to our borders.
    5. +1
      29 June 2016 12: 18
      Quote: alex74nur
      Are there mountains in Estonia?

      Suur-Munamyagi, in the southeast, the only one in the entire Baltic region, 300 meters high ...
    6. +1
      29 June 2016 13: 09
      alex74nur RU Today, 11:36
      Are there mountains in Estonia?

      Dill will be called, not in the first, they will fill laughing fool
    7. 0
      29 June 2016 13: 25
      They will attack in the Rostov mountains. As soon as the aircraft carrier crosses them through the Belarusian Sea.
    8. 0
      29 June 2016 13: 39
      Quote: alex74nur
      Are there mountains in Estonia?

      They will invite their friends, seine-digging mountain-dredgers. They bungled them for the shem of sala of the Himalayas. fellow
    9. 0
      29 June 2016 13: 56
      In the Great Patriotic War, German and Italian mountain rangers also did not always fight in the mountains. Well, what mountains are these in Stalingrad?
    10. 0
      29 June 2016 13: 56
      In the Great Patriotic War, German and Italian mountain rangers also did not always fight in the mountains. Well, what mountains are these in Stalingrad?
    11. 0
      29 June 2016 14: 03
      There will be gorges if they don't calm down. But there are no mountains, you have to endure with the mountains.
    12. 0
      29 June 2016 14: 30
      Quote: alex74nur
      Are there mountains in Estonia?

      Actually there is. (Glory to Wikipedia!)

      Suur Munamägi (Est. Suur Munamägi, translated “Big Egg Mountain” or “Big Egg Mountain”) is the highest mountain in Estonia and the Baltic states as a whole. Height - 318 meters above sea level. It is located in Võru County in the southeastern part of Estonia on the hilly hill of Haanya. Nearby is the village of Haanja.

      318 meters above sea level is the same place for mountain shooters.
      I wonder how many meters from the bottom to the top of this highest "mountain"?
    13. 0
      29 June 2016 14: 50
      Quote: alex74nur
      Are there mountains in Estonia?



      And I always suspected that at school, in geography classes, they didn’t say anything to me ...
    14. 0
      29 June 2016 16: 36
      Quote: alex74nur
      Are there mountains in Estonia?

      But now there are Germans there again, it’s necessary to cheer them up, damn it, and what kind of people they don’t have everything, is it really so difficult to understand that it’s not safe to drive to our borders by bicycle, we regard the rest as a threat, especially if the Germans are Americans !
    15. 0
      29 June 2016 18: 17
      This is the usual dibilism that has now taken over the United States and NATO. Apparently these mountain arrows arrived aiming at the Belarusian swamps.
    16. 0
      29 June 2016 21: 06
      Lowlands and ravines will imitate mountains.
    17. 0
      29 June 2016 21: 51
      Rota .. whole company ... no, let two ... laughing
  2. +21
    29 June 2016 11: 36
    In early July, a company of the German Mountain Battalion will arrive in Estonia to perform service


    High-high in the mountains of Estonia ... wink wassat

    Mountain Rifle Battalion
    Gone in the mountains of Estonia
    Whether in the gorge he collapsed
    Ile stuck under an avalanche
    So send them more
    What would there be another hit
    It’s cooler than these rocks
    I, brothers, have never seen
    wink drinks
    1. +2
      29 June 2016 13: 06
      Is it necessary to sing on the lezginka motif? wassat
      1. +5
        29 June 2016 13: 16
        Better on the motive of "Suliko"! laughing
  3. +7
    29 June 2016 11: 37
    named after General Romualdas Gidraitis
    Shaw for the general, what is he famous for, he took Moscow or Paris?
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    2. +8
      29 June 2016 11: 44
      to see from those that hid best in the forest when the Red Army was advancing .. laughing
      1. +2
        29 June 2016 11: 47
        Quote: Black
        to see from those that hid best in the forest when the Red Army was advancing ..

        To the last, it means that he kept laughing
    3. +1
      29 June 2016 11: 47
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Shaw for the general, what is he famous for, he took Moscow or Paris?

      Wikipedia is silent about this character. Google too request
      1. +1
        29 June 2016 12: 18
        Quote: Lukich
        Wikipedia is silent about this character. Google too

        Yes, I also looked, there is nothing. But he is damn popular in Lithuania. It’s real to see from those who have sketched through the forests. We, too, in the Caucasus were full of emirs running through the mountains. In general, as I understood by the general, this Gidraitis was some kind of gang.
        1. 0
          29 June 2016 12: 34
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          In general, as I understood by the general, this Gidraitis was some kind of gang.

          or maybe some privates in the caches, but according to the length of service before the general grew up?
      2. 0
        29 June 2016 12: 36
        Or someone does not know how to search;) He Gedraites (Romualdo Giedraičio)
        1. +2
          29 June 2016 12: 43
          Quote: cyberhanter
          Or someone does not know how to search;) He Gedraites (Romualdo Giedraičio)



          Yes, they were looking for ... even the English-language Wikipedia gives information only about the battalion of his name .. enlighten us darling than he is so famous for this general ... feel
    4. 0
      29 June 2016 12: 36
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      named after General Romualdas Gidraitis
      Shaw for the general, what is he famous for, he took Moscow or Paris?

      Such a famous general that only mention of him is the existence of the artillery division of his name.
  4. +12
    29 June 2016 11: 37
    In my opinion, the Baltic states were quietly occupied. smile... Gauleiter left to appoint from the Germans laughing
    1. +1
      29 June 2016 11: 45
      Quote: Black
      In my opinion, the Baltic states were quietly occupied. smile... Gauleiter left to appoint from the Germans laughing

      Soon they will come to Ukraine in a quiet ... Israel is your rule there, what kind of things begin again ..? All damn forgot and united again ...
    2. +4
      29 June 2016 11: 48
      They have been occupied for a long time, economically, politically, and now they have sent the military .. these two companies do not play any role in the military confrontation, if only they would look after the locals so that they wouldn’t infuriate or if these companies were not cover for experts in the field of espionage, sabotage and intelligence .
    3. +3
      29 June 2016 11: 49
      Quote: Black
      In my opinion, the Baltic states were quietly occupied.

      so they call the invaders. Well, they can’t live without a master !!!! such a mentality
  5. +1
    29 June 2016 11: 38
    War Clown Show continues!
    Take seats according to the tickets purchased!
    1. +1
      29 June 2016 11: 51
      Quote: Serge Boss
      Take seats according to the tickets purchased!

      I have a subscription laughing
  6. +4
    29 June 2016 11: 41
    Quote: Black
    In my opinion, the Baltic states were quietly occupied. smile... Gauleiter left to appoint from the Germans laughing

    all as in 41. only without war. and goals are the same.
  7. +4
    29 June 2016 11: 41
    German self-propelled guns in Lithuania sound symbolic ... especially in connection with the recently passed date-June 22 ...
    1. +3
      29 June 2016 12: 08
      Labus forgot that after the liberation of Belarus, a further offensive began to Berlin :)
  8. +1
    29 June 2016 11: 42
    maybe the Lithuanians will "lose" one self-propelled gun in their forests-fields. I think for ours in Kubinka it would be a very good apparatus.
    1. +2
      29 June 2016 12: 09
      Polesie swamps are waiting for self-propelled visitors in one direction.
  9. +3
    29 June 2016 11: 42
    In short, the extinctions are not against the "voluntary occupation" and trampling in the feces of the remnants of their independence!
  10. +5
    29 June 2016 11: 48
    The Germans have some kind of nostalgia for the past. In less than 72 years, how much (to the cheekbones) pulled there from where they were draping under the pressure of the Red Army. But the Führer is shitty from Merkel, but the squabbling woman with huge ambitions and a claim to the European leadership is just right.
    1. +1
      29 June 2016 12: 29
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The Germans have some kind of nostalgia for the past. In less than 72 years, how much (to the attention of the cheekbones) pulled

      Well. they were there much earlier (remember the time of Alexander Nevsky). apparently still consider this land theirs.
  11. +2
    29 June 2016 11: 51
    "Mountain shooters from Germany arrive in Estonia"...

    What, they believed Psake, who once spoke about the Rostov Mountains ...

    Damn, again "Drang nach Osten" ... Merkel is itching to pull Germany into confusion ... And any confusion has its inglorious end ...
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    2. +3
      29 June 2016 12: 14
      She had heard nothing about the Grodno and Vitebsk mountains .... She would have to dig them together with the Balkans .... Only in their territory would the Bolsheviks have to dig them for herself.
  12. +1
    29 June 2016 11: 53
    Soon they will climb ..... I am already sure of this!
  13. 0
    29 June 2016 11: 58
    iron wolf ... hmm, plasticine is better - does not rust hi
  14. +1
    29 June 2016 12: 00
    Is the "famous" Edelweiss division renamed 23rd?
    Here are two episodes of the activities of this division:
    “In September 1939, during the invasion of Poland, the division took part in driving the Jews of the city of Przemysl (Przemysl) for forced labor. This event was captured by a divisional photographer in a divisional album; comments on the photographs were imbued with strong anti-Semitism.
    On July 25, 1943, divisional soldiers attacked the Greek village of Musiotitsas after they discovered an arms depot not far from it. The troops killed 153 civilians. "


    Now, instead of Greeks and Jews, Russians will go? Well, they were mistaken. And they were cruelly mistaken! The third time the Germans stepped on the same rake already. Masochists Germans, notorious masochists.
    1. +5
      29 June 2016 12: 15
      And time with --- ki as picked up. The liberation of Belarus and the attack on Berlin ...
    2. +1
      29 June 2016 12: 23
      Quote: 1536
      Is the "famous" Edelweiss division renamed 23rd?

      Since the Wehrmacht was disbanded after our Victory, there is no direct heir to the 1st Mountain Division. And since the Bundeswehr is significantly inferior in number to the Wehrmacht, it makes no sense to call entire divisions by big names. Now the 233 mountain infantry battalion from the same 23 mountain infantry brigade bears the name "Edelweiss".
      1. 0
        29 June 2016 13: 00
        The Wehrmacht was not disbanded after our Victory - the British and Yankees kept units of the Wehrmacht on high alert in case they had to fight the Union.
  15. 0
    29 June 2016 12: 15
    In the photo KSK, not CSKA, and the photo in my opinion from the zero years
  16. +10
    29 June 2016 12: 30
    What the Estonian army, as they were accomplices of the Nazis, so they remained. Let's not forget how the Estonian soldier looked in 41-44
  17. +2
    29 June 2016 12: 32
    Again, it’s not a fool on our border ... If that, pah pah, now they just need to be finished off again, only in Bonn and without the right to form their own state. Haha. Something they fanned out and, in general, a rather aggressive nation - Lake Peipsi .... Prussia .... 1 World, 2 World. Or mozahists in life? And these sprat musks ..... well, them in FIG. They themselves will scatter through their swamps and forests. So as not to pick them out from there - immediately cover, because they also got it ..... What is not a pimple, then imagines himself a chirium.
  18. +3
    29 June 2016 12: 33
    The Balts no longer know who to surrender to, but they want to eat something.
  19. +1
    29 June 2016 12: 47
    Well, why the hell are mountain huntsmen sent in Estonia and there are no good hills, and even mountains, let alone mountains, more hearty deutch soldiers will lose their climbing skills, it would be better to go to Pamir or to Everest ...
    1. 0
      29 June 2016 16: 42
      They just didn’t fit in one country, so mountain shooters had to go to Estonia, but self-propelled guns remained in Lithuania ...
  20. +2
    29 June 2016 12: 52
    There is little funny; the Americans around them will not allow this when.
  21. +1
    29 June 2016 12: 57
    Quote: razmik72
    Russia alone fought Japan in 1904-1905, the result was not "inspiring."

    The alliance alone fought against NATO of the 41st model, and then set up the Blitzkrieg to the Japanese in China, so much so that the Germans never dreamed of. I hope you have enough mind not to object that the opening of the second front was not for help from the Allies, but as a counterbalance to the advance of our troops to the English Channel.
  22. +3
    29 June 2016 12: 59
    This is their vaunted prodigy!
    1. 0
      29 June 2016 20: 42
      Quote: eleronn
      This is their vaunted prodigy!


      cool device, weiter so.
      Do you think we can do cars, but there’s no military equipment? laughing
  23. N-yes, they didn’t call those Chukhons in Russia ... Industry gave the USSR the forefront to them, education, the windows of the country. All collapsed! Let the manure dig deeper, but the master's hand, heavier ... fool What did people lack? what
  24. 0
    29 June 2016 13: 04
    Nobody is forgotten, nothing is forgotten !
  25. +1
    29 June 2016 13: 16
    "Edelweiss" and "Death's Head" - history repeats itself
  26. +3
    29 June 2016 13: 24
    On the women's needlework site, one ... girl (let's put it this way) laid out a parade in honor of the day of liberation. Here they wrote about this their liberation day. She was glad that there were NATO soldiers. And he and his daughter were allowed to sit on a motorcycle, and my daughter climbed into the tank. And they took a picture with the NATO member (in appearance - a young Yatsenyuk with glasses). Her women asked - what so much joy? And do they celebrate there on May 9th? Ltd! How insulted she was! How angry she was. And she announced that the NATO people are ordinary people, good people, and we are all vile! That on May 9 nothing to do with it, they lay flowers that day. That the parade on their release is a local tradition, and although it is Russian, it should support it. By the way, a couple of weeks before, she assured me that she wrote with errors, because the Estonian woman was not obliged to know Russian. Here is a population. A little more help from NATO in Estonia, they will no longer be Russian or Estonians, they will be Germans. And Estonia will not be, there will be one of the German lands.
  27. +2
    29 June 2016 13: 41
    Quote: vorobey
    Razmik You would re-read the history of the Second World War ... who climbed to Russia at 41 ... this is a school course ... Europe plowed all over Germany, and sent its divisions as an ally to the eastern front ..

    it should be added that the Americans fascist Germany and the engines and the metal drove so that they received a double benefit and everyone was waiting for someone to join in order to get the benefit. As history shows, they have benefited and received, and not small. So that nothing has changed and touch that teeth will have to be torn again, gnawing a victory in memory of the grandfathers of the winners.
  28. 0
    29 June 2016 13: 51
    The Germans aren’t stupid people, why? How can you not understand that overseas Kent are hurling into the fire? They will play 1945, it will seem just a fright, the state of Germany will disappear in nuclear fire along with the remnants of Europe, without a referendum the whole bunch of idiots will fall apart!
  29. 0
    29 June 2016 13: 58
    More and more often in my head this newsreel arises ... Everything is very familiar ..! hi Damn I can’t, men need to PRESS, before it's too late ..! Let's wait again ... soldier
  30. +1
    29 June 2016 14: 06
    there is a quiet peaceful occupation of tribalt, but they became independent, because nothing depends on them, well, and if something happens, they will make them mountain or waterfowling underground, it’s not even a question
  31. 0
    29 June 2016 14: 16
    You can’t deceive history. Feeling strength after brextitis, our sworn friends and best enemies begin to slowly build muscle.
  32. +1
    29 June 2016 15: 16
    As I understand it, there is an occupation of Tribaltia without declaring war. Strong move. The Europeans are nevertheless preparing for a meeting on the Elbe, only for a different reason.
  33. 0
    29 June 2016 21: 54
    Is there a mountain in Estonia? laughing
  34. 0
    30 June 2016 01: 42
    Quote: razmik72
    Quote: lukke
    if the war starts, Russia will definitely not win it, because not only Germans will climb to Russia, as in 41, but the entire NATO bloc, but in addition Japan will not stand aside and, possibly, will join in the end, China
    in this scenario, no one will win .... except for cockroaches and rats perhaps ..

    Why no one wins, I noticed that Russia has a very dense urban development and there are several critical cities that can be hit with a nuclear strike, after which Russia as a single centralized state ceases to exist, which is not observed in the same States, you can read the classics of Soviet literature "One-story America". A nuclear strike on the United States will be heavy, but not critical. The United States as a state will not cease to exist, such a hyena as China or Iran, for example, does not grow and gain power around the States.

    You write complete nonsense. In the United States, a lot of things are observed that are already at the level of school knowledge, and as far as I understand, this knowledge is not close to your military level. Aren't you ashamed to show such ignorance in your professional field?

    In North America, there is a huge survival vulnerability - the Yellowstone Caldera.

    660-kilometer a magma pillar with a big bump on top under the ass of the USA. In the past, eruptions of this magmatic plume created plains in the place of mountains and mountains around the plains.
    Look at the map of tectonic activity:

    The entire western United States is a continuous volcanic zone. After the forced awakening of Yellowstone, there is a risk of a split in the North American tectonic plate, and these are giant earthquakes, tsunamis, and poisonous ashes. The entire west coast is likely to go under water; huge dips will pass in the Washington area (see map). Now compare with the Eurasian plate.

    So what about survival you are greatly mistaken. However, civilization will not remain anywhere.

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