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Nazis loved variety show in Ukraine

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Nazis loved variety show in Ukraine



Shot from the film: Lyuba Shevtsova famously dances her fierce dance before the sprawling, swaggering, drunken Wehrmacht officers, and at this time the Young Guard guys are harming the German occupiers. It was in Ukraine that most of all were the theaters and amateur groups that appeared before the invaders.

Nazi aggression against the Soviet Union was accompanied by the development of a whole complex of not only military, economic, administrative, but also cultural propaganda activities in the occupied territories, aimed both at implementing the goals of the occupation policy towards the local population and at ensuring the proper morale of the Wehrmacht military personnel. A certain place in the arsenal of the means used was occupied by theatrical art.

The conditions of wartime, the peculiarities of the regime in different zones of occupation, ethnic specificity led to some peculiarities of cultural and, in particular, theatrical politics in the occupied territory.



A well-known photograph where actress Olga Chekhova examines a German plane.

According to the plans of the Third Reich Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels, the German theater groups acting from the organization “Strength through Joy” (“Kraft durh Freude”, hereinafter KdF) were responsible for providing the Wehrmacht units at the front and rear. By the way, the same organization belonged to the liner "Wilhelm Gustloff", which became for the Nazis the embodiment of the ideal ship. This “ideal” in 1945 destroyed the torpedo attack of Alexander Marinescu.



How so! They loved to rest after arduous battles and many hours of shooting of the civilian population. They had to rest in the company of friends and artists.



For this - what kind of foresight! - KdF was created, which initially had quite good goals: to provide organized leisure for the German labor force. True, in the center of the emblem of the organization has already turned black swastika, from which the blood-red traces spread around. The fascists lured the workers into their organization, promising them to travel on liners to the shores of Norway, Spain and Italy, organized excursions, concerts, theater and opera performances, art exhibitions. The Nazis kept their promises then. True, then, already on the eastern front.

In KdV new departments appear.

The implementation of theatrical policy in the occupied territory, including under military control, was also influenced by the Reich ministry of the occupied eastern regions led by Alfred Rosenberg through the special headquarters “Theater” created in the press and propaganda department of the ministry in 1942.

However, the key factor that determined the parameters and possibilities of using the means of theatrical art in the region during the entire period of occupation was the Wehrmacht, its propaganda structures. As noted in the draft “Guidelines for the activities of departments and propaganda teams in the occupied areas of the Soviet Union,” “theater and musical life, as well as other areas of art (ballet, variety, etc.), must be constantly monitored, they need to be influenced and managed in our interests. ” This implied the use of theater groups in the occupied territory for the purpose of cultural support of the local population and the Wehrmacht.

The work of the theaters would have been impossible without a request for this form of cultural life from the local population and local initiative. The organization of professional theater groups was the result of the activities of initiative groups or local self-government bodies (city and district governments), which, in solving such issues, were in direct contact with the military authorities and required their approval.

Theater establishments on the territory of Ukraine began their work soon after the occupation began. This process went much faster in those places where even before the war there were professional theater groups. The first autumn of 1941 of the year, Yuzovsky resumed his work (before and after the occupation - Stalino, and from the middle of 1961 of the year - Donetsk) the Ukrainian Music and Drama Theater. From the middle of 1942, it was renamed the City Opera and Ballet Theater, and since July, 1943 received a new status and name - “Frontal Opera Stalino”.

Around the same time, theaters in Kharkov and Mariupol began to work. Theater groups, professional or amateur, during the occupation operated in other cities and towns.

How so! German soldiers had to rest after the arduous work of shooting civilians. They loved to rest. The theater management system had to meet the goals of ensuring cultural recreation for Wehrmacht servicemen and ensure that the scene was not used for political purposes. In the U Propaganda Department Report (Ukraine) of September 1 of 1942, the need to supervise the activities of theaters “with a view to preventing their use for reactionary tsarist, Great Russian, Ukrainian nationalist and Bolshevik purposes” was explicitly stated.

All key issues of theater activity were resolved only in agreement with the occupation administration. Ensuring proper control over the work of theatrical institutions was entrusted to theater bosses, who were appointed from among officers of the commandant's offices. In some cases, the German military, who had certain professional knowledge, in parallel served as directors or artistic directors. For example, in the Yuzovsky Music and Drama Theater, the former actor and director of the Munich Opera, Tony Grashberger, was appointed artistic director.

Theaters operating in the hone of the military administration, as a rule, were subordinate to the city government. They, in turn, were supervised by local commandant's offices or propaganda agencies. At least one of the theaters, the Yuzovsky Music and Drama Theater, was subsequently completely directly subordinated to the garrison commandant's office Yuzovka, during which even a branch of the city theater was created. This was done because the theater in Yuzovka acquired key importance in the speeches in front of Wehrmacht soldiers on the entire southern wing of the Soviet-German front.

Work with the soldiers of the Wehrmacht became the main goal of theatrical institutions. This is confirmed not only by the Nazi program set-up in matters of cultural policy in the occupied territory, but also by the information on the theaters' current work: the number of visitors — German soldiers, and theater group visits.

A significant role in the organization of productions for Wehrmacht soldiers in Ukraine was played at the end of 1941 by the initiative of the 17 Army headquarters (its rear area at that time included part of the Stalin, Kharkiv, and Dnepropetrovsk regions) theater, created mainly from the residents of Gorlovka, Dzherzhinsk and Stavyansk . Considering that one troupe was not enough for a performance before the fascist army dispersed on a wide front, the German propaganda department ordered that three more theater groups be organized in Lozova, Kramatorsk and Konstantinovka. However, due to the Soviet offensive, the troupe created in Lozovoi was dissolved in January 1942, having managed to give 26 performances for 13 400 to German viewers in Lozova, Kramatorsk, hospitals, wounded collection points for a month.

Trips to the front of theater and concert brigades, specially formed from the troupe of stationary theater institutions for performances in front of German and Italian military units, were widely practiced. So, in April 1942 of the year already the fourth brigade of actors of the Yuzovsky Music Drama Theater and the Variety and Miniatures Theater as part of 30 people visited the German front parts with concerts. As of October 1942, the concert brigade of the Mariupol Theater named after T.G. Shevchenko under the direction of I. Yagupova gave 122 a concert directly at the front.

The German command liked the work of theater groups. In addition to the brigades formed from the stationary theaters, the Wehrmacht units also served small amateur groups, which, as a rule, in the reports were called groups by the name of their leaders. In the spring of 1943, active work in the 1st tank Wehrmacht armies carried out groups of Korolev and Tkachenko. In addition to them, two variety theater groups created in Chistyakovo (now Torez) and Krasniy Luch performed in parts of the 17th Army Corps.

During 25 March - 7 on April 1943, the Korolev group in the rear zone of the 40 tank corps performed 16 performances with the total number of viewers in 2270 people. In the period from 1 to 16 on June 1943 of the year in the 17 zone of the army corps, which was stationed in the Donbass, the Shevelev concert group gave 19 performances with 4785 spectators.

In addition to performances directly in military units actors theaters, members of amateur theater companies performed in hospitals, rest homes, casinos. The program, as a rule, included small drama performances, musical numbers, performances of jugglers, magicians, dancers.

The entire repertoire was viewed in advance by the responsible persons of the commandant's offices.
Visits to theaters became a peculiar form of encouraging German soldiers, who were taken to performances and concerts right from the front line by organized groups. That was how the servicemen of the units that occupied the defense on the Mius-front visited theaters in Yuzovka and Taganrog. Especially intensive trips were carried out in the spring and summer of 1943, for which a permanent route was even developed. And then the Germans stopped carrying the performances - the Soviet troops gave them a real theater of military operations and showed who the main character was at the front.
The repertoire, which was staged on the stages of theaters, depended on the level of qualifications and number of the troupe, the availability of appropriate premises and props, the tasks that the occupational power set before the theater institutions.

At the same time, there were cases when performances by local bands were considered as undesirable. Indicative in this regard is the situation that developed in the summer of 1943 of the year in the rear area of ​​the Wehrmacht 6 Army. Thus, the proposal of the commander of the propaganda company No. 695 to speak in front of the troops at the front, provided that the program was thoroughly checked and divided according to the principle: “suitable only for Germans”, “suitable only for Russians”, “suitable for both”, the command of the 294 Infantry Division rejected resolution that it will lead "only to Russification, against which we will have to fight by all possible means."

The sources available today that characterize the degree of influence of Ukrainian culture and, in particular, theatrical art on Wehrmacht soldiers, are quite contradictory. This is due, obviously, not only differences in aesthetic perception, but also the degree of political engagement of sources and their creators. Indicative in this regard is the characteristic of theatrical productions in Kharkov. According to some of the fascists who attended theaters in Kharkov, “oddly enough, the Kharkov theater performances were not bad at all”, “Today the local ballet is dancing in the opera house crowded with soldiers. When the people of this country begin to sing and dance, it is like an awakening from a deep stupor. They completely succeed in reincarnation into something danceable, which Western dancers often cannot do. ” A rather positive assessment of the speeches of Kharkov actors was also contained in one of the reports of the propaganda department “U” for March 1942 of the year.

Of interest is the program of leisure activities on the occasion of the visit by the commanders of the occupying troops of Hungary on the Eastern Front, General Vitez Bakay, to the commander of the rear area of ​​Army Group B, General Erich Friderichi, in Kharkov in October 1942. So, Bakai was supposed to visit St. Nicholas Cathedral, as well as the opera Aida. And during the inspection visit of the commander of the rear area of ​​Army Group B during 6-15 in September 1942, it was planned to visit theaters in Stalino and Mariupol. In July, 1943, the Wehrmacht 6 Army Chief of Staff, describing the work of the local theater in Yuzovka, boastfully stated that "through the joint cooperation of the German and Ukrainian forces, the front-line opera, despite the war, is on a remarkable, promising rise."

Actors, musicians, support staff received wages and rations for their work.

The famous Ukrainian ballerina Elena Gorchakova, who danced in front of German soldiers and officers, then took a long time offended by the Soviet authorities, who did not give her the title of People's Artist of Ukraine. In order to justify her actions, Elena Petrovna said that, by working for invaders, she provided herself and her loved ones with food. The same excuse came up with for themselves the heads of theaters, individuals who influenced the personnel and repertoire policies in theaters. But they were convicted under the laws of the Soviet state.

Sources: Donetsk Donets Newspaper. 1942 year. 12 April.
Mariupol newspaper. 1942. 8 Zhovtnya.
Wuester V. In hell of Stalingrad. Wehrmacht bloody nightmare. M., 2010.
Podevilsk K. Fights on the Don and the Volga. Wehrmacht officer on the Eastern Front. M., 2010 year.
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Gorchakova E.P. Reflections in a long intermission. Donetsk, 1998 year.
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  1. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 1 July 2016 06: 39
    +15
    Entertained and appeased the invaders - traitors, definitely!
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 1 July 2016 07: 05
      +22
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Entertained and appeased

      What they did, they did. Probably wanted to eat. After the war, the French fought back on the women who entertained the invaders, cutting them off naked and throwing them out in feathers, having previously smeared them with tar. What brave men, however!
      1. Blondy
        Blondy 1 July 2016 08: 12
        +18
        It’s good to talk about betrayal on the couch with beer, but when there’s nothing to eat and the un fed children sit and all the work of the occupiers ... And all the fault is in that. that they couldn’t defend their own and left free the victorious enemy.
        1. Uncle Murzik
          Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 08: 46
          +8
          the first excuse for any betrayal! and the fact that the vast majority also have hungry children and were also starving, this is not taken into account
          1. Nicholas C.
            Nicholas C. 1 July 2016 11: 23
            +14
            Quote: Author Polina Efimova
            The famous Ukrainian ballerina Elena Gorchakova, dancing in front of German soldiers and officers, then took offense at the Soviet government for a long time, which did not give her the title of People's Artist of Ukraine.


            For non-brothers so. First you are the daughter of an employee of the NKVD and, later, Khrushchev’s guard Ada Rogovtsev, the secretary of the party committee and the delegate of the CPSU congress, you receive the title of People’s Artist of the USSR, your husband acts in films as Kovpak, and then you call for the killing of people and finance the genocide, publicly you cover with a dirty mat Kobzon for a concert and medicines to children of Donbass.

            Which is curious.
            On the territory of RONA there was a theater in the city of Dmitrov. The composition and repertoire of the troupe is well known. But for the level I can not say anything. I can assess the level of ideological work only indirectly, according to the materials that have been preserved for evaluation: despite the pompous reports about the formation of an all-Russian party, the "ideologists" of RONA could not even organize the publication of newspapers (district in Lokta and district in the cities of Dmitrov and Sevsk) such that they at least professionally correspond to the level of the district and district.

            Nevertheless. The time has come to run, and not only the policemen with their families, but the whole troupe of "actors" with their families set off on the road. Those who could not count on mercy fled - this must be understood. This means that they learned something about their prospects (when the smell of fried, the traitors actively probed the partisans for the possibility of "joining the ranks"). Moreover, the evacuation route was intricate, distant and extreme. First, on carts and on foot for more than 50 km. from Lokot to Sevsk (i.e. to the front, to the first line of the German defense), then the same amount, incl. through the Khinelsky forest to the station in Khutor Mikhailovsky. I thought for a long time why the path was this way (the Jesuit propaganda about all sorts of overtures to the Jews was confusing), until I found out why it remained the only possible one. Only a small part reached the landing on steam locomotives in Khutor.
      2. dkflbvbh
        dkflbvbh 1 July 2016 09: 16
        0
        "... a theater created mainly from residents of Gorlovka, Dzherzhinsk and Stavyansk." What is the city of Stavyansk? Why dont know...
        1. potroshenko
          potroshenko 1 July 2016 10: 11
          0
          In Ukraine, most of all there were theaters and amateur groups performing in front of the occupiers

          I didn’t find where the author of the article came from. It seems that just now this trend is in Ukraine.
    2. Kenneth
      Kenneth 1 July 2016 07: 30
      +1
      Well, personally, you certainly would have brought a grenade to the concert and killed everyone.
      1. Uncle Murzik
        Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 08: 20
        +2
        I don’t know who would bring what, but you would certainly stand in the forefront with bread and salt meeting the invaders Mr. Kenneth! wassat
  2. My address
    My address 1 July 2016 07: 06
    +31
    And again a joke in the subject.
    Dill and Belarusian swear:
    - You have nothing in Belarus, there is no good. Neither lard, nor gorilka, nor garny divchat. All in my nenko, in dill!
    - That's right. In the war and the police we could not find. Your, ukropskikh, trunks am sent.
    1. mroy
      mroy 1 July 2016 11: 07
      +18
      By the way, it’s true, unlike its neighbors, Belarusian nationalist organizations didn’t come close to Ukrainian in number.
  3. inkass_98
    inkass_98 1 July 2016 07: 17
    +24
    The question of cooperation with the Germans or work in the occupied territory is very slippery, the line between collaboration and simple survival is not so easy to find. Remember the scene from the immortals "Aty-bats, the soldiers were walking," when a soldier tells the platoon Suslin about how he lived in the occupied territory: "I plowed." On the one hand, there is a surprise that a healthy guy remained "under the German", neither ours nor the Germans mobilized him anywhere, and on the other hand, if a person has a family in his arms that did not manage to leave the territories rapidly occupied by the Germans, then something must be that is, to live to see liberation. You can understand this with your mind, but it's very hard to accept with your heart, because we were brought up in the mainstream of the fact that the entire population of the occupied territories fought the enemy as one person, and a handful of renegades collaborated and went to the police and punitive. But in reality, it was far from the case.
    Well it is, thinking about daily bread.
    Performing concerts with soldiers of the enemy army is definitely a betrayal. These nonhumans killed your relatives and neighbors, and will you act before them? I cannot exactly understand and accept this.
    1. dkflbvbh
      dkflbvbh 1 July 2016 09: 28
      +7
      In principle, I agree ... But you yourself wrote: "... you need to eat something to survive until liberation." Here the people, for the most part, survived as best they could ... Mother told me that when the valiant Red Army left Slavyansk, they could not remove the grain from the elevator or did not have time (it does not matter), so they couldn’t come up with anything smarter than they doused it with fuel and set it on fire. The people then collected these coals, sifted them throughout the winter of 41 and fed themselves ... She could not understand to death: they burned us? Well, they wouldn't take it out, they would give it to the people, if they hoped for a quick return, then the people themselves would give it back ... No, they would gobble it up, less of hunger would die, and the partisans would have something to eat ... And so she was 12 years old I had to go to the surrounding villages to barter something for food (I went alone, because the grandmother was pitch black, she was almost shot twice).
      So these concerts have saved someone’s life from starvation, and some information could be obtained ...
  4. Kenneth
    Kenneth 1 July 2016 07: 29
    -14%
    By the way, schools worked and tsekvi and a significant part of enterprises
    And there were no fewer Communists in local governments than under the Soviets. The Germans even left the collective farm structure
    And by the way, local power structures also worked
    1. Uncle Murzik
      Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 07: 54
      +5
      Give a link to your words "And the communists in the local councils were no less than when the authorities were in power" or is it again from night fantasies!
      1. Kenneth
        Kenneth 1 July 2016 08: 20
        -6
        That is, you readily agreed with the rest. But about the Communists, you have somewhat shifted stereotypes. There is such a book And Garina about Russian kodlaboratory. Read, delivers. Anyway, the topic of collaboration is not only surprising but very surprising.
        1. Uncle Murzik
          Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 08: 40
          +9
          Well, you still gozman, rezun, Ukrainian "historians" like Garin suggest reading! belay they have many interesting "facts" about ancient ukras laughing
          1. Kenneth
            Kenneth 1 July 2016 09: 01
            0
            By the way, I read both Rezun and Bunich and Sokolov and Beshanov. And Soviet historians and Western and modern and not. Because it is necessary to know the opinions of all parties in order to have the right to speak about a comprehensive analysis. Or can you limit yourself to filing a red star?
            1. Uncle Murzik
              Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 09: 06
              +8
              Rezun and Bunich also had to read, but the current wave of Ukrainian "historians" and "thinkers", thank you, sorry to waste time on nonsense!
              1. Kenneth
                Kenneth 1 July 2016 09: 26
                -1
                They read elderberry. Also nonsense?
                1. Uncle Murzik
                  Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 09: 49
                  +8
                  because Buzina was killed, Ukraine doesn’t need the truth! but what Buzina wrote about Russian kodlaboratory
                  1. Kenneth
                    Kenneth 1 July 2016 12: 36
                    0
                    He wrote historical books
                    Although quite controversial.
                    1. Lyubopyatov
                      Lyubopyatov 1 July 2016 19: 39
                      +3
                      For you, Kenneth, Oles Buzina's books are "quite controversial". And the verses of "Immortal Taras" are indisputable. Whatever Kenneth is doing ...
          2. Pitot
            Pitot 1 July 2016 09: 09
            +4
            Gozman is generally a notorious Russophobe. Lice on the body of Russia. Eats and eats in one place diving ....
            1. Kenneth
              Kenneth 1 July 2016 10: 03
              -2
              But Gozman did not read. Not once. But you interested me.
        2. Uncle Murzik
          Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 09: 14
          +5
          yes no mister Kenneth I'm used to the fact that people are responsible for their words, just when you wrote "And there were no less communists in local councils than under the government" I would like to see the numbers, but you moved out as always! so let me call you to put it mildly dreamer
          1. Kenneth
            Kenneth 1 July 2016 09: 32
            -4
            And this is from the TV show. It was about the Pskov region. It’s difficult to give a link to TV, you’ll go out to shit, so I gave it to a book. You can learn the same facts from many articles on the topic of Russian collaborationism and this is not at all funny
            At first, the communists merely registered and lived on. And they worked in the same structures as before the war. As well as ordinary members of the Nazi party after the war. But when the partisan movement began and the underground changed everything.
            1. Uncle Murzik
              Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 09: 44
              +2
              "Volyn massacre is a question artificially inspired by Russian intelligence" Academician Yukhnovsky! Do you offer me books of such idiots to read? Thank you books of dreamers I am not interested in! I would like to see figures, not "verbal diarrhea" or at least excerpts from these books bring
              1. Kenneth
                Kenneth 1 July 2016 10: 00
                -1
                I suggest looking at the availability of factual material. If interesting documents are presented in his book, then excellent. And for the conclusions, I have my own head and I read more than one book on the problem to form my opinion from different sources.
          2. Beefeater
            Beefeater 1 July 2016 10: 49
            -6
            Quote: Uncle Murzik
            yes no mister Kenneth I'm used to the fact that people are responsible for their words, just when you wrote "And there were no less communists in local councils than under the government" I would like to see the numbers, but you moved out as always! so let me call you to put it mildly dreamer

            What a long way to go.
            The leadership of the army of Vlasov. Vlasov is a communist, Zhilenkov is a communist, secretary of the district committee, Zykov is a communist and a Jew, there were a lot of officers from the Red Army. All communists and Komsomol members.
            1. Uncle Murzik
              Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 11: 07
              +5
              in general, mister Kenneth wrote "And there were no fewer communists in the local councils than under the owls of power," I suggested that he write numbers, he answered with "verbal diarrhea"! there were traitors and defectors, no one disputes this, but the percentage of communists was insignificant , these are the fantasies of gentlemen liberals!
            2. V.ic
              V.ic 1 July 2016 14: 07
              +4
              Quote: Beefeater
              All communists and Komsomol members.

              Is it really Adolf Aloizovich himself?
          3. Beefeater
            Beefeater 1 July 2016 10: 55
            -4
            Quote: Uncle Murzik
            yes no mister Kenneth I'm used to the fact that people are responsible for their words, just when you wrote "And there were no less communists in local councils than under the government" I would like to see the numbers, but you moved out as always! so let me call you to put it mildly dreamer

            What a long way to go.
            The leadership of the army of Vlasov. Vlasov is a communist, Zhilenkov is a communist, secretary of the district committee, Zykov is a communist and a Jew, there were a lot of officers from the Red Army. All communists and Komsomol members.
          4. Beefeater
            Beefeater 1 July 2016 10: 55
            -6
            Quote: Uncle Murzik
            yes no mister Kenneth I'm used to the fact that people are responsible for their words, just when you wrote "And there were no less communists in local councils than under the government" I would like to see the numbers, but you moved out as always! so let me call you to put it mildly dreamer

            What a long way to go.
            The leadership of the army of Vlasov. Vlasov is a communist, Zhilenkov is a communist, secretary of the district committee, Zykov is a communist and a Jew, there were a lot of officers from the Red Army. All communists and Komsomol members.
            1. Uncle Murzik
              Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 11: 53
              +3
              in general, mister Kenneth wrote "And there were no fewer communists in the local councils than under the owls of power," I offered him to write numbers, he replied with "verbal diarrhea"! there were traitors and defectors among the communists, no one disputes this, but it was not so much! having a party card does not mean that you are a communist soldier
              1. Kenneth
                Kenneth 1 July 2016 12: 34
                -1
                Gorgeous. Good. There were no communists in the government. There were only renegades with party cards.
                1. Uncle Murzik
                  Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 12: 47
                  +3
                  as always, a reasoned answer, well, what can you expect from you Mr. Dreamer laughing
                  1. Kenneth
                    Kenneth 1 July 2016 13: 08
                    -3
                    You do not agree with this wording. Formulate yourself, you are tired of me, Mr. Dunno.
                2. V.ic
                  V.ic 1 July 2016 14: 09
                  +3
                  Quote: Kenneth
                  There were no communists in the government. There were only renegades with party cards.

                  Are you talking about Volkogonov, Shevarnadze, Yakovlev, Gorbachev and Yeltsin?
                  1. Kenneth
                    Kenneth 1 July 2016 16: 46
                    0
                    Here about these one hundred percent.
    2. dkflbvbh
      dkflbvbh 1 July 2016 09: 37
      +12
      Again my mother told me ... When the Germans entered (in the same Slavyansk), the first thing they did was put up leaflets at the commandant's office that all Komsomol members and communists should come to the commandant’s office and register. And our people flopped and began to become. The Germans would have stopped here ... And just to keep them under control, but a week later arrests and executions began ... Then the people saw all the charm of the "new order" and were indignant ... There were underground workers, partisans ... But don't touch fascists people, hto knows how everything turned out ...

      Yes, I forgot to add ... As a child, I threw stones at the back of a policeman, personally ... He lived with us alone after his imprisonment ... His people did not really favor ...
      1. Kenneth
        Kenneth 1 July 2016 09: 57
        -2
        By the way, it happened quite often. Everything depended on the local authorities. I had to communicate with people who were under occupation. Opinions are very different. By the way, my grandfather (fled to the city from dispossessing) fought the whole war, but even he said that if the Germans were softer with the people it is not known how everything would turn out. And the fact that people abandoned by their government somehow arranged to work to feed their families is not strange. If they did not betray anyone. Moreover, these people became the basis for the underground and still many of them fought after their liberation.
        1. Uncle Murzik
          Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 10: 24
          +10
          again liberal delirium, about the "good fascists"! "This is a war of ideologies and a struggle of races. On one side there is National Socialism: an ideology based on the values ​​of our Germanic, Nordic blood. There is a world as we want it to be: beautiful, orderly, socially fair, a world that may still suffer from some shortcomings, but on the whole a happy, beautiful world filled with culture, which is exactly what Germany is. On the other side there is a people of 180 million, a mixture of races and peoples whose the names are unpronounceable and whose physical essence is such that the only thing that can be done with them is to shoot them without any pity or mercy "said Heinrich Himmler! soon liberals such as Kenneth will write that there were no death camps, there were camps for" refugees "! and how such the Russian land wears!
          1. dkflbvbh
            dkflbvbh 1 July 2016 10: 41
            +6
            Uncle Murzik (1) RU Today, 10:24 ↑ New
            again liberal delirium, about the "good fascists"! "This is a war of ideologies and a struggle of races. On one side there is National Socialism: an ideology based on the values ​​of our Germanic, Nordic blood. There is a world as we want it to be: beautiful, orderly, socially fair, a world that may still suffer from some shortcomings, but on the whole a happy, beautiful world filled with culture, which is exactly what Germany is. On the other side there is a people of 180 million, a mixture of races and peoples whose the names are unpronounceable and whose physical essence is such that the only thing that can be done with them is to shoot them without any pity or mercy, "said Heinrich Himmler!


            I don’t need to campaign for Soviet power ... But now the market is not in the right place where you are hiding with your trough ... It's about the survival of the people left in their native huts, because some did not have time, others had no where to go, etc. And the government didn’t really care about these people (not even the government, but the government) ... After the liberation, how much did they plant? And the people just wanted to survive and help the country survive (without taking into account any offended and freaks in life, which at all times and all peoples have enough).
            So I believe that in order to survive any means are good ... And there is no need to breed demagoguery about the high title of "Soviet man" ...
            1. Uncle Murzik
              Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 11: 13
              +5
              Yes, the demagogy of the justification of betrayal is carried out by you, to be of any value at the trough! belay they planted yes apparently badly how much shit surfaced in Ukraine and the Baltic states, they marched marching! and the majority fought starving but won the war! : soldierа that everyone who worked in the occupation was bullshit, they planted accomplices, traitors! Ballerina Gorchakova who danced in the occupation was not who did not plant
              1. dkflbvbh
                dkflbvbh 1 July 2016 12: 24
                0
                Uncle Murzik (1) RU Today, 11:13 ↑ New
                Yes, the demagogy of the justification of betrayal is carried out by you, to be of any value at the trough! belay planted yes apparently badly how much shit surfaced in Ukraine and the Baltic states, marches march! and most fought starving but won the war! : soldierа that everyone who worked in the occupation was bullshit, they planted accomplices, traitors! Ballerina Gorchakova who danced in the occupation was not who did not plant

                And you think planting, accusations of Trotskyism, collectivization and dispossession of kulaks added supporters of the Soviet regime (grandfather was dispossessed in 37, which is why he and his two sons fled to the Urals from the Kuban (after a famine, during which my grandmother died) from planting. And there was only a cow and two horses ... But his father and his middle brother (the eldest died in civil war for the Reds, but this was not an indicator for dispossession) fought against the Nazis - for the Motherland, and not for some kind of Soviet power (albeit rose into battle shouting “For Stalin.” So he was lucky, the wounded man survived, but his brother died)? This is so important and floats in days of upheaval, the whole history shows what historical period you don't look at (including modern time). So maybe even now to think about the mistakes and not repeat them? And not to shake the air with dogmas ... Huh? Judging by the actions of today's clique, no one thinks about it ... So how long will they experiment with the people? Maybe that's enough? we are reaping the benefits x pre-war and post-war landings, or do you think the memory of the people is easy to erase? People will remember for a long time that their father, mother, grandfather, grandmother, aunt, uncle were imprisoned (shot) for some kind of xyynu (like spikelets). Do you think the people forgets grievances towards themselves or their relatives ... No, and will remember for a long time. And you won't do anything with your exhaust ...
                Isn’t it time to take all the best from history and not step on the same rake ...
                1. Uncle Murzik
                  Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 13: 03
                  +7
                  you think you are the only one, my grandfather was also exiled to the vasyugan! so now I have to hold a stone in my bosom all my life! if that article is not about that at all! shootings for spikelets tell this liberal nonsense to someone else! and when people went on the attack "for the Motherland" and "for Stalin" they shouted
                  1. Kenneth
                    Kenneth 1 July 2016 15: 17
                    -5
                    People screamed when they went on the attack.
                2. Kenneth
                  Kenneth 1 July 2016 13: 06
                  -8
                  Trying in vain. It will not reach him. There, instead of the brain, a red monolith.
                  1. dkflbvbh
                    dkflbvbh 1 July 2016 13: 42
                    -7
                    Kenneth RU Today, 13:06 PM ↑ New
                    Trying in vain. It will not reach him. There, instead of the brain, a red monolith.



                    Yes, I don’t suffer from pluralism ... But because of these, the communist idea was ruined ...
                3. Uncle Murzik
                  Uncle Murzik 2 July 2016 17: 56
                  0
                  Yes, I remember one character from the book "Shadows disappear at midnight" Ustin Morozov (Zhukov) who undermined Soviet power all his conscious life, so many apparently were those whom the toad crushed!
          2. Kenneth
            Kenneth 1 July 2016 12: 33
            -5
            Go with your ideology. 80 million left under the Germans for 2 years. They somehow had to survive.
            1. Uncle Murzik
              Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 12: 54
              +4
              better tell the dreamer about the good "fascists", and no ideology! belay
              1. Kenneth
                Kenneth 1 July 2016 13: 03
                -4
                Come up with good fascists yourself if this topic interests you. Or go read the red star for 76
                1. Uncle Murzik
                  Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 13: 14
                  +4
                  and did not you write Mr. Dreamer in the post above, "but even he said that if the Germans were softer with the people, then it is not known how everything would turn out" belay
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                    1. Uncle Murzik
                      Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 15: 27
                      +2
                      Yes, it’s the one who pours mud at the soldiers of victory, our grandfathers and grandmothers! Your post is lower, Mr. Liberator!
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                      2. Uncle Murzik
                        Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 17: 31
                        +3
                        and what truth do you write, Mr. Fantazer, you did not give more than one normal reference! except for verbal diarrhea, and Western clichés, I did not see anything from you! as one character said, "No one has the right to manipulate the memory of Red Army soldiers, using the fact that most of them can no longer give for such words in the face "
      2. dkflbvbh
        dkflbvbh 1 July 2016 10: 32
        +2
        Yes, I had half of my relatives in the occupation (some were young, others were women, and others were blockaded in Leningrad), so I know not by hearsay about the atrocities of the so-called. civilized nation, but there were also normal Germans (most of the elderly) who helped with food and so ... Mother said: they are leading the prisoners ... Well, who can do anything, a piece of bread, a beetle, an apple (they themselves did not have anything to eat) so one guard will give to pass the food, and then he will give a slap on the head and shout "vek", and the other, without saying anything, turn from the machine gun ... And when they were already swollen from hunger, the cousin's dog survived, they hid it (when the Germans entered, the first thing they shot the dogs and cut down the trees in the streets ... So the glades along the railway dorgs were left with us after that war) and so she and grandmother were saved from death, ate persuaded to eat

        In general, the thought often visits me if such a war swept through us at the present time ... Who would celebrate the victory?
  5. wadim13
    wadim13 1 July 2016 11: 27
    +12
    The Communists, all who remained, on the first day of the occupation, were expelled from us to the square and shot. Several remaining unaccounted for, who tried to organize the underground, were also caught in a couple of months. True, some who managed to shoot themselves did not want to integrate. True, their policemen were worse than the Germans. While my grandfather, an officer and a communist, was at the front, one pro-European policeman faced his grandmother with a baby. The German commandant saw this, because he raised his hand to his mother and child, he beat this poor fellow so hard that he did not hold out for a long time. He escaped, so to speak, the Stalinist camps. And the commandant in 1943, when ours approached, could not leave his post - he shot himself.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 1 July 2016 07: 37
    +7
    An interesting fact, Blumenthal-Tamarin headed the Russian Drama Theater in Kiev. One of the most famous of his performances was the play "Front" by A. Korneichuk, converted into an evil satire on the Red Army, which was staged under the title "This is how they fight". He played the main role in it - General Gorlov, renamed Gorlopanov. Here is an excerpt from the newspaper "For the Motherland", which was published in occupied Kiev on 24.06.1943, A new drama theater was recently opened in Kiev. The task of this theater is to show on the stage the works of Ukrainian playwrights ... In addition, it is planned to stage works of the classics. The director of the theater is the famous philologist S. Zavadovich, and the artistic director is N. Timki. In addition, the directors invited I. Nenyuk, a student of Nikolai Sadovsky, A. Radmirov-Timsky and P. Khordichuk. Among the staff of the artists are such famous names as G. Minko, O. Vasilyeva, T. Sadovskaya, N. Tsimbal, D. Yakubovskaya and others. Talented young forces from the Conservatory have also been admitted. 30 new productions of Ukrainian and European dramatic works are expected. Preparations for the play "Nazar Stodolya" by Taras Shevchenko and "1939" by S. Kokot, a young Kiev playwright and one of the dramas by Knut Hamsun, have been completed.
    Thanks, Polina..good article ..
  • atos_kin
    atos_kin 1 July 2016 07: 50
    +7
    The Nazis' Katyusha entertained the best.
  • Kenneth
    Kenneth 1 July 2016 08: 25
    -9
    By the way, on the topic of collaborationism. Has anyone heard about the TT epidemic that arose in our troops when they went west and began to liberate the occupied territories.
    1. Uncle Murzik
      Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 08: 44
      +5
      again Ukrainian "historians" told! laughing
      1. Kenneth
        Kenneth 1 July 2016 09: 12
        -5
        From any text, you can extract links to documents, documents themselves. Of course, the author is megatendentious, but when he gives extracts from German documents, it is interesting if you are interested in history. By the way, like Boris Sokolov, who wrote about the occupation. Too much to learn a lot of interesting things. You can limit yourself to amphilic.
    2. Beefeater
      Beefeater 1 July 2016 09: 49
      -4
      Quote: Kenneth
      By the way, on the topic of collaborationism. Has anyone heard about the TT epidemic that arose in our troops when they went west and began to liberate the occupied territories.

      Tell me.)))
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        1. Uncle Murzik
          Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 13: 32
          +3
          Mr. Dreamer can you link? Or again science fiction? belay laughing
          1. Kenneth
            Kenneth 1 July 2016 14: 09
            -7
            Allocate a little space in your brain for the ability to use Google, type the simplest query on the topic and enjoy. There are more than a lot of links. It’s disgusting to communicate with you. You know little and do not want to know more.
            1. Uncle Murzik
              Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 15: 04
              +3
              that again the sources are Ukrainian "historians!" belay experts like you laughingdon’t give out your friends correctly!
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 1 July 2016 08: 33
    +5
    The police did not mobilize. And if there is a category of people who wants to live well under any circumstances and at any cost, then the reward is deserved.
    Quote: Blondy
    It’s good to talk about betrayal on the couch with beer, but when there’s nothing to eat and the un fed children sit and all the work of the occupiers ... And all the fault is in that. that they couldn’t defend their own and left free the victorious enemy.
  • Beefeater
    Beefeater 1 July 2016 09: 48
    +8
    The author would like to note that Olga Chekhova, a friend of Hitler and the state actress of the Reich, depicted in the photo, was a staff member of the USSR intelligence. I am ashamed not to know such things.
    1. Uncle Murzik
      Uncle Murzik 1 July 2016 09: 59
      +8
      I read about it too! "During the storming of Berlin, Olga and her daughter lived in the town of Groß-Glienicke, where she had a luxurious villa. There she was arrested on April 27, 1945 by officers of the Smersh military counterintelligence service of the 1st Belorussian Front. During interrogation Olga named her agent pseudonym Merlin, but the Smershevites showed complete ignorance and asked for Moscow. Immediately followed by the order of the head of the Main Directorate Smersh Abakumov himself to deliver Olga by plane to Moscow. There she was settled in a safe apartment, where Olga lived as an honorary prisoner for about two months, although and in extremely comfortable conditions, but nevertheless - locked up. "Only there is no official confirmation, unfortunately!" For all official inquiries, as well as for letters from relatives, the domestic intelligence issues a decisive "no." There is no information that Olga Chekhova was an agent of the NKVD, not found. Not a single documentary evidence. Period. "
      1. Beefeater
        Beefeater 1 July 2016 16: 02
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        Quote: Uncle Murzik
        No information has been found that Olga Chekhova was an NKVD agent. Not a single documentary evidence. Dot."

        Intelligence very rarely reveals the names of its FAILED employees and almost never talks about the operations in which they participated. This is clear. People there have their own lives, relatives, friends, do not put them in a difficult position. Intelligence historians admit that Chekhov was a scout. The name of another actress Marika Reck is called very carefully, the one that Stirlitz watched in the cinema, she often went to Sweden, was connected. But of course no one will let archives
        1. Kenneth
          Kenneth 1 July 2016 16: 28
          +1
          Generally a unique lady was. She was not just released but also taken by plane, allowed to live in Berlin, including western. I can’t recall other cases of such a loyal attitude.
          1. Beefeater
            Beefeater 1 July 2016 22: 34
            +1
            Quote: Kenneth
            Generally a unique lady was. She was not just released but also taken by plane, allowed to live in Berlin, including western. I can’t recall other cases of such a loyal attitude.

            After the war, Chekhov lived all her life in Austria. She had a successful perfume company.
  • RoTTor
    RoTTor 1 July 2016 11: 46
    0
    Unnecessary, to put it mildly, infa.
    Or is it for ukro-fascists as a guide?
  • Just a man
    Just a man 1 July 2016 16: 57
    +6
    And why be surprised - look on the Internet as a Ukrainian general with obsequiousness on his knees presents a checker to the US ambassador, or how lads dance famously in front of the US military in our time. A people with a centuries-old mentality of the Mazepov region has not changed even now.
  • Hope1960
    Hope1960 1 July 2016 19: 30
    +3
    Ukraine, as the eternal whore of history, is the task not to survive and avenge the scolded honor, but how to sell more expensively to those who are richer. In Belarus, everything is somewhat different - almost the same location on the map (between Russia and the West), but honor is respected.
  • Aviator_
    Aviator_ 1 July 2016 20: 20
    +2
    Good article. Especially about the accomplices of the Nazis in the cultural sphere. In Feodosia, the widow of the writer Alexander Grin worked in a fascist newspaper, fled with the Germans (why? - probably there was a reason), was caught only near Odessa. Served as an innocent victim of political repression.
  • Pushkar
    Pushkar 1 July 2016 22: 50
    +2
    In fact, the Germans started the war with one goal - the destruction of Russia (USSR) and the peoples of Russia (USSR). They needed space and resources. More - nothing. Therefore, the reasoning about "good" or "bad" Germans is akin to the reasoning of livestock about the "good or evil" owner. Whether he scratches behind the ear or kicks, he will still be stabbed by Christmas. And somehow serving this "master" is definitely a crime for which there is no excuse. Read "Sotnikov" Bykov.