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The American destroyer Gravely has dangerously approached the Russian watchdog Yaroslav the Wise in the Mediterranean

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Frants Klintsevich, First Deputy Head of the Committee of the Federation Council on Defense and Security, commented on information about the approach of the American destroyer Gravely close to the Russian Yaroslav the Wise patrol. According to the Russian senator, this is an American provocation. Interfax cites Klintsevich's statement:
This is a provocation, this is a blatant case - the convergence of such ships at a distance of 180 meters threatens with a possible sharp accident, because anything can happen there.



The American destroyer Gravely has dangerously approached the Russian watchdog Yaroslav the Wise in the Mediterranean


It should be noted that Press Service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation spread the message that on June 17 in the Mediterranean, the US Navy destroyer approached the Russian patrol ship at close range. In this case, we are talking about 60-70 m.

From the statement of the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation:
On June 17, in the eastern part of the Mediterranean, the American destroyer Gravely made a dangerous rapprochement with the Russian warship to the 60-70 meters on the left side and crossed the route of the Yaroslav the Wise patrol ship on the dangerous 180 meters. At the same time, the Russian warship followed a constant course and speed in international waters and did not carry out any dangerous maneuvering with respect to the American ship.


The Russian defense ministry said that lately the Pentagon constantly accuses Russian military pilots and sailors of incompetence, but it does not say anything when American seamen violate safety standards at sea.

Press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation:
This incident, involving the dangerous maneuvering of the “Gravely” destroyer, shows that American naval sailors allow themselves to forget about the basic principles of safe navigation and not think at all about the consequences of dangerous maneuvering in areas of intensive navigation. The commander and crew of the destroyer "Gravely" grossly violated the international rules for preventing collisions of ships (MCPSS-71). The American sailors ignored the 13 rule (“Overtaking”), which requires each vessel to overtake to steer away from the course of the vessel being overtaken, and the 15 rule (“Course crossing situation”).


The Russian patrol ship "Yaroslav the Wise" enters the Mediterranean squadron of the Russian Navy on a rotating basis. Naval affiliation - the Baltic Fleet of the Russian Federation.
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  1. Dr. Stein
    Dr. Stein 28 June 2016 15: 56
    +5
    They will get more! soldier
    1. The black
      The black 28 June 2016 16: 00
      +10
      Lost, maybe.? Would you like to ask for a road? laughing
      1. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 28 June 2016 16: 08
        +89
        Dangerous driving. Take the rights from the captain of the American destroyer. You can pay the fine at any branch of Sberbank.
        1. Mercenary
          Mercenary 28 June 2016 16: 48
          +60
          "Take away rights" and evacuate the vehicle to a fine parking!
          1. cniza
            cniza 28 June 2016 17: 24
            +20
            Everything is returning, as in the times of the confrontation between the USSR and the USA, but Russia is now different and there is no need to provoke us.
            1. sherp2015
              sherp2015 28 June 2016 17: 35
              +10
              Quote: cniza
              Everything is returning, as in the times of the confrontation between the USSR and the USA, but Russia is now different and there is no need to provoke us.

              decided to check with whom I ... are stronger?
            2. OlegLex
              OlegLex 28 June 2016 18: 30
              +12
              Everything is returning, as in the times of the confrontation between the USSR and the USA, but Russia is now different and there is no need to provoke us.

              Well, yes, we are now much weaker than in the days of the USSR, but we have become angrier as well, have thrown the blinkers from our eyes.
              1. Mahmut
                Mahmut 28 June 2016 19: 23
                -63%
                Well, they cheered again. In the navy, in contrast to highways, the rule is "interference from the left". Initially, the American's course was perpendicular to ours. "Goes across the path" - a sailor's voice-over. The American walked on the left side, which means that our ship should have let him through, but did not do this, violating the rules of maritime navigation. In order to avoid a collision, the destroyer turned to the left and was directly in the course of our ship.
                1. larand
                  larand 28 June 2016 19: 36
                  +58
                  Quote: Mahmut
                  Well, they huffed again. The American was on the left side, which means our ship should have missed it, but did not violate the rule of maritime shipping. To avoid a collision, the destroyer turned to the left and ended up right at the heading of our ship.

                  When two ships with mechanical engines approach each other on opposite or almost opposite courses so that there is a danger of a collision, each of them should change its course to the right so that each ship passes the other on the port side.
                  When they go at intersecting courses so that there is a danger of a collision, a vessel that has another on its right side should give way to another vessel and, if circumstances permit, it must avoid crossing the course of another vessel along its bow.
                  Learn the materiel before lecturing.
                  1. OlegLex
                    OlegLex 29 June 2016 20: 48
                    +1
                    Well, about the nuance, that these are two warships, and that ram is still considered a means of attack.
                  2. denis02135
                    denis02135 30 June 2016 02: 30
                    0
                    Dear larand

                    And you do not know why you removed the Commander of the Baltic Fleet and the chief of staff? After US accusations or for another reason? Somehow it converges in time.
                    1. lukewarm
                      lukewarm 30 June 2016 18: 25
                      +1
                      It was written for overstatement and unsatisfactory performance. Easier for fraud. Beautifully reported and crap one's pants.
                2. kayman4
                  kayman4 28 June 2016 19: 40
                  +34
                  It's nice to see such a sign of navigation :) But I don't know where the rules of the "left" interference come from :) Out of what fantasies. An old naval rule - "take care of the starboard side" (because the captain's cabin is there :))

                  So the American cut the course of the guard from the port side, which means that the starboard side was covered — the Russians didn’t violate anything here — but while waiting for the Americans, our guard was right across the board - so - “... a vessel that has another on its right side must give way to another vessel and, if circumstances permit, it must avoid crossing the course of another vessel along its bow” (MPPSS, Rule 15). It should also “... take early and decisive action in order to disperse cleanly with another ship” (IWSS, Rule 16).

                  Thickly troll
                  1. roadsmell
                    roadsmell 28 June 2016 21: 59
                    +7
                    Finish the star))) ...
                    Ukrainians are already yelling:
                    Russian ship made dangerous operations near US Navy ships
                    RIA Novosti Ukraine: http://rian.com.ua/world_news/20160628/1012349624.html


                    ... Again they are not to blame, but we ourselves came laughing
                    1. Ramzaj99
                      Ramzaj99 28 June 2016 22: 54
                      +2
                      Quote: roadsmell
                      Finish the star))) ...
                      Ukrainians are already yelling:
                      Russian ship made dangerous operations near US Navy ships

                      Yes, no longer Ukrainians, already the Pentagon.
                      This is 100500 lvl of cynicism ((((
                      1. Mahmut
                        Mahmut 29 June 2016 05: 42
                        -11%
                        The rule you are talking about was valid in the equestrian formations of the Basmachi, but not in the navy. Currently, even ships navigating the vast steppes of Kazakhstan do not use this rule.

                        The rules of navigation are the same for everyone. "Skip the left", but if it is very hot - we will vote as it should, and we will drag in any heresy as arguments.
                      2. larand
                        larand 29 June 2016 06: 44
                        +5
                        Quote: Mahmut
                        [i] The rule you are talking about was valid in the equestrian formations of the Basmachi, but not in the fleet. At present, even ships plowing the expanses of the steppes of Kazakhstan do not use this rule ..

                        Of the Basmachi or something, an expert?
                      3. kayman4
                        kayman4 29 June 2016 19: 31
                        +2
                        Rather, you have one concept in navigation - "He who is not Russian is always right :)" _

                        find the link to your clutter on the left :)
              2. unsinkable
                unsinkable 28 June 2016 20: 46
                +7
                Quote: Mahmut
                the rule applies

                The rule you are talking about was valid in the equestrian formations of the Basmachi, but not in the navy. Currently, even ships navigating the vast steppes of Kazakhstan do not use this rule.
              3. okroshka79
                okroshka79 28 June 2016 21: 11
                +1
                Decided to troll? Oh well.
              4. kepmor
                kepmor 28 June 2016 22: 28
                +37
                Mahmoud, this is in the desert on camels "interference from the left", and in the sea COLREG-72 rule 15 is in effect - "a ship with a mechanical engine MUST give way to an obstacle on the RIGHT" !!!!
                Don’t confuse donkey with ship ...
                Actually, I don't understand what this "fuss" was raised by our journalists!
                At all times, our fleet butted with NATO at sea - and stronger than the one who is bolder!
                Himself on his ship more than once "expelled" both the British and the Norwegians from the areas of closure, while absolutely "did not care about the rules of the COLREGs, the main thing here is who has a" point more iron "!
                They even tried to deprive me of my admission to control the ship in 89, for dangerous maneuvering during a "joint waltz" on the border of the missile firing area with the old "Maryatta" (a reconnaissance ship of the Norwegian Navy) ... but limited to the "strokach" from Kom Fleet.
                Americans at sea behave very brazenly. They should not be given slack - they will only sit on their necks!
                And our commander had to immediately raise the signal on the MSS - "I am starting the maneuver to the left," and not continue to follow the same course!
                At sea, as "in the yard" - the stronger is the one who is bolder .... there is nothing for our "snot to chew" !!!
              5. Berkut-UA
                Berkut-UA 28 June 2016 23: 05
                +2
                As Secretary of State Kerry said, "If the Russians fly so close to our ships again, we have the right to shoot them down."
                Well, in this case,
                following THIS american logic
                The Russian ship had every right to drown the Americans.
                1. kepmor
                  kepmor 28 June 2016 23: 24
                  +5
                  And you on the road, too, immediately from the "shotgun" smack at everyone who "cut" you?
                  It is also surprising that the "sofa naval commanders" in this situation, which is not worth a "hatched egg", about the "calibers" are silent for some reason !?
                  Apparently this "political worker" Klintsevich so wants to get into a new thought, since he is inflating "out of a fly elephant" ... the homeland is in danger!
                  The closer the elections, the more "urapatriotic insanity" will be from the servants of the people!
              6. a housewife
                a housewife 29 June 2016 00: 28
                +1
                Skip? What is it like? Slow down? negative
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            3. max73
              max73 28 June 2016 20: 09
              +6
              weaker, not the USSR, I agree. but, did not turn away "Wise" and did not change the course
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 28 June 2016 21: 21
                +7
                Quote: max73
                weaker, not the USSR, I agree. but, did not turn away "Wise" and did not change the course

                I wonder if, instead of our guard, Peter the Great would be enough for the spirit of the mattresses to make a decision on rapprochement? Something very doubtful. Petka would definitely not have turned.
                1. the most important
                  the most important 1 July 2016 15: 54
                  0
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  I wonder if, instead of our guard, Peter the Great would be enough for the spirit of the mattresses to make a decision on rapprochement? Something very doubtful. Petka would definitely not have turned.

                  We need 15 such beauties ... then nobody will cross the road!
          2. dkflbvbh
            dkflbvbh 1 July 2016 08: 58
            0
            cniza RU June 28, 2016 17:24 ↑
            Everything is returning, as in the times of the confrontation between the USSR and the USA, but Russia is now different and there is no need to provoke us.

            This USSR did not have to provoke ... And not this Russia ...
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        3. Persistent
          Persistent 28 June 2016 17: 26
          +7
          "Take away the rights" and evacuate the vehicle to a fine parking lot!

          Tie a knot on the barrel of the gun mount laughing
        4. IgorV
          IgorV 28 June 2016 17: 34
          +7
          A captain for 15 days. laughing
        5. mad
          mad 28 June 2016 17: 40
          +6
          Quote: Mercenary
          evacuate the vehicle to a fine parking!

          at the bottom of the Mediterranean)))
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      2. Simon
        Simon 28 June 2016 16: 57
        +4
        The next time it happens, to the parking lot, put to the bottom, rights are not needed there!
      3. NIKNN
        NIKNN 28 June 2016 17: 05
        +11
        C'mon guys. Especially nothing happened.
        I think in response to the claim, the states will answer: "... The Russian ship is dangerously close (180 m from the rear) the course of our destroyer, which is an unacceptable violation of ALL international ... etc." That's when we'll laugh
        1. Persistent
          Persistent 28 June 2016 17: 28
          +3
          C'mon guys. Especially nothing happened.
          I think in response to the claim, the states will answer: "... The Russian ship is dangerously close (180 m from the rear) the course of our destroyer, which is an unacceptable violation of ALL international ... etc." That's when we'll laugh


          Insolent ... am Let them come to the Crimea to get a "bulk" for the acuteness ... laughing
      4. Kostyar
        Kostyar 28 June 2016 17: 51
        +3
        When the crowd of Americans, like in the Mediterranean, they are, oh, oh very cool .....
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    2. Joe stalin
      Joe stalin 28 June 2016 16: 50
      +1
      No, just navigator Gravely ordered "sushi oars" and at that moment the destroyer poured a gust of wind on our patrol boat.
    3. sherp2015
      sherp2015 28 June 2016 17: 04
      +2
      Quote: Black
      Lost, maybe.? Would you like to ask for a road? laughing

      It is necessary to turn to the experience of Soviet times. They didn’t get there for a long time with the violator (NAVAL)
      1. Persistent
        Persistent 28 June 2016 17: 30
        +11
        It is necessary to turn to the experience of Soviet times. They didn’t get there for a long time with the violator (NAVAL)

        Alas !! "Naval" is possible only in our territorial waters ... angry
      2. lukewarm
        lukewarm 30 June 2016 18: 31
        0
        Yeah. Only there were OUR territorial waters. And with all this, our captain washed in Moscow for a long time - the times were already Gorbachev's and the course was taken to surrender everything and everyone. It is clear that such actions of the military "leader" were annoying.
    4. razmik72
      razmik72 28 June 2016 17: 18
      -5
      A similar situation occurred with another Russian patrol ship in the Aegean Sea on December 13, 2015, when the Smetlivy patrol ship opened warning fire on a Turkish fishing seiner approaching it. This time the captain's nerves were stronger.
      1. goblin xnumx
        goblin xnumx 28 June 2016 17: 52
        +6
        yeah, compared- fire on the fisherman and fire on the destroyer :) - what nerves? - think what to write :)
        1. razmik72
          razmik72 28 June 2016 18: 18
          -14%
          Quote: Leshy74
          yeah, compared- fire on the fisherman and fire on the destroyer :) - what nerves? - think what to write :)

          The captain of "Sharp-witted" either obviously lost his nerves when he opened fire on the Turkish fishing seiner, or he did it in order, so to speak, to put pressure on the Turkish side. "he could also open warning fire, a large number of members of the forum support such a decision, but only the captain of the" American "could turn out to be a" gambling "man wink and in response he could also "shoot". "American" is clearly not a "fisherman", he had something to answer.
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 28 June 2016 19: 12
            +10
            Quote: razmik72
            The captain of the "Sharp-witted" either obviously lost his nerves when he opened fire on the Turkish fishing seiner, or he did it in order, so to speak, to put pressure on the Turkish side. "He could also open warning fire, a large number of members of the forum support such a decision, but only the captain of the" American "could turn out to be a" gambling "man and in response could also" shoot ". "American" is clearly not a "fisherman", he had something to answer.

            The fishing seiner could in reality be anyone, including the Igilovsky firewall. In the case of the destroyers, everything is clear and here the rules of the game are different.
            1. razmik72
              razmik72 28 June 2016 19: 37
              -21%
              Quote: Vladimirets
              Quote: razmik72
              The captain of the "Sharp-witted" either obviously lost his nerves when he opened fire on the Turkish fishing seiner, or he did it in order, so to speak, to put pressure on the Turkish side. "He could also open warning fire, a large number of members of the forum support such a decision, but only the captain of the" American "could turn out to be a" gambling "man and in response could also" shoot ". "American" is clearly not a "fisherman", he had something to answer.

              The fishing seiner could in reality be anyone, including the Igilovsky firewall. In the case of the destroyers, everything is clear and here the rules of the game are different.

              The Igilovsky Brander is something new in military affairs. Any stupidity can be justified, for that matter.
              1. Vladimirets
                Vladimirets 28 June 2016 20: 06
                +11
                Quote: razmik72
                The Igilovsky Brander is something new in military affairs. Any stupidity can be justified, for that matter.

                The planes in the twin towers were brand new, but there was nothing new in the firewalls, the ancients still drowned the ships of the enemies with the help of arsoners (and now fuses). And with ships from a fairly new one, if you yourself haven’t heard anything:
                "In the fall of 2000, the destroyer Cole, part of the Fifth Fleet of the US Navy, was carrying out tasks to monitor compliance with the international embargo against Iraq. On October 12, 2000, at 9:30 am (local time), the destroyer Cole moored in the port of Aden for The ship began refueling at 10 am During the next hour, about 30 gallons of JP-100 fuel (000 gpm) entered the ship's fuel tanks. 5 UTC), while the crew of the ship was having breakfast in the dining room, the destroyer Cole was attacked by a fiberglass motor boat operated by two suicide bombers (according to some sources - Arab origin) and stuffed, according to experts, 2000-11 or even 18 kilograms of explosives in TNT equivalent.
                As a result of a blast in the middle part of the hull (from the port side) at the waterline level, a hole of 6 × 12 m was formed (according to other sources - 12 × 12 or even 12 × 18 m), crew cubicles and cabins were flooded. Gas turbine engines, a propeller shaft were disabled, and the dining room on the upper deck was damaged. From the explosion, "Cole" tilted four degrees to the port side. The consequence of the explosion was a fire, and the crew of the ship until the evening fought for its survivability.
                The explosion killed 17 people, including 2 female members of the Cole team, another 39 people were injured of varying severity. "

                And it was a boat in the port, but what if the whole seiner was in the sea? request
                1. razmik72
                  razmik72 28 June 2016 21: 27
                  -8
                  Quote: Vladimirets
                  Quote: razmik72
                  The Igilovsky Brander is something new in military affairs. Any stupidity can be justified, for that matter.

                  The planes in the twin towers were brand new, but there was nothing new in the firewalls, the ancients still drowned the ships of the enemies with the help of arsoners (and now fuses). And with ships from a fairly new one, if you yourself haven’t heard anything:
                  "In the fall of 2000, the destroyer Cole, part of the Fifth Fleet of the US Navy, was carrying out tasks to monitor compliance with the international embargo against Iraq. On October 12, 2000, at 9:30 am (local time), the destroyer Cole moored in the port of Aden for The ship began refueling at 10 am During the next hour, about 30 gallons of JP-100 fuel (000 gpm) entered the ship's fuel tanks. 5 UTC), while the crew of the ship was having breakfast in the dining room, the destroyer Cole was attacked by a fiberglass motor boat operated by two suicide bombers (according to some sources - Arab origin) and stuffed, according to experts, 2000-11 or even 18 kilograms of explosives in TNT equivalent.
                  As a result of a blast in the middle part of the hull (from the port side) at the waterline level, a hole of 6 × 12 m was formed (according to other sources - 12 × 12 or even 12 × 18 m), crew cubicles and cabins were flooded. Gas turbine engines, a propeller shaft were disabled, and the dining room on the upper deck was damaged. From the explosion, "Cole" tilted four degrees to the port side. The consequence of the explosion was a fire, and the crew of the ship until the evening fought for its survivability.
                  The explosion killed 17 people, including 2 female members of the Cole team, another 39 people were injured of varying severity. "

                  And it was a boat in the port, but what if the whole seiner was in the sea? request

                  You shouldn't have made such an excursion into history and write such a long text, but he is well aware of the fire-ships and the ways of their use. My sarcasm is connected with the fact that ISIS still has no fleet, not a single ship, and the incident with the Russian patrol ship "Smetlivy" occurred in the Aegean Sea, between the coasts of Turkey and Greece, and not off the coast of Syria. For your information, there are hundreds of kilometers from the Aegean Sea to Syria.
                  1. Weyland
                    Weyland 30 June 2016 01: 16
                    +1
                    Quote: razmik72
                    My sarcasm is due to the fact that so far ISIS has no fleet, not a single ship


                    So in 2000m everyone thought that al-Qaeda did not have a fleet! smile So what, is a firewall a fleet or something?
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              2. AllXVahhaB
                AllXVahhaB 29 June 2016 12: 10
                +1
                Quote: razmik72
                The Igilovsky Brander is something new in military affairs.

                And what's new ???
              3. AllXVahhaB
                AllXVahhaB 29 June 2016 12: 12
                +1
                Quote: razmik72
                Any stupidity can be justified, for that matter.

                Any stupid message can be refuted, for that matter:
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        2. uruss
          uruss 28 June 2016 19: 01
          -9
          if the destroyer then immediately ramp!
      2. My doctor
        My doctor 28 June 2016 20: 38
        -5
        -
        Quote: razmik72
        A similar situation occurred with another Russian patrol ship in the Aegean Sea on December 13, 2015, when the Smetlivy patrol ship opened warning fire on a Turkish fishing seiner approaching it.
        compared the Turkish fishing seiner and the American destroyer. In front of the guard, the art installation is steeper and the displacement is greater without taking into account the missiles, and the seiner is only a network.
        1. AllXVahhaB
          AllXVahhaB 29 June 2016 12: 13
          -1
          Quote: MyVrach
          compared the Turkish fishing seiner and the American destroyer. In front of the guard, the art installation is steeper and the displacement is greater without taking into account the missiles, and the seiner is only a network.

          For example, how is it?
        2. igor.borov775
          igor.borov775 29 June 2016 13: 44
          0
          Hello!!. Excuse me, but here is the stlrzhevik. He was parked in the city. Yayaya Each case is separate and the situations are always different. With Respect
        3. 11 black
          11 black 29 June 2016 16: 52
          0
          Quote: MyVrach
          compared the Turkish fishing seiner and the American destroyer. In front of the guard, the art installation is steeper and the displacement is greater without taking into account the missiles, and the seiner is only a network.

          What does art mean. installation "cooler" - how much and what exactly may I ask?
          Yes, and our RBU stands on the nose - if you shoot point-blank it is just a terrible thing.
    5. SMikhalych
      SMikhalych 28 June 2016 20: 05
      +1
      Quote: Black
      Lost, maybe.? Would you like to ask for a road?

      - Russians, didn’t our swim here?
      - Yes, gone south-west-west ...
      - What the hell is South-West-West, I’ll come closer now and show me the direction with your hand belay
    6. RussianRoulette
      RussianRoulette 29 June 2016 12: 36
      0
      Tests of the latest development of the Russian Federation, the Invisible M ship camouflage system, were successful! The Gravely's crew and command learned of the dangerous rapprochement with the Yaroslav the Wise from the news. good
  2. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 28 June 2016 16: 00
    +12
    Greyhound Americans. So it itches a lot from the campaign company. Obama and Clintonsha really need a victory over Russia and GDP. Although local.
    1. ava09
      ava09 28 June 2016 16: 31
      +3
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Greyhound Americans. So it itches a lot from the campaign company. Obama and Clintonsha really need a victory over Russia and GDP. Although local.

      They will continue this process until some stop reasoning like that ... Are you familiar with these individuals (s) Obama and Clintonsha (s)? Remember, young man, our main ENEMY is our own STUPIDITY ... And the Navy lives its own life, for it it is a "working" situation ...
      1. Simon
        Simon 28 June 2016 17: 03
        0
        The Americans must have forgotten the Black Sea when the patrol guard drove off two of their warships by ramming!
        1. ava09
          ava09 28 June 2016 17: 28
          +7
          If you are operating with facts, a big request - do not distort them, please.
  3. Vend
    Vend 28 June 2016 16: 01
    +1
    Quote: Dr. Stein
    They will get more! soldier

    What did the mattresses say about the dangerous maneuvers of our aircraft? It is visible to them a few who quit Donald Cook.
  4. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 28 June 2016 16: 01
    +54
    Quote: Dr. Stein
    They will get more!

    "This is a provocation, this is an egregious case - the convergence of such ships at a distance of 180 meters threatens a possible abrupt accident, because anything can happen there."

    If we ourselves are flying next to them, then we also need, respectively, to squeeze a point into a fist and work on, rather than start yelling at the whole world. yes After all, we are also checked for lice.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 28 June 2016 16: 08
      +6
      The American destroyer Gravely has dangerously approached the Russian watchdog Yaroslav the Wise in the Mediterranean

      Tried to hold on? belay Our watchdogs are not one of these! smile
    2. ava09
      ava09 28 June 2016 16: 39
      +1
      Well, I was glad! At least one SANE-THOUGHTING, besides understanding ... "Climbed into Fight-Fight" ...
    3. Ajent cho
      Ajent cho 28 June 2016 20: 07
      -1
      Quote: Vladimirets
      work further, and not start yelling to the whole world

      Those. You don't see the difference at all? In our cases, we simply did not allow them to get too close to the border and our (military!) Bases - provocations were, again, from the Nundos. In this case, the captain of the destroyer stupidly, childishly, wanted to "win back".
  5. siberalt
    siberalt 28 June 2016 16: 12
    +4
    Hooliganism at sea does not bring to good. It seems that the leadership of the US Navy is headed either by the infants or by the provocateurs.
    1. gg.na
      gg.na 28 June 2016 16: 16
      +6
      Quote: siberalt
      either infants or provocateurs.

      Or both of them in one bottle!
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      2. siberalt
        siberalt 28 June 2016 17: 35
        0
        I very much agree! There is a simple Russian word with the letter "D", but without a link with our Ivanushka, it is prohibited on the site. A kind of one-sided European-style tolerance for Russians laughing
        If the second meaning of language is people, then they are afraid of us, however.
    2. Wiruz
      Wiruz 28 June 2016 16: 18
      -12%
      Well, gentlemen, uri-patriots ?! What say now?

      So how can our dryers fly over their Donald Cooks, is this normal? Like, "they themselves are to blame, and in general, the army and navy foreva" wassat

      And as they write out a pretzel in front of our ship, so immediately "they are wrong, so-so ... where are the norms of the law of the sea", etc. winked

      As we are to people, so are they to us, alas hi

      PySy: let's set a record - 100 cons! I haven’t had so much laughing
      1. Temples
        Temples 28 June 2016 16: 22
        +10
        Why are you wrong?

        Did someone write a dismissal report upon arrival at the port?

        You sir panic more) laughing
        1. Wiruz
          Wiruz 28 June 2016 16: 30
          -9
          You sir panic more)

          No one is panicking. More precisely, I definitely do not, for the rest I do not know.

          It's just that everyone here is so happy when the Su-24, according to tradition, imitates an attack on American destroyers, either in the Black Sea or the Baltic. All this happens in neutral waters, albeit near Russia. And after all, few people understand that American ships, in this case, have every right to shoot down our aircraft.

          And now here is a similar situation, although it is not an imitation of an attack on our ship. Read the comments: everyone around is unhappy with the action of the American destroyer. How does is called? An hour not "double standards ?! winked
          1. oblako
            oblako 29 June 2016 05: 35
            +2
            They are glad that Russia can already answer the boor, and not just wipe the snot ... Note, at its borders, not at the American ones. And the standard will be when we simulate an attack in the Gulf of Mexico. Then it will be 1: 1 and the score is equal. That's when they say in football "we will snatch a point from the enemy!"))) And after all, "few people know" (I. Prokopenko) that the one who had the right to shoot down our planes was not able to do it 12 times in a row ... Just a probable enemy except permissiveness should also experience some other feelings, the obligation of the Russian military to teach it to do this even before the war, before the actual conflict, so that there would be no surprises later, and at best, that it would not even come to the conflict. Unfortunately, the bandits do not understand another language.
      2. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 28 June 2016 16: 25
        +11
        Quote: Wiruz
        As we are to people, so are they to us, alas

        The point is not that as we are to them, so they are to us. And the fact that the military, both those and others, are men, hussars and daring have always been. And if we are already making fun of the whining of American scout crews, then we shouldn't wail about the Burke in a cable from the Wise. And I don’t think that someone in the TFR team has turned gray. So, the commander reported on command, and already the Ministry of Defense started its own song.
        1. Dimon19661
          Dimon19661 28 June 2016 16: 38
          +7
          The usual practice is accepted always and everywhere. We remember in a similar way at one time drove the Japanese away from the shooting area. By the way, the Americans didn’t cross the course dangerously (90 degrees were not), so this could not be called a provocation. But they could show the end ((offer to take in tow) is a kind of marine humor. Do not inflate an elephant from a fly.
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        1. Ivan Ivanych
          Ivan Ivanych 28 June 2016 16: 50
          -1
          I guessed you weren’t alone here laughing
          1. Wiruz
            Wiruz 28 June 2016 16: 56
            -11%
            I guessed you weren’t alone here

            I didn’t mix cognac with cola at the same table with you, so I’ll ask you not to "poke".
            And about the fact that I'm not the only one here ... So this, sober, sound, fair-thinking people may be few, but they are winked
            1. Ivan Ivanych
              Ivan Ivanych 28 June 2016 17: 04
              0
              I don’t know personally. Judging by the statements. But sir, I wouldn’t drink cognac on one hectare wink
              1. Wiruz
                Wiruz 28 June 2016 17: 10
                0
                I don’t know personally. Judging by the statements. But sir, I wouldn’t drink cognac on one hectare

                I will not exchange mutual insults with you smile My vanity will not forgive me lol
        2. EvgNik
          EvgNik 28 June 2016 16: 54
          +4
          Quote: Ivan Ivanovich
          This is why this site sometimes surprises me that doves like you are gaining 300000 "plus signs"

          Ivan Ivanovich, please specify who you are addressing. And a remark - it is customary to refer to "you" on the site only to acquaintances, and then their consent.
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          2. Ivan Ivanych
            Ivan Ivanych 28 June 2016 18: 22
            -6
            Yes, you, Mr. Marshal, look at the text. he lit up))
            1. EvgNik
              EvgNik 28 June 2016 18: 52
              +2
              Quote: Ivan Ivanovich
              Yes, you, Mr. Marshal, look at the text. he lit up

              What does not allow to be rude. There are rules and they must be observed. We all started with the rank and file. Perhaps you will once become a marshal.
          3. a housewife
            a housewife 29 June 2016 00: 44
            +1
            On "you" you can still go to boors and trolls. The rest do not deserve this.
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      4. cap
        cap 28 June 2016 16: 31
        +23
        Quote: Wiruz
        Well, gentlemen, uri-patriots ?! What say now?

        So how can our dryers fly over their Donald Cooks, is this normal? Like, "they themselves are to blame, and in general, the army and navy foreva" wassat

        And as they write out a pretzel in front of our ship, so immediately "they are wrong, so-so ... where are the norms of the law of the sea", etc. winked

        As we are to people, so are they to us, alas hi

        PySy: let's set a record - 100 cons! I haven’t had so much laughing


        Not serious. Let us recall physics. 180 meters for the ship, very little. Inertia. Yes and no handbrake on the ship.
        Both in neutral waters.
        They will meet on the shore "talk".
        In general, pure provocation.
        Without the knowledge of the fleet admiral or squadron commander, they are removed from office for such a maneuver, this is for starters.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 28 June 2016 16: 35
          +11
          Quote: cap
          Let us recall physics. 180 meters for the ship, very little. Inertia. Yes, and there is no handbrake on the ship.

          Better math, class, so, for 4th. The speed of an American is higher, he crosses our course at a very sharp angle. In such layouts of cables, this is quite a lot.
          Quote: cap
          In general, pure provocation.

          This is simple rudeness, such as leaving the "dust to swallow" on the road.
        2. An64
          An64 28 June 2016 17: 14
          +5
          Quote: cap
          180 meters for the ship, very few

          Is 30 meters high for an airplane normal?
          Mutual provocations are underway - we have flown over their heads, they have become ahead of us ...
          What is the difference? What burst into tears?
          1. Verdun
            Verdun 28 June 2016 17: 44
            +1
            Quote: An64
            Mutual provocations are underway - we have flown over their heads, they have become ahead of us ...
            What is the difference? What burst into tears?

            I watched the video of the event discussed posted on the network. It does not pull on a dangerous rapprochement. can only be regarded as a violation of the rules of navigation. I do not know how the military behave in such cases. Civil shipowners file a lawsuit against the perpetrator. Distorted by the phrase that
            rapprochement of such ships at a distance of 180 meters threatens with a possible sharp accident, because anything can happen there.
            Anything is what? Nervous breakdown in any of the crew members? So after all, the crew of a warship is not an institution of noble maidens. Tea, Russian sailors - not American - to smear snot on the cheeks for every occasion!
      5. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 28 June 2016 16: 34
        +1
        Quote: Wiruz
        Well, gentlemen, uri-patriots ?! What say now?

        So how can our dryers fly over their Donald Cooks, is this normal? Like, "they themselves are to blame, and in general, the army and navy foreva" wassat

        And as they write out a pretzel in front of our ship, so immediately "they are wrong, so-so ... where are the norms of the law of the sea", etc. winked

        As we are to people, so are they to us, alas hi

        PySy: let's set a record - 100 cons! I haven’t had so much laughing

        A rather stupid comment ... What are the cons? request For stupidity?
        As I understand it, it’s useless to urge to study geography ..?
        1. Wiruz
          Wiruz 28 June 2016 16: 38
          -8
          As I understand it, it’s useless to urge to study geography ..?

          Absolutely useless! And so the solid four was
      6. grandfather
        grandfather 28 June 2016 16: 40
        +1
        + correctly wrote everything to you. so we also need to emphasize in the media, saying that this is what the exceptional people are doing, and we are just near our borders and intercepting water.
        however the service.
      7. vorobey
        vorobey 28 June 2016 18: 04
        +7
        Quote: Wiruz
        PySy: let's set a record - 100 cons! I haven’t had so much


        so here you are how elusive JOE ... laughing
      8. Ajent cho
        Ajent cho 28 June 2016 20: 11
        +1
        Quote: Wiruz
        PySy: let's set a record - 100 cons! I haven’t had so much

        Don’t you say so on minuses and pluses - did not play enough in your childhood?
        And with regards to Donald Cook and others, it’s so safe to rattle weapons near our borders. Do you feel the difference?
      9. Lelek
        Lelek 29 June 2016 09: 32
        -1
        Quote: Wiruz
        let's set a record - 100 cons!


        But you are right. Take away your property and FELL. fellow fool
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  7. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 28 June 2016 17: 25
    +4
    Already received, only forgotten .. In 1988 ..
  8. sgazeev
    sgazeev 28 June 2016 17: 45
    +7
    Quote: Dr. Stein
    They will get more! soldier
  9. GradusHuK
    GradusHuK 28 June 2016 17: 46
    +3
    What characteristically insolent!
  10. joopel
    joopel 28 June 2016 20: 30
    0
    A couple of blacks fanned out. What did you want to show? Is his iron healthier? Or dope more? Most likely either stoned, or gorged in the trash.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 29 June 2016 09: 39
      0
      Quote: joopel
      What did you want to show?


      Most likely, they wanted to show in response to the Black Sea and Baltic embarrassment that they were not done with a finger, but it turned out the other way around. Our crew had to include the song "Don't play the fool, America ..." according to the GGS. bully
  11. 4ekist
    4ekist 28 June 2016 22: 18
    0
    If such a maneuver took place off the coast of Florida, one could understand. And if in the endless expanses of neutral waters, then this is a fool of "sea punks".
  • EvgNik
    EvgNik 28 June 2016 16: 00
    +4
    Well, following the beaten path of the states - expressing concern - is somehow not solid.
    1. Verdun
      Verdun 28 June 2016 16: 07
      +5
      Quote: EvgNik
      Well, following the beaten path of the states - expressing concern - is somehow not solid.

      Well, expressing concern is a normal world practice, so to speak, a necessary formality. Another thing is that during the Cold War there were cases when the ships of the sides were literally shoved by the sides. In addition, it is not clear from the text of the article whether such an approach of the American ship could damage Yaroslav the Wise. After all, the water area is an elastic concept. Offshore and at great depths - no problem. On a narrow and shallow fairway - a real security threat.
  • Forever so
    Forever so 28 June 2016 16: 00
    +15
    So here you are what AMERICAN VENGEA !!!))) They would have made a half-barrel under our guard. Imagine WHAT they are there Proud !!! Good guys in diapers))
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 28 June 2016 16: 26
      +5
      Quote: Forever so
      So here you are what AMERICAN VENGEA !!!))) They would have made a half-barrel under our guard. Imagine WHAT they are there Proud !!! Good guys in diapers))

      Well, the displacement is 2 times more. All so modern, powerful, controlled with two fingers. And if the bulk happened, then the repair in hundreds of lyamas stands. Earhooks.
      Well done against the sheep, against the done, the sheep himself.
      1. strannik595
        strannik595 28 June 2016 17: 14
        +3
        Well done against the sheep, against the done, the sheep himself.
        Are you sure that the crew of Yaroslav the Wise are sheep? I'm not ...... just someone wants to wait for a boarding + Russian salty fist in turnips)
  • Berkut24
    Berkut24 28 June 2016 16: 05
    +15
    It was necessary to continue rapprochement, as it was on the Black Sea in the last century. Then the Americans had enough for a long time. They still remember.
    1. Red_Hamer
      Red_Hamer 28 June 2016 16: 11
      +7
      Yes, there were times, they didn’t really tweak with them, they just sent them to their "destination", the commander's will was enough! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1OQb4xH3gU But then they went crazy, they entered our territorial waters! So ours showed that very "mother"!
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 28 June 2016 16: 45
        -7
        Quote: Red_Hamer
        Yes, there were times, they didn’t really tweak with them, they just sent them to their "destination", the commander's will was enough!

        What does the commander's will have to do with it? The decision to make the "bulk" was made at the highest level in the USSR. The commander carried out the order, risking the ship and the sailors. He could not fail to fulfill it. It's another matter why the Americans did not open fire on our ships. I would, as the commander of a ship attacked (bulk), would certainly have demolished the entire commander's superstructure to the "bulkhead". Perhaps he also received an order not to open fire.
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 28 June 2016 17: 13
          +12
          Quote: Алексей_К
          He probably also received orders not to open fire.


          Open fire on ships while in their territorial waters, nu-nu ...! Or do you think that all American captains are Faberge from titanium ?!
        2. Ajent cho
          Ajent cho 28 June 2016 20: 17
          0
          Quote: Алексей_К
          I would, as the commander of a ship attacked (bulk), would certainly have demolished the entire commander's superstructure to the "bulkhead"

          If grandmother had xyz, she would be grandfather.
          That is, to enter into other people's terror and start to naughty - is this, in your opinion, right? Hard case.
    2. joopel
      joopel 28 June 2016 16: 11
      +8
      Yes, it was a song! Such a fabulous bulk!
  • Engineer
    Engineer 28 June 2016 16: 06
    -8
    It was necessary to open the lids of the X-35 launch containers and the water around Gravley would be painted in a characteristic color.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 28 June 2016 16: 34
      +4
      Not. X-35 there is ballast, like Harpoons at Burke. There are distances in meters ... RCC will not take it, only if you do a bypass (TsU at 10 miles, followed by a turn at 180 and turning on the radar - further according to the standard). However, in this case it will not be up to the missiles anymore, and the missile will be shot after.

      At that distance, only the gun and MZA + machine guns.

      From the real, it was possible to give from a machine gun - a turn at the rate, or from Cortik. But this is a real aggravation. Plus, Burke has an 5 inch, which is much more dangerous and more productive than a hundredth.
  • gispanec
    gispanec 28 June 2016 16: 07
    -1
    it is strange that no one has written about diapers yet .... after all, when the reverse situevina - the idiots excitedly describe diapers ...
  • prior
    prior 28 June 2016 16: 07
    +8
    "Yaroslav the Wise" showed wisdom, and therefore the destroyer Gravely is still afloat.
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 28 June 2016 16: 51
      +1
      Quote: prior
      "Yaroslav the Wise" showed wisdom, and therefore the destroyer Gravely is still afloat.

      What are you writing nonsense. The captain of the ship "Yaroslav the Wise" showed no wisdom. In the Army and the Navy, orders from higher-ranking commanders are carried out. He does what he is ordered to do. In peacetime, captains will not make a step to the left or right without an order. During hostilities, they are given independence within the limits of the task being performed.
      1. bmv04636
        bmv04636 28 June 2016 16: 59
        -7
        you want to say when the "light elves" were rammed in the Black Sea there was such an order. I doubt something laughing
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 28 June 2016 17: 04
          +10
          Quote: bmv04636
          when the "light elves" were rammed in the Black Sea there was such an order. I doubt something

          Was, was.
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 28 June 2016 16: 09
    +3
    Quote: Black
    Lost, maybe.? Would you like to ask for a road? laughing

    Yeah, "how to get to the library"?
  • gg.na
    gg.na 28 June 2016 16: 12
    +1
    Cap of amerovsky destroyer: - "Halloween rush!"
    Captain of the RUSSIAN watchdog: -I don’t understand belay ! Like this, what sucks painted ??! Left side, am two torpedo attacks !!! "
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 28 June 2016 16: 13
    +6
    Well, Americans love to indulge in what can be done, although the brown eyes themselves are squeezed to the limit when we swim near them. These stories have probably happened since the fifties.
  • Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 28 June 2016 16: 13
    +2
    It was necessary to use an imitation of a tyrant or a bulk - they would see how bold the Yankees were.
    1. alexfin
      alexfin 28 June 2016 16: 22
      +1
      ... ram most likely ..
    2. AlexTires
      AlexTires 28 June 2016 16: 30
      -4
      It was necessary to use an imitation of a tyrant or a bulk - they would see how bold the Yankees were.

      ours disdained, because most likely the superstructure of the US destroyer was heroically behind .. by sailors even before the ship lay on another tack ... recourse
    3. PValery53
      PValery53 28 June 2016 16: 40
      0
      Tyrants wandered to you by accident.
    4. donavi49
      donavi49 28 June 2016 16: 40
      +7
      The ship is only out of repair. It's a pity. Plus, this Burke 2 series in the stern has nothing interesting, unlike the nose of the Wise.
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 28 June 2016 16: 50
        -4
        Plus, this Burke 2 series aft has nothing interesting, unlike the nose of the Wise.

        Here, please, in more detail, if possible hi
  • Mengad
    Mengad 28 June 2016 16: 16
    +8
    Revenge for the destroyer “Donald Cook” winked
  • Art777
    Art777 28 June 2016 16: 16
    -2
    And he started to run off test, when ours went across to him ..
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 28 June 2016 16: 55
      -4
      Quote: Art777
      At the same time, the Russian warship followed in international waters a constant course and speed and did not carry out any dangerous maneuvering with respect to the American ship.

      And you are an inventor, well, just like our journalists, Russian.
      Quote from the article: "At the same time, the Russian warship followed a constant course and speed in international waters and did not carry out any dangerous maneuvers in relation to the American ship."
  • kot423
    kot423 28 June 2016 16: 17
    +9
    Quote: gispanec
    it is strange that no one has written about diapers yet .... after all, when the reverse situevina - the idiots excitedly describe diapers ...

    Maybe you didn’t notice, but it seems we took the striped tactics. It is necessary to declare to the whole world that striped - and let them make excuses ... Example: scandal about Russian diplomats in mattress, now they (p.i.dosy) nervously say in the media that this is not so, it is in Russia all striped diplomats (with families) were forced to walk on a rope and to the toilet on a call ... :)
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 June 2016 16: 17
    +1
    Something about the past was so inspired ... Just like in the good old days, when our squadrons went through the Mediterranean one after another, periodically crossing the course dangerously or leaning in from the stern ... Ships are needed, many and different. Impudent Yankees.
  • atamankko
    atamankko 28 June 2016 16: 19
    +2
    Provocateurs, they are also provocateurs in the Mediterranean Sea.
  • izya top
    izya top 28 June 2016 16: 20
    +1
    begin to check the strength? find out if there is enough political leadership for a direct clash? the servicemen are ready angry
  • alexfin
    alexfin 28 June 2016 16: 21
    +3
    ..and maybe they wanted to say hello or exchange chewing gum for vodka ..
  • SeregaBoss
    SeregaBoss 28 June 2016 16: 22
    +1
    I think in vain our military told about this incident, well, it was, well, they forgot, and our captains should be ready for such "maneuvers". The one who laughs last laughs well! The Stars and Stripes don't know that?
  • Signal
    Signal 28 June 2016 16: 22
    0
    Video on the website of TK "Zvezda" http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201606281448-krym.htm
  • AlexTires
    AlexTires 28 June 2016 16: 23
    +19
    Americans - arrogant guys - go around without turn signals, as at home, I’m afraid I wouldn’t have to launch missiles without stoplights ...

    Even vidyuha is ....


    Submits the rear under the impact of the main gun direct fire. belay
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 28 June 2016 16: 31
      +13
      Quote: AlexTires
      Even vidyuha is ....

      In general, then, nothing dangerous, “Burke” and maybe more speed, and he had a head start. Simple maritime rudeness. request
      1. figwam
        figwam 28 June 2016 18: 22
        +1
        Apparently Pindocics got into the habit of exposing their ass.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 28 June 2016 16: 44
      +9
      Rather, they cut on overtaking.

      Burke 5 has an inch. Although from this angle, it is indeed possible to disassemble a half-ship, while they are turned to a degree, in order to answer with 5 inches.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 28 June 2016 16: 53
        +2
        Quote: donavi49
        Although in this perspective, it is indeed possible to disassemble a half-ship, while they are turned to a degree, to answer from 5 inches.

        While he twists, he already with AK-100 robust can be thrown.
      2. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 28 June 2016 18: 57
        +1
        Quote: donavi49
        Rather, they cut on overtaking.

        Burke 5 has an inch. Although from this angle, it is indeed possible to disassemble a half-ship, while they are turned to a degree, in order to answer with 5 inches.

        While it will turn it out and the nose gun will be demolished, at such a distance the missile weapons of the destroyer are useless, we win by cannon.
    3. KVIRTU
      KVIRTU 28 June 2016 17: 02
      +4
      What kind of people. No number, no flag.
    4. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 28 June 2016 18: 55
      -1
      Quote: AlexTires
      Submits the rear under the impact of the main gun direct fire.

      Alternatively, the nasal cannon could be turned towards the destroyer and left the rudder when leveled.
    5. ioann1
      ioann1 28 June 2016 20: 02
      +2
      Pure water provocation. They cannot forgive the Soviet rebuff in the Black Sea.

      Colonel General Leonid Ivashov: It seems that NATO is preparing for war with Russia

      - What is the purpose of such a war?

      - The Americans are doing everything to push Europe and Turkey with Russia. And unleash a big military conflict. For the United States, it is strategically important to stop the revival of Russia. After all, Russia is not just becoming an independent state, but a global geopolitical player. I would even say one of the geopolitical centers of the world. It becomes the “supporting structure” of the new world order. Americans are being squeezed out of vast space - Russia and China are already the main players there. And we remember that Brzezinski said in the early 90s: that Eurasia is a prize to the victor in the Cold War. And here in the USA this prize is being carried away from under the nose. Americans don’t like it.

      They do not like the fact that we began to return to the Arctic. This region also began to float away from them.

      Because the Americans are bustling. There is only one goal - to stop Russia.
    6. Joe stalin
      Joe stalin 28 June 2016 21: 13
      +1
      Obama's ass, and the ship has FOOD!
  • Sasha_Sar
    Sasha_Sar 28 June 2016 16: 24
    +3
    International Regulations for the Prevention of Collisions between Ships (COLREGs-71). For the author, not 71, but 72
    1. Karasik
      Karasik 28 June 2016 16: 41
      +1
      Quote: Sasha_Sar
      International Regulations for the Prevention of Collisions between Ships (COLREGs-71). For the author, not 71, but 72

      Great, colleague! I also immediately "hit my eyes" what kind of COLREGs-71 such that I have never heard of? Well, the COLREG-72 is the "Bible" for the navigator!
      1. Joe stalin
        Joe stalin 28 June 2016 16: 47
        0
        This is not the Bible, but traffic rules
      2. Sasha_Sar
        Sasha_Sar 30 June 2016 17: 03
        +1
        71 this is for "navigators"
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 28 June 2016 16: 25
    -2
    It looks like the team on the mattress trough was specially assembled from masochists.
    1. PValery53
      PValery53 28 June 2016 16: 37
      +1
      In general, they have there - BDSM.
  • russmensch
    russmensch 28 June 2016 16: 27
    0
    Lost seen Americans last years. They decided to scare us. So to refresh the memory, let these frames look at the frames. http://kobtv.narod.ru/documental/taran.html After all, they themselves filmed and shouted with horror then. Personnel February 12, 1988.
  • Enoch
    Enoch 28 June 2016 16: 29
    +5
    As children, they decided to drive out their sandbox in front of us in revenge for the passage of our aircraft. Dividends to the elections - Obama is fulfilling the order.
    1. Chukcha
      Chukcha 28 June 2016 19: 59
      +1
      I thought so too.
  • Dave36
    Dave36 28 June 2016 16: 29
    +1
    Yes, ours also went to the cut ... did not let the Amers relax!
    1. 3 Gorynych
      3 Gorynych 28 June 2016 16: 45
      +1
      Judging by the video, ours also decided to buttle !!
  • PValery53
    PValery53 28 June 2016 16: 31
    -1
    Of course, next time, let this American destroyer Gravely not substitute her side in order to avoid possible rescue operations on their side.
  • viktor.
    viktor. 28 June 2016 16: 34
    0
    why is it afloat? it would be necessary to catch up and drown so as not to stink laughing .
  • Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 28 June 2016 16: 35
    +3
    Who did they try to run into, the old man of Project 11540?
  • AlexTires
    AlexTires 28 June 2016 16: 36
    +1
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Simple sea rudeness.

    Definitely...
  • Titsen
    Titsen 28 June 2016 16: 40
    +5
    Where will Wiruz come from?
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 28 June 2016 16: 52
      0
      Pavlodar, Kazakhstan. I can send a picture with the latest local newspaper number hi
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner 28 June 2016 19: 39
        0
        Such excesses do not threaten you. laughing
  • pigkiller
    pigkiller 28 June 2016 16: 45
    +1
    Such situations were especially often provoked by the US Navy and aircraft during the Caribbean crisis.
  • Joe stalin
    Joe stalin 28 June 2016 16: 46
    0
    "violated the international rules for preventing collisions of ships (COLREGs-71). American sailors ignored rule 13 (" Overtaking ")" - to take away the captain's license to drive the ship and tow it to a fines!
  • pigkiller
    pigkiller 28 June 2016 16: 49
    +2
    Quote: gispanec
    it is strange that no one has written about diapers yet .... after all, when the reverse situevina - the idiots excitedly describe diapers ...
    So far, only you have written about diapers. Russian sailors are not required.
  • Koshak
    Koshak 28 June 2016 16: 51
    +1
    On the road (and not only) I usually wish this: that you get what you run into! Simply put, so you can do it right! tongue
  • HAM
    HAM 28 June 2016 16: 56
    +3
    Now the Americans will get the Purple Heart at least. The Rambs ...
  • gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 28 June 2016 16: 59
    +2
    Quote: Vladimirets
    If we ourselves are flying next to them, then we also need, respectively, to squeeze a point into a fist and work on, rather than start yelling at the whole world.

    I do not agree. Russian pilots acted near the borders of their state, if you talk about it. The Americans, provoking a collision of ships, did it far from their shores and risking the lives of several hundred people — irresponsible teenage behavior (bravado)!
    1. Victorio
      Victorio 28 June 2016 17: 52
      +1
      Quote: gladysheff2010
      Quote: Vladimirets
      If we ourselves are flying next to them, then we also need, respectively, to squeeze a point into a fist and work on, rather than start yelling at the whole world.

      I do not agree. Russian pilots acted near the borders of their state, if you talk about it. The Americans, provoking a collision of ships, did it far from their shores and risking the lives of several hundred people — irresponsible teenage behavior (bravado)!

      ====
      really, but what would be the reaction / action to the constant / frequent barrage of Russian ships off the coast of America?
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 28 June 2016 18: 01
        0
        Quote: Victorio
        constant / frequent barrage of Russian ships off the coast of America?

        Submarines are considered?
  • Titsen
    Titsen 28 June 2016 17: 05
    -2
    Amerikos decided to avenge a ram in the Black Sea during the Soviet era!
  • Titsen
    Titsen 28 June 2016 17: 09
    +1
    Why then
    Quote: Wiruz
    Pavlodar, Kazakhstan.
    so vicious against Russia?

    PS Photo is not necessary!
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 28 June 2016 17: 15
      -1
      so vicious against Russia?

      Excuse me, in what place did I “spitefully” speak about Russia ?! This has never happened! Another thing is that I have never hidden my extremely negative attitude towards the "urya-patriots" winked
  • Holsten
    Holsten 28 June 2016 17: 11
    -4
    We urgently need to conduct an exercise in the Mediterranean Sea with an underwater launch of "Caliber" - there are enough targets.
  • Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 28 June 2016 17: 14
    0
    Most readers perceive this case as arrogant behavior of Americans or as hooliganism in neutral waters.
    Neither one nor the other. In the event of a dangerous rapprochement of the ships, our ship had to turn on all military equipment to start hostilities. This was necessary for the Americans. They simply listened to all frequency ranges, all conversations, all sounds, tried to intercept and record secret information for the purpose of further decryption, so that in the event of a real war, either read or try to muffle all our radio frequencies and disarm the ship.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 28 June 2016 17: 21
      +1
      Just the same thing that our Drying, together with the Bastion, did in the Crimea, in 2014 hi
    2. Bramb
      Bramb 28 June 2016 17: 30
      +5
      And spare frequencies, like, no? And to find out these frequencies, went for a provocation? The captain, seeing a strange ship near, immediately switched to secret frequencies and calls the commander in chief?
      So naive that even I, the land one, do not believe in it.
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 28 June 2016 23: 06
        -2
        Quote: Bramb
        And spare frequencies, like, no? And to find out these frequencies, went for a provocation? The captain, seeing a strange ship near, immediately switched to secret frequencies and calls the commander in chief?
        So naive that even I, the land one, do not believe in it.

        When ours drowned out all the equipment from Donald Cook, then the Americans probably had spare frequencies, then you believed that the Americans had done it. And in this case, don’t believe that the Americans are listening to all frequency ranges, all conversations, all sounds, trying to intercept and record secret information with the aim of further decryption. I would like the Americans to know everything about our capabilities, are they spying or do you not believe in this?
        By the way, you land - the military has no secret frequencies, there are spare frequencies. And I’ll add, what then do scouts find out when flying along our borders. Really only poison the air with waste from the combustion of kerosene? Here are some hooligans. But ours, ours, then why are they chasing them, do they really want to take a boarding?
    3. keeper03
      keeper03 29 June 2016 01: 06
      -1
      It was reconnaissance "in force". Jackals are getting impudent every day!
  • Bramb
    Bramb 28 June 2016 17: 25
    0
    It seemed to me that ours began to turn quietly in his direction - and he fell to the side. To get a nose in the barrel - you can drown.
    Are the sailors here? What do you think?
    1. a housewife
      a housewife 29 June 2016 01: 02
      +1
      I, of course, am not a sailor, but I will never forget how the Admiral Nakhimov was sunk in Novorossiysk! The captains were too sure that they would disperse. Such distances are extremely dangerous!
  • beer-youk
    beer-youk 28 June 2016 17: 26
    -1
    Quote: gg.na
    Or both of them in one bottle!


    Rather, they are the same loshars as their pilots.
  • SerB60
    SerB60 28 June 2016 17: 33
    +1
    Quote: Wiruz
    You sir panic more)

    No one is panicking. More precisely, I definitely do not, for the rest I do not know.

    It's just that everyone here is so happy when the Su-24, according to tradition, imitates an attack on American destroyers, either in the Black Sea or the Baltic. All this happens in neutral waters, albeit near Russia. And after all, few people understand that American ships, in this case, have every right to shoot down our aircraft.

    And now here is a similar situation, although it is not an imitation of an attack on our ship. Read the comments: everyone around is unhappy with the action of the American destroyer. How does is called? An hour not "double standards ?! winked

    "They have the right to knock down ..." Why are you smoking, sick?
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 28 June 2016 17: 41
      -7
      Blue Rosemans. But from the salary I pamper myself with the Silver Parliament.

      Do you think that flying over a warship of one country with a military plane of another country is not enough reason for the first to have the right to shoot down the second? While the action takes place in neutral waters hi
      1. SerB60
        SerB60 28 June 2016 17: 52
        +3
        It is good that you are not the commander of the Pavlodar, or God forbid, the American fleet.
        What is the internationally justified right to bring down aircraft flying over a ship in neutral waters. Link to the studio.
        1. Wiruz
          Wiruz 28 June 2016 18: 11
          +1
          http://flot.com/law/sealaw/isl.htm#5

          The fifth section. Twelfth paragraph below. Maybe there is something else written there, but I'm tired of reading something
          1. SerB60
            SerB60 29 June 2016 08: 36
            +1
            International law has traditionally recognized the coastal state the right to pursue or arrest in the open sea a foreign ship that violated its laws and regulations while the ship was in inland waters, the territorial sea or the adjacent zone of that state. This right is also extended by the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea to violations of the laws and regulations of a coastal state relating to the continental shelf and the exclusive economic zone. The pursuit must be conducted in hot pursuit, that is, it can begin when the intruder is respectively in the inland waters, the territorial sea, the adjacent zone, in the waters covering the continental shelf, or in the exclusive economic zone of the coastal state, and should be carried out continuously. In this case, the pursuit of "hot pursuit" ends as soon as the pursued ship enters the territorial sea of ​​his country or third state. Continuing the persecution in a foreign territorial sea would be incompatible with the sovereignty of the state to which this sea belongs.
            Fifth Section, Twelfth Paragraph Bottom of International Law of the Sea. Where's the right to shoot down flying planes, mr, umm ... like, telling a lie?
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  • Kibl
    Kibl 28 June 2016 17: 34
    +1
    So not in the first, American capes think of themselves as horse jockeys. During the times of the USSR in our Baltic countries they also forced, but as soon as our plane showed up, they only saw them.
  • sergey2017
    sergey2017 28 June 2016 17: 35
    +6
    Quote: Mercenary
    "Take away rights" and evacuate the vehicle to a fine parking!

    You can, of course, humor as much as you like about this, but before the Americans did not "joke" with our Navy ships! Apparently, the Americans consider the presence of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean Sea unacceptable, thus they want to show their privileged right! This is all reminiscent of the behavior of a courtyard bully, do not walk around my yard, and if you do, do not forget who is in charge here. For the stupid Americans it has not yet reached that the Russian Navy did not come to the Mediterranean Sea to visit, but returned "as if it were home" and will be here permanently! And "hooligans" must be taught rigidly, within the limits of course reasonable!
    1. goblin xnumx
      goblin xnumx 28 June 2016 18: 09
      +2
      he returned — home — how loud — that is when the para-cruisers and heels of full-fledged destroyers return — then it will be possible to say that it is possible to go through the yard — and then — rather than dictate, the behavior was corrected — the fleet is still weak against the amers ...
    2. drunkram
      drunkram 29 June 2016 06: 42
      0
      You might think this is a problem, we wanted to spit what they consider in their place not acceptable request
  • tundra
    tundra 28 June 2016 17: 36
    -3
    Quote: razmik72
    This time the captain’s nerves were stronger.

    Yes, it was necessary without shooting, just put the art installation on the navigation bridge.
    How long would they then launder it.
    1. goblin xnumx
      goblin xnumx 28 June 2016 18: 11
      +2
      you are so naive, but don’t you think that a submarine could be present nearby? - we’ll scream everyone and give examples of actions from history- (not ours) - easily- although I'm glad that you are not on the bridge with your manners ...: )
    2. sergey2017
      sergey2017 28 June 2016 18: 24
      0
      One could act like in the Black Sea in 1988! There was another situation then, the question was about determining the boundary of territorial waters, namely: the line from which the 12-mile zone of territorial waters should be counted. In the United States, it was argued that counting should be from every point on the coastline. The Soviet Union adhered to the principle of the so-called “baseline”: for example, when determining the territorial water zone in the bays, the distance to the border was counted not from the coastline, but from the line connecting the inlet capes of the bays. The question was fundamental! American cruiser "Yorktown" in the territorial zone!
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 29 June 2016 00: 00
        +2
        Quote: sergey2017
        The commander of the TFR "Bezavavetny" literally pushed the American cruiser "Yorktown" into the territorial zone!

        This became possible because these ships have almost the same speed. Our "Yaroslav the Wise" has a speed lower than that of the destroyer "Gravely". The video clearly shows how the amerikos cut off our ship, overtaking it, and went to the side.
    3. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 28 June 2016 23: 48
      +1
      Quote: tundra
      Quote: razmik72
      This time the captain’s nerves were stronger.

      Yes, it was necessary without shooting, just put the art installation on the navigation bridge.
      How long would they then launder it.

      And I think the other way around, if our watchman only tried to start shelling, the destroyer, as a more powerful and more armed ship, would destroy our watchdog and from our ship only any junk would float on the surface of the water. This we call this class of ships - the destroyer, and the Americans call their ships - destroyer, i.e. destroyer, fighter, not destroyer.
      This destroyer has a displacement of more than 2 times greater than that of our guard, and there are enough weapons to destroy several guard patrols, and the speed is higher, it is not for nothing that in the video it cropped so easily and sidestepped. Our guard was simply unable to catch up with him. Unfortunately, modern American destroyers are better than our watchdogs.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 29 June 2016 00: 09
        +1
        Quote: Алексей_К
        And I think the other way around, if our watchman only tried to start shelling, then the destroyer, as a more powerful and more armed ship, would destroy our watchdog and from our ship only any junk would float on the surface of the water.

        Do you really think that within a radius of 300-500 miles there were no more our warships and not only surface ships? If an American would only try to rock the boat, he would be 100% likely to feed the fish with the whole crew.
        Quote: Алексей_К
        This destroyer has a displacement of more than 2 times more than that of our guard, and there are enough weapons to destroy several of the guard,

        The navel doesn’t get loose, then some watchdogs drown alone? The arsenal of our RTOs is not at all toy.
        Quote: Алексей_К
        Unfortunately, modern American destroyers are better than our watchdogs.

        You are not comparing the comparable. With the same success, you can compare the BTR with MBT ...
  • afrikanez
    afrikanez 28 June 2016 17: 38
    -6
    This is certainly not the Black Sea, but the bulk could have been repeated, otherwise they probably forgot already. lol
    1. sergey2017
      sergey2017 28 June 2016 18: 33
      +1
      This is not forgotten! One captain of the second rank of the Navy said that such situations in seafarers in the classroom are sorted out to the smallest detail! One wrong step and all!
  • S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 28 June 2016 17: 40
    +9
    I didn’t see anything extraordinary, all the more "blatant" (here is the word Klintsevich quoted, just some hysterical one). Passed and passed. Hopefully, in such cases, the necessary actions have been thought out a long time ago (for example, putting weapons on alert, target designation for missile armament and main battery, or other), which cool the enemy's heads as much as possible. In general, our patrol boat did not even change its course and direction. This is correct.
    And as V. Kamoyedov (ex-commander-in-chief of the Black Sea Fleet) correctly noted, “The incident with the destroyer of the US Navy is not worthy of attention and relevant comments”
    1. goblin xnumx
      goblin xnumx 28 June 2016 18: 12
      +5
      I agree with you and with the ex-commander in chief :)
  • SerB60
    SerB60 28 June 2016 17: 44
    0
    Quote: SerB60
    Quote: Wiruz
    You sir panic more)

    No one is panicking. More precisely, I definitely do not, for the rest I do not know.

    It's just that everyone here is so happy when the Su-24, according to tradition, imitates an attack on American destroyers, either in the Black Sea or the Baltic. All this happens in neutral waters, albeit near Russia. And after all, few people understand that American ships, in this case, have every right to shoot down our aircraft.

    And now here is a similar situation, although it is not an imitation of an attack on our ship. Read the comments: everyone around is unhappy with the action of the American destroyer. How does is called? An hour not "double standards ?! winked

    "They have the right to knock down ..." Why are you smoking, sick?

    And what, minus is easier to slap than to answer in essence? So I will ask again: by what right in international waters do Americans "have every right to shoot down" our planes?
    Even with imitation of attacks, even with a "dangerous approach" to ships?