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Lost 25 years


Because of pseudo-reformers, Russia missed the civilizational spurt that the world made

What does the word "nineties" associate with an American, an Englishman, or a South Korean? With technological and economic growth: Silicon Valley, the dot-com boom, the development of computer and mobile networks, the emergence of technology giant companies. After the economic downturn of the seventies and the troubled eighties, the advanced capitalist countries experienced rapid growth. In Russia, the nineties are associated with the collapse of a single territory of the country, poverty and “brothers” in crimson jackets.

It is difficult to argue with the fact that the economic problems of the late USSR were serious. But were they fatal? And were the reforms of the nineties their treatment? It seems that the “treatment” killed the patient. By the beginning of the “lost decade” Russia came up with a huge scientific background and a developed social insurance system, free medicine and education, which was the most popular in the world. Thanks to the pseudo-reformers and their equally talented heirs from all this, there is no stone unturned. As a result, Russia missed the social and technological breakthrough that other countries enjoyed. Not having had time to take the train carrying the whole world to the future, our country was stuck in a stop of the joyless present.

The death of the welfare state


Reformers of the early nineties convinced citizens that they are returning Russia to the bosom of the civilized world: after dead-end attempts to build a planned economy, the country is returning to a free market - as in the West, “as in the best houses of London and Paris”. But in which of the developed countries at that time there was a free market? It was in the nineties that the advanced capitalist countries began to actively limit the rights of corporations, increase taxes on them, and thereby increase social spending. So, in the 1980-s in the UK, the total amount of pension payments did not exceed 2% of the country's GDP. Today, according to the UK Pension Policy Institute, 99 billion pounds is spent on retirement - 5,5% of British GDP. The lion's share of this (67 billion pounds) is government pensions, although if you had known Margaret Thatcher about such extravagance, she would faint. But it was precisely in the last quarter of a century that European countries shifted the emphasis from the interests of big business to the interests of the ordinary citizen. At the end of 80, Western capitalism did not yet have that human face to which the market reformers seduced us. But now it has appeared - and in many respects precisely because the Western countries more and more resemble the USSR sunk into oblivion. What our liberal economists considered unviable is considered as a reality or a preferred option for the future.

The pension system in force in the USSR was the most generous in the world. Since the 1950s, when it became universal, it has been refined several times. According to the law “On pension provision for citizens in the USSR”, adopted in 1990, the minimum old-age pension was 55% of earnings, while for every full year of work in excess of 25 for men and 20 for women, the pension increased by 1% earnings The maximum pension reached 75% earnings. Doesn't this remind you of anything? Nowadays, pensions of a number of European countries, such as Scandinavian ones, are also generous. In our country, everything, alas, has long been wrong.

Of course, the Soviet pension system had a major disadvantage - due to the fact that the formation of pension funds was not assigned to the enterprises themselves, the latter sought to provide preferential pensions to the maximum number of their retiring employees. Thus, the pension system became an increasingly heavy burden for the budget. But was this a purely Soviet problem? Not at all, similar difficulties today are widely discussed in the press of Western countries. And the following solutions are proposed - for example, to raise the retirement age, to give old people the opportunity to work even when they reach retirement age, preferring retirement wages. In Russia, the economists of the era of the nineties ruined from the bullet: they took advantage of the fact that inflation has repeatedly reduced the real size of pensions, and indexed it, not keeping up with the rise in prices. As a result, it was possible to save money due to human capital: the impoverishment of older people led to the short life expectancy of Russians and the poor situation with their health.

But one should not think that the “reforms” hit mainly the old men. Even published by the publishing house of the Gaidar Institute two-volume book “Economy of Russia. The Oxford Collection, trying to bring all the economic problems to the “damn scoop”, cannot help but admit the obvious - in post-Soviet Russia, the able-bodied population was rapidly impoverished: “Contrary to expectations, neither the unemployed nor the pensioners are the main social groups in the category of low-income citizens of Russia. Instead, the poverty profile is determined mainly by the “working poor”, the rural population, as well as families with children (especially with only one parent). ” How it all diverges from the once-propagandized market reformers with the thought that poverty is the lot of lazy people!

Promising to form a well-to-do middle class in Russia, the liberals-marketers eventually cultivated only one really rich layer — a layer of large owners. For the late USSR, the Gini coefficient — an indicator of the financial stratification of society — was 26 (the smaller it is, the higher the equality of incomes of citizens). In modern Russia, it is equal to 39,9. This is not so bad: if we compare the incomes of the rich and the poor in the UK and the USA, we will get almost the same figures. But if we take the Gini coefficient for those countries that are considered prosperous and famous for their high culture of attitude towards human capital, we will see that it is the same as in the USSR: Sweden - 25, Norway - 25,8, Japan - 24,9, Finland - 26,9.

And it was not for nothing that the “reform” disappointed all conceiving patriots of Russia. In the book “Russia in a landslide,” Alexander Solzhenitsyn wrote: “I will never put Gaidar next to Lenin, too much of that growth. But in one capacity they are very similar: in that, as a fanatic, drawn only by his visionary idea, not aware of state responsibility, he confidently takes on the scalpel and repeatedly cuts through the body of Russia. And even six years later, in today's self-confidently grinning face, a politician doesn’t see embarrassment: how, by ruining savings deposits, he threw tens of millions of his compatriots into poverty (having destroyed the basis of the very "middle class" that he swore to create).


Bust of an economist and politician Egor Gaidar at the State University "Higher School of Economics". Photo: Valery Sharifulin / TASS

The promised middle class was actually born only towards the end of the 2000's. True, we note right away that Russian economists prefer to determine the belonging of a person to the middle class not so much by income as by level of education and no need to engage in physical labor. If you try to determine the size of the Russian middle class not by income, but by the price of property owned by citizens, the situation will be much more deplorable - no 40% of citizens who numbered in Russia before the beginning of the current crisis, we certainly will not receive. “Privatization was being introduced throughout the country with the same boundless madness, with the same destructive speed as“ nationalization ”(1917 – 18) and collectivization (1930) - only with the opposite sign,” wrote the same Solzhenitsyn. And led to the same devastating consequences. When the capitalist countries themselves built a social state, we built a wild, antediluvian capitalism - the way it was in the United States of the “roaring twenties”.

Raw materials instead of technology


In the nineties, companies in the USA, Europe and Southeast Asia ate from the fruits of technological advancement. The share of expenditure on research and development in these countries has grown over the past 20 – 25 years. In 2010, expenditures on research and development as compared to GDP of countries were: in Japan - 3,6%, in the USA - 2,7%, in South Korea - 4,2%, in France - 2,2%, in Israel - 4,1%, in Finland - 3,1%. In the late eighties, this figure for most of the listed countries did not even stand close to the Soviet one: the USSR spent 3,5% of its huge GDP on R & D. In the nineties for Russia, this figure fell to about 1%, for most other republics, it is calculated in tenths of a percent.

And even now, after some increase in the cost of science, spending on research and development in Russia does not exceed 1,1% of the country's GDP. This is less (in relative terms, of course) than the less sophisticated powers like the Czech Republic or Portugal spend on research and development. And if you remember that a significant part of these funds in Russia is deposited in the pockets of managers responsible for science (let us remember the high-profile cases of embezzlement at Rosnano, the Skolkovo innovation center, etc.), it becomes clear that the real support of science and technology in Russia at times lower.

Despite the terrible reluctance to pay taxes, which are famous for American technical giants, their contribution to the US economy is great. For example, only one Apple in 2014 paid 13,97 billion dollars in taxes. In Russia, technology companies do not have this level, but you can compare these tax revenues, for example, with those made by the largest Russian company, Gazprom, which paid 2014 trillion rubles in taxes in the same year 2,063. Even if you do not take the dollar 65 rubles, which was a consequence of the “black Tuesday” 16 of December 2014 (although large companies in Russia pay taxes at the end of the year), and take a more benign figure, for example, 50 rubles for 1 dollar, you get that one technology company Apple brings the US budget a third of the amount that the raw materials giant Gazprom brings to the Russian budget.

And this is despite the fact that Apple actually sells technological solutions and design, and Gazprom sells irreplaceable natural resources. Let's not forget another thing: yes, Apple is the largest American technology company, but even Amazon, HP and Microsoft seriously lagging behind it have much more revenue than the brainchild of Steve Jobs. In general, tax revenues from technology companies to the US budget exceed 100 billion dollars. In Russia, they are almost imperceptible against the background of returns from raw material companies. From the nineties, Russia inherited a distorted and poorly diversified structure of the economy, entirely dependent on the extraction of natural resources. And this is despite the fact that it was only thanks to the raw material giants that the country managed, at the very least, to restore industry. The “Lost Decade” actually stretched over 16 – 17 years: the aggregate index of industrial production in Russia only in 2008 reached the level of the beginning of the 90-s.

And the very fact that large companies pay taxes is not at all given is an indicator of civilization and legality in the state. During the years of stagnation, the shadow economy in the USSR did not exceed 10 – 15% of the country's GDP. In the nineties, the figure went beyond 50% of GDP, and it’s not that the situation is overcome: Rosstat now estimates the size of the shadow economy at about 15 – 20%, although the real figure could easily be twice as high. Corruption serves as another reason for the impoverishment of citizens: the state shifts those taxes to the shoulders of honest workers, which it cannot take from fraudsters.

Photo: Stanislav Krasilnikov / TASS

Fools and their roads

In the late USSR and post-Soviet Russia, Soviet education and medicine were actively criticized: they are free, but how can it be free? After all, a person appreciates only what money pays for. Today, people happily rebuke on Facebook news: “Germany has made universities free for all citizens!” And they exclaim: what a fine fellow, not like us! Sorry, but in the USSR, education was completely free back in 1918. And, for example, in Great Britain in the same year only elementary school became free for all residents of the island. Today, the UK government is struggling to increase the accessibility of higher education for citizens - this year, scholarships for those who cannot pay for their education have been allocated up to 12 billion pounds. Before 2010, the Laborites in power repeatedly spoke of their desire to ensure that all talented young people had a chance to study for free at colleges and universities. It seems that in the advanced capitalist countries, which were given to us as an example, they do not at all believe that it is valuable only what citizens pay for from their own pocket.

The same “Soviet” approach can easily be seen in the reform of their medical systems by Western countries. Democrats praise Barack Obama for the fact that the reform of the medical insurance system, carried out at his filing, will allow 95% of the population to reach free services over the years. But we are talking only about basic, cheap medical services - complex cases and a whole range of diseases do not cover free insurance. In the USSR, the last dekhkanin from an Uzbek kishlak could be treated free of charge in a Moscow clinic in the direction from his republican center. It is curious that medical insurance reform in the USA is planned to be carried out, also due to the increase in tax burden on pharmaceutical companies and treating wealthy citizens. Forward to socialism!

There was a Hollywood film about a village of assholes in the 19th century, which, instead of moving to the Wild West, like all normal American pioneers, went the other way. When looking at the post-Soviet history Russia vividly recalls this story. While Europe was uniting in the European Union, we ruined our Union. While the West strengthened the social insurance system, we destroyed our free education and medicine. While the US and European countries were forcing corporations to abide by the law, we were dreaming about a free market, which, according to the strange logic of the Democrats, was supposed to feed all the hungry and heal the suffering, and any iniquity was written off as side effects of primary capital accumulation. Markets do not know how to admit mistakes - that's why they cling to examples where reforms supposedly led to progress: “Why did Georgia succeed? Why did Ukraine succeed? ”Difficult to say at the same time what exactly happened - was it economic prosperity? No, a false attitude towards the all-conquering power of market reforms, which in fact turned into a plunder of the country, could only be crowned with failure. It does not produce blackthorn grapes, but fig thistles.
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  1. oldseaman1957
    oldseaman1957 24 June 2016 12: 35
    +19
    Until Chubais was imprisoned, the "Chubaisiada" continues ... The feeling of war with windmills: all the same harsh bleating of the prime minister about the measures taken, and the feeling of stomping on the spot with sliding back! I got tired of this déja vu ... And everything, I think, is due to the fact that we do not have the main IDEA, and we just like the blind in the fog ...
    1. Basarev
      Basarev 24 June 2016 13: 03
      +11
      The most important thing - the destruction of the Union and the impoverishment of people - this is not a mistake, that was the original plan. Not a secret world government and not a powerful external enemy - but our repainted nomenklatura, who after Andropov and Chernenko got around - and gave themselves freedom.
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 24 June 2016 13: 12
        +17
        Quote: Basarev
        ..Our repainted nomenklatura, who after Andropov and Chernenko got around ..
        And what did these two politicians do if, in your opinion, they drove some "nomenklatura" under the bench? About Andropov, I can only remember the raids of the police and DND on cinemas and shops in order to identify and detain truants, about Chernenko - nothing at all is recalled.
        On the topic: market liberals deftly pulled us in the 90s. Just the whole country on a voucher twisted. By the way, there is nothing surprising in this - the Soviet man was naive (in the good sense of the word) and he was not used to expecting poddyank from his native state. And then the representatives of this very state started blowing in our ears from television screens that after market reforms we will live as before, only much richer! Well, you know the result yourself ..
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 24 June 2016 13: 24
          +9
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          About Andropov, I can only recall the raids of the police and the DND in cinemas and

          He served in the KDVO from 1980 to 1985. and the activity of Yu.V. Andropov was remembered at least by the fact that relatively clean trains began to go to Khabarovsk on a business trip. At the airport, flight downtime was very dramatically reduced. Drunk on the streets became smaller.
          1. Ami du peuple
            Ami du peuple 24 June 2016 13: 51
            +2
            Quote: V.ic
            Yu.V. Andropov’s activity was remembered at least by that
            Another vodka "Andropovka" appeared, remember? smile
            In fact, Andropov was just one of the main organizers of the project to destroy the USSR. Even the names of his nominees, who played a decisive role in the destruction of the Soviet state, say a lot - Gorbachev, Shevarnadze, Ryzhkov. Yes, the same Yeltsin, after all, is also an Andropov creature.
        2. g1v2
          g1v2 24 June 2016 13: 32
          +13
          Personally, my opinion, based on information personally available to me, the collapse of the USSR and the restoration of capitalism began to be prepared back in the 70s under the late Brezhnev. The entire top of the CPSU worked on these. In the late Central Committee, only Nazarbayev fought for the preservation of the union. Gorbachev was just a sign behind which hundreds of people worked in the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and a significant part of the top of the KGB. If this were not so, then Gorbachev would repeat the fate of Khrushchev, deposed by the top of the party. In my opinion, the first putsch was an agreement and a decisive blow to the structure and management of the USSR. IT WAS THE NEW FEBRUARY REVOLUTION OF 1917, A PRACTICAL COPY. THE RESULT - THE DESTRUCTION OF THE COUNTRY. But they prepared this disintegration from the 70s. hi
        3. russkiy redut
          russkiy redut 24 June 2016 15: 09
          0
          Andropov and Chernenko were liquidated with Western intelligence. And they put their Gorbachev, the real name Goebels, so that he would die!
    2. Joe stalin
      Joe stalin 24 June 2016 14: 21
      +5
      and it’s PUTIN that covers Chubais, and you can plant Chubais only with Putin:

      Chubais began his activities in Leningrad in 1990, in the deputy of Sobchak, who at that time was the Chairman of the Leningrad City Council. At the same time, Sobchak appeared Putin. In fact, Putin and Chubais are long-time colleagues and were in very good relations.

      Chubais did not work long with Sobchak and in 1991 E. Gaidar invited him to Moscow, to his government.
      In 1991-1996, Chubais actively privatized Russia.
      But exactly at the same time, using the same methods, Putin privatized Petersburg. It was Putin, and not his boss Sobchak, who led the privatization work. It should be noted that it was at this time that St. Petersburg was characterized as "gangster Petersburg".
      Sobchak had another deputy - Vladimir Yakovlev, he was engaged in purely economic affairs in the city - construction, housing stock, roads. In 1996, he ran for the mayor of St. Petersburg and won over Sobchak. And Putin was engaged in the advertising campaign of Sobchak. And in fact he lost. Yakovlev did not want to keep "this city" (as he himself put it about him), and Putin was left without work.

      Not Yeltsin, not Berezovsky, but Chubais pulled Putin into power, put him on the rails that led into power. And the Clan was already the locomotive.
      Chubais during Putin’s growth period 1996-2000 occupied leading positions under Yeltsin, he was a member of the Family, along with Yumashev, Voloshin and Dyachenko. In 1996, he took responsibility to promote Yeltsin with the help of Berezovsky and Gusinsky TV channels. It was Chubais who persuaded Yeltsin to abandon the plan that Korzhakov and Soskovets stood for, to introduce a state of emergency in the country and to cancel the election.
      And he pulled the "loser" Putin out of St. Petersburg.
      In reality, Putin's views on the economy are no different from Chubais's. If Chubais is a liberal, then Putin is also a liberal. Chubais can now rely only on Putin's decency, and Putin, as you know, "does not give up his own people." And most likely it is.
      From all this we can conclude that Chubais should be the ideal successor to Putin:


      “Why are you worried about these people? Well, thirty million will die out. They did not fit into the market. Don't think about it - new ones will grow up.”

      Such is the ideology of the closest associate of V. Putin Chubais.
    3. gladcu2
      gladcu2 24 June 2016 15: 15
      +3
      Author.

      Give me a low bow to your feet. I bow to you.

      What you have painted is a real picture. I saw and felt this "picture" on my own skin.

      Once again, the author is Ilya Nosyrev. Thank you for being smart and correctly describing the situation.
    4. Skif83
      Skif83 24 June 2016 19: 11
      +1
      I agree.
      There is a reservation, they have an idea, it is an idea to sell everything that can be dumped.
      At least, all the actions of the "helmsmen" speak about this.
      Our idea was, is and will be. Will, justice, one great country, striving for creation, not for consumption. But she periodically fades into the background, as soon as we are moved by the "stomach" wassat
    5. Ermak
      Ermak 24 June 2016 19: 51
      +3
      Because of pseudo-reformers, Russia missed the civilizational spurt that the world made

      What is the word “nineties” associated with for an American, Englishman, or South Korean? With a technological and economic upsurge: Silicon Valley, the boom of dotcoms, the development of computer and mobile networks, the emergence of technology giant companies.


      Yes you? Comrade dear, no one missed anything. The USSR was pulled apart by the "winners". What are you talking about? These hyenas have new markets on a huge scale, these hyenas took the state apart, first bringing down the ruble exchange rate and restraining the protective role of the militia through their lackeys, then taking out heaps of wealth, and what they could not buy for a pittance (ruble low huge inflation) or for nothing (privatization scam). Moreover, the dollar strengthened due to the ruble coverage. There would be no boom for them if there would be nothing to steal.
      And you say they missed ... they stole from us and profited from us.
      These criminals lied to the USSR, not in the USSR under beautiful slogans they lied, but they. But the most important thing is that their names are known and deleting them from history does not work out, much less whitewashing.
      1. region58
        region58 24 June 2016 20: 47
        +1
        Quote: Ermak
        stole from us and profited from us.

        Quote: Ermak
        There would be no boom in them if there was nothing to steal.


        Right in the bullseye. The bourgeois from us (and not only from us) need two things: the first is resources, the second is a sales market. And that’s it. The rest is from the evil one.
        1. Cormorants
          Cormorants 27 June 2016 11: 21
          +1
          The rise of the West in the nineties is directly proportional to the fall of Russia. If the USSR had not collapsed, it was not the fact that this jerk would have been so big anyway!
        2. Cormorants
          Cormorants 27 June 2016 11: 21
          0
          The rise of the West in the nineties is directly proportional to the fall of Russia. If the USSR had not collapsed, it was not the fact that this jerk would have been so big anyway!
  2. Vend
    Vend 24 June 2016 12: 36
    .
    What is the word “nineties” associated with for an American, Englishman, or South Korean? With a technological and economic upsurge: Silicon Valley, the boom of dotcoms, the development of computer and mobile networks, the emergence of technology giant companies.
    Yes, everything is not so rosy with them. And it is important what they have come to now, and what we are. Everything is falling apart in the West, we are on the rise.
    1. Nix1986
      Nix1986 24 June 2016 12: 45
      +18
      Where do you rise? P.S. there is such a thing as a castle, there is a wonderful miracle and marvelous marvelous.
      1. Vend
        Vend 24 June 2016 13: 34
        0
        Quote: Nix1986
        Where do you rise? P.S. there is such a thing as a castle, there is a wonderful miracle and marvelous marvelous.

        Look at how many factories are being built outside the Moscow Ring Road. And you can't do farming in Moscow either. And there are also other regions of Russia. Take Omsk for example. Somewhere it has changed for the better, and for example the recreation area "Green Island" has been destroyed, which is beyond recognition. And here's another. According to the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation No. 1039 of August 11, 2007, a decision was made to enter “OMO im. P.I. Baranov "into the structure of the Federal State Unitary Enterprise" Scientific and Production Center for Gas Turbine Engineering "Salyut".
        Look at the public debt of Russia and Western countries. Well and so on. I understand that many people want it if we are in chocolate, this does not happen. They destroyed the USSR-Russia all over the West, with Russian participation. What to expect? Former Soviet republics, separated from Russia, are they okay now? Eastern European countries joined the EU, many immediately went bankrupt, are they okay now?
        1. Nix1986
          Nix1986 24 June 2016 14: 06
          +10
          Let’s give an example from the native Volgograd region, closed - Alyuminka, Khimprom, VZBT, tractor, on the verge of red October, and a dozen little things, about 25000 jobs all together. One Eurochem opened, about 700 working places. The bill is not in a positive direction.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 24 June 2016 14: 27
            +3
            And it’s good that Khimprom was closed - the region will be less poisoned, it cannot even be restored - 95 percent wear, this year they promise to begin cleaning the territory and sedimentation tanks.
            1. Nix1986
              Nix1986 24 June 2016 14: 35
              +4
              Well, it’s understandable, but now it’s better now, right? A bunch of new shopping centers with vacancies sn 15K.
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 24 June 2016 14: 31
            +3
            Volgograd aluminum plant is working.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 24 June 2016 14: 01
        -6
        In agriculture and energy - according to these indicators, Russia surpassed the USSR, this year in Russia they promise to collect 150 - 160 million tons of grain.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 24 June 2016 14: 39
          +4
          Palpable growth
          1. asiat_61
            asiat_61 26 June 2016 05: 50
            0
            Blessed is he who believes.
    2. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS 24 June 2016 14: 06
      +12
      Quote: Wend
      Yes, everything is not so rosy with them. And it is important what they have come to now, and what we are. Everything is falling apart in the West, we are on the rise.

      what is the rise on the fix?
      Do you live in the looking glass or in a zombodroscope, or what?
      For 25 years from an industrial, high-tech socially protected country, they made a raw materials addition and financial trash, is this an achievement?
      Destroyed 80 thousand enterprises, is this an achievement?
      The elimination of free medicine, the collapse and privatization of the EEC, water utilities and other strategic facilities, is this an achievement?
      And just do not blame everything on the 90s, everything continues to this day.
      To hell, such achievements along with such rulers.
    3. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 24 June 2016 14: 16
      +8
      Quote: Wend
      Everything is falling apart in the west, we are on the rise.
      So that we "fall apart" as they are .. I remember this expression in the times of the USSR: "Capitalism is decomposing socially, and socialism is capital." And they believed this, especially since the time of the late Brezhnev, that life "over the hill" is better and sweeter. The reality turned out to be harsh - we now have no socialism, and it is difficult to call the ugly creature that appeared on its ruins with a printed word. But this is definitely not the capitalism we dreamed of.
      1. 3 Gorynych
        3 Gorynych 24 June 2016 15: 48
        -2
        There was another saying - "Capitalism decays - but it smells fragrant!"
  3. Joe stalin
    Joe stalin 24 June 2016 12: 36
    +29
    "The death of the welfare state" - the term "welfare state" itself, this euphemism was coined in 1949 in the Federal Republic of Germany and enshrined in the Basic Law of Germany.

    And it was invented only because the West was amazed by the phenomenal growth of the Stalinist economy and the superiority of the socialist system of the Stalinist USSR in the sphere of the broadest and most affordable social guarantees for the population, but the very term "socialist state" in the West caused convulsions. I had to invent an ersatz substitute.

    “... in terms of the growth rate of economic power, the USSR is ahead of any country. Moreover, the growth rate in the USSR is 2-3 times higher than in the USA. ”
    National Business, USA, 1953

    “... if the growth rate of production in Stalinist Russia continues, then by 1970 the volume of Russian production would be 3-4 times higher than the American one. And if this happens, the consequences for Western countries, especially for the United States, will be more than formidable. ”
    Stevenson, US Presidential Candidate

    In 1990, China's GDP was six times lower than that of the Soviet Union. Now it is difficult to imagine, but it is so. It's true. In "prosperous" 2008, China's GDP exceeded Russia's GDP by three and a half times.

    Today we really can offer nothing to the world, except for raw materials?

    Yes. And for this reason, modernization in Russia cannot be carried out by liberal forces. Because as soon as we start producing something complicated ourselves, we tear out the corresponding market from Western corporations, and thereby take away their profits. We can - since our market is occupied by the West - even win our own market (this is modernization) only in conflict with the West. And liberals cannot go to a conflict with the West. This is their objective historical impasse.
    1. andj61
      andj61 24 June 2016 13: 48
      0
      Quote: Joe Stalin
      "The death of the welfare state" - the term "welfare state" itself, this euphemism was coined in 1949 in the Federal Republic of Germany and enshrined in the Basic Law of Germany.

      Actually "this term was invented 100 years earlier! repeat The concept of “social state” was first used in 1850 by the German Hegelian philosopher, lawyer, historian, economist Lorenz von Stein. He included in the list of functions of the state “maintaining absolute equality of rights for all different social classes, for a separate private self-determined person through his power.” The state, according to Stein, is obliged to promote the economic and social progress of all its citizens, because ultimately the development of one condition for the development of another, and in this sense it is a question of a social state.
      And with the rest - I agree completely! good hi
      1. Joe stalin
        Joe stalin 24 June 2016 14: 06
        +4
        in normative acts, this was manifested for the first time only in the Basic Law of Germany on May 23, 1949.
        Socialism, too, did not arise with Marx and Engels, but with Thomas Moor and Campanella - but normatively received approval only in the Constitution of the RSFSR of 1918
    2. 3 Gorynych
      3 Gorynych 24 June 2016 15: 53
      +2
      liberals cannot go to a conflict with the West. This is their objective historical impasse.
      so that they can, they need a leader with the second half of your nickname!
      1. Joe stalin
        Joe stalin 24 June 2016 16: 53
        +5
        Hurry up! Putin is slowing down - how many honest people he has killed: Swan, Rokhlin.
        Only Russophobes and scum like Kudrin, Gref, Chubais under Putin and ride like cheese in oil.
  4. sever.56
    sever.56 24 June 2016 12: 42
    +24
    https://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/539/wdah214.png

    Almost one and a half years have passed, and the words of Fyodor Mikhailovich are relevant
    today even more than in those old days ...
  5. KBR109
    KBR109 24 June 2016 12: 45
    +13
    Who else has doubts that the current state of Russia is in the name of the oligarchs?
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 24 June 2016 13: 18
      +9
      ... it is in the name of the oligarchs ... I think that is not entirely accurate.
      It would be more logical to do it in the name of the "galley slave" ...
      1. KBR109
        KBR109 24 June 2016 13: 33
        +5
        I think my definition is more accurate. "Slave" he is one of many, and clearly not the most important. Chubik will be right higher in the report card.
    2. Cat man null
      Cat man null 25 June 2016 00: 17
      0
      Quote: KBR109
      Who else has doubts that the current state of Russia is in the name of the oligarchs?

      - Eh, fools ... but how are you alive? If all is in the name of ALIHAHAV ...

      I’m crap, dear edition .. damn .. meet me on the street .. I’ll easily explain who you are, where you live .. well, and further on the text ..

      Ugh ...
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 25 June 2016 00: 50
        0
        They put down cons, wanting to meet ... guys - there’s a PM, if we don’t get too far away, don’t be delayed :)
  6. Basil50
    Basil50 24 June 2016 12: 45
    +16
    The author does not make ends meet. In the West and in Korea-Japan * a jerk * ​​of technology became possible only after the betrayal of the leadership of the SOVIET UNION and the transfer of all economic potential * to the West * and other neocolonists. Including all developments of SOVIET SCIENCE. The fact that the collapse of Soviet production and the economy took place under the control of the United States is not even hidden, they are proud of it and not at all afraid of punishment. Not for nothing that the first thing that * democrats * did was to push through in the legislation irresponsibility for betrayal and theft of state property.
  7. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 24 June 2016 12: 46
    +10
    But is it only Prime Minister and Chubais who are to blame for everything that has become of social Russia?
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 24 June 2016 13: 21
      0
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      But is it only Prime Minister and Chubais who are to blame for everything that has become of social Russia?

      And what to do, we are not used to looking around us. smile
  8. Pitot
    Pitot 24 June 2016 12: 47
    +19
    Frankly, I did not read the article. BUT. I read the headlines. And Conclusion. Put a plus. We also reached a certain border. Facets. In my understanding, Russia is now an oncological patient. It must be cut out alive - a tumor called chubanoisida and Co. Ministry of Education and Co. Medicine and Co. Duma of all levels and Co. To cut. And if an organism called Russia has strong immunity, it, Russia will squeeze out this garbage from itself and heal in spite of everything and everything ....
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 24 June 2016 12: 56
      +13
      It is against the cutting surgeons and is intended primarily by the National Guard. Unfortunately.
      1. Mama_Cholli
        Mama_Cholli 24 June 2016 13: 02
        +1
        That's right, who wants to be removed from important work that "benefits" Russia ...
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  9. Nix1986
    Nix1986 24 June 2016 12: 53
    +2
    Our mentality is also important, love for easy money, the word muddy has completely replaced the word earn. And what makes it even more annoying is that the majority in business start with nothing "what to do?", But how to get away from taxes, a person has not yet decided what he will do, but is already thinking how to find the state. And what he calls tax efficiency, in fact, the composition of the Criminal Code does not see this difference. In general, as always, sometimes it is good to delve into yourself, in search of the causes of your troubles.
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    2. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 24 June 2016 12: 59
      +6
      Quote: Nix1986
      Our mentality is also important, love for easy money, the word muddy has completely replaced the word earn. And what makes it even more annoying is that the majority in business start with nothing "what to do?", But how to get away from taxes, a person has not yet decided what he will do, but is already thinking how to find the state. And what he calls tax efficiency, in fact, the composition of the Criminal Code does not see this difference. In general, as always, sometimes it is good to delve into yourself, in search of the causes of your troubles.

      Don't just generalize. In Russia, more than 100 million live on wages, and the desire to "stir up" some money is due to the "care" of the State for its citizens.
      1. Nix1986
        Nix1986 24 June 2016 14: 02
        -7
        And who limits you in possibilities? Bad state and no prospects? Ok, learn English, grow professional skills, but you won’t have a beer with friends in the evening and don’t get barbecue on Saturday, but after two or three years you can look for work in Florida for $ 5K. But it's hard, but it's easy to muddle. wink There are difficult situations, it is a fact when someone from a relative is sick, etc., but for the majority it is just laziness.
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        2. Mama_Cholli
          Mama_Cholli 24 June 2016 16: 13
          +8
          Quote: Nix1986
          And who limits you in possibilities? Bad state and no prospects? Ok, learn English, grow professional skills, but you won’t have a beer with friends in the evening and don’t get barbecue on Saturday, but after two or three years you can look for work in Florida for $ 5K. But it's hard, but it's easy to muddle. wink There are difficult situations, it is a fact when someone from a relative is sick, etc., but for the majority it is just laziness.

          I understand this to all Russians who live from paycheck to paycheck, working in production and in agriculture, the advice is to get out of the country?
          Do not distort the brother, here we are talking about another. Why, when the state needs it, everyone goes to bed with bones, but how to ensure a decent life for the people, so sorry, these are your problems, you are cunning, greedy, stupid, lazy ... wink
          1. Nix1986
            Nix1986 24 June 2016 16: 56
            -5
            Surely you know Tsoi’s work, and maybe you love, he likes his thought - I am not a resident of the country, I am a resident of the planet earth. What is the point, for example, I live in the village of Berdyanovo, and life here is bad, and in order to live better I need to move to another village. But why am I obliged to move to another village ?! Where is that uncle who will come and give me a paradise in my village ?! And then there are two ways out, you can strain and leave, or you can continue to whine and cry that there is no such uncle. This is your own business. And nobody limits you in the possibilities of this choice.
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            2. Mama_Cholli
              Mama_Cholli 27 June 2016 09: 18
              0
              Quote: Nix1986
              Surely you know Tsoi’s work, and maybe you love, he likes his thought - I am not a resident of the country, I am a resident of the planet earth. What is the point, for example, I live in the village of Berdyanovo, and life here is bad, and in order to live better I need to move to another village. But why am I obliged to move to another village ?! Where is that uncle who will come and give me a paradise in my village ?! And then there are two ways out, you can strain and leave, or you can continue to whine and cry that there is no such uncle. This is your own business. And nobody limits you in the possibilities of this choice.

              And I do not whine, I work (a pensioner) to survive and put the children on their feet. But I say this because you can’t not talk about it. For our children, another life should be, and not like ours - bestial.
    3. yehat
      yehat 24 June 2016 13: 17
      +9
      where did you get that this is our mentality?
      it’s the mentality of a stupid, stupid cattle who believes that there is a kind uncle who, of course, only because of his natural kindness, advises them on how to live better. And the fact that this uncle is a representative of a nation that has robbed absolutely everyone she could for many centuries is no longer important.
      So, this - this is not a nationality, such can be grown anywhere!
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 25 June 2016 06: 32
        0
        Quote: yehat
        it’s the mentality of a stupid, stupid cattle who believes that there is a kind uncle who, of course, only because of his natural kindness, advises them on how to live better.

        These are constantly whining! They also dream of a free bowl of pottage from a caring host! Yes, so that the horns are broken off by those who live better!
    4. Bayonet
      Bayonet 24 June 2016 13: 27
      +2
      Quote: Nix1986
      Our mentality is also important, the love of easy money, the word muddy has completely replaced the word earn.

      Exactly! Appointing Chubais, Kudrin, or someone else at the top is guilty; it’s easier than understanding the causes of failure deeply. They think if they are planted (hanged, shot, sent to a logging site), prosperity will immediately come? But no, not so simple ...
    5. Vasiliev Yu
      Vasiliev Yu 24 June 2016 14: 22
      +5
      Quote: Nix1986
      Our mentality is also important, love for easy money, the word muddy has completely replaced the word earn. And what makes it even more annoying is that the majority in business start with nothing "what to do?", But how to get away from taxes, a person has not yet decided what he will do, but is already thinking how to find the state. And what he calls tax efficiency, in fact, the composition of the Criminal Code does not see this difference. In general, as always, sometimes it is good to delve into yourself, in search of the causes of your troubles.

      You describe ordinary rats here, rats are mainly in business and come with us. Smart people understand that in order to live well, you must pay the minimum who works for you, you need to have no conscience for this. Honest and conscientious in business, have you seen this?
      Our business is built in such a way that the most successful in it is the most vile. Over the hill, 3% of the profit is already good, and we have the ruble, the next day they already want a dollar of profit, they try only to grab mainly. Planning for their future is not expressed in plans for the development of production, but in plans that they can afford to buy, and how to do this you need to ... get the rest.
      I do not claim that all of these are, of course not, but the vast majority are without a doubt.
  10. nik-karata
    nik-karata 24 June 2016 12: 54
    +5
    who and what would not say, I believe that the USSR was much more social than the Russian Federation. Now an ordinary mortal (without a gold medal and a "furry paw") cannot get a budget place in a more or less normal university. Medicine, though "no", but paid. And so on in the text. The proverb will not grow out of nowhere: "there used to be times, but now there are moments. Before, the chemistry rose, and now the pressure." fellow But in Germany, until now, free medicine (albeit with insurance) and education, including and for the poor! everything said is my personal opinion, not heard from anyone.
    1. Nix1986
      Nix1986 24 June 2016 14: 12
      -2
      The most amazing thing is that all these Serdyukovs, Chubais and others come from your bright and sunny USSR, and the question is how the most social state could grow such a breakthrough of antisocial people ?!
    2. Joe stalin
      Joe stalin 24 June 2016 14: 35
      +11
      Is it really sho? yeah, say sho vi!

      In the Russian Federation, young people have no road - there is no job (they take only with work experience), there is no apartment (extremely expensive - the young cannot afford it), there is nowhere and nothing to start a family. Hence the demographic crisis. And when you, finally, by slave labor, earn your living or at least a mortgage and even get married - by that time you will be no longer young and the doctors will diagnose you with infertility. That is why we are dying out - under Stalin there was a dear to the young, under Putin it is not. Yes, you gave your youth to Putin, the bourgeoisie and the mafia, sacrificed your children to the Cockroach (see the tale for adults - K. Chukovsky "Cockroach") and you still blindly believe that Stalin is a bloody tyrant and that there is no alternative to Putin and that behind Navalny and the Maidan are not the despair of the robbed people, but America and the intergalactic conspiracy! The alternative to Putinism is Stalinism! In the USSR, after graduating from high school, young people received guaranteed jobs and housing, but the excellent students had more choice - this is what the words "At the table, no one is superfluous, everyone is awarded by merit". Therefore, under Stalin in the USSR, Russians actively multiplied despite the war, and under Yeltsin-Putin, we are dying out in the so-called "peacetime". So there is nothing to say "if only there was no war" and "there is no alternative" to crooks and thieves. The demographic war has been going on in Russia since 1991. And the alternative to crooks and thieves is Stalinism - the Stalinist version of socialism with the right to entrepreneurship.

      Thus, the modern Russian Federation is a giant step backward compared to the USSR.

      http://ateism.biz/stalin.htm
  11. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 24 June 2016 12: 55
    +1
    Quote: Pitot
    Frankly, I did not read the article. BUT. I read the headlines. And Conclusion. Put a plus. We also reached a certain border. Facets. In my understanding, Russia is now an oncological patient. It must be cut out alive - a tumor called chubanoisida and Co. Ministry of Education and Co. Medicine and Co. Duma of all levels and Co. To cut. And if an organism called Russia has strong immunity, it, Russia will squeeze out this garbage from itself and heal in spite of everything and everything ....

    A little further: presidency and Co.?
  12. st1342
    st1342 24 June 2016 12: 59
    +1
    Time was lost even under Brezhnev, when we carried out the economic reform of Liberman-Kosygin, then we could make a real breakthrough, especially in some areas (microelectronics, for example) we were ahead of the same states, but, unfortunately, the Soviet elite, as well as lower links, plant directors, etc. already thought about how to increase your level of consumption and materialize it into property that could be inherited, and the 90s as a consequence of this desire fits perfectly into this plan, privatization with the aim of transferring accumulated personal wealth and taking possession of the most delicious through it pieces of Soviet property, we remember well.
    1. MrK
      MrK 24 June 2016 22: 02
      +1
      Quote: st1342
      when carried out the economic reform of Liberman-Kosygin

      Dear st1342. You do not correctly interpret the Libermanian reform.
      I feel that you can’t imagine how much harm she brought to the economy of the USSR. Because, having allowed profit as the main criterion for the efficiency of enterprises, she thereby subordinated the national economy to the law of maximum profit with all the consequences that ensued, which did not take long.
      But the scariest, the saddest was different - the economy of the USSR began to work not as a single organism, but as a set of enterprises pursuing their small-town interests, and not of the whole country - system.
      I recommend reading the dying memories of Academician V.Glushkov on this subject. They are in the book of Alexander Kurlyandchik "Damned" Soviet power ... on Proza.ru. respectfully
  13. Joe stalin
    Joe stalin 24 June 2016 13: 01
    +14
    The economic policy of IV Stalin, which led to a phenomenal explosive growth in the industrial power of the USSR, was a DIRECT OPPOSITION of the monetarist, liberal policy of Putin’s advisers — Kudrin, Gref and Gaidar’s litter - HSE!

    Liberators - monetarists, who have been pursuing the course of turning the Russian Federation into a raw material appendage of the West and China for all 25 years, are aimed primarily at strangling the domestic industry and the agricultural exorbitant rate of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation and prohibitively expensive bank loans under the good pretext of "targeting inflation" inflation, but there is no development either: stability.
    Liberasts, as well as agents of the West, insist that the main engine of development should be FOREIGN investments, which is tantamount to turning Russia into a colony of the West not only by military but by economic means.
    We already went through this - in the Russian Empire by 1914 more than 80% of all industry was owned by European powers and at the beginning of the First World War it ended in a complete collapse of the military mobilization of the economy for the front, direct sabotage of the military state order (the shells in the army ended a month later !) after the outbreak of hostilities!)
    JV Stalin, regaining state control over the economy of the USSR, first of all annulled all foreign concessions - this is a matter of the country's economic security.

    JV Stalin (as S. Yu. Glazyev’s group offers Putin today) primarily stimulated the DOMESTIC DEMAND of the population, raising the solvency of the population by all means (raising salaries, lowering prices, etc.)



    Without nationalization, the main source of domestic investment - the extraction of natural resources (oil and gas, energy, railway industries, gold mining), no development of the Russian industry and its economy as a whole is possible!

    While 50% of the country's colossal income from the sale of raw materials will go to a handful of oligarchs (on yachts and clubs of Abramovich's Chelsea) instead of industrialization - Russia is doomed to rot as a raw material appendage of the EU and China!

    We are returning the socialist system and the system of Soviets to the Constitution of the Russian Federation on the model of the USSR Constitutions of 1936 and 1977, the best Soviet education standards in the world, the election of judges of all levels for a 5-year term, the right to recall deputies of Soviets of all levels, the right to work guaranteed by the state, we are restoring the INDUSTRY management of the public sector of the economy of the Russian Federation - line ministries in the Government of the Russian Federation, 5 - year plans for the development of the public sector of the economy as in China!
    1. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 24 June 2016 13: 07
      +5
      "Comrades at the helm" have a different opinion. After all, only they know what is best for people, each time realizing their exorbitant importance for Russia ...
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    3. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 24 June 2016 13: 33
      +3
      I’m not protecting anyone from the oligarchs, just let’s say for accuracy, Abramovich sold his gas assets to oil, went to the cache .... as they say .... and pay attention to which of the oil workers are in the juice itself .... yes yes Sechin and state-owned company Rosneft .... that's where the full w ...
    4. yehat
      yehat 24 June 2016 13: 34
      +1
      Why act stupidly, repeating tracing paper with its pluses and undeniable minuses?
      Personally, I did not forget the idiocy when you could buy any meat product in one city, shoes in another, a carpet in the third, and it was unrealistic to come and buy it near the house.
      You are now saying that you need to return to the old distribution system, to the old abscesses who destroyed the state from within. The USSR planned system had its advantages and they should be used to the full, but why copy ALL ??? The time is different! Technologies are different!
      For example, an election of 5 years is an archaism dictated by the cost of the procedure. With the development of the Internet, election must be current. People should be able to influence deputies / representatives in real time.
      Next, listen to Wasserman, he says often useful things. Information development is underway.
      There is no need to focus strictly on the public sector, private traders of various sizes can be actively involved, but they are seriously regulated by laws and regulations so that the planned economy does not disappear. This can close the weak point of the planned system - the diversification of the nomenclature of production and other products of state activity (for example, an order for different films, not only patriotic). Further, society should not obey a rigidly planned system.
      This is an important nuance! On the contrary, the planning system should obey the basic needs of society and, perhaps, it is worth thinking about some kind of symbiosis of the production market, calculated with a significant share of venture mechanisms for "atypical" needs and a planning system that is subordinated to strictly completely different tasks - to close clearly expressed needs with maximum quality and minimum costs.
      In the west, corporations with their planned economies and the market already have some kind of symbiosis, in my opinion, not very successful. It would be good to analyze this, to draw lessons and do better without copying old mistakes.
      To those who want to return precisely to the USSR, I recall that the country's economy
      to a large extent was built as providing military power.
      This is important, but now the issue is steeper - we need social, technological and cultural power, not just military power. This is the only way to survive.

      Enough to put people in front of an idiotic choice - step on the left or right rake !!!
    5. Pavel Koltunov
      Pavel Koltunov 24 June 2016 13: 54
      0
      Quote: Joe Stalin
      While 50% of the country's colossal income from the sale of raw materials will go to a handful of oligarchs (on yachts and clubs of Abramovich's Chelsea) instead of industrialization - Russia is doomed to rot as a raw material appendage of the EU and China!

      Sir, do you propose to divide such income among all? And for "industrialization" it is necessary to first change something, for example, the development strategy of the basic branches of the national economy (state farm). If you ask what industry we have adopted as the basis of prosperity, it will be interesting.
      1. KBR109
        KBR109 24 June 2016 14: 03
        +3
        No need to share. It is necessary to build industry and develop infrastructure.
      2. Joe stalin
        Joe stalin 24 June 2016 14: 26
        +4
        100% of income from raw materials - to the State Budget (for the forced industrialization of the public sector, the state - the locomotive of the economy as in China)
        1. yehat
          yehat 24 June 2016 15: 43
          +2
          rushing to extremes is necessary when standing on the edge
          100% of raw materials revenues in the budget is a failure of social support and a sharp increase in negativity - an increase in mortality, morbidity, the number of unemployed days, deterioration in productivity, not counting the creation of fermentation in society and the revolutionary situation.
          And when you are not on the edge, do not go there and approach. Why not start with simple, basic things first? For example, to take licenses from enterprises that spend less than a certain minimum on depreciation of fixed assets or where the difference in wages reaches 10-15 times?
          For example, I happened to work in a construction company, where the difference in wages reached up to 500 times. Or more carefully fight against the monopolies and part of their unfair margins. Can you forbid to do extra charges, say, 5%? or some industry indicators? all that is needed is to minimize speculation so that the economy does the work, not resale. But all this is pointless, while the refinancing rate is two-digit - it needs to be seriously reduced.
          1. Joe stalin
            Joe stalin 24 June 2016 16: 09
            +2
            Do you know how to understand Russian?

            I wrote: "100% of income from raw materials - in the STATE BUDGET",

            I did NOT write: "100% of the state budget revenues come from raw materials"!

            there is a difference?
      3. yehat
        yehat 24 June 2016 15: 18
        +3
        I counted here ...
        one excise tax on oil is enough to pay half of the pension to ALL - from 0 to 110 years old, to the inhabitants of the country. If you add to this the sale of other resources, believe me, many will not be able to work at all. This is me, in order to understand the scale of financial reserves.
        In no case do not want to force me to do this, but I want to point out unequivocally that the state, even without gigantic pension fund fees, has enough money to support everyone who needs it. This is important, because it is the basis, the basis for the growth of society, where you do not have to grumble at 4 jobs, getting a penny for cheap labor, but it’s enough to work 8 hours on one. It remains only to effectively invest cash resources and not burn them, and the only problem is this. There is no shortage of gross product or recoverable profit.
        All that is needed is just to go in the right direction, building free schools with free teachers, free medicine, free education (including professional and advanced training! This is now a very sore point!), Etc. by the list.
        1. Joe stalin
          Joe stalin 24 June 2016 16: 11
          +2
          only under Putin, and since 1991 in general, all these funds are not spent on national needs, but in the pocket of a handful of 15 to 20 oligarchs
        2. asiat_61
          asiat_61 26 June 2016 06: 28
          0
          It only remains to effectively invest the available resources and not burn them \ For this we need a PLAN. For a plan to appear, we need a goal. For a goal to appear, we need an idea! Ideology is prohibited by the Constitution. Then you can talk about anything.
  14. FID
    FID 24 June 2016 13: 08
    +4
    Recall the Beatles - Go that YUSSA !!!! (did not switch the keyboard)
    1. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 24 June 2016 13: 17
      -1
      It is high time...
    2. V.ic
      V.ic 24 June 2016 13: 27
      0
      Quote: SSI
      Recall the Beatles - Go that Ussa !!

      It was just a parody of Chuck Barry's "Back to the USA".
    3. Bayonet
      Bayonet 24 June 2016 13: 36
      0
      Quote: SSI
      Recall the Beatles - Go that YUSSA !!!!

      Well, if you remember, then it will be like this: I'm back in the USSR, - I returned to the USSR hi
  15. engineer74
    engineer74 24 June 2016 13: 33
    -4
    The article is about nothing! negative
    "Everything is bad with us, but a little less bad than in the 90s!"
    Thanks, I noticed!
    What to do? The author kept silent about this - "does not stir up" ...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 June 2016 14: 16
      -2
      An article from the rubric "They ruined it" - Maybe we were ruining it all together, and Yeltsin and his comrades simply helped us in this.
    2. yehat
      yehat 24 June 2016 14: 31
      +6
      Quote: engineer74

      What to do?

      and I will answer - do everything so that your personal opinion influences positively your environment.
      Haggle with your housing office for every penny on your receipts. Bargain with other service or product providers for any markup. If you chose a deputy, be sure to ask what he fulfilled from the promised and how he will pay for the unfulfilled and not at the end of the term, but preferably on time. Intervene in life around, making it a little fairer, a little better. Give up blind conformism - like tighten your belts, so Kudrin said. No, don't do that. Try to become as financially and personally independent as possible so that the state or the employer cannot mold you into cheap shit. Try to sell every hour of your time as expensive as possible, but not for free (alas, there are a lot of them and this is terrible), but by ensuring the quality of your work, your labor. This seemingly primitive egoism actually improves the quality of life around. Every person who has defended his right to receive a high salary for his real work (and not "intermediary services", speculation and other types of divorce) makes life better. Consistently vote for freedom, but not any, but social - tax cuts, increase in state guarantees, etc. and do not rush to run after slogans until you form YOUR opinion. Do everything so that you can be bent less socially or financially. This is how Europe came to the conclusion that life there is more or less good, struggling in the little things.
      In the USSR, local elected councils and committees of party, workers, administrations, etc. dealt with this. and according to the stories of the watchmen, they eradicated quite a bit of rot at the household level.
  16. Pavel Koltunov
    Pavel Koltunov 24 June 2016 13: 39
    +4
    Lost 25 years

    Why lost? I find it very useful. A negative result of 25 years was given by experience, and experience is a positive thing. So there are socialist revolutionary transformations ahead of us or you don’t want them (?)
    Glazyev won a hint, saying that it is necessary to introduce Workers' Control in organizations over finances, production and distribution, for what we are doing and for those who are doing.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 June 2016 14: 08
      -5
      And according to the dynamics of GDP growth in Russia from 2000 to 2016 - a negative trend was observed in 2008 to 2010 and from 2014 to the present - and even consider the fall of 5% of GDP per year as some kind of critical - not worth it.
      1. yehat
        yehat 24 June 2016 14: 40
        +3
        negative dynamics of GDP now is a consequence of speculation in the markets of currencies and resources
        in terms of goods and the cost of production, the economy did not fail and we should pay attention to exactly this when assessing, trying to defend the maximum quote when selling our product. Many understand this and therefore are calm. But the Central Bank and the government, alas, just threw everyone without supporting the quotation of the nat. currencies and provoking unfair commodity exchange.
    2. Joe stalin
      Joe stalin 24 June 2016 14: 11
      +10
      The LIBERAL GENOCIDE of the Russian people by poverty, unemployment, alcoholism, drugs, Western debauchery over the past 25 years can hardly be called "useful":

      during the reign of Yeltsin, the population of Russia (which is approximately equal to the number of Russians in the USSR in 1990) decreased by 5,7 million people,
      during the reign of Putin-Medvedev-by 7,5 million people.
      The total demographic loss over the past 25 years, taking into account the unborn, amounted to 31,3 million people!
      HITLER FOR 4 YEARS OF WAR LESS KILLED RUSSIAN PEOPLE LESS THAN LIBERASTS over the past 25 years!

      Demographic achievements of the "kgovy tyrant Stalin":

      The population of the USSR under Stalin increased from 136,8 million in 1920 to 208,8 million in 1959.
      The population of the RSFSR increased from approximately 87,8 million in 1923 to 106,7 million. in 1953, i.e. 22%
      The number of Russians (Great Russians, Little Russians, and Belarusians) during Stalin's rule increased according to censuses by an average of 1,3–1,5 million per year.
      1926 - 113,7 million
      1939 - 133 million
      1959 - 159,3 million

      WHERE THE "MILLIONS HUNTED" PERSONALLY BY STALIN?
    3. yehat
      yehat 24 June 2016 16: 09
      +1
      do not tell my slippers! Who will remember this experience? That cattle that is confidently grown in schools, which passes mathematics at the USE in such a way that the USSR did not even dream of, and cannot count without a calculator. Everything is already forgotten. Well, at least they haven’t even reached the Ukrainian mass inadequacy.
    4. Bayonet
      Bayonet 25 June 2016 06: 42
      0
      Quote: Pavel Koltunov
      Glazyev won a hint that they should introduce the Labor Control in organizations for finances, production and distribution,

      Only these "controllers" themselves will no longer work smile , they will "control"! (to the best of their education wink )
      1. asiat_61
        asiat_61 26 June 2016 06: 34
        0
        But someone must also control the controllers. And so on to infinity.
  17. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 24 June 2016 13: 43
    +2
    Now, at the present time, remembering the famous "seven bankers" ... they are children in short pants, compared to those who are now ..... the worst thing happened, all the oligarch officials are overwhelmed, yes, all rolled into one. ..gocompanies ... their management and boards of directors consider them their own .... and so on and so on and so on .... the worm has grown into a huge, million-headed hydra, devouring everything in its path into one insatiable sting. ..... and they don't care from the big bell tower that they need development, economic growth .... what Putin says, that there are all kinds of economic forums and so on ... they look into the eyes of the GDP with a passionate attitude ... even a bit like that the bone is thrown off ... from the master's table ... the Olympics in Sochi and so on a little more ... a disguised, cunning scum ... how to clean it, how to destroy it ... ..and all sorts of bad thoughts rummage in my head ... sorry for the confusion
  18. Squirrel has come
    Squirrel has come 24 June 2016 13: 48
    +3
    I agree with the article. After the betrayal of power and perestroika, I FEEL offended, because they began to impose on me a truth that is beneficial to them, that is, a lie, and not the true truth. I BELIEVE there is truth and a lie, the rest from the evil one ...
    But to tell the truth, you need to work a lot on yourself, to be responsible. Therefore, Orthodoxy cannot be defeated ...
  19. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 24 June 2016 13: 58
    +6
    Yeah. What we do not store, lost crying. Breaking - not building.
    Still, I am amazed at how easy it was ... to put the brains of the citizens of a huge country, so that it would collapse. Probably, traditional worship in front of everything abroad at the household level played an important role here. It seemed to everyone that we would abandon the "Sovka" and everything would be fine by itself. Even children eventually begin to understand that nothing happens by itself, and if it works, then by accident.
  20. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 24 June 2016 14: 08
    +7
    Normal economists, specialists, politicians have been talking about this from the very beginning of the reforms of the 90s. Then the authorities had the full opportunity to create a new socio-economic order that would fully meet the interests of the majority of the PEOPLE OF RUSSIA, create comfortable conditions for the economy, business, individuals, ensure the security and stability of the economic system and the lives of Russian citizens. The liberals put all this under the knife, the current government, represented by the top officials of the state and the rest of the government, is doing the same thing, the reflection of their work - CRISIS, SANCTIONS, which speaks of the professionalism of these people in power. Two years of sanctions and a crisis, WE do not see a worthy, professionally prepared program for overcoming this impasse, some convulsive movements of the authorities, funny, stupid, mediocre proposals of the government, the same liberals in the face of "kudronomics". I am ashamed that the country has 40% of the world's natural resources, has not yet completely wasted intellectual, scientific potential Created in the USSR, 23 million people live below the poverty line, for that a small handful of people created "communism" and all this policy was confirmed in the St. Petersburg Economic Forum, they talked about everything just not about how to improve, raise the level of income and life of the bulk of Russian citizens on whose shoulders lies all this corrupt government and rotten, rotten "elite" and its economic reforms, about the PEOPLE AND HIS LIFE DID NOT SAY ANYTHING, that's the whole story about development, just talkers, hustlers and thieves!
  21. atamankko
    atamankko 24 June 2016 14: 09
    +7
    The article is not bad, comments are better.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 24 June 2016 17: 18
      +2
      Quote: atamankko
      The article is not bad, comments are better.

      Oh, and many times better!
  22. Alex_Tug
    Alex_Tug 24 June 2016 14: 10
    +4
    The same "Soviet" approach is not difficult to notice in the reform of Western countries of their medical systems. Democrats praise Barack Obama for the fact that the reform of the health insurance system carried out upon his submission will make it possible to cover 95% of the population with free services over the years. But we are talking only about basic, cheap medical services - complicated cases and a number of diseases are not covered by free insurance. In the USSR, the last farmer from an Uzbek village could be treated free of charge in a Moscow clinic in the direction from his republican center.

    What is nonsense about? Specifically, we must rejoice in medicine in the USSR. In Canada, it is the same as in the USSR.
    1. Joe stalin
      Joe stalin 24 June 2016 14: 28
      +10
      Japanese billionaire Herosi Terawama in response to the ranting of Soviet economists and sociologists about the "Japanese miracle":

      “You are not talking about the main thing. About your leading role in the world. In 1939, you Russians were smart, and we Japanese were fools. In 1949, you became even smarter, and we were fools so far. And in 1955, we wised up, and you turned into five-year-old children. Our entire economic system is almost completely copied from yours, with the only difference being that we have capitalism, private producers, and we have never achieved more than 15% growth, but with public ownership of the means of production you have reached 30% or more. In all of our firms hang your slogans of the Stalin era ”
      1. yehat
        yehat 24 June 2016 15: 29
        +4
        I highly recommend chatting with the Japanese
        almost everyone has a middle-class lifestyle there.
        The salary is not gorgeous, but it is enough for all social needs.
        And everyone works there. Even some home-staying girls, if they don’t work for an uncle, take care of all the household chores, and don’t get hung up on just that, actively working on themselves, education, talking with friends and art, while they don’t spend all their time in shops, salons beauty and ponto parties.
        There, people understand that life is built only when you do something useful.
        1. Joe stalin
          Joe stalin 24 June 2016 15: 51
          0
          and all apartments with a doghouse laughing
          1. yehat
            yehat 24 June 2016 15: 59
            +1
            it's a lie
            even in Tokyo, not a few Japanese live in their one-story houses
            moreover, it is quite possible to acquire these houses; this is generally a very specific topic of how they get to the Japanese.
            The cost of renting a rented apartment on the outskirts is close to similar prices in St. Petersburg with immeasurably greater guarantees and the level of quality and level of remuneration of ordinary people. The cost of similar housing is BELOW - due to the fact that the Japanese do not have central heating, finer wall insulation, no impudent monopolies and labor productivity is usually higher.
            very often housing well maintained with quality finishes.
            as for the "doghouse", then most likely there is a distortion. Because the area in hotels is rapidly falling and the ceilings and window sills in residential buildings are often lower than we are used to. There is even a famous hotel, which sells residential boxes 2-4 meters long. Very popular because of the price.
            if you move away from the central urban development, the average area of ​​houses is not much different from ours.
            1. Joe stalin
              Joe stalin 24 June 2016 16: 17
              0
              Broad is my native country!
  23. Squirrel has come
    Squirrel has come 24 June 2016 14: 32
    +4
    Forgive me people, I am angry at everything that happens in the country since then ....
  24. cedar
    cedar 24 June 2016 18: 22
    +4
    The author has only statements without any conclusions. I think 25 years were not in vain. We sniffed this capitalism. Unfolded its shining and inviting wrapper, and there is a g-o, which declares to the whole world that it is gold ..! Many fell for this lie, which pervades the entire Western society of "freedom and democracy." We draw conclusions, dear, and do our best to get out of this western trap. After all, 25 years is a vanishingly small value in comparison with eternity, there is nothing more to console you. Hold on ...
  25. igor67
    igor67 24 June 2016 18: 49
    +2
    Quote: Vadim237
    Palpable growth

    Maybe all the same there is growth in Russia, if there are such bribes, they now said on the news that the governor of the Kirov region had been arrested while receiving a bribe of 400000 euros in cash, from where did such money come from? So the one who gave should have well eight-digit numbers on the accounts
    1. Massik
      Massik 24 June 2016 19: 57
      +1
      But what's the point, so you can remove any, they are all one anointed there. Right now he will be quietly purred for 2-3 months and released. An example of a cornflower and Serduchka has shown this clearly. They don’t let their own there.
      I am from the Kirov region and I don’t see any difference what comes to whites, what comes after.
      Today by the way I heard from fellow stokers ...
      -Well, it's time to go around the city with banners, demand a salary ...
      - Yes, what banners, machine guns need to get. Build all this ... kul and bring down.
      1. olimpiada15
        olimpiada15 24 June 2016 22: 18
        0
        I think about Belykh, I’ve got caught, well, they’ll remove them from the governors, he will leave for London, where he has children.
        And who will they put? Well, is there at least someone from the grabs class in power? No, this does not exist in nature. There is no difference between those who were, who are and who will come.
        One of the commentators blames the people. The people could not do anything.
        There is no reception against scrap. She worked at an enterprise where social issues were simply fabulous. Of course thanks to the leadership. And in the transition to a market economy, he would live and prosper - these products have eternal demand. But the enterprise was destroyed, managers were removed, people were broken. Who did this? Local authorities, those who were in the leadership of the area. Because they broke the fate of strong people, the KGB worked. Ruined, plundered, destroyed.
      2. Bayonet
        Bayonet 25 June 2016 07: 02
        0
        Quote: Marssik
        But what's the point, so you can remove any, they are all one anointed there.

        Why only THERE? Now get your stokers to the "feeder", what will they become? wink You didn’t see how people’s power changes - you sat with him at the same table yesterday, drank vodka and called your brother, but today he doesn’t notice you. All the same, this mentality. As the satirist said:
        - What is the first desire of our man who has risen to the top?
        - spit down!
  26. passing
    passing 24 June 2016 20: 08
    +1
    you look at our first person! He's at a dead end, and eat a fish, and ... a bone does not choke. It is necessary to make decisions on our "reformers" who are still helping to destroy the country.
  27. fa2998
    fa2998 24 June 2016 21: 10
    +2
    Quote: PHANTOM-AS
    And just do not blame everything on the 90s, everything continues to this day. To hell, such achievements, together with such leaders, rulers

    With the Soviets, the tsarist government, civil war and intervention are to blame for "temporary difficulties". Now, in the 21st century, our leadership is all nodding toward the 90s of the last century! We need to work, not stuff our pockets. The Putin-Medvedev tandem has been in power for 16 years, you can already something to do to make life easier for the people. I think another 50 years will be blamed for the "nineties". I just want to know, and our current leaders did what they did in the 90s! negative hi
  28. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 25 June 2016 02: 01
    -1
    Sooner or later, after 10 or 100 years, but Russia
    will have to build a liberal democratic society and
    and private (not state) capitalism.
    This is the stage through which it is impossible to jump into the evolution of the country.
    Whether it’s the first attempt, like some countries, or several ... I don’t know.
    But only after the success of this stage can we talk about further steps.
    1. noWAR
      noWAR 25 June 2016 05: 08
      -1
      Who about what, and lousy about the bath. I saw your lousy capitalism in the repentance of descendants. A system based on the enrichment of some at the expense of others cannot be the goal of a future society a priori. Keep your liberal democratic capitalism to yourself. 100 years ago we were not on the way with you.
    2. Joe stalin
      Joe stalin 25 June 2016 23: 22
      0
      a liberal model of capitalism in the world is possible only if the "golden billion" of third world countries are robbed - if the US loses the dollar as a world currency and TNCs the opportunity to pump cheap resources from Asia and Africa - "a showcase of world prosperity" - the US and Geyropa will collapse into poverty.

      The highest stage of development is a nation-wide socialist state based on a fair redistribution of public goods in order to equalize social inequality, which is so clearly expressed in the teaching of Moshe - Rabeinu.

      This is what Geyropa is heading for - Sweden, the recent referendum in Switzerland, the public health system in England and Germany)

      By the way, Israel as a state began with socialist kibbutzim and the socialist idea of ​​equalizing public welfare pervades the entire Torah (support for the impoverished, interest-free loan to its people, land as a national value)
    3. asiat_61
      asiat_61 26 June 2016 06: 41
      0
      Bullshit, well, really bullshit.
  29. Ros 56
    Ros 56 25 June 2016 09: 16
    +1
    Do not hell whining on lost years, they can no longer be returned. It is necessary to draw conclusions and move on.
  30. trantor
    trantor 25 June 2016 18: 55
    0
    Well, everything is very brightly written. But all this has already been discussed hundreds of times: the medicine used to treat the late USSR was used in such doses that it became poison. Moreover, doctors were pests.

    And what does the author offer us, besides wailing about missed opportunities?