Media: in Syria, "moderate opposition" attacked government helicopters with the help of the air defense system "Wasp"

The US-supported Jaish al-Islam group, which classifies itself as the Syrian opposition, from the territory of the oasis of Ghuta used against the government aviation anti-aircraft complex 9K33 "Wasp", reports Messenger of Mordovia.

“As a result of the attack, one of the Syrian helicopter gunships was damaged, but returned safely to the base. Judging by the video footage that appeared on the network, the militants during the attack directed the missile at the target using a television-optical viewfinder, ”writes publication author Roman Katkov.

He notes that "Wasp" is dangerous. weaponscapable of hitting targets at a distance of 9 km and an altitude of 5km. The weight of the missile warhead - 15 kg.

“Military experts believe that the appearance of this complex is the help of foreign sponsors. Earlier it was reported that one Osa captured by terrorists had already been destroyed by the Russian VKS forces, now this air defense system has appeared again, ”writes Katkov.

Recall that in April, Moscow offered the UN to recognize the Jaish al-Islam grouping as a terrorist organization, but the United States, France and Britain blocked this initiative.

Comments

[Khariton]

Started....! Erdogan is sorry ...
Parashenko, I think, will also give an order to attack the Donbass! Russia needs to be punished for its integrity and steadfastness ... Forward mongrel! Fas ..!

[Observer2014]

Khariton RU Today, 11:00 AM New
Started....! Erdogan is sorry ...

Didn't Ukraine give the "last shirt" to the brothers? Well, Erdogan handed it over. Dog.

[Wiruz]

Jaish al-Islam

Since when has Jaish al-Islam become a moderate opposition? The fact that she is fighting, among others, and against ISIS, does not make her moderate

[Karasik]

Quote: Wiruz

Since when has Jaish al-Islam become a moderate opposition? The fact that she is fighting, among others, and against ISIS, does not make her moderate

Yes, any opposition that defends their interests with arms in their hands against a legitimate government is terrorists. What else could be the interpretation ?!

[Wiruz]

Yes, any opposition that defends their interests with arms in their hands against a legitimate government is terrorists. What else could be the interpretation ?!

I do not agree! Who then do you think are the Kurds? Also chtoli terrorists?

[Karasik]

Quote: Wiruz

I do not agree! Who then do you think are the Kurds? Also chtoli terrorists?

Well, in general, the Kurds are at war with a government that almost openly supports ISIS terrorists. That is, with the terrorist government of Turkey. Therefore, we are wary of calling them terrorists. But legally (as sad as it is, and despite our sympathy for them), then yes - terrorists, but "revolutionaries" will sound more beautiful. As for the LPNR, everything is like a Christmas tree: the Kiev junta seized power illegally, and trampling the Constitution used the army against its own population. This means that the actions of the LDNR against the junta can be considered justified and in no way terrorist.

[cniza]

To crush all who have not laid down their arms and oppose the legitimate authority and not look back at anyone.

[gg.na]

Quote: cniza

Crush everyone who hasn't laid down their arms

Burn this abomination and filth under the name ... Yes, it does not matter the name they are rotten igil and there are no other names for them! Crush! Burn with fire and iron! Until molecules break up !!!

[Mahmut]

One thing is not clear - how the helicopter could withstand the impact of a 15 kilogram warhead. After all, this is 5 times more than that of the Stingers.

[aksakal]

Quote: Mahmut

One thing is not clear - how the helicopter could withstand the impact of a 15 kilogram warhead. After all, this is 5 times more than that of the Stingers.

- The wasp is not the best SAM. And there was no direct hit - only in this case the helicopter could withstand the blow of the Wasp. As I understood it from SAJ, the air defense of the SAM was self-made, which means that there was no necessary accuracy. Stingers and Arrows hit vehicles only in the event of a direct hit, and even with the introduction deep into the apparatus in the area of ​​dvigla

[Parsec]

The Wasp missile never hits the target, it has a radio fuse.

The accuracy of the guidance is indeed lower than on the original; perhaps escort in a semiautomatic device by an understated calculation.
The firing range on all frames of about 6 km is visible, which is why.

The thermal imager does not take at long ranges, they simply will not get there. And they have not been set up for SSC and it is unclear with the adjustment.

Which complex do you think is the best?

[VOEVODA]

your knowledge in the field of missiles and military defense is unsuccessful. Yet there is such a concept, undermining the target. And no one is being introduced anywhere.

[Parsec]

On Strela-2 missiles, -2M, -3 warheads are detonated by an inertial hit sensor when hit by a target, there is no detonation in the target area.

The Igla missiles have a penetration sensor (highlighted in red in the figure), when hit, when the hit sensor passes through the skin, the PIM is triggered, undermining the warhead and engine. If there was no signal from the penetration sensor, detonation occurs from the inertial hit sensor.

You would have checked the teacher’s diploma before you fail. And it would be better to read the materiel.

[mehanik27]

The sensor is induction ... induction it))))

[Parsec]

What kind of sensor are you talking about?

Function and principle do not distinguish?

[Parsec]

Only a big miss due to poor machine readiness and calculation.

Well, we saw the chronicle - the plane flies in, there are 300 holes in it.
After landing the plane for parts. But they hit him 300 times.

When the Wasp rocket is detonated 3 ... 5 m from the target, a stream of fragments cuts the target. In the case of helicopters, the blunder is clearly more - they point at the thermal imager with their hands, but they can’t do it very well.

[g1v2]

And what is not what? The explosions in Turkey are not terrorism? It's just that now the Kurds are relatively "friendly" terrorists to us, like the IRA or the Red Brigades, for example. But this did not stop them being terrorists. Now, if they win, like the Jews, for example, who blew up the hotel in their time, they will become freedom fighters and founders of the nation and country.
All serious countries use subversive elements in enemy countries, distancing themselves, but helping them when it is beneficial. However, there are groups and movements that are dangerous to everyone, and it is these groups that are included in the lists by the UN Security Council. Moreover, only one country is many times more terrorist groups listed. For the rest, these are militants or rebels depending on their interests. Hezbollah is the same terrorists for Israel, but for us rebels or militias.
By the way, in vain Israel does not use the moment - it has a good opportunity to negotiate with Russia on the recognition of Hamas as such a group. They betrayed Syria, having sided with the Turks against Syria and now they are not interesting to us. Could and agree.

[pig killer]

They are trying to repeat the Afghan experience of the Stingers now with the Wasps in Syria.

[2224460]

I agree with you, Erdogan will still "PASS"

[Observer2014]

2224460 (1) KZ Today, 11:18 ↑
I agree with you, Erdogan will still "PASS"

I respect people on the site who can read between the lines!

[gg.na]

Quote: Observer2014

Well, Erdogan handed over. Dog.

Gee-gee-gee-gee !!! I can’t laugh, damn PE-E-E-E-REDA-a-a-all !!! Gee gee gee TRANSFER !!!

[Lukich]

Quote: Observer2014

? Well, Erdogan handed over. Dog.

[Volodin Dmitry]

Almost 60 years old picture, but relevant !!! You +

[Maksus]

Apologized. And also a Russian man, ashamed of you, Hariton.

[absurdity]

There’s nothing to worry about - we’ll find fault with the grammar. Typical of a dummy-dialer.

[Maksus]

Answer for your mmmmm, well let there be a cry?
Uncle, if you are Russian, then learn to write and speak correctly, otherwise you are a stranger and so understandable? Minus catch, dvoechnik)

[Pavel1]

how did the Basmachis learn OSU so suddenly, because it’s not a saddle to ride Apparently the wasp was captured along with the crew. It is necessary for our air force to arrange a hunt for this repainted wasp.

[OlegYola]

The Turk gave the word, took the word

[nik-karata]

Still, the recent news turned out to be not a chatter (((sponsors are bad, they’re not happy that the Babaev got air defense systems, oh, not happy!

[sub307]

I agree .... What is there to "rejoice", a direct threat to aviation, working against the opposition.

[Lukich]

Quote: sub307

I agree .... What is there to "rejoice", a direct threat to aviation, working against the opposition.

Yes, it’s not for nothing that our VKS operate at altitudes of 5 km.

[Joe stalin]

Perdogan apologizes in full

[razmik72]

Quote: Joe Stalin

Perdogan apologizes in full

"Wasp" could have been transferred not only by Erdogan, dozens of countries are interested in the defeat of government troops in Syria, and this air defense system is a fairly common weapon.

[Observer2014]

razmik72

"Wasp" could have been transferred not only by Erdogan, dozens of countries are interested in the defeat of government troops in Syria, and this air defense system is a fairly common weapon.

Well, here "love" for the Turks with the Armenians can not be argued. This is a fact.
Well, at the expense of this "Wasp" That our special operations forces and cards in hand. Find out what kind of "Wasp" and where.

[donavi49]

Wasp from the regiment of the Assad air defense system - back in 2014. I cited both videos below (one yesterday, one 2014) - the remotes are the same, that is, a combination of Arabic and Russian, stickers in Russian, condition of bolts, pens, etc. These small details, no one would have faked.

This is where they got the Missiles from, this is really a question of questions. All captured ammunition (6 missiles) they fired in the 2014 year. They didn’t capture new ones, especially in recent months; Jays didn’t have a lot of trophies with them. The only places where the missiles were captured were black in DeZ, but there were also Cubes, as well as BB.

In fact, surely overseas Allah helped.

[DHA]

Quote: donavi49

This is where they got the Missiles from, this is really a question of questions.

Missiles are easier to put, well-wishers in the west are missing.

[gg.na]

Quote: Observer2014

. Find out what kind of "Wasp" and where.

Yes, specialists will vychemit this "wasp" and destroy the pancake!

[Observer2014]

gg.na

Yes, specialists will vychemit this "wasp" and destroy the pancake!

Destroy, it is not discussed. Here's what a bastard, she (Osu) put there. How Gorbachev "expressed himself" That's where "The dog rummaged" ?!

[Parsec]

Quote: razmik72

"Wasp" could be transferred not only by Erdogan

Where does Erdogan Osa come from?
Wasp is a common weapon, but still not AKM.
For passing by the UN arms register, you can fall under UN sanctions.

[samoletil18]

What are the UN sanctions? US headquarters. One of the permanent members of the US Security Council. Turkey is a member of NATO, where the United States rules everything. Supports materially and morally "moderate" opposition to the United States.
A simple example: on our roads the so-called latent traffic violations only for officials, prosecutors, judges, etc. are also exceptional, like the United States on the world stage. And what will help besides physical destruction? I do not mean individuals, but a phenomenon.

[Dr. Stein]

It's good that at least they found it, now they’ll cover it.

[Wiruz]

Believe it or not? But tonight I dreamed about another missile strike of the Caspian Flotilla against terrorists in Syria. I also think: "What is it for?"

[Gvas1174]

[istealth]

Until the flies begin to fall, no one will even lift a finger. Moderate, in the ass will kiss and liberate

[HAM]

"The United States, France and Britain have blocked this initiative."
It is necessary to block too, only missiles.

[Rom14]

The strange position of Russia - to kill the bandits need an initiative. Approved by the bandit countries ??? Apparently, the shell shock did not pass without a trace, I don't understand a damn thing about "politics" ...

[razmik72]

Quote: Rom14

The strange position of Russia - to kill the bandits need an initiative. Approved by the bandit countries ??? Apparently, the shell shock did not pass without a trace, I don't understand a damn thing about "politics" ...

Nikolai, there are hundreds of groups operating in Syria under the patronage of someone, it is not realistic to kill everyone, Russia in this part of the world does not have so much money and strength to “kill” everyone.

[Primipilus]

Using a television optical sight, the terrorists minimized the detection of the installation.

[Parsec]

This is not a television optical sight, this is a thermal imager.

They did not minimize anything, 0:02 ... 0:08 included a high voltage of the target tracking station.

[dsm100]

They still had to be taught to use all this good. This is not "a trifle in your pockets".

[pig killer]

The supply is Ukrainian, the instructors are also from there.

[samoletil18]

I do not like the Polish leadership no less than Ukrainian. What is not from there?
Suspects m. tens. Where "Wasps" just were not supplied. Just remember about the former USSR and the Department of Internal Affairs!
And so you can get the answer: "What is your evidence?"

[AID.S]

Quote: pigkiller

The supply is Ukrainian, the instructors are also from there.

Do you have information or is it just blah blah blah? It is more logical to assume that the Jordanian supply, the Wasps were delivered there.

[Yarik]

“Military experts believe that the appearance of this complex is the help of foreign sponsors.

These same sponsors this very "Wasp" in the train. would insert.

[ibu355yandex.ru]

To hammer all this "moderate opposition" that did not join the ceasefire regime! All normal oppositionists support the ceasefire and hostilities, because they really think about changing the situation peacefully. And all these henchmen of the amerikosy carry out their assigned task - to destroy Assad, and at the same time to destroy Syria into specific principalities! The principle of divide and conquer in all its glory!

[akvanavt98]

yeah, Sunshine.

[Mountain shooter]

They were afraid to work with the radar - you can immediately get "in the crown". And optics is such a thing - you need to be able to.
In general, not a horse feed. But to "calculate" the supply channel of this "Wasp", and where it came from - this is important.

[Yak-3P]

yes declare war on Jordan then they will sweat ..

[donavi49]

The machine is old, 2014 of the year - then it shot all 6 missiles (in the video) and shot down 3 LA. She was never destroyed, despite a dozen statements.

Oh, that this is an old Syrian air defense system, even localization says, you can compare the 2014 Wasps themselves:


And this one:


Characteristic scuffs - a combination of Arabic and Russian (with stickers in Arabic), damage - they say that the complex is one.

That brought new missiles, yes. The question is how many are there.

[Yak-3P]

attacked at night - and at night the current probably ours fly .. here and the caliber is not a pity .. go and there such a hunt is arranged no matter how hard the Jordanians

[rotmistr60]

The United States, France and Britain blocked this initiative.

It’s clear with the Americans and the Britons, but France probably hasn’t yet received its portion in the form of terrorist attacks. It may be cynical, but this idea begs for itself. The president of a country that has already been repeatedly attacked to serve the Anglo-Saxons, blocks the initiative to be recognized as a terrorist organization.

[cap]

Quote: rotmistr60

The United States, France and Britain blocked this initiative.

It’s clear with the Americans and the Britons, but France probably hasn’t yet received its portion in the form of terrorist attacks. It may be cynical, but this idea begs for itself. The president of a country that has already been repeatedly attacked to serve the Anglo-Saxons, blocks the initiative to be recognized as a terrorist organization.

"to serve the Anglo-Saxons"?
What kind of service is this?
Let him go as a sapper to work, then he can understand what it is.
This is me about the paddling pool.
Clearly, Americans are worried about their offspring, the British are not a question, but ... Frenchman, this is too much.
Although if you recall Sarkozy who wrote off Gaddafi’s debts, with the hands of special forces and airstrikes under the guise of the States, I’m not surprised at anything.
The politicians present in Europe are just the long arm of the State Department.

[HMR333]

it's time to stop tsatskatsa with them to send amers away since they cannot "divide" them into the mind and not the moderates and once violates to beat nafig! and the installation could take a lot of them everywhere in Libya

[Berkut24]

What nonsense in the article! Guta is an isolated and surrounded on all sides by the CAA site near Damascus. Now tell me HOW another whole complex could get through the territory controlled by the SAA and dotted with roadblocks ?!

[donavi49]

The environment in Syria is possible only in very limited volumes, that is, the level of the village and 2 roads.

The rest is only on the Map.

In the Rastan enclave, a couple of thousand bearded men with TOUs and tanks marched on and went on the offensive on Hama, which was hardly repelled, that week. And there, too, from all sides, Assad’s troops and many kilometers to the nearest broads.

[avg-mgn]

The wasp was also supplied to Syria 50 sets, and earlier it was reported that the militants repeatedly seized warehouses, perhaps then leaked.
http://www.pravda.ru/news/world/asia/middleeast/13-03-2016/1294957-syria-0/

[Kibl]

In my usual disa.

[donavi49]

So there is video and photo, above. Moreover, this is a new launch, it does not look like the 6 of the previous launches (which were also shot all on the camera in 2014).

[BOB044]

Do not wait but destroy. All these groups. Further it will be worse, we decide for ourselves who is friend and who is enemy.

[Wolka]

it’s not clear to me where our satellites (... pcs.) look in Syria, the Wasp is not an apple, you won’t put it in your pocket, and the S-400 is not blind however, all this is wonderful right ...

[Leto]

Quote: Volka

Yes, and the S-400 is not blind, however

What does the S-400 have to do with it? What side is it here? For you, the S-400 is a kind of prodigy capable of solving any problem?

[R-22]

it would be necessary to outbid these barmaley, so that they would be planted on the Yankees from this zrk, you look, they would calm down for a while