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UEC mastered the production of Russian engines for Mi-38

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United Engine Corporation (UEC) began mass production of TV7-117В engines for Mi-38 helicopters. Previously, the engines were produced only in Ukraine, reports TASS a message from a representative of the corporation Anastasia Denisova.




“In total, up to 2020 of the year, it is planned to produce at least 200 of various modifications (turboshaft and turboprop). Prior to this, engines for our civilian and combat vehicles were made exclusively in Ukraine. Now the TV7-117B engines are made from parts, components and components fully mastered in the country, ”said Denisova.

According to her, "the base engine is among the best world samples of this class in terms of efficiency, reliability and resources."

Denisova noted that “the peculiarity of this family of engines is to ensure the safety of the helicopter in extreme situations by introducing emergency power regimes 2800 - 3750 l. with.".

As for the turboprop engine modifications, they "can be used on IL-114 and IL-112В aircraft".

It is also reported that "the main suppliers of components for the final assembly at JSC" Klimov "were JSC" MMP named after V. Chernyshev ", JSC" Gas-turbine engineering and production center "Salyut" and other enterprises included in the UEC ".
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Marina Lystseva / TASS
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  1. bulvas
    bulvas 23 June 2016 14: 15
    +25

    That is, Motor Sich remained in your memories?




    1. Khariton
      Khariton 23 June 2016 14: 20
      -23%
      They lie, but I think they will master ...
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        1. sgazeev
          sgazeev 24 June 2016 09: 21
          0
          Quote: PKK
          I hope the Sichevsk specialists are already there? Let the perfumeers work for a solid salary.

          But one small-town oracle is broadcasting. The emissary added that Russia will need at least ten years to replace Ukrainian helicopter engines with its own developments. laughing
      3. engineer74
        engineer74 23 June 2016 16: 19
        +7
        Quote: Chariton
        They lie, but I think they will master ...

        It’s not that they are completely lying, but they ran ahead to the quarter ...
        And as for 200 TV7-117 until 2020, they are also stingy! smile
        Quote: PKK
        I hope the Sichevsk specialists are already there? Let the perfumeers work for a solid salary.

        On the spot smile besides "hard wages", there is a better incentive - the grave! Their military registration and enlistment offices for large enterprises "by area" are working!
      4. Neputin
        Neputin 23 June 2016 18: 16
        +7
        "We must build our economy so that our country does not turn into an appendage of the capitalist system, so that it is not included in the general system of capitalist development as its subsidiary enterprise ... but as an independent economic unit based mainly on the internal market ... "JV Stalin. If they follow the precepts of Joseph Vissarionovich, they will certainly master. I believe.
      5. sgazeev
        sgazeev 24 June 2016 09: 19
        0
        Quote: Chariton
        They lie, but I think they will master ...

        "The news is negative for Motor Sich, which supplies Russia with military and dual-purpose engines for helicopters, aircraft and missiles. Motor Sich supplies engines for civilian and military helicopters, as well as tactical missiles and combat training aircraft. supplied to Russia account for only 15% of Motor Sich's income, but if we include dual-purpose engines, including modifications of the TV3-117 helicopter engine, then these products account for 52% of the company's revenue for 2013, i.e. That is, almost $ 550 million. Helicopters equipped with these engines are mass-produced only in Russia, so it will be impossible to restore this source of income without de-escalating the conflict, "Andreichenko said.

        "(The embargo on the supply of dual-use equipment) may mean a complete loss of the Russian market for Motor Sich," believes Alexander Paraschiy, head of research at the investment company Concorde Capital. "At the moment, Motor Sich is an almost monopoly manufacturer of engines for Russian helicopters ".
    2. Terminolol
      Terminolol 23 June 2016 14: 21
      +4
      It seems that YES. America and Europe do not need, and who will negotiate major contracts with Ukraine now ...
    3. tiredwithall
      tiredwithall 23 June 2016 14: 23
      +3
      But were there any alternatives?
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    5. Andrey K
      Andrey K 23 June 2016 14: 32
      +25
      Quote: bulvas
      That is, Motor Sich remained in your memories?

      Not only that Motor Sich was out of work, so our home-grown "all-propals" got into a puddle laughing
      1. Khariton
        Khariton 23 June 2016 14: 37
        -8
        Who else has an opinion ..? hi
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 23 June 2016 14: 48
          +8
          “In total, it is planned to produce at least 2020 of various modifications (turboshaft and turboprop) before 200.

          I think that the number of engines that will be released before the 2020, the JDC, we will not be enough. Therefore, I do not exclude the purchase of Ukrainian engines. But when the UEC turns on all 100%, then the Goodbye Motor Sich.
          1. GUS
            GUS 23 June 2016 14: 55
            +5
            Quote: SRC P-15
            “In total, it is planned to produce at least 2020 of various modifications (turboshaft and turboprop) before 200.

            I think that the number of engines that will be released before the 2020, the JDC, we will not be enough. Therefore, I do not exclude the purchase of Ukrainian engines. But when the UEC turns on all 100%, then the Goodbye Motor Sich.

            I think it’s right not “200 different modifications”, but “200 engines of different modifications”.
            And the news, of course, is good, especially considering that the same engines in a turbo-propeller configuration will go to the Ilys, which are planned to replace the old Anas. To be fair, it's too early to say goodbye to Motorsich. The problem is with TV3-117 and descendants used on Mi-8 and combat helicopters. TV7-117V cannot replace them: it is larger and has a slightly different layout.
            1. Chatlanen
              Chatlanen 23 June 2016 15: 04
              +2
              Explain who knows who has the rights to this engine? Ukraine produces it under license?
              1. engineer74
                engineer74 23 June 2016 16: 32
                +2
                Quote: Chatlanen
                Explain who knows who has the rights to this engine? Ukraine produces it under license?

                Klimov has the rights, but Progress has the rights to the AI-222, plus the fact that Motor Sich has been working hard and hard to fine-tune and modernize TV-3 for a long time, "this is such a squiggle" (c) wassat . Therefore, by the way, VK-2500 appeared. hi
          2. Irokez
            Irokez 23 June 2016 15: 36
            +2
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            I think that the number of engines that the UEC will produce before 2020 will not be enough for us.

            Do not forget you can still restore the old and overhaul for the time being, and spare parts even from Sich can be smuggled because hunger is not a joke.
            Not only that, if a foreign customer buys our helicopters with Sich engines, they can buy engines from them, and send them to us to put them in helicopters and then they will also receive these engines in Russian packaging and even with screws. Everything is interesting and possible in every way.
            1. Orionvit
              Orionvit 23 June 2016 23: 00
              +2
              TV3-117 Klimovskaya development, but was initially produced in Zaporozhye, where over the decades it was brought to almost perfection. Engines are still shipped from Motor Sich, only without fuel equipment (it is already produced in Russia), so they are not considered products.
        2. Alekseev
          Alekseev 23 June 2016 15: 06
          +3
          Quote: Chariton
          Who else has an opinion ..?

          The serial production of helicopter engines in the Russian Federation, of course, will be adjusted in the required quantity.
          Including because this Russian engine. Klimova Design Bureau developed quite a long time ago, in the 70s of the last century.
          Yes, a serial plant in Ukraine. And the series is also very difficult, but quite solvable.
          What about Motor Sich? What is motor sich? Will sell high-quality goods inexpensively - still will live.
          1. edeligor
            edeligor 23 June 2016 15: 54
            +9
            Quote: Alekseev
            What about Motor Sich?

            Already sore from this "Sich". I will never believe that all the equipment for these engines is made in ruins, do not go to the grandmother, spare parts are 40% Russian. Accordingly, I heard that the engines are still going to Russia. As it actually happens, the question is. In my opinion, the sooner we get rid of such "cooperation" the better for us. Do not forget the possibilities of "podlyanka" from the "warriors of light" and their mentors "overseas elfs".
      2. gg.na
        gg.na 23 June 2016 15: 07
        +1
        Quote: Andrey K
        "vsepalschiki", sat in a puddle

        well let them sit maybe cool lol !
      3. demchuk.ig
        demchuk.ig 23 June 2016 17: 03
        +3
        Quote: Andrey K
        Not only that Motor Sich was out of work, so our home-grown "all-propals" got into a puddle

        Yes, and to hell with them "vsepapalschikami"! The main thing we started to produce products that should have been produced at home for a long time!
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    7. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 23 June 2016 15: 13
      +3
      It seems that the curators of the Guinness Revolution had two main motives: to squeeze the Russians out of the Crimea, placing their bases there, and crush the Russian defense industry, breaking its ties with the Ukrainian military-industrial complex. As soon as the fakir is finally convinced that both tricks have failed, interest in the square will be lost forever.
    8. avt
      avt 23 June 2016 15: 50
      +5
      Quote: bulvas
      That is, Motor Sich remained in your memories?

      Quote: tiredwithall
      were there any alternatives?

      Exactly in the Maydan period, the site spoke to completely stupid visitors about such a prospect that a karachun would come. Yes, in fact, Boguslavlev, the old one was hit, shortly before the Maidan he began to move to the sites in Russia.
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 23 June 2016 16: 27
        +1
        AVT, good day! I also remember the statements of Boguslaev that UEC is working together in the Russian Federation. That’s who it was necessary to promote in the presidency of Ukraine - he certainly would not have done this, knowing the significance of Russia for the industry of Ukraine. Surely he brought specialists from Ukraine, as I recall, he also said something about equipment (i.e. he was engaged in equipment).
        Interestingly, this is not the 8km engine. can lift the Mi-8? hi
        1. avt
          avt 23 June 2016 17: 42
          +1
          Quote: Kasym
          . That’s who it was necessary to promote in the presidency of Ukraine - he certainly would not have done this, knowing the significance of Russia for the industry of Ukraine.

          request Well, he didn’t take off hats from people on a youngster, and he wasn’t even noticed banderlose. How can it be that without the presidency of Ukraine ??? laughingAnd he is quite a good manager. There are now such "economists" needed
          "Ukraine has lost more than $ 50 billion due to the low gas price. The market price of gas makes it possible to overcome corruption in the gas sector," Groisman said.
          justifying the IMF order to raise tariffs for the population.
          Quote: Kasym
          Interestingly, this is not the 8km engine. can lift the Mi-8?

          I won’t lie - I don’t know the details.
  2. dsm100
    dsm100 23 June 2016 14: 17
    +8
    If so, well done. With Ukrainians will no longer be useless.
  3. Marlen
    Marlen 23 June 2016 14: 19
    +8
    The main thing is that the quality would be on top.
    1. reservist
      reservist 23 June 2016 14: 49
      +1
      I would like to hear comments from experts
      However, while the engine is certified for an overhaul life of only 100 hours of operation. And this indicator of the UEC will be increased in the near future as part of an open experimental design work. The contract with the Ministry of Defense is one of the possibilities to bring the engine to the required operational characteristics.

      izvestia.ru/news/619188#ixzz4CP0daVmu
    2. Homo
      Homo 23 June 2016 15: 06
      0
      Quote: Marlen
      The main thing is that the quality would be on top.

      You are wrong (and plusers too). In this situation, the main thing is YOURS! And the quality will be raised in the following modifications. hi
      1. reservist
        reservist 23 June 2016 15: 58
        0
        Would you buy cars for your own with a service interval of 5000 km or (if there was such an opportunity) wait for the next modification?

        but the news is still positive ...
        1. Homo
          Homo 23 June 2016 18: 35
          -2
          Quote: reservist
          Would you buy cars for your own with a service interval of 5000 km or (if there was such an opportunity) wait for the next modification?

          Yes, if the question was about buying from a country that considers us an aggressor and calls for war with us.
          Russia has three options:
          - their own with less resources (independence in the future),
          - purchase (financing) of a country that considers us an aggressor,
          - Do not buy (do not build ships) at all.
          Choose! hi
          1. reservist
            reservist 23 June 2016 19: 59
            +1
            I choose the fourth option - to lure / recruit specialists from the country that considers us an aggressor

            arguments:
            - in the foreseeable time we bring our engines to mind
            - do not finance a country that considers us an aggressor

            the tested version, the Italian Bruno Maximovich Pontekorvo worked in our Dubna ...
            1. Homo
              Homo 24 June 2016 00: 51
              0
              Quote: reservist
              I choose the fourth option - to lure / recruit specialists from the country that considers us an aggressor

              Here are those zombie or recruited? To our defense industry? Nafig, nafig such an option!
              1. reservist
                reservist 24 June 2016 12: 28
                0
                recruits are not needed, but with the zombies, not everything is hopeless ...
                Philistine - a public creature and amenable to suggestion, usually changes his views when changing the environment
  4. Terminolol
    Terminolol 23 June 2016 14: 19
    +17
    That Ukrainians had fun ...
    On the other hand, you can say "thank you" for this, otherwise you would depend on them.
    1. dsm100
      dsm100 23 June 2016 14: 21
      +5
      That is yes. It would be happiness, but misfortune helped.
  5. Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer 23 June 2016 14: 21
    +7
    Information for the Ukrainian Motor Sich! This, and there is such a concept in Russian speech as "jumped"! Jump on, we don't mind.
  6. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 23 June 2016 14: 22
    +12
    It is high time. Hi Euro / Ukrosanctions. By the way, this engine on the IL-114 + aircraft itself.

    [img] http://expert.ru/data/public/471718/471720/912-il.jpg [img]
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  7. dsm100
    dsm100 23 June 2016 14: 25
    +8
    It would still be faster to master the production of marine engines, otherwise our ships are being built with a lag due to the lack of engines.
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 23 June 2016 14: 53
      +1
      Quote: dsm100
      Still, to quickly master the production of marine engines,

      SOON THE FAIRY TALE IS TOLD, YES NOT SOON THE MATTER IS DONE. Fast smth. done only in words, but in fact - much slower.
  8. red joni
    red joni 23 June 2016 14: 28
    +3
    right well done, and Ukraine from a dead donkey ears will only remain
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 23 June 2016 14: 57
      +5
      Quote: red joni
      and in Ukraine from the dead donkey ears will only remain

      This is their big headache in the future. Instead of helicopter engines in Vinnitsa, they mastered the production and export of donkey milk to Geyropa. Don’t think donkeys are milked. As many as 32 donkeys are used to produce donkey milk. Well, how much euro can you earn? belay
  9. Mister22408
    Mister22408 23 June 2016 14: 31
    +2
    We will not extinguish the Sich, but those who want to climb with their turntables into the world niche "Mi" (whose THAT is done by "Sich"). There will be an administrative resource.
  10. dsm100
    dsm100 23 June 2016 14: 33
    +4
    The perspectives of Motor Sich, as they say, are like a "ball", it's like a joke. Actually engines for lawn mowers will be produced or something like that.
  11. Arkan
    Arkan 23 June 2016 14: 34
    +4
    We got rid of the "horses". Another would be to produce engines for the fleet on their own.
  12. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 June 2016 14: 35
    +17
    When the "roast cock" arrives, the Russian's engineering thought soars upward, and the most difficult tasks are solved in the shortest possible time. Therefore, our people are INVINCIBLE, since the hegemon is fighting us with a weapon that is strictly opposite to the one that can defeat Russia. Instead of making the price of a barrel $ 200 and feeding the bear with honey so that he could not move from the fat, they began to tease him in every possible way and make him run. Now get what you wanted.
  13. Snowden
    Snowden 23 June 2016 15: 18
    +4
    Engines produced at the Klimov plant
    while reliability is not different, in helicopter units they prefer Ukrainian-made Tv3-117 engines, but I think this is temporary.
  14. Pitot
    Pitot 23 June 2016 15: 28
    +1
    There would be no happiness, but misfortune helped ....
  15. aviaexpert
    aviaexpert 23 June 2016 15: 37
    +15
    United Engine Corporation (UEC) began mass production of TV7-117V engines for Mi-38 helicopters. Previously, engines were produced only in Ukraine, reports TASS the message of the representative of the corporation Anastasia Denisova.

    Anastasia Denisova should be driven out of the UEC for such information! The TV7-117V engine is a completely new development of Klimov (2015) and has nothing to do with the "territory of Ukraine" (read "Motor Sich"). It had nothing to do with Motor Sich and the prototype of this engine - the aircraft version of TV7-117S, which was produced at Chernyshev and in Omsk.

    Вtoday it is planned to produce at least 200 different modifications (turboshaft and turboprop).

    Naturally, I mean 200 engines of various modifications.
  16. atamankko
    atamankko 23 June 2016 16: 05
    +3
    Ukrainians again moved their economy to the side,
    jump on, banderahochland.
    1. PKK
      PKK 23 June 2016 16: 23
      +1
      This is the top, maydanuty, dirty tricks, and the plant suffers because of this.
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 23 June 2016 22: 54
        +2
        The first decree after the Maidan was a decree banning the supply of aircraft engines to Russia. I've always wondered who they are doing worse. Or it seems to spite my grandmother I will frostbitten my ears. Russia will do just fine without Ukraine, but the salaries for Motor Sich are now $ 100, although three years ago I earned 700-800. To ditch such an enterprise, no words.
  17. cedar
    cedar 23 June 2016 17: 07
    +3
    Quote: PKK
    This is the top, maydanuty, dirtyand the plant suffers because of this.


    That's just the point. Khokhlov is ruled by Anglo-American advisers from the Fed, IMF and the State Department. Only the blind man does not see, and the deaf does not hear that Vukrayna is uniformly occupied. Ukrainian and Russian Slavs are charged in the ATO and driven to slaughter against the same poor fellows from Donbas as they are. Other nationalities, and they are rich in Ukraine, you most likely will not find in battle formations. They are in nat baht, parliament, in banks with finances, etc. And you are all Ukrainians and Ukrainians, jumped, jumped ... Radar switch to the far zone. Look at the root.
  18. antivirus
    antivirus 23 June 2016 19: 47
    0
    Chatting not bags tossing or turning (or tossing?)
    If you go back to the 90th year on air transportation, then there will be little in total: both engines and inspection authorities.
  19. Denis Lebedev
    Denis Lebedev 23 June 2016 22: 10
    0
    I think it’s right not “200 different modifications”, but “200 engines of different modifications”.
    This is a sentence to continue the context of the previous paragraph, so that everything is correctly written.
  20. Orionvit
    Orionvit 23 June 2016 22: 48
    0
    Quote: PKK
    I hope the Sichevsk specialists are already there? Let the perfumeers work for a solid salary.

    Where to go right away? To Gatchina? True, I specialized in others, not helicopter engines.