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"Sultan" apologizes or not? Prospects for the normalization of Russian-Turkish economic relations

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One of the main News of recent days - an unexpected turn in Russian-Turkish relations. According to a number of Russian media, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan sent an official letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin. In it, the head of the Turkish state officially apologized for the attack of the Turkish Air Force on the Russian Su-24 in November 2015. Moreover, Erdogan called Russia a friend and partner of Turkey, stressing that Ankara never had any intentions to specifically shoot down a Russian plane.




Recall that the Su-24 was shot down over the mountains on the Turkish-Syrian border by the Turkish Air Force F-16 fighter. Pilot Oleg Peshkov and navigator Konstantin Murakhtin ejected. But Konstantin Murakhtin managed to escape, and Oleg Peshkov was shot in the air by militants, the Turkomans. Later, his body was still given out to Russian representatives and transported to Russia, where the dead pilot was solemnly buried.

This incident, and most importantly, the then demonstrative reluctance of the Turkish authorities to apologize to the Russian side for the death of the aircraft and one of the pilots, was the main reason for the introduction of serious economic sanctions against Turkey by Russia. These sanctions have been a very significant blow to the Turkish economy. Firstly, organized recreation of Russian citizens at Turkish resorts was banned and charter flights were canceled, and after all, Russian tourists annually brought huge profits to the Turkish tourism business. The disappearance of Russian tourists from the Turkish resorts was immediately felt by Turkish businessmen. Many hotels began to be closed, businessmen could not even sell their hotels, and it became increasingly more expensive to maintain them. Secondly, for Turkish citizens, entry visas were introduced for visiting Russia. This also seriously hampered their situation, since previously a large number of Turkish citizens worked in Russia - primarily in the construction sector, and also engaged in business in our country. Finally, the importation from Turkey of a whole range of products, primarily fruits and vegetables, was banned.

Turkish products (more than 60% of products exported to the Russian Federation) fell under economic sanctions - tomatoes, onions, cauliflower, broccoli, cucumbers, gherkins, oranges, tangerines, grapes, apples, pears, apricots, peaches, plums, strawberries, strawberries. Later, bans were introduced on the import of Turkish pomegranates and peppers, eggplants, lettuce and iceberg lettuce, zucchini and pumpkins into Russia. Until recently, Turkey was one of the main suppliers of fruit and vegetable products to the Russian Federation (the share of Turkish vegetables in Russian imports was 34-50%), but the sanctions imposed contributed to the replacement of Turkish goods in the Russian market with products of other producers - both domestic and foreign . Sanctions on Turkish goods also hit Ankara hard, as Russia has long been a very important market. In turn, Turkey, despite the sanctions, continued to buy Russian wheat and sunflower oil. Over 50% of Russian exports of oil and oilseeds and 20% of Russian grain exports go to Turkey.

Russian President Vladimir Putin linked the abolition of economic sanctions and the general normalization of relations between Russia and Turkey with Ankara’s fulfillment of the main condition - a formal apology for the downed aircraft. During the past months, the Turkish leadership several times took steps to normalize relations with Russia, but they proved to be in vain - the Russian side insisted solely on the apologies of the Turkish leadership. In turn, Erdogan did not dare to apologize, since they could hit hard on his image as an uncompromising nationalist leader. Nevertheless, certain moments in Turkish politics already in the spring of 2016 indicated a possible normalization of relations.

Thus, the new Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim, who replaced Ahmet Davutoglu in this post, created a special working group to restore economic ties between Turkey and Russia. Then the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Turkey Mevlüt авavusoglu was invited to the Council of Ministers of Foreign Affairs of the countries participating in the Organization of the Black Sea Economic Cooperation (BSEC), which will take place on July 1 2016 in Sochi (Russian Federation). During the meeting, it is planned that Mevlüt авavuşoлуlu will meet with the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, Sergey Lavrov. This invitation shows that Russia is ready to begin a gradual normalization of economic relations with its southern neighbor. After the appearance of Erdogan's letter, he was commented on by the press secretaries of the Russian and Turkish presidents, Dmitry Peskov and Ibrahim Kalyn. Both representatives stressed the need for Russia and Turkey to return to the long-standing practice of good-neighborly relations and developed economic ties. Later, Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim on the TRT TV channel even reported that Ankara is ready to pay compensation to the Russian Federation for the Russian aircraft shot down by the Turkish Air Force. However, later information appeared that in fact Recep Erdogan did not apologize to Putin, but expressed regret over the incident, while he addressed his regret not to Putin, but to the family of the deceased pilot Oleg Peshkov. Reported the Turkish side and the refusal to pay compensation.

In fact, the normalization of Russian-Turkish relations is a forced step for both Russia and Turkey. The countries that for centuries were the most important opponents in the Black Sea and the Caucasus, there is no other way out - too strong, starting with the 1990-s, trade and economic ties between Moscow and Ankara were established. First of all, do not forget about the large objects that are being built in Turkey with the help of Russia. First, it is the Akkuyu nuclear power plant in the province of Mersin. The construction of the Akkuyu power plant was envisaged in accordance with an agreement signed six years ago - in 2010. It was planned to launch four power units of a nuclear power plant in Mersin province with a total installed capacity of 4,8 MW. Despite the deterioration of relations between Russia and Turkey, the construction of a nuclear power plant has not been canceled. Moreover, it was stated that the construction of the nuclear power plant would begin as early as 2018 - it was by that time that the Russian and Turkish sides should resolve the existing problems with construction permits.

"Sultan" apologizes or not? Prospects for the normalization of Russian-Turkish economic relations


The construction of the Akkuyu NPP is planned to be completed by 2026. The cost of the project is estimated by experts at 25 billion dollars. The construction of the Akkuyu nuclear power plant should be handled by the Russian company Atomstroyexport, a subsidiary of Rosatom. In the event of termination of the agreement on the construction of a nuclear power plant, Turkey will have to pay the Russian Federation an enormous amount as a penalty. We are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars, at a minimum. Naturally, the rejection of the construction of a nuclear power plant, widely advertised in Turkey, would not have a positive impact on the rating of the Turkish President and his government. However, on the issue of building a nuclear power plant, Turkish society “split up” - approximately equal parts of the Turks believe that nuclear power plants should not be built, as this creates a certain threat to environmental safety, and that nuclear power plants should be built, as this will have a positive impact on electricity prices. and will contribute to the development of the Turkish economy, first of all - industry.

The construction of the Akkuyu nuclear power plant is of great commercial interest for both Turkey and Russia. Naturally, Russian companies that are interested in construction, after cooling off relations with Turkey, should have been very puzzled by the prospects for construction, but, as it turned out, possible concerns about the future of the nuclear power plant were futile. Akkuyu Nukleer, a subsidiary of Rosatom, has a 49% stake in the Turkish nuclear power plant under construction. In April, 2016 Mr. Recep Erdogan said that Turkey will not abandon the construction of a nuclear power plant, despite pressure from the EU countries. And this is understandable - as expected, the construction of a nuclear power plant will allow Turkey to become energy-independent from external supplies within seven years.

Equally important for Russia and Turkey is cooperation in the field of gas supplies. Turkey is the largest consumer of Russian gas after Germany. Of course, the loss of Turkey as a sales market would have brought enormous losses to Gazprom, which would inevitably have an impact on the overall socio-economic situation in the Russian Federation. In addition, one should not forget about Gazprom’s large-scale investments in the construction of the Southern Corridor gas pipeline system, for which the Russian corporation has already spent 18 billion rubles. We are talking about the construction of pipelines and pumping stations in Russia, including the Russkaya pumping station in Anapa. As soon as Recep Erdogan addressed Putin with a penitential letter, representatives of Gazprom informed the press that they were ready to resume talks with Ankara on the Turkish stream. That is, the Russian gas giant is not going to lose in the face of Turkey a huge market for the sale of Russian gas and is ready to continue to invest gas pipeline projects in Turkey.

Recall that the "Turkish Stream" is an international gas pipeline project that was planned to be laid along the bottom of the Black Sea from Anapa region to Turkey. It was planned that the gas pipeline will be laid through the territory of Turkey, and a gas hub will be built on the Turkish-Greek border, which will allow directing gas to European countries. Presumably, the capacity of the Turkish Stream could be up to 32 billion cubic meters of gas per year. Russia acquired from the construction of the Turkish Stream an obvious benefit in the form of diversifying Russian natural gas supplies to European countries and reducing dependence on both Russia as an exporter of gas and European countries-buyers from such an unreliable gas transit country as Ukraine.



Even 1 December 2014 of the year, Russian President Vladimir Putin, during a press conference in the Turkish capital Ankara, said that Russia was rejecting the previously planned construction of the South Stream, since the European Union takes a non-constructive position on this gas pipeline. The Turkish Stream was to come to replace the closed South Stream. Already in January, 2015, after the meeting between the head of Gazprom Alexei Miller and the Minister of Energy and Natural Resources of Turkey Taner Yildiz, a decision was made to determine the route of the Turkish Stream gas pipeline. In February, the 2015 of Miller and Yildiz flew around the area on which the gas pipeline was to be laid. 7 April in Budapest, Foreign Ministers of Greece, Serbia, Macedonia, Hungary and Turkey signed a declaration on energy cooperation, that is, a number of Eastern European countries expressed a desire to participate in the Turkish Stream gas pipeline project.

However, the destruction by the Turkish Air Force of the Russian Su-24 wiped out the agreements reached. 26 November 2015 Russia announced that, in connection with the attack on the Su-24, it is stopping work on a number of joint projects, including the construction of the Turkish Stream gas pipeline. 3 December 2015 of the Year Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak officially told the press that the Turkish Stream project has been suspended. At the same time, it is obvious that the cessation of work on the construction of the gas pipeline would have a negative impact on both the Russian and the Turkish economy. In addition, the rejection of the construction of the Turkish Stream created a politically difficult situation: without the implementation of this project, Russia cannot bypass Ukraine when transporting gas to the countries of Eastern and Central Europe. It is better to build relations with Turkey than to depend on an unstable Kiev regime. Therefore, as soon as after Erdogan’s letter to Putin there appeared hope for the normalization of Russian-Turkish relations, Gazprom’s representative Sergei Kupriyanov, according to TASS, hurried to emphasize that the corporation was always ready for a dialogue on the Turkish Stream, including present tense

In turn, the Turkish travel companies have already prepared for the resumption of the flow of tourists from Russia. After all, Turkey remained one of the most popular destinations for the next Russian citizens on vacation. Turkish businessmen working in the tourism industry claim that, if necessary, the entire tourism infrastructure will instantly restore the same intensity. The head of the department of culture and tourism of Antalya (the most popular Turkish resort), Ibrahim Ajar, said that the Turkish resort is ready to receive any number of tourists who can come from the Russian Federation until the end of the season.

It is clear that Erdogan’s apologize to Russia was forced by the most complicated political and economic situation in which Turkey found itself in the last year. Ankara has managed to ruin its relations with almost all its neighbors, ranging from EU countries and ending with the Russian Federation, with its short-sighted policies and frank demarches. Even the United States, the main partner and patron of Ankara, is gradually distancing itself from the support of the odious Turkish president, as they are increasingly cooperating with the Kurdish national movement in the Middle East. Ankara traditionally regards the Kurdish movement as the main threat to the territorial integrity and political stability of Turkey. Without consultations with Russia, it is becoming increasingly difficult for Turkey to participate in Middle Eastern politics, especially since Syria did not succeed in quickly overthrowing Assad, and the support of the Kurds by the United States has put Turkey in an extremely dangerous situation. But, as we see. from reports that Turkey is ready to pay compensation to Russia, then no, apologizes, then does not apologize - a serious struggle is taking place in the political elite of Turkey. Apparently, it is conducted between pragmatists who insist on the need to revive economic ties, and nationalists, for whom the issues of the political image and prestige of the country are more important than economic well-being.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 30 June 2016 06: 21
    +1
    It seems all the same, something will happen. Chubais: Salvage defeated evil. It is interesting to whom this applies in this situation? Or to both sides?
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 30 June 2016 11: 04
      +1
      First I suggest sending our football fans there (without families and at the expense of the state ..) Let stress be removed ...
  2. Uncle Murzik
    Uncle Murzik 30 June 2016 06: 34
    +21
    what difference does Erdogan apologize or not! Turks cannot be trusted, the whole history of Russo-Turkish relations speaks of this! soldier
    1. dog78
      dog78 30 June 2016 08: 54
      +2
      to the point 100%
    2. Runx135
      Runx135 30 June 2016 09: 55
      +3
      Definitely! This is just a continuation of Erdogan's game, he pursues only his own interests both when he shot down our bomber, and now when he "apologizes".
    3. Runx135
      Runx135 30 June 2016 09: 55
      +1
      Definitely! This is just a continuation of Erdogan's game, he pursues only his own interests both when he shot down our bomber, and now when he "apologizes".
  3. mamont5
    mamont5 30 June 2016 06: 38
    +5
    Quote: Uncle Murzik
    what difference does Erdogan apologize or not! Turks cannot be trusted, the whole history of Russo-Turkish relations speaks of this! soldier

    Exactly. And I think that it will be a long time before (if at all) trust between our peoples will be restored. I'm not talking about those who still went "on vacation" to Turkey, I argue all this with "low prices." And if something happened, they would raise a cry that they need to be urgently taken out and demanding the aircraft of the Ministry of Emergencies ...
  4. aba
    aba 30 June 2016 06: 42
    +11
    The Sultan did not apologize, and the traders bargained.
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 30 June 2016 08: 53
      +5
      Exactly, the article of such a Kremlin weather vane, in the style of approving s. Now many of them will come out. Although in fact, as with the recent history with Savchenko, I sculpted the image for six months as a fierce enemy and rolled it back in a day, without really receiving anything in return. There were no apologies, really, that the author cites in the middle of the article. This is especially touching with the support of the domestic producer - vegetables, construction and tourism. Now it means again let the Turks enter the market
      1. Alekseits
        Alekseits 30 June 2016 09: 55
        +3
        Well, in return, Savchenko got two of his citizens. Plus they got rid of hemorrhoids, plus they threw this hemorrhoids to the Ukrainian authorities, who clearly did not expect such a development of events and now they scratch their turnips, thinking what to do next.
  5. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 30 June 2016 06: 43
    0
    The Turks stood in a pose - stood on the edge of self-isolation from Russia and quarreled with Europe. Far from spitting on what the relations between the countries will be, Russia has an economic interest in more or less normal relations, (politics is secondary) the main thing is not to be rude, but they will begin to understand what it will pour out, tourism will not be the same, but it’s all the same will be.
    1. Tsoy
      Tsoy 30 June 2016 09: 09
      +3
      it’s one thing a politician and another downed plane and dead servicemen. It's one thing to call Erdogan an accomplice of terrorists and another to build relationships with this main terrorist. It’s like Bush Jr. would have tried to negotiate with bin Laden.
      As with Savchenko, the Russian media have fallen into the trap that they set themselves. In an attempt to demonize, they go far, and then when an amnesty or an apology for a quiet merge and pretend that nothing is happening. Agree stupid?
      1. cheap trick
        cheap trick 1 July 2016 14: 29
        0
        absolutely right!
  6. moskowit
    moskowit 30 June 2016 06: 47
    +4
    Business, only business ... When still Nekrasov wrote: "Who lives happily, freely in Russia? ...
    ... to the fat-bellied merchant ... "
  7. Kenneth
    Kenneth 30 June 2016 06: 50
    -3
    I actually have peace and friendship. But if they said apologies and compensation, then there should be apologies and compensation. Until the end of summer is still far. Kneeling on his knees.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 June 2016 06: 56
    +7
    as we see. from reports that Turkey is ready to pay compensation to Russia, then no, then apologizes, then does not apologize

    It turns out that Russia going to meet Turkey has a chance to once again be deceived (or even get another provocation). It is clear that sooner or later it was necessary to establish relations. But it seems to me that not with Erdogan.
    1. VICTOR-61
      VICTOR-61 30 June 2016 07: 35
      +4
      I agree with Erdogan, you can’t agree, he will again put a knife in the back — for my well-being, I agree, I’m disappointed and what patriotism can be — when the United Team at the helm they think the main thing is to get more money in their pocket and to win the elections, that's their task and the people they do not care - only new laws write, as it were, to squeeze money out of the people, but about salaries and pensions, they might index and maybe not. It’s easier for our billionaires to compensate for losses that were affected by sanctions than pensioners do
  9. Tsoy
    Tsoy 30 June 2016 07: 20
    +8
    With Turkey, everything turns out strange. One apology in the letter was enough to forget the spit on the state? Anyway. I am much more worried about the draft law Spring. So if it is accepted, then you know, comrades, it will be a complete alles. No warning will be added to criminal articles about impending attacks and armed insurrections, disorder and unrest. Long live denunciations. All news sites will be counted among the media, attempts to justify any terrorist act are also criminal. For international terrorism will be able to judge with 14 years. And for sweets, mobile operators and Internet providers will be required to store information about conversations and information sharing for up to six months. Snowden was swimming finely. Big Four Mts, Beeline, Megaphone, Tele2 has already promised an increase in tariffs in 3 times.

    The introduction of such control is not a reason for optimism.
    1. derik1970
      derik1970 1 July 2016 10: 06
      0
      What to say then. Now you can write only enthusiastic articles about the politics of our state, otherwise the prison ... Anecdote told me over the phone and in prison. No wonder the national guard was created. Wait a minute, those who should study all our comments on the site and draw the necessary conclusions, again, as if not in prison. We live happily ... You are right, Snowden aside nervously smokes ...
  10. Taygerus
    Taygerus 30 June 2016 07: 25
    +3
    some kind of twofold feeling, it seems like the economy is steering, but the sediment remains
  11. Igor39
    Igor39 30 June 2016 07: 27
    +1
    It’s better to talk with Bulgaria about the resumption of the South Stream, than to trust the Turks.
    1. Kenneth
      Kenneth 30 June 2016 09: 05
      +3
      And who is Bulgaria. We must talk about the southern stream with Merkel or with Obama.
  12. parusnik
    parusnik 30 June 2016 07: 36
    +1
    As for tourists to Turkey ... this year, I don’t know ... There are so many tourists in our town now .. how many there were not last year .. in our eyes is full of numbers from different regions .. Through our area, the road to the Crimea .. Who is in Crimea, who is left with us .. Erdogan is a rat who was cornered .. In general, there are methods against Kostya Saprykin .. Thanks, Ilya ..
    1. razmik72
      razmik72 30 June 2016 10: 41
      +1
      Quote: parusnik
      As for tourists to Turkey ... this year, I don’t know ... There are so many tourists in our town now .. how many there were not last year .. in our eyes is full of numbers from different regions .. Through our area, the road to the Crimea .. Who is in Crimea, who is left with us .. Erdogan is a rat who was cornered .. In general, there are methods against Kostya Saprykin .. Thanks, Ilya ..

      Who drove Erdogan into a corner and how, dear Napoleon, can you tell me personally, otherwise I don’t get it.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 30 June 2016 11: 30
        -4
        And the meaning .. You explain .. if you don’t get it ... yes and I don’t like to throw beads before .. razmik72
        1. razmik72
          razmik72 30 June 2016 12: 23
          +2
          Quote: parusnik
          And the meaning .. You explain .. if you don’t get it ... yes and I don’t like to throw beads before .. razmik72

          And you do not have an explanation for the course of the "party and government", you just stupidly approve of it. And a famous animal is, you, Napoleon, you should not be rude to a stranger just for an uncomfortable question.
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 30 June 2016 13: 52
            +2
            I have explanations ... Russia has its own interests .. Reconciliation was foreseen .. Especially after Erdogan was refused by Europe .. when the United States began to openly recognize the Kurds and provide them with support .. Erdogan was really pinned down ... If you remember, before the plane was shot down, Erdogan openly twisted his arms around the GDP, the gas agreement on the terms of Turkey, the Syrian question, the Turks also pressed on their own .. And as the plane was shot down, they received a grenade in response, in the form of sanctions .. tormented, tormented .. and apologies have gone .. and there’s no way to go .. But now, relations will add up on the terms of Russia .. And the last .. you don’t need to poke a stranger with his avatar .. Especially when you object and then there’s nothing ... And you do not start poking with an avatar today .. And why shouldn’t I approve the decision of MY Government? .. It's mine, how bad it wasn’t .. I don’t have to call me on Maidany .. I do NOT need ANOTHER government ... I don’t have the name of the animal you know in the text ..that you wanted to think of, you thought of..and now you’re kind of offended .. I threw, a couple of beads in front of you .. in the sense of explanations .. but I think they will not satisfy you .. For you are on your own wave ..
            1. derik1970
              derik1970 1 July 2016 10: 22
              0
              You say that there was an apology from Erdogan ... Unfortunately, you and I do not know Turkish well. Quote - "" Erdogan wrote in a letter to Putin "I say: don't judge strictly for our mistake" "I don't see something that someone is apologizing here. Only then the clever guys in the Kremlin misinterpreted everything because it was profitable for them. If interested, read here: http://mk-turkey.ru/blog/yashar/2016/06/27/erdogan-mektup-putin-kusura-bakma.htm
              l Do not believe this link, your right but fact is a fact. By the way, once again our government stupidly threw us. And frankly tired of all this hysteria about the cunning Putin and his super multi-door plan. Putin just works for the oligarchs, works honestly and responsibly. He does not have his own opinion and cannot be at all. Our country is under external control, money, laws are all under the control of the West. So to begin with, figure out where it is your state. In essence, there is nothing left of ours. Systematically before the people play a scene from a play about pseudo-independence, and the audience stupidly applauds, drooling ... hi
  13. Darth Revan
    Darth Revan 30 June 2016 07: 43
    +1
    [quote = mamont5] [quote = Uncle Murzik] I'm not talking about those who still went "on vacation" to Turkey, I argue all this with "low prices". And if something happened, they would raise a cry that they need to be urgently taken out and demanding the aircraft of the Ministry of Emergencies ... [/ quote]

    Let them get under their own power! wassat
  14. dojjdik
    dojjdik 30 June 2016 08: 45
    +1
    it’s better to beat the Turks in Syria, then it will be;
    1. Kenneth
      Kenneth 30 June 2016 09: 06
      +3
      Ready to volunteer?
  15. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 30 June 2016 09: 03
    -7
    We are outcasts in the European Union and the Turks are the same. Plus, we are neighbors and the economy is really strongly tied to each other. A third of household appliances are Turkish, but all kinds of rags. Their builders work with acceptable quality and there is no replacement for them yet. The fact that they do not like us, and we do not hinder business. Here we are, captive allies.
    1. razmik72
      razmik72 30 June 2016 10: 46
      +1
      Quote: vladimirvn
      We are outcasts in the European Union and the Turks are the same. Plus, we are neighbors and the economy is really strongly tied to each other. A third of household appliances are Turkish, but all kinds of rags. Their builders work with acceptable quality and there is no replacement for them yet. The fact that they do not like us, and we do not hinder business. Here we are, captive allies.

      Russians and Turks in the European Union are not outcasts, dear, you are not there at all, you do not enter the EU with the Turks. In order to be outcasts somewhere, you need to enter this union, but you must not be a desirable member of this society, and Russia and Turkey do not are members of the European Union.
  16. Khabarov
    Khabarov 30 June 2016 09: 38
    +3
    Now friends, then enemies, then friends again - "guys, such turns are not for my mare." And tomorrow Sakashvili or Poroshenko will send SMS and what, also shake their hands? We understand that the Turkish interests of oligarch friends cannot suffer for a long time - it is expensive, but if one does not respect oneself, then one should not demand this from others.
    1. derik1970
      derik1970 1 July 2016 10: 35
      0
      Do not go to a fortuneteller, and this may be how you write ... Yes, on Monday they will say that you need to love gays and what you think ... Yes, we will love, wherever we go. Everyone wants to eat and get paid, and Moscow is the first one in the line for love. And no one will go to partisans or to prison for the sake of truth. Every man will justify himself ... again, we have the National Guard now .. there is someone to make us love the country that is beneficial to the government with the oligarchs ... and all the talk and victory in 1945 and so on about national honor and pride will remain just chatter in the kitchen. The Mannerheim Monument was installed and everyone ate this event and are silent ...
  17. GOGY
    GOGY 30 June 2016 09: 40
    +7
    As long as the current anti-popular cosmopolitan "elite" is in power, we will build a nuclear power plant for a potential enemy (what, b ... nowhere else to build a nuclear power plant?), Lay gas pipelines to potential enemies across the territory of the same potential enemy! Are you not enough problems with transit in Ukraine? Need more ? And we have gas in every village, and Mr. Miller, or our poor old people fucking need no one in the country of victorious capitalism? Evil is not enough! I would write a lot more, but there are not enough normal words. The authorities are trying to keep the lid of the boiling cauldron, driving the protest of people inside (the new law has arrived in time!) And at the same time throws firewood into the furnace! What is it: stupidity or intent? They will wait ... angry
    1. Tsoy
      Tsoy 30 June 2016 09: 59
      +3
      Quote: GOGY
      Wait uzho ...


      I honestly do not understand what is happening. All recent actions show that the government is doing everything to outrage people. Instead of smoothing the corners miscalculations and stupid excuses. It feels like they are having an experience, and what else can you do with you and will you endure everything silently? Tightening screws, unpopular laws, corruption scandals. As if everyone were crazy on the eve of the elections.

      By the way, when the Spring Bill is adopted, such comments can be described as a call for a revolution and get a year of the colony. wassat You stay there! All the best!
      1. razmik72
        razmik72 30 June 2016 10: 51
        +3
        Quote: Choi
        Quote: GOGY
        Wait uzho ...


        I honestly do not understand what is happening. All recent actions show that the government is doing everything to outrage people. Instead of smoothing the corners miscalculations and stupid excuses. It feels like they are having an experience, and what else can you do with you and will you endure everything silently? Tightening screws, unpopular laws, corruption scandals. As if everyone were crazy on the eve of the elections.

        By the way, when the Spring Bill is adopted, such comments can be described as a call for a revolution and get a year of the colony. wassat You stay there! All the best!

        The Russian authorities are confident that the CEC, as with the unforgettable Mr. Churov, will draw the figures for those who voted for power that it needs, everywhere in the post-Soviet countries such outrage is happening, the authorities have finally broken away from the peoples and live in their own world, alien to the interests of the peoples.
        1. Khariton
          Khariton 30 June 2016 11: 08
          0
          Quote: razmik72
          Quote: Choi
          Quote: GOGY
          Wait uzho ...


          I honestly do not understand what is happening. All recent actions show that the government is doing everything to outrage people. Instead of smoothing the corners miscalculations and stupid excuses. It feels like they are having an experience, and what else can you do with you and will you endure everything silently? Tightening screws, unpopular laws, corruption scandals. As if everyone were crazy on the eve of the elections.

          By the way, when the Spring Bill is adopted, such comments can be described as a call for a revolution and get a year of the colony. wassat You stay there! All the best!

          The Russian authorities are confident that the CEC, as with the unforgettable Mr. Churov, will draw the figures for those who voted for power that it needs, everywhere in the post-Soviet countries such outrage is happening, the authorities have finally broken away from the peoples and live in their own world, alien to the interests of the peoples.

          Ramzik ​​do not be rude ...... Boatman you with one oar! bully
          1. razmik72
            razmik72 30 June 2016 11: 23
            +2
            What rudeness, Khariton, I just outlined the situation that has developed at the moment. In which of the countries of the former Union, the power that holds takes into account the opinion of its people.
            1. unsinkable
              unsinkable 30 June 2016 15: 16
              0
              Quote: razmik72
              the power holding takes into account the opinion of its people.

              My friend Razmik, the opinion of the people has never been taken into account in any state. Those in power want to know him only for political maneuvering. The state was, is and will be an instrument of violence. I cannot comprehend the correctness of the decision in relations with the pydrogan, because it was it’s a pidrogan. hi
      2. derik1970
        derik1970 1 July 2016 10: 43
        0
        100% The state itself, we are on our own.
    2. derik1970
      derik1970 1 July 2016 10: 40
      0
      How wrong you are, but they will not "wait" ... sorry, but the Kremlin understands well that no one will go to the forest to partisan, and who will go for those, the National Guard is already prepared ... There is no leading and guiding force in the country about which he wrote Lenin, there is no one to raise the people ... and the people are inert and want to live satisfyingly and in abundance, and they all hope for something ...
  18. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 30 June 2016 09: 55
    +1
    Migratory birds fly

    Mikhail Isakovsky

    Migratory birds fly
    In the autumn, they gave blue
    They fly to hot countries
    And I stay with you
    And I stay with you
    Native land forever!
    I don’t need the Turkish coast,
    And I do not need Africa.
    ..
    Migratory birds fly
    Look for the past summer.
    They fly to hot countries
    I don’t want to fly away
    And I stay with you
    My dear friend!
    I do not need someone else's sun,
    Another's land is not needed.
  19. Rostislav
    Rostislav 30 June 2016 10: 01
    +1
    What is the article about? A simple listing of known factors - who, when and what said? With the statement "sometimes they apologize, sometimes they don't."
    Truisms have an undoubted merit - one cannot argue with them.
  20. Khariton
    Khariton 30 June 2016 10: 28
    +4
    I still think the Ottomans will answer for everything ... Many of our guys died thanks to them! They are not fixable! Our "office plankton" Moscow will soon fly to rest with them ... So that they choke there chewing burgers and hotdocs from our dead soldiers ... (I figuratively ..) So that they are all there ... SCREAM!
  21. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 30 June 2016 10: 59
    +1
    "Dear", the question is not about formal membership, but about the place that they are trying to give us in this world. I'm talking about that.
    Quote: razmik72
    dear, you are not there at all, you do not enter the EU with the Turks
  22. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 30 June 2016 11: 31
    0
    I look the most excited about improving relations with the Turks, our Armenian allies. laughing
    1. razmik72
      razmik72 30 June 2016 12: 12
      +1
      Quote: vladimirvn
      I look the most excited about improving relations with the Turks, our Armenian allies. laughing

      I will be incredibly glad if the relations between Russians and Turks improves, otherwise analyst Hramchikhin already calculated the strength and capabilities of the Armenian Armed Forces in the light of a possible war between Russia and Turkey. I personally did not like the prospect of a war with Turkey, many Russians have a preconceived notion that all Armenians want a war with Turkey. Personally, I don’t want this and the prospect of turning my country into a battlefield doesn’t please me at all. Developing relations with a neighbor is necessary and necessary, but do not rush from one extreme to the other - Russia and its media represent the Turks as demons and demand that her allies also support Russia in its struggle with Turkey, then in one day they completely change the vector of their policy. Such shy moves from one extreme to the other extreme of Russia do not bring any special dissidents.
      After Turkey shot down a Russian plane, the Armenian general, who at that time was the chairman of the CSTO on a rotating basis, protested and condemned the actions of the Turkish Air Force on behalf of the entire organization. Thus, the authorities of Kazakhstan, Belarus and Kyrgyzstan disowned this statement, saying that no one had authorized Yerevan to make statements on their behalf. Simply put, Russia's "allies": Belarus, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan refused to support her in times of trouble, she was supported by Armenia and Tajikistan. And now, excuse me, my country remains in a stupid position, Armenia, because after Supporting the Russian position, it turned out to be in even worse relations with Turkey than it was before the conflict with the downing of a Russian plane. It turns out that Armenia worsened its already bad interstate relations and all for what? That Putin would overnight reconsider his policy towards Turkey and go to the world, and the ally was left a fool? It turns out that Kazakhstan and Belarus did the right thing that they did not support Russia in its difficult hour, otherwise they remained in an idiotic position, like Armenia. Such leaps will not add allies to Russia in the future, all sober-minded politicians were given a clear lesson in the form of remaining in fools of Armenia
  23. Evgenijus
    Evgenijus 30 June 2016 12: 18
    +2
    Regarding the topic of publication - on the topic of the day! You can "bug" the Turks for their bloodthirsty history, for the wars against Russia, Bulgaria and others. But in any case, peace with the Ottomans is beneficial for Russia, rather than war. "Erdogans" will go into history, into oblivion, and the Black Sea will always wash the shores of our countries (by the way, I am a citizen of the Russian Federation, but over the hill). Therefore, we must think not only about reimbursement for the downed bomber, for the death of our pilot, but also look further. Russia is not indifferent, whose ships are now in the waters of the Black Sea. The more we leave Turkey, the more there appears in this sea of ​​enemy power from across the ocean. Simple hard workers on Turkish greenhouse plantations are definitely against Erdogan. Like hotel workers, builders in the resort area. The conflict between Russia and Turkey added to the latter the poor, but also joined the ranks of terrorists. Remember today's Dagestan. Where did the terrorist bombers come from? Do you think these are ardent supporters of the Wahhabis? Yes, they cannot say words about the structure of the Koran, what is the first Sura and what is the last. It all comes down to the family economy. There are plenty of unemployed people in Dagestan, but how to feed families? How to build a house? Where can I get my wife? First of all, the unemployed are recruited, promising (and actually giving) money for the terrorist attacks. So it is in Turkey. Ordinary Turks are normal guys, friendly and hard-working. I say this - I talked a lot with them. It was even believed that they were better than the Arabs in Egypt. About Palestine, so generally keep quiet.
    Therefore, the conclusion is that it is better to be friends with the Turks, but on equal terms in state relations. You have to pay for everything. For the downed bomber, for the death of our military.
  24. viktor.
    viktor. 30 June 2016 13: 03
    +3
    push and push again. how can you forgive such an act? bring down the plane and shoot everything on video. obviously everything is organized in advance. Sultan eats from one bowl with ISIS!
  25. maxim1987
    maxim1987 30 June 2016 14: 56
    0
    The Su-24 was shot down over the mountains on the Turkish-Syrian border by the Turkish Air Force F-16 fighter under the control of Alparslan Chelik.

    Celik is a ... who shot parachute pilots. just to embed the article negative
  26. unsinkable
    unsinkable 30 June 2016 15: 38
    -1
    I don’t see anything unexpected in Putin’s decision to move closer to Turkey. It has long been said that relations will be reconsidered after an apology. Everything goes on as expected. Of course, hot guys would like to chop them into cabbage (and to me, to be honest). But if cool the head, then the correctness of the decision becomes clear. The world, whatever it is, it is the world in Africa. Yes, I’m sure that we don’t know much. (For example, the full text of the letter).
  27. saltickov.
    saltickov. 30 June 2016 15: 38
    -1
    Quote: avg-mgn
    The Turks stood in a pose - stood on the edge of self-isolation from Russia and quarreled with Europe. Far from spitting on what the relations between the countries will be, Russia has an economic interest in more or less normal relations, (politics is secondary) the main thing is not to be rude, but they will begin to understand what it will pour out, tourism will not be the same, but it’s all the same will be.

    You have the sweetest of your selfish interests by chance in Turkey, well, there’s some kind of candle factory, and of course let them shoot in the back and not be rude of course. We are still surprised that they treat us inappropriately.
  28. Приговор
    Приговор 1 July 2016 00: 09
    0
    What is there to say? The sultan got off with tomatoes. And Oleg became the subject of bargaining. One obscene language comes into my head, so I won’t say anything more.
  29. sergo42
    sergo42 1 July 2016 02: 48
    +1
    Again, the traders agreed behind the back of the people. And how much squealing was - we will not forget, we will not forgive ...
    Lovers of gouging in the country of pungent pools and burning logs - rejoice at the ban. No terrorist attacks will stop our lovers of freebies. I was just glad that evergreen Turkish tomatoes and tasteless apples disappeared from the shelves and something normal began to be imported ....