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"Africanization of the land." How Zimbabwe and South Africa will nationalize the land of European farmers

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Once, areas in the very south of the African continent attracted European colonists — the Dutch, the Germans, the British ... The largest settlements of Europeans arose on the territory of the modern South African Republic (South Africa). It formed a special nation of "African Europeans" - the Boers, there was even a new language - Afrikaans. Less numerous were the settlements of European colonists in Southern Rhodesia. However, the power of the white minority in Rhodesia and South Africa did not like the black majority of the population - representatives of local African bantu-speaking peoples. Formed national liberation organizations, formally considered socialist or communist, but in fact expressed the interests of the tribes.

In the end, not without the support of the world community, in 1980, the political independence of the new African state of Zimbabwe was proclaimed. Robert Gabriel Mugabe, the leader of the African National Union of Zimbabwe (ZANU), who won the election, became its prime minister, and since 1987, the president. Unlike many other leaders of the national liberation movement in South Africa, Robert Mugabe focused not so much on the Soviet Union, as on China and North Korea. However, in the domestic economic policy, Mugabe was very pragmatic. For a long time, he preferred not to touch the white farmers, who constituted an impressive minority of the country's population and made a huge contribution to its economic prosperity. Although Mugabe promised Zimbabweans to “nationalize the land,” that is, redistribute the property of white farmers to black peasants, he tried not to fulfill his promises during the first decade and a half of his rule.

Obviously, Mugabe, a thin and pragmatic politician, was well aware that without white farmers, the country's economy would quickly "die down" and Zimbabwe, which inherited many of the positive achievements of Southern Rhodesia, would quickly fall into the level of most of its neighbors - poor underdeveloped countries that are completely independent in economic respect. Zimbabwe was a rare exception from the general panorama of poor African countries - and the main explanation for this is not even rich natural resources (many other African countries, such as Sierra Leone or Niger, which nevertheless exist in extreme poverty, are no less rich in resources. ), and the presence of a “white” sector of the economy. Over 70% of Zimbabwean lands, and after independence, the country remained in the hands of white farmers - the British, Germans, Boers. Naturally, this caused a negative reaction from many veterans of the national liberation struggle, who considered themselves deprived. But until a certain time, Robert Mugabe did not allow to touch the white farmers. And they were not touched - until the middle of the 1990s, they felt quite comfortable in Zimbabwe, although, of course, their position was no longer comparable to what it was during the existence of Southern Rhodesia.

The second half of the 1990-s was for Zimbabwe the beginning of the “black band” in modern stories. The economic situation in the country has worsened, a rather active opposition appeared, dissatisfied with the 15-year stay in power of Robert Mugabe. Under these conditions, the head of state needed support from the majority of the population, the most active group of which was veterans of the national liberation struggle - people who had real combat experience and who were ready, at the direction of their leaders, to proceed to violent actions against anyone whom the “masters” would point out. To satisfy the aspirations of the poorest strata of the Zimbabwean population, Mugabe could only one way - nationalize the land from white farmers. Twenty years after the declaration of independence, the very nationalization of the land, which Mugabe spoke about in 1980, became a reality.

Agrarian reform was scheduled for February 2000. In its implementation, Robert Mugabe needed the help of "social activists" - and she came. The main driving force behind the "Africanization" of Zimbabwean agricultural land was the Association of Veterans of the Fight for Independence - a military-political organization that received special privileges from the country's president. Recall that the Association of demobilized fighters ZANLA (military wing of the party ZANU) and ZIPRA (military wing of the party ZAPU) was established immediately after the proclamation of Zimbabwe’s state sovereignty - in 1980 year. She united over 30 thousands of people who took part in the national liberation war in Southern Rhodesia as commanders, political workers, ordinary soldiers. As members of the Association were virtually all the leaders and senior officers of the Zimbabwean security forces, she received unlimited support from the army and the police. Robert Mugabe created a special Ministry of Veterans Affairs, knowing full well that it was yesterday’s independence fighters that were his main and most reliable support. It was the members of the Association of Veterans who had to implement the agrarian reform, good for this they had all the necessary resources - aggression, combat experience, readiness for violent actions, weapon and, most importantly, support from the Zimbabwean authorities.

"Africanization of the land." How Zimbabwe and South Africa will nationalize the land of European farmers


The Zimbabwean politician Chengerai Hunzwi (2000-1949), also known as Hitler, quite speakingly, served as chairman of the Association of Veterans of the struggle for independence in February 2001. Coming from the Shona peasants, Hunzvi was a tribesman of Robert Mugabe himself. According to Hitler, in his youth, at the age of sixteen, he participated in the national liberation struggle, was a partisan. However, in fact, the history of the real participation of Hunzvi in ​​the national liberation struggle is very vague. But it is known that in 1974, the 25-year-old Rhodesian Chengerai Hunzvi went to Europe to continue his education. He studied in Romania and Poland - then the socialist countries, received a diploma in medical education. More than medicine, Hunzwi attracted a political career and he quite happily worked in the diplomatic field, acting as a representative of the ZAPU in the Polish People's Republic, and in 1979, one of the representatives of the rebel movement of the peoples of Southern Rhodesia at the Lancasterhaus conference in London, during Through the mediation of Great Britain, negotiations were held between the government of Zimbabwe-Rhodesia and the rebel movements ZANU and ZAPU.

In Zimbabwe, Chengerai Hunzwi returned only in 1990, ten years after declaring political independence, and remembered his diploma - he began working as a doctor at Harare Central Hospital, and later managed to open his own private clinic in Budiriro. In Zimbabwe, Hunzwi joined the Association of Veterans of the Struggle for Independence and, although unlike many high-ranking former partisans, Hunzwi’s personal participation in the guerrilla struggle was very contradictory and fragmentary information, he managed to make a dizzying career in the Association and become its chairman. The oratory gift of Hunzwie and the ability to convince people played his role. The role of the leader of "Hitler" fit much more than any other activist of the Association. In 1997, Chengerai Hunzwi took the chair of the Association. He immediately began to actively lobby the interests of veterans. In particular, Hunzwi launched a campaign for paying one-time allowance in the amount of 4000 US dollars and monthly state allowances in US 2000 to the veterans of the national liberation struggle. Hunzwi also demanded to extend veteran benefits to women who did not participate in hostilities, but were informers of the national liberation movement. Of course, such fabulous sums by the standards of Zimbabwe, which Hunzwi said, no one veterans did not pay, but the payment of one-time allowance in 2500 US dollars and monthly allowances in 100 US dollars became a reality. So Chendzherai Hunzvi was even more popular among veterans of the national liberation struggle, and the country’s financial system was dealt a serious blow — veterans and people involved in the struggle for independence in Zimbabwe are quite numerous and in order to pay them regular benefits, considerable amounts were required by the standards of this country . Get them and supposed due to the robbery of white farmers.



The idea of ​​nationalizing property belonging to members of other racial groups has been implemented repeatedly in the modern history of the African continent. Thus, the Ugandan dictator Idi Amin Dada under the same slogans of "Africanization of the economy" plundered the property of the numerous Indian diaspora, which played an important role in the economic life of Uganda. In Libya, Muammar Gaddafi nationalized the property of Europeans. Therefore, Robert Mugabe was not a pioneer in the redistribution of property of European or Asian entrepreneurs in favor of the African population. Since Mugabe was embarrassed to act with the hands of the army and the police, the paramilitary units of the Association of Veterans, who were commanded by yesterday’s doctor Chendzherai Hunzvi, nicknamed “Hitler”, were to play a leading role in the nationalization of the land.

At the beginning of 2000, the city of Changzherai Hunzvi demanded that the redistribution of land be accelerated in favor of the veterans of the national liberation struggle. Otherwise, "Hitler" threatened a carnage, which he reported directly to Queen Elizabeth II as the head of the British Commonwealth. By the way, the farmers themselves - most of them Englishmen - initially counted on intercession from the UK and other European countries. Indeed, the British government, Tony Blair, severely criticized Robert Mugabe’s policy and organized the expulsion of Zimbabwe from the British Commonwealth for a period of one year. In addition, the European Union imposed sanctions against Robert Mugabe and several other high-ranking officials of the Zimbabwean government, arresting their bank deposits and banning entry to Europe. But these measures did not lead to a change in the policy of "Africanization of land." In Zimbabwe, mass attacks against white farmers began in order to seize their property. Moreover, the bulk of the militants of the Association of Veterans, of course, were not veterans, whose age should have been at this time at least 35 years old, but teenagers and young men born after independence. Despite their young age, they seemed to be veterans and shamelessly robbed the white inhabitants of Zimbabwe. Not only “community activists” participated in the robbery of farmers, but also military personnel and police officers. Many murders have been documented, and the victims were not only white farmers, but also blacks - employees of farms, with whom their tribesmen massacred without any regret. During the land nationalization campaign, 4500 farms were seized from white farmers. Approximately 30.000 residents of Zimbabwe of European descent, fearing for their lives and the safety of the last property, were forced to leave the country.



But the nationalization of agricultural land did not bring the desired well-being to the African people of Zimbabwe. As a result of the actions of the militants "Hitler", the Zimbabwean agrarian industry was virtually destroyed. The production and export of agricultural products fell sharply, as the new owners were unable to organize and manage agricultural production. A further decline in the standard of living of the population followed, but this caused only a backlash in the form of further growth of nationalist sentiment and continued attacks on the remaining white population of Zimbabwe. White Rhodesians began to return to the UK en masse, some moved to neighboring Mozambique and the Republic of South Africa. By the way, the authorities of Mozambique, knowing full well that the arrival of white farmers could improve the country's agriculture, began to allocate to them (it is forbidden to sell land here) significant agricultural land area.

Participation in the campaign to nationalize the land finally turned Chengerai Hunzvi, nicknamed "Hitler" and his militants from the Association of Veterans into the main public support of Robert Mugabe. In fact, Hunzwi became the second most influential person in the country, although he did not hold any government posts. But on July 4, 2001, at the age of 51, Chengerai Hunzvi died suddenly. Officially reported that he died from malaria, unofficial sources put forward as one of the most likely versions of the death from AIDS, very common in southern Africa. But it is also possible that the dangerous leader of the Zimbabwean “storm troopers” simply got rid of those who did not want to further increase its political influence.

However, despite the fact that for Zimbabwe, getting rid of white farmers was a powerful blow that led to a serious crisis in the agricultural sector, the example of "Africanization of land" was infectious. So, in June 2016 in the Republic of South Africa a law was passed, according to which white farmers should sell land to indigenous people at a fixed price, without the possibility of giving up a deal or bargaining. So the South African authorities decided to accelerate the transfer of land from white farmers to black peasants. As in Zimbabwe, a mass movement began in South Africa in the 1990s to return land to African peasants. It was also accompanied by violence. Only for the period from 1997 to 2007. 1248 white farmers and workers of African descent working on their farms were killed. Sharply increased white re-emigration from South Africa. Currently, South African people of European descent leave for Europe, Australia or New Zealand.
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  1. Teberii
    Teberii 23 June 2016 05: 49
    +28
    Themselves never plowed here is the result. Take away and share.
    1. Dam
      Dam 23 June 2016 06: 12
      .
      Read the story. I’m not saying that blacks are right in their actions, but they have been kept in a position worse than slavery for 300 years. It's probably hard to forget. Here from the series: "he who sows the wind will reap the storm"
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 23 June 2016 06: 23
        +37
        Quote: Damm
        I am not saying that the Negroes are right in their actions, but they have been kept worse than slavery for 300 years.

        South Africa under apartheid was one of the most prosperous countries. Although thanks to the TV of the USSR, many people think that there was total hell.
        Everything, no more apartheid-freedom fellow One problem, along with freedom, came the little northern animal scribe laughing
        Lived like people, got a good salary, no revolution needed. Get the whites.
        1. White Guard
          White Guard 23 June 2016 12: 03
          -3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          South Africa under apartheid was one of the most prosperous countries.

          And the USSR had a "second economy of the world", but what's the point?
          Or do you think that blacks in South Africa, the main population, also flourished?
        2. Dam
          Dam 23 June 2016 12: 48
          +1
          Yes, it was a very good country for whites. (I almost went there at 90). But only for blacks it was a bit worse. If anyone is interested, there were articles on Va how White had fun there. What is now is not better, but the truth is the truth, it is unlikely that Africa will ever fall in love with white brothers. Hand on heart, we don’t love them too much
        3. region58
          region58 23 June 2016 13: 00
          +6
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Everything, no more apartheid-freedom fellow One problem, along with freedom, came a little northern animal scribe

          On this topic, you can read: http: //tannen.livejournal.com/66587.html It is written with humor, but the essence is gloomy. A slice from there:
          In 1992, this was the year of the abolition of apartheid, respectively, the year of the abolition of the rules of segregation, removed restrictions on movements within the country. In that year, simultaneously, from the savannah, more than two million blacks migrated to the city.
          In the midst of a working day, suddenly, out of nowhere, Achtung came.
          The doors of the office center opened wide, and, a little organized and spontaneous, but fun and positive, several thousand blacks leaked into their office building. The guests arrived with their belongings and belongings. They asked not to pay attention to them, and to continue work, but meanwhile they themselves began to develop areas that were inefficiently used from their point of view. They evenly dispersed through the offices, taking up empty chairs, sofas and chairs, occupied the toilets and corridors, simultaneously removing from the surrounding souvenirs everything that was brilliant on them.
          The building was filled with life and joyful bustle. In the corridors they slaughtered and gutted a bird, in the meeting rooms they prepared food, and they took baths in the toilets.
          To a polite question: "How to understand this?" , they simply replied that they would now live here.
          To the clarifying question: “Am I **? How so? ” , they replied that it would be better for everyone.
          1. White Guard
            White Guard 23 June 2016 14: 02
            .
            Quote: region58
            more than two million blacks migrated from the savannah to the city.

            Ai-ay, the blacks are ungrateful, calmly basked in the ungrateful in the savannah, for some reason they wanted to.
            You yourself tried to live there? You try, you might like it!
            Quote: region58
            in the toilets they took baths.

            Well done, what to say! There were no bathtubs in the savannah, they were dirty, but then they saw water and immediately began to wash themselves!
            Quote: region58
            fun and positive

            Quote: region58
            asked not to pay attention to them

            Quote: region58
            they replied that it would be better for everyone.

            Good blacks.
            1. region58
              region58 23 June 2016 15: 22
              +6
              Quote: White Guard
              Ai-ay, the blacks are ungrateful, calmly basked in the ungrateful in the savannah, for some reason they wanted to.

              That is, if, say, a gypsy camp stands right at your house, will you meet them with bread and salt? I assure you that in an hour another opinion will radically change. There is a reference to the article, would be revered ...
              PS Recently there was an article, there was an interview with the captain of the ferry, which was carrying the "refugees" to Europe, and so, all the cabins (with Persian carpets on the floor) were shredded for him, because they were not used to toilet bowls. It's okay, what ... Better to pile a pile in a corner ... I won't talk about someone else's monastery and my charter, it's intolerant ...
              1. White Guard
                White Guard 23 June 2016 15: 58
                -6
                Quote: region58
                That is, if, say, a gypsy camp stands right at your house, will you meet them with bread and salt?

                One maaalenky, but very important detail.
                Gypsies have all the opportunities for socialization and integration into a cultural society; they simply do not want to use these opportunities as a consequence of the peculiarities of their culture.
                Negroes do not have such opportunities in Africa, although in America the number of people with higher education and normal work as a percentage of the total black population is several orders of magnitude higher than among the gypsy population in Europe.
                Quote: region58
                all cabins (with Persian carpets on the floor) were overtaken by him, because they were not used to the toilets.

                Well, perhaps theoretically, if they had never seen toilets in their lives.
                Well, it was necessary to explain, to show if you need to scare.
                It was necessary to think with my head who you were carrying, also to me, captain.
                1. region58
                  region58 23 June 2016 22: 39
                  +1
                  Quote: White Guard
                  Negroes do not have such opportunities in Africa, although in America the number of people with higher education and normal work as a percentage of the total black population is several orders of magnitude higher than among the gypsy population in Europe.

                  I’ll also tell you about a small detail: although for us they are all on one face, in the same Africa there are up to 7000 peoples and ethnic groups. They are different. And lead a different lifestyle.
                  Quote: White Guard
                  It was necessary to think with my head who you were carrying, also to me, captain.

                  I doubt that the captain of the scheduled ferry has the opportunity to choose passengers. Anyway, the locomotive driver will go onto the platform and will say who goes and who remains ...
                  1. White Guard
                    White Guard 23 June 2016 22: 55
                    -1
                    Quote: region58
                    They are different. And lead a different lifestyle.

                    And I'm not going to argue with that!
                    But for some reason, everyone here points out that blacks without exception are "stupid and lazy."
                    Quote: region58
                    I doubt that the captain of the scheduled ferry has the opportunity to choose passengers.

                    However, he was entrusted with the ship and passengers. The ship was given to him, well, at least he didn’t sink people. Captain, damn it, clown!
                    Quote: region58
                    Anyway, the locomotive driver will go onto the platform and will say who is going and who is left ...

                    What for? There are cabin crew responsible ahead of the commander.
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 23 June 2016 23: 15
                      +7
                      Quote: White Guard
                      But for some reason, everyone here points out that blacks without exception are "stupid and lazy."

                      And so it is. I don’t know any famous black scientist.
                      Quote: White Guard
                      What for? There are cabin crew responsible ahead of the commander.

                      They should be asking if the black man will flush on the carpet? And if you do, then overboard a bastard? belay
                      1. White Guard
                        White Guard 24 June 2016 00: 12
                        0
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        I don’t know any famous black scientist.

                        And who are you yourself ?!
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        They should be asking if the black man will flush on the carpet?

                        Yes. If these white, carrying blacks from the desert there is at least a drop of brains.
                      2. Pissarro
                        Pissarro 24 June 2016 00: 15
                        +2
                        introduced you as a stewart
                        Come up to the passenger, African
                        -Hello, will you be splashing on the carpet?

                        I would have thrown you overboard in the place of a Negro and blamed you for insulting on a national basis laughing
                    2. zennon
                      zennon 23 June 2016 23: 43
                      0
                      Quote: White Guard
                      But for some reason, everyone here points out that blacks without exception are "stupid and lazy."

                      Check out:
                      http://www.bugaga.ru/interesting/1146721903-100-faktov-o-negrah.html
                      1. White Guard
                        White Guard 24 June 2016 00: 14
                        -3
                        Quote: zennon
                        Check out:

                        Yes. For schoolchildren from disadvantaged families will pull, to produce "skins" in prisons.
              2. Dam
                Dam 24 June 2016 00: 00
                -3
                There is one problem, this is the house of blacks, and white went there without asking
            2. Pissarro
              Pissarro 23 June 2016 19: 09
              +3
              Ai-ay, the blacks are ungrateful, calmly basked in the ungrateful in the savannah, for some reason they wanted to.
              You yourself tried to live there? You try, you might like it!


              It’s not a question, build your city and live, and do not seize someone else’s laughing
              1. White Guard
                White Guard 23 June 2016 22: 57
                0
                Quote: Pissarro
                It’s not a question, build your city and live, and do not seize someone else’s

                Whose city did they capture?
                In South Africa? So are they South African citizens or not?
                Or is it not their land?
                And what, for 50 years, it was impossible for them to explain what an elevator and a toilet bowl are? Are the local whites so stupid?
                1. Pissarro
                  Pissarro 23 June 2016 23: 17
                  +3
                  They captured the city of whites, built by whites and for whites. This is not their land, their land in the savannah, their villages are there. The whites allowed them to earn money in the daytime and they left there in the evenings happy. From all over Africa for this money people resorted.

                  Are you explaining to your employees or colleagues what an elevator and a toilet are? White had nothing to do but to educate strangers? And yes, they were not South African citizens
                  1. White Guard
                    White Guard 24 June 2016 00: 19
                    -3
                    Quote: Pissarro
                    They captured the city of whites, built by whites and for whites.

                    Initially, they did not have the right to build a city only for whites, but the "retro-Bolsheviks" do not understand this, you have not yet grown to human values, you are still "at the forefront" of the marginalized youth of the 19th century in terms of development.
                    Quote: Pissarro
                    And yes, they were not South African citizens

                    Yeah. Like Jews, citizens of the Third Reich.
                    1. Pissarro
                      Pissarro 24 June 2016 00: 30
                      0
                      why can not build cities on free land? For your people? What rights are violated? You are talking nonsense
                      1. White Guard
                        White Guard 24 June 2016 00: 39
                        -3
                        Quote: Pissarro
                        why can not build cities on free land? For your people?

                        Really! What wrong did Hitler do, he just built cities "on his own land" only for the Germans.
                        Well, the fact that Jews lived there for centuries, well, who cares, except for the Jews? You probably argue like that?
                      2. Pissarro
                        Pissarro 24 June 2016 00: 54
                        +2
                        sudden Hitler is such a hackneyed controversy that you would not disgrace with him. Like the Jewish question, to and from the place. Stupid.

                        The Boers founded cities on free land, no one lived there. No tribes drove anywhere. Until now, South Africa is not a very populated country, compared to any Nigeria. And if immigrants set the city on empty land, then the laws in this city are created by yourself. Isn't it difficult?
                      3. Ehanatone
                        Ehanatone 5 September 2019 01: 10
                        0
                        "I just built cities" on my own land "only for the Germans."
                        smack nonsense, off topic, and it really hurts! ...
                        I am not a big fan of the white man burden theory, but:
                        It was the experiment that broke out, at the insistence, of course, but what else could it be about "all progressive mankind" in the previously flourishing South Africa and Rhodesia, which showed a completely useless model of governance from the middle-class - the complete decline of previously prosperous countries ..!
                    2. Anglorussian
                      Anglorussian 24 June 2016 00: 31
                      0
                      you have not grown to human values
                      Somewhere I heard it before .. belay
                      1. Pissarro
                        Pissarro 24 June 2016 00: 35
                        +2
                        a man in the Netherlands joined liberal-tolerant values. He is trying to conduct political information here, according to new manuals. laughing
                      2. Anglorussian
                        Anglorussian 24 June 2016 00: 52
                        +2
                        He is trying to conduct political information here, according to new manuals.
                        He fulfills debts to hucksters ... laughing
        4. asadov
          asadov 23 June 2016 16: 07
          +4
          I agree completely. To begin with, it was necessary to raise black farmers and other specialists in the national economy. And only then to carry out the debelization of the economy. And so this will lead to the fact that yellow comes for the place of white colonization. And it will be a terrible white.
          1. Mikhail Matyugin
            Mikhail Matyugin 25 June 2016 09: 42
            0
            Quote: asadov
            And only then to carry out the debelization of the economy. And so this will lead to the fact that yellow will come for the place of white colonization. And it will be a terrible white.

            Well, the big question is - was it worth it to destroy the colonial system?

            And regarding the influence of Asia - yes, at present, in fact, Chinese influence can be called yellow neocolonialism - they hold in their hands many former British possessions with a wide strip from Kenya to Mozambique, win the majority of contracts, invest heavily and buy directly into property.
        5. kumaxa
          kumaxa 26 June 2016 06: 26
          0
          and that is true. tear up the South African Republic as the USSR for certain destinies. After all, there will be diamonds de Beers the hotel.
      2. Scandinavian
        Scandinavian 23 June 2016 09: 15
        +3
        For a long time there was no famine ... Africans can work only under the supervision of Europeans. Technologies and scientific achievements will not be introduced, which will lead to crop failures.
        1. White Guard
          White Guard 23 June 2016 12: 12
          .
          Quote: Scandinavian
          For a long time there was no famine ... Africans can work only under the supervision of Europeans. Technologies and scientific achievements will not be introduced, which will lead to crop failures.

          Well, a direct retelling of Goebbels's words about the Slavs and Aryans!
      3. Orionvit
        Orionvit 23 June 2016 10: 51
        +4
        Well no. Negroes are simply not able to comprehend anything other than monotonous labor or hunting, all the more, because of their abilities, they cannot master the functions of management. I'm not saying that they are very stupid, but the facts are on the face. Destroy the country with your own hands, not understanding what this will lead to, and what should you call them after that? Ukrainians? Although there are probably peoples who are contraindicated in independence. Practice in Africa shows that when whites leave the country, that's all, you can put up a cross. There is a very good and illustrative film of the 60s on this topic "Goodbye Africa". You can accuse me of racism, but why then in South Africa and in the states there are so-called "black universities", where only black students study in a simplified program, because they do not pull the usual program.
        1. White Guard
          White Guard 23 June 2016 12: 16
          -8
          Quote: Orionvit
          moreover, because of their abilities, they cannot overpower management functions.

          Here in the USA they can, for many, many years, occupying senior positions including in state administration, but in Africa one might think no!
          Quote: Orionvit
          I'm not saying that they are very stupid, but the facts are on the face.

          Yes, dumb, dumb!
          Finns are very smart, I guess? How many Finns have Nobel laureates and how many Russia? But they still live better in Finland!
          Quote: Orionvit
          when whites leave the country, that's all, you can put an end to it.

          White initially built a system that blacks were struck by their rights to education and business.
          Therefore, it is really not surprising that the black people of Africa have to build their states almost from scratch after they leave.
        2. alexmach
          alexmach 23 June 2016 15: 56
          0
          Damn, and whose hands ruined the USSR? We are all out too, "negros"?
      4. Buffet
        Buffet 23 June 2016 11: 38
        0
        And here is the result. They don’t even want to work what they got for nothing. They what? Banana plucked and full. Until the whites came and forced them to work, they lived like cavemen.
        1. White Guard
          White Guard 23 June 2016 12: 17
          0
          Quote: SHVEDsky_stol
          They don’t even want to work what they got for nothing.

          You will not believe it, but when there is work, they work, including with 10, and sometimes even less years.
        2. Professor
          Professor 23 June 2016 12: 41
          +12
          Quote: SHVEDsky_stol
          And here is the result. They don’t even want to work what they got for nothing. They what? Banana plucked and full. Until the whites came and forced them to work, they lived like cavemen.

          It's not about skin color. How do you not understand. The point is culture. For example, Israel left the Arabs in Gaza developed agriculture. The first thing the Arabs did when Israel left Gaza was to destroy the greenhouses. (Actually, the second. The first thing they fired on Israel.) And now what? Now Gaza, which previously supplies vegetables to Israel, is itself forced to purchase them in Israel.
      5. valerei
        valerei 23 June 2016 12: 00
        +16
        Almost like in the former Central Asian republics of the USSR. First, the "golden" heads (Germans, Russians) left, then the "golden" hands (Russians, Ukrainians) left, only golden teeth remained. The result is obvious. So, nothing new.
      6. marlin1203
        marlin1203 23 June 2016 14: 34
        +3
        Behind slavery, ahead of poverty ... wow choice so-so ... belay
      7. zennon
        zennon 23 June 2016 14: 53
        +4
        Quote: Damm
        they have been kept worse than slavery for 300 years.

        What do you know?! Negroes never lived in southern Africa! They didn’t have climate there, and macaques didn’t do farming. White came there almost 400 years ago! First, the Dutch, then other Euro diasporas. They yes, they plowed the land and lived there for centuries .And then the blacks crawled in there. Living next to the whites is much more satisfying than waving spears in the shroud.
        Quote: Damm
        Read the story

        That's it!
        1. White Guard
          White Guard 23 June 2016 15: 20
          -4
          Quote: zennon
          Blacks have never lived in southern Africa!

          I hope this is a joke?
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 23 June 2016 17: 08
            +2
            Quote: White Guard
            I hope this is a joke?

            No. In South Africa, the climate is like in southern Europe. Negro is cold there. No kidding, they always lived north
            1. White Guard
              White Guard 23 June 2016 18: 00
              -2
              Quote: Ruslan67
              No kidding, they always lived north

              Who! Bantu? Well, these yes, only in the 14th century they probably came there (300 years before the Europeans). But the Bushmen who have been living there for more than 10000 years definitely do not understand what you mean.
              1. zennon
                zennon 23 June 2016 20: 28
                +3
                Quote: White Guard
                But the Bushmen who have been living there for more than 10000 years definitely do not understand what you mean.

                In European t-shirts, hats and capes? Yes, you are crazy!
                Robes make up loincloths and cloaks from animal skins. Girls decorate themselves with ostrich egg shell necklaces, grass bracelets, colored seeds and plant seeds

                This is from the "Wiki". There you can find out that there are only about 100 Bushmen. Of this number, only 000 live in South Africa, and Botswana 7500, and Namibia 45. Negroes have never lived in South Africa! They came for the whites, feeds on their garbage. By the way, this fact is not denied even by niger lovers.
                1. White Guard
                  White Guard 23 June 2016 23: 03
                  -1
                  Quote: zennon
                  In European t-shirts, hats and capes? Yes, you are crazy!
                  Robes make up loincloths and cloaks from animal skins. Girls decorate themselves with ostrich egg shell necklaces, grass bracelets, colored seeds and plant seeds

                  Well, yes, of course, but in our country in Russia all the girls probably go in kokoshniks and in sundresses.
                  Quote: zennon
                  . You can also find out that there are only about 100 Bushmen. Of this number, only 000 live in South Africa, Botswana 7500, and Namibia 45.

                  And what? Nevertheless, they are the autochthonous population of South Africa, living there for at least 10000 years.
                  Quote: zennon
                  Never before have blacks lived in South Africa! They came for whites, feeds on their garbage

                  What are you talking about? I wrote that the Bushmen have lived there for at least 10000 years, the Bantu came 300 years before the Europeans, or even earlier.
                  What may not be clear here?
                  1. zennon
                    zennon 23 June 2016 23: 37
                    0
                    Quote: White Guard
                    Well, yes, of course, but in our country in Russia all the girls probably go in kokoshniks and in sundresses.

                    What does ethno costumes have to do with it? I meant warm clothes! Negroes can’t do anything. In untreated skin that you don’t have to wrap even in cold climates!
                    Quote: White Guard
                    I wrote that the Bushmen have lived there for at least 10000 years, the Bantu came 300 years before the Europeans, or even earlier.
                    What may not be clear here?

                    I WOULD WRITE. Why are you sitting there and counting how much they lived there? Imagine a link, and your personal opinion does not mean anything.
                    1. White Guard
                      White Guard 24 June 2016 00: 22
                      -1
                      Quote: zennon
                      Imagine the link, but your personal opinion does not mean anything.

                      Did you see new information for yourself? Do not believe? Why googling while writing my comment why not guess ?!
              2. andj61
                andj61 23 June 2016 21: 29
                0
                Quote: White Guard
                Quote: Ruslan67
                No kidding, they always lived north

                Who! Bantu? Well, these yes, only in the 14th century they probably came there (300 years before the Europeans). But the Bushmen who have been living there for more than 10000 years definitely do not understand what you mean.

                In fact, more than 70% of the Bushmen and Hottentots actually lived north of the Orange River.
                1. White Guard
                  White Guard 23 June 2016 23: 05
                  0
                  Quote: andj61
                  In fact, more than 70% of the Bushmen and Hottentots actually lived north of the Orange River.

                  Yes, at least 90%. The remaining 10 then where did they live? And white 10000 years ago where did they live? Much further than orange, right ?!
      8. trantor
        trantor 23 June 2016 18: 50
        +1
        Quote: Damm
        I am not saying that the Negroes are right in their actions, but they have been kept worse than slavery for 300 years.

        There was prosperous Rhodesia, Zimbabwe became a household name. The thing is that the white minority not only knew how to create, but also kept from tribal massacre (read the genocide), which they received as a result. And so on throughout Africa. That’s never a racist, but different thoughts spin ...
        1. White Guard
          White Guard 23 June 2016 23: 06
          -1
          Quote: trantor
          but it also kept me from tribal massacre (read the genocide), which they received as a result.

          Yeah. First, cutting borders that had nothing to do with the original resettlement of various peoples.
      9. kumaxa
        kumaxa 26 June 2016 06: 24
        0
        rightly noticed as the blacks themselves said. when the whites came, they had a bible and we have land. now whites have land and we have a bible.
    2. Lyton
      Lyton 23 June 2016 06: 32
      +7
      The funny nickname "Hitler" in the photo is generally ridiculous, they hung themselves with medals, but in fact, they were the Papuans and remained so, watched on TV how they took the land away from the Whites, but on this land the blacks did not grow anything, and why, it’s not the master’s business in the land poking around, unable to organize anything themselves.
      1. inkass_98
        inkass_98 23 June 2016 07: 28
        +29
        Without any racial prejudice, only on the basis of ethnographic observations, science is making a quite definite and reliable conclusion: as there is the "American dream", so there is the "big black dream". And this dream consists of the following components: a big house, a nice car, a white (ideally) wife and a sinecure. Sinecure is the main thing. I did not draw this conclusion myself, but I was repeatedly convinced of its validity. And look at contemporary Central and South Africa: isn't it? In principle, 85-90 percent does not want to work, while those who want to do something have practically no opportunity to apply themselves. In the countries following the socialist path, there was some goal to socialize (that is, pull them out of primitive tribal relations, instill the culture of a more developed society) tribes, now no one needs it.
        Learning is laziness, and often nowhere. Yes, and why? Begging and begging are elevated to the rank of respected professions.
        To make Africa, if not prosperous, then self-sufficient, it is necessary to completely change the regimes of black racists, force them to study and work for three or four generations, drive them into cities, otherwise blood will pour, and they will blame all the troubles on whites, then yellow, then already black farmers, workers, scientists who work poorly and do not allow ninety percent of loafers to live for their pleasure.
        1. Beefeater
          Beefeater 23 June 2016 07: 46
          +5
          Quote: inkass_98

          To make Africa, if not prosperous, then self-sufficient, it is necessary to completely change the regimes of black racists, force them to study and work for three or four generations, drive them into cities, otherwise blood will pour, and they will blame all the troubles on whites, then yellow, then already black farmers, workers, scientists who work poorly and do not allow ninety percent of loafers to live for their pleasure.

          But no one is interested in this. There is a need only for mining workers.
          The second one. They do not need to prepare for winter. Bananas are growing everywhere. I suspect even that 4 crops per year.
          1. White Guard
            White Guard 23 June 2016 12: 22
            -6
            Quote: Beefeater
            Bananas are growing everywhere.

            Are growing. On the plantations. Private. In some places. Like us, mushroom berries.
            And in cities and where there are no bananas, what are the blacks if there is no work?
            1. Beefeater
              Beefeater 23 June 2016 12: 41
              +2
              Quote: White Guard
              Quote: Beefeater
              Bananas are growing everywhere.

              Are growing. On the plantations. Private. In some places. Like us, mushroom berries.
              And in cities and where there are no bananas, what are the blacks if there is no work?

              Migrate to banana oasis dates, so what else to do?
              1. White Guard
                White Guard 23 June 2016 14: 06
                0
                Quote: Beefeater
                Migrating to Finico Banana Oases

                So they migrate to the former metropolis.
                It’s only there, and without them, unemployment, a bid-pichalka.
        2. Pereira
          Pereira 23 June 2016 09: 00
          +1
          What's the point of messing around? A lot of effort, but what is the output? What do we get from this?
        3. Berber
          Berber 23 June 2016 09: 15
          -3
          All this is true. Black does not want to work. But if you look from the other side, aren't these the fruits of colonization?
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 23 June 2016 10: 03
            +5
            Not. You might think the colonialists taught them to mess around. The Philippines and Indonesia were also colonies. Are there loafers living there?
            1. White Guard
              White Guard 23 June 2016 12: 23
              -4
              Quote: Pereira
              The Philippines and Indonesia were also colonies. Are there loafers living there?

              These regions have exploited in different ways.
              And in Indonesia in some regions they live no better than in some African ones.
          2. andj61
            andj61 23 June 2016 10: 39
            +3
            Quote: BerBer
            All this is true. Black does not want to work. But if you look from the other side, aren't these the fruits of colonization?

            It is unlikely that this is exclusively the fruits of colonization. In no African country do Negroes want to work. And under colonialism, they worked exclusively under the supervision and coercion of the same colonialists. Even a purely American project - Liberia, where African-American repatriates from the USA built the state according to the US patterns (even the country's flag was taken as the basis for the American one), was eventually blown away precisely by this reason.
            Negroes are spontaneous communists on a primitive level, the main principle is Sharikov’s principle: to take away and divide, and someone else must work to create wealth. bully
            1. White Guard
              White Guard 23 June 2016 12: 30
              -1
              Quote: andj61
              And under colonialism, they worked exclusively under the supervision and coercion of the very same colonialists.

              One might think that one of the whites would agree to work voluntarily in those conditions, and for the money that the colonialists were offering to the blacks ?!
              Quote: andj61
              In no African country do Negroes want to work.

              Quote: andj61
              Even a purely American project - Liberia

              In Liberia, 70% of the population is employed in agriculture, and 8% in industry.
              But at the same time they turn out to be "not working". Well, or racists have their brains turned off at the mention of blacks. (rhetorical question)
              1. andj61
                andj61 23 June 2016 13: 02
                +3
                Quote: White Guard
                In Liberia, 70% of the population is employed in agriculture, and 8% in industry.
                But at the same time they turn out to be "not working". Well, or racists have their brains turned off at the mention of blacks. (rhetorical question)

                "Busy" is so, a statement of fact - sort of like in agriculture. There, the indigenous population is at war among themselves and all together - with repatriates from North America.
                Name at least one successful country in Black Africa - there are simply none! You can call only a small Djibouti - they live due to the geographical location and good ties with the former metropolis - France, and, to some extent, Namibia, but there is an extremely small population with gigantic mineral deposits. All - no more country and you will not name! Asians are completely different. Phillippines. Vietnam, Malaysia, Thailand, even Indonesia started in much worse conditions than all of Africa. But in all of Asia, only Burma (Myanmar) and Afghanistan are in a bad situation, and in Black Africa - all countries. And the climate is similar !.
                And what does racism have to do with it? Or are you, in the absence of arguments, the only way you express your position - to blame your opponent and let him justify himself? I will not make excuses, I also have a friend of African descent, but he is Russian, having a Negro father - that's all.
                1. White Guard
                  White Guard 23 June 2016 14: 13
                  -9
                  Quote: andj61
                  Name at least one successful country in Black Africa - there are simply none!

                  Naturally. Because all the resources of these countries belong to European and American corporations, bribing local officials.
                  And the blacks have nothing to do with it.
                  Quote: andj61
                  But in all of Asia, only Burma (Myanmar) and Afghanistan are in a bad situation, and in Black Africa - all countries. And the climate is similar !.

                  The climate is different.
                  The ordinary population of the same Indonesia, especially remote regions, lives in conditions of not the best African.
                  And their "start" was completely different, do not talk nonsense.
                  Quote: andj61
                  I have a friend of African descent

                  So how is it? Does he "don't want to work" either?
                  1. Pissarro
                    Pissarro 23 June 2016 19: 17
                    +1
                    Because all the resources of these countries belong to European and American corporations, bribing local officials.


                    some of these countries were pro-Soviet type of satellites, from which Western capital was knocked out. The lack of Western capital did not affect the success of these countries, rather the opposite
                    1. White Guard
                      White Guard 23 June 2016 23: 07
                      0
                      Quote: Pissarro
                      The lack of Western capital did not affect the success of these countries, rather the opposite

                      On the contrary, what? Both there and there, income to the economy is almost zero, but in capitalist Africa there is at least some national business, albeit the smallest.
                  2. andj61
                    andj61 23 June 2016 21: 09
                    0
                    Quote: White Guard
                    The climate is different.
                    The ordinary population of the same Indonesia, especially remote regions, lives in conditions of not the best African.
                    And their "start" was completely different, do not talk nonsense.

                    The ordinary population of Indonesia, indeed, often often lives in much the same way as in Africa. But they in their overwhelming mass at the slightest opportunity work. There is - precisely in Indonesia - and a complete resemblance. In West Irian in New Guinea, things are exactly the same as in Africa. Guess why? And who lives there?
                    And about the rest of the countries - and how does the wet jungle of the same Indonesia, the Philippines, Malaysia, Vietnam and Thailand differ radically from the jungles of Zaire and Uganda, and the plateaus and savannahs of India and Pakistan from the same in Kenya, Tanzania and Zimbabwe?
                    All these countries were under colonial oppression. What is the different start? Why did Cambodia, having lost about forty percent of the population from the Pol Pot regime, which, in addition to the population and ALL industry, education and infrastructure, destroy, be restored and very actively, but African countries can’t do this?
                    Or are the Indians shot at the time from guns by the British somewhat different from the Africans?
                    Only one thing: Asians - often no less dark-skinned than Africans (in India, some peoples are practically blacks) - simply work, but Africans do not - that's all! So I return your "nonsense" to you - you are carrying it.
                    By the way, besides the heroism of Herero in South West Africa against the Germans and Ethiopians in the war against Italians, there were no more rebels before the Soviet intervention in Africa. And the conflicts began there after the departure of the colonialists.
                    And my comrade is dark-skinned, but he is Russian, brought up in a Slavic family, is no different from all of us, just like Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Jews, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Uzbeks, Yakuts, Georgians, Azerbaijanis, Armenians, Ossetians, Koreans, (and even one Meskhetian Turk) who grew up under the USSR and with whom I maintain comradely and friendly relations - do not try to troll in vain! stop
                    1. Mikhail Matyugin
                      Mikhail Matyugin 23 June 2016 23: 08
                      +2
                      Quote: andj61
                      Only one thing: Asians - often no less dark-skinned than Africans (in India, some nations are almost blacks) - simply work, but Africans do not - that's all!

                      I will say a simple thing - the peoples belonging to the Negro-Australoid race in South Asia (the same Veddas or Andaman) and the Pacific Ocean basin just as organically hate work as their counterparts in Africa. Only for such words, for example, in Australia, could I be arrested these days.
                    2. White Guard
                      White Guard 23 June 2016 23: 34
                      -2
                      Quote: andj61
                      But they in their overwhelming mass at the slightest opportunity work.

                      And you might think that blacks do not want to work? You show me at least one black man who agrees to die of hunger, but not work.
                      Quote: andj61
                      All these countries were under colonial oppression. What is the different start?

                      Yes, because it’s different. In SEA, there was originally a developed Buddhist civilization, probably in all respects, except for technology, superior to European.
                      And the local population had to be reckoned with.
                      And in Africa, Europeans saw what they themselves were at one time in comparison with the ancient Romans. And then they proved that they have not changed much since then.
                      Therefore, the scale of colonial oppression and its consequences for the development of Asia and Africa were different; if Asia only slowed down, then not much that was eradicated in Africa.
                      As according to Tolstoy about hunger, the rich are getting poorer, the poor are destitute, the beggars are dying.
                      1. andj61
                        andj61 24 June 2016 08: 18
                        0
                        Quote: White Guard
                        And you might think that blacks do not want to work? You show me at least one black man who agrees to die of hunger, but not work.
                        It is with us, in our climate, if you don’t work, you will die of hunger. And there you can always pick and eat something from a tree, the same snake - poisonous! - grim. And if you work - THREE CROPS a year! They don’t want to cultivate the land - it’s so difficult! Only Negroes often sit in refugee camps during internal conflicts, give half, or even more, humanitarian aid plundered by their apex, but don’t work wish! Even in the camp for cleaning people - even for the money! - hard to find. The psychology is simple - you need it - you work.
                        Two years ago, in the Bryansk Agricultural Academy, there was a meeting of graduates - a friend invited me there. We came from different countries. One of them is a solid, sleek black man. We talked - he himself is from Verkhnyaya Volta (Burkina Fasso), but he doesn’t work there - he was busted about three years after graduation - and left for France. He confirmed his diploma and works in a large agricultural company. When asked why agriculture in his country didn’t raise, he answered that it was impossible to work with these lazy blacks (the Negro himself and himself reminded us of that!) He had land and funds for investments - his family is far away not poor, but nothing happened precisely because of the laziness of ordinary workers. He left for France and was satisfied. Say - he himself and work. Yes. This is an exception that confirms the rule - and nothing more!
                        Quote: White Guard
                        Yes, because it’s different. In SEA, there was originally a developed Buddhist civilization, probably in all respects, except for technology, superior to European.
                        And the local population had to be reckoned with.

                        The British, French, Dutch and Spaniards in SEA with the local population was considered the only way - with the help of weapons. Just like in Africa - there’s no difference ... In the Philippines, there wasn’t really any Buddhism — the same animalism, nor any technologies — and this doesn’t stop them from developing! But the Africans, who once - as you yourself write about it - had a high culture - are in the way! The question is why? The only answer is that they don’t want to work!
          3. Pissarro
            Pissarro 23 June 2016 19: 14
            +1
            did they work before colonization? Created something prosperous?
            1. White Guard
              White Guard 23 June 2016 23: 35
              0
              Quote: Pissarro
              Created something prosperous?

              Are you able to name anything "prosperous" for me that was not part of the general?
              Whose alphabet are you using, and whose numbers are you using?
          4. zennon
            zennon 23 June 2016 20: 40
            0
            Quote: BerBer
            All this is true. Black does not want to work. But if you look from the other side, aren't these the fruits of colonization?

            No, this is the lack of brains (the brain of a black man is on average 15% smaller than the brain of white) and laziness. Negroes can only be forced to work from under a stick. At the expense of colonization, Singapore, Taiwan, Malaysia, and South Korea were some 70 years ago wretched villages on the shores of the ocean. You look at them now! We are far from them! Many times attempts have been made to build production in black Africa, everything went to waste. Hundreds of millions of people live in central Africa (I almost wrote people). 3% of world trade falls ... 60 years they are independent. Ugh!
            1. White Guard
              White Guard 23 June 2016 23: 37
              -1
              Quote: zennon
              a black man’s brain is on average 15% smaller than a white brain

              I am glad that there are not only pensioners, but also schoolchildren.
              1. zennon
                zennon 24 June 2016 00: 00
                +2
                Quote: White Guard
                I am glad that there are not only pensioners, but also schoolchildren.

                And not only here! For example, the man who thinks so. This is James Dewey Watson, who discovered the molecular structure of nucleic acids (DNA). Nobel Prize winner for 25 years led the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, where he conducted research on cancer genetics.
                From 1989 to 1992 - the organizer and leader of the Human Genome project for decoding the sequence of human DNA. In 2007, he spoke in favor of the fact that representatives of different races have different intellectual abilities, which is due to genetics. In connection with the violation of political correctness, a public apology was demanded from him, and in October 2007, Watson formally resigned as head of the laboratory where he worked.
                Here are his words: "I look into the future of Africa with great pessimism, since the representatives of the non-troop race are much inferior in intellectual development and inability to learn."
                This man is a genius. He enrolled at the university at the age of 15. His whole life has been studying the human genome and intelligence. The whole world is studying according to his textbooks. Are you going to argue with him ,?
                1. White Guard
                  White Guard 24 June 2016 00: 27
                  -4
                  Quote: zennon
                  This man is a genius.

                  And this man is crazy for old age, you would have read all his statements and you would have understood that, I guess.
                  And yes, his contribution to "decoding the genome" is exaggerated by illiterate racists.
                  1. Anglorussian
                    Anglorussian 24 June 2016 00: 33
                    +2
                    his contribution to "decoding the genome" is exaggerated by illiterate racists.
                    They drove him the Nobel by pulling?
                  2. zennon
                    zennon 24 June 2016 14: 29
                    0
                    Quote: White Guard
                    And this man is crazy for old age

                    UBOGG.i.d.a.po.ch.Offer with idiom and stupid and smoke. Smoke the sky further with swarm macaques, fainted ...
            2. Mikhail Matyugin
              Mikhail Matyugin 24 June 2016 16: 05
              0
              Quote: zennon
              About colonization. Singapore, Taiwan, Malaysia, and South Korea, some other 70 years ago, were wretched villages on the shores of the ocean.

              Well, you got a little excited - Singapore and Taiwan were large ports about 120 years ago. But Korea and Malaysia are generally quite ancient and prosperous states, though not large, but they had everything and everything was fine in general.
        4. Kenneth
          Kenneth 23 June 2016 10: 39
          +2
          In Europe they are gypsies. God forbid any racism, they just historically have such a lifestyle. But there are not many gypsies. And blacks in Africa are almost everything. It would have been much easier for them to stay in feudalism.
          1. Woland
            Woland 23 June 2016 12: 11
            +1
            Yes, let them live as they want. If they survive, it’s good, there’s no Kagrita, Maxim died, well, and x .. with him.
          2. White Guard
            White Guard 23 June 2016 12: 31
            -5
            Quote: Kenneth
            In Europe they are gypsies.

            Well, of course it is immediately obvious that you talked with blacks and gypsies!
            (evil irony, and the hedgehog is clear that you have no idea about the topic under discussion)
            1. Beefeater
              Beefeater 23 June 2016 12: 52
              +5
              Quote: White Guard
              Quote: Kenneth
              In Europe they are gypsies.

              Well, of course it is immediately obvious that you talked with blacks and gypsies!
              (evil irony, and the hedgehog is clear that you have no idea about the topic under discussion)

              One had to imagine with the gypsies. A year ago, such a representative of a proud nation deceived my mother directly imagine at home for 80 years, recently a gypsy undergrowth brazenly tried to test their skills directly on me. The impression is extremely negative.
              Everyone has heard the recent story of the illegal construction of more than a hundred cottages and the connection of the latter to the gas main. Naturally illegal. None of the residents naturally worked and do not work anywhere. And they don’t want to work. The source of prosperity is theft, fraud, drug trafficking.
              1. White Guard
                White Guard 23 June 2016 14: 26
                -3
                Quote: Beefeater
                Everyone has heard the recent story of the illegal construction of more than a hundred cottages and the connection of the latter to the gas main.

                Before my eyes, at one time, the life of the African diaspora was passing by, compactly settling in one of the Moscow microdistricts (there were hundreds of people there)
                But besides the fact that for all the time I watched them I didn’t see ANY drunk or smoking or even more sloppy dressed Negro, I didn’t find any differences from other residents, except for the habit of strongly gesturing and swinging when talking to each other (at the same time talking with the whites, they did not gesticulate, well, or at least tried).
                It was especially funny to watch them at the store, where they bought small groups of pasta juice in small groups and how drunks from neighboring houses constantly thronged nearby in the park and often asking for little things and cigarettes from passers-by crowded around this store.
                I then, I confess, even began to doubt who the Negro was here.
                1. Beefeater
                  Beefeater 23 June 2016 15: 40
                  +1
                  Quote: White Guard
                  Quote: Beefeater
                  Everyone has heard the recent story of the illegal construction of more than a hundred cottages and the connection of the latter to the gas main.

                  Before my eyes, at one time, the life of the African diaspora was passing by, compactly settling in one of the Moscow microdistricts (there were hundreds of people there)

                  It was especially funny to watch them at the store, where they bought small groups of pasta juice in small groups and how drunks from neighboring houses constantly thronged nearby in the park and often asking for little things and cigarettes from passers-by crowded around this store.
                  I then, I confess, even began to doubt who the Negro was here.

                  Something tells me that these blacks are some kind of students, that is, they have passed some sort of selection in their own country, by social or educational qualifications. So it will be correct to compare them with our winners of physics and mathematics contests.
                  Our homeless people must be compared with the Egyptian beggars, then everything will fall into place.
                  1. White Guard
                    White Guard 23 June 2016 16: 15
                    -4
                    Quote: Beefeater
                    So it will be correct to compare them with our winners of physics and mathematics contests.

                    Well then, with those who entered for grandmothers at a university from some domestic republic.
                    Quote: Beefeater
                    having passed some sort of selection in their homeland, by social or educational qualifications.

                    Even if so, which is most likely true but only partially, the main thing is that those who have passed the educational qualification are not inferior in culture to our population.
                    From this logically follows the idea that if blacks provide this education, then even in Africa they become cultural people.
            2. Kenneth
              Kenneth 23 June 2016 13: 43
              +3
              What big-eyed you are. You can see everything. By the way, I talked with both those and others. Yes, I have a gypsy gypsy girl, though apparently she left the camp. But this has nothing to do with the matter. We had blacks at our institute. Very negative impression. They could not concentrate on anything and at lectures like on a palm tree. Although there was such a doctor from Chad, a very worthy gentleman. As for the gypsies in Europe, just literally three weeks ago

              So, of course, not everything is clear.
              1. White Guard
                White Guard 23 June 2016 15: 24
                0
                Quote: Kenneth
                They could not concentrate on anything and at lectures like on a palm tree.

                Well, this could be, but here excuse me, only children of officials loyal to the USSR and close to them went to study in the USSR, that is, children from the very beginning not the smartest representatives of African peoples.
                In addition, initially small-sized students for studying at universities of the USSR due to completely different secondary education in Africa and the USSR.
          3. andj61
            andj61 23 June 2016 13: 05
            +3
            Quote: Kenneth
            In Europe they are gypsies. God forbid any racism, they just historically have such a lifestyle. But there are not many gypsies. And blacks in Africa are almost everything. It would have been much easier for them to stay in feudalism.

            Yes, they did not have feudalism everywhere - Ethiopia and the countries that were in close contact with the Arabs. In the rest - the primitive communal system at the stage of decomposition. And then immediately to capitalism! wink
            1. Kenneth
              Kenneth 23 June 2016 13: 47
              0
              Well, all kinds of civilizations in Africa are closer to feudalism even so. Although you may be right.
          4. Pissarro
            Pissarro 23 June 2016 19: 20
            +1
            Negroes have not grown to feudalism. Feudalism builds a feudal hierarchy and steps over tribal relations. In Africa, all wars are waged exclusively on a tribal basis
        5. White Guard
          White Guard 23 June 2016 12: 20
          -2
          Quote: inkass_98
          Principally does not want to work 85-90 percent

          Well, stop talking nonsense, Africa is steadily exporting food and other resources, and it’s all Negroes who grow and produce it, and by no means 10-15 percent named by you.
          Because at least 50% in the middle African country are actually busy, only they pay almost nothing for it.
          1. Kenneth
            Kenneth 23 June 2016 13: 50
            +1
            Are you writing from emigration? They told you they don’t want to. And you would like to work if, according to your statements, they are not paid.
            1. White Guard
              White Guard 23 June 2016 15: 25
              0
              Quote: Kenneth
              They told you they don’t want to.

              Who said? Is someone famous and reputable? No? But there is no trial.
              1. Kenneth
                Kenneth 23 June 2016 16: 05
                0
                Your opponent. And you said that they are paid little. In short, install a little humor and you feel better
                1. White Guard
                  White Guard 23 June 2016 16: 18
                  -2
                  Quote: Kenneth
                  And you said that they are paid little.

                  It was a response to the theme that "blacks work only under the compulsion of a white man with a stick."
                  Well, for the money that they are paid by whites, and in the conditions that apply to them, really any person will work through their sleeves.
                  1. tracer
                    tracer 24 June 2016 21: 02
                    +1
                    It is immediately clear that you never came across a Negro personally. Neither for work, nor for study, nor in service. Well, never admit it ... Otherwise, they would not have spoken out like that. I come across them at work. Sometimes ... thank goodness. I am an engineer and immediately see that the shoals are clearly "not a white man" and our children do not work. You always have to finish or redo them right up to the entire project. And showing the stupidest mistakes, they are terribly offended, they begin to swing the rights and behave like buboins on a palm tree. Have you ever ridden a Negro taxi? Not only is the whole machine held up with duct tape, and this is at best, so along the way they also multiply in it by the whole family ... Have you ever been, for example, in Louisiana? Have you seen at a gas station with bars on the windows a long-rotted BMW full of unwashed children with a mummy stoned to the root? They are different and they do not want to work. If at least "they know the multiplication table" then they boast of it as an impossible achievement. Which is probably true among compatriots. An example I can give you hundreds from life. The fact that they are the same as we are, only black, I thought before I encountered them in my daily life overseas.
          2. Pissarro
            Pissarro 23 June 2016 19: 27
            +2
            Food and other agricultural products can be exported only by a large agrarian mono-enterprise - latifundia, a collective farm, not the essence of the name and the essence of the form of property. This was the case in Rhodesia and in a bunch of other places.
            During the expulsion of whites, the following happened, the first to experience Haiti during the French Revolution:
            They divided everything into gardens that provide only the one who drips this garden, deprives the state of export revenues, and the economy has money for development. And the country's degradation is inevitable, Haiti was the first, the first in poverty, and it is in the world. To the credit of Robert Mugabe he was able to delay this process for 20 years, until he became a decrepit grandfather, the remaining African countries ran it in a couple of years
            1. White Guard
              White Guard 23 June 2016 23: 39
              0
              Quote: Pissarro
              Food and other agricultural products can be exported only by a large agricultural mono-enterprise - latifundia

              It is good that RI did not know about your opinion, otherwise they exported and exported, but it turned out they couldn’t!
              1. Beefeater
                Beefeater 23 June 2016 23: 55
                +1
                Quote: White Guard
                Quote: Pissarro
                Food and other agricultural products can be exported only by a large agricultural mono-enterprise - latifundia

                It is good that RI did not know about your opinion, otherwise they exported and exported, but it turned out they couldn’t!

                Large kulak farms, landowners, grain traders or wealthy Cossack villages, that is, latifundists of various forms of ownership, exported bread to RI. The peasants alone in the middle zone of Russia could not export anything, they themselves barely made ends meet.
                1. White Guard
                  White Guard 24 June 2016 00: 30
                  0
                  Quote: Beefeater
                  The peasants alone in the middle zone of Russia could not export anything, they themselves barely made ends meet.

                  This sole-man is a fist, the bulk of the peasants lived as a community, that is, latifundia, so how do you understand?
              2. Pissarro
                Pissarro 24 June 2016 00: 02
                0
                for those who are not familiar with history, in the Republic of Ingushetia most of the land belonged to the landowners, the same large landowners. The bulk of the peasants huddled on the remnants for which she also paid grandmothers right up to the first Russian revolution. From the monstrous level of development of this economy itself periodically died of hunger. this is exactly the level to which Zimbabwe has come. And the landowners yes, they drove grain for export, just like the Rhodesian whites and brought currency to themselves and the country. Study the land issue in the Republic of Ingushetia and you won’t be surprised wink
                1. White Guard
                  White Guard 24 June 2016 00: 41
                  -3
                  Quote: Pissarro
                  From the monstrous level of development of this economy itself periodically died of hunger. This is exactly the level to which Zimbabwe has come.

                  We died of hunger only in the USSR, under the Bolsheviks we really were practically no different from Zimbabwe. And you really are not familiar with the history of RI.
                  1. Pissarro
                    Pissarro 24 June 2016 00: 50
                    +1
                    In RI, hunger was periodic, the influence of weather on the primitive cx is key.
                    In the USSR after 1946, that is, under developed socialism, there was no and could not be hunger. Despite the fact that the main population of the USSR, in contrast to RI, lived in cities that do not produce food, that is, the Soviet cx was quite developed, unlike RI
    3. xetai9977
      xetai9977 23 June 2016 10: 50
      +5
      The fact is that the departure of the white population leads to a crisis in the economy, to an increase in crime and a drop in living standards. There is an example of Zimbabwe and South Africa. The most powerful countries under blacks fell into decay.
      1. creak
        creak 23 June 2016 11: 14
        +3
        Quote: xetai9977
        The most powerful countries under blacks fell into decay.

        Similar processes were observed in other parts of the continent - as the Portuguese left Angola and Mozambique, their economy began to fall apart, a bloody struggle for power began, which the USSR was drawn into ...
        Whatever they say, but with the colonialists there was no such mess and massacre (including tribal) ....
        1. White Guard
          White Guard 23 June 2016 12: 35
          -5
          Quote: ranger
          but with the colonizers of such a mess and massacre (including tribal)

          But who drew such borders that the borders of the regions often have nothing in common with the original territory of residence of various national groups?
          Or maybe you think that negroes, struck in all human rights, often living in "bantustans" in any Angola, should have felt themselves citizens of Angola, and not a citizen of their bantustan village ?!
          1. andj61
            andj61 23 June 2016 13: 14
            +4
            Quote: White Guard
            Or maybe you think that negroes, struck in all human rights, often living in "bantustans" in any Angola, should have felt themselves citizens of Angola, and not a citizen of their bantustan village ?!

            Actually, there weren’t any Bantustanov in Angola! It is you who, apparently, have beguiled South Africa! It was there that they tried to create black states on a national basis, and even some of them created earlier than others at the UN are full members - Lesotho and Swsiland.
            Bantustans (African: Bantoestan) - territories used as reservations for the indigenous black population of South Africa and South West Africa (now Namibia) as part of apartheid policies. Ten bantustanov were in South Africa and ten were in the SWA that was under her control.

            And in Angola, the Portuguese lived separately in cities and on farms, and with respect to the Negroes they only brought order so that they did not fight among themselves. The country, of course, was not developed, but only exploited its wealth. But when they left, then a bacchanalia developed in the form of a tribal war, and then geopolitics took hold in the form of assistance to various groups from the USSR, the USA and South Africa. And the economy with the departure of the Portuguese in Angola collapsed - for some reason, even Africans trained in the USSR at existing enterprises could not replace the Portuguese.
            1. White Guard
              White Guard 23 June 2016 14: 33
              -3
              Quote: andj61
              Actually, there weren’t any Bantustanov in Angola!

              It was an allegory, if you did not understand. The main message of the message was that today's borders, both administrative and state, inherited from the whites of the African peoples, do not correspond to the original borders of the residence of various peoples.
              A typical example in Europe is the Irish and the Basques. In Asia, Kurds.
              Therefore, I do not see anything surprising that in the absence of a rigid central authority, they periodically fight among themselves there.
              Quote: andj61
              even trained in the USSR

              Maybe they were just taught in the USSR.
    4. Urfin
      Urfin 23 June 2016 11: 04
      +4
      Everything is really, not so simple.
      Yes, they don’t know anything, culture is not developed, savages ... But this is their land, their people. Under the whites, they will remain so forever - the United States is actually an example. Sooner or later you need to become independent.
      Yes, they will survive crime, evil, death ... but they will finally become normal. This is their choice. It is on the one hand - but on the other, they are really savages - and their culture is primitive - whether they can get out of the pit of savagery - the same question.
      1. White Guard
        White Guard 23 June 2016 12: 39
        -2
        Quote: Urfin
        Yes, they don’t know anything, culture is not developed, savages

        This is not true, historically in Africa there were states and pre-state entities (especially on the east coast).
        One of the richest rulers in the history of mankind (if not the richest) lived in the Sahel in the Middle Ages, sold gold to Arabs.
        But these states were divorced from all trade routes, due to their geographical location.
        As a result, they lagged behind in development from the "world community" which ruined them when they met the Europeans.
        1. andj61
          andj61 23 June 2016 13: 28
          +2
          Quote: White Guard
          This is not true, historically in Africa there were states and pre-state entities (especially on the east coast).

          The only state with a rich history that can at least be attributed to Black Africa is Ethiopia. And even then this is a Christian state, it is a completely different civilization. There were simply no others, and those that periodically appeared on the east coast were created by immigrants from Arab countries.
          Quote: White Guard
          One of the richest rulers in the history of mankind (if not the richest) lived in the Sahel in the Middle Ages, sold gold to Arabs.

          Are you talking about the Nubian kingdom? (noob - in general in ancient Egyptian - this is gold). In our era, it was a Christian state, and it had little to do with Black Africa - a different culture. There, pyramids were built, similar to the Egyptian ones, and there was their own original writing. And they had at their disposal gold mines that allowed them to successfully trade with their neighbors.
          But, I repeat, this is not Black Africa, it is another civilization that has already perished, like ancient Egyptian.
          1. White Guard
            White Guard 23 June 2016 14: 51
            -3
            Quote: andj61
            The only state with a rich history that can at least be attributed to Black Africa is Ethiopia.

            No. Not the only one.
            Quote: andj61
            And even then this is a Christian state

            Ethiopia was born more than a thousand years before the arrival of Christianity. And even that, quickly gave way to Islam.
            Quote: andj61
            Are you talking about the Nubian kingdom?

            No. Here I spoke in particular about Mansa Musa, the ruler of the Empire of Mali and perhaps the richest man in the history of mankind. And if this is not black Africa, then I don’t even know what to do with you.
            I can only advise you to better study world history and not write nonsense.
            1. andj61
              andj61 23 June 2016 16: 57
              +1
              Quote: White Guard
              No. Here I spoke in particular about Mansa Musa, the ruler of the Empire of Mali and perhaps the richest man in the history of mankind.

              Well, first of all, you did not give his name and spoke about ancient times, but he lived already in the 14th century. And there is no reliable data about his condition, but only "urban legends" created on the basis of the records of Arab chroniclers and travelers (who were not in his kingdom, but were there only after his death), and information about his hajj to Mecca, when he wasted money, especially in Cairo. The assessment of his wealth in general occurred only in the 20th century.
              Yes, this is Black Africa, I agree, but this is not the civilization of Black Africa, but an integral part of the Arab Muslim civilization in the era of its heyday and the beginning of sunset. And what did the animalists of Black Africa create?
              Quote: White Guard
              I can only advise you to better study world history and not write nonsense.

              Go to the person? repeat
              It perfectly characterizes you! fellow
              1. White Guard
                White Guard 23 June 2016 18: 33
                -1
                Quote: andj61
                And what did the animalists of Black Africa create?

                Below you can look at one of the terracotta figures of Nok civilization (culture), who knew agriculture and metallurgy.
                The age of the oldest known figures is at least 3000 years according to the method of thermoluminescent dating.
                Quote: andj61
                firstly, you did not name him and spoke about ancient times, and he lived already in the 14th century.

                You are delusional, I originally wrote that "One of the richest rulers in human history (if not the richest) lived in the middle ages exactly in the Sahel "
                Quote: andj61
                but this is not the civilization of Black Africa, but an integral part of the Arab Muslim civilization

                That is, the fact that he was a black man and was the ruler of an independent state that was not part of the Arab caliphate does not bother you?
                Well, he went to Mecca!
                And then what to do with the presidents of Christian European countries who were at the wailing wall ?! In Europe, too, there is no own statehood and culture ?! belay
                Quote: andj61
                It perfectly characterizes you!

                You are characterized by a complete misunderstanding of the issue.
                Naturally, Africa (like the civilizations of America), which is, due to geographical conditions, in almost complete isolation from the entire "progressive world community" that developed along the Great Silk Road, by definition, by the Middle Ages could not reach the level that it had reached by that time European or Arab countries.
                But to deny that in spite of this, Africa did not have its own culture (and knowledge of agriculture, metallurgy, construction, art), either an uneducated person or blind in his racist views.
                1. andj61
                  andj61 23 June 2016 21: 44
                  +3
                  Quote: White Guard
                  Quote: andj61
                  It perfectly characterizes you!
                  You are characterized by a complete misunderstanding of the issue.

                  I tell you that you are rude because of the lack of clear arguments, and you immediately declare that I do not understand the question! And then what do you understand? What about what you keep saying all the time - about elementary culture and ability to lead a discussion? wink

                  And did I deny that Africa had its own culture? I affirm that they do not want to work in black Africa - refute it!
                  And because of the unwillingness to work, because of the desire to be freeloaders, with a minimum of needs, they did not achieve anything and did not take place either as peoples or as states. And for this statement you immediately - due to the lack of arguments (there is nothing to cover!) - hang labels - "talking nonsense", something about a complete lack of understanding of the issue, racism, etc.

                  Further - well, you presented the Neolithic figurine of the Noka culture (north of Nigeria) - what does this mean? There were those in the 1st millennium BC, who they are - nobody knows, left behind certain artifacts in the form of such figures, after 500-700 years they disappeared - and that’s it! Even their appearance is not known.
                  This artifact is much closer to me personally!
                  1. White Guard
                    White Guard 23 June 2016 23: 45
                    -2
                    Quote: andj61
                    I affirm that they do not want to work in black Africa - refute it!

                    See statistics on the employed population in Africa. They almost all work who can. But there is no work, no money, this is an economy and it has no connection with the "intelligence" of individuals.
                    Quote: andj61
                    because of the desire to be freeloaders, with a minimum of needs, they did not achieve anything and did not take place either as nations or as states.

                    You do not carry nonsense, but at least learn the basics of TGP.
                    There is absolutely no connection between the intellectual abilities of the population and antiquity or the success of the state they created, the most striking example of Finland and Russia. There are not many years in Finland, and there are no Nobel laureates, just like science in our understanding, but they live better than us.
        2. QWERTY
          QWERTY 23 June 2016 17: 18
          +4
          Dear, are you a Negro? Why such a concern? Such experiences? Ah, the poor blacks were torn off the paths ... who, sickly, didn’t let them build ships? Is it at 3 crops per year? Why did Greek and Roman civilizations do something there, invent, conquer - and not only in Europe, take the same Macedonian - and the unfortunate oppressed blacks could not do this - under the same climatic conditions?
          1. White Guard
            White Guard 23 June 2016 18: 41
            -2
            Quote: ytsuken
            Why such a concern?

            There is no concern, I just went into my free time to read the news and saw that the racists were writing nonsense again.
            Quote: ytsuken
            Is it at 3 crops per year?

            At least 12! Especially in sugar and sugar.
            And in the jungle, do not grieve the harvests of mothers, until 100 meters passed, 10 poisonous snakes collected and a hundred flies.
            Quote: ytsuken
            Why did Greek and Roman civilizations do something there

            And also Arab and many others, and all borrowed from each other.
            Because all the local civilizations you mentioned were part of the world, and African not.
            The most striking example, North and South Korea, one part of world civilization, and the second not.
            Quote: ytsuken
            under the same climatic conditions?

            In the vast majority of African regions, hellish climatic conditions.
        3. Pissarro
          Pissarro 23 June 2016 19: 33
          -1
          only these states were driven not by blacks, but by Arabs, for whom everything was in order historically

          If the sultan's drums sound in Zanzibar, the inhabitants of the Great Lakes will dance to their rhythm. (C) laughing
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 23 June 2016 11: 49
      0
      South Africa is a member of the BRICS. But without a guide from outside, they cannot do anything.
  2. papont64
    papont64 23 June 2016 05: 58
    +1
    Once it was already. Land to peasants, factories for workers ... (((
    1. Gray-haired
      Gray-haired 23 June 2016 06: 12
      +9
      And what is there in common? Not knowing one’s own story is the basis of slightly stupid comments. lol
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 23 June 2016 06: 20
        -6
        Quote: Gray

        And what is there in common? Not knowing one’s own story is the basis of slightly stupid comments.

        Are you talking about your comments now?
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 23 June 2016 06: 18
      -2
      Quote: papont64
      Once it was already. Land for peasants, factories for workers ..

      And now many Communists who have lost their minds are proposing nationalization. The consequences are of interest to them, they simply say that everyone will be fine. The Sharikov generation.
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 23 June 2016 08: 29
        +6
        Can I ask a simple natural question? Until 91, we had all the property that, suddenly, was seized by individual citizens belonged to the state. On what basis do these people own it? Now all these people do not sit for life (and the authorities do not need them for nothing) for only one reason, it was possible to steal into the 90s.

        Moreover, in Russia capitalism simply does not take root properly, because otherwise the "effective" owner will simply destroy everything that was built before him and the state usually has to correct what they have done. And the level of education in Russia is, as it were, higher than in Africa, and the director, even for a million a year, is no worse in the efficiency of the owner, who personally survives a billion for himself.
      2. R-22
        R-22 23 June 2016 09: 28
        +1
        only nationalization and strict state control of natural resources, as well as active participation of the state in vital for the competitiveness of our Motherland in the world market, industries, science and education will enable Russia to be an independent and strong country in which people will live happily. Work should be respected, BUT EVERY PERSON SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO WORK! But the indigenous population of Africa is not interested in the colonialists, they do not have opportunities for normal development there, they have emasculated it for many years, they are trying to do the same with us, but what will it lead to? - a history textbook to help you and do not rush to immediately remember the Great Socialist October Revolution, remember Stepan Razin and the peasants who supported him, about Pugachev and the people who did not take up the pitchfork from a good life, read Kuprin, about what attitude was in tsarist Russia to people from the lower classes, etc. And then look at the "communists who have gone out of their minds" and at yourself an enlightened one, if nothing in your mind changes, then I am sincerely sorry for you. You are either a bad person or IDIOT. Glory to Labor!
        1. Kenneth
          Kenneth 23 June 2016 10: 44
          +2
          Clarify the glory of labor or its results.
      3. Pissarro
        Pissarro 23 June 2016 19: 39
        +1
        nationalization doesn’t mean dividing one large cx enterprise into gardens. In Soviet times, the process was like the opposite, a large enterprise was molded from a bunch of gardens, able to feed not only itself, but also the city and the army, that is, the state as a whole

        In Rhodesia it is tearing, take and share
        1. Mikhail Matyugin
          Mikhail Matyugin 23 June 2016 20: 00
          +1
          Quote: Pissarro
          In Rhodesia it is tearing, take and share

          Unfortunately, Rhodesia has long been gone. By the way, it was they, and not South Africa, who had the most effective army on the Black Continent.
    3. Beefeater
      Beefeater 23 June 2016 07: 20
      +1
      Quote: papont64
      Once it was already. Land to peasants, factories for workers ... (((

      Well, they all studied with us. From guerrilla art to simple civilian professions. Now they are putting it into practice.
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 23 June 2016 11: 03
        +3
        Once it was already. Land to peasants, factories for workers ... (((
        Only after that, some, poorly poorly but rebuilt a powerful economy, won the greatest war, rebuilt the country again and flew into space. Negroes are not capable of such a thing by definition, because of their innate laziness and dullness.
        1. White Guard
          White Guard 23 June 2016 12: 42
          -3
          Quote: Orionvit
          some who, poorly poor but rebuilt a powerful economy

          Enchanting nonsense. There wasn’t even enough toilet paper, I’ll keep silent about the normal food set.
          Quote: Orionvit
          Negroes are not capable of such a thing by definition

          Even more enchanting nonsense.
          1. Pissarro
            Pissarro 23 June 2016 19: 44
            +1
            an eccentric man, he is about space exploration, he is about toilet paper. A powerful economy is based on high-tech industries such as space, nuclear energy, and not toilet paper production. By building one nuclear power plant in a third world country, you can flood the country with toilet paper for 50 years laughing
            1. White Guard
              White Guard 23 June 2016 23: 49
              0
              Quote: Pissarro
              A powerful economy is based on science-intensive industries such as space, nuclear power, and not toilet paper.

              Providing the entire population with toilet paper is much more difficult than launching a rocket.
              For example, North Korea launches rockets, but by the level of its development it is at the beginning of the 20th century and they do not have toilet paper.
              1. Pissarro
                Pissarro 24 June 2016 00: 06
                0
                North Korea just knows how to set priorities, security is more important than toilet paper, which by the way is problematic from the outside because of sanctions. Yes, they traditionally do not use paper there, they prefer to wash themselves like Arabs, this is for reference smile
                1. White Guard
                  White Guard 24 June 2016 00: 43
                  -2
                  Quote: Pissarro
                  safety is more important than toilet paper

                  But who needs nafig ?! laughing
                  1. Pissarro
                    Pissarro 24 June 2016 00: 46
                    +3
                    That is, for you, toilet paper is more important than security?
                    1. Anglorussian
                      Anglorussian 24 June 2016 00: 55
                      +2
                      That is, for you, toilet paper is more important than security?
                      New times, new priorities. Do not be a retrograde-toilet paper is our everything! laughing fellow laughing
          2. tracer
            tracer 24 June 2016 21: 50
            +1
            Your persistence does you honor as an opponent, but the fact that you do not recognize the examples given in relation to our discussion. Right on know how to say ..
      2. andj61
        andj61 23 June 2016 11: 17
        +1
        Quote: Beefeater
        Well, they all studied with us. From guerrilla art to simple civilian professions. Now they are putting it into practice.

        Actually, the militants of Robert Mugabe in South Rhodesia were not supported and trained by us, but by the Maoists of China in the seventies. Ours supported his ally in the fight against the colonialists Joshua Nkomo. After the declaration of independence of Zimbabwe, R. Mugabe headed for the establishment of a personal dictatorship, J. Nkomo, after a short stay in the government of the country, was forced to emigrate, but they soon agreed - the party of J. Nkomo joined the party of R. Mugabe, recognizing the unconditional leadership of the latter. In 1987, R. Mugabe changed the constitution and appointed himself president. Since then, it has been dictating.
        In 300, inflation in Zimbabwe set records every year and reached 000%; a banknote of 000 trillion Zimbabwean dollars was put into circulation. Somewhere in 100 in Zimbabwe, in fact, they abandoned their currency and allowed the free circulation of foreign currency. Since then, they have an economic growth of 2010-8% per year, but to prosperity - as before cancer in Paris. bully
        But the experience of China close to him R. Mugabe did not help: blacks are still not hardworking Chinese! crying
    4. Yura
      Yura 23 June 2016 08: 01
      +1
      Quote: papont64
      Land to peasants, factories for workers ... (((

      At one time, the Russian people followed this slogan and the reconstruction of almost the entire planet began. While people are dreaming, thieves, bandits and careerists are snatching.
    5. EvilLion
      EvilLion 23 June 2016 08: 21
      +5
      And they gave the land. And they also gave and built factories, which later made tanks and tractors for the same peasants. And people like you for some reason even taught us to knock on the keyboard.
      But the real ass came when the MTS, serviced by skilled city workers, was liquidated during the crunch, and the equipment was handed out to collective farms, where illiterate peasants only swatted it.
      1. White Guard
        White Guard 23 June 2016 12: 47
        -2
        Quote: EvilLion
        And they gave the land.

        Not given, but taken away!
        Under the tsar, peasants could buy and sell land, and grow what they want, and sell themselves and at market prices.
        And with "advice" fig!
        1. Pissarro
          Pissarro 23 June 2016 19: 47
          +1
          that's just the industrial state needs to feed the city, and if the peasants will grow what they want and sell at invented prices, then there will come.
          1. White Guard
            White Guard 23 June 2016 23: 50
            -1
            Quote: Pissarro
            and if the peasants grow what they want and sell at invented prices, then scribe will come.

            The scribe came only to the USSR, where the peasants did not have this right, and not to the capitalist countries.
            1. Pissarro
              Pissarro 24 June 2016 00: 08
              +1
              We are here, as it were, considering Zimbabwe, which, like all of black Africa, has destroyed its cx. Absolute capitalism, no USSR. Bulgaria in the EU also ditched its cx, like a bunch of countries that have nothing to do with socialism
        2. Beefeater
          Beefeater 24 June 2016 00: 00
          0
          Quote: White Guard
          Quote: EvilLion
          And they gave the land.

          Not given, but taken away!
          Under the tsar, peasants could buy and sell land, and grow what they want, and sell themselves and at market prices.
          And with "advice" fig!

          Under the king, the land belonged to the community. The peasant could not sell anything to anyone.
        3. Beefeater
          Beefeater 24 June 2016 00: 00
          0
          Quote: White Guard
          Quote: EvilLion
          And they gave the land.

          Not given, but taken away!
          Under the tsar, peasants could buy and sell land, and grow what they want, and sell themselves and at market prices.
          And with "advice" fig!

          Under the king, the land belonged to the community. The peasant could not sell anything to anyone.
        4. Beefeater
          Beefeater 24 June 2016 00: 00
          +1
          Quote: White Guard
          Quote: EvilLion
          And they gave the land.

          Not given, but taken away!
          Under the tsar, peasants could buy and sell land, and grow what they want, and sell themselves and at market prices.
          And with "advice" fig!

          Under the king, the land belonged to the community. The peasant could not sell anything to anyone.
        5. Beefeater
          Beefeater 24 June 2016 00: 01
          0
          Quote: White Guard
          Quote: EvilLion
          And they gave the land.

          Not given, but taken away!
          Under the tsar, peasants could buy and sell land, and grow what they want, and sell themselves and at market prices.
          And with "advice" fig!

          Under the king, the land belonged to the community. The peasant could not sell anything to anyone.
        6. Beefeater
          Beefeater 24 June 2016 00: 01
          0
          Quote: White Guard
          Quote: EvilLion
          And they gave the land.

          Not given, but taken away!
          Under the tsar, peasants could buy and sell land, and grow what they want, and sell themselves and at market prices.
          And with "advice" fig!

          Under the king, the land belonged to the community. The peasant could not sell anything to anyone.
        7. Beefeater
          Beefeater 24 June 2016 00: 01
          0
          Quote: White Guard
          Quote: EvilLion
          And they gave the land.

          Not given, but taken away!
          Under the tsar, peasants could buy and sell land, and grow what they want, and sell themselves and at market prices.
          And with "advice" fig!

          Under the king, the land belonged to the community. The peasant could not sell anything to anyone.
          1. White Guard
            White Guard 24 June 2016 00: 31
            -1
            Quote: Beefeater
            Under the king, the land belonged to the community. The peasant could not sell anything to anyone.

            Come on! But Stolypin, for example, what was he doing ?! belay
          2. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 28 June 2016 15: 12
            0
            And I am sorry that Nature is suffering. After all, before, with the whites, there were laws about rare species of animals --- now they are systematically violated!
  3. strelets
    strelets 23 June 2016 06: 14
    +6
    Marginals rule the country - this is the result. They don’t know how, they don’t want to work. Simply a gun behind his back, a knife in his teeth - and went to mow the whites. D.E.B.I.L.
    1. Beefeater
      Beefeater 23 June 2016 07: 28
      +9
      Quote: strelets
      Marginals rule the country - this is the result. They don’t know how, they don’t want to work. Simply a gun behind his back, a knife in his teeth - and went to mow the whites. D.E.B.I.L.

      These are not marginalized. You are mistaken. They read more than one book and university diplomas hang on the walls of mahogany-lined offices. These are Marxists, intellectuals of the first generation, such as our Trotsky. It seems that the people are different, and the continent is different, even the 21st century, but the practice of Marxism is unchanged. In the role of kulaks - whites with centuries of experience on earth.
    2. mad
      mad 23 June 2016 07: 55
      +2
      Never mind, soon they'll get to Europe and America, that's where the fun will begin when a black hand grabs the corrupted ass of the "white master".
  4. Revolver
    Revolver 23 June 2016 06: 18
    +10
    Zimbabwe is the country that set the record for inflation, as well as the face value of the currency (printed billions, or even trillions of banknotes). The reason is indicated in the article. South Africa began to oppress the whites more than 10 years later. In 10 years, the economy will collapse in South Africa. Here's a brick from the BRICS.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 23 June 2016 06: 23
      +5
      Quote: Nagan
      In 10 years, the economy will collapse in South Africa

      There is already no nichrome left from the economy.
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 23 June 2016 06: 54
        +5
        In my opinion, in the 70s of the last century, did operations on the heart be performed in South Africa? The base was scientific and material, which means. And transplantation. This is an old magazine I came across somehow.
        I really liked the article. Detailed explanation. Big thanks to the author.
      2. Mikhail Matyugin
        Mikhail Matyugin 23 June 2016 20: 14
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        There is already no nichrome left from the economy.

        Well, from a country that ONE gave THREE GDP of ALL of Africa, there is still something left, for example, the mines work well, diamond exchanges ... laughing
    2. Professor
      Professor 23 June 2016 07: 08
      +4
      Quote: Nagan
      South Africa began to oppress the whites more than 10 years later. In 10 years, the economy will collapse in South Africa.

      I don’t think so soon. All the same, there is not only agriculture, but the outflow of whites seems to be slowed down. Not bad they still live there, albeit behind barbed wire.
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 23 June 2016 08: 33
        +5
        Well, those who wanted to leave should have already left, the rest are sitting in fortresses, and illiterate blacks have to be taken to positions that are unsuitable for them according to the order. As national cadres in the USSR. What is it like now in the former "fraternal" republics without Russians, there is no need to tell. And I hope it will only get worse, the main thing is that they do not go to us.
        1. Orionvit
          Orionvit 23 June 2016 11: 10
          +5
          illiterate blacks have to be hired for positions that are unsuitable for them. As national cadres in the USSR. What is it like now in the former "fraternal" republics without Russians, there is no need to tell. And I hope it will only get worse, the main thing is that they do not go to us.
          I completely agree, the analogy is complete. In the USSR, there were enough of their own blacks in the "fraternal" republics. And it ended the same. If a nation cannot create, then it has no future, and all the words that all people are equal are just cheap chatter.
          1. White Guard
            White Guard 23 June 2016 12: 55
            -2
            Quote: Orionvit
            that all people are equal, just a cheap chatter.

            Of course, people are not equal.
            But firstly, inequality does not give the right to unprincipled and inhuman exploitation of others, everything should be a measure and there must be a conscience.
            Secondly, there are many Negroes among people who are smarter than many whites. And vice versa.
        2. White Guard
          White Guard 23 June 2016 12: 52
          -1
          Quote: EvilLion
          What is it like now in the former "fraternal" republics without Russians, there is no need to tell.

          I will tell you.
          The economy of the "union republics" was originally subsidized at the expense of the RSFSR.
          Therefore, when the USSR collapsed and subsidies ceased, and after that also orders from the Russian Federation, a star came to the republics.
          And the flight of the Russians (and many and many "for some reason" did not run away anywhere) has absolutely nothing to do with it.
          1. Pissarro
            Pissarro 23 June 2016 19: 51
            0
            typical misconception. If all Russian engineers run away from your enterprise, then no loot will make him work. Theoretically, you can get foreign specialists for a lot of grandmas, but first they will need a lot of time to figure out the work, and secondly, this is very will cost your products
            1. White Guard
              White Guard 23 June 2016 23: 51
              -2
              Quote: Pissarro
              If all Russian engineers run away from your enterprise, then no loot will make him work.

              Why would they run away from an enterprise with loot? Are they crazy?
              1. Pissarro
                Pissarro 24 June 2016 00: 09
                +2
                if natives cut you on the street, why do you need loot at the enterprise? laughing
                1. White Guard
                  White Guard 24 June 2016 00: 44
                  -2
                  Quote: Pissarro
                  if natives cut you on the street, why do you need loot at the enterprise?

                  Who cuts whom? What are you talking about?
                  1. Anglorussian
                    Anglorussian 24 June 2016 00: 56
                    0
                    Who cuts whom? What are you talking about?
                    Free black-skinned brothers-damned whites. And about the wave of violence in South Africa, everyone lies?
      2. fider
        fider 23 June 2016 08: 50
        +3
        I advise everyone to see this:
        http://gno-ma.livejournal.com/122143.html
        1. andj61
          andj61 23 June 2016 12: 01
          +4
          Quote: fider
          I advise everyone to see this:
          http://gno-ma.livejournal.com/122143.html

          good The realities of Johannesburg's adventures of our compatriots there are described just fine!
          So, at one point, treacherously, without declaring war, a couple of millions of black colonists entered the city, opening the era of African reconquest. They just took off from their homes, and went to where it tastes better.
          Mikhalych at that time lived in Johann and told the following.
          In the midst of a working day, suddenly, out of nowhere, Achtung came.
          The doors of the office center opened wide, and several thousand blacks leaked into it in a little organized and spontaneous, but fun and positive way. The guests arrived with their belongings and belongings. They asked not to pay attention to them, and to continue work, but meanwhile they themselves began to develop areas that were inefficiently used from their point of view.
          They evenly dispersed through the offices, taking up empty chairs, sofas and chairs, occupied the toilets and corridors, simultaneously removing from the surrounding souvenirs everything that was shiny on them.
          The building was filled with life and joyful bustle. In the corridors they slaughtered and gutted a bird, in the meeting rooms they prepared food, and they took baths in the toilets.
          To the polite question: “How to understand this?”, They simply replied that they would now live here. To the clarifying question: “With h. How so? ”They replied that it would be better for everyone.
          They called the cops. The cops didn’t arrive. The cops said that they couldn’t yet, since they have the same h.renya in the polling stations.
          Then all who could, began to quietly run to the suburbs and towards Cape Town, simultaneously raising the frontiers of defense. Ditches, rows of barbed wire under tension, fences.
          The last district of Johannesburg where the white man meets is the suburb of Pretoria.
          After the mass exodus, the owners of the buildings began to think what to do.
          Come up with. They decided that if the ghouls turned off the light and water with sewage, they themselves would leave the building and return to the savannah.
          Turned off. The ghouls did not even notice.
          It seems that they already had no light, no water, no sewage in the savannah. I asked Mikhalych, and where are they shitting then?
          Mikhalych replied that they themselves had been struggling for a long time on this question and when they found out the answer, they were very frapped.
          It turned out that ghouls, settling in buildings, for a long time could not understand the functionality of elevator shafts. When the invaders pushed open the doors, they wondered for a long time, spitting down why this hole was.
          And then they guessed, and paid tribute to the intelligence of a white man.
          How did White come up with everything sensibly, the Schwonders thought, and began to crap and dump garbage into the elevator shafts.
          According to Mikhalych, a crowd of ghouls, having seized a building, on average litter it on the very roof for an average of ten years. Well, then, as in the good prehistoric times, it migrates to a new pasture, populating a new skyscraper.
          1. Beefeater
            Beefeater 23 June 2016 12: 59
            0
            Cool realities ... gee-gee-gee
      3. White Guard
        White Guard 23 June 2016 12: 49
        -1
        Quote: Professor
        Not bad they still live there, albeit behind barbed wire.

        Come on, they’re there under apartheid, that they lived after the barbed wire.
        It was not only blacks who were not allowed to "walk" to whites, whites to blacks too.
        1. Professor
          Professor 23 June 2016 12: 51
          +4
          Quote: White Guard
          Come on, they’re there under apartheid, that they lived after the barbed wire.
          It was not only blacks who were not allowed to "walk" to whites, whites to blacks too.

          What to quit? White's houses are fenced with barbed wire not so that whites do not "walk" to blacks, but quite the opposite.
          1. White Guard
            White Guard 23 June 2016 14: 58
            -1
            Quote: Professor
            Barbed wire enclosed at home

            In Russia, too, there are barbed wire on many fences, and there are bars on the windows, but there are no blacks.
            But the conversation was originally that apartheid was bilateral.
            That is, it was impossible for whites to approach blacks in the same way as blacks for whites.
            Therefore, do not worry about whites, de facto South Africa as an integral state ceased to exist long before the 90's.
            1. Mikhail Matyugin
              Mikhail Matyugin 23 June 2016 20: 21
              0
              Quote: White Guard
              Therefore, do not worry about whites, de facto South Africa as an integral state ceased to exist long before the 90's.

              This is a fact - although for the time being the Zulus traditionally defeated everyone in tribal wars and for the time being they remain de jure the appearance of state unity.
  5. robbihood
    robbihood 23 June 2016 06: 42
    +2
    IN RUSSIA 10:53, December 20, 2014
    Zimbabwean Minister Visits Crimea
    There is an update from 22:42 → Emergency power outages began in Crimea
    Moscow. December 20. INTERFAX.RU - Zimbabwe is ready to share with the Republic of Crimea the experience of living under Western sanctions and urges residents of the region not to change their decision to reunite with Russia under pressure from other countries, said Zimbabwean Minister of Environment, Water and Climate Seyvor Kasukuvere.

    Kasukuvere’s visit to Simferopol, which takes place on Saturday, was the first official visit to the Crimea by a member of the government of a non-CIS country after the reunification of the region with Russia.

    "We support and respect the choice of the Crimean people, which they made (in a referendum - IF) on March 16, to become a member of a large Russian family. We are ready to share with you the experience we have accumulated during our 14 years of life under sanctions. The sanctions have only made us stronger ", - said Kasukuvere at a meeting with the head of the Republic of Crimea Sergei Aksenov in Simferopol.

    According to the minister, life in the sanctions regime brought Zimbabwe a number of economic problems related to trade and relations with international credit organizations, but at the same time it allowed the state to reveal the hidden reserves of the economy and united the citizens of Zimbabwe.

    “I advise you, residents of Crimea, to stay strong, stay in a friendly Russian family and strengthen the strengths of your economy,” the minister said.

    Kasukuvere also said that his country intends to explore the possibilities of cooperation with the Republic of Crimea in a number of industries, including construction.

    Meanwhile, on Saturday, the United States introduced additional restrictive measures against Crimea.
  6. Professor
    Professor 23 June 2016 07: 04
    +10
    The second half of the 1990's was for Zimbabwe the beginning of the “black strip” in modern history. The economic situation worsened in the country, a fairly active opposition appeared, dissatisfied with the fifteen-year stay in power of Robert Mugabe.

    Because whites have already begun to actively leave the country. My colleague’s family is from there.


    But the nationalization of agricultural land did not bring the desired prosperity to the African population of Zimbabwe.

    No need to cut a cow giving milk.
    1. White Guard
      White Guard 23 June 2016 12: 56
      0
      Quote: Professor
      My colleague's family from there

      Yes, like Israel mined diamonds in South Africa, and mined.
      1. Professor
        Professor 23 June 2016 12: 59
        +3
        Quote: White Guard
        Yes, like Israel mined diamonds in South Africa, and mined.

        As he didn’t mine, he doesn’t. There are private companies operating in Africa, for example, the Levaev Africa-Israel company, but these are private traders.
        1. White Guard
          White Guard 23 June 2016 15: 01
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          but these are private traders.

          But the "private traders" are from Israel, that is, an Israeli company. And that you have capitalism, I already know.
          And yes, I wanted to ask everything, are there any "private traders" from Israel engaged in agriculture in Africa? Growing potatoes there, for example?
          1. Professor
            Professor 23 June 2016 15: 23
            +4
            Quote: White Guard
            And yes, I wanted to ask everything, are there any "private traders" from Israel engaged in agriculture in Africa? Growing potatoes there, for example?

            By the way it is full of such. Yes, I know one who is there with his family (wife and small children) and this is what he is doing. Many companies deal with water in Africa. There are those who are engaged in communications and construction.

            They told the story of how in the 1970s Israeli specialists (kibbutzniks) settled with Soviet specialists in the same hotel in one African country. Imagine the surprise of the Soviet when in the evening the kibbutzniks (native Israelis) sang "Katyusha". fellow
            1. White Guard
              White Guard 23 June 2016 16: 08
              +1
              Quote: Professor
              There are who are engaged in communication

              I read at the tourism forum that in one African city (or mini-country) there are only 2 large companies, and both connections, and their advertising and telephone boxes are always opposite each other.
              I then thought that if they are still worse than ours in the 90s, why have the owners of these companies still not killed each other?
              But it turns out the Israelis! laughing
              1. Professor
                Professor 23 June 2016 19: 42
                0
                Quote: White Guard
                But it turns out it's the Israelis

                No, the owners are not Israelis. I would write articles, I would certainly write an article what a mobile pile did to Africa. This is ID and currency in general.

                Quote: andj61
                And how our fervently "Seven forty" in karaoke after taking on the chest sing!

                I would like to look at these daredevils of the 1970s. They would finish 7:40 in the camps.
                1. andj61
                  andj61 23 June 2016 22: 01
                  0
                  Quote: Professor
                  Quote: andj61
                  And how our fervently "Seven forty" in karaoke after taking on the chest sing!
                  I would like to look at these daredevils of the 1970s. They would finish 7:40 in the camps.

                  No, Oleg, here you are clearly bending! I personally remember that in the 70s, on holidays "Seven Forty" they often sang - Jews in our family were in not so distant neighbors, and in friends. I didn’t sing then - due to my early childhood, I didn’t take it on my chest even with my parents. crying Only for some reason they considered this song folk ... bully And there was nothing for anyone. And the executors - and these were almost all those present of different nationalities - through one were communists. winked
                  And in the 80s this song - not often, though I also sang - it happened! fellow
                2. White Guard
                  White Guard 23 June 2016 23: 53
                  0
                  Quote: Professor
                  This is ID and currency in general.

                  I know. In Zimbabwe, the only way they pay. laughing
            2. andj61
              andj61 23 June 2016 17: 00
              0
              Quote: Professor
              Imagine the surprise of the Soviet when in the evening the kibbutzniks (native Israelis) sang "Katyusha".

              And how our fervently "Seven forty" in karaoke after taking on the chest sing! fellow
  7. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 23 June 2016 07: 06
    +4
    Quote: Damm
    Read the story. I’m not saying that blacks are right in their actions, but they have been kept in a position worse than slavery for 300 years. It's probably hard to forget. Here from the series: "he who sows the wind will reap the storm"

    Yeah, but the fact that these descendants of the monkeys did not go far from their ancestors didn’t count on these 300 years of gathering? Yes, and they are aggressive to the best of their ability, at least take the babamycha ...
    1. White Guard
      White Guard 23 June 2016 12: 57
      +1
      Quote: Shiva83483
      Yes, and aggressive they are not in moderation

      Have you ever seen a black man live? In Russia there is, come and talk, they do not bite.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 June 2016 07: 31
    +2
    On the one hand, you can understand the local Aboriginal people who know firsthand what apartheid is. On the other hand, if you drive out, kill those who raised South Africa, and this is mainly the white population living there for more than one generation, then what will be left over? Literate, educated, business-savvy people have been replaced by revolutionary youth, whose main goal is to select and share.
  9. Pitot
    Pitot 23 June 2016 07: 32
    +5
    Never loved racism and niggaz .... especially the latter
    1. AID.S
      AID.S 23 June 2016 08: 45
      0
      Quote: Pitot
      Never loved racism and niggaz .... especially the latter

      White power?
      1. White Guard
        White Guard 23 June 2016 12: 58
        0
        Quote: AID.S
        White power?

        7B general education.
  10. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 23 June 2016 08: 08
    +4
    Quote: Professor
    The second half of the 1990's was for Zimbabwe the beginning of the “black strip” in modern history. The economic situation worsened in the country, a fairly active opposition appeared, dissatisfied with the fifteen-year stay in power of Robert Mugabe.

    Because whites have already begun to actively leave the country. My colleague’s family is from there.

    Our former southern republics were not familiar with Zimbabwe, but acted similarly. They practically squeezed out the Russians, they say themselves with a mustache ... And what did they get? Zimbabwe...
  11. Humpty
    Humpty 23 June 2016 08: 09
    +4
    Quote: inkass_98
    To make Africa, if not prosperous, then self-sufficient, it is necessary to completely change the regimes of black racists, force them to study and work for three or four generations, drive them into cities, otherwise blood will pour, and they will blame all the troubles on whites, then yellow, then already black farmers, workers, scientists who work poorly and do not allow ninety percent of loafers to live for their pleasure.

    In general, I agree with your comment. But I consider the issue insoluble in modern conditions. What will they do in the cities? Work in factories is not real. In the service sector, um, let’s say for an amateur.
    The experience of the USSR in adapting socially backward peoples is only partially positive. Where to arrange if people run away from factories. We found a "way out" - to the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the police. I am exaggerating a little, but on the whole it was so.
    The result was a bouquet of ethnocracies, a somewhat veiled form of colored racism.
  12. Stauffenberg
    Stauffenberg 23 June 2016 08: 14
    +1
    Unfortunately, the storm is reaped by those who did not sow it. Europe pumped out resources from Africa, pitted locals and now all this is reflected in the skins of white settlers, although they are already essentially local. Insanely sorry for the white farmers. Especially after what their dads and grandfathers got up to.
    1. Beefeater
      Beefeater 23 June 2016 09: 44
      +1
      Quote: Stauffenberg
      Unfortunately, the storm is reaped by those who did not sow it. Europe pumped out resources from Africa, pitted locals and now all this is reflected in the skins of white settlers, although they are already essentially local. Insanely sorry for the white farmers. Especially after what their dads and grandfathers got up to.

      But Europe built a lot of things. Roads, schools, farms, ports, state system, banks, post office, hospitals ...
      Kipling wrote about this "The White Man's Burden"
      1. White Guard
        White Guard 23 June 2016 13: 02
        0
        Quote: Beefeater
        But Europe built a lot of things. Roads, schools, farms, ports state system, banks, post office, hospitals

        Yeah of course.
        and many blacks could buy a car to drive along these roads?
        Or could you go to a school built for whites? Or to the hospital?
        Well, about banks in general it’s ridiculous, one might think that the Negroes had so much money with white people that they went to banks in large numbers to take a mortgage.
        1. Beefeater
          Beefeater 23 June 2016 14: 56
          +1
          Quote: White Guard
          Quote: Beefeater
          But Europe built a lot of things. Roads, schools, farms, ports state system, banks, post office, hospitals

          Yeah of course.
          and many blacks could buy a car to drive along these roads?
          Or could you go to a school built for whites? Or to the hospital?
          Well, about banks in general it’s ridiculous, one might think that the Negroes had so much money with white people that they went to banks in large numbers to take a mortgage.

          Yes, not all. But someone could go to school and hospital. Someone even reached the heights of becoming a doctor, teacher, newspaper. Before the advent of white, the ultimate dream of such an individual was to become the elephant-protector of the rear at the court of the local native sultan. But this is unlikely. I had to work as a simple donkey driver.
          1. White Guard
            White Guard 23 June 2016 15: 31
            0
            Quote: Beefeater
            But someone could go to school and to the hospital.

            A privileged minority, often an ethnic minority, or representatives of an indigenous aristocracy.
            And those who were guaranteed to have fewer whites, and even the bulk of the population did not even have that.
            Although you provide whites with at least a sufficient minimum population, in the form of at least public baths or the opportunity to learn from your mind, not your origin, you see there was no riot.
            BUT, then White would have to compete with Blacks on equal terms, but they were simply afraid of this.
          2. Pissarro
            Pissarro 23 June 2016 20: 04
            +1
            the limit of dreams was the service in the army or police in ordinary or sergeant posts.
        2. Mikhail Matyugin
          Mikhail Matyugin 23 June 2016 20: 29
          0
          Quote: White Guard
          and many blacks could buy a car to drive along these roads?
          Or could you go to a school built for whites? Or to the hospital?
          Well, about banks in general it’s ridiculous, one might think that the Negroes had so much money with white people that they went to banks in large numbers to take a mortgage.

          You really, really don't know the life of blacks in Africa. About tribal and caste differences, I generally keep quiet.
          1. White Guard
            White Guard 23 June 2016 23: 56
            -1
            Quote: Mikhail Matyugin
            About tribal and caste differences, I generally keep quiet.

            I know. I just think, and I have every right to think so, that the problem is not in the "intellectual abilities" of blacks, but a combination of many reasons.
            1. Mikhail Matyugin
              Mikhail Matyugin 24 June 2016 15: 52
              0
              Quote: White Guard
              I know. I just think, and I have every right to think so, that the problem is not in the "intellectual abilities" of blacks, but a combination of many reasons.

              Many reasons - I don’t know. For example, take India - no one basically says that the majority of Indians are lazy or stupid. But the representatives of the black race who live there - the same Vedda peoples for example or the Andaman - are the most undeveloped savages. That’s how to explain it, huh?
      2. Pissarro
        Pissarro 23 June 2016 20: 02
        +1
        by the way, the infrastructure described in "White Man's Burden" is intended solely for the export of resources to the metropolis.
        The construction of schools and hospitals in the colonies is rather a rare exotic. The school was built only if there was a need for an educated local worker.

        But with all this, the black man in the colony lived a hundred times fuller and safer than in an independent black state. And one of the reasons for the decolonization of dozens of African countries in 1960 was the reluctance to maintain a colonial state apparatus, army and police where you can get without it resources. Actually, in addition to the Portuguese colonies, the rest of Africa just gave independence
  13. excomandante
    excomandante 23 June 2016 08: 22
    +7
    Y-yes. Reality is more interesting than any fiction. What this Mugabe did when he was still a simple unpretentious terrorist is a long and terrible story. In the USSR, for some reason, a hysterical, if not irrational, love for the "oppressed" negroes was cultivated. The USSR is gone - a cult of political correctness and tolerance has begun, again preaching an even more hysterical love for blacks, whom evil whites discriminate against and violate their rights in every possible way. This is some kind of pathology. Yes, the most ordinary savages who still grow and grow to at least the average level of human development. Their independence clearly demonstrated what happens when power is in the hands of savages, in large part - pagans and cannibals. Having mastered the Kalashnikov assault rifle, the Negroes quite successfully organize their DAISH - all sorts of side harams and continue to enthusiastically burn, torture, cut and eat each other. And if a white or a white comes across, it is a feast of the soul for the savages. here they will torture before death for a long time and with a twinkle. In South Africa, a popular crime is to put a tire on a white man, or better off a white one, and set it on fire. Summary - you can't look at Africans through rose-colored glasses. White people in Africa have already had a huge hit. And rightly so - it was not possible to give the natives medicine, education, writing. As the practice of almost all empires shows, savages trained to read and write very quickly become amazed at their own coolness and grab their weapons. PS interesting link http://procol-harum.livejournal.com/475477.html
    1. White Guard
      White Guard 23 June 2016 13: 04
      0
      Quote: excomandante
      whom the evil whites discriminate against and in every way violate their rights.

      Wow. That is, there was no slavery, no segregation, no apartheid ?!
      Quote: excomandante
      Summary - You cannot look at Africans through pink glasses. To white people in Africa, this has already come back to haunt.

      If you personally knew these whites, or at least from the words of your friends, you would know that if they looked at the blacks through glasses, then only if through brown, with a pattern and antennae.
  14. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 23 June 2016 08: 56
    +2
    Destroying the country's economy in order to maintain power is the pinnacle of cretinism.
  15. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 June 2016 09: 16
    +1
    Quote: Pitot
    Never loved racism and niggaz .... especially the latter

    Somehow you do not combine. Have you ever read what racism is? For example, in the United States until the end of the 60s terry racism against blacks flourished, they really were not considered for people. But how can one not like racism and at the same time blacks or someone else?
    1. Tsoy
      Tsoy 23 June 2016 09: 24
      +3
      I suspect the man was joking, this is a bearded aphorism. Sincerely.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 23 June 2016 12: 03
        0
        man joked, this is a bearded aphorism

        Thank you for enlightening. But with such a statement or quoting someone, Pitot had to refer either to the author or to the source. By the way, which is recommended by the rules of the site.
        1. Tsoy
          Tsoy 23 June 2016 14: 18
          0
          Yes, it was possible to add a smiley to mark a joke. The source probably will not be found, unfortunately. The author does not even know Google.
  16. sergo1914
    sergo1914 23 June 2016 09: 39
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: papont64
    Once it was already. Land for peasants, factories for workers ..

    And now many Communists who have lost their minds are proposing nationalization. The consequences are of interest to them, they simply say that everyone will be fine. The Sharikov generation.


    Just wondering. Do you think the current management of Gazprom, Russian Railways, Norilsk Nickel is effective? Maybe something worth doing? Or leave it as it is. Is this "good" for you?
  17. Tsoy
    Tsoy 23 June 2016 09: 42
    +1
    African style disposition. That's just what they will do when the Europeans stop sending humanitarian aid? Or will volunteer programs be covered? Africans other than the northern countries of the continent are lazy and almost disabled. You can say that they suffer from racism and projects of crazy eugenics, but for 100, 50 for years there is almost no progress.

    Of course there is guilt and neo-colonialism. For example Congo. The lion's share of all the rare earth metals needed for the production of electronics is mined in this country. Laptops, smartphones, and more are created by the slave labor of teenagers in the mines. But at least someone beats the alarm about this? Yes, all do not care what is happening on the black continent. More for the world, there are North Africa and South Africa. And that's all. In the middle is a black hole with an eternal civil war, a hotbed of disease and safari.
    1. Mikhail Matyugin
      Mikhail Matyugin 23 June 2016 20: 43
      +1
      Quote: Choi
      More or less for the world, there are North Africa and South Africa. And that’s all. In the middle is a black hole with an eternal civil war, a hotbed of disease and safari.

      Unfortunately, the realities of life - especially in recent years - only confirm this.
  18. Beefeater
    Beefeater 23 June 2016 09: 54
    +3
    Kipling. White burden
    Carry this proud burden -
    Sons went
    To serve you subject
    To the peoples of the ends of the earth -
    To hard labor for the sullen
    Restless savages
    Half demons
    Half the people.


    Carry this proud burden -
    Be even and businesslike
    Don't succumb to fears
    And do not count insults;
    Simple clear word
    Repeat for the hundredth time -
    This to your ward
    Generous harvested.

    Carry this proud burden -
    Fight for the peace of others -
    Make the disease retreat
    And Hunger shut your mouth;
    But how are you closer to success
    The better you recognize
    Pagan Negligence,
    Treacherous Lies.
    .

    Carry this proud Burden
    Not like an arrogant king -
    To hard black work
    Like a slave, self-control;
    You don’t see during life
    Ports, highways, bridges -
    So build them, leaving
    Graves of people like you!
    .....

    Well there is still a lot. Those interested can easily find on the net. All in topic.
    1. Mikhail Matyugin
      Mikhail Matyugin 23 June 2016 20: 27
      +1
      Quote: Beefeater
      Carry this proud burden -
      Be even and businesslike
      Don't succumb to fears
      And do not count insults;

      Comrade Kipling is nowhere in honor, and in some places even banned as a "racist". Although no one said about it better than him.
  19. Super Black
    Super Black 23 June 2016 10: 21
    0
    They are blacks, without a white gentleman they won’t work with a stick. By themselves, they can only wallow in the mud in the mud
  20. Enky
    Enky 23 June 2016 10: 24
    0
    Quote: Teberii
    Take and share.

    Somewhere we already heard it ... N from the Bolsheviks is a quote?
    1. excomandante
      excomandante 23 June 2016 12: 00
      0
      This is a quote from the ideology of the privatizers - the crooks took away the national economy of the USSR and divided among themselves;)
    2. andj61
      andj61 23 June 2016 13: 35
      +2
      Quote: Enky
      Quote: Teberii
      Take and share.

      Somewhere we already heard it ... N from the Bolsheviks is a quote?

      This is from Sharikov!
    3. Pissarro
      Pissarro 23 June 2016 20: 07
      +1
      the Bolsheviks could only take away the parasites. It was not planned to divide, not to produce new petty-bourgeois parasites laughing
  21. black
    black 23 June 2016 10: 41
    +5
    I want to tell you a story told by a comrade in arms. True or not true - you judge. In those days when we (the USSR) were friends with Ethiopia, we sent a young aircraft technician to Africa. The head of the Ethiopian airdrome was an African who was educated in the Union and therefore speaks Russian. One fine day, the head of the airfield, leads to my friend, at the workplace, a young black man and hands him a stick.
    - "Here's your assistant, teach him everything you need."
    - "And why a stick?"
    - "How are you going to teach him?"
  22. rumatam
    rumatam 23 June 2016 10: 48
    -3
    monkeys they are .............. wassat
    1. Professor
      Professor 23 June 2016 10: 54
      +3
      Quote: rumatam
      monkeys they are .............. wassat


      Quote: Super Black
      They are blacks, without a white gentleman they won’t work with a stick. By themselves, they can only wallow in the mud in the mud

      This is pure racism. negative Does your skin color affect mental ability? Nonsense. Raise a Negro from infancy in an Ashkenazi Jewish family and he will learn to be a doctor and yours will come to him to be treated. wink We have quite a few Ethiopian nurses. Not bad nurses.
      By the way, I met blacks at the Technion, though very few. So they studied no worse than their white fellow students.

      The climate spoils blacks in Africa. Nobody will stress if you can live "on the beach" forever.
      1. Beefeater
        Beefeater 23 June 2016 11: 35
        +2
        Quote: Professor
        Quote: rumatam
        monkeys they are .............. wassat


        Quote: Super Black
        They are blacks, without a white gentleman they won’t work with a stick. By themselves, they can only wallow in the mud in the mud

        This is pure racism. negative Does your skin color affect mental ability? Nonsense. Raise a Negro from infancy in an Ashkenazi Jewish family and he will learn to be a doctor and yours will come to him to be treated.

        The climate spoils blacks in Africa. Nobody will stress if you can live "on the beach" forever.

        That is, the only way to grow a good specialist and a modern thinking person from a black-skinned person is to transfer the child to education to representatives of another race, tearing him off from his roots. This is the same thing. The same "racism" because it speaks of the fundamental impossibility of an ethnos for self-development. No matter how you throw it.
        An example of such education is Pushkin’s grandfather Hannibal, who rose to the rank of general. He was brought up in Paris, then was under Peter.
        If I lived in Africa, I would end up with the usual navel.
        1. Professor
          Professor 23 June 2016 11: 39
          +2
          Quote: Beefeater
          That is, the only way to grow a good specialist and a modern thinking person out of a black man is to transfer the child to the representatives of another race for education, tearing him from his roots.

          Not a race, but a culture. Blacks have as many brains as whites.

          Quote: Beefeater
          The same "racism" for it speaks of the fundamental impossibility of an ethnos for self-development. No matter how you throw it.

          The Amzon Indians will not build plants. They already live well in the jungle.

          Quote: Beefeater
          If I lived in Africa, I would end up with the usual navel.

          Like that. But because of the color of his skin.
          1. Beefeater
            Beefeater 23 June 2016 12: 02
            +1
            But, Professor, where can we get this very different culture in Africa?
            And secondly, you therefore agree that it is impossible to educate a human creator in modern African society. Well, why. They lived for thousands of years - they did not know the troubles.
            1. Professor
              Professor 23 June 2016 12: 46
              +3
              Quote: Beefeater
              But, Professor, where can we get this very different culture in Africa?

              Forget it. In Africa, you can put an end to.
              1. White Guard
                White Guard 23 June 2016 15: 02
                -1
                Quote: Professor
                In Africa, you can put an end to.

                It's unlikely.
                In about 100 years, Africa will be the same as what Southeast Asia is today.
          2. excomandante
            excomandante 23 June 2016 12: 07
            +1
            Blacks have less brains by about 10-20 percent, fewer convolutions, less frontal lobes of the brain. Of course, there are exceptions. After the Second World War, because of the crimes of Nazism, racial studies became a semi-forbidden science, and before the war it was safe to write about this in all countries of the world, including the USSR and the USA. Now racial science, as an important branch of anthropology, has been preserved only in Russia and in China (from lectures by anthropogenesis.ru). Races are physically different, but talking about it is forbidden for reasons of tolerance. PS No racism, pure anthropology, no one calls for any restrictions on blacks in their rights.
            1. excomandante
              excomandante 2 July 2016 00: 00
              0
              To go nuts! Already two characters because of the irrational irresponsible love for charming blacks put cons)))) Anthropology, gentlemen, this is science. And your tolerance is a short-lived perversion.
        2. excomandante
          excomandante 23 June 2016 12: 03
          0
          Wasn't Hannibal an Ethiopian? I mean, Ethiopians are dark-skinned Caucasians.
        3. White Guard
          White Guard 23 June 2016 13: 09
          +1
          Quote: Beefeater
          it is to transfer the child to the representatives of another race, tearing it from its roots

          No. Not a different race, but a different culture.
          Because this is not a matter of "skin color", but of a different culture caused by different levels of development of society, but this level of development depends not only on internal, but also on external reasons.
      2. andj61
        andj61 23 June 2016 12: 45
        +3
        Quote: Professor
        then pure racism. Does your skin color affect mental ability? Nonsense. Raise a Negro from infancy in an Ashkenazi Jewish family and he will learn to be a doctor and yours will come to him to be treated. We have quite a few Ethiopian nurses. Not bad nurses.
        By the way, I met blacks at the Technion, though very few. So they studied no worse than their white fellow students.

        Perhaps you are right ... Only Ethiopian falshes are still not Zulus and Bantu, obviously there are differences. Yes, and Amhara is also brought up by a thousand-year-old civilization. And the Zulus, Bantu, etc. until now, in fact, they have only got out of the primitive communal system, and cultures can be instilled in them only according to your prescription - to raise a child in a family with a different culture.
        And on the other - even getting a higher education will not work if you grew up in a tribe of cannibals, and there are plenty of them in Africa now.
        The most telling example is the history of the state of Liberia, created by repatriated Negroes from North America in patterns and with US support. In the end, this state slid to collapse, and all due to the fact that local people do not want to join other values. And especially - they do not want to work. This same cannot be said for Asians, especially from Southeast Asia.
      3. White Guard
        White Guard 23 June 2016 13: 06
        -1
        Quote: Professor
        The climate spoils blacks in Africa.

        And you will go to Africa, especially to central.
        Then tell me what wonderful and comfortable beaches there are.
        1. Professor
          Professor 23 June 2016 13: 12
          +5
          Quote: White Guard
          And you will go to Africa, especially to central.
          Then tell me what wonderful and comfortable beaches there are.

          I went. In black Africa, you can survive almost in a loincloth. In Europe, this trick will not work. It is necessary to take care of housing, housing warming, clothing, winter supplies and so on.
          1. andj61
            andj61 23 June 2016 13: 53
            +1
            Quote: Professor
            I went. In black Africa, you can survive almost in a loincloth. In Europe, this trick will not work. It is necessary to take care of housing, housing warming, clothing, winter supplies and so on.

            Well, yes, but what about snakes, insects, dangerous wild animals, a bunch of exotic diseases and parasites, a tsetse fly in the end? wink
            You can’t work there, and it’s hot - too lazy to do it - so they don’t go against their nature. bully
            And the Lord bequeathed to us (not to us directly, of course, but to Adam when he was expelled from Eden) - "In the sweat of your brow you will earn your daily bread." So we are mining ... request
            And in Africa, and so on, practically Eden - that’s what they don’t want to work! bully Yes, and not accustomed ...
            1. Professor
              Professor 23 June 2016 13: 58
              +1
              Quote: andj61
              Well, yes, but what about snakes, insects, dangerous wild animals, a bunch of exotic diseases and parasites, a tsetse fly in the end?

              So they are in Africa and they do not chew for long. There, under the elderly, under 40. wink

              Quote: Super Black
              And in America, too, they spoil the climate? For so many years they have been accustomed to culture, but they nevertheless continue to live in the ghetto for benefits like animals in a zoo. And whites, as they lived in decent neighborhoods in Holland, also continued to live in decent neighborhoods in Africa. What is the reason? In my opinion, genetics.

              You do not generalize. Blacks in the USA are different. There are billionaires like Oprah and the black president ...
              1. andj61
                andj61 23 June 2016 17: 02
                +1
                Quote: Professor
                So they are in Africa and they do not chew for long. There, under the elderly, under 40.

                So, after the default in 1998, Chernomyrdin once said: "We will live badly, but not for long ..." wink
              2. Super Black
                Super Black 23 June 2016 17: 08
                +2
                And I do not generalize. There are undoubtedly smart, talented and hardworking niggas. As there are whites worse than monkeys, but statistics, statistics ...
          2. White Guard
            White Guard 23 June 2016 15: 05
            0
            Quote: Professor
            In black Africa, you can survive almost in a loincloth. In Europe, this trick will not work.

            Not that it’s going, but even going, or do you think there are few homeless people in Canada? Or is it warm there too, in your opinion?
      4. Super Black
        Super Black 23 June 2016 13: 41
        +2
        And in America, too, they spoil the climate? For so many years they have been accustomed to culture, but they nevertheless continue to live in the ghetto for benefits like animals in a zoo. And whites, as they lived in decent neighborhoods in Holland, also continued to live in decent neighborhoods in Africa. What is the reason? In my opinion, genetics.
      5. Mikhail Matyugin
        Mikhail Matyugin 23 June 2016 20: 35
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        By the way, I met blacks at the Technion, though very few. So they studied no worse than their white fellow students.

        It was probably not quite blacks, but the remnants of the lost tribes with Jewish nevertheless ancestors, eh?

        Quote: Professor
        Raise a Negro from infancy in an Ashkenazi Jewish family and he will learn to be a doctor and yours will come to him to be treated
        And what if the school of Maghreb Jews? laughing

        Quote: Professor
        Does your skin color affect mental ability? Nonsense. Raise a Negro from Infancy
        It’s strange here somehow - my friends in the USA for some reason try not to go to the Negro doctors who are there Why not? request (and you won’t believe, there are even Latin doctors there, but even fewer than Negro doctors).
        1. White Guard
          White Guard 23 June 2016 23: 59
          -1
          Quote: Mikhail Matyugin
          Why ?

          Really.
          Maybe blacks initially do not have so much money to study at a good university?
          Or maybe your friends just suffer from prejudice?
      6. Kaiten
        Kaiten 27 June 2016 20: 52
        0
        Quote: Professor
        Raise a Negro from infancy in an Ashkenazi Jewish family and he will learn to be a doctor and yours will come to him to be treated. We have quite a few Ethiopian nurses. Not bad nurses.

        100%
  23. guzik007
    guzik007 23 June 2016 11: 30
    -2
    Yes, unfortunately in Russia there are a lot of racists who do not hesitate to express their opinions openly, and then they are sincerely surprised - and why does the whole world dislike us, such good, honest, peace-peace and all that until hysterical cries about "historical mission of Russia "
    Yes, in the same America, you try to put such crap on the Internet, the term is provided.
    For information of home-grown racists in Africa, powerful states once flourished with their own culture, metallurgy, laws, etc. And then white civilizers came and for hundreds of years massively rooted the psychology of slavery in the minds of the population. A slave, he is a slave to Africa. And his psychology is slave-to take away and share. Doesn’t resemble anything, smart guys?
    1. Beefeater
      Beefeater 23 June 2016 11: 51
      +6
      Quote: guzik007
      Yes, unfortunately in Russia there are a lot of racists who do not hesitate to express their opinions openly, and then they are sincerely surprised - and why does the whole world dislike us, such good, honest, peace-peace and all that until hysterical cries about "historical mission of Russia "
      Yes, in the same America, you try to put such crap on the Internet, the term is provided.

      And why should we be equal to America? America, by its behavior towards our people, has earned a mild censure, and to be honest, the hatred of the overwhelming majority of the population. First, deceiving our expectations in the 90s, the second time now, killing ours in Odessa and the Donbass. And what are the American intrigues in the field of physical education and sports. America needs to try very hard to regain at least a fraction of its former good attitude towards it.
      I do not want someone in my country to impose a model of behavior on me and dictate what is good and what is bad, imposed gay pride parades and promoted freedom of heroin use. And I don't need someone in the world to love us Russians. We will be loved only in the "paws up" position. Only then will we ourselves gradually become blacks.
      1. White Guard
        White Guard 23 June 2016 13: 14
        -1
        Quote: Beefeater
        And why should we be equal to America?

        Yes, you do not equal, you do not build your life on the principle of "protest for the sake of protest".
        Think about yourself more, then many "Western principles" will turn out to be not so terrible.
        1. Beefeater
          Beefeater 23 June 2016 15: 12
          +2
          Quote: White Guard
          Quote: Beefeater
          And why should we be equal to America?

          Yes, you do not equal, you do not build your life on the principle of "protest for the sake of protest".
          Think about yourself more, then many "Western principles" will turn out to be not so terrible.

          Unfortunately, little depends on us. Western principles on our soil do not take root very much. Russia as a state can exist only as a force opposing itself to the Western world. If we go towards the West, it ends with the latter's attempts to subjugate and split our country. Then Russia gathers strength and hits the West on the hill.
          A kind of peculiar swing.
          1. White Guard
            White Guard 23 June 2016 15: 37
            0
            Quote: Beefeater
            .Russia as a state can exist only as a force opposing itself to the Western world.

            Russia, initially, before the Bolshevik occupation, was flesh from flesh by a European country, albeit with a certain share of Eastern influence.
            And leave tales about the "Western world" for the Bolsheviks, because European countries fought each other more often than we did with them.
    2. excomandante
      excomandante 23 June 2016 12: 08
      +4
      Black Africa flourished, which is already there))) The ruins of a stone pen for slaves built by the Arabs in the Middle Ages were proclaimed the ruins of the Super-Great Ancient Black Civilization, clowns))))
  24. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 23 June 2016 12: 00
    +1
    The British were noted in the Boer genocide. In Africa, there could be a country with a white population.
    1. Kenneth
      Kenneth 23 June 2016 12: 41
      +2
      And the Boers genocide blacks so that Hitler would envy
      A country with a white population was. South Africa was called
    2. andj61
      andj61 23 June 2016 12: 50
      +5
      Quote: KG_patriot_last
      The British were noted in the Boer genocide. In Africa, there could be a country with a white population.

      And such a country was - South Africa. In order to prevent black power, she proclaimed a policy of apartheid - separate development, for which she was sanctioned by the entire "civilized" world and curses from the socialist. countries. The blacks came to power - and now the Europeans need to be fenced in with barbed wire, ditches and energized wire in order to survive. And many Europeans fled from there. And the Afrikaner Boers, for the most part, remained, and somehow survive.
    3. Mikhail Matyugin
      Mikhail Matyugin 23 June 2016 20: 47
      +2
      Quote: KG_patriot_last
      The British were noted in the Boer genocide. In Africa, there could be a country with a white population.

      Well, yes, the British showed themselves in the Boer Anglo so that the world started. And by the way, it was they who advocated most of all for providing equal rights to all colored citizens.

      But on the second - in vain you are so pessimistic, such a country is still there - Namibia. There are few differences with Europe, well, maybe blacks walk along the roadsides of the autobahns.
  25. Arkan
    Arkan 23 June 2016 12: 25
    +3
    A vivid example is when a savage is given ownership of something that he cannot manage due to his development. The colonialists are not angels, but in order to take theirs from them, we must at least learn from them the culture of agricultural production.
    1. White Guard
      White Guard 23 June 2016 15: 07
      0
      Quote: Arkan
      at least we need to learn from them the culture of agricultural production.

      So the fact of the matter is that no one has taught them.
      Did you serve in the army? There are officers in the army and there are sergeants; here, the Negroes did not even consider whites to teach sergeants as necessary, they themselves are to blame.
      1. Arkan
        Arkan 23 June 2016 17: 31
        +1
        Mugabe, in particular, had 20 years of independence in order to grow his specialists in agriculture, thereby preparing for the removal of agricultural land from the colonialists. This was not done, as the simplest, cheapest and bloodiest method has always been chosen. The lands were simply taken away, given out and whatever happens. The result was predictable, in order to climb onto another palm tree, on which you can live comfortably and feed, you must first grow it. Where did you see the colonialists teaching literacy to their slaves? This is not their task. It was not worth killing the farmers, expelling them, yes, but not killing them.
      2. Pissarro
        Pissarro 23 June 2016 20: 13
        0
        that is, when blacks are driving you out of your farm, are you also obliged to teach them how to manage this all?
        1. White Guard
          White Guard 24 June 2016 00: 01
          -1
          Quote: Pissarro
          that is, when blacks are driving you out of your farm, are you also obliged to teach them how to manage this all?

          No. You initially had to train them to manage the farm so that they build their own side by side, and not expel you from their own.
          1. Pissarro
            Pissarro 24 June 2016 00: 26
            +1
            in a civilized society, when trying to kick you out of your property, they call the police and punish the criminals by law, and do not oblige you to train your neighbors in agriculture, for this purpose there is a state university with a free program
            1. White Guard
              White Guard 24 June 2016 00: 47
              -1
              Quote: Pissarro
              To teach this, there is a state university with a free program

              So I’m saying that there were no similar universities and programs in South Africa. What is not clear then?
              1. Pissarro
                Pissarro 24 June 2016 00: 57
                0
                Witwater University, all the years of apartheid was opposed to such a policy and accepted blacks without any problems, a lot of future ANC leaders came out of it.
                Here is a forge of personnel, do you want to study or study
      3. Anglorussian
        Anglorussian 24 June 2016 00: 15
        -1
        So the fact of the matter is that no one has taught them.
        Jean Bedel Bokassa was the captain of the French colonial army with a good education. The result?
        1. White Guard
          White Guard 24 June 2016 00: 48
          -2
          Quote: Anglorussian
          Jean Bedel Bokassa was the captain of the French colonial army with a good education. The result?

          He was a mercenary from the French legion, and had no education, let alone "brilliant".
          1. Anglorussian
            Anglorussian 24 June 2016 01: 01
            0
            had no education, let alone "brilliant"
            He studied at missionary schools, underwent a training program for officers. At that time, in those places, it’s even nothing (By African standards, an academician). And go Amin? And Mobutu Sese Seko?
  26. Kenneth
    Kenneth 23 June 2016 12: 39
    +2
    You can be a great employee wildly hardworking and so on. But in order to run such an economy it is necessary to have agronomic knowledge, to have equipment, the base for its repair, to be able to take loans and be able to take them. Where did the Negro come from, who yesterday waved their hoes or even steered a tractor. Just taking away the land and dividing it in the modern world does not provide production.
  27. Super Black
    Super Black 23 June 2016 13: 44
    0
    So I recall the moment from Django released about the skull of old Ben
  28. Kenneth
    Kenneth 23 June 2016 13: 52
    0
    And generally tie with racism. No blacks to you
    Call them African-African
  29. archi.sailor
    archi.sailor 23 June 2016 15: 18
    +4
    Quote: Kenneth
    And generally tie with racism. No blacks to you
    Call them African-African

    in the explanatory dictionary of the Russian language, Dahl does not have the word African American, there is a Negro. A Negro will remain
    1. Arkan
      Arkan 23 June 2016 22: 06
      -1
      Araps. Arap was the ancestor of A.S. Pushkin and was not shy about it.
  30. Shelest2000
    Shelest2000 23 June 2016 16: 38
    +3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Damm
    I am not saying that the Negroes are right in their actions, but they have been kept worse than slavery for 300 years.

    South Africa under apartheid was one of the most prosperous countries. Although thanks to the TV of the USSR, many people think that there was total hell.
    Everything, no more apartheid-freedom fellow One problem, along with freedom, came the little northern animal scribe laughing
    Lived like people, got a good salary, no revolution needed. Get the whites.

    And what is apartheid - separate living. In one country blacks lived separately, whites separately. Everyone did their own thing and the country flourished. Abolished apartheid, and the country was trash and Israel. By the way, in the USSR there was also some kind of apartheid, which was supported by registration and a "living limit" in cities. In our cities, blacks were seen only in the markets behind the counters, and even then rarely. Well, they canceled the "registration" - we now observe the "free" reality with nostalgia. Oh yes, and that country is no longer there, alas ...
    T.ch. apartheid is normal. Just do not confuse it with Nazism.
    1. White Guard
      White Guard 23 June 2016 17: 06
      -2
      Quote: Shelest2000
      Everyone went about their business and the country flourished.

      It flourished so that people who arrived in the city in the 90s did not know what an elevator and a toilet bowl were!
      Quote: Shelest2000
      Well, they canceled the "registration" - we now observe the "free" reality with nostalgia.

      There is not a drop of nostalgia, I am a free person and I can go wherever I want and whenever I want and walk by with your registration and "limit".
      1. Anglorussian
        Anglorussian 24 June 2016 00: 18
        +3
        Im free person
        In your case, this is a clear mistake. You in the ghetto to the brothers, look at how many you have enough.
        1. White Guard
          White Guard 24 June 2016 00: 49
          -3
          Quote: Anglorussian
          how many are enough for you.

          "Skolko" is enough for you to write specially with errors?
          1. Anglorussian
            Anglorussian 24 June 2016 01: 09
            +2
            "Skolko" is enough for you to specially write with errors
            Unfortunately, the transliteration program (I’m crawling with English buttons) was clearly written by your colored brothers, there are simply no letters. But this excites you and the zealous local pseudo-patriots. Normal interlocutors understand. And for the rest of me ...
  31. Tired
    Tired 23 June 2016 19: 30
    +1
    Europeans needed slaves, and they brought up slaves. And when they moved to a new financial level (transnational) they allowed slaves to play gentlemen. Who would have thought that slaves would remain slaves !? This is such a surprise! Probably the whole thing is in the genes, in the racial inferiority of Negroids. But seriously, a slave cannot be free. Somebody didn’t want to bring civilization to savages before, but now there is no possibility. Nevertheless, the experience of the USSR is positive here - people from Central Asia and the North Caucasus who lived in the culture of the Middle Ages were raised to a civilized level and in a very short time.
  32. Ros 56
    Ros 56 24 June 2016 09: 41
    0
    The world will remember the times of the "Orange Republic" exactly the opposite. And who needed it?
  33. Backfire
    Backfire 24 June 2016 14: 56
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Damm
    I am not saying that the Negroes are right in their actions, but they have been kept worse than slavery for 300 years.

    South Africa under apartheid was one of the most prosperous countries. Although thanks to the TV of the USSR, many people think that there was total hell.
    Everything, no more apartheid-freedom fellow One problem, along with freedom, came the little northern animal scribe laughing
    Lived like people, got a good salary, no revolution needed. Get the whites.
  34. pigkiller
    pigkiller 24 June 2016 15: 29
    -2
    Here's what's interesting: many of the participants in the discussion were once outraged by the words of Yatsenyuk
    about subhuman people living in Donbass and Lugansk (Donbabva, Lugandon
    by definition of Ukrainian neo-Nazis). However, many consider it normal to use
    epithets "black macaques, etc." How is white racism / Nazism different from black, and our racists from Ukrainian ones?
  35. DimYang
    DimYang 24 June 2016 16: 14
    +2
    Quote: pigkiller
    How is essentially white racism / Nazism different from black, and our racists from Ukrainian?


    This is not nationalism or racism. This is anthropology science called. There’s no getting away from her. Read Russian Soviet Academician B.F. Porshneva. He has already proved everything for a long time.
  36. horror
    horror 24 June 2016 20: 46
    +3
    In the countries of the former USSR, racism against Russians began in 1989 and is still ongoing, of course it manifests itself everywhere in different ways, but until the mid-nineties many were expelled from their homes, beaten, raped, killed! I’m generally silent about Chechnya! And something like that is not particularly pay attention to it! And rehabilitation exists only in words!