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Media: in Syria, "moderate opposition" attacked government helicopters with the help of the air defense system "Wasp"

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The US-supported Jaish al-Islam group, which classifies itself as the Syrian opposition, from the territory of the oasis of Ghuta used against the government aviation anti-aircraft complex 9K33 "Wasp", reports Messenger of Mordovia.


Media: in Syria, "moderate opposition" attacked government helicopters with the help of the air defense system "Wasp"


“As a result of the attack, one of the Syrian helicopter gunships was damaged, but returned safely to the base. Judging by the video footage that appeared on the network, the militants during the attack directed the missile at the target using a television-optical viewfinder, ”writes publication author Roman Katkov.







He notes that "Wasp" is dangerous. weaponscapable of hitting targets at a distance of 9 km and an altitude of 5km. The weight of the missile warhead - 15 kg.

“Military experts believe that the appearance of this complex is the help of foreign sponsors. Earlier it was reported that one Osa captured by terrorists had already been destroyed by the Russian VKS forces, now this air defense system has appeared again, ”writes Katkov.

Recall that in April, Moscow offered the UN to recognize the Jaish al-Islam grouping as a terrorist organization, but the United States, France and Britain blocked this initiative.
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  1. Khariton
    Khariton 28 June 2016 11: 00
    0
    Started....! Erdogan is sorry ...
    Parashenko, I think, will also give an order to attack the Donbass! Russia needs to be punished for its integrity and steadfastness ... Forward mongrel! Fas ..!
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 28 June 2016 11: 04
      +15
      Khariton hi RU Today, 11:00 AM New
      Started....! Erdogan is sorry ...

      Didn't Ukraine give the "last shirt" to the brothers? Well, Erdogan handed it over. Dog.
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 28 June 2016 11: 08
        +11
        Jaish al-Islam

        Since when has Jaish al-Islam become a moderate opposition? The fact that she is fighting, among others, and against ISIS, does not make her moderate fool
        1. Karasik
          Karasik 28 June 2016 11: 12
          +16
          Quote: Wiruz
          Since when has Jaish al-Islam become a moderate opposition? The fact that she is fighting, among others, and against ISIS, does not make her moderate

          Yes, any opposition that defends their interests with arms in their hands against a legitimate government is terrorists. What else could be the interpretation ?!
          1. Wiruz
            Wiruz 28 June 2016 11: 18
            0
            Yes, any opposition that defends their interests with arms in their hands against a legitimate government is terrorists. What else could be the interpretation ?!

            I do not agree! Who then do you think are the Kurds? Also chtoli terrorists?
            1. Karasik
              Karasik 28 June 2016 11: 36
              +18
              Quote: Wiruz
              I do not agree! Who then do you think are the Kurds? Also chtoli terrorists?

              Well, in general, the Kurds are at war with a government that almost openly supports ISIS terrorists. That is, with the terrorist government of Turkey. Therefore, we are wary of calling them terrorists. But legally (as sad as it is, and despite our sympathy for them), then yes - terrorists, but "revolutionaries" will sound more beautiful. As for the LPNR, everything is like a Christmas tree: the Kiev junta seized power illegally, and trampling the Constitution used the army against its own population. This means that the actions of the LDNR against the junta can be considered justified and in no way terrorist.
              1. cniza
                cniza 28 June 2016 11: 54
                +9
                To crush all who have not laid down their arms and oppose the legitimate authority and not look back at anyone.
                1. gg.na
                  gg.na 28 June 2016 13: 14
                  0
                  Quote: cniza
                  Crush everyone who hasn't laid down their arms

                  Burn this abomination and filth under the name ... Yes, it does not matter the name they are rotten igil and there are no other names for them! Crush! Burn with fire and iron! Until molecules break up !!! am
                  1. Mahmut
                    Mahmut 28 June 2016 13: 45
                    +1
                    One thing is not clear - how the helicopter could withstand the impact of a 15 kilogram warhead. After all, this is 5 times more than that of the Stingers.
                    1. aksakal
                      aksakal 28 June 2016 20: 52
                      0
                      Quote: Mahmut
                      One thing is not clear - how the helicopter could withstand the impact of a 15 kilogram warhead. After all, this is 5 times more than that of the Stingers.

                      - The wasp is not the best SAM. And there was no direct hit - only in this case the helicopter could withstand the blow of the Wasp. As I understood it from SAJ, the air defense of the SAM was self-made, which means that there was no necessary accuracy. Stingers and Arrows hit vehicles only in the event of a direct hit, and even with the introduction deep into the apparatus in the area of ​​dvigla
                      1. Parsec
                        Parsec 28 June 2016 21: 10
                        0
                        The Wasp missile never hits the target, it has a radio fuse.

                        The accuracy of the guidance is indeed lower than on the original; perhaps escort in a semiautomatic device by an understated calculation.
                        The firing range on all frames of about 6 km is visible, which is why.

                        The thermal imager does not take at long ranges, they simply will not get there. And they have not been set up for SSC and it is unclear with the adjustment.

                        Which complex do you think is the best?
                      2. VOEVODA
                        VOEVODA 28 June 2016 22: 08
                        0
                        your knowledge in the field of missiles and military defense is unsuccessful. Yet there is such a concept, undermining the target. And no one is being introduced anywhere.
                      3. Parsec
                        Parsec 28 June 2016 23: 13
                        +4
                        On Strela-2 missiles, -2M, -3 warheads are detonated by an inertial hit sensor when hit by a target, there is no detonation in the target area.

                        The Igla missiles have a penetration sensor (highlighted in red in the figure), when hit, when the hit sensor passes through the skin, the PIM is triggered, undermining the warhead and engine. If there was no signal from the penetration sensor, detonation occurs from the inertial hit sensor.

                        You would have checked the teacher’s diploma before you fail. And it would be better to read the materiel.
                      4. mehanik27
                        mehanik27 28 June 2016 23: 31
                        +1
                        The sensor is induction ... induction it))))
                      5. Parsec
                        Parsec 29 June 2016 00: 35
                        0
                        What kind of sensor are you talking about?

                        Function and principle do not distinguish?
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              2. Parsec
                Parsec 28 June 2016 21: 20
                0
                Only a big miss due to poor machine readiness and calculation.

                Well, we saw the chronicle - the plane flies in, there are 300 holes in it.
                After landing the plane for parts. But they hit him 300 times.

                When the Wasp rocket is detonated 3 ... 5 m from the target, a stream of fragments cuts the target. In the case of helicopters, the blunder is clearly more - they point at the thermal imager with their hands, but they can’t do it very well.
      2. g1v2
        g1v2 28 June 2016 13: 14
        +3
        And what is not what? The explosions in Turkey are not terrorism? It's just that now the Kurds are relatively "friendly" terrorists to us, like the IRA or the Red Brigades, for example. But this did not stop them being terrorists. Now, if they win, like the Jews, for example, who blew up the hotel in their time, they will become freedom fighters and founders of the nation and country. request
        All serious countries use subversive elements in enemy countries, distancing themselves, but helping them when it is beneficial. However, there are groups and movements that are dangerous to everyone, and it is these groups that are included in the lists by the UN Security Council. Moreover, only one country is many times more terrorist groups listed. For the rest, these are militants or rebels depending on their interests. Hezbollah is the same terrorists for Israel, but for us rebels or militias. hi
        By the way, in vain Israel does not use the moment - it has a good opportunity to negotiate with Russia on the recognition of Hamas as such a group. They betrayed Syria, having sided with the Turks against Syria and now they are not interesting to us. Could and agree. wink
  2. pigkiller
    pigkiller 28 June 2016 11: 13
    +2
    They are trying to repeat the Afghan experience of the Stingers now with the Wasps in Syria.
  • 2224460
    2224460 28 June 2016 11: 18
    +13
    I agree with you, Erdogan will still "PASS"
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 28 June 2016 12: 44
      +4
      2224460 (1) KZ Today, 11:18 ↑
      I agree with you, Erdogan will still "PASS"

      I respect people on the site who can read between the lines! bully good
  • gg.na
    gg.na 28 June 2016 13: 17
    +1
    Quote: Observer2014
    Well, Erdogan handed over. Dog.

    good Gee-gee-gee-gee !!! wassat I can’t laugh, damn PE-E-E-E-REDA-a-a-all !!! Gee gee gee laughing TRANSFER !!! good wassat laughing
  • Lukich
    Lukich 28 June 2016 13: 23
    +13
    Quote: Observer2014
    ? Well, Erdogan handed over. Dog.
    1. Volodin Dmitry
      Volodin Dmitry 28 June 2016 17: 09
      +3
      Almost 60 years old picture, but relevant !!! You +
  • Maksus
    Maksus 28 June 2016 11: 19
    +1
    Apologized. And also a Russian man, ashamed of you, Hariton.
    1. Absurdidat
      Absurdidat 28 June 2016 18: 48
      -2
      There’s nothing to worry about - we’ll find fault with the grammar. Typical of a dummy-dialer.
      1. Maksus
        Maksus 28 June 2016 20: 46
        0
        Answer for your mmmmm, well let there be a cry?
        Uncle, if you are Russian, then learn to write and speak correctly, otherwise you are a stranger and so understandable? Minus catch, dvoechnik)
  • Pavel1
    Pavel1 28 June 2016 13: 07
    +2
    how did the Basmachis learn OSU so suddenly, because it’s not a saddle to ride Apparently the wasp was captured along with the crew. It is necessary for our air force to arrange a hunt for this repainted wasp.
  • OlegYOla
    OlegYOla 28 June 2016 18: 38
    +1
    The Turk gave the word, took the word am
  • nik-karata
    nik-karata 28 June 2016 11: 01
    +6
    Still, the recent news turned out to be not a chatter (((sponsors are bad, they’re not happy that the Babaev got air defense systems, oh, not happy! angry
    1. sub307
      sub307 28 June 2016 11: 16
      +4
      I agree .... What is there to "rejoice", a direct threat to aviation, working against the opposition.
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 28 June 2016 13: 09
        0
        Quote: sub307
        I agree .... What is there to "rejoice", a direct threat to aviation, working against the opposition.

        Yes, it’s not for nothing that our VKS operate at altitudes of 5 km.
  • Joe stalin
    Joe stalin 28 June 2016 11: 04
    +2
    Perdogan apologizes in full
    1. razmik72
      razmik72 28 June 2016 11: 15
      +4
      Quote: Joe Stalin
      Perdogan apologizes in full

      "Wasp" could have been transferred not only by Erdogan, dozens of countries are interested in the defeat of government troops in Syria, and this air defense system is a fairly common weapon.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 28 June 2016 11: 36
        +5
        razmik72
        "Wasp" could have been transferred not only by Erdogan, dozens of countries are interested in the defeat of government troops in Syria, and this air defense system is a fairly common weapon.

        Well, here "love" for the Turks with the Armenians can not be argued. This is a fact. hi
        Well, at the expense of this "Wasp" That our special operations forces and cards in hand. Find out what kind of "Wasp" and where.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 28 June 2016 11: 44
          +12
          Wasp from the regiment of the Assad air defense system - back in 2014. I cited both videos below (one yesterday, one 2014) - the remotes are the same, that is, a combination of Arabic and Russian, stickers in Russian, condition of bolts, pens, etc. These small details, no one would have faked.

          This is where they got the Missiles from, this is really a question of questions. All captured ammunition (6 missiles) they fired in the 2014 year. They didn’t capture new ones, especially in recent months; Jays didn’t have a lot of trophies with them. The only places where the missiles were captured were black in DeZ, but there were also Cubes, as well as BB.

          In fact, surely overseas Allah helped.
          1. DHA
            DHA 28 June 2016 12: 31
            +1
            Quote: donavi49
            This is where they got the Missiles from, this is really a question of questions.

            Missiles are easier to put, well-wishers in the west are missing.
        2. gg.na
          gg.na 28 June 2016 13: 20
          +1
          Quote: Observer2014
          . Find out what kind of "Wasp" and where.

          Yes, specialists will vychemit this "wasp" and destroy the pancake!
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 28 June 2016 13: 33
            +2
            gg.na
            Yes, specialists will vychemit this "wasp" and destroy the pancake!

            Destroy, it is not discussed. Here's what a bastard, she (Osu) put there. How Gorbachev "expressed himself" That's where "The dog rummaged" ?!
      2. Parsec
        Parsec 28 June 2016 15: 50
        +1
        Quote: razmik72
        "Wasp" could be transferred not only by Erdogan


        Where does Erdogan Osa come from?
        Wasp is a common weapon, but still not AKM.
        For passing by the UN arms register, you can fall under UN sanctions.
        1. samoletil18
          samoletil18 28 June 2016 20: 11
          0
          What are the UN sanctions? US headquarters. One of the permanent members of the US Security Council. Turkey is a member of NATO, where the United States rules everything. Supports materially and morally "moderate" opposition to the United States.
          A simple example: on our roads the so-called latent traffic violations only for officials, prosecutors, judges, etc. are also exceptional, like the United States on the world stage. And what will help besides physical destruction? I do not mean individuals, but a phenomenon.
  • Dr. Stein
    Dr. Stein 28 June 2016 11: 04
    +3
    It's good that at least they found it, now they’ll cover it.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 28 June 2016 11: 09
      +2
      Believe it or not? But tonight I dreamed about another missile strike of the Caspian Flotilla against terrorists in Syria. I also think: "What is it for?" winked
      1. Gvas1174
        Gvas1174 28 June 2016 11: 31
        0
  • istealth
    istealth 28 June 2016 11: 04
    +3
    Until the flies begin to fall, no one will even lift a finger. Moderate, in the ass will kiss and liberate
  • HAM
    HAM 28 June 2016 11: 05
    +5
    "The United States, France and Britain have blocked this initiative."
    It is necessary to block too, only missiles.
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    2. Rom14
      Rom14 28 June 2016 11: 17
      +2
      The strange position of Russia - to kill the bandits need an initiative. Approved by the bandit countries ??? Apparently, the shell shock did not pass without a trace, I don't understand a damn thing about "politics" ...
      1. razmik72
        razmik72 28 June 2016 11: 31
        0
        Quote: Rom14
        The strange position of Russia - to kill the bandits need an initiative. Approved by the bandit countries ??? Apparently, the shell shock did not pass without a trace, I don't understand a damn thing about "politics" ...

        Nikolai, there are hundreds of groups operating in Syria under the patronage of someone, it is not realistic to kill everyone, Russia in this part of the world does not have so much money and strength to “kill” everyone.
  • Primipilus
    Primipilus 28 June 2016 11: 13
    +2
    Using a television optical sight, the terrorists minimized the detection of the installation.
    1. Parsec
      Parsec 28 June 2016 15: 55
      +1
      This is not a television optical sight, this is a thermal imager.

      They did not minimize anything, 0:02 ... 0:08 included a high voltage of the target tracking station.
  • dsm100
    dsm100 28 June 2016 11: 13
    +4
    They still had to be taught to use all this good. This is not "a trifle in your pockets".
    1. pigkiller
      pigkiller 28 June 2016 11: 16
      0
      The supply is Ukrainian, the instructors are also from there.
      1. samoletil18
        samoletil18 28 June 2016 20: 24
        0
        I do not like the Polish leadership no less than Ukrainian. What is not from there?
        Suspects m. tens. Where "Wasps" just were not supplied. Just remember about the former USSR and the Department of Internal Affairs!
        And so you can get the answer: "What is your evidence?"
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      1. AID.S
        AID.S 28 June 2016 11: 28
        +1
        Quote: pigkiller
        The supply is Ukrainian, the instructors are also from there.

        Do you have information or is it just blah blah blah? It is more logical to assume that the Jordanian supply, the Wasps were delivered there.
  • Yarik
    Yarik 28 June 2016 11: 22
    +2
    “Military experts believe that the appearance of this complex is the help of foreign sponsors.

    These same sponsors this very "Wasp" in the train. would insert.
  • ibu355yandex.ru
    ibu355yandex.ru 28 June 2016 11: 27
    0
    To hammer all this "moderate opposition" that did not join the ceasefire regime! All normal oppositionists support the ceasefire and hostilities, because they really think about changing the situation peacefully. And all these henchmen of the amerikosy carry out their assigned task - to destroy Assad, and at the same time to destroy Syria into specific principalities! The principle of divide and conquer in all its glory!
  • akvanavt98
    akvanavt98 28 June 2016 11: 28
    0
    yeah, Sunshine.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 June 2016 11: 30
    +3
    They were afraid to work with the radar - you can immediately get "in the crown". And optics is such a thing - you need to be able to.
    In general, not a horse feed. But to "calculate" the supply channel of this "Wasp", and where it came from - this is important.
    1. Yak-3P
      Yak-3P 28 June 2016 11: 36
      -1
      yes declare war on Jordan am then they will sweat ..
  • donavi49
    donavi49 28 June 2016 11: 31
    +4
    The machine is old, 2014 of the year - then it shot all 6 missiles (in the video) and shot down 3 LA. She was never destroyed, despite a dozen statements.

    Oh, that this is an old Syrian air defense system, even localization says, you can compare the 2014 Wasps themselves:


    And this one:


    Characteristic scuffs - a combination of Arabic and Russian (with stickers in Arabic), damage - they say that the complex is one.

    That brought new missiles, yes. The question is how many are there.
  • Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 28 June 2016 11: 34
    +2
    attacked at night - and at night the current probably ours fly .. here and the caliber is not a pity .. go and there such a hunt is arranged am no matter how hard the Jordanians am
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 June 2016 11: 39
    +1
    The United States, France and Britain blocked this initiative.

    It’s clear with the Americans and the Britons, but France probably hasn’t yet received its portion in the form of terrorist attacks. It may be cynical, but this idea begs for itself. The president of a country that has already been repeatedly attacked to serve the Anglo-Saxons, blocks the initiative to be recognized as a terrorist organization.
    1. cap
      cap 28 June 2016 12: 56
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The United States, France and Britain blocked this initiative.

      It’s clear with the Americans and the Britons, but France probably hasn’t yet received its portion in the form of terrorist attacks. It may be cynical, but this idea begs for itself. The president of a country that has already been repeatedly attacked to serve the Anglo-Saxons, blocks the initiative to be recognized as a terrorist organization.


      "to serve the Anglo-Saxons"?
      What kind of service is this?
      Let him go as a sapper to work, then he can understand what it is.
      This is me about the paddling pool.
      Clearly, Americans are worried about their offspring, the British are not a question, but ... Frenchman, this is too much.
      Although if you recall Sarkozy who wrote off Gaddafi’s debts, with the hands of special forces and airstrikes under the guise of the States, I’m not surprised at anything.
      The politicians present in Europe are just the long arm of the State Department.
  • HMR333
    HMR333 28 June 2016 11: 41
    +2
    it's time to stop tsatskatsa with them to send amers away since they cannot "divide" them into the mind and not the moderates and once violates to beat nafig! and the installation could take a lot of them everywhere in Libya
  • Berkut24
    Berkut24 28 June 2016 11: 46
    +1
    What nonsense in the article! Guta is an isolated and surrounded on all sides by the CAA site near Damascus. Now tell me HOW another whole complex could get through the territory controlled by the SAA and dotted with roadblocks ?!
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 28 June 2016 11: 50
      +1
      The environment in Syria is possible only in very limited volumes, that is, the level of the village and 2 roads.

      The rest is only on the Map.

      In the Rastan enclave, a couple of thousand bearded men with TOUs and tanks marched on and went on the offensive on Hama, which was hardly repelled, that week. And there, too, from all sides, Assad’s troops and many kilometers to the nearest broads.
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 28 June 2016 12: 04
    +1
    The wasp was also supplied to Syria 50 sets, and earlier it was reported that the militants repeatedly seized warehouses, perhaps then leaked.
    http://www.pravda.ru/news/world/asia/middleeast/13-03-2016/1294957-syria-0/
  • Kibl
    Kibl 28 June 2016 12: 08
    0
    In my usual disa.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 28 June 2016 12: 28
      +3
      So there is video and photo, above. Moreover, this is a new launch, it does not look like the 6 of the previous launches (which were also shot all on the camera in 2014).
  • BOB044
    BOB044 28 June 2016 12: 12
    +2
    Do not wait but destroy. All these groups. Further it will be worse, we decide for ourselves who is friend and who is enemy.
  • Wolka
    Wolka 28 June 2016 12: 26
    -3
    it’s not clear to me where our satellites (... pcs.) look in Syria, the Wasp is not an apple, you won’t put it in your pocket, and the S-400 is not blind however, all this is wonderful right ...
    1. Leto
      Leto 28 June 2016 12: 48
      +2
      Quote: Volka
      Yes, and the S-400 is not blind, however

      What does the S-400 have to do with it? What side is it here? For you, the S-400 is a kind of prodigy capable of solving any problem?
  • R-22
    R-22 28 June 2016 14: 35
    +1
    it would be necessary to outbid these barmaley, so that they would be planted on the Yankees from this zrk, you look, they would calm down for a while