Belarus and Belarusians. Travel notes

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As promised in May, we started the new cycle “Unknown War” in Brest, where we spent three days, from 20 to 22 in June. A large amount of material was filmed, and while the video is being processed, I decided to start publishing something like travel notes. I think it will be significant, especially since we were in Belarus for the first time, and many of the readers were not at all. A visit to this republic caused mixed impressions. But mostly positive.

Before traveling, I consulted with a resident of Brest, who works in my city. But, since it was Belarusian, some things, quite normal for him, later played a cruel joke on us. But - in order.

1. Boundary

In the so-called border area, we followed the advice given to us by a local agent: "Walk in on your full side." This is in terms of fuel. The problem was the same, especially in relation to gas. They coped, and crossed the border with a full tank and balloon. Which subsequently came in handy.

We did not find the border itself. More precisely, its Belarusian part. There was a border post on our side, where the border guards looked at us with curiosity and reminded us of the presence of passports. And they won't let me back in. At this formalities were completed, and we wished a pleasant journey. When we asked, and where is the border, the sergeant gave up and uncertainly said: "There ... in a kilometer."

Not a kilometer or three away, we did not find anything similar. The fact that we are already “not here” became clear from roadside kiosks with “Insurance in Russia” signs. Hello Belarus!

The surrounding landscape has not changed, except that the road surface has become better. And we rushed in the direction of Krichev, where we expected to get hold of local currency.

So it turned out that at home we did not purchase "those" rubles. The upcoming denomination in Belarus somehow affected the presence of belrubley in our banks. Did not have. And taking into account that they didn’t use them in particular (far away), we decided that it’s not a problem, we’ll take it on the spot.

Dream, dream ...

2. Belarusian surprises

In Krichev, to our surprise, we found out that the Belrubls do not shine for us. For sunday. And all exchangers to a single closed. Well, it does not matter, on the way more civil Mogilyov. Right now!

In Mogilyov was all in the same pore. After talking with the guards in one of the found banks, we realized that we would be destitute until Monday. That is why they corrected the route and immediately rushed to Brest. Well, not to call in Minsk for the sake of such trifles? Moreover, we clearly had enough flammable food, snacks took place in the trunk, and it wasn’t the fact that something was different in Minsk. And in the case of arrival in Minsk and failure would already be strained. Well, we decided not to risk it.

Service on plastic cards on the roads is, frankly, not a fountain. Not all terminals accept our cards and not all banks. The most advanced in this regard is our “Lukoil”, but it is not often encountered. Belarusneft was impressed by the network where something constantly breaks down in terms of terminals. Well, or simply do not want to mess with the Russian cards. Hard to say.

Exceptions, as they say local, are terminals at the traffic police. These crack all the cards and with pleasure.

Well, and one more small minus. Gas stations are located somehow chaotically. There may be three one after another, and then a fair amount of the way there will be no refills at all.

In any case, for everyone who decides to take a ride in Belarus by car, a couple of tips. Do not be lazy to do two things: to pour under the traffic jam on your side, for it is considerably cheaper and to stock up on a thousand or other Russian rubles in Belarusian equivalent. Yes, our insurance is cheaper. 840 rubles. We have never checked it, but if you fly it will be sad. Fines in Belarus are quite European and are calculated in euros.

In general, it is better not to fly fines. Not every budget will survive. We behaved decently (with one exception), so it cost. But exceed - God forbid. Moreover, even in the smallest village there can be a camera.

And one more joke. Toll roads. They are. But we, until we were explained, did not understand how to pay for them. We are not familiar with terminals. Just a sign: "Toll road". And that's all. Nowhere is there any explanation on this subject, think as far as advancement is concerned. We did not realize it, because we reached Brest and slightly frightened our meeting with this question.

Thank God, Russian cars of category "B" drive on toll roads for free. Such a brotherly bonus. And the rest are required to pay. And it should be done independently, at the gas station, where there is a corresponding terminal. To find and pay is the personal responsibility of everyone. I did not find / did not pay - welcome to the warm embrace of the State Automobile Inspectorate.

Visitors from Ukraine, for example, are required to pay. And there are whole parking lots of confiscated cars, whose owners chose to leave them rather than buy them. This is the reality with respect to the neighbors.

When we expressed surprise that there was no information at all on this topic, we were told that fines are a good part of the country's budget. If at each corner to inform, from whom they (fines) to take? Such is the aspect.

About gas as fuel for cars. I strongly advise you to forget about him there. What is poured on Belarusian gas stations can only be considered gas with a great stretch. Cheating godlessly. The concept of "pour to full" they do not. How much you ask - so much and pour. The first time I asked for 50. Filled 50. On the "Lukoil". Although he does not trade gas in our country. And obviously still could be, although I have a cylinder 52 liters. In Russia, 48 no longer climbed the laws of physics. Passed on these 50 liters as much as 325 km. Although normal for my car 430-450 km on the highway. Okay.

I experimented a second time. On Belarusneft. With a hand that did not tremble, the tanker “poured” exactly the 60 liters declared by me. On the frankly mocking question, how is it in a cylinder on 52 liters (not quite empty, by the way) entered 60, he quite calmly replied: "Did you ask for 60? Here you have 60 ..." Enough of these 60 liters per 352 km.

And gasoline they have nothing. Only more expensive. But about the gas in the Republic of Belarus for the rest of my life, I forgot from the word completely. Itself is more expensive. Because the fact that I was poured out of the cylinder upon arrival, somehow my gasman could not classify. It smelled like gas, but did not burn and did not evaporate. Substance.

Here is a sovetik. Suddenly useful.

3. Roads and around them

In general, as roads are, Belarus is unequivocally “tseevropa”. Smooth, smooth, clean. Perfect. Both paid and free. About the same. At least, from the border to Brest. That is, having traveled all over the country from east to west, we did not see the usual holes and potholes anywhere.



And cleanliness.

Cleanliness and order in Belarus are simply killed. And in cities, both large and small, and on the roads. He made an experiment: got out of the car and plunged into the forest belt along the road. The nearest town was still 50 kilometers. Order. No bottles, and cans, nothing. Virgin forest.

In the cities about the same. In general, it is not clear whether they are conscientiously cleaned or not littered. Apparently, the second. Because in Mogilev and Brest, they specifically went away from the central streets, just to check. The result is the same.

And this is no longer Europe, where it is slightly off to the side and you can easily and naturally dig it for a gaddler. What's in Prague, in Hamburg. And indeed in almost any European city.

On the roads a lot of undercamping. And they look great too. Yes, this is not our М4, where from time to time there are asphalted pockets with overflowing garbage containers and toilets that have not been cleaned since the day they were created.

In Belarus, it looks different. Usually in such a pocket there is a cafe or shop, benches, benches, and even gazebos with a roof. Plus, the cafe staff, apparently, and keeps the site clean. An indispensable attribute is a map indicating the next such place. On toll roads.



We stopped twice for lunch on the "wild" highway between Mogilyov and Krichev. Playground on the lake, in the forest. Pergolas, pieces of 5 garbage containers, tables. In short, everything you need for a field lunch. If there is an artesian spring with water, there will always be a corresponding sign about it.



Generally, the signs on the roads divide. Warn about everything that is possible. The most common: "Hurray!", That is, "Warning!" White triangle with a red border and a black dot in the middle. And under it are the plates of the reason "uvagi" It comes to 5. Not photographed, but saw. It would be easier to hang the sign "local apocalypse". Or "everything is bad."

But when you stop at a site where there are no signs (they warn about it in advance), it becomes even uncomfortable.

The fact that around the roads. Going to Belarus for the first time, inevitably set themselves up to see endless fields of kartokhi around the tracks. Released a complete bummer. The fields were, and yes, extensive and all that. But for some reason, they were planted quite often with cereals. Even strange somehow.



And only in one single place, kilometers in 50 from Minsk, we finally saw the required. Breathed out, for the potato was available, and already quietly drove on.

The cows, or rather their number, also inspired calm. There were plenty of cows. Herds of 100-200 heads flashed constantly. For the sake of justice, on the way back through the Bryansk and Oryol regions in the afternoon we did not see cows at all. And in Belarus - please.



By the way, partisans very often leave the forest. Despite the fence. And then trade the gifts of the forest. Berries and everything else. Sometimes the spontaneous bazaars on the side of the road look very ... Man by 30-40.



A Belarusian at the wheel is a man who is absolutely law-abiding (and otherwise with such fines and total surveillance) and cultural. Over the 5 days that we rolled out on roads and cities, we had the whole THREE cases that required an urgent response. THREE. And on the frank rudeness dragged only one. Two - so ... we have such a ten for the day you can catch.

Passing pedestrians is generally a nightmare. Pedestrians do not cross the road, they move. Especially where just a transition, without a traffic light. Absolutely not looking around. Overdo it, to be honest. And the drivers are waiting.

We have once distinguished ourselves, though not entirely due to our fault. Blunted navigator threw us into the oncoming lane of the road. There really is at first glance not quite clear how to move. And we were so famously on the fourth lane, designed to turn at a crossroads. Oops, not on purpose! But having flown, they realized, and rose.

Green for that street caught fire, but not a single car started off on either side. The people calmly assessed the situation, and waited, what these clowns would still do. And there were options. We could just turn around through all the lanes, we could drive 150 meters somewhere up to the right turn, we could go back.

From the window of the nearest car: "Guys, everything is fine, but you are quickly determining where to go on ..."

We passed back, turned to our side, and only then, apparently, sighing with relief, did everyone leave. Impressed.

In general, it was easy to dissect at Estima in Brest. Since the "right-handed" in the Republic of Belarus is prohibited, our narrow-eyed vehicle, and even with the Russian numbers are not the most famous region, attracted attention. Not that they shied away, but tried to keep their distance. Just in case.

4. About residents

Since we spent most of the time in Brest, we also made up our opinion on the inhabitants of this city.

Brest is considerably smaller than our city, four times that way. Licked, combed and in general, such a doll.

How can you judge the welfare of residents? Probably by car.

Brest surprised. We did not expect to see so many cars that have long and firmly settled in our category "auto junk". "Golfs" - "twos" - herds. "Trade winds" 2 and 3, "Fords" "Sierras" and "Escorts", "Audi" - "herring" ... In general, hello, nineties.

Russian car industry is not visible. Once we saw "Vesta" on the track, sometimes the "sixes" still flash. Gaytsy ride on the "dozens", but, apparently, Ukrainian, "Bogdanah". Everything. The rest is Europe, the Germans and the French of the nineties. Something modern is also present, but in small amounts.

In general, probably, like us. Only ours were transferred to Koreans and VAZs, and now there is such a reserve. But, it should be noted that in appearance it is not called auto junk. Everything is decent looking, not crumpled, not rotten ... City Museum.

What else can be said about the Belarusians, specifically about the inhabitants of Brest. Peculiar. A sort of nautilus in the sinks. Outward some claws and a mustache. It is quite difficult to start a conversation, much to try. And the first time does not leave the feeling that you either somehow evaluate, or check. Moreover, we did not derive any regularity.

Suddenly, a Belarussian person clicks something in the head, some gears are hooked, and next to you is a sort of shirt-guy, ready to go with you to the other end of the world.

Or maybe not click. And then it is better to look for another interlocutor or guide.

We also understood, almost immediately, that we can talk with Belarusians on any topic other than politics. “Let's not talk about politics” is a very common phrase. About any policy. Internal, external, neighbor. And, if you want to continue communication - it is better to remove this topic. And in the future do not raise. And everything will be wonderful, especially since a real Belarusian will always find something to talk about and tell.

It is also better not to ask about certain internal aspects, especially concerning the Lukashenko line. This is a pretty painful topic for any local. It cannot be said that everyone crowds approve of what the father is doing, but to discuss it is not particularly eager. "This is how we live ... This is Belarus ...".

We concluded for ourselves that life in a small police state is rather complicated and problematic for the people. In some aspects.

But what not to take away from the Belarusians is patriotism and love for their country.



We often heard secret stories about how far from perfect everything is in arrangement, about problems. There was no suggestion about ways to solve problems, but when I said that if everything is like this, why not go to Russia, where there are really no such problems, then they looked at me rather strangely. The option of changing citizenship was not considered by all my interlocutors.

Not the “younger brother's syndrome”, but any Belarusian will try by all means to show that they have at least as good. Yes, they don’t like much in their arrangement, but somehow it’s not customary to complain about it or not ... There’s an opposition for this, which they don’t particularly hold for people either. In principle, as with us.

But in general, the people are very friendly and friendly. To their own. We had a case before the parade of participants, 21 June, we were just attacked by two residents of Grodno, Victor and Yura. They were a little bit of a podshofé For a rather long time they had spoken maliciously at our expense, until it became clear to their mind-clouded minds that we, despite our form, were Russians. For some reason they could not ask immediately, but they decided that we were either from Kazakhstan or from Israel. There were reenactors and from these countries too.

As soon as it became clear, and even aggravated by the fact that for the first time in Belarus, as an apology and in order to show us the true soul of Grodno, a glass bottle of liters on 10 with sparkling (I'm not lying!) Liquid was pulled from the depths of Transporter. . At the bottom there was another liter and a half.

- Here ... Right now, we will show you what the soul of Grodno is ... Do not poison, you know ...

We, frankly, shuddered from the perspective. We had to go to the center, then a solemn event at one in the morning, and at 4-30 we had to be on the site for reconstruction. Pancake...

In my opinion, the scent of an experienced moonshiner with experience of about 15 years, the fluid was at least 60 degrees. And there was fat. Where do without him?

Mentally crossed himself and - broads! Inside the body exploded and sparkled!

Now we know what the "soul of Grodno" is ...

- Oh, rosy! Now you will ride the whole evening like a wound up! - commented Yura. And he was right. At this high-octane refueling station, we not only went through the whole march, but on the way back along with the new acquaintance Alexander, our reader and historian, we also went around the entire old center of Brest.

- You, if anything, on the way back, come, - invited us. To eat. But we decided not to risk it.

In general, if you leave behind the scenes what I said and what I chose to keep silent about, then the trip gave only positive impressions. An interesting country, beautiful people. Well, we came across these.

And one moment. Belarus, unlike our native lands, is a sort of Slavic reserve. Migrant workers have not seen at all. Everything we saw was done by local hands. Unusually, but damn it, it looks nice.

We relived and discussed our impressions all the way back. And the little bit of negativity that we had, finally sank in that amount of warmth, hospitality, attentiveness that fell upon us from those who met us, and those with whom we met during our throwings.

I don’t know how Egypt, Turkey and other countries are there, where they decided to drag their bodies to rest, but we in Belarus seized such a charge of everything sunny, what a resort there ... Yes, there is no sea. But there is much more. Especially for those interested history in general, just loves beautiful places. And so there them ...

We were already leaving, saying goodbye to our good genius Dmitry, who ditched a lot of his time against us when another invitation came. On the "Stalin Line". But we were forced to refuse, because everything was finished: strength, money, film, flash drives. And, as we were told, how we walk - we need to spend the whole day.

We decided that another time. And we liked this idea initially. It is always pleasant to go back to where it is comfortable and warm to the soul.

So ... Goodbye, Belarus!

Postscript: as you already understood, we traveled to such a distance for a reason. There are many interesting materials ahead.
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  1. +26
    27 June 2016 06: 26
    "Let's not talk about politics" is a very common phrase. Any policy. Internal, external, neighborly.
    I agree. They live and glory to God, not like in Central Asia.
    1. +14
      27 June 2016 10: 46
      Let's not talk about politics "Something I don't remember, let's talk about politics. How many opposition sites living on the grandees of the West have all sorts of charters, here bye, headed by Zisser, a native of Lvov, it's time for Onliners to cover up these parasites, otherwise just not to work
      1. +8
        27 June 2016 11: 50
        Cover up when they work, these zissers, all opp are visible in full view.
        1. -1
          27 June 2016 17: 52
          belаRussia and BelоRuss


          What word is the mistake?
          1. +1
            27 June 2016 23: 34
            in no way
            Belarus and Belarus equivalent words
            like their derivatives
            1. -1
              28 June 2016 07: 24
              And why the hell are some rules))) Write as you want !!! All words are equivalent !!!
      2. +19
        27 June 2016 15: 15
        With all the shortcomings, Dad - well done. Under a more liberal President, Belarus could long ago become what Ukraine has become.
        1. -5
          27 June 2016 17: 55
          And on the other hand, they could have long been a part of Russia from which they budged.

          So what is what.
          Rules as he can.
          BelOrusov also suits him well.
          1. 0
            28 June 2016 07: 28
            But without Russia, both Belarus and Belarusians would have stretched their legs. And the "dad" would have jumped higher than any Ukrainian. In fact, he makes a fool of Russia all that is possible. As long as they give with the Russians, they will stop jumping.

            It's time to idealize this "independent country")))

            Particularly successful in this offended by life.
            1. +1
              4 July 2016 09: 50
              Not bzdi, would not have extended.
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  2. +22
    27 June 2016 06: 33
    It’s just that people have not forgotten how to work, or have not yet forgotten how to ...
    1. +34
      27 June 2016 07: 04
      Quote: Expelling Liberoids
      It’s just that people have not forgotten how to work, or have not yet forgotten how to ...

      No, the phrase should sound: it’s just that people HAVE NOT BEEN TRAINED to work.
      What, what, but Belarus does not forget that it is a State and is obliged to keep everything under control. Have you ever heard of a "fine for parasitism"?
      And you think purity itself appeared? It's not for nothing that the author mentions fines. They are really big there, and most importantly, the punishment should be imperative, the "agreement" will not work out.
      1. +10
        27 June 2016 11: 01
        No, the phrase should sound: it’s just that people HAVE NOT BEEN TRAINED to work.
        What, what, but Belarus does not forget that it is a State and is obliged to keep everything under control. Have you ever heard of a "fine for parasitism"?
        And you think purity itself appeared? It's not for nothing that the author mentions fines. They are really big there, and most importantly, the punishment should be imperative, the "agreement" will not work out.

        30 percent in the budget, on 2016 hammered it's fines hi
        1. +3
          27 June 2016 19: 17
          Why are you lying? Or don’t you realize what you are writing?
  3. +24
    27 June 2016 06: 40
    It is written positively and interestingly. We will wait for the next articles. I hope it will be true. For many of us, relatives live there
    1. +1
      27 June 2016 11: 27
      Quote: Nonna
      It is written positively and interestingly. We will wait for the next articles. I hope it will be true. For many of us, relatives live there

      )) Banshiy, how much per diem on this business trip?
    2. +9
      27 June 2016 11: 43
      It’s a pity they don’t have their own Belarusian sea ... I would go to rest with them!
      1. +9
        27 June 2016 15: 11
        Quote: ramzes1776
        It’s a pity they don’t have their own Belarusian sea ... I would go to rest with them!

        And go to the lakes, say, in Braslav, Naroch. You don’t want to remember about the southern seas later.
      2. +6
        27 June 2016 15: 21
        I know the guys from the outskirts (they are also called pan-saucepan), they dig such seas, a sight for sore eyes!

      3. +6
        27 June 2016 19: 19
        There is a "Minsk Sea". Even before the war, my mother took part in the digging.
        1. +6
          27 June 2016 21: 06
          It was founded in 1956 by a dam on the Svisloch River to deal with floods in Minsk and to regulate river flow. It is part of the Vileika-Minsk water system.
          Hydrological observations have been conducted since 1959.
        2. +5
          28 June 2016 06: 35
          The Minsk Sea is definitely there, it’s not in vain that Psaka promised to drive the 6th fleet there
  4. +25
    27 June 2016 06: 44
    Most of all I liked the moment about the well-groomed and cleanliness and lack of guest workers. It seems that in Russia we are counting on them only. While they are looking for their work.
    1. +4
      27 June 2016 18: 10
      We also have our own without work, and many laborious and serious facilities are built by the Chinese under agreements with the government. Do not confuse tourism with emigration.
  5. +19
    27 June 2016 06: 47
    "The guest workers have not been seen at all." That's why there is cleanliness and order.
  6. +26
    27 June 2016 06: 54
    A good article .. I have been to Belarus many times, and Soviet and after. A good well-groomed country, I invite you to go there to see .. Maybe we can learn something, respect for others, cleanliness ..
  7. +60
    27 June 2016 07: 04
    Plus, Roman feel
    The opinion of a single person without distortions. A couple of comments.
    "Let's not talk about politics" - because most likely a sore topic for the people, not because, as they try to convince Lukashenka to be "aposhni of Europa's dictators," but simply because the usual stupid uncertainty. People are not fools, they can read and write and understand that it is time to decide - either with the Russian Federation, as the majority wants, or with Europa, as the liberal and venal nedoski want. And the authorities stubbornly promote "multi-vector" policy, because it was promised during the elections (which, by the way, is being fulfilled). But in the current "toughness" in the world, such a policy does not lead to good, especially when you are pressed and at the same time promised mountains of gold. request
    Second. "Don't break - you won't pay" What is not clear here. The law must be the law, so there is nothing to be surprised at. Not far from me there is a village, two streets with a "40" sign. Somehow, comrades with computers and radars became involved and checked that out of 2000 traffic cars during daylight hours there were 600 speed violations. Almost a third !!! We put a camera. now everyone is silk and people are happy - at least you can safely cross the road to the store. And the street is narrow and full of children, especially in summer (Pripyat is close) Morality - do not break.
    The third. The state is developing in accordance with its interests and capabilities, and therefore the number of gas stations complies with these standards. And we do not have oil and gas for sale, because the quantity and quality of the car corresponds to the capabilities of the people wink And on the other hand, it’s better to buy a used German than a new Russian model. Better quality and cheaper to maintain. Sorry, but this is the bitter truth winked
    Personally, my opinion hi
    It's time to work, on the road. You need to take a ride along the line, pick up garbage after the weekend, correct signs where necessary. After all, if you don’t follow it, it will become insulted to such an extent that it’s disgusting to live in the village later wink
    1. +11
      27 June 2016 11: 01
      And on the other hand, it’s better to buy a used German than a new Russian model. Better quality and cheaper to maintain. Sorry, but this is the bitter truth


      No need to sing military songs to me ... (I, as the owner of Lada Kalina) will say ...
      Comparing its service at a cost with used Germans is simply ridiculous.

      This is what the post-Soviet show-off says: "-What do you drive?"
      "in a Volkswagen!"
      "Aa!"
      And the fact that he is already seven years old and he is killed is not important ...

      Only a person absolutely far from technology can argue that a used machine can be cheaper to maintain than a new classmate.

      This is show-off gentlemen. Ponty "homo sovieticus" - and I'll sit in a convertible ... and become a European

      Further, what does Belarus do in quality better than Germany? Or at least Poland?

      Just wondering.
      1. +4
        27 June 2016 11: 30
        Quote: Olezhek
        No need to sing military songs to me ... (I, as the owner of Lada Kalina) will say ...
        Comparing its service at a cost with used Germans is simply ridiculous.

        This is what the post-Soviet show-off says: "-What do you drive?"
        "in a Volkswagen!"
        "Aa!"
        And the fact that he is already seven years old and he is killed is not important ...

        Only a person absolutely far from technology can argue that a used machine can be cheaper to maintain than a new classmate.

        This is show-off gentlemen. Ponty "homo sovieticus" - and I'll sit in a convertible ... and become a European

        Further, what does Belarus do in quality better than Germany? Or at least Poland?

        Just wondering.

        Well, if you have nowhere to go, and you change cars a year several times like gloves, then yes
        1. 0
          27 June 2016 12: 25
          Well, if you have nowhere to go, and you change cars a year several times like gloves, then yes


          Once again, German car junk / car scrap I do not buy
        2. +2
          27 June 2016 23: 17
          Quote: sherp2015
          Well, if you have nowhere to go, and you change cars a year several times like gloves, then yes

          With the exact opposite! For example, I go to the UAZ-3163 2009gv and not going to change it! Only if on the same, but new!
      2. +3
        27 June 2016 11: 40
        Residents of the borderland ride on old Germans to transport fuel across the border and hold on specifically for these events! In the trade wind tank 105 liters! And YOU WEAKLY) so your cues are all past ... And the old well-kept Passat 3-4 will give a head start!
      3. +13
        27 June 2016 12: 54
        Quote: Olezhek
        No need to sing military songs to me ... (I, as the owner of Lada Kalina) will say ...
        Comparing its service at a cost with used Germans is simply ridiculous.

        ---------------------
        Our city is rather poor, but everyone is trying to drive on a new one, these are Lada, mainly Granta and Kalina, Priora, now Xray and Vesta have begun to appear. Renault Logan and Duster, Largus, too, albeit called a fret, Kia Rio and Huinday Solaris. Who is richer, they have everything. As for the repair, no one complained about ours, there are plenty of spare parts, no need to order foreign cars. In general, people do not complex. Moreover, Renault and Lada are now one and the same. It may just be easier for Belarusians to get hold of spare parts from Polish and Lithuanian garbage dumps, that is, it’s already a matter of logistics.
      4. +10
        27 June 2016 13: 38
        Quote: Olezhek
        Further, what does Belarus do in quality better than Germany? Or at least Poland?

        Clock "Electronics", gas stoves "Hephaestus", the wallpaper is very good, can be compared with the German. There is probably something else that I don't know.
        And Roman - thanks for the positive.
        1. +7
          27 June 2016 18: 18
          And also Volaty (which is Iskander’s base), Kommunarka and Spartak sweets really steer, Belazes have a lot, a lot of things ... By the way, the tool (wrenches, for example, drills) didn’t dream much. :)
          1. 0
            27 June 2016 21: 41
            Quote: Dr. Sorge
            And also Volaty (that Iskander’s base),
            not, like there BAZ
        2. +3
          27 June 2016 18: 37
          Quote: EvgNik
          Quote: Olezhek
          Further, what does Belarus do in quality better than Germany? Or at least Poland?

          Clock "Electronics", gas stoves" Hephaestus ", the wallpaper is very good, can be compared with the German ones. Probably there is something else that I do not know.
          And Roman - thanks for the positive.

          ===
          ? ask watchmakers for an opinion on modern Belarusian watches. well, but from personal experience, their shoes are worn, and much better than Chinese. took five bicycles for dispatchers, four covered up in a month due to poor metal quality
        3. +4
          27 June 2016 19: 25
          Food ....... Well, that's what they eat. Do you understand? And it’s good there, even, one might say, excellent.
        4. 0
          27 June 2016 20: 39
          Quote: EvgNik
          gas stoves "Hephaestus"

          This is very controversial, or rather not true.
      5. +6
        27 June 2016 18: 11
        Quote: Olezhek
        No need to sing military songs to me ... (I, as the owner of Lada Kalina) will say ...
        Comparing its service at a cost with used Germans is simply ridiculous.

        Quote: Olezhek
        This is what the post-Soviet show-off says: "-What do you drive?"
        "in a Volkswagen!"
        "Aa!"
        And the fact that he is already seven years old and he is killed is not important ...

        Quote: Olezhek
        Only a person absolutely far from technology can argue that a used machine can be cheaper to maintain than a new classmate.

        In essence. The climate will be softer in our country, there is no automobile industry of our own. our people will be poorer for a number of reasons (the lack of their oil and gas, and many other gender minerals - that is, we must sell what we produce, and not take it from nature as you wink ), which means that the more important parameter is not the novelty and the manufacturer, but the carrying capacity and efficiency. In our winters, the diesel starts up normally. And he is compared to your "Ladies!" damn economical. For comparison, a few years ago I drove a diesel 2,3-liter "Ford" with one tank filling of about 70 liters to Grodno and back - 1008 km! Moreover, there was decently loaded. The question is - on the same "Kalina" I will drive a thousand km at one gas station ?! We wanted to spit on your novelty, other indicators are more important to us. Yes, your winters are harder and you will have more money - you can also ride a petrol. wink Those who are richer drive on new cars, and normal people choose according to their pocket. Do not drive across the all-freshly plowed field - the suspension will not fly, do not pour urine into the tank - the pumps will not fly. Change during oil, filter, belts and everything will be in openwork. Then a ten-year-old German or American will be more reliable than vazovskie novelties.
        PS. A classmate recently bought a Largus from a showroom. Already spitting. Instead of passport 8 liters, it eats about 11 liters (on the highway! I'm not talking about the city) First, learn how to do it, then they will buy wink At one time I had to ride a "nine" (in export version), it seemed like a good device, but when the neighbor disappears on the move, the emergency gang will turn on by itself ... lol
        You read, it’s kind of already pulling towards bourgeois quality, but still not that.
        And yes, I personally have nothing against VAZ cars, but each sandpiper praises its swamp request
        Nothing personal - to each his own hi
        1. -5
          27 June 2016 19: 14
          (the absence of its own oil and gas, and of many other half-fossils - that is, we must sell what we produce and not take from nature as you have a wink)


          What do you produce for the WORLD market? Besides potash fertilizers and "solvents"? Will you tell?

          Russians live richer because of a MORE EFFECTIVE economy
          Oil Azerbaijan with a population similar to Belarus lives poorly request
          Apparently they do not know how to drill "holes", they need to learn from the Belarusians ...


          Change during oil, filter, belts and everything will be in openwork. Then a ten-year-old German or American will be more reliable than vazovskie novelties.


          You see, if a person looks at the West from the bottom up, and this is typical of Ukrainians, Belarusians (and unfortunately many of my compatriots) will not convince him.

          You see (maybe I will surprise you) I do not look at the Germans from the bottom up (the difference of ideologies)
          1. +11
            27 June 2016 20: 07
            Quote: Olezhek
            You see, if a person looks at the West from the bottom up, and this is typical of Ukrainians, Belarusians (and unfortunately many of my compatriots) will not convince him.

            First, study the history of at least the last 100 years, then study the OPPORTUNITIES and components of economies, and why not judge everyone by yourself wink Or now begin to measure the weight of hatred of the West? And as far as the Germans (since they touched them) I don’t look from the bottom up, I don’t look tongue
            The fact that the automobile industry samples were compared is the real truth of life and there is no getting away from it and this is not a reason to lift your nose and throw unproven accusations, especially in the field of ideology hi
            And if we have already touched upon the efficiency of economies, then the weight categories are different, there is nothing to compare the incomparable. You can only compare the attitude of people to work. We, at least the New Year holidays, do not last for two weeks and the fields are still being plowed. And the products of the factories are tied to the Russian Federation because before that there was the USSR, where cooperation was the strongest and the fact that we became just an assembly shop of a great country is due to the industriousness of the population (quality) and lack of natural resources.
            Yes, and I can remind you about the efficiency of the economy using the example of unsuccessful cooperation with Uralkali, where examples of state administration (RB) and oligarchy (RF) have come out. they wanted to create a possible holding, but received an attempt at the thieves' seizure (with folding) of someone else's property. So much for efficiency wink
            PS And even if your Administrative Department of President Ivanov says that you need to keep sanctions longer so that the economy changes from raw material to production rails, then maybe it was really not so effective wink
            Before judging something, study the essence of the issue and put yourself in the place of the opponent to understand his steps and thoughts hi
            1. -5
              27 June 2016 21: 47
              Or now begin to measure the weight of hatred of the West? And already at the Germans (since they touched them) I don’t look from the bottom up, I don’t look at the tongue
              The fact that the automobile industry samples were compared is the real truth of life and there is no getting away from it and this is not a reason to lift your nose and throw unproven accusations, especially in the field of ideology


              It:

              Then a ten-year-old German or American will be more reliable than vazovskie novelties.


              pure ideology. Sorry. Incidentally, I am very tolerant and do not forbid anyone to pray to Frau Merkel and her pack of talented and dynamic Germans.

              But I’m not going to do it myself. Such is the ideology.

              And if we have already touched upon the efficiency of economies, then the weight categories are different, there is nothing to compare the incomparable.


              1 RF pulls the defense and pulled a non-fictitious war in the Caucasus / Syria further everywhere ...
              Gigantic expenses.

              In general, 2 RB lived "on subsidies" for a long time. When they came out, it turned out that there was no profitable economy in Belarus as such.

              3 Nobody forced Belarusians to build separate state
              Did you take it? Do not cry or complain about the scale.
              1. +9
                27 June 2016 22: 02
                Quote: Olezhek
                1 RF pulls the defense and pulled a non-fictitious war in the Caucasus / Syria further everywhere ...
                Gigantic expenses.

                I repeat - do not compare the incomparable. there are different scales wink hi
                Quote: Olezhek
                2 RB generally lived "on subsidies" for a long time. When they came out, it turned out that there is no profitable economy in Belarus as such

                I repeat - learn history. All enterprises of the Republic of Bashkortostan remained from the USSR and were focused on volumes that would satisfy such a country as the USSR. Read more "Capital" by K. Marx in order to comprehend the essence of commodity-money relations carried over to relations between the two countries. Then a lot will become clear. By the way, I read wink and many things are clear to me, albeit at the level of an ordinary hard worker, not a professor hi
                Quote: Olezhek
                3 Nobody forced Belarusians to build a separate state
                Did you take it? Do not cry or complain about the scale.

                Do you propose to prostrate yourself, to pee around your shoes and faithfully enter the Russian Federation in what kind of region is it?
                A weak build a normal Union State ??? Or it’s easier to fold, like we are cooler, bigger and stronger. Nobody argues. But the whole point is that not only are we so bad we can only ask, but you will also learn to speak normally with those who are still loyal to you. wink hi
          2. +6
            28 June 2016 00: 08
            On the third day I watched your tractor drifting competitions in the Far East on a box. Tell me, why were all the tractors from the Minsk Tractor? I saw MTZ-82 and MTZ 1221. And one large-bodied one (I don’t know the brand, but MTZ on the hood). What did John Deere not please you? On your open spaces they are not visible.
          3. +3
            28 June 2016 01: 25
            Quote: Olezhek
            And what do you produce for the WORLD market?

            Well, for example BalAZ, have you heard? It is strange, considering that their share in this type of equipment is quite high at the world level (and is known as one of the best in its class). Agricultural machinery ... it's really worse here, but they sell a lot. Household appliances, if we throw out everything foreign, then local production will provide the whole country with domestic technology and still have to push on the leftist. Above we wrote about shoes .... it was packed 3 years ago, some can still be worn for a wedding. I don't like things ... tastelessness, and "wooden", there is rarely something good. But for example, bed linen is much better than "Ivanovsky". Oil and gas, chemical industry, metal products. Mechanical engineering is not limited to agricultural machinery and BelAZ, there is also the production of machine tools and other equipment. They also extract chalk and pump oil a little with gas. The watch mentioned above .... for me is nonsense, but they still produce. Bicycles Stork ... I agree with the author of the message above ..... it is better not to take ... except that used 30 years ago)))) In general, there is enough for such a small population of the country.
          4. +1
            4 July 2016 10: 01
            Imperial ambitions ... The country is fucked up, there are imbeciles in the state fool, there is no way from black-asses - but still "we are all the best, we are more beautiful than all, smarter and more modest of all"

            Russia is a good country, I do not fuck. It's a pity only people are shit
        2. +2
          28 June 2016 00: 03
          It's right. My "Civic" from under the third priests, podshamanny eat his 5.5 on the highway for seven years now. And it’s not true that I’m cunning at the gas station, I haven’t seen this.
    2. +2
      28 June 2016 00: 28
      "Without distortions" - well, well. Why has Europe not pleased you? Before insulting people who want a better life for themselves and their families, maybe I would have gone a little further away from my "village" and looked at how people live in Poland at least! Obviously a typical parasite state idler - "Somehow comrades with computers and radars became and checked that out of 2000 traffic cars during daylight hours, 600 speed violations" - this is how much time you need to kill if it is not a direct responsibility ...

      PS / For example, I think it’s stupid for us to desire "either tuda or syudy" given what we have done with Ukraine .... I prefer the model of Finland for my country, which works, trades and is friends with all neighbors from 4 sides.
      1. +2
        28 June 2016 06: 29
        Quote: artgrad
        "Somehow comrades with computers and radars became and checked that out of 2000 traffic cars during daylight hours, 600 speed violations" - this is how much time you need to kill if it is not a direct responsibility ...

        Or maybe the guys did their work? They had a task to determine in what places it makes sense to put a video recording camera. Camera is not an expensive thing wink So they determined, and if this requires a day to sit and fix, then they will sit for a day and fix. Here I am in favor of both hands. And, by the way, according to the stories of local residents, at first it was like during the day from frequent detections at night. laughing
  8. +14
    27 June 2016 07: 22
    Thanks to Roma for the morning positive! drinks Bulbash himself, although born and live in Russia. hi
    1. +9
      27 June 2016 11: 31
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      Bulbash himself, although born and live in Russia.


      Bulbasham - Physical Fitness!
  9. +21
    27 June 2016 07: 36
    In our small Siberian town and in the environs, many of the same will take place. And the people are somehow not antsy. And local lawnmakers. Ten thousand. There are teetotal people with diplomas and higher technical qualifications (IL76 will be repaired with closed eyes). They killed, say, aircraft, closed factories. What are migrant workers? Before retirement a year or two. So they are pulling ... Although, any deputy will say: lazy crooked hands. In the north, Bandera and Ishilovites earn money. Southerners are not favored there. So, where he was born, there he came in handy. "Love your motherland, your mother!" - as it was written on school notebooks in the 1970s.
    Here is Belarus. Where do they go? It is better to create coziness in the house and live in it, than to ride with the hope of dumping in Europe.
    Bad one: "everything passes." And either entropy will come, or - a singularity. Let's wait twenty years?
  10. +37
    27 June 2016 08: 12
    However, it is pleasant to hear a clear opinion about the Motherland. For those 2 of the year that I graze on this site, I read so much nasty things that Belarus tse vukrayna, Belarus tse Europe, Belarus tse vrazhina. So I understand that some paid authors write to order, because it is not my homeland.
    I recognized my homeland here, from Roman. Thank!
    By article:
    1. I don’t use gas, so I won’t say chocak. But about gasoline - we have good one. 2 city-forming plants in our entire microscopic (9 lyam population) country. More expensive than in Russia, but you don’t have to think about where to refuel, I taxied to any gas station, even in the village, and everything is in accordance with GOST, STN and so on.
    2. The order he is. It is necessary not only to clean, but not to litter. Although in Minsk, if you set a goal, you can find dirt. The hired collective farmers do not value the place in which they live and quickly litter them. For urapatriots I can give examples of the Kamenogorsk jungle and green pine forest.
    3. An example at a crossroads is somehow unrealistic. Based on personal experience, Belarusian vodtyals are less polite than in Russia. At least, on their Moscow Ring Road they will let people pass from one strip to another, but we don’t. They will also full-blown.
    4. Politics ... If only you lived with people for a week, drank a lot with them, plowed with them on the cabbage plantations, then it would be possible for politics. And so ... It is not interesting. So everything is clear. And suddenly "Cossacks".
    5. Well, about the hospitality. If people are normal, then why not pour, tell and te ...
    1. -5
      27 June 2016 09: 57
      However, it is pleasant to hear a clear opinion about the Motherland. For those 2 of the year that I graze on this site, I read so much nasty things that Belarus tse vukrayna, Belarus tse Europe, Belarus tse vrazhina. So I understand that some paid authors write to order, because it is not my homeland.


      1 In Germany, roads and cars are much better than in Belarus. Fact. So what?
      2 The reason for the "dirty tricks" is the very policy that the Belarusians did not want to talk about from the article.
      You can’t receive subsidies from Russia and pursue an anti-Russian policy. It is impossible, even if you really want.
      1. +8
        27 June 2016 11: 34
        Quote: Olezhek
        1 In Germany, roads and cars are much better than in Belarus. Fact. So what?
        2 The reason for the "dirty tricks" is the very policy that the Belarusians did not want to talk about from the article.
        You can’t receive subsidies from Russia and pursue an anti-Russian policy. It is impossible, even if you really want.

        You are probably a fan of USA, Israel and favorite heroes Yeltsin Nemtsov Chubai and Hoko-Mada ...)))
        1. +1
          27 June 2016 12: 27

          You are probably a fan of USA, Israel and favorite heroes Yeltsin Nemtsov Chubai and Hoko-Mada ...)))


          I am definitely not a fan of A. G. Lukashenko.
      2. +10
        27 June 2016 12: 50
        Judging by what was written, you would like to, not the residents of Belarus :)
        1. -4
          27 June 2016 20: 48
          Quote: Dr. Sorge
          Judging by what was written, you would like to, not the residents of Belarus :)

          That is, the Belarusians as Ukrainians and want to send loans and the Russian Federation. Well then, what is he wrong about?
      3. +2
        27 June 2016 19: 30
        You really Olezhek still, and already something crowing. Grow up, study, grow smart, Olezhek.
      4. +6
        27 June 2016 21: 44
        Well, in Ukraine, they "agreed" on politics, jumped, galloped, and what, who got better?
        You compare the roads and cars of Belarus and Germany, and it did not occur to you to compare the history of Belarus and Germany.
        As regards anti-Russian politics, so in Russia itself there are many such figures who, in the good old days, the NKVD or the KGB would have occupied in the dense, but not impossible, democracy, however.
    2. +2
      27 June 2016 11: 17
      a month later I’ll go to Belarus, just to the Brest region, I haven’t been there for 10 years, I used to go to my relatives every year. In the material, everything is similar to how I saw from the car window)))
      1. +6
        27 June 2016 18: 00
        There will be an opportunity to call in Nesvizh, the castle of the 16-18 centuries. restored visit :) It is not very far from the Brest highway.
      2. 0
        29 June 2016 21: 12
        Quote: Edvagan
        a month later I’ll go to Belarus, just to the Brest region, I haven’t been there for 10 years, I used to go to my relatives every year. In the material, everything is similar to how I saw from the car window)))

        only do not go along the Gomel-Brest highway, otherwise it’s one disappointment (no road, no service,)
        but in general Belarus is wrapped in a candy wrapper.
    3. +18
      27 June 2016 11: 22
      For the past 5 years I have been traveling with my family ONLY to rest in the BSSR! There is no sea, BUT there are gorgeous Braslov lakes. And there are many more worthy of attention. I always travel by car and recommend this country to everyone for relaxation. And if anyone says bad things about the BSSR , hit the face right away! One thing is depressing, the price increase! I don’t know the price of gasoline like ours, but the location of the gas stations is strange, but the payment is so even in rubles, even in euros. In Polotsk, in general, the price is a liter in all currencies at the gas station. Brest and strength, one street of Gogol’s worth what. Well and generally the buzz is excellent and cheap, the local drunk is not bad either. I took the Minsk spill champagne in Brest, but it’s lost under the French license! once they braked under Gomel. And then I was insolent! Well, nothing 2 rubles and the problem was closed! And yes, if you see a black jeep at a speed of EVEN 90, it means ours is flying! So I recommend everyone not to regret it!
      1. -1
        27 June 2016 12: 58
        Many of us are from the Soviet Union, but after having been on vacation in Belarus in 2015, I said: “I don’t want to return to the conditions of the USSR under any circumstances!” PS: They have a gas station that's still a problem. Refuel at home. and at the sight of any gas station, stop and top up.
      2. +5
        27 June 2016 21: 49
        Bad talk about Belarus, if not fans of Lukashenko, then surely fans of the Yeltsin Center.
        1. +1
          29 June 2016 21: 18
          Quote: Svidetel 45
          Bad talk about Belarus, if not fans of Lukashenko, then surely fans of the Yeltsin Center.

          What Yeltsin Center? what are the parallels?
          I am for Belarus and Russia, Ukraine without horses, but Lukashism is a diagnosis.
    4. +6
      27 June 2016 15: 00
      It’s not necessary about the site and about those who are here, if they didn’t write anything, it doesn’t mean that Belarusians are not respected, many people respect and know what wonderful people are, and how it is known which people are such a beautiful country.
      A month and a half is left before vacation, I sleep and see when I enter Belarus, this beautiful country where people are real people ...
    5. 0
      12 July 2016 23: 39
      Quote: M0xHaTka
      2 city-forming plants

      Novopolotsk can and can be attributed to this category, but Mozyr is 8 and a half centuries old, by no means.
  11. +14
    27 June 2016 08: 17
    In pursuit.
    Over the 300 years that Russia has been Russifying my country, we have long been Russian. With an accent, of course, but Russians. And I will not say for everyone, but those with whom I spoke do not divide the former USSR into Belarus and Russia. We are just a "Special Belarusian District" within the RFII. I would like it to be so in reality. But the daddy has his own opinion on this topic. Which is obviously beneficial to Vladvladych.
    1. +5
      27 June 2016 09: 40
      In the 90s, we did not merge with Belarus because the Old Man would be the Old Man, that our thieves didn’t need, and now the Old Man doesn’t need it, for it’s definitely not for him to steer.
    2. +12
      27 June 2016 13: 02
      Quote: M0xHaTka
      Over the 300 years that Russia has been Russifying my country, we have long been Russian. With an accent, of course, but Russians. And I will not say for everyone, but those with whom I spoke do not divide the former USSR into Belarus and Russia. We are just a "Special Belarusian District" within the RFII. I would like it to be so in reality. But the daddy has his own opinion on this topic. Which is obviously beneficial to Vladvladych.

      -------------------------
      What kind of Russification? Did you need polonization? No one spoke Belarusian, but the inscription at the station "Glory, Savetskaya Navutsi!" was. If you think so, then now the anglicification is underway. Everyone is learning the language in demand. Here, as they spoke Chuvash, they do, but they understand that outside the republic this language is not in demand, except for the settlements in Ulyanovsk, Bashkiria and Saratov. And so in many local languages.
    3. +1
      27 June 2016 20: 59
      Quote: M0xHaTka
      In the 300 years that Russia has been russifying my country,

      After that, he writes that they write poorly about you here on the site. .

      You were always Russian, but Russified the Poles, Lithuanians, semi-Poles, half-Lithuanians and opposed Russians. You can write anything you like, but from ancient times the Polovtsians are Russian princes and not otherwise. After many centuries of life, between you and the Poles, you had a historic choice to become Russians or Poles again. I think so to become the one who was originally much better.
      1. +2
        27 June 2016 21: 56
        Quotation: blooded man
        You can write anything you like, but from ancient times the Polovtsians are Russian princes and not otherwise

        Polovtsy are not Poles, and as the name of the people has nothing to do with the city of Polotsk. Polovtsy are a nomadic Turkic people. So I'm sorry, but your knowledge of history is in question.
        1. -3
          27 June 2016 22: 07
          Quote: MyVrach
          Polovtsy are a nomadic Turkic people. So I'm sorry, but your knowledge of history is in question.

          So I wrote about the Principality of Polotsk, which occupied most of modern Belarus. In many annals they are called Polovtsy.
          What actually doesn't suit you?
  12. +16
    27 June 2016 08: 22
    We concluded for ourselves that life in a small police state is rather complicated and problematic for the people. In some aspects.

    There is no police state here, funnels at night do not go for "political" ones, they do not arrange mass executions in suburban forests. But for insulting the head of state, they may well be attracted. And any militia / police is primarily a punitive service. But at least at night you can walk along the street calmly. And on the roads, yes. You can drive yourself in violation and no one will touch you. But within a month, a solid bill will come for a photo of the face of your car.
    1. +4
      27 June 2016 12: 40
      I've just returned from a trip to Belarus. One incomprehensible moment - there is such an area - Luninetsky, in my opinion, was stopped by a policeman for speeding, well, yes, he really violated by 10 km / h, however, he wrote out a protocol and said that you can pay at any bank - I walked around in Brest three banks, I could not pay in any of them, since there were no details (accounts, etc.), and in all three banks they doubted the mental abilities of the guard who wrote the protocol. Yes, and I, when he wrote out, asked about the requisites, to which he replied that I still have to bring the receipt of payment to their regional department, otherwise "you will hang in the database" imagine, I had to make a decent hook to bring the receipt. That is, in principle, all the misunderstandings that occurred in Belarus - and otherwise - everything above is correctly written - even if they live poorly, but neatly and nicely. PS - I never paid the fine, because it didn't work out. I wonder how you can pay for it without bank details?
      1. +1
        27 June 2016 15: 30
        I wonder how it can be paid without bank details?
        Only in cash, either locally or in their local department. wink laughing
      2. 0
        27 June 2016 15: 31
        Quote: yawa63
        Here, in principle, all the misunderstandings that occurred in my country in Belarus - but in the rest - everything is correctly written above - albeit poorly live, but clean and nice

        Yeah, live with us, in the conditions of a killed industry and a constant rise in prices, let's see how you like the Belarusian "clean and nice".
        1. 0
          27 June 2016 19: 03
          Dear, you don’t have to look at life so gloomily - and in Russia, everything is not so smooth - so what’s the point - nothing, let’s break through, I know for sure!
        2. -5
          27 June 2016 19: 40
          License plate, father pinched something for speculation with something?
          1. +3
            27 June 2016 20: 49
            Quote: tolian
            License plate, father pinched something for speculation with something?

            I am not a speculator. But I live in Belarus, I know better how "wonderful" life is. It's one thing to visit Minsk and admire how beautiful it is, another thing to live permanently in Belarusian "stability"
            1. +5
              29 June 2016 21: 26
              Quote: 0255
              Quote: tolian
              License plate, father pinched something for speculation with something?

              I am not a speculator. But I live in Belarus, I know better how "wonderful" life is. It's one thing to visit Minsk and admire how beautiful it is, another thing to live permanently in Belarusian "stability"

              100%
        3. +2
          29 June 2016 21: 25
          Quote: 0255
          Quote: yawa63
          Here, in principle, all the misunderstandings that occurred in my country in Belarus - but in the rest - everything is correctly written above - albeit poorly live, but clean and nice

          Yeah, live with us, in the conditions of a killed industry and a constant rise in prices, let's see how you like the Belarusian "clean and nice".

          I fully support you.
          I work as a driver, I have three children, the trouble is complete, but on TV the window dress is all in openwork.
      3. -2
        27 June 2016 19: 38
        And I in Minsk could not pay for the trip in a trolley bus. Just no one told where or to whom to pay. So with perplexity and drove to the desired stop. But they looked at me with interest. I still laugh as I remember.
    2. +4
      27 June 2016 21: 01
      Quote: DesToeR
      There is no police state here

      There is. The United States is also a wealthy police state.
  13. +2
    27 June 2016 08: 56
    When I put gas equipment in, they warned me that Russian gas should not be poured, such as additives, gaskets and something else ... a tank of 60 liters. fits 53 liters. gas, on the column the numbers shows, so I don’t know how the author was poured 60, the flow rate is 50 liters per 400 km, but I have a 2.5 liter engine. In short, I pour our gas in front of the Russian border when I go there, but it turns out, on the contrary )))
  14. +8
    27 June 2016 09: 04
    I did not expect such a positive response from Belarus from Skomorokhov, I really liked seeing ... :)
    By the way, the Stalin Line is really worth a trip.
  15. +8
    27 June 2016 09: 10
    What a positive, good article this morning, the mood has already risen! I am sincerely glad for the brothers-Belarusians (but not the "younger" ones, but the "twins" good ) and kindly envy. In my native Omsk and the region (which is similar in size to Belarus) there is a complete lack of roads, but I’ll keep silent about cleanliness (bags are standing on the streets from the cleanup). sad
    1. +7
      27 June 2016 14: 30
      Call dad to your manager :)
      He is in the first place as an anti-crisis worker and business executive
      In general, FROM THE SOUL I wish each subject of the Russian Federation such a dad. With all its shortcomings, Belarus is an independent and self-sufficient state!

      ps In the evening I will overturn the glass - for Russia (you give the Old Man to each region :)), and the second for Belarus - prosperity and prosperity.
      Damn, when I get together there to the relatives ... Grandmother says everything, go get to know each other. Hi Chernyam !!!
      1. +2
        27 June 2016 15: 34
        Quote: Rostovchanin
        Belarus is an independent and self-sufficient state!

        Self-sufficient ??? Surely our politicians from self-sufficiency beg for another loan from the Chinese, Russia, the EU or the IMF?
        Come to us for permanent residence, you will quickly be disappointed in your ideas about our "astravok of stability and pre-bloom".
        1. +3
          27 June 2016 17: 36
          By almost all indicators, Belarus is many times poorer than Ukraine, but thanks to a competent policy, the standard of living in Belarus is 2 times higher than in Ukraine. And then you roll a barrel to Lukashenko. So it spins like a squirrel in a wheel, note every penny in the budget of the republic, and not in your pocket. Sometimes you need to turn on your brains and analyze the situation.
          1. +1
            27 June 2016 21: 10
            Quote: skobars
            . So he spins like a squirrel in a wheel, note every penny in the budget of the republic, and not in your pocket.

            Well, they mainly live on our loans. HOW CRISIS, SO RF CREDIT TO A COUPLE OF LARDS FOR 9 MILLION. So what undead. It is not necessary to compare with the Ukrainians, since there are absolutely ido. You live.
          2. +3
            29 June 2016 21: 30
            Quote: skobars
            By almost all indicators, Belarus is many times poorer than Ukraine, but thanks to a competent policy, the standard of living in Belarus is 2 times higher than in Ukraine. And then you roll a barrel to Lukashenko. So it spins like a squirrel in a wheel, note every penny in the budget of the republic, and not in your pocket. Sometimes you need to turn on your brains and analyze the situation.

            PF)))
        2. -6
          27 June 2016 19: 41
          License plate, go to Bandera. Are your roots there?
          1. +5
            27 June 2016 20: 52
            Quote: tolian
            License plate, go to Bandera. Are your roots there?

            Go to Belarus for permanent residence, you will see what is not so good with us as it seems to you.
            I’m not going to go to Bandera. Stop thinking that everyone who disagrees with you is sure to Bandera
            1. +2
              29 June 2016 21: 32
              Quote: 0255
              Quote: tolian
              License plate, go to Bandera. Are your roots there?

              Go to Belarus for permanent residence, you will see what is not so good with us as it seems to you.
              I’m not going to go to Bandera. Stop thinking that everyone who disagrees with you is sure to Bandera

              this is natural, if you pray onions, then you pray to the west,) BRIEF!
        3. +1
          28 June 2016 10: 58
          I will tell you a BIG secret Russia as a state also uses various loans, incl. and loans. And the loan does not mean that the country is not self-sufficient. First of all, self-sufficiency is manifested in the ability to provide oneself with the needs of the first necessities, and this is always a roof over your head, food and clothing. Which of these parameters is bad? Yes, I agree, you have no gas. But the father's policy is to get gas from Russia, but not just buy it. Belarus if that is our first western redoubt. And that's why he takes loans on favorable terms and does not buy gas at European prices. Here, as it were, mutual concessions. And everyone understands everything. But as soon as a thread begins to "bury itself" there is a thread of scandal. The mechanism of interaction between Russia and Belarus has been worked out :). So loans are not a net indicator.
          1. +1
            28 June 2016 13: 34
            Since when does the collapse of the course every five years have good governance? Credit, loan strife. It's one thing to take on development. and another thing in the collapse of the economy.
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      2. -1
        27 June 2016 21: 08
        Quote: Rostovchanin
        In general, FROM THE SOUL I wish each subject of the Russian Federation such a dad.

        That the governor would rasskreyut it and in each of our region would be great. But for the presidency we don't need him.
  16. +2
    27 June 2016 09: 25
    Quote: M0xHaTka
    But about gasoline - we have good one. 2 city-forming plants in our entire microscopic (9 lyam population) country. More expensive than in Russia, but there’s no need to think about where to refuel, I taxied to any gas station, even in the village, and everything is in accordance with GOST, STN and so on.

    And the price of gasoline has not changed for several years - 1 liter of AI-92 -11 100 bel. rubles. And now the rate is about 300 per Russian ...
  17. +3
    27 June 2016 09: 33
    Interesting. Thank you for the report ...
    I always read "News from the fields" with interest ...
  18. +3
    27 June 2016 09: 33
    Thank you for the article. The impressions of Russians from a trip to Belarus were talented. Three times in the last two years he was on business trips in the Minsk region, and each time he left with the hope to come again. Author ++++++++
  19. +6
    27 June 2016 09: 36
    Friends went to Belarus that year, I liked very smooth roads, cleanliness, quiet traffic, local people behave correctly on the roads ......., in principle, they told the local auto industry the same thing, for a very long time they couldn’t get used to Belarusian millions) )) at the gas station a couple of hundred square meters for tea was given ... then we realized that it was a penny in general ....

    Then the Belarusians came to us on a return visit to Krasnodar, they came .... they were very surprised by the right-handed cars of which we also have a lot, expensive cars and a completely different driving culture, more aggressive ... but in general they are absolutely the same as us .. .there is always something to talk about ..... I will say one thing ... it was easy with them as with relatives

    the only thing that remains a mystery to me is why they think that the whole Far East and Siberia were almost captured by the Chinese and why in 10 years Belarus will become one region of Russia ....?
    1. -15
      27 June 2016 09: 45
      Friends that year went to Belarus, I liked smooth roads, cleanliness, quiet traffic, the locals behave themselves correctly on the roads


      Go to Germany, there is even better with it: with roads and with cars and with driving culture.
      1. +19
        27 June 2016 09: 51
        What does the Germans have to do with it? We are about our brothers, and not about nemchuru ... Although Berlin was then Slavic :)
        1. -14
          27 June 2016 10: 06
          And what have the Germans? We are about our brothers


          You know, when they say that a girl had beautiful hair ... then everything is clear with her appearance.
          So the endless talk about the good quality of Belarusian roads also suggests some thoughts ...

          Sad, let's say.
          1. 0
            27 June 2016 19: 46
            Khlopchyk, there are two of you here - license plate and you. And this is for so many commenters. Doesn't it seem strange? So maybe shut up?
          2. +1
            29 June 2016 21: 38
            Quote: Olezhek
            And what have the Germans? We are about our brothers


            You know, when they say that a girl had beautiful hair ... then everything is clear with her appearance.
            So the endless talk about the good quality of Belarusian roads also suggests some thoughts ...

            Sad, let's say.

            In Russia, the federals are no worse, well, we have nothing, either.
            just how much is that Belarus? quality is lame, but we are learning, the climate for roads is tough with us
      2. +2
        27 June 2016 13: 50
        What? Again? In 1945 there were ...
      3. +3
        27 June 2016 13: 52
        and where are the Germans, it’s not bad for me in the South of Russia either, and I can only talk to them about how my grandfathers and grandmothers handed out to them at one time
    2. +6
      27 June 2016 09: 48
      Yes, probably about the Kytays because there are a lot of them in Minsk :)
    3. +1
      27 June 2016 19: 44
      And this is the local Bandera trying. Well, the fools who are everywhere in any country carry these fables.
    4. 0
      27 June 2016 21: 13
      Quote: darksoul
      the only thing that remains a mystery to me is why they think that the whole Far East and Siberia were almost captured by the Chinese and why in 10 years Belarus will become one region of Russia ....?

      Yes, and the Russian Federation I think so much about Siberia and the Far East)) Of course it will be our region, since people feel that way.
  20. +12
    27 June 2016 09: 43
    Thanks for the kind, ironic, warm, sincere article.

    And about the police - it’s high time for our local opponents to send cigarette butts to the ring. It will be even cleaner! :) We dream about it)))

    Be sure to come to the Stalin Line!
    Thank you again!
    We are together, we are one.
  21. +7
    27 June 2016 09: 53
    And the fields are really beautiful. And when rapeseed blooms or buckwheat, the smell of honey on the highway is so worth it!
    1. +2
      27 June 2016 19: 48
      Exactly !!!! Especially buckwheat. And there are enough bees, the field rings!
  22. +4
    27 June 2016 10: 10
    Quote: Olezhek
    Go to Germany, there is even better with it: with roads and with cars and with driving culture.

    Yes garbage Germany. A village compared to Singapore ...
    And at Distneyland you can. And to Las Vegas.
    One only but. This is a family showdown, and there ...
    As history shows, the princes' main enemies and allies were siblings.
    So, if the brother is not an enemy, it’s already good. And if he’s a friend, and he’s doing fine, it’s nice ...
  23. +2
    27 June 2016 10: 15
    Roman, your article can be inserted directly into the advertising material: "Come to Belarus!" :)))
  24. 0
    27 June 2016 10: 21
    A Belarusian driving a man is absolutely law-abiding (and otherwise with such fines and total surveillance) and cultural.

    But as soon as he crosses the border and enters the Russian Federation, he transforms instantly and dumps the garbage brought with him from Belarus here off the road here is considered a matter of honor.
    1. +4
      27 June 2016 10: 32
      And what do you think is the problem? We also have strains with cottages near dachas, everything depends on a specific person.
      1. 0
        27 June 2016 12: 19
        I can’t judge the dachas, but in this case the problem is upbringing and the lack of a sufficient number of places where you can throw garbage. And who does not believe that this is exactly what is happening, take an interest in the people who service the M-1 highway, you will find out a lot of interesting things. That Belarusians that Pshek, the latter especially, when crossing the border with the coils go.
        1. 0
          27 June 2016 15: 46
          That Belarusians that Pshek, the latter especially, when crossing the border with the coils go.
          Maybe the thing is that in Russia there are no the same fines as in Belarus?
        2. +2
          28 June 2016 13: 30
          Bullshit. In your opinion, it turns out that garbage is being brought from Belarus to throw it in Russia. Here in Belarus (and I think that in Russia too) they say that it’s purely not where they clean, but where they do not litter.
          How many traveled across Russia, I have never seen people get out of a car with Belarusian license plates and go piggyback.
    2. +4
      27 June 2016 19: 49
      Is it right that the garbage is brought to Russia from Belarus?
  25. +19
    27 June 2016 10: 33
    I often visit Belarus. I fully agree with the conclusions of the author.
    They live within their means, work according to their conscience, do not fall for "cookies", honor and remember history, no problems with language, set realistic goals and achieve results.
    Belarus, as a state, is much more socially oriented than Russia.
    Lukashenko, whatever they say about him, knows and remembers by whose work everything is created in this world, and defends the interests of his country and people, whether others like it or not.
    Author Respect.
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  27. +2
    27 June 2016 11: 12
    In Krichev, to our surprise, we found out that the Belrubls do not shine for us. For sunday. And all exchangers to a single closed. Well, it does not matter, on the way more civil Mogilyov. Right now!


    I won’t say anything about Krichev, but in Mogilev they searched poorly.
    Write to anyone you need, tell me where to look. :)
    1. +1
      27 June 2016 12: 51
      But what, Russian rubles are no longer in use, as it was .... long ago, in 2008, before our crisis? A lot of order in Belarus has become commendable .... I’ll tell you the truth, I used to catch fish in Kamchatka, I’ve been abroad .... In the USA, the Canadian dollar was not respected and not accepted for payment, and in Canada the US dollar was in use .. .. And Zealand all foreign exchange transactions through the bank ...... For sailors and fishermen, the conversion of local dollars was carried out without a fee .......
      1. +2
        27 June 2016 14: 10
        wink It is necessary to exchange for ours, though since 1 July will not be millions, new money will be introduced.
        1. +5
          27 June 2016 15: 23
          Eh, again the grannies will have to study everything :) There is little sense from these new ones ... :) It would be better if the Russians introduced a single currency (gold) :)
          1. +2
            27 June 2016 16: 00
            Quote: Dr. Sorge
            Eh, again the grannies will have to study everything :) There is little sense from these new ones ... :) It would be better if the Russians introduced a single currency (gold) :)

            Slogans about the Russian ruble in Belarus have long ended, somewhere in the late 90s or early 2000s
            1. +2
              27 June 2016 18: 12
              So what? New is well forgotten :)
        2. 0
          27 June 2016 20: 24
          , new money is introduced.


          Euros are similar but not Euros ...
    2. +2
      27 June 2016 20: 34
      It’s not a state secret. You can exchange currency in Mogilev on any day of the week, and at the same time you can be at the railway station around the clock, except for lunch time and those. breaks.
  28. +5
    27 June 2016 11: 16
    I enjoyed reading the travel notes. Thanks to the author.
  29. +11
    27 June 2016 11: 20
    Itself drove twice.
    But, not as a re-enactor, but rather a tourist, rather. Brest showed daughters, and told.
    Everything is correct in the article.
    Especially in terms of roads. It seemed to me that, in terms of infrastructure, the roads of Belarus will be in second place, after the German ones. The Polish still pass.
    Had a ride from Orel to Cologne, through Gomel, Brest, and back through Minsk. Back in 2013.
    And especially, really, it is amazing that not a single Gaster can be seen, but the cleanliness is amazing. Where is Alexanderplatz in Berlin or Dome Square in Cologne.
    In Belarus, even waste sites are somehow dealt with.
    Wonderful Belarus.
    Again, I want to go there, to Dudutki, to the Radzivilov castle, in Staro Miachst in Minsk.
  30. 0
    27 June 2016 11: 23
    Hello everyone! thanks to the author for the article, yes, we have order, cleanly, but there’s enough negativity, it’s better to keep silent about politics, we generally discuss this out of place, Snowden has already explained everything before. And yes, there is where to relax, but the prices are clearly are designed for visitors, gas? Yes, gas was dissolved as water or nearby the tanks were mixed up, so it’s the norm, gasoline ⛽ rises in price against the background of oil prices, but in general it’s better not to argue about this and not to discuss our politicians.
    Everything is sad but you can live.
  31. +4
    27 June 2016 11: 39
    Slavneft had the most durable woven St. George ribbons.
    About politics. Yes, we are discussing like everyone else and we are.
    But the problem is common - pyrdostan. From him problems climb.

    Soon a denomination .... Again confusion with new money :)
    1. +1
      27 June 2016 12: 14
      And what does SlavNeft and ribbons have to do with it? There is a SlavNeft office in Krasnoyarsk, I wanted to get a job there on a pipe-cutting lathe, they did not take it by age .......
  32. +31
    27 June 2016 12: 00
    As a 38-year-old Belarusian who has lived in this country, I will say briefly on the article:
    - Penalties in Belarusian rubles.
    - The plan for fines REALLY is
    - None of the familiar "gas users" complained about the quality of gas at filling stations
    - Clean, because they CLEAN, and not everywhere. There are enough of our "pigs" in human form, as well as garbage in the forests (.
    - There really are no migrant workers
    - The vast majority of people are extremely friendly towards Russians
  33. +6
    27 June 2016 12: 08
    Thank you for the article. First time positive about us. It’s a pity they didn’t go through Gomel. drinks
  34. +2
    27 June 2016 12: 18
    I was in Brest ... for a long time, for a long time .... My mother is a Belarusian, villages are no longer villages, I think Khotislav, Maloritsky district ........ Beautiful, greenery in the city, cleanliness .... ..And in the fields of the village, flax grew, blue flax ..... AND BURYAKI ......
  35. 0
    27 June 2016 12: 21
    Thank you so much, Roman, for a serving of positive !!!
  36. +9
    27 June 2016 12: 46
    And the bulbs, normal owners, are tucked away from public roads.
    well, they go there all sorts of understand ...)
    hi
    1. 0
      27 June 2016 18: 16
      Quote: _Vlad_
      And the bulbs, normal owners, are tucked away from public roads.

      A bulba is also a bulba in the Urals. However, we plant where we want.
  37. +15
    27 June 2016 12: 57
    In Belarus, the question of the choice between Russia and Europe is raised only by policemen who, for any external
    adversity is being sold both at home and in the soul, they don’t care with anyone, if only it would be profitable for them.
    Belarusians are not afraid of talking about politics, just Old Man is scolded by fools, drunkards and those whom he feeds
    drove away and the rest just live, study, work and rest, give birth to children.
    In general, the Belarusians, who consciously who subconsciously, have the understanding that we do not have a hole
    in the land from which you can get oil, gas, gold, diamonds and other wealth.
    There is no access to the sea with its bottomless resources.
    There is no multimillion influx of tourists with their thick wallets. Therefore, we live by making money ourselves.
    1. -9
      27 June 2016 13: 46
      In general, the Belarusians, who consciously who subconsciously, have the understanding that we do not have a hole
      in the land from which you can get oil, gas, gold, diamonds and other wealth


      You have a very simplified view of the economy. belay
      1. +6
        27 June 2016 15: 03
        And you would pour all the negativity around. Change the training manual.
        Life in people, not State Department instructions.
        :)
      2. +6
        27 June 2016 15: 19
        Everyone in the world has a different view of the economy.
        But, unfortunately, we have very good knowledge about the policemen. During the Great Patriotic War, our grandfathers and underground workers had to clean a lot of scum. Yes, and after in the forests to catch Bandera. The main thing about this was written by Sancho16 /
      3. +1
        27 June 2016 19: 54
        Boy, you du ..... undergrowth?
      4. +3
        28 June 2016 12: 11
        Quote: Olezhek
        You have a very simplified view of the economy. belay

        And you, son, it is completely absent laughing
    2. +6
      27 June 2016 15: 02
      They said it right, because the Opps are trying to undermine the situation
      1. -5
        27 June 2016 15: 39
        Quote: Dr. Sorge
        They said it right, because the Opps are trying to undermine the situation

        Yeah, anyone who is dissatisfied with the poverty and industry killed in the country is immediately opposed, the fifth column, State Department agent, liberalist, etc. etc.
        Quote: Dr. Sorge
        And you would pour all the negativity around. Change the training manual.
        Life in people, not State Department instructions.
        :)

        Change the manual from the Belarusian Republican Youth Union yourself, nobody believes the bullshit about "truncated stable" for a long time.
        1. +3
          27 June 2016 16: 53
          I don’t use manuals, but apparently you are. And do not misinterpret and mix concepts. No one talks about poverty. Opps take advantage of the problems of our country, but they receive greens from the State Department.
          Or do you want a penny? :)
          In general, you are not talking about industry, but since you want everything positive in the negative, yes there is a problem.
          But there are new investment programs in industry. And this is not data from the BRYU. :)
          1. 0
            27 June 2016 17: 54
            Once such a booze has gone - cut the last cucumber.
            I mean, since the bulb for politics went to tryndet, then I will climb in with my dime.
            Yes, it’s hard to live in Belarus. And one of the main, if not the most important, role in this is played by the Popularly Selected Non-Declined Measurelessly Praised. At one time, when he received the most efficient economy in the post-Soviet space with the most powerful and latest industrial production in the post-Soviet space, he had the opportunity to build any dialogue that was interesting to the state. In business. With banks. With Russia. With Europe. Yes, to the detriment of the people, but I don’t even remember that the people would be fattening at that time ... Instead, his advisers canned everything, completely forgetting that in Belarus there are only salt and brains from resources. As a result, after 25 years in the country there is no industry, no economy, no business. The salt remained. And the role of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union in the form of the will of the leader.
            I am not opp, as you call them. I am a person who really appreciates the situation. And the realities are such that now there is NO ONE on the political Olympus who could replace the papucoli. There is no alternative. Cookies from nuland and others like them will not help this alternative appear. Maidan will not bring anything good, only ruin. And the task of the Belarusian people at the current stage is only one - to survive. Like in 41-44 years. Little girl. And there you look, zestachaysha will bore the Supreme, and a more sensible official will come from Moscow.
            It is a pity that Sannikov was eliminated, the only sensible comrade in the entire history of "independent" elections.
            1. +3
              27 June 2016 18: 07
              Well so our internal difficulties ... I want to say that our difficulties the State Department henchmen will not solve us. This is our land and we live on it.
              Sidorsky is a very intelligent economist. Now it seems in Russia ...
            2. +1
              27 June 2016 21: 13
              At one time, when he got into the hands of the most efficient economy in the post-Soviet space with the most powerful and newest industrial production in the post-Soviet space, he had the opportunity to build any dialogue that is interesting for the state. In business. With banks. With Russia. With Europe. Yes, to the detriment of the people, but I don’t even remember what the people would be eating at the time ... Instead, his advisers stopped everything, completely forgetting that Belarus only has salt and brains from its resources. As a result, after 25 years in the country there is no industry, no economy, no business. Salt remained. And the role of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union in the form of the will of the leader.


              Well, something like that - he wasted this time in vain ... So many opportunities were missed.
          2. +1
            27 June 2016 18: 47
            Quote: Dr. Sorge
            I don’t use manuals, but apparently you are.

            I do not use any manuals. I see where the country is heading
            Quote: Dr. Sorge
            No one talks about poverty. Opps take advantage of the problems of our country, but they receive greens from the State Department.

            And who creates problems in the country? State-owned enterprises who are falling apart? Opposition and Obama? Maybe stop blaming everything on the external enemy?
            Quote: Dr. Sorge
            In general, you are not talking about industry, but since you want everything positive in the negative, yes there is a problem.
            But there are new investment programs in industry. And this is not data from the BRYU. :)

            And from whom? BT, ONT, Belstat? Listen to our media - investors are right in line for us, but in reality, industry is bent.
  38. +2
    27 June 2016 12: 57
    There was Belarus in the days of the USSR, I liked it very much.
  39. +6
    27 June 2016 13: 50
    We drove with my family in a car from Gomel to Brest and back through Minsk to Smolensk. What I liked: cleanliness everywhere and in everything, excellent roads. At gas stations, they were calculated without any problems in Russian rubles. In all stores (even in regional centers) and hotels, it was without problems paid by Transcreditbank card. Belarusian cash came in handy only in a small market in Luninets. Local traffic cops, unlike our regions, were not seen at all during the trip.
  40. +7
    27 June 2016 13: 55
    Great article! Rarely on this forum is something positive about Belarus and Belarus from Russians you will hear))
    1. +13
      27 June 2016 15: 54
      In fact, in Russia the vast majority of people are not just good, but Belarusians and Belarusians very well !!! It is a fact. I personally do not know a single person with the opposite opinion. Several times I was in your country - a solid positive at the level of emotions! And when you see your numbers on your roads, you immediately want to help, suggest, and carry out. At the same time, it is clear that the situation where the Old Man is trying to flirt with the West cannot but like. We are simply afraid of losing you as close relatives, friends and closest allies. Such an example in Ukraine is too fresh and sad. But this certainly has nothing to do with the people of Belarus!
      1. +5
        27 June 2016 16: 56
        Thank you for your sincere words. For example, I accept criticism from people who worry about us. It is right. Inside our countries, we will figure it out ourselves.

        But the Opps who shout in the West about poverty and almost a global flood do not want us anything except the collapse.
      2. +1
        27 June 2016 17: 44
        The Belarusian numbers have already stopped paying attention. Their.
      3. +1
        27 June 2016 20: 06
        Old Man does not flirt with the West. This is apparent. This is necessary for Russia too. However RB this is Russia. No matter how the local heap of scoundrels-parasites, flaunting "mova", shrieked at such a statement. After all, "Mova" is their feeding tool. Isn't that "de-mating"? And don't tell me about your Belarusian patriotism. This "patriotism" of yours has a price in pounds, dollars, zlotys ...
    2. +4
      27 June 2016 20: 00
      Not true. There is negative about RB and father, but it is much less than reasonable and fair about this republic. And the negative is really poured here by those who in Belarus were driven away from the feeder or are not allowed to earn money by speculation, but are forced to work.
    3. +3
      27 June 2016 22: 15
      Well, why is it so gloomy "you rarely hear positive from the Russians ...", those who pour out negative often only "mow" like the Russians, and work for the State Department, work out the "green", although, perhaps, someone is free, anti-Belarusian some Russian media company is doing its job.
  41. +4
    27 June 2016 14: 09
    hmm, at the expense of roads drugan said they were driving a car with a run to Germany .. the border guard on the same question when Belarus starts said on the road immediately notice .. smile noticed what is already here
  42. +3
    27 June 2016 14: 30
    more to such informative and kind articles thanks to the author fellow
    1. +8
      27 June 2016 15: 12
      If interested, look for materials on the restoration of the castle 16-18 centuries. in the city of Nesvizh. Everything was restored without attracting European capital. Old Man refused to accept money from European sponsors, he did the right thing, they don’t owe anything to any English descendants.
      Restorers, stone carvers, ceramists, artists, restorers, architects are all their own. :)
      1. +2
        27 June 2016 17: 58
        And it turned out not a restoration, but a remake. Plastic windows in the castle of the 15th century. Yeah.
        There is no need to praise so much the "achievements" of our regulation. She's not the worst, that's right. But definitely not the best one.
        1. +5
          27 June 2016 22: 25
          And how do you want to do without the "decline", after 14 years it is in Russia too, so simply Western sanctions and the fall in oil and gas prices provoked by them could not pass for the Russian economy, and therefore for the economy of Belarus, because our economies are closely linked, so to hang all the dogs on the "dad" or stupidity, or malicious intent.
        2. +2
          29 June 2016 11: 09
          Do not write nonsense about plastic, if you do not know. There is no such thing there, these are familiar phrases from tutbaya .. And not the 15th century. You generally messed up everything.
          And the preservation of our tsorii is the merit of restoration specialists.
  43. +6
    27 June 2016 15: 45
    Thank you Roman for travel notes on Belarus, and about Belarus !!! Everything is right! Thank you for the accurate and objective comments YOU are brothers Russians !!! Sincerely.
  44. +8
    27 June 2016 15: 46
    The border with Belarus.
    1. +2
      27 June 2016 17: 55
      You can see by the trucks.
      As for the good and bad roads. So in Russia everything: from the East Cosmodrome to the Kremlin.
      Everything is good, but something is not good. The principle of life is as follows. Probably this principle is an adversary and ruin. He - ten comfortable "tigers", ours - a thousand clumsy "thirty-fours" ... Does it work? And so it will do!
      1. +5
        27 June 2016 18: 09
        The 34th ke soul! Therefore, let’s raise! And Tigers, swamps are afraid :) And partisans :)
  45. +5
    27 June 2016 16: 23
    I read, smiled. (kindly). What are the phrases:

    It would be easier to hang the sign "local apocalypse".

    Passing pedestrians is generally a nightmare. Pedestrians do not cross the road, they move. Especially where there is just a transition, without a traffic light. Absolutely not looking around. And the drivers are waiting.


    In general, after this article I don’t want to write about bad things. I didn’t know about gas, but there were suspicions, and it’s worth a trip to the Stalin line at least once.
  46. +5
    27 June 2016 17: 06
    I happened to live in the republics of Central Asia, and in Ukraine, and in the Far East, and in the North Caucasus, and in Belarus, and in Poland. Most of all I liked Belarus! The people are very simple, friendly. Without any nationalism. True, I do not like your Old Man with his duplicity.
    And many thanks for the article! Very true.
  47. +5
    27 June 2016 18: 20
    Zephyr "Red food worker" from the world capital of Bobruisk (earlier there lived those who left for the promised land :) you must definitely try :)
  48. +3
    27 June 2016 18: 47
    The article and the author are a plus.
    His, of course, business, but - politics for R. Skomorokhov - not a vocation.
    But for the people - yes.
    Good luck. smile
  49. +10
    27 June 2016 18: 53
    Quote: Lex.
    Let's not talk about politics "Something I don't remember, let's talk about politics. How many opposition sites living on the grandees of the West have all sorts of charters, here bye, headed by Zisser, a native of Lvov, it's time for Onliners to cover up these parasites, otherwise just not to work

    Dear, you correctly noticed that in white. In the Internet segment, there are a lot of op-popzionny sites, but the whole trick is that they are read only by those who write them, i.e. receiving rations and grants from the crappy "zaluzhy" and geyropa. It is not customary in Brest to even comment on these clowns. We know all of them.
    There are very significant problems, but where would you see a small town resident who would say that he is doing well?
    Well, according to Roman’s article, I’ll say that the current Brest, although clean, is not a match for Brest from 60-70. The city has grown about 45 times over 5 years. From 90 thousand to St. 450 thousand. And from the city of teachers, builders, military and pensioners became, like Minsk, a large village. It is regrettable, but there are a lot of cattle of various kinds, partly, apparently, the southern neighboring country helps.
  50. +10
    27 June 2016 19: 00
    Born and raised in Russia. Mom is Russian, Old Man is Belarusian. Who do I love more? I do not know. But both of me are dear to infinity, it is a pity that they are no longer with me. The principle in life is very simple: they speak poorly about Russians - I beat in the face without asking for nationality, I speak badly about Belarusians - I beat in the face without any questions. Father once and for all as a child taught: we are one people - we have nothing to share. With that in life I live and bequeath to my son.
  51. +4
    27 June 2016 19: 04
    Quote: japs
    Quote: Lex.
    Let's not talk about politics "Something I don't remember, let's talk about politics. How many opposition sites living on the grandees of the West have all sorts of charters, here bye, headed by Zisser, a native of Lvov, it's time for Onliners to cover up these parasites, otherwise just not to work

    Dear, you correctly noticed that in white. In the Internet segment, there are a lot of op-popzionny sites, but the whole trick is that they are read only by those who write them, i.e. receiving rations and grants from the crappy "zaluzhy" and geyropa. It is not customary in Brest to even comment on these clowns. We know all of them.
    There are very significant problems, but where would you see a small town resident who would say that he is doing well?
    Well, according to Roman’s article, I’ll say that the current Brest, although clean, is not a match for Brest from 60-70. The city has grown about 45 times over 5 years. From 90 thousand to St. 450 thousand. And from the city of teachers, builders, military and pensioners became, like Minsk, a large village. It is regrettable, but there are a lot of cattle of various kinds, partly, apparently, the southern neighboring country helps.

    There are a lot of Ukrainians who come to us for permanent residence, and remain so, with their own mentality)) Only their grandchildren, well, partly children, are assimilated)
  52. +3
    27 June 2016 19: 23
    life in a small police state" - "And that little bit of negativity that we had finally drowned..." Roman, I didn’t quite understand your calculations about the “police state”...
    1. 0
      27 June 2016 21: 51
      It was an unobtrusive compliment... lol
  53. +6
    27 June 2016 19: 56
    Thank you for the article - everything is written very positively! And for the name of the country, a separate plus.

    The only thing I wanted to write about was politics - here the author made the wrong conclusion, they don’t want to talk about it not out of fear (“small police state”), but because this topic is sad and is almost guaranteed to lead to disputes and litigation. And when you just want to talk and not spoil the mood, it’s easier to say “let’s not talk about politics” ;)
  54. +1
    27 June 2016 21: 07
    And when was it interesting that Roman drove through Belarus on a right-handed banzai? What could he see if he kept moving his head to the left in order to overtake the first series trade wind? As a motorist, I slightly disagree with my friend. Well, oh well, it’s forgivable for a rich Gilyak with a steering wheel from brotherly Japan.
  55. -1
    27 June 2016 21: 29
    You see, I will say this: I am generally against any everyday nationalism and I always try to treat everyone well, regardless of their passport. Everyday nationalism is stupid.

    The problem with Belarus is this: a categorically unacceptable model is being actively imposed on us interstate relations That is, Belarus uses all the benefits of being inside the Russian market of goods and cheap energy resources. BUT categorically does not want to lend a shoulder in difficult times.
    The Republic of Belarus is, as it were, united in two persons: “Russian-potato region” / “absolutely independent state.”
    You see infinitely such happiness cannot last. It has actually already ended.
    In this connection, “it’s so difficult to live in Belarus.”

    That is in interstate relations RB-RF has laid a large, non-recoverable mine.
    Belarusians are satisfied with the previous situation, Russians are absolutely not.

    And outside of politics, I communicate quite normally with Ukrainians. Politics is one thing, everyday life is something completely different.

    And the Germans are great guys too. Over a glass of beer. But this does not cancel 2 world wars with them. Just like two world wars do not negate a glass of beer... Different levels of being and there is no need to confuse them.
    1. +5
      28 June 2016 08: 54
      To be fair, it should be noted - what are you all about your Germans? They are still Nazis, they will not fail to tell you on the bus from the opposite corner that they are Russians or something similar. Just say it without reason or reason. Or rather, there is always a reason - we defeated them. :)
    2. +4
      28 June 2016 10: 42
      How bad everything is for you. Olezhek
  56. +3
    27 June 2016 22: 40
    An acquaintance of mine was recently in Belarus, shared his impressions, said approximately the same thing as in this article, I think that our Russian leadership would do well to adopt the experience of the “father” in some matters, given the blow dealt to the economic ties of industrial complexes of the republics of the USSR in the 90s, including the BR, as well as its lack of mineral resources, the situation in it is not as bad as some on this site want to assure us, it could have been much worse.
  57. +4
    28 June 2016 00: 43
    It's funny, the man had a rest, but people have politics
  58. +1
    28 June 2016 05: 52
    We have a Belarusian settlement in Siberia and they call themselves “Belarusians of Prybaikaalla”; I communicate with them at work. So these are our people. And how they sing...Pesnyary and Syabry are resting.
  59. +2
    28 June 2016 08: 42
    You need to understand that the Republic of Belarus is very small in area,
    is located in one climate zone, quite mild.
    That is, it is much easier to set up and manage such a country.
    Yes, and the composition is mostly mononational.
    So draw your own conclusions.
    Like the opposite - good old Germany, and what it turned into after the invasion of refugees.
  60. +4
    28 June 2016 09: 29
    In general, come and visit us. We will be happy to tell you a lot of interesting things, show you our ancient Orthodox churches and preserved castles. Braslav lakes are a miracle and beauty, just like Lake Naroch.
    The Belovezhskaya truth is not what it “used to be” for a long time, but there is Belarusian balsam, and there are a lot of tasty things :)
    Our history is one. The feuds of princes in the Middle Ages - so where there was no betrayal and apostasy, but we survived. Now it is very difficult to resist the Western machine of destruction of our countries, and who promised that it would be easy? :)
    We will win!
  61. +5
    28 June 2016 10: 38
    Belarus is a beautiful country, kind by nature and sympathetic people who respect themselves and their country,
    hospitable and cheerful. Here the author had problems with cash, I can say that if you have a VISA and MASTER card there are no problems, there are ATMs that operate 24 hours a day and on weekends. And the fine is not imposed in Euros, but in the Basic Value which is equal to 210 thousand .white rubles approximately 710 Russian rubles. Well, depending on what offense was committed. Do not violate.
    We'll be glad to come.
  62. +6
    28 June 2016 12: 32
    I was also born and raised in Russia, but by chance, after serving in the SA, I remained in Belarus. Well, regarding moonshine, the guys definitely noticed that no one makes less than 60 degrees for themselves. My brother is coming, he’s taking two three-liter bottles home. Let’s drink to the friendship between our peoples drinks
  63. 0
    28 June 2016 12: 35
    I was on a business trip in Minsk three years ago. In winter. Purely. All factories and institutions are working. It looks very similar to the USSR - i.e. the design of the buildings is like in the 80s, but the facades have been repaired, cleaned, painted and everything works. Factories are working. A lot of things have already been demolished, and what was not demolished was remade in a modern way - glass and plastic. Only banks and casinos are a bit of an eyesore. And so everything is like with us. The prices are fabulous - judging by shops and taxis. Well, vodka is excellent.
  64. +2
    28 June 2016 12: 46
    Definite respect to the author of the article. When slight irony highlights certain shortcomings, it means there is something to work on.
    For my part, I would like to share the impressions of my colleagues from Canada who came on business in May. Moreover, one of them is our former, but emigrated 20 years ago from Tashkent, and the second has never been to the post-Soviet space. An interesting story was told - the wives were not allowed to go on a trip until everyone had insured themselves for a decent amount. wassat , because We have “a complete dictatorship like North Korea and machine gunners with dogs on every corner” - this is how the Western media present us.
    The guys lived in the center of the city and I decided to arrange a little “AWOL” for myself: on the May (9th) holidays I went to the village (to plant potatoes), and “threw them” to their fate crying - here, I say, go out onto Independence Avenue and go to Victory Square, see how this holiday is going on here. Then drop by Gorky Park and there should be field kitchens there - they will feed you porridge. And at the same time, count how many machine gunners with dogs will be on the streets.
    I'm coming back... there is no limit to my delight!!! good But the most important thing I heard a little later... they say you have no idea what country you live in!!! Both-on, I thought and became wary recourse The decoding happened instantly - you, they say, live in practically the only country where the white race of people has survived, namely the WHITE... All of Europe today is gray-brown-crimson from the dominance of emigrants and guest workers, Not to mention Canada and the USA, and you, They say you just don’t understand all the advantages of what you have. Well, I say, guys, you shouldn’t confuse a tourist trip with emigration, not everything is so great here, the cost of living is rising, and salaries leave much to be desired. So they answer that they understand that there are certain problems that, if desired, can be solved, but if you lose what you have, it will be much more difficult, if not impossible, to make up for it. There's a lot to think about here what . And this was an outside view from people who came to Belarus for the first time.
    The result of their trip exceeded all expectations, but that's a completely different story.
    Yesterday I received information that the second (non-Russian speaking) partner is walking around and whining that he really wants to return to Belarus. As the saying goes - love Welcome
  65. +1
    28 June 2016 21: 45
    I read it and was surprised... For the first time on the site I read an article in which the author showed ordinary Belarusians and their attitude towards people, and did not quote the authorities and, in their person, scold all Belarusians, call them suckers to Russia and accuse them of duplicity.
    PS Thank you!!! Although this is the first time I’ve heard from you that the residents of Brest use the word “Tank”
    1. +2
      29 June 2016 11: 29
      Tank is that, I read the instructions, and they thought of writing it in the parking lot on a three-sided sign only in Belarusian... There is an instruction to “spam” for the Android application. In principle, the root of the word comes from pump, which means pump. The instructions themselves and in Russian you won’t be able to figure out how to pay :) In short, there are a lot of jokes.
  66. +1
    28 June 2016 23: 01
    A normal article, there are certain, easily explained, rough edges and inaccuracies, but it’s all true.
  67. +2
    29 June 2016 11: 26
    There will be a military parade on July 3rd! Liberation Day of Belarus.
    If any of the site visitors are in Minsk, be sure to visit!!!
  68. +3
    29 June 2016 12: 21
    The photo is not mine, but a very interesting social advertisement.
  69. 0
    29 June 2016 12: 25
    Thank you, I was going there in my car, but now I won’t go. It’s good that you warned me.
    1. +2
      29 June 2016 13: 21
      What scared you so much? We don't bite.
    2. +2
      29 June 2016 13: 39
      A strange conclusion from the article.. :) We have Russian license plates all around the city, everyone comes...
      If you are talking about partisans, then others should be scared. They are trampling around our western borders :)
      And gas - yes, ours drive on gas.
      1. 0
        29 June 2016 17: 38
        As it is written - there are a lot of signs, they just confuse, you won’t understand and the fines are hefty.
  70. 0
    29 June 2016 14: 53
    Thank you for the article and thank you to the Russians for supporting us for so many years, if it weren’t for your finances, gas and oil, we would have had confusion and vacillation, probably not on the same scale as in Ukraine, our mentality is not the same as our neighbors, but there would be grief with all sorts of “oppositionists”, this is a fact. As for cleanliness and order, cleaning a small room is faster and easier than a private three-story house. A friend traveled to Crimea last summer, detouring Ukraine, through the Rostov region on a bike, 2500 km one way, and he says that the roads between the cities are even better than ours. As for the economy, it is almost 100% tied to Russia, sanctions have been imposed against you, and everything is covered with a copper basin, most enterprises work less than a full week, I force workers to go on vacation at their own expense, for 1-2 days a week, layoffs and so on. In addition to all this, no one wants to invest money in the economy of the Republic of Belarus, because... it’s easy that what was yours will become state-owned, simple examples are the factories “Spartak” and “Kommunarka”. The Chinese invest a little, but they are cunning, they organize a train with workers directly from China to finance, a simple example is a plant for the production of bleached cellulose in Svetlogorsk. The local population has a negative attitude towards them, primarily because of their arrogance. In general, not everything here is as rosy as it seems from the outside.
    1. 0
      29 June 2016 19: 03
      I even shed tears, so amigo 481, I felt sorry - “everything is covered with a copper basin”, and “nobody wants to invest money in the economy of the Republic of Belarus”, and “the Chinese, but they are cunning and arrogant”, and “we don’t have everything so rosy”... And where should you, amigo 481, orphan and unfortunate, go, maybe to Geyropa?
  71. +1
    29 June 2016 15: 14
    Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
    It’s just that people have not forgotten how to work, or have not yet forgotten how to ...

    In Russia, people work just as well, but there is more choice and more pay.
  72. 0
    30 June 2016 05: 05
    Quote: artgrad
    "Without distortions" - well, well. Why has Europe not pleased you? Before insulting people who want a better life for themselves and their families, maybe I would have gone a little further away from my "village" and looked at how people live in Poland at least! Obviously a typical parasite state idler - "Somehow comrades with computers and radars became and checked that out of 2000 traffic cars during daylight hours, 600 speed violations" - this is how much time you need to kill if it is not a direct responsibility ...

    PS / For example, I think it’s stupid for us to desire "either tuda or syudy" given what we have done with Ukraine .... I prefer the model of Finland for my country, which works, trades and is friends with all neighbors from 4 sides.


    I agree on everything. That review was clearly written by an ideologist, and the article as a whole is, how to say... so as not to particularly criticize Luka and his regime.
  73. 0
    30 June 2016 20: 56
    There are no Gasters - it’s already paradise. Samara has already turned into a traveling branch of all sorts of camps

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