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Counter-sanction


When preparing analytical materials, I always find great interest in analyzing the results historical events and their projection onto modern geopolitical processes, for, as Cervantes said: "History is a treasure house of our deeds, a witness of the past, an example and a lesson for the present, a warning for the future."

In the course of the continuous process of imposing Western sanctions on Russia over the last couple of years, it would be nice to recall the establishment of various sanctions in the world on a visible historical horizon and, on this basis, to identify patterns and consequences.

When economic pressure on enemies was first applied, we do not know, but this is definitely not the idea of ​​yesterday’s day. However, it is reliably known that in 432 BC, on the eve of the Peloponessian war between ancient Greek Athens and Sparta, the city of Megara offered political asylum to fugitive Athenian slaves, which naturally curtailed the authority of the king of the Athenians Pericles, which is why he forbade Megara merchants to trade in the jurisdiction of the Athens Maritime Union, which includes half of ancient Greece. After some time, trade sanctions affected both the small megarian economy and the large Athenian economy. Following these events, the head of the formidable Sparta Corinth decided to stand up for the Meghars in order to demonstrate the bipolarity of the ancient Greek civilization in establishing the rules of the political game, which led to the great Peloponnesian war that lasted about 30 years, and the victory in which was won by the defendant account of well-organized military power. This example for the first time clearly clarified the main point: sanctions are effective only when they are applied to a state that can be defeated on the battlefield.

Now I propose to go back to the 20th century, when the United States of America, having forgotten this principle, decided to test the strength of the Soviet ideology and the Russian spirit. After the Great October Socialist Revolution, especially after the consolidation of Comrade Stalin’s power in 1924, Soviet Russia needed a huge amount of equipment and technology to create the means of production and building socialism in order to reduce its dependence on the export of raw materials. To prevent the Great Leader’s plan in 1925, Western countries, led by the United States, made a seemingly totally irrational decision not to take gold from us as payment for the technologies, machines and equipment we needed. Only oil, timber and grain were recognized as means of payment, and by the year 1930 only grain was accepted. Continuing the chronology, in the '32 year, the States impose a total ban on the import of goods from the USSR, but already in 1934, the West again began to accept our gold in the calculations. How so? What was behind the series of these unexplainable requirements and conditions? What was the meaning of such sanctions against us? After all, design without intent is fiction.

So, let me remind you that in the 1929 year in Russia, not only did the civil war actually end, and the political feuds stopped, but the first five-year plan began. For the time being, the West is preparing economically, without military intervention, to strangle Soviet Russia. The first step towards this was taken in advance - a refusal to accept gold from the USSR, which forced Russia to extreme economic vulnerability when supplying its raw materials (oil, wood and especially grain) abroad, which was now the only source of foreign exchange in the country. Then, after the expulsion of Trotsky from the USSR, we are dealt another blow: an embargo is imposed on the purchase of Soviet goods by the West — in fact, the import of our timber and oil products, that is, everything that is paid for deliveries of western machines and machines for the destroyed Soviet economy, stops. We look at the dates: the first five-year plan begins in '29. In a strange way, over the next three years, all future “allies” in the fight against Hitler introduced the embargo. But it remains interesting that, at first, the West refused to accept our gold as payment, and then everything else that was so necessary for them ... except for grain!

This behavior is clearly illogical. At that time, the Great Depression was raging there (it began just in 1929 year). In the US, overproduction of various products, including grain. The US government destroys its wheat in huge batches, condemning its own people to hunger in order to increase demand and, accordingly, prices, and immediately intends to take from Russia only grain as payment for its machines instead of gold, oil and other much more needed US raw materials. Englishmen behave even more stupidly: while the USSR was the main customer of English machine tool builders - in 1932, 80% of the export of machines from England went to the Soviet Union - the British leadership did everything to make these deliveries impossible, refusing to accept payments for machines only gold, but also England's necessary timber, ore, coal and oil. Everything except the grain, which the British could buy from the States much cheaper. But such a policy was pursued only to ensure that the Bolsheviks took the grain from the peasants, initiating mass hunger, which, in turn, could lead to an internal explosion and a shift of power. Thus, the leadership of the USSR was faced with a choice: either to abandon the restoration of industry (capitulation to the West), or to continue industrialization, leading to a terrible internal crisis. Whatever Stalin chooses - in any case, the West remains the winner. In chess, this is called zugzwang.

However, Joseph Vissarionovich and his entourage decide to go right through. From the summer of 1929, the collectivization of agriculture begins. The state collects grain and sends it to the West, but not at all in order to starve a part of the country's population, but because there is no other option to pay for supplies of equipment other than the organization of joint farming in the village. All the hope of Stalin was a new crop, which is too small due to the succession of droughts. The USSR cannot buy food either for gold (the golden blockade) or for the currency (an embargo of our goods). Attempts are being made to urgently bring grain from Persia, where they are willing to accept gold, but the authorities do not have time, and a catastrophe happens, the same one that in Ukraine is now called the “Famine”. However, the hunger of 1932 – 33, which was carefully organized by the West, did not give the desired result, since the Bolsheviks retained power and continued industrialization. During these years, a lot of people died, but Stalin managed to consolidate his position in the country's leadership, after which the West was again ready to take oil, timber and precious metals from Russia. Naturally, in 1934, grain exports from the USSR completely stopped. The economic measures under the all-European weakness did not work, and only the military remained, so it is not surprising that Adolf Hitler came to power in 1933 in Germany, openly writing about his aggressive goals in the boundless Russian plains.

From these historical data, it becomes obvious that the famine in 30-ies was provoked by the West in order to overthrow the existing power in the USSR. They managed to kill millions of people, but not to overthrow the steel Stalin. For this, Hitler had to be raised to try to crush the Russians with the hands of the Germans. But, having filled the edge of the edge, the States imposed very effective sanctions against small Japan, depriving it of American oil. This was done in order to find a reason to join the war and finally include Japan in its zone of influence. To this end, the attack on Pearl Harbor 7 December 1941 of the year was provoked. Here everything was done correctly: Japan did not have sufficient resources to wage any lengthy war. At one of the meetings of the military and government leaders of Japan, Colonel Ivakuro gave the following comparative data on available resources from the United States and Japan. Steel - 20: 1, oil - 100: 1, coal - 10: 1, aircraft - 5: 1, warships - 2: 1, labor - 5: 1. The overall ratio of the potential of the United States and Japan - 10: 1.

After Germany occupied France, Japan used the entire military infrastructure in French colonial Indochina. In response, the US imposed partial sanctions against Japan, freezing accounts and assets, and for importing each batch of goods, including petroleum products from the United States, Japan was obliged to obtain a separate license, which was extremely problematic. Since the Land of the Rising Sun was almost completely dependent on oil imports from the United States and Russia, it was inconvenient, unprofitable and humiliating for it, especially given the militaristic ambitions in the Pacific Ocean. However, Roosevelt did not want a total ban on trade with Japan, so that "the stigma remained in the gun." Nevertheless, the Americans succeeded in supervising the ambitions of the Japanese and provoking aggression against themselves through the issuance of licenses. In the summer of 1941, the Japanese oil reserves were reduced by 28 000 tons every day. According to Admiral Nagano, "the fleet burns 400 tons of oil per hour." Therefore, the goal of the Japanese command was extremely obvious: the early seizure of oil resources of the Dutch East Indies (Indonesia), as well as other mineral resources of Malaysia and the Philippines. And for this it was necessary to neutralize ... US Pacific Fleet! To this sacrifice of Japan, Adolf Aloizovich was kindly short-sighted, because the consequences of the attack on Pearl Harbor are well known to all: Japan’s military benefits were insignificant compared to the benefits to the United States from their entry into the war.

If we draw some historical parallels, a number of interesting features emerge. The first. Japan after the American sanctions gained self-confidence, letting itself provoke and organizing Pearl Harbor, of which Roosevelt naturally knew in advance, since the attack was good for America. Japan was framed and driven into a corner, as a result of which it became an American military and economic experimental rat, which is still, despite its mental political encryption. In the situation with the Land of the Rising Sun, the United States did everything clearly, according to the theory of imposing sanctions.

The second. Soviet Union. Borrowing foreign experience, raising the national spirit, implementing the idea of ​​universal social justice, and, most importantly, maximizing the realization of one’s own industrial potential — all this made it possible to defend one’s honor and protect the Russian civilization model, even despite the famine provoked by the outside. The union was great and impenetrable because it was based on ideological infrastructural power.

Third. Ancient Greece. Yes, the Peloponnesian War ended in 30 years with the victory of Sparta, but a well-organized and disciplined military and social structure decayed a few decades later, absorbing the Athenian democratic parasitic way of life. The Spartans could not resist the luxury and free-thinking, giving themselves to the subsequent beating of Macedonia and Persia.

The fact is that all the cases described in world history were based on contradictions of hegemony, which were always built on a real basis, and not on the sale of raw materials. Accordingly, all enemies can be repulsed only by a real product that was created by the population of the national education itself - be it weapon, machine tools or cattle. However, the main condition for this is a high degree of commitment of national elites to that goal, which reflects the subjective true path of the state in a certain historical period of its development. Let us call this an ideology that, in the opinion of any other people, may be erroneous, but the desire for its purification, preservation and security forms the impenetrable national spirit. At the same time, a pure state ideology can be based solely on the desire for independence and independence from other states in all senses, and various sanctions like the current ones in a “healthy” state just play a positive role.

Unfortunately, import substitution in today's Russia occurs only on our television screens. The country's leadership is spending huge amounts on a PR campaign for building new facilities and launching production, instead of building at least one necessary factory for everyone to make any progressive change in exchange for the Chinese. I'm not talking about medical equipment and cars. We are told that abruptly the “ultra-modern” T-50 aircraft and the T-90 tank appeared, but at the same time, the people for some reason fly only on Boeing and Airbus. "Carcass", "Yaki" and "Ana" somehow gradually disappeared into oblivion.

I agree that Tanks and fighters, of course, will be useful to us in everyday life, simplify our lives, or at least help to gain protection from the visible enemy, but they certainly will not help in gaining independence from the invisible enemy, which still regulates the output of Russian rubles. The main thing is not to burst like the USSR, focusing only on the military industry. And I can’t but doubt the novelty of the technologies, knowing that according to the old drawings we couldn’t re-master the production of the An-124 Ruslan. And about the ekranoplans and even more so no one remembers, despite the fact that the military and civilian advantages of this technique remain indisputable.

Structural projects and systemic changes aimed at our well-being, economic independence and the prosperity of Russian civilization are needed. Anatoly Wasserman in his book “Acute Strategic Failure” very time gives examples of Stalin's projects to change the flow of rivers, the construction of forest belts, the massive opening of various research institutes and the construction of nuclear power plants. Of course, there are “strategists” who will not agree with this, while remaining true to the word “Fatherland”. For the sake of such stupid patriots of Russia who focus only on our weapons and geographic power, I recognize that only the Siberian Federal District in 5,2 million km2 and C-400 can be made to choke the entire European Union with an area of ​​only 4,3 million km2. Well, then what? Are we becoming stronger, richer, happier?

While in Russia economic growth and the fight against corruption remain only a television screen, behind which the orgy of the traitors of Russian civilization continues on the bones of our ancestors, there can be no talk of happiness or universal well-being. Without our patriots knowing the basics of political economy, without focusing on applied science and culture, without understanding their exemplary structure and the goals of supranational financial structures, it will always remain a mystery to why the opinion of such tiny countries like Luxembourg, Liechtenstein or Vatican, and how to deal with it.

God forbid Russia to face the same sanctions as the USSR — in the almost complete absence of production of means of production, that is, machine tools, and in the absence of an understanding of the need to establish such production, possible Western sanctions to restrict the supply of not only drilling and defense, but all high-tech Industrial equipment can be overwhelming. The same applies to the one-sided development of agriculture in Russia on the western technological base, so we eat "excellent Russian cheese made on Italian equipment." Stalin felt such a threat on himself, and therefore he climbed out of his skin, seeking technological independence, because the machine can make both an airplane, and sausage, and a pram.

We must remember one thing: until we finally destroy our industrial potential, we will suck oil. And during this process, if we, the Russian People, do not change or change anything, we will weaken so much that we will not be able to protect ourselves, after which we will be split, divided, enslaved and reduced in number. It was precisely this that Hitler behind the scenes was trying to achieve, and that’s what the whole world’s own, as well as our own elite, that fifth column, is now thirsting for.
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  1. Joe stalin
    Joe stalin 28 June 2016 12: 34
    +24
    restoration of the BRANCH structure of the Council of Ministers of the Russian Federation and 5-year development plans are needed:
    Council of Ministers of the USSR 1979:

    USSR Ministry of Aviation Industry
    USSR Ministry of Automotive Industry
    USSR Ministry of Foreign Trade
    USSR Ministry of Gas Industry
    USSR Ministry of Civil Aviation
    USSR Ministry of Engineering
    USSR Ministry of Engineering for Livestock and Feed Production
    Ministry of engineering for the light and food industries and household appliances of the USSR
    USSR Ministry of Medical Industry
    Ministry of the Navy of the USSR
    USSR Ministry of Oil Industry
    USSR Ministry of Defense Industry
    USSR Ministry of Defense
    USSR Ministry of General Engineering
    Ministry of Instrument-Making, Automation Means and Control Systems of the USSR
    USSR Ministry of Communications Industry
    USSR Ministry of Railways
    USSR Ministry of Radio Industry
    Ministry of secondary engineering of the USSR
    USSR Ministry of Machine Tool and Tool Industry
    Ministry of construction, road and municipal engineering of the USSR
    USSR Ministry of Construction of the Oil and Gas Industry
    USSR Ministry of Shipbuilding Industry
    USSR Ministry of Tractor and Agricultural Engineering
    Ministry of Transport Construction of the USSR
    USSR Ministry of Heavy and Transport Engineering
    USSR Ministry of Chemical and Petroleum Engineering
    USSR Ministry of Chemical Industry
    USSR Ministry of Pulp and Paper Industry
    USSR Ministry of Electronic Industry
    USSR Ministry of Electrical Engineering
    USSR Ministry of Power Engineering
    USSR Ministry of the Interior
    USSR Ministry of Higher and Secondary Special Education
    USSR Ministry of Geology
    USSR Ministry of Procurement
    USSR Ministry of Health
    USSR Ministry of Foreign Affairs
    Ministry of Culture of the USSR
    USSR Ministry of Light Industry
    USSR Ministry of Forestry and Woodworking Industry
    USSR Ministry of Land Reclamation and Water Management
    Ministry of installation and special construction works of the USSR
    Ministry of meat and dairy industry of the USSR
    USSR Ministry of Oil Refining and Petrochemical Industry
    USSR Ministry of Food Industry
    USSR Ministry of Industrial Construction
    Ministry of building materials industry of the USSR
    USSR Ministry of Education
    USSR Ministry of Fisheries
    USSR Ministry of Communications
    USSR Ministry of Rural Construction
    USSR Ministry of Agriculture
    USSR Ministry of Construction
    USSR Ministry of Construction of Heavy Industry Enterprises
    USSR Ministry of Trade
    USSR Ministry of Coal Industry
    USSR Ministry of Finance
    USSR Ministry of Non-Ferrous Metallurgy
    USSR Ministry of Ferrous Metallurgy
    USSR Ministry of Energy and Electrification
    USSR Ministry of Justice
    1. Temples
      Temples 28 June 2016 12: 48
      +25
      We look at the dates: the first five-year plan begins in '29.

      The First Five-Year Plan - 28-32

      Naturally, in 1934, grain exports from the USSR completely stopped.

      grain export
      1930 - 4,76 million tons
      1931 - 5,06 million tons
      1932 - 1,73 million tons
      1933 - 1,68 million tons
      1934 - 769 thousand tons
      1935 - 1,52 million tons
      1936 - 321 thousand tons
      1937 - 1,28 million tons
      1938 - 2,05 million tons
      1939 - 277 thousand tons


      Apparently he wrote on the principle that no one knows what the hell.

      However, it is reliably known that in 432 BC, on the eve of the Peloponnesian war ...


      Why did not the source of this "reliable" knowledge indicate?

      blah blah blah....

      The only thing missing is completion:
      Vote for ....... !!!!

      Sorted everything that is possible and impossible.

      One benefit - an article can be an incentive to get acquainted with the events of the first five-year plans.
      It was hard ....
      1. Nikolay K
        Nikolay K 28 June 2016 14: 02
        -9
        The author writes outright nonsense. The greedy capitalist ministers are competing with each other who will sell machine tools and other industrial equipment to Soviet Russia in order to destroy the grain received in exchange. And all this to annoy the Soviet state and cause hunger.
        And the US government in general is so cruel, I would even say stupid that during a depression and mass unemployment it destroys grain in order to raise prices for it, not at all afraid of popular unrest and revolution.
        But the author’s most important conclusion is that grain was exported to the USSR during the famine not of his own free will, it was the evil capitalists who FORCED us. And so our government was very clear and kind, and Lenin loved children. wink
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 28 June 2016 14: 49
          +13
          The more everything and everything will be privatized in our country, the faster the West will triumph over Russia. However, precisely for this - for privatization, i.e. for the transfer of the leading sectors of the economy to private, and in fact, to foreign hands, the government of D.A. Medvedev. The macroeconomic reforms that have been ongoing in our country since the time of Gorbachev and with the advent of the EBN undermine the Russian economy from the inside.
          In this regard, it suffices to recall the historical experience of Russia in the WWII, which Russia lost namely.
          Thanks to Western intelligence services, the Republic of Ingushetia was not only drawn into the WWI, but then the monarchy was “overthrown” in the country, the February and October revolutions were committed, and then a civil war broke out in the country. As a result, direct agents of Great Britain and the USA came to power in RI, in particular A.F. Kerensky. The main task of the corrupt Provisional Government there was the destruction of the Russian Armed Forces and the creation of political and economic chaos in the country with the dismantling of Russian statehood in general, as such.
          Noteworthy during the work of the Provisional Government was, in particular, the situation of the defense industry with constant demands of the workers to improve their lives during the WWII, to expel industrial factory specialists in the field and replace them with "fucked up" labor councils under the leadership of various kinds of revolutionary Social Democrats bought by the West who flooded Russia from abroad and were released from prison. The complaints of the owners of these very - mostly private - defense plants against Kerensky were that the laws of the corrupt Provisional Government provoke revolutionary workers to sabotage and lead not only themselves, as the owners of these enterprises, to ruin, but also make unthinkable the possibilities of production! But the Provisional Government played tricks with the West on the issue of losing Russia in WWII and transferring Russia to foreign external control.
          As a result, private defense plants went bankrupt and were stopped. Thus, the private defense industry in Russia during the reign of the Provisional Government and the work of the British agent A.F. Kerensky, in fact, was taken out of circulation. After that, the question arose about the nationalization of private enterprises in the country.
          And where does the government of D.A. Medvedev with frequent continued privatization of strategic state-owned enterprises? Who does such a government serve with its privatization proposals?
          Moreover, for the country's defense capability, the “defense industry" alone is not enough! The population needs to eat, dress, study, work, give birth and raise children, etc. This also falls within the scope of the concept of a sovereign national security strategy! I tried to show this on the example of the behavior of workers of defense plants during the WWII. An expanded understanding of the well-being of all sectors of society and social infrastructure is part of the country's defense. The efforts to strengthen the country's defense capability must be truly comprehensive and the role of improving the quality of governance of the national state only grows, and is not dumped into private hands, as the government of DAM thinks!
          1. Sergey39
            Sergey39 28 June 2016 15: 14
            0
            Yes, they will replace DAM after the election.
            1. Joe stalin
              Joe stalin 28 June 2016 15: 22
              +4
              Yeah. To Kudrin
              1. bovig
                bovig 28 June 2016 17: 35
                +3
                Quote: Sergey39
                Yes, they will replace DAM after the election.

                Quote: Joe Stalin
                Yeah. To Kudrin

                To some extent, this depends on you and me. This does not happen often, namely during elections. We will choose United Russia, or let them choose themselves - we will be both Kudrin, and DAM, and all those that are now in a double set ...
          2. russkiy redut
            russkiy redut 28 June 2016 15: 56
            0
            Dmitry Medvedev real name David Mendel!
            1. Bayonet
              Bayonet 28 June 2016 19: 38
              +3
              Quote: russkiy redut
              Dmitry Medvedev real name David Mendel!

              The author is burning !!! wassat
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 28 June 2016 21: 20
                -2
                Bayonet
                Quote: russkiy redut
                Dmitry Medvedev real name David Mendel!
                The author is burning !!! wassat
                Alexander! Didn’t you know about this? Medvedev did not hide this.

                See "Medvedev admitted that he is a Jew." Upload date: May 14 2011

                See "D. Medvedev Jew (from his family tree)." Posted: 14 Jan 2013

                See "Zyuganov about the Jews." Posted on: 13 Dec 2012

                Who rules the world, Jews or Anglo-Saxons - Nikolai Starikov sio..nist? Posted: 11 Sep 2014
          3. vmo
            vmo 28 June 2016 17: 58
            +2
            The more everything and everything will be privatized in our country, the faster the West will triumph over Russia. However, precisely for this - for privatization, i.e. for the transfer of the leading branches of the economy to private, and in fact, to foreign hands, - and the government stands Medvedev.

            You can’t say more precisely !!!!!
            1. Joe stalin
              Joe stalin 30 June 2016 10: 07
              0
              take it higher - GDP itself, because without it a fly will not fly
          4. Nikolay K
            Nikolay K 28 June 2016 22: 19
            +1
            The more everything and everything will be privatized in our country, the faster the West will triumph over Russia.

            The more people in Russia who believe in different conspiracy theories and other fools who are used to blaming someone else for all their troubles rather than thinking with their own heads, the more likely it is that common sense will prevail in the country, but someone else .
            1. Bayonet
              Bayonet 29 June 2016 05: 14
              -2
              Quote: Nikolai K
              The more people in Russia who believe in different conspiracy theories and other fools who are used to blaming someone else for all their troubles rather than thinking with their own heads, the more likely it is that common sense will prevail in the country, but someone else .

              You can’t say more precisely !!!!! hi
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    2. Riv
      Riv 28 June 2016 12: 59
      +4
      In a market economy and in the absence of state control? Unreal.
      1. Joe stalin
        Joe stalin 28 June 2016 13: 14
        +1
        But how is it done in China?
    3. Joe stalin
      Joe stalin 28 June 2016 13: 13
      +11
      The state should not "create conditions" ("what do you want?" For business), as V. Putin put it, but actively LEAD the economy and DIRECT its development in the right direction - as the PRC does!
      1. iConst
        iConst 28 June 2016 13: 46
        +2
        Quote: Joe Stalin
        The state should not "create conditions" ("what do you want?" For business), as V. Putin put it, but actively LEAD the economy and DIRECT its development in the right direction - as the PRC does!

        Do you even understand what you said? smile

        In my opinion, something like: "The nail must not be hammered, but driven in ..."

        How do you think they are guided and directed in China - a member of the Politburo comes to the enterprise and says: "microcircuits need to be made such and such"?
        smile
        1. Joe stalin
          Joe stalin 28 June 2016 14: 33
          +3
          today in the Russian Federation is passive management of the economy - the Ministry of Economic Development of the Russian Federation is only engaged in "creating favorable conditions for investment": it conducts endless round tables, presentations, forums.
          And it should - make up 5 - year plans for the development of sectors of the public sector (state enterprises) and monitor their implementation!
          That is, do not chatter, but build factories
        2. Joe stalin
          Joe stalin 28 June 2016 14: 35
          0
          In China, state corporations (the public sector) make up 80% of the entire economy of the PRC and fulfill the 5-year plans for economic development adopted by the Plenum of the CPC, while in the Russian Federation there are no plans, "state programs" are not really controlled or implemented by anyone.
          1. iConst
            iConst 28 June 2016 18: 00
            +6
            Quote: Joe Stalin
            In China, state-owned corporations (public sector) account for 80% of the entire economy of the PRC.

            - The source is in the studio!
            -------
            The public sector in industry still accounts for approximately 30% of GDP.
            http://www.ereport.ru/articles/weconomy/china2.htm


            If in 2000 the private sector produced about 55% of GDP, then by 2005 this share had grown to 65% [18].
            ...
            The volume of tax payments to the public sector in 2007 amounted to 1,77 trillion. RMB - 34,5% of total financial income.
            http://bankir.ru/publikacii/20090417/kitai-sekreti-voshodyaschego-mirovogo-lider
            a-okonchanie-2034912 /


            In the Chinese economy, the private sector is showing high growth rates. The public sector in the year (1978), when Deng Xiaoping began the Chinese economic reforms, accounted for 78% of the gross domestic product (GDP), the non-state sector - 22%. By 2008, the opposite picture was already observed: non-state enterprises produced 72% of GDP, and state-owned enterprises - 28% [12].
            http://thewallmagazine.ru/economy-in-china/


            Maybe enough tales to tell?
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 28 June 2016 20: 05
              +4
              Quote: iConst
              Quote: Joe Stalin
              In China, state-owned corporations (public sector) account for 80% of the entire economy of the PRC.

              - The source is in the studio!

              Yes yap this Joe. Corn .. what are you arguing with him something? request
        3. unsinkable
          unsinkable 28 June 2016 21: 10
          +1
          Quote: iConst
          a member of the Politburo arrives and says: "microcircuits need to be made such and such and such"?

          Yes, it was with us too. Like this: * The party teaches us that gases expand when heated *.
    4. Dimontius
      Dimontius 28 June 2016 13: 19
      +3
      The main thing is that then you would not have to create a department for managing all departments. stop Today, bureaucracy and corruption are strong, therefore ministries cannot be stamped; on the contrary, barriers to the development of industries should be eased, and control should not be tightened. And there is nothing to increase the state employees, they are already full.
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 28 June 2016 13: 40
        +2
        Quote: Dimontius
        The main thing is that then you would not have to create a department for managing all departments. stop Today, bureaucracy and corruption are strong, therefore ministries cannot be stamped; on the contrary, barriers to the development of industries should be eased, and control should not be tightened. And there is nothing to increase the state employees, they are already full.


        Well why. Loafers bureaucrats will be happy.

        Remember the hero Kalyagin in "Running in Place" -
        - on the principle of "bushes". We create a subordinate department, another, another, then the departments create their own bushes, etc., we increase the staff, the responsibility is transferred down

        Joe Stalin,
        Strongly you (red) have intensified the last 2 years, suspiciously.
        For whom you work, balamutite people and society split.
        What do you want? Another civil war?

        Not liberals are our enemies, they are like a smokescreen.
        The Communist Party is stirring up water, people are confusing.
        Are you getting ready for the 17th year again?

        - Enough propaganda of the CPSU and the dictatorship of the proletariat is enough to carry out here, said and shut up aside

        You will not have a future in Russia, you have one goal - to cause a new split in society

        1. Joe stalin
          Joe stalin 28 June 2016 21: 57
          -4
          bet that next year will be a remake of the Great October Revolution?

          after Putin invited Kudrin and Chubais to write him an economic program with us communists ohe .... the future!

          the battle continues again.
          And the heart is anxious in the chest.
          And Stalin is so young!
          And young October is ahead!
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          2. bulvas
            bulvas 29 June 2016 02: 27
            +1
            Quote: Joe Stalin
            bet that next year will be a remake of the Great October Revolution?

            after Putin invited Kudrin and Chubais to write him an economic program with us communists ohe .... the future!

            the battle continues again.
            And the heart is anxious in the chest.
            And Stalin is so young!
            And young October is ahead!



            Let’s, after that, you will definitely be banned if anyone remains after the suppression of the riot

            1. Bayonet
              Bayonet 29 June 2016 05: 19
              0
              Quote: bulvas
              Let’s say after that you’ll be definitely banned,

              For myself, I already banned this patient - to the black list! negative
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              2. bulvas
                bulvas 29 June 2016 11: 29
                0
                Quote: Bayonet
                For myself, I already banned this patient - to the black list!


                This joe is kidding, I do not believe that there are still people who can write and read, with such nonsense in my head

                But he brought to some thoughts - who we have is the real 5th column, and not the one for the talk show

            2. Joe stalin
              Joe stalin 30 June 2016 10: 08
              0
              But will anyone forbid it? Maybe it will be like in Kyrgyzstan?
          3. Cat man null
            Cat man null 29 June 2016 03: 54
            +1
            Quote: Joe Stalin
            after Putin invited Kudrin and Chubais to write him an economic program

            - Well, Kudrina - well, they heard. And by the way, not only Kudrin
            - but so that Chubais wrote an economic program? belay

            Or am I missing something in this life?

            Quote: Joe Stalin
            bet that next year will be a remake of the Great October Revolution?

            - Yes you, my friend ... a dreamer laughing
    5. Oznob
      Oznob 28 June 2016 13: 56
      +3
      The technological base allows reducing the list of ministries.
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 28 June 2016 14: 07
        +4
        Quote: Oznob
        The technological base allows reducing the list of ministries.


        Bureaucrats do not need automation, unless they get kickbacks from contractors.

        They are against any transparency, ideally, they need 1980 people sitting in an accounting department of an enterprise as in 60 and rewriting papers one after another
        - there are many subordinates and no transparency.

        This is a warning:
        I'm not talking about medical equipment and cars. We are told that we have abruptly appeared “ultra-modern” T-50 aircraft and T-90 tank, but at the same time, for some reason, people only fly on Boeing and Airbus. "Carcasses", "Yaki" and "Ana" somehow smoothly sunk into oblivion.


        The author is not aware that the Superjet is being produced, what is being prepared for the MS-21, PD-14 ?, a new IL, new helicopters?
        Kamaz, Lada, UAZ, Gaza, a lot of foreign cars, Volkswagen has already organized engine production in Russia

        The most advanced medical robot developed in Russia

        The new icebreaker is not good for him; give him a "factory for the manufacture of any progressive trifles instead of the Chinese" give

        And the fact that former managers and sales agents leave for the village and engage in farming - how is it?

        Everyone in the collective farms? Again to produce loafers and destroy the earth?

      2. Joe stalin
        Joe stalin 28 June 2016 15: 35
        0
        network management of industries?
    6. Alekseev
      Alekseev 28 June 2016 15: 51
      +1
      Quote: Joe Stalin
      need recovery

      We must not forget that the system collapsed, to a large extent due to economic inefficiency.
      Oh no, no, no! This is all Teddy Bear! And etc.
      No need to be critical of Stalin, the Communist Party and the Soviet period.
      Then there were great achievements, but the board was also great.
      Recently, June 22 was ...
      Ah, it’s enemies who interfered, conspiracies ... One, no, two "wonderful Georgians" (another Beria, now among the hoes it is fashionable to make an idol out of him too)
      Enough to falsify, mixing the truth with nonsense.
      We need to take a lot of good from the past, but at the same time completely discard the extremely bad, which was more than before the horseradish.
      Only then will there be any sense, and not just from the restoration of ministries and departments, where there were also many sitting pants.
    7. russkiy redut
      russkiy redut 28 June 2016 16: 07
      0
      Article plus. You can do all this and within the framework of the existing system, the revolution will not help! Cadres decide everything! It is necessary to remove the radical admirers of Tolmud from power, who serve their interests. The Khazar Khaganate also had two authorities, where in fact it controlled all the Bek of Jewish origin, and the official was Kagan as the head of state.
    8. Buffet
      Buffet 29 June 2016 16: 27
      0
      Dohara ministries ... But the USSR collapsed anyway and there was a shortage of basic goods. The article is not badly written. Only at the end, the thought "must be done like this ..." but who would have done it. Yes, he himself stood near the machine and would have made a normal machine. Smart then dofig and who want to steer ...
  2. hirurg
    hirurg 28 June 2016 12: 35
    +11
    Well, not the whole elite is the fifth column. Why so indiscriminately.
    But you need to develop your own. Definitely.
    1. Joe stalin
      Joe stalin 28 June 2016 12: 51
      -1
      the current pseudo-elite does not need anything other than the export of raw materials and drunkards in Courchevel and V.V. Putin does not want to change anything.
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 28 June 2016 20: 09
        +1
        Quote: Joe Stalin
        the current pseudo-elite does not need anything other than the export of raw materials and drunkards in Courchevel and V.V. Putin does not want to change anything

        Hello tree fool

        The arguments against this your phrase are simply more than (censorship) lots of.

        If you are too lazy to see these arguments - you are the tree. Hello again yes
    2. sergeybulkin
      sergeybulkin 28 June 2016 13: 34
      0
      Well, not the whole elite is the fifth column. Why so indiscriminately.

      It depends on what is meant by the word elite. So now we have this abusive word. laughing
      For some reason, our "elite" is considered to be those who screwed up a millionaire or an oil rig for free in the 90s, never working anywhere, and now became billionaires ... fellow
    3. Joe stalin
      Joe stalin 28 June 2016 13: 40
      +5
      90% of the oligarchs of the Russian Federation sit on the trade in raw materials - oil, gas, roundwood, metals.
      Of course "not all"
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 28 June 2016 20: 15
        +1
        Quote: Joe Stalin
        90% of the Russian oligarchs trade in raw materials - oil, gas, roundwood, metals

        So laughing

        - and now, if it's not difficult, explain what it means "90% are sitting on"
        - is this the volume of exports? Or did you just count the number of aligarhs - who is "sitting" on what?

        In any case, by the way, this is a lie negative
        1. Joe stalin
          Joe stalin 28 June 2016 21: 59
          -1
          90% of Putin’s oligarch business is the extraction and sale of raw materials
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 29 June 2016 03: 06
            +1
            Quote: Joe Stalin
            90% of Putin’s oligarch business is the extraction and sale of raw materials

            - So far, you just repeated your own phrase. Evidence is not visible, and there is none, most likely
            - and, yes - and who are - "Putin's oligarchs"? Are there "not Putin's oligarchs"? And what is the difference, I would like to understand wink
  3. Leto
    Leto 28 June 2016 12: 42
    +21
    Yes, Eastern and Western Siberia, together, looks symbolic ...
    Forest, gas, oil, from all sides of the world diverge from here, but they themselves look like ... Expensive gasoline, instead of gas, coal and firewood, the most expensive flights.
    1. Civilian62
      Civilian62 28 June 2016 19: 36
      +1
      Eastern Siberia was bent in the 90s. Now most of the plants are standing, some are plundered, others are breathing.
  4. nik-karata
    nik-karata 28 June 2016 12: 44
    0
    It is intelligible! +
  5. atamankko
    atamankko 28 June 2016 12: 45
    +3
    Reformers need to clearly state who they are and their parents.
  6. kotuk_ha_oxote
    kotuk_ha_oxote 28 June 2016 12: 47
    +2
    Quote: hirurg
    Well, not the whole elite is the fifth column. Why so indiscriminately.
    But you need to develop your own. Definitely.

    Belief in patriotic bourgeois?
    1. hirurg
      hirurg 28 June 2016 12: 56
      0
      It depends on what you mean by the word elite.
  7. A-Sim
    A-Sim 28 June 2016 12: 48
    +1
    Persuasion (appeals) will not help.

    Need will make you.
    1. Joe stalin
      Joe stalin 28 June 2016 12: 52
      +3
      Stalin's iron hand 2.0 is needed and Stalin's purges of the "elite". Putin is clearly too weak for this and has no desire.
      1. Civilian62
        Civilian62 28 June 2016 19: 39
        0
        Sad as it is, you have to admit that you are right ..
      2. Cat man null
        Cat man null 29 June 2016 05: 03
        0
        Quote: Joe Stalin
        Stalin's iron hand 2.0 is needed and Stalin's purges of the "elite"

        - and this will lead, in the absence of an "iron curtain" (and it, as we know, has not been there for a long time, and it is difficult to restore it .. hmm .. it is difficult), to a forced flight of capital from the Russian Federation, and in the limit - to a collapse in the country and, possibly "civil strife"
        - Your western owners would be very happy with such a gift yes
        1. Joe stalin
          Joe stalin 30 June 2016 10: 10
          0
          Khodorkovsky took a lot?

          Stalinist purges and tough nationalization of the elite - a state need
  8. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 28 June 2016 12: 48
    +9
    The article is like a fever. We have long recognized the weaknesses of our Russian system and there has long been a development strategy with phased steps. And there is no limit to perfection, there will always be something better to do. But to write in the vein that now everything is somehow bad and soon the scribe is from a series of nervous walls.
    1. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS 28 June 2016 18: 26
      -2
      [quote = dchegrinec] We have long recognized the weaknesses of our Russian system and there has long been a development strategy with phased steps [/ Quote]
      belay
      Please elaborate on the development strategy.
      And you definitely live in Russia, and not on the Moon, there is some kind of lunar development program there, are you talking about this?
    2. Civilian62
      Civilian62 28 June 2016 19: 42
      +1
      I will not touch on the historical excursions of the author, but he is right in the fact that machine tool building is in a deep pope.
  9. kit-kat
    kit-kat 28 June 2016 12: 54
    +2
    Interesting. Thanks. But why do we need "Ruslan"? Where to use ekranoplanes? Although we are a maritime power, we are not enough to mass produce ekranoplanes for transport needs. If only for export. Although in Nizhny, it seems, they make small samples.
  10. Yutas
    Yutas 28 June 2016 12: 54
    +2
    There are controversial points in the article, but generally agree.
  11. iliya87
    iliya87 28 June 2016 12: 54
    0
    http://ru.dmgmori.com/webspecial/uljanovsk_mailing_15/ru-RU/ulyanovsk-plant.htm
    http://rosnauka.ru/publication/624

    We made our dry for civilian airlines. Yes, there are a lot of parts from France and Germany, but without it he would not have been allowed to enter the European market (these are the realities of today).
    1. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS 28 June 2016 18: 32
      0
      Quote: iliya87
      We made our dry for civilian airlines. Yes, there are a lot of parts from France and Germany, but without it he would not have been allowed to enter the European market (these are the realities of today).

      Why weren’t they allowed? Without their details?
      You are probably 29 years old ..., and you are not to blame that your generation resembles the "Minor" Fonvizin.
      "Door, for example, what is the name: a noun or an adjective? Mitrofan. Door? Which door? Pravdin. Which door! This one. Mitrofan. This? Adjective. Pravdin. Why? Mitrofan. Because it is attached to its place. the closet of the pole for a week the door has not yet been hung: so that is still a noun. Starodum. So that's why you have the word d ... an adjective, because it is applied to a stupid person? Mitrofan. And I know. Ms. Prostakova. What, what, my father? simpletons. What is it, my father? Pravdin. It couldn't be better. He's strong in grammar. Milon. I think not less in history. "
  12. BecmepH
    BecmepH 28 June 2016 12: 57
    +1
    Something this reminds me ... Ah ... This is the answer to ill-wishers and envious
  13. Joe stalin
    Joe stalin 28 June 2016 13: 00
    +10
    about the corrupt "elite" of the huckster of the Russian Federation:

    before we were taught in 1937 to be afraid - but today we understand: 1937 was NECESSARY then and all the more necessary now, otherwise the country will rot and perish.

    It is necessary to return the socialist system and the system of Soviets to the Constitution of the Russian Federation,

    Soviet education and the right to work guaranteed by the state,

    nationalize mining
    1. Leto
      Leto 28 June 2016 13: 37
      +4
      Quote: Joe Stalin
      before we were taught in 1937 to be afraid - but today we understand: 1937 was NECESSARY then and all the more necessary now, otherwise the country will rot and perish.

      there are examples when for the well-being of the country and its prosperity it is not necessary to shed blood, but you don’t see another, the blood of your eyes is frozen ...
      1. Joe stalin
        Joe stalin 28 June 2016 13: 44
        +6
        do you think all this corrupt kodla, having sowed the extraction of natural resources and state corporations, will applaud their nationalization?
        There will be frantic resistance and it will be possible to break it only by Stalinist methods
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 28 June 2016 20: 22
          +3
          Quote: Joe Stalin
          There will be frantic resistance and it will be possible to break it only by Stalinist methods

          - Do you want a civil war?
          - at the current level of development of military equipment (there will be no routine horse lavas. There will be Grads-Hurricanes-Tornadoes and NURSs from turntables. This is at least)
          - I really like the local inhabitants, who stand up for the "early restoration of socialism"
          - because socialism had no fewer minuses than pluses
          - and also because not a single tvarina has proposed a bloodless method of restoring this very socialism
          - despite the fact that the grateful States and other Europe will be happy to help, in which case, these hoopoes completely finish off Russia.

          Ugh .. negative
          1. Joe stalin
            Joe stalin 28 June 2016 22: 02
            0
            no, black funnels of the Ministry of State Security of the Russian Federation will just arrive at 2 a.m. whoever needs it and will be taken away forever
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 29 June 2016 05: 38
              +2
              Quote: Joe Stalin
              no, just the black funnels of the Ministry of State Security of the Russian Federation will arrive at 2 a.m. for whom it is necessary and will be taken away forever

              - for sure. Subject to the crystal honesty and absolute integrity of all (I emphasize - every single one) the organizers and executors of this (very large-scale) operation. It doesn’t happen (c), always someone sees something and knows what to know ... is contraindicated
              - that "who needs", as a rule, has a fully capable security service and a personal guard, well motivated and armed - need to be reminded?
              - that is, whatever one may say, "quietly, easily and simply" will not work. Exactly yes
              “Do you, in general, believe yourself when you give out such pearls to the mountain?”
              1. Joe stalin
                Joe stalin 30 June 2016 10: 12
                0
                how Hodor was taken away in due time - there and all who should be taken away.
    2. heaps
      heaps 29 June 2016 10: 12
      +1
      Tell me, my friend, what will happen if, God forbid, next year you will arrange a new 37 year and a revolution. What will happen to ordinary people, what will happen to the clergy, what will happen to believers?
  14. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 28 June 2016 13: 06
    0
    I somehow did not delve into the questions of those dying of hunger during the first five-year plans, and only now the reason for this condition became clear. and the West again put its dirty hands to the creation of mass famines in Russia. Here he is and the whole damned West here according to his deeds
    1. Aleksander
      Aleksander 28 June 2016 14: 25
      +1
      Quote: Anchonsha
      I somehow did not delve into the questions of those dying of hunger during the first five-year plans, and only now the reason for this condition became clear
      And it is necessary to penetrate in order to understand what exactly its leadership starved millions of citizens.
      First of all, think that the terrible famine and death of millions of people were absolutely classified comm leadership and the world is just DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS DISASTER 1932-33 nothing at all! This is normal? Let me remind you that during the famine in the Volga region of 1921, hundreds of thousands of people and organizations from all over the world helped him and saved millions of people! And in 1932 they were not even allowed to do it! Why did Pravda not come up with revelations then, in 1932, but only today the propagandists are withdrawing their speculations?
      The famine struck, first of all, those areas in which, according to the decision of the Politburo, "accelerated collectivization" was carried out, where ALL grain was taken away from people due to the fulfillment of the state order, despite the drought and poor harvest.
  15. Wolka
    Wolka 28 June 2016 13: 11
    +1
    a good overview, historically correct options for conducting a hybrid war were noted even then, it is true, any war does not break out on its own, it is prepared by the ruling elite and is carefully checked, but "pitfalls" emerge (the governing ideology in a potential victim, cementing and rallying society) and blitzgrieg fails. The desire to live better and better, a completely natural desire of any society, but not the ability to manage this desire turns into much worse consequences (this is me about the role of the individual in the history of the development of society). History theoretically develops in a spiral manner, certain historical events naturally tend to repeat themselves with a certain cyclicality, from which it follows that the harsh present of Russia certainly resonates with the past, which has not been lived once, in short, the result of this article and a warning to descendants in advance: expect trouble and always prepare for it ...
  16. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 28 June 2016 13: 13
    +4
    Unfortunately, import substitution in present-day Russia takes place only on the screens of our television sets. The country's leadership spends enormous funds on a PR campaign for the construction of new facilities and the launch of production, instead of using this money to build at least one plant that is needed by everyone to make any progressive change in exchange for the Chinese.


    Here I completely agree with the author. Our leadership in words strives for import substitution, but in reality it sits straight and waits for the lifting of sanctions and "warm friendship" with the West! The fact that our leaders are dependent on the West is not a secret to anyone - the money is in the accounts there, the children live and study there (while being successfully recruited). So there is no need to expect global changes in the issue of independence from the current government!
  17. russmensch
    russmensch 28 June 2016 13: 15
    +3
    One thing to remember: until we completely destroy our industrial potential, we will suck oil.

    If we finally destroy our industrial potential, then we will only **** suck, even oil will not be given. It’s not necessary to destroy, but to modernize, to create new technologies and so on ... And even if we are behind in this, it happens. But the road will be overpowered by the traveler. It is only necessary to want and do. But this is just not there. Everything began to be measured in money - the development of a new one is expensive and it is not known when it will pay off. Easier to buy ... But this is the road to nowhere. We will never catch up with anyone and will not be the first in anything. After all, they provide us with finished goods, and not learn how to make them. As an example: RD-180 engines. Already that the states are technically developed country, but can not repeat them. And they are dependent on Russia. And Russia today is almost completely dependent on other countries. There are goods, but we cannot make at least the same for ourselves. And again they offer to destroy the industry. They won’t have time to build a Superjet. They started talking that nobody needs it because there are Boeings and Airbus. We must buy them, and not compete with them, we won’t make them better ... Only with the iron state will we can get out of the technological gap.
    1. Joe stalin
      Joe stalin 28 June 2016 13: 24
      +1
      For the past 25 years, Russia has been eating the Great Heritage of the USSR - and the RD-180 as well. There are no own developments because in Russia there is neither education nor science, unlike the mighty USSR
      1. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 28 June 2016 13: 31
        +1
        Quote: Joe Stalin
        There are no own developments because in Russia there is neither education nor science, unlike the mighty USSR


        And the evidence, is it possible? !!
        1. Joe stalin
          Joe stalin 28 June 2016 13: 45
          -1
          provide evidence to the contrary - 100% of the development of the Russian Federation (after 1991) - without a Soviet backlog
          1. Bramb
            Bramb 28 June 2016 14: 20
            +2
            Linear polyethylene, for example. Or the production of TPA, PET. This is straight away.
            I can name several REE plants.
            1. Joe stalin
              Joe stalin 28 June 2016 14: 39
              +3
              only 2 inventions in 25 years ??

              And in the USSR for 25 years (1945 - 1970) there were HUNDREDS of such developments!
              1. Bramb
                Bramb 28 June 2016 15: 07
                +2
                You asked for evidence - I brought you.
                Your phrase initially sounded like this: "There are no developments of our own because in the Russian Federation there is neither education nor science, unlike the mighty USSR."
                I immediately brought you evidence that this statement is false. And now you jumped down and shout about comparisons. This is called juggling. It’s indecent.
                It's one thing "there are no developments", it's another thing when they are there, but they are not enough. This means that there are scientists, and science, and engineers.
                Failure to admit your mistake is a sign of weakness. Would change the avatar, disgrace.
                1. Joe stalin
                  Joe stalin 28 June 2016 15: 26
                  -1
                  I admit that there is. a couple is a triple. That the general conclusion still does not change, because quantity did not go into quality
        2. GradusHuK
          GradusHuK 28 June 2016 18: 14
          +2
          Look around and see!
    2. Civilian62
      Civilian62 28 June 2016 19: 49
      0
      Already got with these RD-180! All Americans can do, they have the technology and brains, it’s just that it’s cheaper.
  18. GAF
    GAF 28 June 2016 13: 27
    +6
    An author claiming to be an analyst in the introduction is more than a minus. "Horses, people and ..." And in addition, a beaten song with a beard already, the song of the middle-aged Gozman or Ryzhkov, coupled with "Yabloko" and others. In the conditions of the actual declared war on us by the West, touching concern for the people:
    "... with this money to build at least one plant that everyone needs to manufacture any progressive little things instead of Chinese ones. I'm not talking about medical equipment and cars. We are told that we have abruptly appeared" ultramodern "T-50 aircraft and T tank -90, but for some reason people only fly on Boeings and Airbuses. "Carcasses", "Yaki" and "Ana" somehow smoothly sunk into oblivion. "
    And he continues:
    "I agree that tanks and fighters will naturally come in handy in everyday life, simplify our life, or at least help us gain protection from a visible enemy ..."
    Comedian, however.
  19. cap
    cap 28 June 2016 13: 42
    +1
    We must remember one thing: until we finally destroy our industrial potential, we will suck oil. And during this process, if we, the Russian People, do not change or change anything, we will weaken so much that we will not be able to protect ourselves, after which we will be split, divided, enslaved and reduced in number. It was precisely this that Hitler behind the scenes was trying to achieve, and that’s what the whole world’s own, as well as our own elite, that fifth column, is now thirsting for.

    Thanks to the author. It has long been waiting for something like that. Everything or almost everything in such a generally small article.
    There are, of course, controversial issues.
  20. pofigisst74
    pofigisst74 28 June 2016 13: 43
    +2
    The well-being of Western empires is based on the robbery of colonies in the past, and the plunder of vassal countries in the present. At the same time, our rulers always gave out money to the left and to the right and forgave everyone their debts without any benefit from it. What they still do. Where does prosperity and prosperity come from! request
  21. Aleksander
    Aleksander 28 June 2016 13: 50
    -3
    To prevent the plan of the great leader in the 1925 year, Western countries led by the United States made a seemingly irrational decision not to accept gold from us as payment for the technologies, machines and equipment we need so much.


    And the fact that NO ONE OF ANYONE accepted gold coins from the author then slipped away?
    The author lists other "oddities" (from his point of view): acceptance-non-acceptance of forest oil, etc., although everything is explained simply - when Western business was economically profitable, they bought, when no, they did not: profit comes first! And asphyxiation of the "sprouts of a new civilization" interested them in the last place (again, profitable-unprofitable).
    Grain was taken because the USSR drove it at wild dumping prices, it was profitable. Raking the whole grain clean, the Communists doomed to a terrible death from starvation 7 million people (State Duma statement).
    By the way, for some reason, the author is not strange that these insidious American imperialists have installed and built dozens of modern factories: but what about "strangulation" ?! wink lol

  22. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 28 June 2016 13: 52
    +4
    Unfortunately, so far, with all the conversations, no progress in the economy is visible, on 27.06.2016/40/20 I watched the speeches of both the president and the prime minister at the United Russia congress, there were many people, respected figures of science, culture, sports, politics and I had a question - there were discussions in all directions, and whether there was a discussion about the moral and ethical norms prevailing in our power structures from the very top to the bottom, but there was NO such discussion. And it's a pity that what the so-called "ELITE" is doing, where do the bureaucrats of the largest business consider themselves, a number of the creative intelligentsia arouses indignation of the common people, YOU look how the WIVES of high-ranking officials behave, their stepsons and relatives, how posts in companies are distributed, the closer the official body, the steeper is the post of a son, daughter, as the representatives of the "elite" behave, especially their children. The proverb says: "THE FISH WILL GO OUT OF THE HEAD", isn't it time to clean up this rotten "elite", two years "rotten government eggs" - an economic bloc, two PIPETKI from the Central Bank cannot draw up a coherent, understandable, real plan for the country's exit from the crisis, one muttering, stupid, incompetent projects - KUDROPIN-V, which means that there is no coherent policy for the development of the entire national economic complex in all its spheres, WELL, THERE IS NO PROFESSIONALISM, WELL, NO. This is the field of activity of the delegates, but there will be people morally and morally honest, loyal to the MOTHERLAND, PROFESSIONALS in power, then there will be no crises in the country, there will be no sanctions, why the delegates did not ask the higher authorities how it happened that in a country with 6,4% world reserves of natural resources, not yet completely destroyed by science and education, more than XNUMX million RUSSIANS (XNUMX% of the country's population) live below the poverty line and who is to blame for this and why and again why these people did not suffer PUNISHMENT. We are called upon by the ruling party to a brighter future, but with such an attitude to its PEOPLE we will not see a brighter future, although YOU have long been living in a "bright future".
  23. Pitot
    Pitot 28 June 2016 14: 11
    +4
    About ancient Greece and in general Peleponess simply killed. It was so recently, even the witnesses are tossing around here, well, they just stood nearby. Bredyatina .....
  24. Bramb
    Bramb 28 June 2016 14: 28
    +5
    We have such analysts under each fence.
    It is felt that the author is a fan of the country, but receives information only from TV and newspapers. Amateur.
    And he messed up the story, and the gaps in the economy, and getting the information for today, the author is simply a disaster. The humanist, it seems: he picked up the tops, but all the same, to solve world problems.
  25. Tulip
    Tulip 28 June 2016 14: 33
    +6
    Of course, I could be wrong, because I am not a tough economist and political scientist, but I got the impression that this article is hidden propaganda, because the meaning of the whole text comes down to the following phrase: "The leadership is not coping and must be changed urgently."
    At the same time, remember that we have elections soon.
    1. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS 28 June 2016 18: 17
      -2
      Quote: Tulip
      that this article is hidden propaganda, because the meaning of the whole text is reduced to the following phrase: "The leadership is not coping and must be urgently changed."

      Do you really disagree with this thesis?
    2. Civilian62
      Civilian62 28 June 2016 19: 56
      0
      Duc, it’s not a hidden meaning, on the contrary, everything is on top. And I agree, it is necessary to change.
  26. Severok
    Severok 28 June 2016 14: 38
    +3
    A spanking of power is needed, a strong and bloody spanking. Such that "deputy" salaries of hundreds of thousands burst out, so that all the "pensions" of state officials in the same hundreds of thousands would fly out with a crash, so that golden crews would hiccup from a Mercedes, etc. And then you need a cruel responsibility for everything done while at the helm and sails, and even tougher for everything not done for the good of the country and the peoples. So cruel that all the relatives of the perpetrator must be affected by measures of influence, from confiscation and exile to ostracism.
    1. Joe stalin
      Joe stalin 28 June 2016 15: 27
      +1
      CLEANING power is needed, strong and bloody CLEANING.
      1. 3 Gorynych
        3 Gorynych 28 June 2016 15: 40
        0
        Are you nominating yourself for the role of Judge "Dred"? Even if you are so rushing about the change of government, not all of them are trolls!
        1. Civilian62
          Civilian62 28 June 2016 19: 59
          0
          Without a second thought, please name a couple of three, I’m interested in your adequacy criteria.
      2. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 28 June 2016 18: 14
        +2
        Quote: Joe Stalin
        CLEANING power is needed, strong and bloody CLEANING.

        not a cleaning, but a change. Speak more specifically.
        1. Civilian62
          Civilian62 28 June 2016 20: 00
          -1
          It’s written, bloody, much more concrete.
          1. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS 28 June 2016 20: 43
            -1
            Quote: Civilian62
            It’s written, bloody, much more concrete.

            Cleaning is the same as cleaning the lavatory, and then again letting thugs go in there, so that everything is dirty again.
            The question is not about cleaning, but about changing the political and economic course, formation, if you like, and changing a bolt to a bolt — just lose time, which, by the way, we have practically no.
        2. Joe stalin
          Joe stalin 28 June 2016 22: 04
          -1
          there is no reason to change one liberal for another - you just need to cleanse the country of liberals and all enemies of the people - Western hangovers, of which there are many
  27. na76
    na76 28 June 2016 15: 55
    +1
    Quote: Nikolai K
    And the US government in general is so cruel, I would even say stupid that during the depression and mass unemployment destroys the grain

    By the way it was
  28. I am human
    I am human 28 June 2016 16: 43
    0
    How did the "fifth column" bristle here - where are so many liberals from?
  29. vmo
    vmo 28 June 2016 18: 10
    +2
    Nationalize the extraction of natural resources and hydrocarbons, and everything will fall into place. Nationalize enterprises and appoint specialists, and remove the thieves' board of directors consisting of
    from the former zk.
    1. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS 28 June 2016 18: 13
      -1
      Quote: vmo
      Nationalize the extraction of natural resources and hydrocarbons, and everything will fall into place. Nationalize enterprises and appoint specialists, and remove the thieves' board of directors consisting of
      from the former zk.

      Everything that you offer is called a revolution! yes
      1. Civilian62
        Civilian62 28 June 2016 20: 02
        0
        Well, that's what this is all about, it's just that everyone is afraid to call a spade a spade
    2. Joe stalin
      Joe stalin 28 June 2016 22: 07
      -1
      not only all enterprises, but only strategic sectors:

      1. oil and gas
      2. energy
      3. railway
      4. gold - diamond - mining
  30. praide
    praide 28 June 2016 18: 21
    +2
    Quote: Joe Stalin
    the current pseudo-elite does not need anything other than the export of raw materials and drunkards in Courchevel and V.V. Putin does not want to change anything.

    Duc like Aurora finish repairing. Do you like the 17th change? Or is there a secret recovery plan for a week of a 30-year-old economy?
    1. Joe stalin
      Joe stalin 28 June 2016 22: 09
      -2
      But is there any other alternative to the liberal financial and economic bloc of Putin-Kudrin?

      A quick coup of the special services, Stalin 2.0 - and with black craters we will clean the whole country at night from the accumulated liberal shit WITHOUT any revolutions.

      A PARALYSIS FEAR should inspire the people's power!
      1. heaps
        heaps 29 June 2016 10: 20
        +2
        Quote: Joe Stalin
        But is there any other alternative to the liberal financial and economic bloc of Putin-Kudrin?

        A quick coup of the special services, Stalin 2.0 - and with black craters we will clean the whole country at night from the accumulated liberal shit WITHOUT any revolutions.

        A PARALYSIS FEAR should inspire the people's power!

        And how far are you willing to go, what would you fear? Beat your own so that strangers are afraid? Tell me, do you think the clergy and the Orthodox are liberal? Or remind you how many new martyrs after the 17th and 37th years of the last century?
        1. Joe stalin
          Joe stalin 30 June 2016 10: 14
          0
          The fear of the elite under I.V. Stalin made it possible to maintain the highest performing discipline in the state apparatus. He is needed
  31. Militia
    Militia 28 June 2016 18: 47
    +4
    Quote: russkiy redut
    Dmitry Medvedev real name David Mendel!

    A reference to the pedigree, please, please. If it does not, of course.
  32. Lelek
    Lelek 28 June 2016 19: 57
    0
    (God forbid Russia to face the same sanctions as the USSR - with the almost complete absence of production of means of production, that is, machine tools, and in the absence of an understanding of the need to establish such production, possible Western sanctions to limit the supply of not only drill and defense, but high-tech industrial equipment can be devastating.)

    You cannot argue with this thesis. We asked for our machine-tool industry ... If we do not close this hole in the near future, then "there is great sorrow awaiting us." In the west, this direction is given great importance and as a result they earn money incommensurate with oil and gas. That's where (IMHO) you need to direct the gaze of the primad .. (sorry) of the prime minister, and not in foreign gadgets.
  33. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 June 2016 21: 02
    +2
    Machine-tool industry is being revived - a fact! Our machines are more and more present on the market. Yes, and a lot of equipment. Our 3-D laser machines have appeared (our fiber lasers!) Print parts from metal powders. Etc. Well, we have a lot, and is increasing all the time. And bottlenecks are expanding. Give the deadline, and our planes will carry our passengers both domestically and abroad.
    And the author is a provocateur. It was such a big word during the Civil War. True, then they shot for it. And now - only set the cons.
    1. Joe stalin
      Joe stalin 28 June 2016 22: 12
      -3
      Yeah. it blooms straight and smells:

      today's consumption of machine tools determines tomorrow's production opportunities. Since, by buying a certain amount of equipment, manufacturers update current capacities and increase opportunities for increasing production in the future. And if, for example, China is now several times ahead of its closest competitor - the USA - in terms of consumption of machine tools, then it must be assumed that in the near future it will outstrip the USA in industrial production by approximately the same size as it is now ahead of the Americans in updating and installing new equipment. It is not encouraging that Russia in the list of equipment consumers is only in 9th place in 2015, and for the period 2010-2015 did not rise above 7th place. There is no evidence that Russia is preparing to take a place in the world list of industrial leaders in the future.

      http://finobzor.ru/show-3728-stanki-stanki-stanki.html
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 28 June 2016 22: 25
        +4
        Quote: Joe Stalin
        today's consumption of machine tools determines tomorrow's production opportunities

        - for sure. Let's get a damn lot of machines for the production of mobile phones (as well as washing machines and electric kettles), and try to compete in this market ... and with the same Chinese.

        It’s easier to immediately bury the money in the ground, and wait for the golden tree to grow.

        A la Pinocchio in the country (censorship) yes
  34. Weyland
    Weyland 28 June 2016 21: 23
    +4
    Megara provided political asylum to runaway Athenian slaves, which, of course, infringed on the authority of the king of the Athenians Pericles, because of which he forbade Mega merchants to trade in the jurisdiction of the Athenian Maritime Union, which includes half of Ancient Greece. After some time, trade sanctions affected both the small Mega economy and the large Athenian one. Following these events, the head of the formidable Sparta Corinth decided to stand up for the Mega

    Question: what did the author smoke? Especially delivered by "King Pericles" and Corinth as the head of Sparta!
    After such blunders and infe about the events of the 20th century, you begin to be mistrustful!
  35. heaps
    heaps 29 June 2016 10: 15
    +2
    Quote: Joe Stalin
    no, black funnels of the Ministry of State Security of the Russian Federation will just arrive at 2 a.m. whoever needs it and will be taken away forever

    And who wrote 4 million anonymous letters?
    1. Joe stalin
      Joe stalin 30 June 2016 10: 15
      0
      we can do without anonymous letters - now the 21st century is in the yard. Let's create an analog of the NSA
  36. Calter
    Calter 29 July 2016 12: 53
    0
    Latest import substitution news:
    In Russia, a hard disk with a capacity of 50 MB and a weight of 25 kg was manufactured. The cost of this miracle of technology is almost 4 million rubles.
    https://hi-tech.mail.ru/news/big-russian-disk/
    At this pace, by 2080, we will even have our own PC (unless, of course, the CIA and Obama do the same). And it will cost about half of our GDP.