The Kurds destroyed the Turkish self-propelled gun from the ATTM “Metis” (video)

Turkish self-propelled howitzer T-155 Firtina ("Storm") was hit on the Syrian border from the Soviet ATGM "Metis", reports Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

In the annotation to the video states that "the female soldiers of the Workers Party of Kurdistan, fighting the enemy as well as their men, knocked down the self-propelled gun."

On the frames, you can see how the "wobbling" anti-tank rocket flies up to the Turkish SAU, which is at a well-reinforced height, and successfully hits the target.

“By the way, this 155-millimeter howitzer is the most long-range in the Turkish armed forces. In the flurry of fire mode, she is able to fire three shots in 15 seconds, ”the RG clarifies.



Help newspaper: “Metis” ATGM was adopted by the Soviet Army in 1978. It was actively supplied to the Middle East from 1980 to 2000. Designed to defeat fixed and moving armored vehicles and firing points. The 9М115 rocket is capable of piercing armor at a distance of 900 meters. You can shoot lying down, standing up and from the knee. ”

Comments

[Andrey K]

Kurdish grenade launchers eat their bread for good reason
Nothing strange about the fact that the self-propelled gun was fired on the Kurds. And not just for the Kurds, but for the Kurds located outside the territory of Turkey
And the Turks are unlikely to make a fuss here - they got what they deserved when shelling a neighboring country
And the result of the shooting is extra evidence of the quality of Soviet (Russian) weapons

[Khariton]

The Kurds are no longer the same (they suddenly started shooting accurately)))) .... And Erdogan clearly understood this, asked for mercy! Kurdish autonomy should be ... Definitely!

[Andrey K]

Quote: Chariton

The Kurds are no longer the same (they suddenly started shooting accurately)))) .... And Erdogan clearly understood this, asked for mercy! Kurdish autonomy should be ... Definitely!

Khariton, Kurds have always fired accurately. It is another matter that the "Metis" who "fell" into their hands are the very help of the USA and the Middle East monarchies in the fight against ISIS and, along the way, with Assad. The Turks, together with the mattress mats, have stirred up such a snake ball that it will cost a lot of blood to get out of it.
About Kurdish autonomy, I would not be very happy either. The autonomy of the Kurds threatens the collapse of Iraq, Syria and Turkey itself. In fact, the Kurdish map is used by all sides of the Middle East showdown. But autonomy to the Kurds, absolutely no one wants

[Khariton]

Quote: Andrey K

About Kurdish autonomy, I would not be very happy either. The autonomy of the Kurds threatens the collapse of Iraq, Syria and Turkey itself. In fact, the Kurdish map is used by all sides of the Middle East showdown. But absolutely no one wants Kurds autonomy

The Kurdish card, I think Russia still played (so far in Syria, etc ...) .. Without them, we would have had a hard time! You can negotiate with the Kurds (their diaspora in Russia and the world is still strong and rich ..) I'm afraid that the USA and Israel can seize the initiative (as usual)! They will deceive them again, once again .. Nevertheless, Russia needs to keep a firm line in this matter! We can negotiate in the Middle East and keep our word and be tough, they TRUST and BELIEVE us there! I hope Russia will live up to their hopes .. Keep Allah the Kurds!

[Andrey K]

Quote: Chariton

The Kurdish card, I think Russia still played (so far in Syria, etc ...) .. Without them, we would have had a hard time! You can negotiate with the Kurds (their diaspora in Russia and the world is still strong and rich ..) I'm afraid that the USA and Israel can seize the initiative (as usual)! They will deceive them again, once again .. Nevertheless, Russia needs to keep a firm line in this matter! We can negotiate in the Middle East and keep our word and be tough, they TRUST and BELIEVE us there! I hope Russia will live up to their hopes .. Keep Allah the Kurds!

Khariton, with all due respect to our Ministry of Foreign Affairs and special services - to the drawing of the "Kurdish card", we have a very indirect relationship
And the initiative with the Kurds belongs precisely to the United States with Middle Eastern players. Due to a lack of understanding of the specifics of the Middle East, the United States simply could not take their initiative. Brew porridge, pit everyone against everyone, yes, that’s what mattresses did. But they did not succeed in channeling energy in the right direction, partly from the fact that, as you correctly said, Russia is able to negotiate and has not lost credibility in the BV.
About the peace of Allah ...
Hariton! You are Orthodox! Why is this! Simply put - God bless them!

[user1212]

Quote: Andrey K

About Kurdish autonomy, I would not be very happy either. The autonomy of the Kurds threatens the collapse of Iraq, Syria and Turkey itself. In fact, the Kurdish map is used by all sides of the Middle East showdown. But autonomy to the Kurds, absolutely no one wants

In Iraq, the Kurds ALREADY have autonomy and the problems of Iraq are far from the autonomy of the Kurds

[Andrey K]

Quote: user1212

In Iraq, the Kurds ALREADY have autonomy and the problems of Iraq are far from the autonomy of the Kurds

Iraq's problems will begin when the Kurds agree among themselves
There are no problems so far. But as soon as they raise the question of a single Kurdistan, and they do not hide this desire, problems will begin for everyone.

[cap]

Quote: Andrey K

Quote: user1212

In Iraq, the Kurds ALREADY have autonomy and the problems of Iraq are far from the autonomy of the Kurds

Iraq's problems will begin when the Kurds agree among themselves
There are no problems so far. But as soon as they raise the question of a single Kurdistan, and they do not hide this desire, problems will begin for everyone.

What problems? People want to live in their own state.
It’s not their fault that they divided the country without considering the fact that these people even exist.
Why are they worse than others?

[Andrey K]

Quote: cap

What problems? People want to live in their own state.
It’s not their fault that they divided the country without considering the fact that these people even exist.
Why are they worse than others?

Geography problems
Look at the map of BV and your question will disappear
You propose redrawing the borders of Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Iran and Armenia
They are no worse than others, they live in different states

[igorka357]

What problems, the Chechens also wanted to live in their own state! Should they also let go and give them everything? How will the Kurds live, due to the fact that there is territory in which they are grabbing?

[Weyland]

Quote: Andrey K

There are no problems so far. But as soon as they raise the question of a single Kurdistan, and they do not hide this desire, problems will begin for everyone.

Especially among the Kurds themselves. A single Kurdistan never existed precisely because different Kurdish clans cut themselves apart with much more enthusiasm than they fought against an external enemy - the rule "I and Somalia ..." does not work there!

[Sharapov]

Well, suppose the article does not match the video.

The technique worked different - not 9K115, but later modifications.
12K9 would not have reached this range (flight time - 115 seconds) - it has a flight time of 6-7 seconds.
But in general - offset, girls rejoice from the heart.

[NyeMoNik70]

SHARAPOV You are absolutely right. Perhaps it is Metis-M1:

Firing range day and night, m ​​80-2000
Application temperature range: ° С ± 50
Rocket Caliber: 130mm
Also "Rocket Technique" writes about "Metis-M":
"Used during the military conflict in Syria in 2012."

And why do they shoot with cumulative rather than thermal bar in lightly armored vehicles? They cannot identify Ale simply no 9M131FM (with thermobaric warhead).

Here is the product link: http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/metis_m/metis_m.shtml

[Denimax]

Quote: Sharapov

Well, suppose the article does not match the video.

There was also a doubt that it was Metis.
Firstly, because of the tracer on the wing, it rotates like a boomerang, you can not confuse it with others.
Secondly, if the squeak before launch was from a gyroscope, then Metis does not have it. IMHO

[Art]

I calculated a range of about 1500 m. The time from getting to the sound of an explosion is about 4 or 5 seconds, of course, from the video, L = 330m / s * 4s (5s) = 1320 (1650) m

[ALEA IACTA EST]

The Kurds have fully deserved the right to their own state.

[igorka357]

Do not tell me what, it’s just not your statement that’s interesting, but the statement is direct !!!

[Sharapov]

Quote: Andrey K

Kurdish grenade launchers eat their bread for good reason

Strange, but in the article there is not a word about the grenade launcher.
First Commenter

Quote: Andrey K

Andrey K (2)

I was in a hurry to be the first - so I did not read the article.
And as the debriefing shows - not the fact that the weapons are Soviet-made.

[Andrey K]

Quote: Sharapov

... Strange, but in the article not a word about the grenade launcher ...
... The first one to write a comment ...
... was in a hurry to be the first - so I did not read the article ...
... And as the debriefing shows, it’s not a fact that Soviet-made weapons ...

Sharapov, do not flood (those), envy is a very bad adviser, judging by your comment, she confuses thoughts
If you want to be the first - be nothing to sleep and to drag yourself into the debriefing
The guarantor (s) or gunner (s) do not change the comment, write as a matter of article and you will succeed
Regarding the debriefing about the place of production of the ATGM - have you seen the ATGM form somewhere? Or in communication on the forum "figured out"
When "parsing" the ATGM model according to the missile flight time, you forgot to measure the distance, and the modifications of the missiles of this ATGM, "from free" are shuffling here. Not serious and unconvincing
PS I didn’t substitute an ass with bullets for you, and I didn’t go for porridge from one pot, so put aside familiarity and be kind to you

[Sharapov]

1. To confuse a grenade launcher with an ATGM operator - how much do you need to sit on the couch? and in komenta - common truths, you read - already reduces cheekbones.
2. For the assessment in this case, the distance is not important when in the performance characteristics there is such a characteristic as flight time.
3. What kind of day is this - not only did the author mess up in the article, but the author of the first mowing comment would like to express dissatisfaction.
3. But it’s cool for YOU to draw faces! This is what you do.

[Andrey K]

Quote: Sharapov

1. To confuse a grenade launcher with an ATGM operator - how much do you need to sit on the couch? and in komenta - common truths, you read - already reduces cheekbones.
2. For the assessment in this case, the distance is not important when in the performance characteristics there is such a characteristic as flight time.
3. What kind of day is this - not only did the author mess up in the article, but the author of the first mowing comment would like to express dissatisfaction.
3. But it’s cool for YOU to draw faces! This is what you do.

1. Sharapov, you either write on the topic, or do not slip into discussions of personalities
2.Sofa, faces and other crap worthy of discussion among gossip grandmothers
3. Your sofa does not concern you, as well as the style that I follow when writing comments
4. I didn’t allow a single comment not on the topic of the article or rudeness.
And the last thing - you subtracted the flight time in the performance characteristics and it dawned on you that you are not a guru and the laws of mathematics with physics and the distance to the target is not important
Have you seen ATGMs? Or maybe they fought and sitting on the couch, share your practical knowledge.
I saw, shot from almost everything in the infantry in service.
With the grenade launcher, a mistake really came out, before my eyes exactly the same picture stood when in the Komsomolsk "motoliga" dukhovskaya was burned. Well, this is not critical and everything else, I commented without phonofarony
For sim - calm down

[igorka357]

Or maybe you should not spend so much keyboard resource on Sharapova? Best regards!

[Andrey K]

I agree with you, spending time figuring out poses on the couch and other verbal casuistry is counterproductive.
Best regards

[hirurg]

Offset. And the girls are happy.)))

[PN]

And no wild cries - Allah Babah

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: PN

And no wild cries - Allah Babah

There were screams, about a self-propelled gun with a dozen Turkish soldiers ran and screamed Allahu akbar

[Sobol]

Quote: PN

And no wild cries - Allah Babah

Very like Come on, come on, come on!

[Lanista]

Quote: PN

And no wild cries - Allah Babah

Kurds are practically not religious in their mass, they are rather adherents of socialist ideas. There would sooner be a cry "Marx-Engels akbar!", But not about Allah.

[Andrey K]

Quote: Lanista

Quote: PN

And no wild cries - Allah Babah

Kurds are practically not religious in their mass, they are rather adherents of socialist ideas. There would sooner be a cry "Marx-Engels akbar!", But not about Allah.

Most Kurds are Muslims, some are Yezidis. If you take into account the Kurdish Workers' Party, then yes, you have adopted the ideas of Marxism-Leninism. Especially under the influence of the CPSU and to get "fraternal help"
Kurds are pragmatists. For the most part - Aborigines moved away from education and other benefits of civilization. On the ideas of universal equality and fraternity they, in Russian, sneeze

[RUSOIVAN]

the technique, however, is not in the hands of savages!)

[Strezhevchanin]

Here you go! No "Alla I'm in the bar"! Simple and no dancing.
Turks put Kurds in such a position that even women become pros of military affairs. I would have thought well in place of Erdogan, because neither the United States nor NATO are going to harness.

[zennon]

Quote: Strezhevchanin

I would have thought well in place of Erdogan, because neither the United States nor NATO are going to harness.

What is there to think? She found a braid on a stone. There are many, many Kurds. They have identified their interests for a long time. Erdogan has nothing to do. If he only starts negotiations with the Kurds about their autonomy (I'm not talking about separation, as they require), then a big, fat, that is, a full scribe will immediately come running to Erdagan. Understand correctly, there is no solution to the problem of the Kurds. Both of them understand this. Erdogan cannot give up his territory, and the Kurds cannot give up the war for non-dependence. We certainly it is necessary to cooperate with the Kurds, to help them. Several million euros per year in the form of weapons, ammunition, uniforms, food, etc. for us, it’s not the kind of money on a national scale that we should talk about.
With regards to the T-155 Firtina howitzer, it’s a license for the South Korean K9 Thunder.

[Taygerus]

clearly worked, there’s nothing to shell foreign territories, they got what they deserved

[Ayujak]

Wouldn't it be better to throw there from a mortar? Range 2 km somewhere. And manpower would also be struck ...

[Strezhevchanin]

Quote: AYUJAK

Wouldn't it be better to throw there from a mortar? Range 2 km somewhere. And manpower would also be struck ...

What was the thing and they were sinking, it’s better to cover it with sunshine, more reliable.

[Andrey K]

Quote: AYUJAK

Wouldn't it be better to throw there from a mortar? Range 2 km somewhere. And manpower would also be struck ...

You got excited
We read TTX SAU T-155 Firtina:
The chassis and steel tower provide protection against fire 14,5 mm KPVT machine gun and fragments of 155-m shells. Self-propelled guns are also equipped with a system of protection against weapons of mass destruction ...
With what mortar do you propose to destroy this weapon? How to have time to turn around, and after completing the task in time to eat .... Xia, so that the "response" is not caught?
I suspect that the Kurds still do not have kamikazes and the self-propelled guns were destroyed in the most adequate way - by calculating the Metis ATGM, pointwise and with 100% probability.

[Pitot]

You can get a Tulip ..... but the Kurds clearly do not have them.

[Andrey K]

Quote: Pitot

You can get a Tulip ..... but the Kurds clearly do not have them.

And why not "Point U"
PS "Tulips" from 1969 to 1988 produced only 588 pieces
Of the neighboring states, 10 were delivered to Iraq and supposedly to Libya.

[Ayujak]

I understand that you cannot destroy equipment with a mortar. But it would be great to throw a few mines to the "mestizo". After all, losses in manpower are more tangible than just the loss of equipment. I think it would be effective. But what is what is. Just a guess.

[Andrey K]

Quote: AYUJAK

I understand that you cannot destroy equipment with a mortar. But it would be great to throw a few mines to the "mestizo". After all, losses in manpower are more tangible than just the loss of equipment. I think it would be effective. But what is what is. Just a guess.

I understand you perfectly. But the calculation of the self-propelled guns is inside. Based on the presented video - where the self-propelled guns are located between some buildings, it makes sense to assume that there is a living force that can be covered with a mortar.
Given that the calculation of the ATGM is 2 people (and if these are Kurdish ladies, then we add at least one more to drag the PU) and theoretically, suppose the lightest mortar available there is the M224 (American 60 mm., With a weight depending on the base plate from 16.1 up to 21.1 kg.) with a maximum firing range of 3,5 km., it turns out that at least a dozen fighters had to be in front of the fortified area of ​​the Turkish army. Very likely to be destroyed

[dchegrinec]

Turks have made porridge for themselves. Think they can build a normal society by violence against the Kurds? Now it is not known how old it is and how to dissolve it.

[Polite Moose]

Well done girls! Another clove in the lid of a Turkish coffin was boarded up.

Quote: Strezhevchanin

Here you go! No "Alla I'm in the bar"! Simple and no dancing.

I think that if you watch the video "from the other side", then Allayavbarov and Turkish dances will be above the roof.

[Dr. Stein]

The loop is getting tighter and tighter along the lean neck of Turkey.

[ver_]

Quote: AYUJAK

Wouldn't it be better to throw there from a mortar? Range 2 km somewhere. And manpower would also be struck ...

..from the Arabs, mortars are from bullet shit .. They are like monkeys - they put mines into the mortar and do not use the setting- they hammer at one point ...

[Olegovi4]

Quote: ver_

they put mines in a mortar and do not use the setting; they hammer at one point ...

Well, how would it be exactly the setting after each shot or burst and gives a hit to one point. and the way the Arabs shoot from mortars (judging by the videos) is more like a "carpet bombing". or, more simply, to whom God will send.

[Yak-3P]

stupid Turks .. a kilometer from the opornik blink the enemy well done girls !!!!!

[valent45]

Well done Kurds! Glory to the Soviet weapons!

[dsm100]

This is a development of the 70s. And imagine what the anti-tank systems of our days can do. All the same, the Soviet and even modern weapons have a margin of safety for decades to come.

[Wedmak]

Particularly delivers the sound of clapping. You can vividly imagine the picture. ))) But the Turks, yes, played out.

[ALEA IACTA EST]

And now the apology is accepted.

[Berkut24]

Self-propelled guns and multiple launch rocket systems - fairly easy prey. As a rule, neither of them has anti-cumulative protection, they are in a stationary position and in an open area. Recently, SAA lost the BM-21 in exactly the same way. So this is not so much the high characteristics of the ATGM or the high class of the operator as some kind of natural dibilism of the commanders of the Turkish army. After all, this is not the first self-propelled gun burned in this way.
Put the equipment on the highest point of the hill, without even covering it with at least elementary earthen fortifications ... It was they who had not yet met with aviation.

[avg-mgn]

ATGM Metis
It was used during the military conflict in Syria in 2012 year.
Firing range - 40-1000 m, maximum flight speed - 223 m / s, flight time at maximum range - 6 s, length 730 mm, wingspan 370 mm, body diameter - 93 mm, dimensions of the transport and launch container - 784 x 138 x 145 mm, rocket mass - 4,8 kg, TPK - 6,3 kg, armor penetration - 250-550 mm.

[Lekxnumx]

The old video is already needed on the 22nd day. IN. On the same day, the Kurds shot down another SPG from which I don’t know. But in the first case there were female warriors. Continuation of the video here http://ru.oxu.az/world/136965. Well, Erdogan merged in what I was sure of on the first day, the emotional TOO speaks, does then thinks. From such people NEVER come out not good athletes, nor good warriors, nor politicians only good speakers. There is a lot of noise, but zero sense, as they say.

[ICT]

Quote: Lek3338

Continuation of the video here //ru.oxu.az/world/136965

and by the way, this fortress was built on the mountain not so long ago, I saw a video when the site was leveled there, and they shot it from the prevailing height

[Mountain shooter]

Cool thing, "Metis", on self-propelled guns - very "in the subject." The controls are extremely simple, aim, shoot and hold in the crosshair - it will hit itself. Look, even the girls have mastered it. And the Turks are so offended. Such an expensive "toy", and its from a penny ATGM - to smithereens, in half!

[Evil 55]

Well done, girls .. Kurdish response to Sultan P...erdogan pleased the democratic community ..

[rotmistr60]

One can understand the sincere joy of the Kurdish female PKK fighters. Continue in the same spirit.

[Khariton]

Quote: rotmistr60

One can understand the sincere joy of the Kurdish female PKK fighters. Continue in the same spirit.

If women took up arms, then this is a very serious situation for Erdogan!
Looks like they brought it to the "handle .." ...

[Cananecat]

Kurdish women have long taken up arms, as well as Syrian ... and Donbass.

[ICT]

Women shouted: Hooray! / Yves air caps threw

[Reptiloid]

Well done girls !!!! Together with fathers, brothers, husbands fight against the vile! !!!
For life and freedom for your children !!!

[geek2101]

Hmm. And what a devil there was this howitzer in general, "in an open field" and without disguise.
Direct fire shot chtoli?

[berezin1987]

Excellent anti-tank and pretty cheap, because has wire management. This quality makes jamming impossible. I see the principle - I shoot.

[Kibl]

Kurdish Anka machine gunner beats for sure! Keep it up, turn the entire Turkish armored vehicle into burning trash!

[Mels]

Well done girls! Keep it up.

[rennim]

What is there to be surprised at. Any SPG can be knocked out from the ATR. Not to mention the RPG. If only Abrams or Leclerc ...

[Mikhail Krapivin]

Our Alaverdi for shelling these same self-propelled guns on Syrian territory. It is necessary to destroy them all, consistently and inevitably, so that the crews refuse to shoot at Syria.

[Siberia 9444]

Girls shout the same ur, or it seemed to me. And so the boom is good

[Noldor77777]

It is curious why ours since Soviet times and until recently did not want to take the Metis into service? Because of the relatively short range compared to Bassoon and Competition?

[Aries]

In the picture "Metis" in the video, a rocket from "Fagot / Competition" flies. The Metis was put into service in 1978. The Metis-M1 was not adopted for a long time.