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In Turkey, criminal proceedings against the militant of the group "Gray Wolves" Celik resume

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Information Agency Rider citing Turkish sources, reports that criminal proceedings have been resumed in Turkey against Alparslan Celik. Recall that this is the same militant of the Gray Wolves grouping, who stated in front of the camera that he gave the order to shoot the Russian pilot Oleg Peshkov descending by parachute last fall.


In Turkey, criminal proceedings against the militant of the group "Gray Wolves" Celik resume


Recall that a few months ago, Celik with a group of accomplices was arrested in Turkish Izmir. Police found a whole arsenal from militants weapons. A criminal case was filed. However, just a few days after the arrest, Celik was released from custody.

From today's report, Reuters:
In respect of a man whose name is associated with the death of a Russian pilot, a judicial investigation has begun and is underway.


Turkish media have noted that earlier charges of shooting Oleg Peshkov from Celik were dropped. However, now, according to a source in the Izmir Prosecutor’s Office, Chelik may be charged with involvement in the murder of the Russian marine Alexander Pozychnich.

The Turkish Prosecutor’s Office stated that the resumption of the елиelik case is related to “the studied personnel with elik’s statements”. What previously prevented Turkish prosecutors from examining the cadres in which Chelik poses in the north of Syria remains a mystery ...

Meanwhile, a spokesman for Turkish President Ibrahim Kalyn some time ago confirmed Erdogan’s apology to Vladimir Putin and the family of the deceased Russian pilot Oleg Peshkov.
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  1. Dimontius
    Dimontius 27 June 2016 18: 47
    +15
    Just give it to us. The white swan is crying before him.
    1. cniza
      cniza 27 June 2016 18: 48
      +9
      Or let them finish them off.
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      2. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr 27 June 2016 18: 58
        +18
        Did Erdogashi realize that GDP acts as an adult? And he doesn’t throw words into the wind. Arrogance from the Sultan begins to fly off gradually. The Americans with their accomplices from NATO did not fit for him.
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 27 June 2016 19: 26
          +6
          In Turkey, criminal proceedings against the militant of the group "Gray Wolves" Celik resume

          Apparently, Putin clearly hinted to Erdogan that he expects from him not words, but deeds. The resumption of the case against Chelik may be a step towards meeting in the person of Erdogan. And this is most likely not one condition that Putin put before him. As we say: "If you like to ride - love to carry sledges!" And I think: the mountain to which Erdogan will have to carry the "sleigh" will seem to him as high as Ararat.
          1. Karasik
            Karasik 27 June 2016 20: 26
            +4
            Looks like the throne under Erdogash is shaking very much! So actively switched on "reverse gear"! We do not know everything, but this undersultan is probably feeling very strong pressure, both outside and inside. But it's too late! For the complete restoration of friendly relations with Turkey - next to Celik, Erdogash should sit in the dock with all his henchmen!
          2. your1970
            your1970 27 June 2016 22: 16
            +4
            and the people shouted, "Tomatoes, you think ..." ....
            It reached the addressee, the addressee understood and began to rush about, taking into account the fact that now in the EU there is not much time for him and apparently they won’t give money, he will rush about even more.
            And the Russian bureaucratic machine - it’s not so nimble lol ... Until the tomatoes are checked, everyone who needs a lot of time will pass ...
            Suppress as expected ....
        2. APASUS
          APASUS 27 June 2016 20: 05
          +1
          Quote: oleg-gr
          Arrogance from the Sultan begins to fly off gradually. The Americans with their accomplices from NATO did not fit for him.

          Moreover, Erdogan began to guess that they wanted to punish him with “Russian hands.” He is a quick-witted man and slowly begins to see the essence of the situation!
          Today I wrote a letter to Putin and nothing fell from the Sultan’s hat, I had to apologize
        3. Dam
          Dam 27 June 2016 21: 49
          0
          Perdogan apologized to Russia. It remains to receive official compensation, to condemn the killers. And then hang on Perdogan’s fix
          1. Sanya4544
            Sanya4544 28 June 2016 08: 42
            0
            Better to drown.
        4. ferdiperdozzz
          ferdiperdozzz 27 June 2016 22: 22
          0
          Quote: oleg-gr
          Arrogance from the Sultan begins to fly off gradually.

          Yes, already along the way, not gradually, but somehow in one day three things happened, apologies, another statement, now this. Hopefully, they will finish on an adult.
        5. okunevich_rv
          okunevich_rv 28 June 2016 03: 48
          0
          Meanwhile, a spokesman for Turkish President Ibrahim Kalyn some time ago confirmed Erdogan’s apology to Vladimir Putin and the family of the deceased Russian pilot Oleg Peshkov.
          C'mon, the whole spokeswoman said?
          The action was not just public, but deliberately planned and publicized in the press, and then a whole spokesman said.
          And personally and publicly, otherwise in a month Erdogan will say what kind of apology, who told you this secretary? what compensation?
          The secretary of Erdogan is like the tail of a dog where they wag, he hangs there.
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        7. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 28 June 2016 06: 00
          0
          Quote: oleg-gr
          Did Erdogashi realize that GDP acts as an adult? And he doesn’t throw words into the wind. Arrogance from the Sultan begins to fly off gradually. The Americans with their accomplices from NATO did not fit for him.

          Well, this is far. Do you know what Erdogan said?
          “Even in the Erdogan secretariat, a special statement was issued that Erdogan said kusura bakmasınlar, in Russian -“ do not seek. ” This is not entirely an apology, ”Avatkov told Izvestia.
          “Do not exact” - do not be offended. That is, my position is true, firm, although you do not like it.
          And is Peskov giving an apology? It's time to demand blood Peskov, for bullying and forgery!
          1. nekot
            nekot 28 June 2016 09: 19
            0
            The version is also actively supported by Echo)))) By the way, the automatic translator translates kusura bakmasınlar as to apologize, and "do not demand" more "sorry" than "do not be offended", this is a request, a subordinate position. By the way, were Avatkov's words promoted by Izvestia and echoed in reality?))) Here is a completely different version of this comrade's assessment of Erdogan's apology: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2016/06/27/avatkov-izvinenie-erdogana- simvol-togo-ch
            to-turciya-ponyala-svoe-mesto-v-sovremennoy-mirovoy-politike
          2. igorka357
            igorka357 29 June 2016 09: 09
            0
            Do not seek it, don’t be offended ... it’s quicker in an apologetic tone, forgive me, it happened! You have the same root word, the penalty, says something ..?
      3. Altona
        Altona 27 June 2016 22: 16
        0
        Quote: cniza
        Or let them finish them off.

        ----------------
        Shchazz .. Until he is tried for illegal possession of weapons as his lawyer said. He walked, found, I’m going to take it, I don’t want to know anything. I handed over my native machine gun to the police.
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    3. Persistent
      Persistent 27 June 2016 18: 55
      -8
      Just give it to us. The white swan is crying before him.

      Erdogank’s boy with a foul-assed ass is trying to rehabilitate himself before OUR VOVA !!!
      1. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 27 June 2016 19: 19
        +3
        Late, Erdik, drink Borjomi when the kidneys fell off ..
    4. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog 27 June 2016 18: 55
      +3
      Yes bullshit all this !!!!! In the clan they’ll almost give him Nemkdal !!! All this is window dressing !!!!
    5. Wajra-3
      Wajra-3 27 June 2016 19: 14
      +2
      What a "White Swan" - a polar owl. Fertile place. I travel on business, Labytnangi makes an impression ...
    6. RUS96
      RUS96 27 June 2016 19: 36
      +1
      Do not believe the three: don’t believe the woman, don’t believe the Turk, don’t believe the drinker. (Peter the Great)
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      2. Weyland
        Weyland 27 June 2016 20: 34
        +1
        EMNIP, Peter spoke more specifically: do not "trust the Turk", but "sultan do not believe"
        1. Seal
          Seal 27 June 2016 22: 58
          -1
          Proof is it possible? When he said, who heard who recorded?
      3. Seal
        Seal 27 June 2016 22: 58
        -1
        Proof is it possible? When he said, who heard who recorded?
    7. Koshak
      Koshak 28 June 2016 09: 38
      0
      Quote: Dimontius
      Just give it to us. The white swan is crying before him.

      They will not give. He can tell a lot. And why did they find themselves at the right time at the right place, and where did the correspondents suddenly come from ....
  2. St Petrov
    St Petrov 27 June 2016 18: 47
    +4
    there is no former greatness of the Ottomans. So ... Big ambitions with low desires

    Therefore, not here and there, but ... hanging in the hole

    Now, against the backdrop of friendship with Israel, he will again change his mind. And then the EU will bark and change its mind again, then something else will happen and there will be a couple of high-profile statements

    Like a woman during menstruation. Here it is, what is modern Turkey under the ruler of imbecile

  3. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 27 June 2016 18: 49
    +1
    "What previously prevented the Turkish prosecutors from examining the footage of Celik posing in northern Syria remains a mystery ..."

    What a mystery there, the command of the Sultan was not. yes
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 27 June 2016 18: 51
      +8
      never be him a sultan. So - a post before the next election.

      If there was an Ottoman sultan from a family of rulers - he would be ashamed in front of his ancestors to behave this way.

      And so the left character seized power, believed in himself, watched a couple of beautiful TV shows and wanted to be the shadow of Allah on earth ... Yeah. A jackal can and will pull on a shadow - barking around the corner, hiding behind a NATO, US or other large predator block.

      Vile deeds, vile character. Fate is also disgusting to him

  4. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 27 June 2016 18: 49
    +4
    This is ju, ju, ju not casual. Looks like Erdogan was hot, and not just tomatoes, most likely the very tomatoes. We look forward to continuing ......
    1. Scoun
      Scoun 27 June 2016 18: 53
      +4
      Quote: Kos_kalinki9
      Looks like Erdogan’s heat

      Maybe someday he will understand that a bad world is better than war, and that if you are rude to your neighbors, dare, and harm, it will be a return from your neighbors. It seems to me that he quarreled with Turkey with everyone except Azerbaijan.
      IMHA
      We have seen enough of his twists so much that personally it seems to me that he will knock with a vile question about the Kurds ... If the statements of the Kurds correspond to the fact that they destroyed more than 5000 soldiers and the pace is increasing ... in general, Erdogan sensed the arrival of the northern beast.
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 27 June 2016 19: 13
        +1
        We have seen enough of his twists so much that personally it seems to me that he will knock with a vile question about the Kurds.

        And then why. He has a friend. The navel of the whole universe. He even donned the land in the Kherson region. He don’t let a pedro cry in a waistcoat, and he don’t. Two offended.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 27 June 2016 18: 52
    +6
    Something tells me that this pawn will be sacrificed without hesitation. But will they only accept the sacrifice?
  6. Alex_Rarog
    Alex_Rarog 27 June 2016 18: 53
    +3
    Here u r o d! As one famous character said !!!
    Gray wolves in Turkey make up most of the military elite! Erdogan is trying to cross himself from them to whitewash himself in front of us! Although he has always supported and supported them!
    This freak will be released a day after the sentence! No faith to the Turks !!!
    1. nadezhiva
      nadezhiva 27 June 2016 19: 16
      +1
      Quote: Alex_Rarog
      Erdogan is trying to cross himself from them to whitewash himself in front of us! Although he has always supported and supported them!

      Really? Gray wolves seem to be in opposition, both to Erdogan and to the ruling party?
    2. The stranger
      The stranger 28 June 2016 00: 22
      0
      The military elite is from West Point, and the gray wolves are very on the side. And a completely parallel structure.
  7. hirurg
    hirurg 27 June 2016 18: 57
    0
    Wow wolf. A century of will not ...))))
    The pawn is bargaining. And everyone already knows this. Roles will not play.
  8. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 27 June 2016 19: 02
    0
    Put him on the same plane with Erdogad and shoot down !!! Only paroshut not to give them.
    1. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin 27 June 2016 19: 10
      +1
      Quote: Expelling Liberoids
      Put him on the same plane with Erdogad and shoot down !!! Only paroshut not to give them.

      Yes, you can give. Only from the shilka right on the take-off and heap !!!
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 27 June 2016 20: 37
        0
        [quote] Strezhevchan [quote] [/ quoteQuote: The exorcist of liberoids
        Put him on the same plane with Erdogad and shoot down !!! Only do not give them paroshutov.] [/ Quote] [quote] Yes, you can give.

        [/ Quote]
        Yeah, one for two. And let them bicker among themselves.
  9. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 27 June 2016 19: 05
    +6
    The Turks give a return line .. strange people, they don’t keep their words, they started to take theirs .. you can’t turn your back on them in the bathhouse .. negative Actually, they’ve never been men, they would have bent their line to the end, lying like that (I'm talking about the plane) .. Putin said the right thing about tomatoes ... he bent at a merchant, and again defeated the crescent eagle!
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 27 June 2016 19: 15
      +2
      a little patriotism about Russia and Turkey)))
      1. Seal
        Seal 27 June 2016 23: 01
        -1
        A bit of patriotism.
        Like this
        http://xponolog.blogspot.ru/2013/02/blog-post_13.html
        Turks never entered our prisoners

        In the battle of Fraustadt, the incomprehensible, truly bestial cruelty of the Swedes was revealed against the Russians. Indeed, in this combined army of the Saxon General Schulenburg, which suffered such a defeat, there were Saxons, and Poles, and even the French who served in the Saxon army, and, finally, Russians. After its victory, the Swedish army took prisoners all who were not killed and did not have time to escape. Everyone except Russians! "The Russians are also beaten many, and which of the soldiers were taken to the full, and the enemy very mercilessly acted with those, according to the royal decree issued about them before, so that they do not give pardon (or mercy), and rudely put a person in 2 and 3 one at the other stabbed them with spears and baguettes (bayonets). " In this barbaric way, the Swedes exterminated 4 thousand disarmed Russian prisoners after the battle.

        E.V. Tarle.


        Like this http://rosgeroika.ru/geroi-nashego-vremeni/2013/july/lejtenant-shapovalov-oruzhi

        ya-ne-predal Turks also never arrived.
        And in the very center of Leninakan, on the central square of the city, where the Russian guys then continued to share bread and the last shirt with the Armenians who suffered from the earthquake, Lieutenant Alexander Shapovalov, sergeants Yevgeny Poddubnyak and Oleg Yudintsev, privates Mikhail Karpov and Nikolai Maslennikov were greeted with heavy fire automatic weapons and grenade launcher. As experts later calculated, there were 216 holes in the car body of Shapovalov. Bullets and fragments literally tore young bodies and pure bold hearts of children.
        The convoy left without a commander and without security was easily disarmed and returned to the headquarters of the Shirak detachment. There are witnesses who show that they heard a short and terrible phrase thrown by Abrahamyan and the answer to the report of one of his subordinates: “Finish!” Witnesses suggest that one of the five paratroopers was still alive at that time - maybe it was Lieutenant Shapovalov ...
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  10. V.ic
    V.ic 27 June 2016 19: 07
    0
    The "warrior of Allah" standing at the right hand of the scoundrel is very similar to Rezyap ibn Taip Erdogan.
  11. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 27 June 2016 19: 15
    +3
    Someone pinched Erdogan’s tail so strongly that he gave such a sharp turn to the side, which, in fact, after his previous statements, means a complete loss of face. Actually, in Turkey, the army traditionally intervenes in the activities of the upper authorities. Maybe this time ... just hinted.
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 27 June 2016 19: 47
      +3
      Someone pinched Erdogan’s tail so much ...
      I also thought about it ... if it was a "diabetic" Poroshenko voiced ... then everything would be clear, but Erdogan ... they don't tell us something - some kind of redistribution is going on, and it looks like a redistribution of Europe ...
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  12. Vasya353
    Vasya353 27 June 2016 19: 20
    +2
    Quote: Dimontius
    Just give it to us. The white swan is crying before him.

    He will not reach the white swan.
  13. Olegater
    Olegater 27 June 2016 19: 25
    +2
    In Turkey, criminal proceedings against the militant of the group "Gray Wolves" Celik resume And then we have some joy from this. Now, if he had been hanged or drowned in the city of A.M. then yes it was normal that this terrorist deserved. Well, at the same time and fart for the company - got it.
    1. your1970
      your1970 27 June 2016 22: 28
      +1
      Olegater
      "And we are happy with this"
      And the most straightforward joy is exactly the same situation why PS (having full power, weapons, money, etc.) in 404 country runs into Balaclava.Do not think - why and who are afraid?
      Everything is simple - but you never know, you never know, but what if ...
      Issuing this siskin (if it happens!) Will show everyone that the government will "buy and sell them, buy and sell them again" - at the slightest political / economic need.
      And this is sooooo all other handouts for such people ........
      You can be a terrorist behind someone else’s mighty back / roof - and so, out of naked ideological motives, fools have long since been bred ...
  14. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 27 June 2016 19: 29
    0
    Well, God willing, they will pack the barmaley. Meanwhile, in one "overseas" country:
    Ukrainian troops underwent an internship in Germany based on the US armed forces.
    Judging by the photographs published on the website of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, servicemen of the 80th separate airborne assault brigade of the airborne forces of the Ukrainian armed forces took practical classes with rubber models of small arms.http: //www.trud.ru/article/27-06-2016 / 1339053_na_baze_vs_ssha_ukrai
    nskix_
    desantnikov_vooruzhili_rezinovymi_avtomatami.html
  15. Bramb
    Bramb 27 June 2016 19: 37
    +3
    Everyone threw Erdogash: both the Americans and the Europeans. And because of them, he quarreled with Russia.
    The idiot realized: he was simply framed and thrown.
    Now Erdogan is not up to political ambitions: many Turkish billionaires have lost and are losing money because of his actions. And they don’t need him ... He is already just for life, he is fighting for his skin. He has nowhere to go.
    1. 3vs
      3vs 27 June 2016 19: 57
      +3
      Yes, nothing came to him, it seems they pressed their own, there are no tourists,
      huge losses ...
      Let's see what happens next.
  16. Abbra
    Abbra 27 June 2016 20: 10
    +1
    I imagine and fantasize how Putin walks through his office, smoking a pipe. The secretary comes to him and says:

    - Mr. Erdogad sent his apologies!

    Putin (exhaling fragrant tobacco in a lush mustache): - Late, Mr. Erdogan ... Late ...
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 28 June 2016 05: 18
      0
      It was like that already. A week after the downing of the Russian plane, they were already trying to apologize through the Foreign Ministry. But somehow awkward. To which Mr. Lavrov said, "late."
  17. dmitriyruss
    dmitriyruss 27 June 2016 20: 10
    0
    Knowing our Darkest, I won’t be surprised if Erdogan is so competently cornered that he will betray Chelik of Russia
    1. Abbra
      Abbra 27 June 2016 20: 43
      0
      ... and myself ... hi
    2. Lexa-149
      Lexa-149 27 June 2016 20: 49
      0
      Yeah! On a silver platter with a blue border! Or it will simply crash it and be trumpeted about it in the media. Giving him away is not at all reasonable, because he knows too much.
      1. dmitriyruss
        dmitriyruss 27 June 2016 22: 11
        0
        100% for having got to us, Celik can tell too much
  18. Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 27 June 2016 20: 13
    +1
    Eva how! And with what loud words he rushed before! How bent his fingers! ...
  19. AlexTires
    AlexTires 27 June 2016 20: 18
    +1
    Chelik is being made a scapegoat, so don't applaud this news. Erdogan was pressed ... ooo, that's why a letter from the Turkish "sultan" appeared, which our merciful authorities will swallow, despite the fact that the Turks did it ...
  20. masiya
    masiya 27 June 2016 20: 24
    0
    Inshallah and Allah Ahbar to him, this creature has no place on our land, let him take it worthy ... DEATH, from us or the Turks, one hell is the main well-deserved retribution ... And Erdogan forgiveness anyway, only conditionally can receive, and not even any previous preferences ...
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 27 June 2016 20: 30
      +3
      Erdogan would have apologized anyway ... sooner or later, but that would have happened. I personally am simply shocked by today's news .. Many underestimate Putin, and he just quietly puts Europe on his knees ...
    2. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 27 June 2016 20: 30
      0
      Erdogan would have apologized anyway ... sooner or later, but that would have happened. I personally am simply shocked by today's news .. Many underestimate Putin, and he just quietly puts Europe on his knees ...
  21. ivanych
    ivanych 27 June 2016 20: 26
    0
    .... the Turks are trying by all means to restore relations, and then you apologize and Chelyk for the gills, what else is this Busurman snout ready for? Looks like Erdagashka is hot? crying
  22. newcomer
    newcomer 27 June 2016 20: 33
    +3
    Well now, as I understand it, an apology should go: a life-long pension to the family of our hero pilot, compensation for the plane. and the family of the deceased hero of the Marine also has a life-long pension, because the death of a rescuer is a consequence of the downing of our su.
  23. newcomer
    newcomer 27 June 2016 20: 37
    +2
    yes somoe main_ bravo, honor and glory to our GDP. he gave this gad.dyshka Turkish, no matter what, no one.
  24. Sanche
    Sanche 27 June 2016 20: 44
    +1
    Writing is not serious. Only a public apology!
  25. alfa19638
    alfa19638 27 June 2016 20: 52
    0
    To believe the Turks and in particular Erdogan is either to be naive or to provoke a conflict situation, and our leaders will speak of betrayal by the vile Turkish leadership.
  26. DHA
    DHA 27 June 2016 20: 55
    0
    I don’t believe the Turks, let this man be given out to Russia, in our zones he will quickly drop from him.
  27. DHA
    DHA 27 June 2016 21: 01
    +1
    Only Bulgaria began to flatter hope for the revival of South Stream, which was renamed Bulgarian Stream, as a Gazprom spokesman commented on the news of Erdogan's apology: "We have always been open to dialogue on Turkish Stream, and are still open." Can you imagine what will begin in Europe now?
    http://finobzor.ru/show-15820-turcii-predlozhili-prodat-interesy-kieva.html
  28. Nelepost
    Nelepost 27 June 2016 21: 01
    +1
    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s message to Russian leader Vladimir Putin didn’t say “excuse me,” the director of the Center for Oriental Studies, International Relations and Public Diplomacy, Turkologist Vladimir Avatkov, said.

    “Even in Erdogan’s secretariat, a special statement was issued that Erdogan said kusura bakmasınlar, in Russian -“ do not seek ”. This is not entirely an apology, ”Avatkov told Izvestia.
    The expert also noted that Erdogan, speaking in parliament today, said that if faced with the fact of “violating the border,” he would have done the same, meaning the name the Russian bomber shot down by the Turkish Air Force in November last year.
    http://rusvesna.su/news/1467049095

    And then all went straight ...
    1. Seal
      Seal 27 June 2016 23: 09
      +2
      Our President has enough professional translators. And no less professional Turkologists. And it doesn’t matter what verb Erdogan used. The main thing is that we agreed that it was precisely apology. If you didn’t want to accept an apology, you wouldn’t have accepted it, had Erdogan used at least all the verbs in the Turkish language that indicate a particular form of apology.
  29. private person
    private person 27 June 2016 21: 05
    -1
    Everything is messy, just a message about Edragon's apology flashed in the press, and now he will again be our "best friend". And this release about the resumption of the case against the bang, sweet bone, EVERYTHING IS NOTHING TO HIM. Well, the edge will announce his supposedly sudden death, he knows a lot.
  30. Prisoner
    Prisoner 27 June 2016 21: 07
    -1
    Adopted at do rock. What did you count on? They won’t give up theirs, ours will get it sooner or later. They always get it, as statistics show.
  31. 1 Nikita
    1 Nikita 27 June 2016 21: 08
    +2
    Well, I apologized and what's next? Let’s go? Forgive and "make friends" again? After all, there are actions in life that are not forgiven. Meanness should not be forgiven with any apology. One's dignity (especially the State) must be preserved.
    1. Seal
      Seal 27 June 2016 23: 10
      -1
      Type in Google "Lieutenant Shapovalov did not betray his weapon." Was it mean or what?
  32. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 27 June 2016 21: 15
    0
    TURKEY IS LIKE A SERIOUS COUNTRY AND WILL BE MYSELF AS A POLITICAL P .... like Poland ....
  33. faterdom
    faterdom 27 June 2016 21: 21
    +2
    I remember that not so long ago the prankers Vovan and Lexus, on behalf of "Pedro's friend", asked Erdogan: "I hope you are not going to apologize to Putin?", To which they received an emotional negative response, about which the Murzilki immediately wrote an imperishable "I called, I called , I called Erdogan ... "
    It is time to call them again, on behalf of Obama, or someone else to find out in a friendly way the level of sincerity of apologies.
    But in general, the comrade realized that he was in, and that his own allies decided to personally merge it (which can be considered a sentence in Turkey) - that is why he took an unthinkable step. The head is more expensive than shame.
  34. Number 17
    Number 17 27 June 2016 21: 21
    +2
    And where is the fighter pilot who was waiting for our Su24 in the airspace. Where is his commander who gave the nod to the downing of the aircraft ????? What is the use of this arrow on earth
    1. lukke
      lukke 27 June 2016 22: 31
      0
      And where is the fighter pilot who was waiting for our Su24 in the airspace. Where is his commander who gave the nod to the downing of the aircraft ????? What is the use of this arrow on earth
      a co-scribe of absolution was appointed - the Turkish Natsik Chelik, who was in that area and, as a complete ram in his youth and vanity, was promoted on the death of a Russian pilot in front of the cameras (although it is not a fact that the bullets were fired from his weapons) . But we won’t recognize the real killers and organizers - at best, the Turks will give us for them the recently killed Turkoman fighters and their pilots who were shot down).
      1. Number 17
        Number 17 27 June 2016 23: 13
        0
        Yes. Something like this will be. It's just that my father always says, it is necessary to eliminate the causes and not the consequences. The consequences are the shooter on the ground. The reason is ho ho. The Phasington Regional Committee. Cru. Only there nonhumans can give a command. As was the case with an almost forgotten plane allegedly shot down by what DNR does not have a priori. Precipitation is not that. The family of the deceased pilot will help little. I can add that where I live in Simferopol there is or was an initiative to rename ul.turetskaya in memory of the deceased pilot by His Surname. And yet, comrades do not think that I am untrammeled. I am writing from the phone, and there it is not always convenient to insert a punctuation mark. Admins put me Tricolor.
    2. Seal
      Seal 27 June 2016 23: 15
      -1
      Was in that bus with the pilots that exploded. https://lenta.ru/news/2016/02/19/turkeypilots/

      Who is the customer? The main law of the investigation says - look for someone who benefits. That is, in any crime, the one to whom the results of this crime brought or could bring the greatest benefit is most likely to blame. And if the question is posed: "Who was most profitable for the Turks to shoot down our plane," then what would be the answer? 1. Beneficial to Erdogan? Hardly. Elections have already passed and his party won them. It is no coincidence that Erdogan looked like a puppy who has nabbed on the carpet and sees a pile on the carpet, realizes that it is a pile - him, but he won’t understand how it happened. Yes, he said a lot of things. But really, he was not going to the carpet. So he rushed about, absolutely not understanding what to do and say in this situation. 2. Favorable USA? Perhaps, but hardly now. The United States would have done this at the very beginning of our operation in Syria, when ours bombed mainly the "moderate opposition" loved by the United States and really flew into Turkish airspace. 3. Beneficial to Israel? Possible. Turkey with its agricultural products blocked the way of Israeli products to our market. But this purely commercial problem for Israel poses no threat, either politically, geopolitically, or militarily. That is, it’s absolutely not worth it to bring down our plane. 4. Beneficial to ISIS? Yes, ISIS, and indeed the entire Syrian opposition, is extremely beneficial for Turkey to bring down our plane. They could expect that ours would be distracted from the Syrian operation, mired in a showdown with Turkey. Does ISIS and other opposition have the resources to do this? Yes, there is. The pilot or his commanders can be persuaded, bribed or intimidated. 5. Profitable Turkish opposition? Yes too. After the recent elections, all Turkish opposition realized that Erdogan would not be removed in the near future by parliamentary means. And since, although anti-Erdogan sentiments are not strong in the Turkish army, they are still there, it is not surprising that the Turkish opposition, including the army, found a suitable pilot, who could even be not a supporter of the Turkish opposition, but on the contrary, a supporter of the "gray wolves" and gave him the appropriate command. Which, moreover, was precisely in line with the loud public statements of Erdogan himself. 6. And further. There is one country that is considered our "ally", but which was very jealous and extremely irritated watching the rapprochement between Russia and Turkey, which has intensified in recent years. Unlike Israel, for which the rapprochement between Turkey and Russia, although it was commercially unprofitable, was not threatened either politically or militarily, this country perceived the rapprochement of Turkey and Russia as a primary and clear threat to its geopolitical interests. Moreover, this country has every opportunity to force the United States to participate in the preparation and provision of this provocation. After all, the lobby of the nation that inhabits this country is the second most powerful and powerful in the United States, after the Israeli lobby.
  35. raivo1960
    raivo1960 27 June 2016 21: 38
    +1
    Erdogan apologizes to Vladimir Putin and the family of the deceased Russian pilot Oleg Peshkov.
    You can’t believe him! Will betray and sell at the first opportunity !!!
  36. Horde
    Horde 27 June 2016 21: 39
    -1
    crush to bloody snot. to the complete destruction of this under-state. GIVE THE SOUTH RUSSIAN REPUBLIC on the Straits
    1. Seal
      Seal 28 June 2016 05: 14
      -1
      What, they wanted the Third World? Turkey is still a member of NATO !!
      Okay, even if NATO does not join and we win, then the 35-40 million Turks living in Istanbul and the Sea of ​​Marmara with straits, what - will we issue our passports?
      Or all of them - to Siberia?
      And most importantly - why?
      The Turks for the maintenance of Istanbul now rip the whole country. There, it costs a few billion dollars for one sewer. What, will we peel our country so that the Istanbul sewage system meets world standards?
      And from a military point of view?
      Greece is a member of NATO.
      NATO and the USA, first of all, on the very first Greek island that shuts down the Dardanelles - Lemnos - will equip their missile and artillery base and will keep the Dardanelles under such fire that their mother does not grieve. So, do you think it will be necessary to take the Greek islands in the Aegean too? And then about. Crete and Rhodes - since they close the way out of the Aegean, right? And then Gibraltar will pull you too, right? After all, the Mediterranean Sea is a closed sea !!!
  37. alexleony
    alexleony 27 June 2016 21: 46
    +1
    Quote: 1 Nikita
    Well, I apologized and what's next? Let’s go? Forgive and "make friends" again? After all, there are actions in life that are not forgiven. Meanness should not be forgiven with any apology. One's dignity (especially the State) must be preserved.

    The Russian people are not vindictive and know how to forgive. This feature distinguishes a truly great people.
    1. 1 Nikita
      1 Nikita 27 June 2016 22: 08
      +1
      Yes Yes. And the Bible said, "If you get hit on one cheek, turn the other." So after all, others will continue to do mean things. You cannot forgive this under any circumstances, especially since our plane was shot down on purpose. It is necessary to answer in such a way that no one has such thoughts. And to know that the answer will be required. Then they will both respect and fear.
      1. Seal
        Seal 28 June 2016 05: 19
        -1
        Great words. But the law works when it applies to absolutely everyone. And if it is applied to these, but not to these, then there will be nothing good from him. A specific question - do these your requirements apply to?
        http://rosgeroika.ru/geroi-nashego-vremeni/2013/july/lejtenant-shapovalov-oruzhi
        ya-ne-predal
        If the link does not work, type in the GUGLE the expression "Lieutenant Shapovalov did not betray his weapon."
        The group of lieutenant Shapovalov was also shot exclusively on purpose !!!
  38. Chisxnumxdiman
    Chisxnumxdiman 27 June 2016 21: 55
    0
    Do I have a feeling, or does it seem to me that Celik has become the scapegoat of Erdogan?
  39. Abbra
    Abbra 27 June 2016 21: 59
    +1
    Sorry, colleagues, but you don’t understand something ... The Turks decided to blame ALL on this Chelyk related to our relationship. I will not be surprised that Celik will be implicated in the murder of Nemtsov .... lol
  40. megafair
    megafair 27 June 2016 22: 21
    +1
    Quote: Source_in_Izmir_'s prosecutor’s office
    Now, according to a source in the Izmir prosecutor’s office, Celiku may be charged with participation in the murder of Russian marine Alexander Pozynich.

    But nothing that this group has already taken?
    1. Skubudu
      Skubudu 27 June 2016 23: 41
      0
      And where is the TOW operator now? His death was not shown, the body either.
      Waiting for trial on the territory of the Russian Federation?
  41. Plamenvarna
    Plamenvarna 27 June 2016 22: 38
    +6
    What the Turks did:
    - this is not a tragic mistake,
    - not "friendly fire"
    - not an arrow of uncontrolled radicals
    - a wrong political course has been or will be corrected by someone,
    - not murder under pressure from overseas curators,
    - There was a deliberate anticipation and public spitting in your face.

    Doshihpor Turks only hated you (you are not your money)

    If you accept the apologies of these thugs, or God forbid, vyklyanite some compensation, then they will also despise you.
    ---
    Such humiliation does not cost either Turkish beaches or Turkish tomatoes.
    1. Seal
      Seal 27 June 2016 23: 17
      -1
      Type in Google "Lieutenant Shapovalov did not betray his weapon."
      The link unfortunately does not work periodically.
      http://rosgeroika.ru/geroi-nashego-vremeni/2013/july/lejtenant-shapovalov-oruzhi
      ya-ne-predal
  42. voronbel53
    voronbel53 27 June 2016 23: 12
    0
    So it will be Erdogash constantly hooled us, and we believe him. If we forgive him and believe, - the price is worthless to us, this is what we need - it’s not even gullibility, but stupid forgiveness, because of which crimes will continue to be committed, and criminals consider us to be boobies of the king of heaven and despise ... we’ll stop respecting ourselves after that ...
  43. Gvas1174
    Gvas1174 27 June 2016 23: 19
    0
    It's funny, I hope that relations will be restored very gradually, then the Russian should work slowly, otherwise tourism will also be replaced by import substitution. Not dropped to the end of the Turks. It’s necessary to squeeze differently - it’s all useless
  44. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 27 June 2016 23: 39
    +2
    Putin nevertheless taught Erdogan new poses. so soon he will know the kamasutra by heart Mr. Erdogan. but seriously .. then not knowing the ford, do not get into the water.
  45. viktor.
    viktor. 28 June 2016 01: 03
    0
    Quote: Gvas1174
    It's funny, I hope that relations will be restored very gradually, then the Russian should work slowly, otherwise tourism will also be replaced by import substitution. Not dropped to the end of the Turks. It’s necessary to squeeze differently - it’s all useless

    I agree to crush mercilessly both Erdos and Eurogays, I think it’s enough to forgive everyone, we always forgive everyone and we have always been punished for our kindness. The sanctions of the response can only be strengthened at the very time with their own whip in their own right. we will not survive. We’ll survive.
  46. Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 28 June 2016 01: 28
    +7
    Quote: Dimontius
    Just give it to us. The "White Swan" cries before him.

    In the words of the hero of one cartoon - and you are evil .. / :-) but it’s probably not agree with you
  47. viktor.
    viktor. 28 June 2016 01: 37
    +1
    Erdogashi's message to RUSSIA read it kills the hypocritical phrase "RUSSIA is a friend and partner" the enemy will not wish such a friend !!! It's good when the dog is a friend of man, but we ourselves saw when (the FRIEND) turned out to be a dog.
    1. Seal
      Seal 28 June 2016 05: 23
      -1
      All Armenian presidents say the same thing. Moreover, they say that Russia is the BEST friend and ally.

      And is it nothing that was such a case?

      http://rosgeroika.ru/geroi-nashego-vremeni/2013/july/lejtenant-shapovalov-oruzhi

      ya-ne-predal

      If the link does not work, type in the GUGLE the expression "Lieutenant Shapovalov did not betray his weapon."

      And in the very center of Leninakan, on the central square of the city, where the Russian guys then continued to share bread and the last shirt with the Armenians who suffered from the earthquake, Lieutenant Alexander Shapovalov, sergeants Yevgeny Poddubnyak and Oleg Yudintsev, privates Mikhail Karpov and Nikolai Maslennikov were greeted with heavy fire automatic weapons and grenade launcher. As experts later calculated, there were 216 holes in the car body of Shapovalov. Bullets and fragments literally tore young bodies and pure bold hearts of children.
      The convoy left without a commander and without security was easily disarmed and returned to the headquarters of the Shirak detachment. There are witnesses who show that they heard a short and terrible phrase thrown by Abrahamyan and the answer to the report of one of his subordinates: “Finish!” Witnesses suggest that one of the five paratroopers was still alive at that time - maybe it was Lieutenant Shapovalov ...
  48. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 28 June 2016 04: 30
    0
    Perpetrators of execution and mockery should be punished. Celik, or someone else, doesn’t matter. Normal will never do that.