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Russians and Ukrainians: will we become brothers again

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Russians and Ukrainians: will we become brothers again



Relations between the fraternal Ukrainian and Russian peoples continue to heat up, and the Kiev politicians are doing everything possible so that the enmity between us only intensifies. The President of Ukraine endlessly speaks of the “Kremlin aggression” and the fact that Russia is incompatible with the “European choice.” And although I refuse to believe that the famous poems of the Ukrainian poetess turned out to be prophetic, I am still tormented by the questions: will we become brothers again? Will we forgive the indiscriminate accusations of aggression, the extermination of everything Russian, the worship of the fascists and their modern followers? Or should we forget the centuries-old friendship and everything that connected us with our neighbors?

There are really noticeable differences between the two countries in the end. Ukrainians consider themselves Europeans, but deprive people of their right to freedom of speech. It is in “totalitarian Moscow” foreign agents and simply ideological enemies speak freely on television, and in Ukraine any word against the current government is fraught with consequences. I want to remind you that all dissenters are, at best, imprisoned as journalist Ruslan Kotsab, at worst they are burned in the House of Trade Unions in Odessa.

What can we talk about when a person who tried to reconcile the Russians and Ukrainians was shot? And it does not matter who is behind the murder of the writer Oles Buziny: power or a patriot fanatic.

Therefore, the main thing to understand is that the Ukrainian political class does not want peace with Russia. And even if we again solve their economic problems, return the duty-free trade zone and the gas discount, miraculously correct all the mistakes made by the Kiev authorities in recent years - they will still hate us.

Put the question differently. Where does this hate come from? Why did they betray us during the war of Peter and the Swedes, when a year before the battle of Poltava Mazepa went over to Karl with three thousand Cossacks?

For what reason, the Ukrainians went over to the side of Hitler during the Second World War?

And finally, why are they doing this to us today?

Of course, not all the people of Ukraine are enemies who want our country to collapse. If desired, they can be divided into three groups: the erring, the loyal, and the “mazepas.”

With the first, everything is clear: the near victims of aggressive propaganda, believing what the media impose. And even those who proudly declare: "I do not watch TV," - may be among them. For example, because the brainwashing in the network is conducted even more actively than by the “zomboyaschiku”. Thousands of fake profiles, pseudo-independent, like Ukraine itself, groups and pages are inspired by the same as official Kiev, only more intelligible: a meme about “fried Colorado” just from there.

Such people are distinguished by the almost complete absence of critical thinking and a low educational level; these are children of new Ukraine with its degraded economy and culture.

However, the lost ones are not the most dangerous kind. Their minds are childishly plastic, and they can change their views - true, only if the power of “Square” changes, or (unlikely) official rhetoric.

The other type is loyal. These are “our people”, no matter how long they live within Ukraine and no matter how thoroughly they rinse their brains. They preserve the common Russian identity, regardless of nationality or denomination. Most of them studied in Soviet schools and universities (the Donbas uprising is not without reason called the “revolution of forty”). True, due to natural causes, this layer shrinks every year.

The third type - "Mazepa", the eternal traitors. Although is it possible to call traitors those who never swore allegiance to us? Most often they come from western regions (for some reason, however, preferring to move from their native Lviv to Kiev or Kharkov). Intellectually savvy among them, too little. They think they know history (Of course, in his, "correct" version). They say “move” or surzhik, although, when necessary, they also recall the language of Pushkin, reading with pleasure in our liberal blogs and media essays about the horrors of the “bloody regime” and pouring mud at Russia in comments.

Their ideal leader is a nationalist, Russophobe, preferably with an unstable psyche and sadistic inclinations. It is useless to talk with them, persuade, talk about brotherly love and the common past of two nations.

Useless! Hatred of "Muscovites" in their blood.

Recently, however, there appears another, fourth type — the awakened ones. These are not taken by Kiev propaganda, since the crisis has already turned them around. They never had a special love for Moscow during the Maidan, when the crowd in the squares looked more like a fun festival, waved flags, chanted “Glory to Ukraine!” And sincerely dreamed of a better life.

After more than two years, they woke up, and their bills for electricity, gas and other attributes of the “European choice” brought them to their senses. Among my friends there are such characters. They no longer talk about politics, but prefer not to admit that they were wrong. Just quietly reap the benefits of their own naivety.

With the awakened dialogue is possible. It is possible that in the future they will join the ranks of the loyal. With “Mazepa”, as I said, there is no chance.

The analogy with weight loss is relevant here. There is such a term in weight loss - "plateau effect", when, despite the diet and exercise, the weight stops to decline. This happens because first of all the kilograms we have acquired over the past few years are leaving, and the fat deposits earned long ago remain. In other words - the hatred of Ukrainians, acquired over the past two years, will pass.

With centuries of anger, as in the case of "Mazepa", everything is much more complicated. Maybe in the matter of losing weight, I am not an expert (here I need to turn to Savchenko for advice), but I know one thing for sure - we have not ceased to be brothers. There are many bright pages in our common history, and when you are doubted whether the friendship of our peoples will revive again, remember that in the Battle of Poltava there was not only antihero Mazepa, but also Hetman Ivan Skoropadsky with his Cossack battalion and thousands of ordinary Little Russians who fought for Russia's future.

Remember the Ukrainian participants in the Great Patriotic War: three times Hero of the Soviet Union - Ivan Nikitovich Kozhedub, who shot down 64 fascist aircraft. Or Mikhail Iosifovich Ocheret, who threw himself under the tracks of an enemy tank in a victorious battle on the outskirts of Berlin.

Thousands of Ukrainians fought side by side with the Russians and sacrificed their lives for our future. We must remember about such Ukrainians. And for those for whom the heroes are executioners and traitors, we should not waste time, because we have never been and will not be brothers with them.
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  1. Andreitas
    Andreitas 24 June 2016 21: 47
    +29
    To start a friendship, you must first burn with a hot iron the Kiev junta.
    1. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 24 June 2016 21: 56
      +3
      Everything is fun there ..))))
      1. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 24 June 2016 22: 28
        +53
        I can hardly imagine even a handshake with an individual whose blood is dripping from the hands of old people, women and children of Donbass! On the proposal to call "this" brother - I can not resist. How long it takes for this to pass, I don't know, my life is definitely not enough, but let the children and grandchildren decide for themselves whether they need it at all! hi
        1. just exp
          just exp 25 June 2016 00: 05
          +12
          the same cuisine, Ukrainians for me are brothers, Svidomites (and by nationality they can be Ukrainians, Russians, Jews, and even heaps of nations) deleted themselves from the list of people. it is non-animal.
          1. Nonna
            Nonna 25 June 2016 05: 32
            +14
            Letter to Russians and Ukrainians

            Brothers! I see how the enemies, having divided our people, are preparing for him a great war. And my people are not Russian and not Ukrainian. My people are one. And I don’t want to know another. Like a person, if he does not have an arm or leg is considered a cripple, so is a divided people.
            We Russian, Ukrainians, Belarusians bequeathed to be together. And the fact that today we are crazy and hate each other, the main accusation against us - we have broken this covenant.
            What were we missing, brothers? Of the earth? There is how much land we have. Of freedom? So, by killing each other we became freer? Or maybe we wanted a good life? Jam barrels and cookie baskets? So has it really become more expensive than a sibling?
            So, I think we just don’t have enough love for our brother. We forgot what holiness of kinship is. And therefore, strangers come to us and become the first in our house. Now, these strangers, whom we have believed more than our own, are urging us, and under their crafty speeches about the greatness of the Russian and Ukrainian people, we are killing each other.
            I am writing this letter with pain about my people. I, an Orthodox Cossack, was forced to defend my land against my own brothers in faith. Is it possible to come up with a meaner one? Today it is clearly seen that it was no longer the militia that clashed with the Ukrainian army, but the divided Orthodox people rose against each other.
            This became possible because in 1991 we lost our common homeland - the Soviet Union. Then the enemies destroyed the state, and today they crush and bleed parts of it. We have nothing left, neither our culture, nor education, nor our mines and factories. But this is not so bad. The main thing that we lost is our brothers. Now they easily inspire us, and we believe that Ukrainians are slaves of the West, and Russians are aggressors and invaders.
            We have been slandered and robbed, only a common dream remains - a fair state. Ukrainians have about great Ukraine, Russians have about great Russia. But in essence this is one big dream of a divided people, yearning for 25 years in their homeland. Not about the state of oligarchs and traitors, which are the Moscow and Kiev colonies, but about our single Slavic state. And it doesn’t matter to me what it will be called - Kievan Rus, Muscovite Rus, Novorossiya, the main thing is that it will be New Russia, our common home.
            In the meantime, we kill each other, and our executioners almost openly push us to kill. They mock us on Russian and Ukrainian television, either insulting the Ukrainian people and calling them fascists, or insulting the Russian people and calling them invaders. From the “objective Russian media” you will not hear words of sympathy for the Ukrainians in trouble. They will not say who plunged a whole nation into a spiritual catastrophe. And the Russians themselves no longer hear their brothers. They, like the Ukrainians, were euthanized with a “patriotic” lie about their own greatness, they kindled petty national pride and arrogance. The main thing that the media is busy with is not to awaken good feelings between our peoples.
            How humiliated we are, brothers, insulting each other! Are we so blind that we do not see real enemies? And what did they do on the land of Ukraine? What the Jewish Nazis who seized power do is striking in its thoughtful malice and hatred of our people. They not only destroy villages and cities of Donbass. Here they destroy the army of Ukraine, grinding it in boilers and senseless attacks. Their doctors, their sanitary brigades are dismantled into parts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and civilians of Donbass, collecting here rich production from human organs that flow to Israel, Europe and the USA. They are already openly declaring that they are building New Israel in Ukraine. And they are doing this together with the Russian oligarchy, whose special services are shooting down independent militia commanders here. And we all fight each other.
            http://via-midgard.info/news/article/dnevnikovye-zapisi-i-poslednee-obrashhenie.

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            1. sherp2015
              sherp2015 25 June 2016 10: 48
              +4
              Quote: Nonna
              Are we so blind that we do not see real enemies? And what did they do on the land of Ukraine? What the Jewish Nazis who seized power do is striking in its thoughtful malice and hatred of our people. They not only destroy villages and cities of Donbass. Here they destroy the army of Ukraine, grinding it in boilers and senseless attacks. Their doctors, their sanitary brigades are dismantled into parts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and civilians of Donbass, collecting here rich production from human organs that flow to Israel, Europe and the USA. They are already openly declaring that they are building New Israel in Ukraine. And they are doing this together with the Russian oligarchy, whose special services are shooting down independent militia commanders here. And we all fight each other.
              //via-midgard.info/news/article/dnevnikovye-zapisi-i-poslednee-obrashhenie.

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              BRAIN COMBRIG



              I HAVE NO WORDS!
            2. Karasik
              Karasik 26 June 2016 00: 39
              +3
              Quote: Nonna
              Letter to Russians and Ukrainians

              Dear Alexander! The post you posted impressed me! This is exactly what excites my soul! I put you a "+", if I could, I would put a hundred more pluses! According to the classification of the author of the article, I am "loyal", somehow it sounds weak, what does "loyal" mean? The main problem is that there is no leader, and if he appears, all the "loyal" ones will become soldiers uniting fraternal peoples! I am Russian "Ukrainian". And I bring up my children correctly! Yes, they go to a Ukrainian school, yes, they listen to absolute nonsense in history lessons (and besides, they have to take exams about this nonsense!). BUT!!! The most important upbringing in the family! If I give a CORRECT political information to a child - what a hellish teacher will convince him! Dad said, and dad is more authority! This is what I hope for. Losing the next generation is a crime !!! against the Russian world!
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        2. sl22277
          sl22277 25 June 2016 04: 15
          +28
          "Russia, stop being carried on by the" fraternal people. " “Brotherly people” were invented by crooks so as not to repay debts, ”it sounds very timely, especially with respect to some of Russia's“ allies. ”The concept of“ brotherly people ”for a Ukrainian patriot is something like a sucker who can be bred and milked for years, and then shoot, as the opportunity arises.
          But more tongue twisters about the "brotherly people" will not help. And do not hope. You can’t get everything back in 2013. You can’t make Donbass forget how you killed children and raped women, how you looted and destroyed houses. The past is unchanging.
          And you are no longer fraternal people. I can’t even imagine what you need to do, how to repent, how to atone for guilt in order to regain this right.
          1. atakan
            atakan 25 June 2016 06: 15
            -3
            said well, we quote the truth without specifying the author)
        3. sa-ag
          sa-ag 25 June 2016 06: 46
          -3
          Quote: Major Yurik
          How long does it take for this to pass, I don’t know

          Time does not matter here, it is enough for the "brotherly people of Ukraine" to sound out of the box and the electorate will begin to look for the bonds and clamps of this brotherhood within themselves
          1. activator
            activator 25 June 2016 09: 56
            -1
            Quote: sa-ag
            Quote: Major Yurik
            How long does it take for this to pass, I don’t know

            Time does not matter here, it is enough for the "brotherly people of Ukraine" to sound out of the box and the electorate will begin to look for the bonds and clamps of this brotherhood within themselves

            Comrade sa-ag plus. good And then everyone who thunders thunder and lightning will tell that they always secretly knew and believed deep down ...
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        5. activator
          activator 25 June 2016 07: 34
          -2
          Quote: Major Yurik
          I can hardly imagine even a handshake with an individual whose blood is dripping from the hands of old people, women and children of Donbass! On the proposal to call "this" brother - I can not resist. How long it takes for this to pass, I don't know, my life is definitely not enough, but let the children and grandchildren decide for themselves whether they need it at all! hi

          And how many years have passed since Chechnya? and nothing Kadyrov forever, and even there the atrocities were worse, and to stop the bloodshed on the Donbass, Putin’s decision to recognize and accept the Donbas is required a little, but for some reason he still hasn’t done it.
          1. Mercenary
            Mercenary 25 June 2016 09: 26
            -1
            Donbass twice held referendums and never once raised the question of entry (return) to Russia. Unlike Crimea, and how Putin V.V. can take?
            1. activator
              activator 25 June 2016 09: 44
              0
              Quote: Mercenary
              Donbass twice held referendums and never once raised the question of entry (return) to Russia. Unlike Crimea, and how Putin V.V. can take?

              You are funny and naive. yes or do you really think that they themselves raised questions in a referendum?
              1. Karasik
                Karasik 26 June 2016 01: 03
                +1
                Quote: activator
                Are you a funny and naive person or do you really think that they themselves raised questions in a referendum?

                Your reasoning is absolutely correct! I agree with you. Did the residents of Donbass really want to live on some kind of "stub" called DNLR ?! NO! They wanted to live in Great Russia, and the Crimean precedent gave them a false chance! They threw them, they threw them like suckers! They wanted to join Russia by the whole region, like the Crimea - to hell with it! Get War!
                You are "minus" for an opinion different from the opinion of the visitors of this site. And I am your like-minded person! I am ready to grab the "minuses" put to me together with you.
                Respect to you and Respect!
        6. OlegV
          OlegV 25 June 2016 09: 09
          0
          then I came across my eyes ....
    2. self-propelled
      self-propelled 24 June 2016 22: 06
      +5
      Quote: Andreitas
      To start a friendship, you must first burn with a hot iron the Kiev junta.

      I think this is not the case in the Kiev junta. Against the background of all the chaos that has been going on in Ukraine for the last two years, everything that used to wander in family conversations at the table, in conversations at work and just in their heads has surfaced (just like that). but everyone had different things (I mean opinions and views on their future, with whom and where to go ...). and now we have what we have (namely, different views on our path within the borders of one country). and burning out the "wrong" opinion and outlook on one's future with a hot iron is not an option (because this will lead to many deaths. We are now seeing a similar attempt to burn out in the Donbass). the way out, as for me, is to go each his own way - some to the West to Europe, some to the East to Russia. and everyone has the right to do so. just do not need to turn the right to freedom of choice into a war. THIS IS SCARY!
      1. PKK
        PKK 25 June 2016 04: 22
        +1
        Ukrainian hatred is the result of a deliberate policy of the US country elite. The goal is to destroy the people. Hatred has a defeat radius, it does not give birth to children, all living things die out. The Universe destroys the carriers of hatred, they are the same as Death. Peace and Brotherhood will appear when the haters turn over and become Humans again. All this is a science and for our people who have enough hatred among themselves. We need to get rid of it.
      2. Karasik
        Karasik 26 June 2016 01: 30
        +2
        Quote: self-propelled
        ... everything that used to roam in family conversations at the table, in conversations at work and just in the head. but everyone’s different surfaced (I mean opinions and views on their future, with whom and where to go ...)

        Maybe in the "Zapadenshchina" there were such conversations in the family, only among us, Odessa citizens, they were not "popular". Let us, gentlemen, summarize the preliminary result. Did you manage to play off the two fraternal peoples? Undoubtedly succeeded! People who speak the same language, have a common religion and are related by family ties are shooting at each other! Wow! What could be "better" ?! A clear victory for American politics!
        When will we change our minds ?! Where is morality? Where the children of Donbass are called "Colorado larvae", or where all Ukrainian citizens are called "Ukrainians"?
    3. Dam
      Dam 24 June 2016 22: 22
      +20
      Perhaps they will consider me an anti-Semite, but ... And who has power in 404, who is this fucking junta. Well, tell me what is his name?
      1. Koshak
        Koshak 25 June 2016 06: 05
        +2
        Quote: Damm
        Well, tell me what is his name?

        Whatever is written down in their documents, but in fact = bastards.
    4. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 24 June 2016 22: 56
      +7
      It is better to love such "relatives" from afar, it is more honest and less costly, because you can only go into the same water once, but you can plunge into it many times. I don't want someone else's shit to stink from me. First, let them wash off the blood of the innocent victims first.
    5. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 24 June 2016 22: 59
      +5
      To be honest, I think not earlier than in two generations. When the war ends (I would like to sooner, but not likely), when the people who fought in this war die, when their grandchildren grow up, perhaps something will change in relations between the peoples of Russia and Ukraine. But, "Crimean and Donbass wounds" will hardly ever heal completely and stop bleeding in the hearts of the people of Ukraine. So far, unfortunately, the tendency for rapprochement is not visible. Although, as before, many Ukrainians work in Russia, they are far from the same number as before. I do not want to start a dispute now about who is a fascist and who is an anti-fascist and who is to blame for what. But fact is fact. Ukrainians have stopped communicating with Russians and have stopped going to Russia, they consider Russians enemies .. The same can be said about Russians regarding their attitude towards Ukrainians.
      1. Karasik
        Karasik 26 June 2016 02: 01
        +2
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        But fact is fact. Ukrainians have ceased to communicate with the Russians and travel to Russia, consider the Russians as enemies ..

        Dear friend, I have just returned from an entertaining tour of Russia. I, a citizen of Ukraine, drove my car (with Ukrainian license plates) to many cities in Russia and showed my children the sights. It was something like one of the elements of CORRECT upbringing. The trip turned out to be expensive for my family's budget, but still I was able to digest it. The main thing that I wanted to show to my children, and what I wanted to be convinced of myself: Nowhere did I notice any "special" attitude towards myself on the part of Russians. He visited the following Russian cities: Sevastopol, Novocherkassk, Voronezh, Moscow. Well, in general, I visited all my relatives and introduced my children to relatives and Russian culture. Unfortunately, I cannot say that Russians who decide to go to Ukraine will be treated normally. BROTHERS! Do not travel across Ukraine in cars with Russian plates! There are a lot of normal people, but there are enough scumbags! I really hope that this is a temporary phenomenon.
    6. Lukich
      Lukich 24 June 2016 23: 00
      -2
      Quote: Andreitas
      To start a friendship, you must first burn with a hot iron the Kiev junta.

      you can’t fix these
      The war in the Donbass and strained relations between Russia and Ukraine will end when a peace treaty is signed between these countries, according to which Russia will promise not to attack, and Ukraine will commit itself not to take Moscow. This was broadcast on UkrLife TV by Viktor Nebozhenko, close to Yulia Tymoshenko.

      Nebozhenko stressed that Ukraine would violate this agreement.

      “No Minsk Treaty-1, 2, or even 16 will work out until we conclude a peace treaty with Russia. Where it will be written: “Russia undertakes the next 100 years not to attack Ukraine and not to violate its territorial integrity”, and the lands will return. The point on the part of Ukraine is “Ukraine undertakes in the next 15 years during the time of turmoil, revolution and a change of power not to interfere in the internal affairs of Russia.” That is, not to capture Moscow, not to help liberal figures, and so on ... We promise to abandon the fulfillment of the historical mission, just leave faster and let's go back to the borders. But we, of course, will violate it later, but this is another matter, ”Nebozhenko said.
      1. EvgNik
        EvgNik 25 June 2016 04: 58
        +2
        Quote: Lukich
        you can’t fix these

        Lukich, and most of them have Russian surnames. And what to do with it?
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 25 June 2016 08: 19
          +7
          Quote: EvgNik
          Lukich, and most of them have Russian surnames. And what to do with it?

          and a surname at what ??? surname kills, rapes, robs ??? what is the real surname of parashenko ??? or recall an old joke?
          - what's the last name?
          sugar
          more precisely
          -sakharevich
          more precisely
          Zuckerman
    7. slavinsk
      slavinsk 24 June 2016 23: 07
      -26%
      The actions of the Kiev and St. Petersburg junta clearly contradict common sense.
      1. SeregaBoss
        SeregaBoss 24 June 2016 23: 23
        +12
        Excuse me, but where does the St. Petersburg junta rule? My common sense doesn't "catch up".
      2. poquello
        poquello 24 June 2016 23: 41
        +19
        Quote: slavinsk
        Actions of Kiev and Petersburg junta clearly contrary to common sense.

        you feel the little head rickety ukromi, the junta - a group illegally seized power and established the dictatorship and terror of its citizens, well, at least dine well, no, this is not in Russia
        1. iliitchitch
          iliitchitch 25 June 2016 00: 03
          +5
          Quote: poquello
          Petersburg junta


          What are we carrying, huh? People keep the Planet, and you scream, you scumbag, God forgive me. The junta of St. Petersburg - but what is the JUNTA PETERSKAYA to blame, explain to me, the Sobchak organisms of the Jews. What does not explain in any way? The fifth point of the heel is running out, not otherwise. Beat organisms are reluctant. Let them breathe for now. Useful. We’ll fly again.
          1. poquello
            poquello 25 June 2016 00: 26
            0
            Quote: iliitch
            JUNTA PETERSKAYA

            Quote: iliitch
            What are we carrying, huh?
      3. kolobok63
        kolobok63 25 June 2016 04: 52
        +2
        Whose Cossack will you be? hi 404 long time ago was not!
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    9. siberalt
      siberalt 25 June 2016 05: 33
      +3
      Under liberal systems, friendship, at best, is replaced by tolerance.
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 25 June 2016 09: 14
        +4
        But what do minusculers wait for when they are cheated that under capitalism there can be no friendship of peoples? Man - man is a wolf and nothing personal.
    10. Alekseev
      Alekseev 25 June 2016 08: 48
      +4
      Quote: Andreitas
      must first burn with a hot iron

      That's for sure!
      Without "neutralizing" the Svidomo asset, nothing will come of it.
      People say, brotherly people, etc.
      But the people in general are a loose and non-specific concept.
      Another comrade A.S. Pushkin described impartially, but essentially true about a significant part of the people of the Moscow state:
      "But you know yourself: meaningless rabble
      Changeable, rebellious, superstitious,
      Easily empty hope betrayed,
      To instant suggestion is obedient,
      For the truth is deaf and indifferent,
      And she feeds on fables. "
      The people at the will of their "elites" destroyed each other by the millions in the 1st World War, in the 2nd too. In numerous revolutions, etc.
      So the classic was right; "And the people are not complete without me."
      We need to make every effort to destroy the harmful asset and the emergence of ours. And many of the lost hulks can be denazified, they are "obedient to instant suggestion."
      Unfortunately, the Bandera asset cannot be "neutralized" by a completely peaceful means. To begin with, the defeat of the so-called ATO in Donbass is necessary. Without him, things are unlikely to go well.
    11. marlin1203
      marlin1203 25 June 2016 10: 24
      +3
      Instead of milking both Russia and the EU with the usual Little Russian cunning game, they stepped and lost a feeding trough both here and there ... That’s raging!
    12. iouris
      iouris 25 June 2016 17: 35
      0
      It's not about "brotherhood" - "here they throw at us."
      Ukraine and the Russian Federation are two parts of a divided country that needs unification.
      The oligarch and the proletarian, the individuals who are separated by private property or the struggle for the remaining piece of hlib (already without lard and gorilka) will never become brothers.
      Alle Menschen werden Brueder ... (All people will become brothers ..)
      This is the beginning of Beethoven's Symphony No. 9, which is dedicated to the unification of continental Europe by Napoleon and is the anthem of the EU. The very one that Hitler created for a short time, which was recreated after the destruction of the USSR from the inside.
      The EU is an alliance of individuals for our common piece of bread.
  2. KBR109
    KBR109 24 June 2016 21: 52
    +7
    Why become brothers? Neighbors. The conversation will be more civilized, simple and understandable.
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 24 June 2016 22: 01
      +6
      Quote: KBR109
      Why become brothers? Neighbors. The conversation will be more civilized, simple and understandable.

      and it won't. there "mazep" for 21 years have grown so much ... hatred for us is already in the blood. I was told that already in schools, children are inculcated with hatred of Russia, Russians, and everything Russian
      1. KBR109
        KBR109 24 June 2016 22: 13
        +3
        To abandon a neighbor on the planet is either to destroy him as a state, or to leave himself. What do you suggest?
        1. iliitchitch
          iliitchitch 25 June 2016 18: 31
          0
          It’s good for these scoundrels to kill people on the turnips to the youngest one without steaming.
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 24 June 2016 22: 22
      +16
      . Russians and Ukrainians: will we become brothers again

      I personally joining Putin’s words that he doesn’t make any difference between Ukrainians and Russians, that this is ONE divided people! Therefore, what kind of brothers are we talking about? There have never been any Ukrainians! All this is fiction! These are the same Russian as you and me, who for some reason called themselves Ukrainians. These are Little Russians. Over time, all the foam will disappear, and I’m sure that our roads will intersect again, as has happened more than once in history.
      1. berezin1987
        berezin1987 24 June 2016 22: 32
        +15
        But why do Russia need them after everything has come? Russia must lure Russians from the former Soviet republics and people who relate to the Russian world. And it is necessary to squeeze out persons of an anti-Russian orientation outside the country, and to destroy the outright enemies of the people and the state. After that, you can safely close the borders with ex-brothers and wall off like a usa with Mexico.
        1. self-propelled
          self-propelled 24 June 2016 23: 25
          +1
          Quote: berezin1987
          But why do Russia need them after everything has come? Russia must lure Russians from the former Soviet republics and people who relate to the Russian world.

          an excellent phrase (more precisely a slogan). that's just a question - 10-12 million Russians (or are very close to those to their liking) from today's Ukraine where to define in Russia? or Russia currently has the opportunity to settle such a number of people in even more or less normal housing, provide them with work, etc. etc.? and to go to an open field, don `t know where not many will agree. and these people will not go, not because they are non-Russians or do not like the Russian world (they just realized in the last two years what was happening and, probably, the closest to the Russian world), but for a slightly different reason. just ask yourself a question - are you personally ready to change a bad life for a life who knows where and for what? 2/3 of Donetsk residents who left in the first months of the war (ATO) returned back, despite the far from "velvet" living conditions in Donbass. did not think why?
          1. berezin1987
            berezin1987 24 June 2016 23: 37
            +9
            It is necessary to create conditions for moving to Russia. The territory is huge, but few people. Can 10 million Russians be superfluous when there is so much to do? It is necessary to carry out a strict selection of candidates for resettlement, pay lifting, provide housing without the right to privatization. How else? Or is my hut better off the edge and it's not my problem? And any garbage, on the contrary, would be good to deprive of citizenship and expel a kick in the ass to the little brothers.
            1. self-propelled
              self-propelled 24 June 2016 23: 49
              0
              Quote: berezin1987
              It is necessary to create conditions for moving to Russia. The territory is huge, but few people

              what is needed is not a question. long been necessary. only who and how will create these conditions (after all, we live in the real world, not the virtual one)
              Quote: berezin1987
              Can 10 million Russians be superfluous when there is so much to do?

              and 20 million, and 50 million Russians will not be superfluous. perhaps among them there is also Pushkin, and Lomonosov, and Mendeleev ...
              Quote: berezin1987
              It is necessary to carry out a strict selection of candidates for resettlement, pay lifting, provide housing without the right to privatization

              again, who will carry out all these selections? by what criteria? how much time and money will it take to create and debug the operation of such a system? how much money is needed just for "lifting" for the migrants?
              aren't there more questions than answers?
              1. berezin1987
                berezin1987 25 June 2016 00: 13
                +3
                It is necessary to adopt foreign experience in this matter, but it is still necessary to do this. The United States generally rose on foreign brains and arms. Turks rebuilt Germany after the war. What prevents Russia from accepting Russians in the spirit and culture of people? Many of them have demanded professions and took place as an individual.
          2. kolobok63
            kolobok63 25 June 2016 05: 01
            -1
            It’s just that RUSSIAN is good, then Khokhl-SHVAH !!! hi
          3. Essex62
            Essex62 25 June 2016 09: 03
            +4
            Exactly. Until wild, hateful capitalism is liquidated in Russia, until we destroy the power of the huckster oligarchs, put the working man and the principles of social justice at the forefront, Russia will not be attractive to Russian people who find themselves abroad.
            1. atalef
              atalef 25 June 2016 09: 05
              0
              Quote: Essex62
              do not put at the forefront a working person

              collective farmer and creative intelligentsia laughing
              Quote: Essex62
              principles of social justice, Russia will not be attractive to Russian people who find themselves abroad.

              By the way, I note the same capitalism in Europe.
              Yes, in Sweden, Switzerland, Monaco and Luxembourg hi
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        2. iliitchitch
          iliitchitch 26 June 2016 16: 05
          0
          Quote: berezin1987
          Russia must lure Russians from the former Soviet republics ...


          Touches me - Russia MUST. Dumplings were stolen from one parasite, and jam from another.
          Yes, we don’t stick anything to anyone, if you have an inferiority complex - so deal with it yourself, what BETTER something to us ??? What do you want from us? And to have a freebie, well this is sacred for all the Soviet Republics.
      2. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 24 June 2016 23: 05
        +5
        Quote: Stas157
        There have never been any Ukrainians!
        Yeah, there were Little Russians.
        Quote: Stas157
        These are the same Russian as you and me, who for some reason called themselves Ukrainians
        They’re not the same Russians, it’s, as it were, to put it mildly, I’ll go out. People who voluntarily abandoned their national identity.
        Quote: Stas157
        I’m sure that our roads will cross again, as has happened more than once in history
        Will intersect. And after a while we will again become "damned Muscovites" for them. If we do not jointly destroy the nasty and infectious virus of "Ukrainians". In some and severe cases - together with carriers.
        1. poquello
          poquello 24 June 2016 23: 53
          +2
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          They’re not the same Russians, it’s, as it were, to put it mildly, I’ll go out. People who voluntarily abandoned their national identity.

          and who are you talking about? about the guys who are beaten for denying dill, or about mom and daughter whose St. George ribbon was torn, or about Russian servants of dill - there are some
      3. kolobok63
        kolobok63 25 June 2016 04: 58
        -1
        Anything but that! am She died, she died! hi a nation of traitors!
      4. EvgNik
        EvgNik 25 June 2016 05: 02
        -1
        Quote: Stas157
        I’m sure that our roads will cross again, as has happened more than once in history.

        At what level? Betrayal again?
      5. atakan
        atakan 25 June 2016 06: 22
        +3
        Now only take it back in parts. (
        Twice they were burned by statehood and independence. Mazepas there are stably grown.
        Since politics from Russia was often represented there by the "Chernomyrdins" and they did not have cookies.
      6. warwer
        warwer 25 June 2016 07: 41
        -1
        Well, take over what the brothers have done. I agree - get it.
      7. NEXUS
        NEXUS 25 June 2016 11: 26
        +2
        Quote: Stas157
        I personally joining Putin’s words that he doesn’t make any difference between Ukrainians and Russians, that this is ONE divided people! Therefore, what kind of brothers are we talking about? There have never been any Ukrainians! All this is fiction! These are the same Russian as you and me, who for some reason called themselves Ukrainians. These are Little Russians. Over time, all the foam will disappear, and I’m sure that our roads will intersect again, as has happened more than once in history.

        In fact, now it’s already clear where everything will come in time. And everything will come to the revival of the USSR (the name of course will be different. Now it is called the customs union). And the core of this union has always been and will be three Russian states - White, Small and Great Russia .This is a story that, if not rewritten, will find the way to the truth sooner or later.
        As for the Little Russians, for twenty-five years they have been persuaded for a long time and stubbornly that they are no part of Russia, and this has had its effect. But I’m sure that sanity and kinship at the genetic level will put everything in its place. The Kiev junta is a disease itself, and after all, the symptoms manifested themselves long before this disease itself. And any doctor will say that the disease is useless to treat, it is necessary to eliminate the symptoms. Only in this case the patient will be cured.
  3. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 24 June 2016 21: 53
    0
    And practice shows that not only Russia, but also Switzerland, Iceland and small Britain are also not very compatible with the "European choice." And how to live?
  4. Barakuda
    Barakuda 24 June 2016 21: 54
    +8
    First you need, as in Singapore - ALL, without exception, current deputies, ministers, prosecutors, judges in jail ... who is lucky to be fired for life.
    But this first step is unrealizable. so that the strap will stretch even with our grandchildren .. sad
  5. Ihrek
    Ihrek 24 June 2016 21: 54
    +22
    I think Ukraine has passed the point of no return on the issue of friendship with Russia, especially brotherhood. Having such brothers and enemies is not necessary. Having Ukraine among brothers means wearing a poisonous snake under your bosom. We must face the truth - they were never our brothers and never will be. Yes, let normal Ukrainians not take offense at me - which in Ukraine is not more than 10 percent, or even less. I say this with pain, because I would very much like Ukraine to be truly fraternal for Russia, but alas, I repeat, it is not worth building illusions about this, and we must honestly admit it. This is a real enemy who sleeps and sees as if to raze Russia to the ground, and destroy all "Muscovites".
    1. atalef
      atalef 25 June 2016 09: 13
      -3
      Quote: Jamal1974
      I think Ukraine has passed the point of no return on the issue of friendship with Russia, especially brotherhood

      Why? In the Second World War, they fought with the Germans, and years through 20 - everything was already on the ointment.
      It all depends on leaders and propaganda.
      Quote: Jamal1974
      Having Ukraine as a brother means wearing a poisonous snake under your bosom.

      In fact, they will say the same and to a large extent be right. Somehow Ukrainian militias did not come to Russia and they did not squeeze out a piece of land fraternally.
      Quote: Jamal1974
      t. Yes, let normal Ukrainians not be offended by me - of which percent in Ukraine is no more than 10, or even less.

      Well, of course, Jamalu, you know how many normal people are in Ukraine - have you ever been to Ukraine?
      Quote: Jamal1974
      I say this with pain, because I would really like Ukraine to be truly fraternal for Russia

      Friendship implies the existence of at least 2's honesty and equality - is Russia ready for such a relationship?
      Quote: Jamal1974
      This is a real enemy who sleeps and sees as if to raze Russia to the ground, and destroy all "Muscovites".

      Well yes. Ukraine is equalizing Russia and still dreaming.
      Actually, from my many trips to Ukraine, I have never heard such a thing, leave us alone - I heard, but to go with tanks to Moscow - no.
      1. kotvov
        kotvov 25 June 2016 13: 25
        +3
        . Somehow Ukrainian militias didn’t come to Russia and they didn’t squeeze out a piece of land fraternally.
        who-who, and you were silent for a while. to remind you how much zemstvos you squeezed out of the Palestinians? we returned yours and notice it together with people. well, what can you take from our former
      2. Ihrek
        Ihrek 25 June 2016 18: 48
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        Why? In the Second World War, they fought with the Germans, and years through 20 - everything was already on the ointment.
        It all depends on leaders and propaganda.

        Apparently, the ancestors of those who live in southeastern Ukraine and the ancestors of those 10 percent of whom I spoke fought in the war with the Germans, while the remaining 90 percent either fought from under the stick and deserted at any opportunity, or served in the ranks of the Bandera, Una Unso, UPA and other fascist pro-Hitler formations. On whose hands the blood of many thousands of innocent civilians. Especially went to the Poles and your brother, dear Atalef, then bish to the Jews. They did not spoil anyone, even killed babies and ripped open bellies of pregnant pregnant women. They actively helped their idol Hitler, if they hadn’t stopped, such a nation as the Jews would not exist today. Just do not claim that he was stopped by your favorite Americans. They, along with the British, pushed him to the second world war. The Americans only benefited from this, they earned war on it, while all of Europe only suffered.
      3. Ihrek
        Ihrek 25 June 2016 19: 11
        +1
        progress
        Quote: atalef
        In fact, they will say the same and to a large extent be right. Somehow Ukrainian militias did not come to Russia and they did not squeeze out a piece of land fraternally.

        Let Atalef think soberly, Russia did not squeeze anything out, a referendum was held, the results of which are known, Russia only ensured the safety of its conduct, you must agree, otherwise there would be blood and a lot. The Crimeans simply did not want to live in such a fascist state. Everything has been done in accordance with all the principles of democracy, and the result is not some 51 percent “for” 49 against, but all 90 plus. If "YOU" are committed to the principles of democracy, how can you be against this? Then either you are not a democrat or you have double standards. Russia naturally supported such a referendum.
        Quote: atalef
        Well, of course, Jamalu, you know how many normal people are in Ukraine - have you ever been to Ukraine?

        I’m not giving up my words, what is happening in Ukraine is, to put it mildly, abnormal. For what was the Maidan ?, if you remove thieves and crooks from power and put others even more hungry, it’s not normal, besides killing their citizens, Isn’t it a normal president who calls for rotting in the basements of young citizens of his country, only because their parents think differently and just want to sit at the negotiating table and take into account the interests of the Russian-speaking population of the country.
        Quote: Jamal1974
        Well yes. Ukraine is equalizing Russia and still dreaming.
        Actually, from my many trips to Ukraine, I have never heard such a thing, leave us alone - I heard, but to go with tanks to Moscow - no.

        To urge the gut to go to Moscow, the gut is thin, but they dream of going with NATO.
        1. poquello
          poquello 25 June 2016 22: 17
          +1
          Quote: Jamal1974
          To urge the gut to go to Moscow, the gut is thin, but they dream of going with NATO.

          Well, this is an atalef, as usual, nichrome does not know nichrome, does not see that he is uncomfortable, and they call on and are ready to execute all the "cotton wool" on Red Square when they win, such are battle hedgehogs - strong but light, grown by Ukrop propaganda, and about 90% of Bender's bastards - not all are in blood who jumped or jump, remember Germany after the Second World War, this country brought us incomparably more grief
  6. Observer2014
    Observer2014 24 June 2016 21: 55
    +12
    Russians and Ukrainians: will we become brothers again?

    And what is a Ukrainian in general ??? Is it a separate nation or a social enclave invented by the Germans and Lenin? If it is invented, then you yourself understand "there will be no kin." And when monuments to Lenin are laid in Ukraine, I personally laugh! As these same monuments are protected (" love ") in Russia!
    1. avt
      avt 24 June 2016 22: 20
      +8
      Quote: Observer2014
      And what is a Ukrainian in general?

      Well, actually, in fact - a border guard.
      Quote: Observer2014
      ? A separate nation or a social enclave invented by the Germans and Lenin?

      No. In general, the Poles invented and began to put these ideas on paper during the time of the emperor Sashm # 1. There was such a person surrounded by the "bald dandy" Chartorylski, it seems, that his friends and began to write gishtoria are not yet great Ukrainians, but Ukrainians. And the Germans, or rather the Austrians, already with the pedantry of a gloomy genius, began to implement it. CATEGORICALLY!
      Thousands of Ukrainians fought alongside the Russians and sacrificed their lives for our future. We must remember such Ukrainians.
      What thousands? MILLIONS! And thousands swore allegiance to Hitler and then about 40 of these shortcomings of thousands were scolded in the forests in the form of the UPA created by the Germans, which somewhere in 1944 changed their owners, simultaneously cutting out all the Germans who remained with them in the rear.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 24 June 2016 22: 24
        +2
        avt
        Thousands of Ukrainians fought alongside the Russians and sacrificed their lives for our future. We must remember such Ukrainians.

        I didn’t say that !!!
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 25 June 2016 01: 22
          +2
          And the most interesting thing. For the Russians, whose relatives are buried in Ukraine. And how would you go to the graves of your relatives in Ukraine? I am already silent about the holy holidays.; I am waiting for an answer, to my modest question.
          p / s Please do not bother with the head of the wounded "Rambo".
        2. avt
          avt 25 June 2016 07: 59
          +1
          Quote: Observer2014
          I didn’t say that !!!

          Quotes from the article, and yours all with the signature above. Again, carefully read BEFORE quoting
          Quote: avt
          . I disagree with these in the article CATEGORically!

          Well, the author of the article
          Posted by Diana Kadi
          Where does it say that Observer 2014?wassat
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 25 June 2016 11: 03
            +2
            avt hi
            Maybe I didn’t understand something. Moreover, the article came out too late. So it happens hi
  7. raivo1960
    raivo1960 24 June 2016 21: 57
    +5
    Old people said that Ukrainians have always been pr .. (Mazepami).
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 24 June 2016 22: 05
      0
      Stars of Heroes in the war from the quartermaster bought?
  8. beer-youk
    beer-youk 24 June 2016 22: 02
    +3
    Strictly speaking, we were never brothers. Lord, do not bring again to be in the same country with these impudent arrogant grabbers, which all always have something to do!
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 24 June 2016 22: 11
      +18
      Quote: beer-youk
      Lord, do not bring again to be in the same country with these impudent arrogant grabbers, which all always have something to do!
    2. KBR109
      KBR109 24 June 2016 22: 16
      +6
      I couldn’t guess at all who it is now that Russia is so strenuously stolen in official places! It turns out-Ukrainians disguised!
      1. Corsair0304
        Corsair0304 24 June 2016 22: 47
        +7
        Quote: KBR109
        I couldn’t guess at all who it is now that Russia is so strenuously stolen in official places!


        Friend. I'm working as an official now. Before that, with arms in his hands he stood for Russia. Khanty by nationality. You now for what in thieves wrote me down? Yes, my family changed to Khokhlovsky?
        1. KBR109
          KBR109 24 June 2016 22: 55
          0
          No brother - not you. That answered beer-youku. Which the Ukrainians made the last for all the troubles of Russia - not anyone else. The irony is this.
        2. kotvov
          kotvov 25 June 2016 13: 21
          +1
          . I'm working as an official now. ,,
          Well, what is there to equalize? There are people among the officials who are doing what they should, but there are stealing people in such a way that the earth is shaking. There are more possibilities, there’s zero conscience. I think these are what KBR109 had in mind.
      2. dauria
        dauria 24 June 2016 23: 09
        +4
        It turns out-Ukrainians disguised!


        good One today with a bribe of 400 thousand euros was taken by the governor of Kirov. They knit him, and he yells "Glory to Ukraine !!!"
        Or was it foolishly heard? Well, the Russian governor cannot steal. So a crest. laughing
        1. KBR109
          KBR109 24 June 2016 23: 16
          +4
          Recall another crest - DOD. From RusHydro. With a premium of 350 million. Or Ilgiz Garifullin - Novosibirsk Rosreservovets, with 100 million. in a drawer on a toothpick.
    3. atalef
      atalef 25 June 2016 09: 15
      0
      Quote: beer-youk
      Strictly speaking, we were never brothers

      An interesting twist - half of the comments state that there have never been Ukrainians - these are Russians.
      those conducting a logical chain can be understood. that the Russians have never been and never will be Russian brothers?
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 25 June 2016 09: 22
        +3
        This is a side branch from the Russians. crying Dead end direction. laughing
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  9. Mihail177
    Mihail177 24 June 2016 22: 02
    +23
    Someone else's comment: "" The whole is covered with debt, Europe has absolutely the entire Independence Island. Unfortunate Ukrainian savages live there. Free on the face, but slaves inside. What they don't do - things don't go. It can be seen in the embroidered shirt their mother gave birth. The crocodile is over, does not insert coke ... They pray to Bandera, not sparing tears. Like tse Europe and could live. Sewing new embroidery for Lenin. There is no light in the hut, there is no coal in the stove. On the Maidan, a hundred died in vain.
    ""
  10. Margadon
    Margadon 24 June 2016 22: 03
    +9
    I think a return to fraternal relations is possible only after the collapse of Ukraine. And then only with the Southeast. With Western Ukraine it is better to behave as with the Baltic states.
  11. Arkan
    Arkan 24 June 2016 22: 05
    +9
    What friendship can there be if there is blood between us ?! Blood of Donbass! The author of the article writes names, some arguments, but behind all this, there is a desire to put on the neck all this Ukrainian bunch of guano. We already stepped on this rake. The cookies turned out to be more dear to them than kinship, died, so died.
  12. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 24 June 2016 22: 05
    +3
    I could not put a minus article, just because of the last phrase
    Thousands of Ukrainians fought alongside the Russians and sacrificed their lives for our future. We must remember such Ukrainians.

    Well, everything else in the article, how new or uninteresting, I agree to a bunch of minuses, but this publication does not contain any informative or interesting information. I repeat, but the site administration seems to be fulfilling some kind of order, I think it’s advertising, because it’s difficult to understand this publication differently. Although, as an option, maybe we are all considered as very distant people. what
  13. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 24 June 2016 22: 07
    +1
    We did not start this divorce. Judge - history, defendant Kiev.
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 24 June 2016 22: 25
      0
      Do not flatter yourself. YELTSIN - number one. He is the main defendant. Kravchuk and Shushka can not be considered. Vodka, bathhouse and Belovezhskaya Pushcha are still to blame. )))))
  14. Lukich
    Lukich 24 June 2016 22: 07
    +8
    And although I refuse to believe that the famous poems of the Ukrainian poetess were prophetic

    they have been answered more than once
    1. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 25 June 2016 01: 14
      +2
      Quote: Lukich
      And although I refuse to believe that the famous poems of the Ukrainian poetess were prophetic
      they have been answered more than once

      This is accurate:
      "A crest will remain a crest
      Though you let him in Europe
      Where to act with the mind,
      He only annoys f * ck.

      And that is why in Russia
      Bequeathed as much by Monomakh:
      "Contact God forbid!
      With three - zhi.dom, khokhl and lyakh. "

      Insidious J.id, although blind;
      Puffy Lyakh - worse than bl ** and,
      Crest - eat the bread with you,
      And then shit in your soup "(c).

      "Ukrainians" T.G.Shevchenko 1851
      1. Barakuda
        Barakuda 25 June 2016 10: 07
        +2
        Shevchenko did not write this. was even to become a VO.
  15. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 24 June 2016 22: 08
    +20
    Perhaps such messages in Ukraine have not been read for a long time.
  16. hirurg
    hirurg 24 June 2016 22: 09
    +4
    Unfortunately, Ukrainians fell into a bad company.
    Like a young prodigal child, when his parents, thinking that she was an adult and understood everything, released him on free bread.
    And then, as in life, we'll see.
    Or she will change her mind and crawl to her mother’s lap, sending to ... that whole company, she will apologize.
    Or he will become bored, addicted, and then there will be no turning back, help from relatives too.
    And what Ukrainians will choose, the choice depends only on them. But there will definitely not be a previous relationship. Confidence is easy to lose, but it will take decades to recover.
    1. stas
      stas 24 June 2016 22: 22
      +6
      So in the 91 year, we also got into a terrible situation. And EBNa brought to power, and Moscow almost 1 million people came out to support the shit democracy.
      It is necessary to help get rid of the junta that seized power in Ukraine.
      1. hirurg
        hirurg 24 June 2016 22: 48
        +7
        I’m talking about this, and we climbed ourselves and didn’t crap anyone's head.
        And about helping ...
        Well, how do you help a person who decided to drown in shit. And he was helped more than once. But he stubbornly climbs ...
        Old people only feel sorry for them for what it is.
  17. stas
    stas 24 June 2016 22: 10
    +11
    First you need to remove the Kiev junta and drive Bandera to the borders of Galicia.
    And then we need to do what we need for Russia. Many questions about friendship or non-friendship will disappear themselves.
    We are one nation, and it was necessary to flirt less before the Khokhlyat nationalists, nip them in the bud.
    And Kiev should remain a Russian city. The economic development of Russia should set an example for others, and the peoples of the USSR themselves will be drawn to Russia.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 25 June 2016 04: 23
      +1
      Quote: stas
      We are one people, and it was necessary to flirt less before the Khokhlyat nationalists, nip them in the bud ...


      Stop flirting in front of nationalists of any nationality yes

      Quote: stas
      Russia's economic development should set an example for others

      When this will be seen not only in Moscow and other regions where budget funds are "poured", then there will be an example yes And, while only a weak imitation of the general take-off ... In the sense that the take-off took place, but most of the passengers have remained at the airport belay
  18. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 24 June 2016 22: 11
    +7
    For all the Russian people I have no right to speak! But for myself, after everything that happened in the Donbass for the killing of old people, children, bullying, torture! I’ll just be turned back from them NOR when they will not be brothers to me and I’ll hammer my boy in the head that they are fascists. And I do not need to write that they are not all like that.
  19. dmitriyruss
    dmitriyruss 24 June 2016 22: 15
    -4
    Will we become brothers? and that someone ceased to consider Ukrainians them (brothers)? ...
    1. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 24 June 2016 23: 00
      +2
      Now it is more like "near", not "together".
      Yeah, the Americans knew where to sow the seed of discord.
    2. Vladislav 73
      Vladislav 73 25 June 2016 00: 50
      +1
      I stopped! And I’m not going to change my opinions! No.
      1. dmitriyruss
        dmitriyruss 25 June 2016 00: 53
        +3
        This is all calculated ... and curly puppeteers rub their hands that they brewed a weld between the brothers
        1. Vladislav 73
          Vladislav 73 25 June 2016 02: 08
          +3
          Yes, yes! In a Christian way, it means "a moskalyak for a gilyak!", And I ... should I put his neck in a noose myself? And even repeat, they don't know what they are doing? The gentleman hovers in the clouds, you can turn your cheek , and sticking your neck in a noose is your own business, just don't call everyone to do this! We didn't start, but if we finish, then ... in war as in war! Only this way!
    3. kolobok63
      kolobok63 25 June 2016 05: 30
      0
      Goose pig not comrade hi !
    4. Riv
      Riv 25 June 2016 08: 09
      0
      Your face, when a crest nearby is trying to steal your shield, but you hold on.
  20. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 24 June 2016 22: 16
    +10
    Tricky assailants are who are actually Ukrainians. If someone considers them brothers, then let this masochist be ready for spitting from behind or stabbing him in the back.
  21. adena
    adena 24 June 2016 22: 16
    +7
    Already seen all this, here in a quiet Baltic swamp it was all.
    There are no all these shades of shit, they (the bastard who speaks only in Russian and gurgling with hatred for the Russians) is shit, nothing can fix them. they have already betrayed their nature, this is an incurable pathology. you can "save them from suffering", but it's not worth it, time will put everything in its place anyway (or rather, it will spread them over the graves. sooner or later).
  22. Panikovsky
    Panikovsky 24 June 2016 22: 18
    +5
    All brothers have returned and are returning to the Russian world. What will be the fate of the remaining independent ones depends only on their behavior, but in any case they will have to raise their Ruin from the ruins themselves and at their own expense. Russia must say to these gavriks: -Something is enough for me. To hell with the poor, God will give.
  23. Havoc
    Havoc 24 June 2016 22: 18
    +3
    It hurts them the brains of young people.
    1. dmitriyruss
      dmitriyruss 24 June 2016 22: 20
      +1
      Healing fasting is prescribed ...
    2. berezin1987
      berezin1987 25 June 2016 00: 01
      0
      Why does Russia need youth? There is no sense from it, it causes a lot of problems, it is prone to parasitism. Russia needs to lure away successful, sober-minded people who can be useful. For them, you need to create conditions like the United States, Israel, Germany. Russia has enough of its own parasites and gopars. Anyone wishing to obtain a Russian passport must have the required professional skills and have a clean reputation, respect our traditions and culture. Let the rest build a "sweetle European afrykanske maybutne" with Afghan specifics. Don't bother them. The Americans generally have Mexico across the border with hundreds of thousands of squabbles in showdowns over the past year. The border can be closed very easily if desired. Minefields are being set up in hard-to-control areas, while in the rest, sensors and signs "beware of mines!" Can be dispensed with. The price of the issue is several billion killed raccoons. After a couple of hundred blown up border violators who want to cross it bypassing the checkpoint, there will be much less
  24. Coffin Cross1
    Coffin Cross1 24 June 2016 22: 18
    +6
    There is no such nation - Ukrainians. There is a single Russian people. Which the Zionists dragged into the civil war. But not today and not now, but almost 100 years ago. And this civil war is still going on. The single Slavic people are split, so it is easier to control and plunder them. In general, Russia will become Great and "rise from its knees" only on this condition.
  25. berezin1987
    berezin1987 24 June 2016 22: 22
    +9
    No fraternal relations are needed. Stop feeding all sorts of parasites. We have already liberated the balkans, Romania, Georgia from the Ottoman yoke, western Ukraine from the oppression of Poland. Only Serbs remained friendly to us, and this is only until the current generation lives on. If the Turks and Poles again want to capture and arrange genocide on their former possessions, Russia should no longer save anyone. And for the betrayal, I would also help destroy these little brothers. An enemy like the Anglo-Saxons or Germans can be respected, but traitors and parasites deserve only eternal contempt.
  26. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 24 June 2016 22: 23
    -1
    U, Dianochka, obvious sexual starvation (judging by the photo) ... Found, "khokhla" and "cotton wool" ?! fool
  27. Weyland
    Weyland 24 June 2016 22: 23
    +2
    Strongly disagree with the author!
    In vain he calls Banderlog "Mazepa" - they ideological enemieswho must be deported to Poland (or, more simply, given to Poland along with their Galicia). Enemies cannot betray by definition - only "friends" betray: Mazepa is known because he faithfully served Peter for 20 years - and then betrayed him!
    But those whom the author calls "lost" - they are worst type - they are traitors convinced, always ready to go over to the one who promises them more! And nafig we never need such "brothers"! And the ranks of "loyal" (not the so-called ukrov, but Little Russians) they will replenish only in words - being always ready to betray again! No dialogue is needed with them - we are on the road only with Little Russians, and not with Ukrainians!
    1. Homo
      Homo 24 June 2016 22: 39
      +1
      Quote: Weyland
      Enemies cannot betray by definition - only "friends" betray: Mazepa is known because he faithfully served Peter for 20 years - and then betrayed him!

      And the descendants of "great ukrov" faithfully served the USSR, and then betrayed. hi
      Quote: Weyland
      But those whom the author calls "lost" - they are the worst type - they are traitors by conviction, always ready to go over to the one who promises them more!

      They are not traitors, they are opportunists, do not care, they live by the principle - do not care what kind of power, if only there was something to put in your mouth! laughing
      PS Only without vulgarity, in the literal sense.
  28. afrikanez
    afrikanez 24 June 2016 22: 27
    0
    I am tormented by vague doubts (from c / f Ivan Vasilievich is changing his profession) about this. How much can you endure all sorts of dirty tricks from them? Enough already, have suffered and heard enough.
  29. atamankko
    atamankko 24 June 2016 22: 28
    +2
    After what they have done, they are not only not brothers,
    and not even neighbors, but living nearby, whom I do not trust.
  30. slava5553
    slava5553 24 June 2016 22: 34
    0
    We will, when Ukraine ceases to be a bargaining chip, political coin, for the sake of HAZARD.
  31. weksha50
    weksha50 24 June 2016 22: 39
    +5
    "Thousands of Ukrainians fought alongside the Russians and sacrificed their lives for our future. We must remember such Ukrainians"...

    I completely agree...

    However, what has happened in recent years will make me and, probably, some of people like me, treat Ukrainians with distrust ... And it is good for them that people like me have already begun to die ... That is - some time will pass, and the betrayal of the "brotherly people" will be forgotten ...

    PS By the way, why are we talking specifically about Ukrainians, when there are now a lot of people in Ukraine. Bearing Russian surnames and names and speaking in Russian, they also hate and pour mud on Russia ???
    So the problem is even deeper than we think ...
    1. berezin1987
      berezin1987 25 June 2016 01: 43
      -1
      Treason must not be forgiven or forgotten. Otherwise, everything will happen again after a while
      1. berezin1987
        berezin1987 25 June 2016 09: 11
        -1
        In the hands of these reptiles is the blood of peaceful Russian people. They betrayed the age-old friendship of peoples and do not deserve forgiveness. How many times you can step on the same rake.
  32. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 24 June 2016 22: 42
    +3
    I ask the moderators not to ban me. Words cannot be ejected from a song, all the more so from one’s own, and I agree with her by 1000%

    Dino MC47 - Our response to a Ukrainian woman to her verse "We never wake up as brothers."

    We will never be brothers
    You give hero stars to traitors
    Now by laws, then by concepts,
    you scare us with democracy

    Moscow, we, ka.ts.y we, wat.ni.ki,
    We are slaves ever drunk and hungry
    We are not friends to you, not associates,
    Since you people are so free.

    We ourselves have chosen a king,
    Crowned him to the kingdom.
    All who are against - all lost
    Love for the homeland and the state

    We are ready to wash our face with blood
    We are ready to be cannon fodder
    We are saturated with this love.
    Our patriotism is on the verge of ecstasy.

    You are probably right in many ways,
    But in one you were mistaken greatly.
    Your rules, your charters -
    And you blame Russia on everything

    Say we don’t have a spirit?
    You probably just forgot.
    In the minds of everyone now devastation
    Dust covered propaganda

    We are like zombies, staring at the telly.
    We don’t understand anything anymore
    But it turns out that because of the money
    Ukraine is not at all native to us.

    Everyone wants to live free, rich.
    Everyone is waiting for a second and third chance.
    But in your troubles you found the guilty.
    Are you measuring financial happiness?

    My Ukraine, Independent
    I know you're not like that
    But you are now completely foreign
    You're completely alien to us now

    Life goes on after dope
    The truth afterwards will be sad.
    You, many-sided children of the Maidan,
    You are great, and we are Russian.

    Do not want to be more brothers
    "neither for homeland, nor for mother",
    But we are still waiting for you with love in Russia
    Come to our Crimea, kindly asking ...

    → http://onesong.ru/31/Dino-MC-47/tekst-pesni-Nikogda-my-ne-budem-bratyami
  33. berezin1987
    berezin1987 24 June 2016 22: 51
    +6
    Enough of Russia to pull up its surrounding countries and peoples. Russia should become a city on a hill as the United States is now. The Anglo-Saxons are an archenemy, but I respect them for strictly defending their interests, regardless of the victims among the natives. Most of the ball hates staff members, including and many Europeans, but continue to actively lick their ass. Do you know why? Because they are well aware of what the Americans are capable of doing with them. The United States does not know pity for other nations and civilizations, and the Russians constantly pity someone and try to save them from extermination. But does the Russian people need this? Could it be better to act in accordance with one’s own interests?
  34. aba
    aba 24 June 2016 22: 52
    0
    I personally have complete apathy for this question!
  35. Tanya
    Tanya 24 June 2016 22: 55
    +4
    A tragedy has occurred with those living in Ukraine, the scale of which they still do not even understand. Ripen or not - is unknown. Sorry for ordinary people ...
  36. Sarmat149
    Sarmat149 24 June 2016 22: 55
    +13
    The article put a minus. The author herself is brainwashed. The article is based on demagogy and the substitution of concepts.

    Ukrainians are an invented substance for a war with Russians; you yourself know how, where, when and by whom it was created. Ukrainians are Russians who have betrayed everything Russian and hate everything Russian.

    Under the tsars, the territory of historical Ukraine was officially called MALAYA RUSSIA. In Rzeczpospolita, this same territory was called the RUSSIAN LANDS OF THE POLISH CROWN. The language spoken by the locals was considered a LITTLE RUSSIAN SPOT (a textbook example of M.Yu. Lermontov's novel "A Hero of Our Time").

    They gave Ukraine independence, I repeat GIFT (there was no struggle of the people themselves). After gaining independence from Russia, how did this substance behave? Examples are known to all.

    I believe that the issue of fraternal peoples is provocative. UKRAINIANS and RUSSIANS are ONE PEOPLE, only UKRAINIANS - TRAITORS. Accordingly, it is necessary to act with traitors as they deserve it, that is, NOT BROTHERS. The state policy of Russia in the territory of the country 404 should be carried out in the interests of the DESTRUCTION of UKRAINE and the RESTORATION of LITTLE RUSSIA with all the ensuing consequences. But only after that we can talk about fraternity.

    Naturally this is my humble opinion.

    Yes, lastly. Kozhedub for me is a RUSSIAN PILOT.
    1. passing
      passing 25 June 2016 10: 34
      +2
      I support sarmat 149, this is our land, and they need to be divided into Russians and Ukrainians using the criminal code of the Russian Federation soldier
  37. Erg
    Erg 24 June 2016 22: 56
    +2
    When grandma pours dirt on Russia for 70-80, I understand that this is the finish. Brainless youth simply must be annihilated, in view of their futility, even, rather, danger. These are the elderly, who changed their worldview in a couple of years, forgetting their roots, spitting on their ancestors who gave their lives for them ... This is an indicator ...
  38. iouris
    iouris 24 June 2016 22: 57
    +4
    Quote
    For what reason, the Ukrainians went over to the side of Hitler during the Second World War?
    End of quote.
    The question is methodologically incorrect. Who are you talking about? Ukrainians are Russians living in the territory of the former USSR. Bandera is a very special story.
    For what reason did General Vlasov, the favorite of Stalin, join the side of Hitler?
    The reasons are different. I didn’t want to die, I wanted to live, I was scared, I couldn’t shoot myself, I was afraid, for ideological reasons ... The Vlasovites had not yet divided themselves into Russians and Ukrainians.
  39. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 24 June 2016 22: 57
    +3
    the most burning topic .. bullfight..personally in my blood there is a mixture of Tatars, Russians and Ukrainians, and my wife is from a Cossack family ..Well, psychos want to be indignant .. well let. Go wild. He will take his blood. Maybe not in 100 years, but it will. We are the same with Ukrainians .. we understand this, they do not
  40. Erg
    Erg 24 June 2016 22: 59
    +5
    For me, Ukrainian is a household name. Thank God that some of them are smart enough to consider themselves Russian.
  41. berezin1987
    berezin1987 24 June 2016 23: 07
    +9
    I want to see Russia a strong state with a creative ideology that incorporates the wisdom of the East and the rationalism of the West, historical traditions and technological power. Limitophores do not care. Their destiny is to whine like a beaten hungry mongrel, and if they throw, they die. Russia is a huge country with a thousand-year history, which is full of great victories and accomplishments. We don't need anyone. Everyone can cooperate on mutually beneficial conditions, and let the enemies watch the annual victory parade.
  42. Vadim237
    Vadim237 24 June 2016 23: 27
    +7
    It's time to close this topic about the Brothers and put a bullet in this debate - Ukraine from the very beginning has been, is and will be - a traitor country.
  43. vel1163
    vel1163 24 June 2016 23: 54
    +1
    We are not what we will become brothers. We were and will be one nation, one people, and the one who raises such questions is precisely the enemy. Like the Murmons and Volgars, the inhabitants of the Urals and Ryazan with their own characteristics and differences. That in the 90s few of us Russians sincerely believed that Europe needed a strong, prosperous Russia, that foreigners sleep and see how to do us good. That we didn’t have fights in the Parliament, didn’t shoot him. In general, we all got divorced. : be patient, we’re at war with Russia. Europe was told to give money to NATO, and then the terrible Russia is at the gates. In Russia, the recession is so that the whole West is fighting with us sanctions, etc. And as for the fact that the people tolerate such a regime. And many of us go to rallies, many are ready to go to prison and to deprivation and fight for their rights. Stalin taught to endure everyone.
  44. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 24 June 2016 23: 57
    +2
    when his brother is in trouble .. he needs help. and not give up on him. after all, this is what the Anglo-Saxons are achieving .. that the Slavs would kill each other. and do not confuse Ukrainians with zapadentsami. and they are now in power, they are Hungarians, Czech Poles. And by and large they need this collapse between the Slavic peoples .. something to chop off Western lands from UKRAINE.

    I’m a brother of the weather and we fought hard since childhood .. but years have passed and he’s still my brother. do not rush to refuse with hot and anger.
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 25 June 2016 00: 33
      +6
      It’s You Yang tell my neighbor that lived in the same yard-weirdo-school-institute all the same practically. BUT HE was born in Ivano Frankivsk, like my parents from Lviv, and I in Tyumen, and all my relatives are there.
      So he’s ready to kill me on occasion .. But the bitch pisses and doesn’t greet the 45-year-old deb.il.od., since I’m not simple and twice as healthy .. what
      You write to me, I’ll print it on the printer and send it to the postal box ...
  45. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 25 June 2016 00: 02
    +2
    The number of citizens who treat Russia well in Ukraine is equal to the number of those who treat poorly: 42% and 43%.

    as you can see from the survey, not everything is so clear .. as I would like. so don’t cut hot with the MUSIC (C).
  46. RedBaron
    RedBaron 25 June 2016 00: 21
    -4
    Well, YOURSELF said the enemies and all the channels vying with each other are singing about the enemies, he will order the brothers, take them under the visor and the sofa "geniality" will sing differently.
  47. Vladislav 73
    Vladislav 73 25 June 2016 00: 46
    +5
    Before that there was an article about Bulgarian "brothers", now Ukrainian brothers / not brothers ... In my opinion, that about those that about others everything is clear to everyone, but no, from time to time they start pounding water in a mortar! Not "brothers" and they are not brothers to us! What, history does not teach anything?! The older generation will die out, and who will remain there? Thugs who were brought up in Russophobia for the last 25 years! Will they change their minds in 100 years? Oh well...
    Go wild. He will take his blood. Maybe not in 100 years, but it will.
    Blessed are the believers .... request
    1. Atlant-1164
      Atlant-1164 25 June 2016 00: 48
      +2
      so you can stay without relatives .. but they are not chosen for life .. they live with them.
      1. Vladislav 73
        Vladislav 73 25 June 2016 00: 57
        +1
        Well, who decides how ... I had one "relative", he was drunk at night, he DEMANDED in a relative way to catch up! I brought him down the stairs in a relative way, and that's it, silence. angryAs they said in the army, nafig such relatives to me, I'd rather be an orphan! Well, who wants to endure such "relatives" is dear to him!
    2. Barakuda
      Barakuda 25 June 2016 01: 05
      +7
      Well, not really 25 years old. It all started vigorously under Yushche the beekeeper, with his Nazi wife. But Kravchuk and Kuchmavoz did not dare. Although they let go on the brakes.
      Indeed, our generation of the USSR will die out and the mustache is gone - but you will not wait, We teach how we can young people. I am near the horizontal bar and the bars in the courtyard of the "department" of students after school, collecting the history of EVERYTHING.
      Therefore, they want to "close" me.
      Although my parents do not mind, I have a positive effect. books began to read.
      1. Vladislav 73
        Vladislav 73 25 June 2016 01: 53
        +3
        Indeed, our generation of the USSR will die out and the mustache is gone - but you will not wait, We teach how we can young people. I am near the horizontal bar and the bars in the courtyard of the "department" of students after school, collecting the history of EVERYTHING.
        But we don’t wait. We have already waited! As the Bible says, he who has ears, let him hear. He who has eyes, let him see. Here we listen and look. And we draw conclusions. Honor and praise, but there are many ascetics like you?... request
  48. Michael easily
    Michael easily 25 June 2016 02: 12
    +1
    Between True Brothers There Has Never Been Enmity
    1. Vladislav 73
      Vladislav 73 25 June 2016 02: 22
      +4
      Do you know names like Cain and Abel? If not, take an interest. I can take a closer look at Boris and Gleb and Svyatopolk the Accursed. All are the sons of Vladimir Svyatoslavovich, who is the Red Sun, he is Equal to the Apostles.
  49. Magadan
    Magadan 25 June 2016 02: 26
    +3
    and at this time, our hands, the leaders again save the junta. Russia again took up the supply of electricity to dill under the slogan "sorry for children and old women" .... Do they not understand that the faster the junta kirdyk, the better the same children / old women. And the more crap the junta is now, the faster it will be kirdyk.
    Here who will explain, to hell AGAIN Russia saves this UA zone?

    PS hello everyone, I have not been here for a long time :)
    1. kolobok63
      kolobok63 25 June 2016 05: 55
      -2
      So it’s necessary to look for someone who benefits from this!? And it can only be beneficial to RUSSIAN TRAITERS! hi OW !!!
    2. behemot
      behemot 25 June 2016 07: 34
      0
      That's right, we need to save the brothers, but they didn’t get it (we are kind, cheaper Khokhlov) in the domestic market we will cut prices, the benefit is not long to wait, the first of July is not far off.
  50. Evil 55
    Evil 55 25 June 2016 03: 15
    0
    And among the Slavs there are traitors .. Remember Bulgaria. How many Russians died for her, but she will never refuse to exchange Slavic blood for one-time dividends. UKRALINA is exactly the same country, a potential traitor .. Accordingly, "friendship" with her should be limited ..
    1. behemot
      behemot 25 June 2016 07: 33
      0
      Bulgarians are not Slavs like. and it doesn’t matter, Slavs, not Slavs. Either people, or not people.