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Over-the-horizon “Sunflower” will be deployed in the Arctic in 2017 g

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The company "Radio Engineering and Information Systems" (RTI) in 2017 g will deliver to the military several new over-the-horizon radar "Sunflower", reports Rossiyskaya Gazeta With reference to the general director of the enterprise Sergey Boev.


Over-the-horizon “Sunflower” will be deployed in the Arctic in 2017 g


“As part of the development work, the Sunflower was upgraded to work in arctic conditions. In the Arctic, the radar station was planned to be deployed in the 2016 year, but for a number of reasons the deployment dates were postponed to the 2017 year, ”said Fighting.

According to him, "Sunflowers" will also be placed "on the southern and western borders of Russia."

Earlier, the RF Ministry of Defense reported that the “Sunflower Radar” was developed for the needs of the Russian Navy, state tests took place in the 2006 year ”. Currently, 3 stations are on alert in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, Japan, and the Caspian Sea.

The manufacturer’s reference: the “Sunflower” radar allows you to automatically (simultaneously or sequentially) detect, track and classify up to 300 marine and 100 airborne objects, both within the line of sight and beyond the horizon, determine their coordinates and target designations to the complexes and ship armament systems and air defense systems ".
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  1. Skubudu
    Skubudu 28 June 2016 09: 48
    +5
    Perhaps we have an effective means of detecting AUG.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 28 June 2016 09: 50
      +16
      Quote: Skubudu
      Perhaps we have an effective means of detecting AUG.


      AUG is not a needle in a haystack .... this is the first swallow of the Russian missile defense ... I think so wink
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 28 June 2016 18: 35
      +1
      Quote: Skubudu
      Perhaps we have an effective means of detecting AUG.

      Perhaps we have an effective means of combating climate (geophysical) weapons in Alaska?
      Joke. Alaskan antenna fields resemble.
  2. vorobey
    vorobey 28 June 2016 09: 48
    +5
    the name smiled again ... It is subtly noticed how a sunflower turns its head after the sun .... laughing
  3. AKsvlad047
    AKsvlad047 28 June 2016 09: 48
    +4
    In ten years, only three stations have been put on combat duty; in our time, such a draft with the deployment of such necessary radars is not permissible. It is necessary to speed up this process so that our partners do not even have thoughts to drive close to our borders !!!
    1. gg.na
      gg.na 28 June 2016 10: 13
      +3
      Quote: AKsvlad047
      It’s necessary to speed up this process,

      Haste and acceleration are needed when catching fleas and diarrhea! Here you need a thoughtful approach to such matters, you need to put "sunflowers" so that they could control and block as much space as possible. With the greatest efficiency!
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      2. Rom14
        Rom14 28 June 2016 12: 06
        +5
        The effectiveness was calculated not only by "friends" but also by our specialists, either there is no money, or the enemy is a brake, there is at the top ...
  4. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 28 June 2016 09: 56
    +3
    Great news! That's just interesting, but does the "Sunflower" have a protected (underground) version of the antenna array? 35 years ago I had a chance to serve in the GSVG on the "then" version and we had huge underground PAR.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 28 June 2016 10: 10
      0
      Quote: Rusfaner
      Great news!

      If all the coasts in the Arctic were cleared, it would be even more joyful ...
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 28 June 2016 10: 32
        +10
        Quote: RUSS
        Quote: Rusfaner
        Great news!

        If all the coasts in the Arctic were cleared, it would be even more joyful ...

        Generally cleaned and very active.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 28 June 2016 11: 00
          0
          Quote: Muvka
          Generally cleaned and very active.

          Yes, but it is predicted that this will take 15-20 years .... and started in 2013 with Franz Josef Land.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 28 June 2016 11: 58
            +6
            Quote: RUSS
            Yes, but it is projected to take 15-20 years ....


            and shit before this how much? under the Union began
      2. V.ic
        V.ic 28 June 2016 10: 55
        +8
        Quote: RUSS
        If all the coasts in the Arctic were cleared, it would be even more joyful ...

        Yeah, even Moscow with Peter from the oligarchs and homeless people, and don’t forget about guest workers ... it would be even more joyful.
        1. Rom14
          Rom14 28 June 2016 12: 14
          -1
          Homeless do not touch, this is a dear face., Rossiyskaya! The rest of the broom ...
      3. NordUral
        NordUral 28 June 2016 17: 11
        0
        Clean, don’t worry like that, my friend.
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    3. Lelek
      Lelek 28 June 2016 10: 29
      +2
      Quote: Rusfaner
      That's just interesting, but does the "Sunflower" have a protected (underground) version of the antenna array?


      Most likely there is, but in the conditions of the Arctic its use is impossible, and in rocky soils of Chukotka or Sakhalin it is a hefty costly affair.
      1. Operator
        Operator 28 June 2016 17: 26
        +2
        The underground option of placing a phased antenna over the horizon radar has one drawback - when it rains, the radar does not work, since the PAR (located in the layer of gravel) is washed by conductive jets of water.

        On the other hand, the underground headlamp is protected only from a shock wave. A ground explosion with the formation of a funnel will still disable it.

        In addition, over-the-horizon radars are designed to operate only until the outbreak of a military conflict, after which they are guaranteed to be disabled. But before that, they allow you to record all missile launches, take-offs of aircraft and the coordinates of the enemy’s ACG in a space up to 6000 km wide.

        This makes it possible to sink the AUG within the reach of the Kyrgyz Republic from submarines (or, at a minimum, remove the AUG from the game by driving them over 6000 km), put the country's air defense / missile defense system into combat readiness, and launch a counter-nuclear missile strike.
  5. Arkan
    Arkan 28 June 2016 09: 57
    +1
    Now, the sky and water will be reliably visible.
    1. volot-voin
      volot-voin 28 June 2016 10: 03
      +2
      Quote: Arkan
      Now, the sky and water will be reliably visible.

      Still only in 2017 .. In any case, it's better late than never, and the Arctic is a strategic direction for the Russian Federation, and militarily strong countries are licking their lips on it, and the enemy's ICBMs, if "God forbid," fly through the Arctic.
      Well done. Again the "funny" name. Well done !!!
      Well done, let's say in 2017, on the fact of the work done.
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      2. bulvas
        bulvas 28 June 2016 10: 13
        +2
        Quote: volot-voin
        In any case, it's better late than never, and the Arctic is a strategic direction for the Russian Federation, and militarily not weak countries are licking their lips at it, and the enemy's ICBMs, if "God forbid," fly through the Arctic.


        For ICBMs, an over-the-horizon radar is probably not required, more for low-flying and surface targets

  6. dsm100
    dsm100 28 June 2016 09: 57
    +3
    Well done. Again the "funny" name. Well done !!!
  7. BOB044
    BOB044 28 June 2016 10: 03
    +3
    One name Sunflower inspires joy. And if even Peony or Geocint will help to blossom this flower garden. That is only a joy to us.
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 28 June 2016 10: 19
      +2
      About the range of horizontal detection modestly silent. smile
      With good target designation, it is possible to direct the BR, and not just artillery! good
      IMHO
  8. Kent0001
    Kent0001 28 June 2016 10: 03
    +2
    The news is good, but the pace of rearmament of the army is not very. It is clear that money is tight now, but still I would like to ... well, well done, our Arctic!
  9. Kibl
    Kibl 28 June 2016 10: 07
    0
    To illuminate all the approaches to Russia, so that the fly does not fly and the iron does not swim!
  10. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 28 June 2016 10: 22
    +1
    Quote: Rusfaner
    That's just interesting, but does the "Sunflower" have a protected (underground) version of the antenna array? 35 years ago I had a chance to serve in the GSVG on the "then" version and We were huge underground headlights.

    Or I don’t understand a damn thing about the connection, or you got drunk somewhere. If possible, what are you talking about?
    1. Yak-3P
      Yak-3P 28 June 2016 10: 27
      -1
      this is the disclosure of secrets !! military !! For a long time there are antennas underground .. it's all about hertz ...
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 28 June 2016 11: 01
        +1
        Quote: Yak-3P
        it's all about hertz ...

        Who are Heinrich? A terrible dream may occur: knees buried in permafrost, depicting half-wave vibrators with spread apart hands, a feeder with a train is brought to each mouth ... And they stand in orderly rows ... Poor fellow!
    2. Yak-3P
      Yak-3P 28 June 2016 10: 29
      0
      Mgn-Magnitogorsk?
  11. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 28 June 2016 10: 30
    +3
    Quote: engineer74
    About the distance beyond the horizon detection modestly silent. smile
    With good target designation, it is possible to direct BRs, and not just artillery! good
    IMHO

    Since the minimum angle of the main lobe of the radiation pattern is about 4 degrees, the first "control spot" (the place of "landing" of the first jump) will be at a distance of 2000 km, approximately. In 1980, we from the GSVG could check the fact of the movement of the B-52 along the airfield in Greenland.
    1. Yak-3P
      Yak-3P 28 June 2016 10: 34
      0
      old .. You reveal the secrets !!! You still write where are all sorts of underground detectors !!
  12. VVooVVaa
    VVooVVaa 28 June 2016 10: 39
    0
    And how many kilometers is the horizon ???
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 28 June 2016 10: 44
      0
      The distance from you to the horizon. When approaching it, it tends to move away, so km is not measured.
    2. Bramb
      Bramb 28 June 2016 10: 45
      +1
      5 km per person
    3. V.ic
      V.ic 28 June 2016 11: 05
      0
      Quote: VVooVVaa
      And how many kilometers is the horizon?

      D = 4 * square root H; where H is the height of the object. The simplest first approximation.
  13. Mels
    Mels 28 June 2016 10: 50
    +1
    Super! It's time to build.
  14. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 28 June 2016 10: 57
    +3
    Quote: Yak-3P
    old .. You reveal the secrets !!! You still write where are all sorts of underground detectors !!

    From the characteristics: "He will not give out a military secret. Because he DOES NOT KNOW!"
    The object on which I happened to serve is now located on the territory of a conditional (?) Enemy, so ... Regarding the presence of underground HEADLIGHTS, my question "into the air" was about the fact of presence, not the place. Because, if there is, then with our brains (more precisely, with you, the Russians), thank God everything is in order.
    Now about the irony of the underground antenna fields. Such an object is being constructed as follows: they dig a huge pit, for example, 300x300m, with a depth of 4-5m. The drainage system is equipped at the bottom, as in a stadium. Then a layer of rubble, on it the headlamp fabric and a tuyeva heap of coaxial cables acting as phase-shifting chains, sealed feeder switches, etc. are installed. On top is another layer of rubble and the rest is sand. The last layer is earth and grass. According to calculations, such antenna fields were supposed to withstand the air explosion of a nuclear weapon. The remaining parameters of the underground PAR - this is highly specialized information.
  15. Berkut24
    Berkut24 28 June 2016 11: 00
    +3
    [
    Quote: vorobey
    Quote: Skubudu
    Perhaps we have an effective means of detecting AUG.


    AUG is not a needle in a haystack .... this is the first swallow of the Russian missile defense ... I think so wink

    Is it lazy to read the article itself about this "Sunflower"? Its range is 200-250 km. Works exclusively on ships and air targets.
    And if it’s not at all lazy - read about missile defense. There were no offshore stations there. ZGRL were adopted by SPRN. For they do not give accuracy, but only the fact of launching missiles.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 28 June 2016 11: 54
      +2
      Quote: Berkut24
      Is it lazy to read the article itself about this "Sunflower"? Its range is 200-250 km.


      I’m not a pilot ... I’m a tankman ... I don’t know the subtleties, but she will definitely catch the launches of Aegis from ships ...
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  16. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 28 June 2016 11: 03
    +1
    Quote: Bramb
    5 km per person

    For a person with a height of 1,7 m, this is 8,21 km for a hypothetically round Earth.
  17. atamankko
    atamankko 28 June 2016 11: 07
    +2
    Our Arctic needs to be protected by us without any "partners".
  18. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 28 June 2016 13: 00
    0
    Quote: Yak-3P
    Mgn-Magnitogorsk?

    That's right.
  19. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 28 June 2016 13: 13
    +1
    Quote: Rusfaner
    Regarding the availability of underground headlights
    Did you serve at the Observatory by any chance? If so, then your understanding of the issue is clear, otherwise, throw information to the Pentagon, it will be a good fake, they will dig a couple of lards on this topic.
  20. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 28 June 2016 14: 01
    +1
    Quote: avg-mgn
    Quote: Rusfaner
    Regarding the availability of underground headlights
    Did you serve at the Observatory by any chance? If so, then your understanding of the issue is clear, otherwise, throw information to the Pentagon, it will be a good fake, they will dig a couple of lards on this topic.

    VSNPO "KASKAD"
    Judging by the scarcity of public information about the distant HF location, the lards are sawing from both sides. They added to the orders only by "zero". Or even transferred to the category "before reading - burn!"
  21. Operator
    Operator 28 June 2016 15: 39
    +1
    The P-50 "Observatory" over-the-horizon radar (range up to 400 km within the radio horizon) is in the centimeter range.

    The Podsolnukh over-the-horizon radar (range up to 300 km at altitudes from 0 to 80 km), as well as the Container radar (range from 3000 km for air targets to 6000 km for surface targets) is a decameter range.

    Decameter radars have one advantage - the EPR of targets in this range cannot be reduced by any means, there is also one drawback - the dead zone for detecting targets is 10-15 percent of the maximum range.

    The Podsolnukh radar is located in the Makhachkala region, the Container radar in the Voronezh region. The Soviet predecessors of the first "Volna" radar station were installed in the Vladivostok region (in operation), the second "Duga" radar station - in the Chernobyl region (not in operation, all structures are preserved).

    In the case of construction along the perimeter of Russia at a distance of at least 300 km from the border (dead zone) up to a dozen "Container" radars in the volume of the adjacent space at altitudes from 0 to 80 km, a continuous radar field will be formed to a depth of 3000 km (aircraft and missiles) up to 6000 km (surface ships).

    Russia is the only country in the world that owns the technology for the construction and operation of over-the-horizon radars. Developments in this area in the USA, China, Britain, Israel and other countries have not left the R&D stage.
  22. NordUral
    NordUral 28 June 2016 17: 07
    0
    The manufacturer’s reference: the “Sunflower” radar allows you to automatically (simultaneously or sequentially) detect, track and classify up to 300 marine and 100 airborne objects, both within the line of sight and beyond the horizon, determine their coordinates and target designations to the complexes and ship armament systems and air defense systems ".

    Good, but not enough. If something happens, there will be many times more goals for escort.