The Kalashnikov Concern is working on the RPK-400 machine gun

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Armed conflicts and numerous anti-terrorist operations of recent years have vividly proved the need for a light machine gun, which could be an addition to a single machine gun, and, if necessary, replace a heavy assault or sniper rifle. During the visit of Yuri Borisov, Russia's deputy defense minister, to defense companies in the Far East, the Urals and the Volga region, including the production sites of the Kalashnikov concern in Izhevsk, the media got pictures of a new Izhevsk light machine gun, known as the RPK-400. It is reported that the Kalashnikov light machine gun of the four hundredth series was developed in accordance with the requirements of the competition of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia under the code code "Tokar-2". The machine gun is being developed in the interests of Rosgvardia, as well as various special purpose units, including the Security Service of the President and the Center for Special Purpose FSB of Russia.

The idea of ​​developing a light machine gun for an intermediate (automatic) cartridge is quite old. We can say that it originates from the 1943 of the year, when the cartridge of the 43 model of the 7,62x39 caliber mm appeared in the USSR. The winner of the competition held back in the war years was the machine gun of the Degtyarev design, which received the designation RD-44. In 1948 year after conducting tests in the troops and the necessary modifications weapon It was adopted by the Soviet Army under the designation 7,62-mm Degtyarev light machine gun or simply RPD. Automation and locking unit of this manual machine gun were borrowed from the machine gun Degtyarev (DP), and the mechanism of tape feed - from the famous German machine gun MG-42. The RPD was a successful, reliable and relatively light (7,4 kg) sample of small arms with a large ammunition - the ribbon box attached to the bottom of the machine gun contained 100 cartridges.

Soon enough, already in 1953, GAU decided to unify the machine gun and light machine gun, the result of this decision in 6 years was the adoption by the Soviet Army of a new Kalashnikov light machine gun, or PKK, which was unified with AKM. This work was carried out at the plant number XXUMX (as at that time was called “Izhmash”) by the designer group M. T. Kalashnikov with the lead designer V. V. Krupin. Beginning with the 74-ies, in the units of the motorized rifle, airborne troops and marine infantry, the RPD began to be replaced by the PKK. At the same time, the withdrawn from them light machine guns were sent to developing countries or transferred to warehousing.



Unlike the Degtyarev light machine gun, the Kalashnikov light machine gun had store supply (a box magazine for 40 cartridges and a drum magazine for 75 cartridges were used), and the butt for the machine gun was taken from the Degtyarev product. In the future, with the modernization of the Kalashnikov assault rifle in the Soviet Union, the modernization of the same-name light machine gun was carried out. For example, when switching to the low-pulse cartridge 5,45x39 mm and adopting the AK-74 machine gun, the RPK-74 light machine gun was also created, and with the adoption of the AK-74M - RPK-74M. The last light machine gun, like the Kalashnikov “hundredth series”, was actively offered for export, including in the version for the NATO cartridge 5,56х45 mm (RPK-201), and in the version for the cartridge 7,62х39 mm (RPK-203).

It should be noted that as early as the middle of the 1970-s, under the Poplin theme in the Soviet Union, R & D was conducted in order to find a replacement for the PKK; The Soviet analogue of the famous Belgian FN Minimi, which received the designation PU-21 and was created by the design team of A.I. Nesterov, Yu.K. Aleksandrova, V.M. Kalashnikov (son of Mikhail Timofeevich Kalashnikov) and M.E. Dragunov, quite successfully passed the tests, but because of the “little things” - the lack of a reliable machine for equipping the tapes with cartridges of caliber 5,45x39 mm at that time - the project did not continue.

At NATO, the need for a similar machine gun was realized at about the same time when moving from a heavy 7,62-mm cartridge to a new 5,56-mm cartridge, which very quickly became the standard rifle cartridge of most countries of the military-political bloc (as well as many other states). The transition to the new cartridge provided the need for a new light machine gun under it. So the Belgian company FN began work on its development. The FN Minimi light machine gun, first shown in 1974, quickly gained popularity.



The transition to a new patron was due to the experience that was obtained during large-scale wars and local conflicts that were fought by the US and its Western allies in the 1960s in Southeast Asia, Africa, Latin America and the Middle East. This experience demonstrated the complete unsuitability of automatic rifles, designed for the NATO cartridge 7,62-mm, due to the large dispersion, especially when firing in continuous bursts. The increase in the accuracy of combat of existing at that time automatic rifles was associated with the transition of small arms to a smaller caliber 5,56 mm. Such a transition, in turn, gave significant advantages over small-caliber 7,62 mm weapons both in combat and maneuverability (a long direct shot range was maintained with a reduced recoil force) and in economic indicators. The positive results of the combat use of the new 5,56-mm M16 rifle during the Vietnam War allowed it to be adopted by the American army, which was also the impetus for the development of such weapons, designed for a low-pulse cartridge, in other countries, including Belgium.

In Russia, the idea of ​​creating a light machine gun with a combined supply of ammunition returned at the end of 2015, when the Interior Ministry announced an open competition for the development of such small arms under the code "Turner-2". According to the announced tender in 2017, prototypes of new machine guns for state tests should be prepared, as well as technical documentation for serial production of a light machine gun. It is planned to spend 25,56 million rubles for these purposes. According to the terms of reference, the Kord-5,45 manual assault machine gun (index PR-5,45), having a combined power supply, must have short and long barrels, use the 5,45x39 cartridge, mm, weigh no more than 7 kilograms, have a length of no more than 900 mm and the firing rate level 800-900 shots per minute. Power machine gun - stores capacity 60 cartridges or box with a tape, designed for 100 / 250 cartridges. The new light assault machine gun is designed primarily to support assault groups during operations in the city or in enclosed spaces.

The main difference between perspective small arms and existing models is that the light assault machine gun is perfect for firing in urban environments, both on the streets and in small-sized and volume premises, allowing the shooter to create a greater density of fire. At the same time, the probability of “unpredictable results” of firing is minimized, that is, random defeats caused by the breaking of walls or ricochets from them. This can be achieved through the use of cartridges of lesser power than the single Russian 7,62-mm machine gun PKP "Pecheneg". Another important difference between the Korda-5,45 and the light machine guns that are in service, making it as much as possible adapted for conducting dynamic combat in confined spaces, are smaller dimensions and weight, as well as greater maneuverability of the weapon.



Despite the fact that the name “Kord” obviously indicates a potential contractor - the Kovrov plant named after Degtyarev (ZID), the Kalashnikov concern, on its own initiative, carried out design work on a similar development, albeit with traditional store food. The first information about the new Izhevsk light machine gun, originally designated as RPK-16, appeared in the media in November last year. And after in May 2016 was introduced new machine AK-400, sources from the Russian military industrial complex during the Eurosatory 2016 exhibition told that on the basis of this machine gun a light RPK-400 light machine gun would also be developed, which should take part in the competition announced in the country under the Turner-2 program. Thus, the Kalashnikov concern today is developing a whole unified system of small arms, continuing the old traditions since the appearance of AKM / PKK.

It is not yet known whether the fire is fired from the new RPK-400 light machine gun from an open bolt or from a closed one, Magnum magazine writes. Judging by the published photographs of the novelty, the machine gun uses gas automatic equipment. The machine gun is designed for the use of low-pulse cartridges 5,45 × 39 mm. Locking the barrel, most likely, by turning the bolt, as in the RPK-74 light machine gun and the single PKM machine gun. At the same time, there is no information on whether RPK-400 has the ability to quickly change the trunk. The gas outlet piston unit is located under the barrel of the weapon, as is the PKM. The new machine gun is distinguished by the presence of a handle for carrying. Under the barrel of a light machine gun mounted removable folding telescopic bipod. The butt of the machine gun was made folding, telescopic. The muzzle brake compensator is identical to that of the new Izhevsk AK-400 “four-hundred series” automatic machine. The polymer handguard of the RPK-400 light machine gun has Picatinny trims designed for attaching a variety of additional accessories, which include a front handle, a laser pointer or a tactical flashlight.

For all obvious reasons, the design process has not yet disclosed detailed technical details regarding the RPK-400 light machine gun, but something has already become known to journalists. In particular, the specialized online edition all4shooters.com writes that the machine gun will be equipped with a free-suspended barrel (the mount of the bipods and the base of the front sight were transferred to the gas chamber), which in combination with the machine gun’s single-fire mode and the ability to install various optical sights on Picatinny rail allows you to use the light RPK-400 light machine gun at short distances and as a sniper rifle. Like the AK-400, the butt was made telescopic, it folds freely and adjusts in length.



To supply the new machine gun was used drum magazine, designed for 95 cartridges, previously such a store has already been used with the AK-12 machine gun. Due to the abandonment of the tape power system, the RPK-400 machine gun should be significantly lighter than the technical task (the new manual machine gun is reported to only slightly exceed the basic AK-400 machine gun), which makes firing from the hands much more convenient. The scope of the Izhevsk design is as follows: a “heavy” assault rifle with bipods and a massive barrel, an analogue of a sniper rifle (under certain conditions), addition or replacement to a single machine gun for a rifle cartridge when conducting combat operations in a city or in limited space conditions, as well as in the implementation of foot patrols.

Information sources:
https://www.all4shooters.com/ru/strelba/ruzhya/Kontsern-Kalashnikov-RPK-400-novyy-ruchnoy-pulemet/
http://mgewehr42.livejournal.com/2198.html
http://svpressa.ru/war21/article/149231
http://bratishka.ru/archiv/2006/1/2006_1_11.php
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  1. +31
    29 June 2016 05: 54
    Of course, I am a simple sergeant, and may the generals forgive me, but this is not a machine gun. This is an AK assault rifle with a more powerful barrel.
    1. +17
      29 June 2016 06: 28
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      Of course, I am a simple sergeant, and may the generals forgive me, but this is not a machine gun. This is an AK assault rifle with a more powerful barrel.

      Amerskiy Minimi - is the M-16 also with a more powerful barrel?)))
      1. +4
        29 June 2016 06: 33
        Quote: almost demob
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Of course, I am a simple sergeant, and may the generals forgive me, but this is not a machine gun. This is an AK assault rifle with a more powerful barrel.

        Amerskiy Minimi - is the M-16 also with a more powerful barrel?)))

        I believe that a machine gun is required to have tape power, but in general who is used to anything. But the tape for separation / platoon at 5.45 is not a problem to do.
        1. +47
          29 June 2016 07: 19
          In this case, deeply equally - tape or store food. With an 95 drum capacity of cartridges and approximately the same dimensions, a magazine-fed machine gun will be simpler in design and lighter in weight, as well as more technological in manufacturing. Recharging in combat conditions will also be easier with store food. And at least the equipment, although the store of such a volume will take quite a lot of time, so there’s parity in it.
          Well and still - in which case it will be possible to install any store from a machine gun of the same caliber on a machine gun with a store-fed machine gun, with a tape machine gun such a focus definitely will not work.
          1. +3
            29 June 2016 08: 09
            Quote: inkass_98
            With a drum capacity of 95 rounds and approximately the same dimensions, a magazine-fed machine gun will be simpler in design and lighter in weight, as well as more technological in manufacturing.

            Do not be confused, shops are one thing, a drum is another.

            There is no advantage of a drum over tape power.
            1. +5
              29 June 2016 08: 49
              There is no advantage of a tape supply over a store one. Tape feeding is good for remotely controlled weapons, where all ammunition can and should be put in one tape. The fighter needs to change ammunition during the battle.
              1. +7
                29 June 2016 09: 02
                Quote: Felix99
                There is no advantage of a tape supply over a store one.

                Not a fact.
                There are benefits. For example, stores must be re-equipped without fail. With weight, too, not everything is clear: the more BC, the less advantages the stores have.
                1. +8
                  29 June 2016 10: 06
                  Quote: Spade
                  Stores must be re-equipped without fail.

                  What for? With an unloaded spring, these are just ammunition storage containers. The spring can be charged before use. Also, the drum in a combat situation completely protects the cartridges from dirt, to which small calibers are sensitive.
                  1. 0
                    29 June 2016 19: 05
                    Cartridges with tape should be in the attached box and the problem of their pollution disappears.
                2. 0
                  19 August 2022 09: 39
                  the more bookmakers, the less advantages the stores have

                  weight of an empty tape for 100 rounds with a box - 1,3 kg
                  drum weight is the same
            2. 0
              2 July 2016 19: 43
              Quote: Spade
              Do not be confused, shops are one thing, a drum is another.

              both stores, one box-type, o or disk type
          2. +4
            29 June 2016 19: 03
            The machine gun must fire from an open shutter. Those. the cartridge should be fed into the chamber immediately before firing. This is necessary to exclude self-ignition of the powder charge when the cartridge is in the incandescent chamber for a long time. Also, the machine gun must have a removable barrel or cooling system that allows continuous fire in automatic mode. Food should be made from loose tape. The Kalashnikov concern is trying to squeeze the impossible out of the old proven design created back in 47.
            1. 0
              19 August 2022 09: 44
              machine gun must have an interchangeable barrel

              there is a great desire to give a tambourine to the one who came up with changing barrels. I really want to see how all these smart people do it in combat conditions
          3. +2
            29 June 2016 19: 28
            Quote: inkass_98
            in which case, it will be possible to install any store from a machine gun of the same caliber on a machine gun with a store-fed machine gun, such a trick definitely will not work with a tape machine gun.

            Some machine guns are "omnivorous", it is mentioned in the article.
          4. +2
            29 June 2016 20: 12
            I don’t know what will happen to the new shell, but it’s much harder to fill the old one from the PKK than the tape.
        2. Arh
          +2
          29 June 2016 12: 46
          In general, you need to do it and I certainly think you need a ribbon!
      2. +1
        3 July 2016 15: 00
        Quote: almost demob
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Of course, I am a simple sergeant, and may the generals forgive me, but this is not a machine gun. This is an AK assault rifle with a more powerful barrel.

        Amerskiy Minimi - is the M-16 also with a more powerful barrel?)))

        Minimi is a Belgian, as it were.
        We really need a lightweight tape, but not necessarily 5,45. You can reanimate RPD, only make a normal tape.
    2. 0
      29 June 2016 07: 28
      Eh, 5,45 caliber is too small though. Life shows that already at the 2-3rd "store" long bursts of firing begins to "spit".
      What sort of accuracy is there ... In this regard, the idea in the article seemed strange that the transition to a small caliber is due to better accuracy of fire.

      The technology and quality of the materials of which the weapon barrel is made, due to accuracy. For the sake of cheaper weapons, we sacrifice quality.
      1. +11
        29 June 2016 08: 26
        Anyway, weird! The machine gun is designed for suppression! There must be a high rate of fire, balance of construction, a massive barrel with cooling and shooting with an open shutter! In the PKK, this is not! This is a submachine gun and under-machine gun! Isn’t it easier to throw strength on Turner than to rivet ersatz again? Or Kalashnikovskiy corporate lobby?
        Regarding Turner, I see an option in the caliber 9x39! It is simply necessary, especially for fights in a city where shooting distances are small and the targets are protected!
        1. +7
          29 June 2016 16: 49
          Quote: AlNikolaich
          The machine gun is designed for suppression! There must be a high rate of fire, balance of construction, a massive barrel with cooling and shooting with an open shutter!

          as well as a removable barrel, and a fire tempo controller.
          damn .... it turns Negev winked
          1. +1
            29 June 2016 19: 12
            Negev is an excellent machine gun. This should be the Turner under 5,45 mm.
        2. +4
          29 June 2016 19: 11
          Why use the 9X39 mm subsonic cartridge? Ammunition mass will be higher than when using standard machine gun ammunition 7,62x54 mm. The bullet path is too steep due to low speed, the cartridge power is insufficient.
      2. +7
        29 June 2016 08: 55
        Spit - from heating the barrel. On the PKK, a thick heavy barrel, on the Pecheneg non-replaceable barrel with ejector cooling, does not spit. This issue is being resolved.
        1. +6
          29 June 2016 13: 32
          Felix

          There are different concepts of machine guns.

          For example, a machine gun with the supply of ammunition and the willingness to fire with an open shutter and a closed one.

          What does this mean?

          With the shutter open, the firing rate is higher and the power may be tape. Accordingly, it is used for use in machine gun points. To what? Because the bolt does not send the cartridge into a closed, overheated barrel, where before the shot the cartridge can get deformed due to the temperature difference.

          The PKK shown above due to unification with the AK is ready for firing with the shutter closed. Therefore, the rate of fire should be limited to pauses. Therefore, different types of feed shops. But high mobility. And this machine gun support on the offensive. Those. make a machine-gun nest with him, not right.

          Nothing is universal. But in order to get an advantage, you need to understand how to use it correctly.
      3. 0
        29 June 2016 19: 08
        How is the 5,45 caliber worse than the American 5,56 mm? The weapon starts to spit due to the strong heating of the non-replaceable barrel. The machine must be allowed to cool, and in the machine gun it is enough to change the barrel to a new one.
        1. +1
          30 June 2016 00: 16
          No worse - the same caliber, simply measured in different ways: by the distance between the fields - 5,54 mm, by the distance between the rifling - 5,56 or something. Another thing is that in one caliber the ammunition is different in power: 5,54 × 39 mm and 5,56 × 45 mm. Again, which of these is worse or better is another matter, and ammunition is comparable in terms of effectiveness (less impulse - better accuracy).
      4. gcn
        0
        1 July 2016 16: 06
        I once wrote that after 74 two-three stores with a burst of two and five intense firing, it starts to spit, they also wrote that I didn’t shoot and didn’t hold it in my hands, although I wrote about the hundredth series as there. I completely agree with you on the trunk.
    3. avt
      +5
      29 June 2016 09: 06
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      but it’s not a machine gun. This is an AK assault rifle with a more powerful barrel.

      Yes, in general, yes. There was RPK-74 and now they’re cutting the trunk for running down the stairs, but they also want to
      analogue sniper rifle
      force to execute wassat
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      I believe that a machine gun is required to have tape power, but in general who is used to anything.

      laughing Moving around the house tied with machine-gun belts, you can’t fall asleep without them? Well, let’s get the case - the tape is a forced measure to deliver a cartridge and only makes the weight of the weapon heavier. If there is a painless constructive opportunity to refuse without deterioration, why not?
      1. +1
        29 June 2016 10: 14
        Quote: avt
        . But at the same time they also want
        analogue sniper rifle
        force to execute

        Why not? A heavy, well-made barrel. A full-fledged cartridge, not a machine-gun curve and an oblique ersatz 7,62. Shooting from the stop, with a closed shutter. Most of the requirements are met.
        1. avt
          +1
          29 June 2016 12: 42
          Quote: brn521
          . A full-fledged cartridge, not a machine-gun curve and an oblique ersatz 7,62.

          wassat What was it ? And in general - you are das, machine-gun curve "? Yes, and an oblique, besides ersatz 7,62? Here is a cartridge 7,62x39 and 5.45x39, for which, by the way, this machine gun is made, even in life I had to hold it in my hands completely itself 7, 62x54 well, welted "which and what is typical - not curves and not oblique.
          Quote: brn521
          . Most of the requirements are met.

          ,, Announce the entire list please "
          1. +1
            29 June 2016 18: 04
            Quote: avt
            And in general - are you is das, machine-gun curve "? Yes, and a scythe, besides, ersatz 7,62

            Cartridges 7,62x54, manufactured and supplied for machine guns. They do not require compliance with the level of quality, as for rifles. Therefore, scattering during firing with such cartridges will not allow for accurate shooting.
            Quote: avt
            Announce the entire list please

            You can still recall. The rigidity of the receiver and the design as a whole. Descent - there’s already someone like it, but the original machine gun is unlikely to work. Ergonomics is again certainly far from rifle. But it is unlikely that the shooter will need to beat a squirrel in the eye from 300 meters. In general, it is obvious to me that the aforementioned unit will be superior in accuracy to 5,45 assault rifles, as well as machine guns under 7,62x54. What you can use by shooting solo, instead of short bursts, knocking out bedridden and other hiding places. A full-fledged machine gun, on the contrary, requires dispersion in order to hit targets at medium and long distances. But the cops seem to be useless.
            As an illustration, the reference barrel in the design bureau for working off and shooting cartridges 5,45 is RPK74, fixed in the machine.
      2. 0
        29 June 2016 13: 20
        Quote: avt
        If there is a painless constructive opportunity to refuse without deterioration, why not?
        and she is?
      3. +7
        29 June 2016 17: 13
        Quote: avt

        laughing Moving around the house tied with machine-gun belts, you can’t fall asleep without them? Well, let’s get the case - the tape is a forced measure to deliver a cartridge and only makes the weight of the weapon heavier. If there is a painless constructive opportunity to refuse without deterioration, why not?

        Well type. good I was urgent, and then 15 years as a reservist with MAG left. And nothing alive. But it's hard for a squad / platoon. And the Negev joined the cadre and infantry reservist units when I was finishing my service. As always, the "Engineers" were rearmed last.
    4. +1
      29 June 2016 09: 24
      A multifunctional specialist appeared on the network. Did you develop light machine guns or TTZ on them?
    5. +3
      29 June 2016 19: 26
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Of course, I am a simple sergeant, and may the generals forgive me, but this is not a machine gun. This is an AK assault rifle with a more powerful barrel.


      More than agree with you.
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      The machine gun is obliged to give a high density of fire already from a distance of 800 meters. Better even with 1000 m.
      And RPK 74 is an uncomfortable machine overgrowth, even inferior to AK 74 in combat effectiveness.
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      Shooting PKK 74 is a torment. For some reason, the spread of hits in the PKK is much worse than that of the AK.
      Yes, and applying it to distances greater than 500 m is inefficient.
      It would be better to remove it from service altogether! And give in each compartment for a PC machine gun.
      Now PC is a thing! Pounding a bunch. It hits hard. It hits far, at 800 meters from a normal machine gunner, almost a bullet to a bullet .. if necessary. Cans of 200 cartridges, and do not strain that the horn will end.
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      And on the other hand .. if the truth is they make a convenient and effective handbrake for the 5,45 caliber, it will be very good.
      The main thing is that the gunsmiths ask the soldiers (well, the lieutenants). I mean - what are the claims? What is required?
      1. +1
        30 June 2016 22: 08
        Nobody cancels Pkm and Pecheneg, they have their own niche, and the storming of the building with RMB makes me tender, take a minigun in the style of a famous governor ...

        Does the difference in weight tell you nothing? The PKK was a support weapon, fairly light and compact, long bursts from the thigh to a half-drum should not be fired from, and its effective range will be greater than that of the seventy-fourth.

        About a bullet to a bullet from a PC at 800m it’s not even tales, it’s a blatant lie, or an incredible combination of circumstances, the dispersion there is quite sickly, he thought so ...
        1. +1
          1 July 2016 21: 47
          Quote: TiRex
          Does the difference in weight tell you nothing? PKK was a support weapon, quite light and compact, for


          I don’t know - to cry or laugh. Probably .. still cry. sad
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          You will live for months in a helmet (without taking off day or night). Wrap tens of thousands of kilometers with weapons and other ammunition. Release half a ton of ammunition from all types of weapons (and from the PKN 74 too). In all sorts of different situations. find out really .. on myself - what for what and how much it weighs.
          And then you can give your recommendations.
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          I repeat. And deeply convinced. RPK 74 is an inconvenient and inefficient automatic overgrowth. And weighs more. And the bipod clings to everything that is possible. And thunder on the helmet. Unmask. And the manufacture is longer than with a gun. And it’s not the 74 RPK machine gun, because it bounces with every shot no worse than an assault rifle.
          But the machine can at least be compensated by body movements.
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          Easy, speak?
          Yes AK 74 with the same horn on 45 is a hundred times more convenient .. and more precisely.
          To storm the buildings? PKK to storm buildings? ..
          I want to cry ... if such D ... s decide what to arm us with. sad
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          PC has a piston bottom. An experienced machine gunner doesn’t jump at all when shooting while lying down. And the long line at 800 meters does not leave the circle of meter diameter. In classrooms - from a half-meter.
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          And I’ll repeat it. - CANCER 74 must be removed from service.
          If you develop a really good machine gun on 5,45 ..- It will be fine.
          And the PKK 74 is an unimportant weapon. It has long been necessary to change.
    6. 0
      23 September 2016 12: 30
      and the rpk-74 is not the same ak-74, only the barrel is longer and stores 40 rounds of ammunition, these are weapons of the squad and not the company the difference is both standard and technical
    7. 0
      19 August 2022 10: 07
      Of course, I'm a simple sergeant,

      Comrade Sergeant, RPK is a squad machine gun that can fire beyond AK range, and at a distance of up to 300 meters can replace SVD.
  2. +2
    29 June 2016 06: 25
    Very attractive designs. And the AK-400 itself and its derivatives.
  3. +2
    29 June 2016 06: 36
    The firepower of the foot units will definitely increase. Given the new mini Bumblebee, are we being prepared for street fighting?
    1. -1
      29 June 2016 07: 27
      Everything is correct in an open area, there is little chance of surviving (tos, hail, tornadoes) as an example, and suburban areas have already begun to occupy cities.
  4. +9
    29 June 2016 07: 14
    Quote: surozh
    Given the new mini Bumblebee, are we being prepared for street fighting?

    We are preparing for defense in the outbreak of World War 3. And you may have to defend yourself against your own representatives of the 5th column, and believe me, there are a lot of them. Stalin did the right thing to rot them in the Gulag, otherwise they would have completely destroyed the country even then.
  5. -4
    29 June 2016 07: 59
    http://warfiles.ru/show-121979-tavor-luchshiy-avtomat-xxi-veka.html
    1. +3
      29 June 2016 08: 15
      Quote: fider
      http://warfiles.ru/show-121979-tavor-luchshiy-avtomat-xxi-veka.html

      This is of course a noble machine, but controversial! Modularity is certainly good, but the bulpap ... in short, for an amateur, with his balance, weight distribution. I am dear to the classic, and many will support!
      1. +2
        29 June 2016 17: 11
        Quote: AlNikolaich
        I am dear to a classic, and many will support!

        A couple of years ago, at his very last training camp, he went to bat, to the young reservists from Givati. They went urgently with the Tavors, and then they were given the Arches (now the truth is already given to the Tavors at the training camps), how many perfect mats I heard from them then, especially when recharging, and you say a classic! For them, Bullpap is already a classic.
    2. +5
      29 June 2016 10: 47
      Quote: fider
      //warfiles.ru/show-121979-tavor-luchshiy-avtomat-xxi-veka.html

      We will wait until the 21st century ends.
  6. +2
    29 June 2016 08: 21
    In all the photos, the gas vent mechanism is on top of the barrel and bipod mounted on top, and in the text it says, everything is from below!
    It’s more likely not a machine gun, but an Kalashnikov assault machine!
  7. +12
    29 June 2016 08: 24
    experience has shown the complete unsuitability of automatic rifles, designed for the NATO 7,62-mm cartridge, due to the large dispersion, especially when firing in continuous bursts ...

    It was not specified here that it was a NATO 7,62x51 cartridge, that is, a rifle cartridge. Of course, he has a better dispersion with a small weight of weapons. They would have made a caliber of 3,5x45, for example, if there was a watering, in general, at least draw patterns.
    An article is a compilation of previously published materials, nothing new. But one moment is omitted. Before Turner-2 was Turner-1. Somewhere about 15 lyamas were mastered, and at the exit a zilch that did not fit the army. Why? Did you do double bass or nano-crap? Why suddenly a failure and who will be responsible for the spent loot?
    Now over 25 lyamas are at stake. But will there be any sense and who will answer if there is no sense?
    Interchangeable trunks of different lengths, combined power, high accuracy and accuracy with a weight of 7 kg - this is something incomprehensible. If RPK-74 weighs less, and RMB a little more.
    The AK-400 in the first version is designed for a cartridge of 7,62x39, now the RPK-400 is prepared only at 5,45, although it is clear that a larger caliber is preferable at a combat distance of up to 300 meters. And the accuracy is ensured by the design, as can be seen on the AK-400 video.
    What besides the price did not arrange the AK-12 and the machine gun based on it? Accuracy is precisely within the assignment.
    Well, in the end, the absurdity with the length of the weapon. "Smaller than AK-12" is 942 mm. And what is the length of the same AK-74M? Two meters or something? Why is he less then?
    When articles about weapons are prepared by complete amateurs, such misunderstandings cause a lot of questions.
    1. avt
      0
      29 June 2016 18: 31
      Quote: erased
      The AK-400 in the first version is designed for a cartridge of 7,62x39, now the RPK-400 is prepared only at 5,45, although it is clear that a larger caliber is preferable at a combat distance of up to 300 meters.

      What actually was ordered by specialists back in the USSR in the form of 9x39, well, SP-6 is the same SP-5
      Quote: kontrobas
      , that for the "city" machine gun is the most.

      rather than
      Quote: kontrobas
      the cartridge supplied to the troops is 7,62 * 39, well, a subsonic cartridge, especially in confined spaces, is much preferable

      Actually, they made a line of weapons for him from machine guns and sniper ones, BUT without an assault machine gun. But with a 12x55 bulka, and even with a three-shot grenade launcher and a glushak!
      Quote: kontrobas
      It is bad that the development of small arms is now in fashion and the laws of the market, and not in the development of manufacturability, reliability and efficiency.

      request Well, yes - something like that .... Alas!
      1. 0
        30 June 2016 22: 20
        compare prices, the line infantry is expensive to equip them massively.
  8. +2
    29 June 2016 09: 14
    Historically, machine guns, as you know, developed in two directions: originally created as a machine gun and "weighted" versions of assault rifles (assault rifles). In my opinion, the former will always be slightly better.
    1. +2
      29 June 2016 19: 22
      The first as a machine gun is definitely better
  9. +7
    29 June 2016 10: 35
    Tape power on a light machine gun hemorrhoids and delirium, it is usually advocated by those who have no idea what tape equipment is, its amortization during use and the interchangeability of ammunition on the battlefield. The high-tech drum magazine, which normally works under any conditions, is 95% more convenient and solves all the same tasks as the standard 100-round carton box for a PC.

    Also, a light machine gun of the same small caliber as a machine gun is not the best solution. There is an excellent cartridge 7,62 * 39, which is still in service and supplied to the troops. It certainly has more weight and worse flatness, but its penetration and stopping effect are an order of magnitude higher than 5,45 * 39, which is just that for a "city" machine gun.

    A folding stock on a light machine gun is also a very controversial decision, and even more so its "telescopicity". It is bad that the development of small arms is now proceeding according to fashion and the laws of the market, and not according to the development of manufacturability, reliability and efficiency.
    1. -2
      29 June 2016 19: 26
      7,62X39 mm is hopelessly out of date. In terms of penetration, the new 5,45 mm cartridges are significantly superior to the old cartridges. For the army and the police, a machine gun is required under a low-pulse cartridge of caliber 5,45 mm with tape power modeled on the model of Minimi / Negev / MG-4.
    2. +1
      29 June 2016 19: 46
      Quote: kontrobas
      who has no idea what tape equipment is

      At MG-3 there were loose tapes in plastic boxes, the tapes were never engaged in equipment. Although there were such tapes and a machine.
      Quote: kontrobas
      A folding stock on a light machine gun is also a very controversial decision, and even more so its "telescopicity".

      Such a butt is certainly not for a machine gun, usually it is still pressed with his left hand to his shoulder. Such a grip as in the photo is clearly not convenient.
      1. +1
        29 June 2016 22: 09
        Quote: Denimax
        tape equipment has never been engaged.

        The tape comes equipped from the factory.
        Quote: Denimax
        Such a butt is certainly not for a machine gun, usually it is still pressed with his left hand to his shoulder.

        "city" machine gun, simply must have a folding or telescopic butt:
        1) in the conveyor there is always an advantage to more compact, space-saving equipment.
        2) in Lashaba (in the Battle in the city building) cleaning, the changeable length of the tool not only makes the machine gun more practical and comfortable, but it also improves the skill of life very cool.
        1. 0
          29 June 2016 23: 18
          Quote: MACCABI-TLV
          The tape comes equipped from the factory.

          Exactly! You can add about the advantage of bulk tape.
          First off, she doesn't hang out. Secondly, the cartridges are denser on it, and this is a saving in the weight and dimensions of the ammunition. And I also think that the feed mechanism works more smoothly, without jerking, and this affects the accuracy and rate of fire. Maybe not significantly. IMHO

          Quote: MACCABI-TLV
          "city" machine gun, simply must have a folding or telescopic butt:

          I meant the shape of the butt. If the weapon shoots from the bipod from a prone position, then the butt is pressed against the shoulder with a free hand. Such an application improves firing accuracy.
  10. 0
    29 June 2016 10: 50
    what's this??? rebirth of the PKK? or a fundamentally new model ???
    It’s more like trying to grab a piece of the budget by giving out old tuning designs for new ones.

    If we are talking about a light assault machine gun, then this should be a fundamentally new weapon for belt power, because the drum is unreliable.
  11. +2
    29 June 2016 11: 00
    I love to read memoirs. and so, in the memoirs of Soviet special forces soldiers who fought in Afghanistan and had the opportunity to choose weapons for a specific task, I came across the following opinion: the PKK was practically not in demand, if a machine gun was needed - they took a PC, if it was easier, they took Kalash, but the store from RPK - rulez.
    what’s interesting about shops, in the infantry it seemed like they thought that the drum was inconvenient and unreliable, but special forces on private photos often hold machine guns with a drum magazine in their hands. how so why are Americans so fond of minimi?
  12. +2
    29 June 2016 11: 14
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: almost demob
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Of course, I am a simple sergeant, and may the generals forgive me, but this is not a machine gun. This is an AK assault rifle with a more powerful barrel.

    Amerskiy Minimi - is the M-16 also with a more powerful barrel?)))

    I believe that a machine gun is required to have tape power, but in general who is used to anything. But the tape for separation / platoon at 5.45 is not a problem to do.

    The machine gun owes nothing to anyone, except for proper operation throughout the entire service life. Once, as an officer, I ran across the field with such a box under a machine gun. Well nah ....
    Tape feeding is wonderful in a more or less stationary position, mainly in defense. Yes, even with a second number. When maneuvering, the main weight of ammunition is desirable to have on the body, or even better behind. Then the hands do not fall off and you can fire on the go. Actually, now we are talking about a typewriter, which in weight is like an automatic machine, and in terms of speed of storage, stock of ammunition and barrel survivability like a machine gun.
    For me, the drum is so heavy and not optimal in reloading. As an option, I would suggest some carob disposable stores made of secondary plastic (shot-thrown away) or food from a satchel behind my sleeve. But with a satchel there will be an ambush. In case of machine gunner’s injury / death, transferring the barrel to someone else will be a hassle.
    1. 0
      29 June 2016 17: 38
      Quote: Berkut24

      The machine gun owes nothing to anyone, except for proper operation throughout the entire service life. Once, as an officer, I ran across the field with such a box under a machine gun. Well nah ....

      At us, the Negevists do not complain.

      1. +2
        29 June 2016 19: 11
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        At us, the Negevists do not complain.

        remember that they were told by MAGists, and are ashamed to squeak. wink
    2. +3
      29 June 2016 19: 29
      You just need a machine gun with combined power. Why come up with a wheel with new stores and drums. Bulk tape in a plastic / cloth box or standard automatic magazines / drums for ak-74 should be used
  13. +19
    29 June 2016 11: 31
    Honestly, I have a feeling that the Kalashnikov concern is now in a deep ass (sorry, painful) - judge for yourself: for the last five to seven years they have been muddying something, muddling it up - but not muddying it in any way.
    With the AK12, there is still confusion; the AK-107/108 and AK-9 remained exhibition models.
    no one saw the superblaster ASh-12 in the hands of the fighters, the super-rifle Exhaust, which "has no analogues" and blah-blah-blah - turned out to be such only in journalistic fables.
    Two original Zlobin bullpups at one of the exhibitions, upon closer examination, looked more like inoperative layouts (and apparently they were - because they disappeared).
    The AK of the hundredth series didn’t please them anymore, now they have come up with the four hundredth series - as if attaching the Israeli stock and changing the shape of the forend - necessarily requires a new series. Rave.
    Each year, saiga performance is getting worse and worse, and the cost of new products like saiga-107 is simply cosmic.
    In short, there is a banal pumping out of dough from the state and consumers - nothing new has been invented, they leave only on the immortal creations of Kalashnikov, Dragunov and other Soviet weapons geniuses.
    Now remember, another 15 years will pass, and they will again stick sticks, buttocks, and call it well, let's say 900 series. Nate, they say, eat - do not hang up.
    1. +1
      29 June 2016 19: 37
      I completely agree. Don't create anything new. Almost all "new" samples have the old AK scheme. AK is a great machine gun, I have nothing against it. But the new samples should differ from the old ones for the better quite significantly. You can put a new body kit on an old weapon, but it will remain the same. You cannot bring old T-72 tanks to the level of T-14 no matter how hard you try. The same analogy with other weapons. In general, I think that the development of a cartridge-weapon complex is required. Without changing the ammunition, the development of new samples does not make much sense. The main quality of the weapon is effective defeat of the enemy with a high probability of hitting the target.
    2. +2
      30 June 2016 00: 25
      The AR-15 / M-16 has also been molded for half a century already - and nothing. All these innovative modular XM8, XM29 and other G11 just do not want to be adopted. This is called reasonable by reasonable people. I don’t know if this is somehow called by couch experts.
  14. +2
    29 June 2016 12: 27
    All the same, the Kalashnikov system has an amazing supply of upgrades and licking designs without changing its foundation. Simplicity and reliability, today is complemented by the quality of shooting. Well done designer !!!
  15. +4
    29 June 2016 14: 18
    Yes, these scammers from the concern need to be driven with clewed rags. From year to year, product quality is falling, and they are all sitting on state orders and denyuzhku. Already afraid of God - this design is morally obsolete. How much can you ?!
  16. +2
    29 June 2016 14: 30
    The military needs to work with this machine. Then it will be seen.
  17. +1
    29 June 2016 18: 41
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Of course, I am a simple sergeant, and may the generals forgive me, but this is not a machine gun. This is an AK assault rifle with a more powerful barrel.

    And the PKK? This is also a "Kalashnikov assault rifle with a more powerful and longer barrel"! By the way, that's why he did not have "fire superiority" in comparison with the PC (chambered for a rifle cartridge)!
  18. +1
    29 June 2016 18: 52
    Quote: Aaron Zawi

    At us, the Negevists do not complain.


    it’s because you are all humble and modest)))),
    so much advanced in the weapons field, and all the same very modest ...
    But to be honest, there is not enough efficiency in the work of Ross. Defense industry, effective management - et. identity weapon, right now Maxim Popenker will improve everything, increase efficiency))).
  19. +5
    29 June 2016 20: 46
    You write everything. You write. You don't really read. And don't look at the pictures. Have you read about the requirement for a machine gun for enclosed spaces? Is this a collusion between the buyer and the manufacturer? And the description of the RPK-400 "The gas outlet unit with a gas piston is located under the barrel of the weapon, like that of the PKM," and in the picture the grandfather shoots from a machine gun with an upper gas outlet tube. Or grandpa firing from something else.
    In the general article, a full two.
  20. 0
    29 June 2016 22: 53
    But what if the tapes are made from heat-resistant chemistry, so that the empty cartridge is cut off with a shutter at the exit, naturally disposable, but lightweight and cheap. Make cartridges of 100, with the ability to connect into longer assemblies. The cartridges are pressed in or poured into plastic so that they can be picked and for the machine in which case. Equipping ribbons by ourselves is already the last century. They’re doing one-time electronics, and not expensive, but here’s a piece of plastic. Maybe I was the first to think about this - where to run a patent to issue? laughing
    1. +1
      29 June 2016 23: 06
      Quote: lexx2038
      The cartridges are pressed in or poured into plastic so that they can be picked and for the machine in which case. Equipping ribbons by ourselves is already the last century

      Here is just one of the reasons why it is not worth doing this. In the picture, all the cartridges are of different types. When you equip the tape yourself, you can stuff exactly the "combination" that you need. With ready-made ribbons, it won't get ...
  21. +1
    29 June 2016 22: 55
    Why was the fly transferred from the end of the barrel to the gas pipe, reducing the length of the sighting line? Is the problem of backlash of the receiver cover completely resolved? I have a lot of questions for developers. Is it really so difficult to develop a reliable weapon model, where the receiver consists of two halves - the upper with the barrel installed in it and the lower with the trigger and receiver of the store. Immediately there would be no problem with mounting sights on top of the receiver, because even during disassembling the shooting of the weapon would not go astray.
  22. -1
    29 June 2016 23: 21
    machine gun for the city! for whom does the bell ring? fools.
  23. 0
    30 June 2016 02: 59
    Well, of course! ... the whole concern again, without inventing anything new, took the available samples and, following the example of tuning, presented a "new development" and on top, out of habit, they were given a tender
  24. -4
    30 June 2016 11: 36
    Workers of the Kalashnikov Concern, there is no money for a salary! And here you are arguing about some kind of machine gun! Plant-Bankrupt!
    1. +3
      30 June 2016 11: 46
      Quote: anchabali
      Bankrupt Factory!

      - the news is "rotten", and for a long time

      Quote: anchabali
      Workers of the Kalashnikov Concern, there is no money for a salary!

      - data on delays z / p on Kalashnikov - in the studio. With links, be sure ...

      You must be able to lie too. My minus, if only ...
  25. +3
    30 June 2016 15: 36
    1 In the photo the machine gun has a "light barrel" - it means it will overheat - for a support weapon, which is a machine gun - a "heavy" barrel is needed.
    2. It is not visible in the photo, but the barrel does not give the impression of a removable one - if this is so, then the specimen can very conditionally be called a machine gun - a heavy assault rifle is more suitable.
  26. 0
    1 July 2016 06: 36
    I agree with the idea that an assault rifle with a heavy barrel and a drum magazine and a light machine gun are slightly different things .... The barrel should be either replaceable or "ventilated", the power supply should be tape and optionally a magazine one. The Minimini is an adaptation of the well-known and successful 7,62x51 FN machine gun for 5,56 caliber with modernization for modern requirements. We have an equally successful and more modern "Pecheneg", so a new machine gun should be made on its basis. I don’t know about the caliber, maybe 7,62x39 should be considered, or maybe 5,45x39 - this is an eternal dispute. Or maybe consider 6mm or 6,5mm calibers. In my opinion, the AK-400 is drawn to the next modernization of the PKM and AKM, and again the budget.
    1. +1
      1 August 2016 00: 44
      "ventilated" is better. I had a machine gun with a removable barrel in the army. firstly, it is overweight, and wearing it is not much fun. secondly ... I personally had problems. because one barrel fired for 2 hours and the other for 9. and every time to reconfigure for shooting is also not much fun, especially if there is intense fire contact and at a distance of more than 200m. I was still happy as a kid that I got the small machine gun NK-11. 10 kg without cartridges and without optics. and if you still hang all the ammunition, about 7 kg. for 20 minutes of intense combat, and then there's the barrel on the leg ... + sapper + M-71 backpack, flask, a couple of grenades and also a suitcase with a night vision scope ... or now I don't know what sights they wear, but we have were two different. Weighed 5 kg at night and 3100 grams in normal daytime. that in the grave I saw such a delusion.
  27. -1
    1 July 2016 10: 19
    a light machine gun should be 7,62 caliber, a rate of fire of 800-1000 rpm, an aiming range of 1500 m, and accuracy so that a fighter from 500 m could be in the boxes, all that is lower for the machine gun is crafty.
  28. 0
    11 July 2016 20: 53
    That in Russia they don’t do all one AK turns out. The RPK machine is good, bring to mind, and make a cartridge store for 75-100 (the dimensions of the cartridge allow) and the tape is not needed, there will be a class.
  29. 0
    1 August 2016 00: 31
    Quote: inkass_98
    In this case, deeply equally - tape or store food. With an 95 drum capacity of cartridges and approximately the same dimensions, a magazine-fed machine gun will be simpler in design and lighter in weight, as well as more technological in manufacturing. Recharging in combat conditions will also be easier with store food. And at least the equipment, although the store of such a volume will take quite a lot of time, so there’s parity in it.
    Well and still - in which case it will be possible to install any store from a machine gun of the same caliber on a machine gun with a store-fed machine gun, with a tape machine gun such a focus definitely will not work.

    Not certainly in that way. I had an NK-11. shops from G-3A3 also went to it and it was possible to change the adapter very quickly and use the tape from MG-3, FN Mag. the cartridge is the same 7,62X51 mm. in the part where I served, I used to use the store more often, and on the border they already gave adapters to everyone who had a pen. machine guns, and so they said, in the case of a clash with the Albanians, put the tape. and ran along the border with 6 magazines at unloading and 2 belts for 100 rounds per box.
  30. 0
    5 August 2016 13: 13
    drank golemy

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