BTR Boxer for Lithuania

The German industrial association ARTEC has recently demonstrated to the Lithuanian military delegation a prototype GTK Boxer (8х8) wheeled armored personnel carrier in a Lithuanian-ordered version with an Israeli-made Samson Mk 2 combat module (Rafael), Lithuanian Supreme Commander Jonas Jukas told Facebook.

“For about a year now, the Lithuanian side has been negotiating with the ARTEC consortium to purchase GTK Boxer armored personnel carriers for the Lithuanian army 88. Initially, the Lithuanian Ministry of Defense selected the Boxer option in 2015 in the so-called PuBo configuration ("Puma-Boxer") with the KMW RCT-30 uninhabited tower with 30-mm Rheinmetall MK 30-2 / ABM automatic cannon (this tower is equipped with the new German BMP Puma) and with enhanced protection of the machine and with the equipment of the tower launchers of the Israeli ATGM Rafael Spike. However, at the beginning of 2016, the Lithuanians found this option too costly, and requested the installation of a modified Samson Mk 2 modular combat module on the Boxer - also with an 30-mm ATK Orbital Bushmaster Mk 44 automatic cannon and with a Spike ATKM retractable system, ”commented the message Jukas blog bmpd.

Meanwhile, Jukas noted that the presented version of the combat module is not final. Nevertheless, he considers it possible to sign the contract in July of this year. Before signing the contract, ARTEC will deliver another prototype armored vehicle with the same combat module to Lithuania for testing.

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[Mountain shooter]

And what? Good German car, with a good Israeli combat module. Yes, even if there are hundreds of them in service with Lithuanian warriors - what will change?
Let yourself have fun.

[Comrade Schucher]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Let yourself have fun.

There’s something else, it’s just amazing the enthusiasm with which they create the reason why the Russians will be forced to slam them like garbage flies in the event of their attack of a team (NATO) against Russia.

[svp67]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Yes, even if there are hundreds of them in service with Lithuanian warriors - what will change?

Judging by their dimensions and the quantity ordered, there will be something to show at the parades.

[aba]

then in the parades there will be something to show.

Only it will be necessary to put a reduction gear that would not go fast. And for this the Germans will take extra money. no matter how, modernization or adaptation!

[Comrade Schucher]

Quote: svp67

then in parades there will be something to show

If you are talking about that fun video from YouTube, with poisonous comments by the author, then yes ...

I can’t insert the picture, but here is the link http://mtdata.ru/u25/photoA309/20033448865-0/huge.jpeg

Damn ... and it doesn't work. Well, in general, where adult uncles ran in cardboard planes.

[Forever so]

Are these the same American invisible planes ?? that crazy billions are worth ?? Although yes, the pilot got on his knees and you’ll see this plane !!!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

. Yes, even if there are hundreds of them in service with Lithuanian warriors - what will change?

Even as they change, they will declare themselves superpowers.

[bulvas]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Mountain Shooter

. Yes, even if there are hundreds of them in service with Lithuanian warriors - what will change?

Even as they change, they will declare themselves superpowers.

Microregional

[Lopatov]

Two motorized infantry brigades for a country the size of Lithuania are quite a lot ...

In addition, consider this fact: when they want to exclusively defend themselves from a neighbor, they develop primarily anti-tank weapons. Technology perfectly developed by European NATO countries during the confrontation with the ATS. And with the size of Lithuania, the already available M113 would be enough for them. Well, maybe even more cheap armored cars to buy for a quick transfer of infantry to the front line.

And then there are machines sharpened for combat operations in the depths of the enemy's defense, in the absence of his "heavy" units ...

What task do NATO strategists pose to the Lithuanians, and what kind of war are they going to wage?

[Maksus]

The entrance to Boxer looks better than to Finnish Patria, it’s a bit crowded there.
In general, despite the enormous dimensions, these BMPs are not very spacious inside.

[Alex_Rarog]

Hitler in his grave turned over from such cooperation))))

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Maksus

In general, despite the enormous dimensions, these BMPs are not very spacious inside

However, the German infantry squad is placed there, and with all the junk.

Quote: Spade

What task do NATO strategists pose to the Lithuanians, and what kind of war are they going to wage?

The Estonian Minister of Defense can also give a hint. He does not hide the fact that he does not hide the nature of the Saber Strike exercises (“Saber Strike”):

During the current maneuvers, the fighters of our 1st Infantry Brigade and the military from the 2nd Cavalry Regiment of the US Army capture of certain objects of a potential enemyand interaction between land and air forces. At the second stage, training firing using live ammunition will take place. This will involve both attack aircraft and helicopters, as well as the HIMARS missile system and 777 mm M155 cannons.https://www.gazeta.ru/social/2016/06/17/8312945.shtml

It is also worth adding that the Latvian advanced aircraft controllers (air controllers in NATO) were the first to receive a training system from the National Guards of the United States, and now 3 Baltic countries + Poland are training together. Moreover, not only the Lithuanian "Albatrosses" are controlled, but also the Polish F- 16 and helicopters.
All work on the air and messages are strictly in English. The internship took place in Afghanistan and Iceland and the Federal Republic of Germany. They are no longer very similar to the "forest brothers", although dangerous wolf habits certainly remained in the descendants.

[clidon]

Well, probably a good state of the sun will change the cost of aggression, for example. This is probably why countries are arming themselves?

[marlin1203]

German armored vehicles with an Israeli combat module? .. top of tolerance

[clidon]

Well, if Germans build submarines for Jews, then why be surprised?

[grau]

Large coffin on wheels

[rumiigo]

You're not right. It is a decent car.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: grau

Large coffin on wheels

On the Censor, under the photo of Armata komenty, like yours. How old are you, dear?

[ALEA IACTA EST]

Why goat bayan?

[Edward72]

Well, they will buy 88 armored bibiks, and then they will eat, or the last x .. they will eat without salt.

[APASUS]

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Quote: Edward72

Well, they will buy 88 armored bibiks, and then they will eat, or the last x .. they will eat without salt.

So I really wanted to know who would pay for this whole banquet, but the amount really turned out to be huge for a ford ford, in the region of 220 mil $.

[Wolka]

88 armored personnel carrier for the army of Lithuania, and if the army in general has this country

[Max repp]

A good device must be. But why should they? Or from the principle "Look what kind of thing I have (puffs out her cheeks) right now, like a lady in the neck"

[Altona]

Quote: Maks Repp

A good machine should be. But why do they need it?

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This is their "two-in-one". Lithuania cannot afford both an armored personnel carrier and a tank, tanks. Well, they need some kind of armored vehicles armed with a cannon.

[Taygerus]

will rent Latvia and Estonia for parades for rent

[Altona]

Quote: Taygerus

will rent Latvia and Estonia for parades for rent

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They themselves from Estonia used to rent two T-55 tanks for training.

[Evil 55]

Is Jonas Zhukas Vanyok Zhukov in our opinion? Well, almost Georgy Konstantinovich thinks of himself this little Tsakhes ..

[Pitot]

Yes, let them gain more technology .... if that, I think, there will be one funnel in place of sprat eaters, but dough is necessary to contain all this, a lot. Let them spend ....

[Dwarfik]

Judging by the picture, the combat module is an excellent target that will fly off by 10 meters in case of a hit.

[ARES623]

Like all German cars, the "boxer" is quite expensive. And given the possible installation on some types of our BTT 57-mm module, the boxer is also "not very relevant." Bearing in mind that Germany is a “nursing mother” for Lithuania, she (Germany) got the right to force Lithuania to finance its military-industrial complex by purchasing a car that is not very necessary for Lithuania. Lithuania has the relevant experience of such spending, they still do not know how to taxi with the LNG terminal, and then the "boxer" arrived in time. As a popular Lithuanian proverb says - we know the way, we love the sekas ...

[prior]

The beautiful chariot of unarmed demonstrators to disperse! And the RPG target is wonderful. Again - awesome parades can be held.

[Banishing liberoids]

Is there enough dough for service? Will it come out like with the Polish leopards-bought and put rusted under the fence?

[voyaka uh]

Where did you get this? Polish Leopards regularly participate
in exercises, recently took 3rd place in the NATO "tank biathlon".
In general, the situation in Poland has changed over the past 5 years. The crisis is over. They invest heavily in industry (Germany and the Netherlands). They have money.