Welt: The issue of exit from the EU can be raised in five more countries

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Austria, Hungary, the Netherlands, Finland and France can think about leaving the European Union after the UK, reports RIA News Post German Welt.

Welt: The issue of exit from the EU can be raised in five more countries


“These countries have certain“ tendencies ”that could be seen in the UK before we started talking about the referendum,” the newspaper writes, citing the document that came to its disposal in the Ministry of Finance of Germany.

The document also deals with the tactics to be chosen regarding economic ties with Britain.

The United Kingdom “should not have automatic free access to the EU’s unified market,” the text says. At the same time, it is noted that “after constructive negotiations on the withdrawal of Great Britain from the EU and their successful completion,” the country should be considered an “associate partner of the European Union.”

The Ministry of Finance believes that negotiations between the EU and Britain will be "difficult."

Recall that at a referendum in Britain 51,9% voted for the withdrawal of the country from the European Union.
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  1. +3
    25 June 2016 08: 36
    In Britain, I think, they will still compete for the EU:
    "Over half a million opponents of Brexit are in favor of a new referendum
    To date, 515 thousand 811 people have supported the petition, which is five times more than the required number of 100 thousand signatures. In a referendum on Britain's exit from the European Union
    Brexit supporters won by a narrow margin. "

    RIA News

    05:02
    https://news.yandex.ru/yandsearch?cl4url=ria.ru%2Fworld%2F20160625%2F1451419361.
    html & lr = 215 & lang = ru & rubric = britain
    1. +20
      25 June 2016 08: 44
      Here the question is not so much interesting - will Britain leave the EU or she will be left there by hook or by crook, the fact of precedent and Brussels’s understanding is important that 17 million British said no! And that means they will need to change their policy towards the simple, European people and is learning to take into account national interests! Now, the top European officials using draconian methods, I think, will impose on everyone else who wants some kind of prohibition on such plebiscites, but in any case, they will begin to work on the mistakes and what the hell is not joking, they might even come to the conclusion that Washington is far , and then they live in Europe!
      1. +8
        25 June 2016 12: 31
        With Britain's exit from the EU and Cameron's resignation, things are not so simple. In politics, nothing is unexpected - especially in the English monarchy! It's like a suitcase with a "double" bottom. Let's try to find the "second bottom" - what may be hidden in politics!
        Firstly, the EU is a US project to manage continental Europe. The English bank is part of the US Federal Reserve. It cannot be that the United States so unexpectedly released Britain from the EU. Moreover, as some recent publications in the media report, on the one hand, the very presence of England in the EU created EU credibility in the eyes of other non-EU countries. (Now almost all European countries have entered the EU.) And secondly, contrary to popular belief, England supposedly still more “fed” from the EU countries than contributed to the EU. Therefore, in theory, it is beneficial for England and the United States that Britain remains in the EU. To get such a result when voting in a referendum, they could very well use falsification of the voting results - all the more so since the difference could be eliminated only in 1,5%. But they didn’t. Why? Let's try to find the answer.
        Imagine that the USA is really preparing for the 3-th MV from the Russian Federation.
        The English Bank is the head bank of the US Federal Reserve (the Rothschilds, merged together with the English monarchy). What does the global elite need to do strategically? It is necessary to withdraw England from the Russian retaliatory strike in the 3-th MV with Russia. In other words, England should not immediately be included in the TMV, but should be at the beginning of the war only as an outside observer of the events. This will allow: 1) to keep it intact, clean and tidy, 2) to observe the progress of the war in Europe and 3 painlessly) at the end of TMB to enter as a “liberator” with the corresponding preferences for the winner in 3 world war. Everything, as in WWI and WWII.
        How to do it now? Strategically, the UK needs:
        1. relieve oneself of obligations in the EU - withdraw Britain from the EU;
        2. to break free of NATO commitments - to withdraw from NATO;
        3. to conclude fictitious "allied" defense treaties separately with NATO countries without their ratification, as Great Britain did before WWII, counting on its final geopolitical victory on the principle "Winners are not judged! The winner is always right!" (And the UK may well find a loophole to refuse from its ratified "allied" treaties.)
        1. +8
          25 June 2016 12: 36
          If it seems to someone that Britain, leaving the EU and NATO, will remain unprotected, then this is not so. Namely.
          If Britain also leaves NATO, leaving the EU, it will conclude separately with each European country an "allied" defense treaty. Such a treaty will be drawn up with the proviso that England will comply with her obligations to her ally only if he himself does not start the war first. If an ally starts a war, England will remain neutral. That's the trick!
          If, for example, NATO countries (and they are actually being prepared for an aggressive war against Russia) attack Russia, then Britain's withdrawal from NATO, as well as such an "allied" defense treaty with each individual NATO country, allows Great Britain to maintain its neutrality in the 3rd MV (TMV). And then, by the end of the war, she is free to join the war herself on any side she sees fit.
          Moreover, such neutrality will allow the UK during the TMV to sell weapons to all warring parties.
          Further. In this situation, the main thing for the British is that someone from the NATO countries begin a war in Europe.
          Therefore, the Anglo-Saxons will do everything to start a war in Europe.
          As for the attack on England, then according to this "allied" defensive treaty, all countries will have to defend England if anyone attacks her. So England does not remain without protection from the "allies". Moreover, it should be remembered that the United Kingdom through the Bank of England is connected as an umbilical cord with the US Federal Reserve and the United States itself. In fact, England and the United States are one and the same. The USA is England's executive arms. And the influence of Great Britain on NATO when Britain leaves NATO still remains through the US Federal Reserve, the US State Department, the CIA and the Pentagon, which leads NATO.
          Besides. The entire EU will not break up. Rather, according to the Anglo-Saxon plan, this is not provided. Most likely, only his center of gravity in Europe will shift. It may, for example, be Poland with its plans to recreate the Commonwealth “from mozh to mozh” (from the Baltic Sea with access to the Black Sea). From the side of the Anglo-Saxons it will be pure water the exact same geopolitical “setup” that it was for Hitlerite Germany and its allies in WWII.

          I myself made this forecast for TMV on the basis of historical data on how Great Britain and the USA prepared WWI and WWII, how they participated in them. This information about WWI and WWII can be found in the following books:
          1. Starikov Nikolay. Geopolitics. How is this done .- SPb .: Peter, 2016. -368 with
          2. Starikov Nikolay. 1917. The answer to the “Russian” revolution. - St. Petersburg: Peter, 2015. -416 with
          3. Starikov Nikolay. Who made Hitler attack Stalin. Hitler's fatal mistake .-- St. Petersburg: Peter, 2015. -368 sec
          4. Starikov Nikolay. Who is financing the collapse of Russia? From the Decembrists to the Mujahideen. - SPb .: Peter, 2016. - 288 sec.
          1. +2
            25 June 2016 16: 00
            Quite right - there is always a second bottom! The Anglo-Saxons never do anything just like that ... They, with their plebiscite, also disclaimed responsibility for the poor policy in the Middle East and the flow of refugees to continental Europe - now they can formally remain in the EU to send the EU with all their quotas and, plus, not to give a penny to the budget, but still keep Brussels on a short leash through the financial system of the FRS! Nevertheless, the eyes of a common man in the street will open a little - although this applies to developed countries: France, Italy, Germany, Austria .. ., and the countries of "young democracies": Poland, the Balts, the remnants of Yugoslavia ..., as they were the sixes of Washington, they will remain so, even if England enters and leaves the EU several times a day!
            1. +2
              25 June 2016 17: 37
              Tatyana, nothing is clear with the exit of England from the EU (the government, the queen, parliament can prevent the exit). And because England is a member of NATO (it will never leave the bloc, if only for economic reasons) and the owner of nuclear weapons, then any exits from the EU will not stop Moscow from retaliating from it.
              I agree with Eugene that a precedent has been set for other disaffected EU countries (regardless of whether Britain leaves the EU or not). Therefore, the officials of the EU bureaucratic apparatus are shaking at the heart that they will remain without work. That they do not meet the requirements of one of the "advanced" countries of Europe, and that only Germany will remain (Hitler's idea can come true even without war), if Paris leaves, then the EU will surely fall down, no one will want to remain under such a hegemon, remembering the history of the past century.
              As we can see, there is no unity and solidarity in the EU. Small problems in the form of a recession and refugees (less than 1% of the total number of EU citizens) are ready to destroy this colossus. So I'm afraid that now the leaders of the West (including the US) are cutting off their phones in order to prevent the British from leaving the EU. But in countries where the authorities listen to the people much more than in England everything can "work". So Russian sanctions could play a fatal role in the collapse of the EU - i.e. themselves and have brought themselves under the split and collapse.
              1. +2
                25 June 2016 18: 01
                I think England will not go anywhere. Since it will lose its main trump cards. As a global financial center and exchange, setting global prices for goods. The EU will be around 450 mil. people after the exit of England and naturally that peace. finance institutions will be forced to move there from England, because markets are not comparable. England is also losing its political influence - remember how Cameron was worried that he was not participating in Minsk. Staying in NATO can somehow influence, but not on decision-making in the EU.
                Therefore, I think that this referendum in England will be "buried" and now they are looking for ways to do it. But the genie has already been released from the bottle, and Cameron played an important role here. The paradox is that the sanctions are indirectly destroying them - do they understand this !? All the same, trade with Russia would give certain dividends for them (I don’t know how much, they write from 10 to 100 billion euros, but nevertheless) and it would be possible, together with Moscow, to solve problems with the BB, it is much more effective than Washington, and it is impossible not to notice - i.e. the problem of refugees should not be solved at home, but simply not created. The EU and Moscow could simply "turn down" Erdogan by joint efforts, but everything was spoiled by the sanctions. "Don't dig a hole for another - you yourself will find yourself in it!" hi
                1. +1
                  26 June 2016 02: 39
                  Kasym
                  I think England will not go anywhere. Since it will lose its main trump cards. As a global financial center and exchange, setting global prices for goods. The EU will be about 450 mil. people after the exit of England and naturally that peace. finance institutions will be forced to move there from England, because markets are not comparable. England is also losing its political influence ... Staying in NATO, it can somehow influence, but not on decision-making in the EU
                  All the European structures of the IMF, EU, PACE, WTO are US projects (read, Great Britain)! Therefore, Britain does not lose any influence on the EU and NATO countries!
                  Kasym
                  Therefore, I think that this referendum in England will be "buried" and now they are looking for ways to do it.

                  I already wrote in my post above that nothing accidental happens in politics - especially in the UK! Moreover, with a referendum, the results of which could be rigged. It was SUCH results that Britain needed, and not others!
                  Do not believe me - look at what Nikolai Starikov is saying! Today I found a video with him.

                  See "Nikolai Starikov on Britain's exit from the European Union." Published: 24 Jun. 2016 d. See with 11 min. Cm.
                2. +1
                  26 June 2016 05: 33
                  Quote: Kasym
                  I think England will not go anywhere

                  Will there be two more opposite referenda?
                  Each with his supporters?
                  So the whole year will pass, in discussions.
        2. 0
          25 June 2016 17: 49
          Quote: Tatiana
          How to do it now? Strategically, the UK needs:
          1. relieve oneself of obligations in the EU - withdraw Britain from the EU;
          2. to break free of NATO commitments - to withdraw from NATO;

          And why should England leave NATO? belay
          1. +2
            25 June 2016 20: 20
            atalef
            Why should England leave NATO? belay

            I wrote about this in my post above from 12: 36 minutes.

            If Britain also leaves NATO, leaving the EU, it will conclude separately with each European country an "allied" defense treaty. Such a treaty will be drawn up with the proviso that England will comply with her obligations to her ally only if he himself does not start the war first. If an ally starts a war, England will remain neutral. That's the trick!
            If, for example, NATO countries (and they are actually being prepared for an aggressive war against Russia) attack Russia, then Britain's withdrawal from NATO, as well as such an "allied" defense treaty with each individual NATO country, allows Great Britain to maintain its neutrality in the 3rd MV (TMV). And then, by the end of the war, she is free to join the war herself on any side she sees fit.
            Moreover, such neutrality will allow the UK during the TMV to sell weapons to all warring parties.
            Further. In this situation, the main thing for the British is that someone from the NATO countries begin the war in Europe by Russia.
            1. +2
              25 June 2016 20: 50
              Quote: Tatiana
              If, for example, NATO countries (and they are actually being prepared for an aggressive war against Russia) attack Russia, then Britain's withdrawal from NATO, as well as such an "allied" defense treaty with each individual NATO country, allows Great Britain to maintain its neutrality in the 3rd MV (TMV). And then, by the end of the war, she is free to join the war herself on any side she sees fit.
              Moreover, such neutrality will allow the UK during the TMV to sell weapons to all warring parties.
              Further. In this situation, the main thing for the British is that someone from the NATO countries begin the war in Europe by Russia.

              Lord, why so many difficulties? what
              England will be in NATO or not - it will not save her from a nuclear strike in case of TMV!
              Great Britain is a nuclear power itself, there is an American nuclear weapon on its territory plus a very sickly fleet - Do you think that they will not be targets for Russian nuclear forces? In vain! After exchanging nuclear strikes with the United States, it cannot be allowed to leave countries that, for obvious reasons (the very same nuclear strikes), were superior to us. Both England and France, and even more so China, are the primary targets for strikes immediately after targets in the United States.
              The United States, by the way, will also strike at China, in any case, for the same reasons.
      2. +2
        25 June 2016 17: 48
        Quote: Finches
        So, they will need to change their policy towards the simple, European people and learn to take into account national interests!

        Leave about nat.interest or something like that.
        The main problem is that after the creation of the EU, it became worse for people in countries such as Holland, Germany, England - leading economically developed countries - to live worse.
        They don’t run from the good.

        Quote: Finches
        ! Now, the highest European officials using draconian methods, I think, will impose on everyone else who wants some kind of prohibition on such plebiscites

        will not help until the top of the EU turns to face its citizens and realizes that only by their well-being do they exist at all - there will always be a danger of holding another referendum
        Quote: Finches
        perhaps they will even come to the conclusion that Washington is far away, and then they should live in Europe!

        from the collapse of the EU, Washington will only win, it will remain the center of power to which the weak countries of Europe will automatically rush.
        1. +1
          25 June 2016 21: 54
          And in your opinion there is a rational grain, but I think that in the near future we will already see answers to some questions!
    2. +3
      25 June 2016 08: 45
      Quote: SRC P-15
      Over half a million Brexit opponents stand for new referendum

      "The doctor said to the morgue," and the EU greeted the association recourse
      1. +2
        25 June 2016 08: 47
        Queue for the states, Texas, go ahead! )))
      2. +1
        25 June 2016 08: 59
        Quote: Tusv
        "The doctor said to the morgue," and the EU greeted the association

        it turns out the European Union as the head physician.
        1. +3
          25 June 2016 09: 20
          Quote: Lukich
          it turns out the European Union as the head physician.

          That's right, and the patient does not want to pay for the treatment laughing
      3. +5
        25 June 2016 09: 04
        The most rzhachnoe that in the EU blurt out that they are ready to accept Scotland (which is against the exit of arrogance from the EU), just let it separate from England))))
    3. +14
      25 June 2016 08: 52
      The Ottoman and Roman empires collapsed, only horns and legs remained from the empire of Great Britain, the USSR collapsed, the "Brownian" movement began in the United States, even the "progenitor of this world", the ancient Ukraine, is falling apart ... And this ANTI-NATURAL Union - the EU - God himself ordered to fall apart for "nothing lasts forever under the moon!"
      1. +3
        25 June 2016 11: 09
        Quote: Black
        And this ANTI-NATURAL Union - EU - God himself ordered to fall apart for "nothing is forever under the Moon!"

        The United States is more profitable and easier to influence European countries separately. A weak Europe is vital for mattresses. The UK will leave the EU, but this does not mean that it will cease to be the main US ally.
        After the collapse of the EU, the USA, by hook or by crook, will strive to ensure that such countries of Europe as Germany, France and Italy do not get close to Russia, and this will be the main task for the coming years for mattresses.
        1. 0
          25 June 2016 20: 57
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: Black
          And this ANTI-NATURAL Union - EU - God himself ordered to fall apart for "nothing is forever under the Moon!"

          The United States is more profitable and easier to influence European countries separately. A weak Europe is vital for mattresses. The UK will leave the EU, but this does not mean that it will cease to be the main US ally.

          If it’s more profitable, then why did the entire top US agitate the British for maintaining Britain’s EU membership? wink
          It's not so simple - now there are a lot of countries in the EU that are actually following in the wake of US policy - the Baltic countries, Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, and the rest of the former socialist countries not far from this, except, perhaps, Hungary and the Czech Republic. And through these countries, the United States has a great influence on the EU, as well as on countries such as Germany, France, the UK. And this is the United States more profitable, because for the sake of European solidarity and the large countries of Europe are ready to give up something! bully hi
    4. +7
      25 June 2016 09: 08
      There are no encore referendums. Brexit has shaken more than just the European economy. The countries are limitrophes in touch, and there is panic in the queue in the EU. The dream of a European to become an exceptional European at once rested on the EU carrot from NATO. First there, and then to the EU. And in fact, to indicate their anti-Russian position, readiness to lie under the United States and die for a free America. It is clear who "for" are not going to die, but they are bringing their peoples to this. The anti-Putin ideology will begin to sharply radicalize, which will lead Europe to an even greater split rather than unity. That's where they go!
    5. 0
      25 June 2016 09: 10
      And then again and again, until the pack fails.)))
      And it is possible with elections to power structures.
      Maidan reminds
    6. +1
      25 June 2016 10: 16
      Let it not leave the EU, the people simply did not take into account all the consequences. They, for example, will not want to split off independent Scotland and Northern Ireland, who want to remain in the EU.
      1. +3
        25 June 2016 12: 53
        Blondy hi (3) RU Today, 10: 16 ↑
        Let it not leave the EU, the people simply did not take into account all the consequences. They, for example, will not want to split off independent Scotland and Northern Ireland, who want to remain in the EU.

        Yes, this is just a reason to leave England. Here and backstage for averting the eyes that the EU wants.
        1. +1
          25 June 2016 21: 58
          Well, well, I quote:
          (BBC Russian Service) The petition for a second referendum on UK membership in the EU gained more than 1 million signatures.
          According to 13:25 Moscow time, the petition posted on the website of the British Parliament was signed by more than 1,1 million people.

          The number of supporters of the second referendum is growing rapidly. Early Saturday morning, the number of signatories was 555 thousand. In fact, in a few hours it increased by half a million people.
    7. +2
      25 June 2016 10: 27
      If right now Le Peng comes to power, then the paddlers will also hold a referendum and most likely will leave, and then the EU will be kirdyk because the Fritzes will not be pulled alone.
    8. +3
      25 June 2016 10: 55
      Welt: The issue of exit from the EU can be raised in five more countries

      Who is the last one and dad!
      Now the last fuckers are determined who in the EU will feed the remaining parasites by budet.V leaders for the title of the main loshara of Europe are still Germany. But not everything is lost. Maybe the Nevtsy will get it. Although they have a "great mission" as always scratching their heads. laughing So in company with Albania, Greece and other economic tigers. I am silent about the jackpot Ukraine laughing Stay the most!
  2. +6
    25 June 2016 08: 38
    The first one went. The others will reach for it.
    1. +6
      25 June 2016 08: 54
      Down and Out trouble started. It will go easier further, the main thing is to move the heavy load, and then it goes with less resistance. smile
  3. +11
    25 June 2016 08: 38
    Russia does not mind ... We work further! Then NATO ....
    1. +4
      25 June 2016 09: 01
      Quote: Chariton
      Then NATO ....

      but there you need to run the outskirts. inside will fall apart
      1. 0
        25 June 2016 14: 06
        Quote: Lukich
        Quote: Chariton
        Then NATO ....

        but there you need to run the outskirts. inside will fall apart

        No, these just "sublikes" have always been, bloody truth .. soldier
        Everything is more serious there with NATO ... There should be no mistakes ..!
  4. +7
    25 June 2016 08: 41
    I think they’ll stir up. Not the fact that more Britain will leave the zone.
    For example, a princess may veto. Now all this pack is imprisoned against the Russian Federation. Remember Greece. Taki restrained.
    One pleases. Now they will not be up to the orange # our brothers.
    1. +3
      25 June 2016 08: 49
      Quote: SCHWERIN
      Not the fact that more Britain will leave the zone.

      Blackmail blackmail? Quite possibly
      1. +2
        25 June 2016 09: 24
        As far as I remember, the queen has no real power. Googling ...
        1. +2
          25 June 2016 10: 04
          Quote: sabakina
          As far as I remember, the queen has no real power. You have to google it.

          The article was on the site. The queen has immeasurable power. Kim Jong-un is resting
  5. 0
    25 June 2016 08: 41
    I think that the sanctions will be lifted soon.
    1. +4
      25 June 2016 08: 54
      Quote: Igor39
      I think that the sanctions will be lifted soon.

      But Russia will not cancel ...
    2. +2
      25 June 2016 10: 16
      Quote: Igor39
      I think that the sanctions will be lifted soon.

      And where does the sanction?
  6. +4
    25 June 2016 08: 44
    Nobody will come out of nowhere, as they say "one ruble, two way out", yesterday I already wrote that this show was most likely calculated as indicative of what would happen to Britain in case of an exit, a petition and a bunch of voices immediately appeared, and the other dissatisfied lesson. The only thing that was miscalculated was the reaction of those who "decided" to get something out of this situation.
    1. +4
      25 June 2016 09: 02
      Did you understand what you said? If they go against the majority of the votes who voted to leave the EU, then the recent referendum on the separation of Scotland from England can also be protested, and this is a dangerous precedent, then many people in the minority who write and collect votes can reconsider the referendums. And what will it lead to?
      1. +4
        25 June 2016 09: 41
        Quote: Mengad
        Did you understand what you said? If they go against the majority of the votes who voted to leave the EU, then the recent referendum on the separation of Scotland from England can also be protested, and this is a dangerous precedent, then many people in the minority who write and collect votes can reconsider the referendums. And what will it lead to?

        I support. Great Britain, the country of case law and invalidate this referendum, the path to the collapse of the country will open, although the process has already begun from the side of Northern Ireland. The situation is tense, but what will the English royal court say? After all, this is going to split England. Cameron, although he announced about the resignation, but will be in power for about another six months, and this is a long time. As Khoja Nasredin said, during this period I will either die, or Emir, or this donkey will die. So let's not rush.
    2. +3
      25 June 2016 09: 25
      Petition? main flow of petitions from whom? quote: .. Unlike the majority of the country's population, more than 60 percent of Londoners spoke in favor of retaining Britain as part of the EU. In all constituencies of the capital, with the exception of four, Brexit opponents won. end quote. Have you lived in London? saw who inhabits london? No? and I lived and know that London is populated by visiting Hindus, Arabs of all stripes, new EU members to be Poles, Balts and Ukrainians. It is beneficial for the EU because it gives a pass to England within the EU and some can come there and bring their families. And the true English they don’t have enough of this flow of migrants for a long time. One Stradford region Ukrainians are almost alone. It’s profitable for London to be part of the EU and another England outside of London the EU is not needed.
      1. +1
        25 June 2016 12: 04
        visiting Hindus, Arabs of all stripes
        It was they who joyfully voted on the way out, so that the Eastern Europeans would not take away their work. Serezno-me, the two fruits described above explained that without Polsha and Romania they would be better in England. And in their ethnic newspapers they wrote about it, and Baroness Lakshmi was also out (only when Nigel Farazh-local Zhirinovsky published a photo of hordes of refugees, she went over to Euro-optimists, there they did not belittle the brothers.
        1. +1
          25 June 2016 17: 03
          Wrong! Here they are, and the main threat! I quote: ... Unlike most Britons, 60% of Londoners voted against leaving the EU. “London is an international city, and we want to stay in the heart of Europe,” the petition says.

          According to the petition, the mayor of Sadik Khan must declare London independent, and apply for entry into the EU and the Schengen zone. The authors of the petition also believe that there is still a need to discuss the issue of a single European currency. End of quote. London has become INTERNATIONAL! BL! It’s the capital of Great Britain for centuries and Muslims and others came to London so it’s their home. the flow of refugees and England would be PPC. The British have a chance to return their culture, whatever it was and like the Anglo-Saxons or not, but I hope that they will regain their good name and not make themselves a tolerant and depraved country.
          1. +1
            26 June 2016 11: 10
            According to the petition, the mayor of Sadik Khan must declare London independent and apply
            They brought a good dope to Brixton.
        2. 0
          25 June 2016 17: 12
          I apologize? Do you live in England? Am I judging by the flag simply? If yes? then you should know how local relate to visitors? One of the reasons why the British do not like Poles is that when they rushed after joining the EU in England, they brought down local salaries, when the Poles offered to work with whole buses for 2 pounds per hour! I myself lived in England for 4 years, so I know what I'm talking about .
          1. +1
            26 June 2016 11: 08
            ! I myself lived in England for 4 years, so I know what I'm talking about.
            I still live in England. I only deal with the "indigenous". (They treat me normally) I also know. They otnosyatsa with mixed feelings know that without them, nothing. For 2 pounds, even Romanians do not work, it is stupidly unrealistic to live for this money.
  7. +2
    25 June 2016 08: 47
    Already 500000 signatures have been collected for the referendum ... it is not yet known how these dances will end with a tambourine
    1. +4
      25 June 2016 11: 53
      Quote: darksoul
      Already 500000 signatures have been collected for the referendum ... it is not yet known how these dances will end with a tambourine

      Not at all. Jump and go home.
  8. 0
    25 June 2016 08: 49
    It is high time, but whether it will turn out or not is another question.
  9. +7
    25 June 2016 08: 49
    Some kind of clownery ... Why, then, is a referendum needed if it can be "replayed" right there ?!
    1. 0
      25 June 2016 08: 53
      Quote: excomandante
      Some kind of clownery ... Why, then, is a referendum needed if it can be "replayed" right there ?!

      Chess respected .... There is a game!
    2. +1
      25 June 2016 08: 53
      Quote: excomandante
      Why do we need a referendum then, if it can be "replayed" right there ?!

      To create the appearance of democracy so that it can be replayed until the desired result is obtained. Yes
    3. 0
      25 June 2016 08: 55
      So for this purpose, it was necessary to show by example what would happen in the event of an exit, now in England even those who were for the exit would think a hundred times.
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    5. +1
      25 June 2016 09: 08
      Quote: excomandante
      Some kind of clownery ... Why, then, is a referendum needed if it can be "replayed" right there ?!

      belay belay so after all, DEMOCRACY !!! understand time already laughing
  10. +1
    25 June 2016 08: 52
    Yes, let them accept the Turks and ukroinu, then the Eskaput will be 1000 percent because the beggar's territory will quickly fall in love with its groans "give pennies", and the Turks will overwhelm the EU with migrants, and if they will not give the Turks a trillion euros "to contain migrants"!
  11. +2
    25 June 2016 08: 57
    Austria, Hungary, Netherlands, Finland and France

    God help you. What is interesting is that as a result of this event, the roof went not from the EU, but from our ministers. It is enough to listen to Ulyukayev alone to come to the conclusion that the Russian economy was completely tied to the unity of the EU. In the flesh to the point that he reassured the Russians: "Britain's exit will not affect privatization in Russia". Can someone tell me why this was said?
  12. +3
    25 June 2016 09: 01
    Personally, I think that all these referendums regarding the political structure of the filkin are literary. For the most part, they always run counter to real business. They also voted for the preservation of the Union ... And where is the USSR? So, a screen like so that there is a tick that people asked request
    Referendums are useful when they want to change the flag, when they want to solve internal problems of a non-global nature, but they doubt it. Then yes, you can play referenda.
    And when it comes to global and international issues, the result will be the same for those who really rule the country and those who benefit from it.
    PS We held a referendum on the flag, held on the death penalty. The people chose the Soviet version of the flag and the death penalty. Here is an example of the real use of referenda
    hi
    1. 0
      25 June 2016 10: 06
      Yes, yes, it’s for sure that in the referenda the people chose what they needed and chose
    2. +1
      25 June 2016 13: 39
      Not certainly in that way. The referendum for the British is one story. They have democracy for their citizens.
      And democracy in Russia is not for Russian citizens, but the power of the democratic West.
      Therefore, the results of Russian referenda are not mandatory for the Russian government. They were planted there to fulfill the will of the owners, and they neglect the will of the people, this is their attitude.
      This is a feature of Western democracy.
  13. 0
    25 June 2016 09: 03
    A grain of doubt, once sown, will certainly grow, the main thing is to feed him with thoughts about him. Therefore, the UK will remain in the EU or not, this is the second question, the main thing is that they did (whether they wanted it or not) they pulled a stone from the EU foundation. Now you have to wait, who else wants to pull out the pebbles, and they will sort it out slowly.
  14. UVB
    +1
    25 June 2016 09: 05
    A wonderful chance appeared at the Ruins to become an EU member by 2020. However, by that time only Poland and Estonia would remain in the EU. A joke, of course, but there is a share in every joke ...
  15. +6
    25 June 2016 09: 16
    Brussels scratches turnips - their pissing boy crap one's pants ...
  16. +1
    25 June 2016 09: 17
    It only says that the problems as a result of the merger became not less, but more! Including refugees added fuel to the fire. Projects of associations are fine, but far from reality.
  17. +2
    25 June 2016 09: 17
    This is only the first part, even an overture to the big and tedious performance that takes place in the vastness of the EU. We must be patient ...
  18. +3
    25 June 2016 09: 25
    Do not flatter yourself. Chitozady will come up with a scheme in which the shaves formally leave the EU but remain at their own
    1. +2
      25 June 2016 10: 47
      Quote: Ivan Ivanovich
      Chitozady will come up with a scheme in which the shaves formally leave the EU but remain at their own

      This is just as Cameron recently negotiated with Brussels the special conditions for Britain to be in the EU.
    2. 0
      25 June 2016 10: 47
      Quote: Ivan Ivanovich
      Chitozady will come up with a scheme in which the shaves formally leave the EU but remain at their own

      This is just as Cameron recently negotiated with Brussels the special conditions for Britain to be in the EU.
  19. +1
    25 June 2016 09: 59
    Surely the EU is now coming up with draconian rules for those who want to leave, the UK exit may be stretched for 7 years.
  20. +4
    25 June 2016 10: 12
    The European Union - Ukraine: "Well, what are you so eager to enter, when not everyone has left yet?"
  21. +3
    25 June 2016 10: 20
    The question of exit from the EU can be raised in five more countries

    Serpentarium is slowly spreading
  22. +1
    25 June 2016 10: 25
    The EU has presented a huge field for psychiatrists for a long time.
  23. +1
    25 June 2016 11: 52
    And who wants to hunt besides Psheks, tribals and Ukrainians, under American authority. There even the Bulgarians began to fuss.
  24. 0
    25 June 2016 12: 29
    The process has begun ..... what will end interestingly? It seems to me nothing. This is not beneficial for international corporations. They put the idea to the root, make a laughing stock and a mustache, the end of the kin.
  25. +1
    26 June 2016 00: 22
    And how are the results of referenda implemented in Holland and the USSR? Quite the opposite. The British people may also be wrong.
    Perhaps we are talking about the death of the monarchy. Or maybe just Soros earned.

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